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Ethiopia: Low IQs are Africa's curse, says lecturer
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Ethiopia: Low IQs are Africa's curse, says lecturer
Link: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1939891,00.html
Satoshi Kanazawa Paper Published in the British Journal of Health Psychology
Low IQs are Africa's curse, says lecturer
Researcher accused of promoting racist stereotype wins backing from LSE
Denis Campbell
Sunday November 5, 2006
The Observer
Photo Credit The London School of Economics (LSE)
The London School of Economics is embroiled in a row over academic freedom after one of its lecturers published a paper alleging that African states were poor and suffered chronic ill-health because their populations were less intelligent than people in richer countries.
Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist, is now accused of reviving the politics of eugenics by publishing the research which concludes that low IQ levels, rather than poverty and disease, are the reason why life expectancy is low and infant mortality high. His paper, published in the British Journal of Health Psychology, compares IQ scores with indicators of ill health in 126 countries and claims that nations at the top of the ill health league also have the lowest intelligence ratings.
In the paper he cites Ethiopia's national IQ of 63
Paul Collins, a spokesman for War On Want, the international development charity, said the research 'runs the risk of resurrecting the racist stereotype that Africans are responsible for their own plight, and may reinforce prejudices that Africans are less intelligent'.
Collins added: 'The notion that people in poor countries have inferior intelligence has been disproved by much research in the past. This is another example, which other academics will shoot down.'
Philippa Atkinson, who chairs the LSE student union's 85-strong Africa Forum and teaches in the school's Department of Government, said the paper 'reflects the now discredited theories of eugenics, which should have been left behind'.
'Eugenics was a very influential discourse for centuries,' she said. 'It's the discourse that colonialism and racism in America until the Sixties were based on, and was part of the basis of apartheid too. Nobody could prove that there are racial or national differences in IQ. It's very, very controversial to say
that national IQ levels are low in Africa, and completely unproven. It's a surprise that the odd person would try to bring it back,' she said.
However, she said the research contained some interesting ideas and merited serious consideration, and stressed that academics such as Kanazawa should not be deterred from exploring controversial subjects.
The reaction to Kanazawa's paper will reopen the simmering debate about whether academics are entitled to express opinions that many people may find offensive.
The Observer revealed last March that Frank Ellis, a lecturer in Russian and Slavonic studies at Leeds University, supported the Bell Curve theory, which holds that black people are less intelligent than whites. He also believed that women did not have the same intellectual capacity as men and backed the 'humane' repatriation of ethnic minorities. Initially, the university backed Ellis, despite protests by students and teaching staff, but he took early retirement in July.
Kanazawa declined to comment on either War on Want or Atkinson's allegations about reviving eugenics because, he said, other academics had come up with the national IQ scores that underpinned his analysis of 126 countries. In the paper he cites Ethiopia's national IQ of 63, the world's lowest, and the fact that men and women are only expected to live until their mid-40s as an example of his finding that intelligence is the main determinant of someone's health.
Having examined the effects of economic development and income inequality on health, he was 'surprised' to find that IQ had a much more important impact, he said. 'Poverty, lack of sanitation, clean water, education and healthcare do not increase health and longevity, and nor does economic development.'
The LSE declined to offer any opinion on Kanazawa's conclusions but defended his right to publish controversial research. A spokeswoman said: 'This is academic research by Dr Kanazawa based on empirical data and published in a peer-reviewed journal. People may agree or disagree with his findings and are at liberty to voice their opinions to him. The school does not take any institutional view on the work of individual academics.'
Kate Raworth, a senior researcher with Oxfam, said it was 'ridiculous' for Kanazawa to blame ill health on low IQ and 'very irresponsible' to reach such conclusions using questionable and 'fragile' international data on national IQ levels.
Rumit Shah, chairman of the LSE student union's 52-member Kenyan Society, said lack of education was probably one reason why many Kenyans die young. Aids, tuberculosis and malaria were key factors too.
Kanazawa's article was a 'misrepresentation' of the true causes of ill health in Kenya, added Shah. 'It portrays a bad picture of Kenya, because not everyone in Kenya has an IQ of 72. If there was more education, Kenyans would be wiser about their health.'
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Contact info for Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa
s.kanazawa@lse.ac.uk
LSE phone number: 020 7955 7297
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Average person in Ethiopia retarded? What?!
Mild mental retardation: IQ 50–55 to 70
Moderate retardation: IQ 35–40 to 50–55;
Severe mental retardation: IQ 20–25 to 35–40
Profound mental retardation: IQ below 20–25
Source: Wikipedia
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The British Journal of Health Psychology
Mind the gap…in intelligence: Re-examining the relationship between inequality and health
Author: Kanazawa, Satoshi1
Source: British Journal of Health Psychology, Volume 11, Number 4, November 2006, pp. 623-642(20)
Publisher: British Psychological Society
Abstract:
Wilkinson contends that economic inequality reduces the health and life expectancy of the whole population but his argument does not make sense within its own evolutionary framework. Recent evolutionary psychological theory suggests that the human brain, adapted to the ancestral environment, has difficulty comprehending and dealing with entities and situations that did not exist in the ancestral environment and that general intelligence evolved as a domain-specific adaptation to solve evolutionarily novel problems. Since most dangers to health in the contemporary society are evolutionarily novel, it follows that more intelligent individuals are better able to recognize and deal with such dangers and live longer. Consistent with the theory, the macro-level analyses show that income inequality and economic development have no effect on life expectancy at birth, infant mortality and age-specific mortality net of average intelligence quotient (IQ) in 126 countries. They also show that an average IQ has a very large and significant effect on population health but not in the evolutionarily familiar sub-Saharan Africa. At the micro level, the General Social Survey data show that, while both income and intelligence have independent positive effects on self-reported health, intelligence has a stronger effect than income. The data collectively suggest that individuals in wealthier and more egalitarian societies live longer and stay healthier, not because they are wealthier or more egalitarian but because they are more intelligent.Document Type: Research article
DOI: 10.1348/135910705X69842
Affiliations: 1: Interdisciplinary Institute of Management, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK Source: British Journal of Health Psychology
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139 comments
Comment from: tutajama [Visitor]
it,s very sad this so-called intellectual comes up with this kind of finding,s. i challege him to compare the IQ of inner-city black kids to that of white kids from sub-urbia,whose access to quality of education is limitless,whether it be in america,england or south africa. i for one have given-up on the educated elite who,the more they are educated the dumber they get and this researcher is a classic example.
11/06/06 @ 03:07
Comment from: Negisho [Visitor]
Well, I think these could True. Although, we hcould have hard a hard time accepting Ethiopians suffering from low IQ and ranked last in the world. However, it speaks of valume the suffereing, hunger, low life expectancy, and intolerance all can be the result of our mass short commimgs in terms of intelligence. Even so called educated Ethiopians can not accept new way of thinking. We can take the CUD and their supporters as an example here. Their intolerance and incistance on status-que is a prime example of defficency de intillegecia.
11/06/06 @ 03:15
Comment from: Inkitu [Visitor]
Am so sorry for the one who said that.Am not blaming him alone , am blaming all those arrogant and their followers who thought like his ill-conceived, stupid and silly minded. I dont considerd and called it a research. This all about what they consider and think about us. I dont have any more words.
Thank u for reading
Thank u for reading
11/06/06 @ 03:44
Comment from: abera demeksa [Visitor]
I hate to admit it,the professor's conclusion may very well be true!
How else can you explain all the ignorance which is displayed by so many Ethiopians on this blog?
How else can you explain Ethiopians lobbying world governments to withhold aid to their country so their fellow Ethiopians may suffer?
How else can you explain the belief these people hold that only someone from their ethnic group has to run the government?
To what else,but low IQ,can you attribute the bottomless depth of hatred spewed by the foul-mouthed idiots who write so much banality and nonsensical diatribe in the name of politics?
How else?
How else can you explain all the ignorance which is displayed by so many Ethiopians on this blog?
How else can you explain Ethiopians lobbying world governments to withhold aid to their country so their fellow Ethiopians may suffer?
How else can you explain the belief these people hold that only someone from their ethnic group has to run the government?
To what else,but low IQ,can you attribute the bottomless depth of hatred spewed by the foul-mouthed idiots who write so much banality and nonsensical diatribe in the name of politics?
How else?
11/06/06 @ 03:53
Comment from: deri [Visitor]
Poor MELES,
It's Scientifically confirmed that your IQ equals MONKEY'S.I wonder howmany for AGAZI & Yirgacheffe??
It's Scientifically confirmed that your IQ equals MONKEY'S.I wonder howmany for AGAZI & Yirgacheffe??
11/06/06 @ 05:04
Comment from: Hagos [Visitor]
Where are the so called Ethiopian learned men at this time. This is a hard hit below the belt by racist driven study by second rate wanna be white guy. lets hear from the 'I know it all Ethiopians' horse mouth thier defence of the nation. They tell us how they know the white mans working system I mean democracy. Now tell this guy how you know about your self and prove that your IQ is not below Miami's winter centigrade. Here is the fire and be tested to come out real gold proven. If not we all should shut up and enjoy primitive knowlage and get maried to double up on the factory I.Q. 
By the way I was listening BBC an interview regarding this point and one of the gust said 80% of I.Q. comes from your parents or ancestors and 20% is your expousure in your childhood. So, by this fact and by the jap finding of 63 I.Q. we are in eternal dumpness could all the education can bring is the 20% change not the inherited 80%. Wow, scarey but am sure this is racial motivated and well designed white man frustration tool. Last time I checked my I.Q. was 15 by the way i did not pay for it and as the saying goes you get what you pay for. I feel pretty cool though no load on my head feels easy.
By the way I was listening BBC an interview regarding this point and one of the gust said 80% of I.Q. comes from your parents or ancestors and 20% is your expousure in your childhood. So, by this fact and by the jap finding of 63 I.Q. we are in eternal dumpness could all the education can bring is the 20% change not the inherited 80%. Wow, scarey but am sure this is racial motivated and well designed white man frustration tool. Last time I checked my I.Q. was 15 by the way i did not pay for it and as the saying goes you get what you pay for. I feel pretty cool though no load on my head feels easy.
11/06/06 @ 06:17
Comment from: houstonmacbro [Visitor]
not less intelligent, but perhaps less educated. this is not their fault, but years of colonial rule followed by decades more of corrupt political and military leaders.
11/06/06 @ 08:14
Comment from: Free [Visitor]
You know what, he might be right! Look where we and the rest of the world are, sooooooo behind. All we know is cheating eachother, accusing one an other, torturing and killing other our own country men and women. Any one that argues against this claim, give me anything we have done beside the USUAL Axum and Lalibela. We have done nothing! And there is no doubt in my mind that the professional beggars, the woyanes, who are spending half of their time formulating cheatings and conspiracies & meddling in other country business, and half of it begging food to feed the poverty stricken citizens of the nation has has a lot to do for this publishing. I am actually suspecting that the samples that the researcher has used to support his findings must have been taken from woyanes smart ass pools such as Siyoum Mesfin(have you read what his press briefing in China, "We African leaders are not dictators", my goodness!), Genet Zewide, Addisu Legess(I am thankful he didnt categorize us with the monkeys), Abadula Gemeda, and similar idiots. I have been saying it all along, the woyanes are tarnishing our name like never before! They must be removed! Untill then, researchers like this one has convincing reason to support their claim and we cant disprove their findings.
11/06/06 @ 08:18
Comment from: Sodo [Visitor]
Our problems are our diversities.With thousands of different cultures and dialects,with ethnocentric scam war lords dividing them,black people never had their IQs properly measured.After saying that,I care less about the other blacks,but I would like to invite this ONION EATING stinking Asian shorty to visit schools like MIT,CAL TECH,HARVARD where Ethiopians are on top of the Asian FIDEL TEMARIS.One day when the TPLF ethnic lords are out of the way,our proper place in eduation will be the best in the world AGAIN.The hell with you Mr. Asian slant eyed scientist.
11/06/06 @ 08:39
Comment from: yigermal [Visitor]
I am assuming this guy, whatever his name is, has been turned down by Ethiopian beauties for dates. I think he came up with this low IQ stuff to get even with the Ethiopian beauties, I guess.
I myself used to administer IQ tests several years ago while I studied psychology in a graduate school. I can tell you that this measurement stuff is a pure garbage. IQ tests do not take into considerations several extraneous variables such as, differences in cultures and socio-economic status of its subjects. His calculated national Ethiopian IQ score of 63 may be true on the IQ measurement scale devised primarily by the Anglo and Mongolian races. Even accepting their IQ measurement instrument, the Ethiopians’ low IQ score may be caused by poverty. This means that poverty caused the lower IQ score and not vise versa.
If the Ethiopians were given the same economic opportunities like others, they would do much better than their counterparts in other parts of the world. I also invite this dummy Satoshi Kanazawa to administer his IQ test to the Ethiopians of the Diaspora and let us know of his results. This will give him an idea of how the Ethiopians will do if they were given the same economic opportunities as their counterparts in other parts of the world.
I also want to ask this guy how much IQ he would assign a nation that has maintained its independence and sovereignty for more than 3000 years?
Satoshi, how come you did not take all these factors into consideration in your IQ measurement, dummy?
One more thing, the Ethiopian national IQ that Kanazawa spoke about, could it perhaps be the average IQ score of Meles Zenawi and his TPLF cadres? If that is the case, Kanazawa will get a thumb up from me.
11/06/06 @ 08:48
Comment from: Wondi [Visitor]
It is so outrageous to here some one who called him self to call a researcher and put forward his so called "findings" as a true result. Laughingly enough, the well known journal accept to publish this dull-witted person's paper.
Does he know how many Ethiopian professionals are here in London and other first world countries? Does he really know Ethiopians are always in top form and at top level on every field they are involved or employed with? Be it in a food industry, be it a waitress or a waiter or be it a doctor, engineer, IT person, lawyer..... It looks as if this narrow minded person has never met any of the Ethiopian proffesionals who are residing here in Uk , USA, Germany or other countries. To mention some, here in London a leading neuro surgon in Nottingham, Leading endocrinologist in Liverpool (If at all he knows what this medical terms know..) paediatric surgeons.... When it comes to the city or as a civil servant, does he know there is an Ethiopian Lady graduate of MBA who is working for the office of Chancellor of the exchequer Mr. Gordon Brown, more over, consultants like me in public health for the better service provision of health and community medicine are too many to count. Professor Lemma of South Bank University as lecturer and Lead researcher is also well known academician. A young lady with a qualification of both MBA and engineering and works for a high flier petroleum company,....I can go and go forever and ever with out going to details. It is sad to hear from some one who thinks is an academician him self. May be he paid for his degree and was given in his native country and got a grant to do for his PHD or what ever if at all he deserves it. His credentials have to be inspected properly.
Fortunately he is also from Black and Ethnic Minority category. Other wise it would have sounded a racial comment. So thanks the almighty God he saved by his origin, other wise things would have taken out of proportion.
To end my comment, there are plenty of Ethiopians who are here longing to study in the higher education to help their host country (Great Britain) and do some good work in return for the educational back ground they got... Not like him to use it as a source of hatred and discrimination.
I wish Him the forgiving lord to give him his sanity and come back to where he belongs.
To give brief description about my self I am a medical Doctor with post graduation in Public health from UCL graduated in Honours and got A in my thesis plus DTM&H from Royal collage of Physicians. If need be there I am willing to take any kind of general exam which determines the IQ of a person at any time and at any place.
I am proud to be one of the Ethiopians in this academic credentials and working to its best cause.
I recommend him to go all over the world and take picture only. He is not good enough for any academic work in my opinion.
Does he know how many Ethiopian professionals are here in London and other first world countries? Does he really know Ethiopians are always in top form and at top level on every field they are involved or employed with? Be it in a food industry, be it a waitress or a waiter or be it a doctor, engineer, IT person, lawyer..... It looks as if this narrow minded person has never met any of the Ethiopian proffesionals who are residing here in Uk , USA, Germany or other countries. To mention some, here in London a leading neuro surgon in Nottingham, Leading endocrinologist in Liverpool (If at all he knows what this medical terms know..) paediatric surgeons.... When it comes to the city or as a civil servant, does he know there is an Ethiopian Lady graduate of MBA who is working for the office of Chancellor of the exchequer Mr. Gordon Brown, more over, consultants like me in public health for the better service provision of health and community medicine are too many to count. Professor Lemma of South Bank University as lecturer and Lead researcher is also well known academician. A young lady with a qualification of both MBA and engineering and works for a high flier petroleum company,....I can go and go forever and ever with out going to details. It is sad to hear from some one who thinks is an academician him self. May be he paid for his degree and was given in his native country and got a grant to do for his PHD or what ever if at all he deserves it. His credentials have to be inspected properly.
Fortunately he is also from Black and Ethnic Minority category. Other wise it would have sounded a racial comment. So thanks the almighty God he saved by his origin, other wise things would have taken out of proportion.
To end my comment, there are plenty of Ethiopians who are here longing to study in the higher education to help their host country (Great Britain) and do some good work in return for the educational back ground they got... Not like him to use it as a source of hatred and discrimination.
I wish Him the forgiving lord to give him his sanity and come back to where he belongs.
To give brief description about my self I am a medical Doctor with post graduation in Public health from UCL graduated in Honours and got A in my thesis plus DTM&H from Royal collage of Physicians. If need be there I am willing to take any kind of general exam which determines the IQ of a person at any time and at any place.
I am proud to be one of the Ethiopians in this academic credentials and working to its best cause.
I recommend him to go all over the world and take picture only. He is not good enough for any academic work in my opinion.
11/06/06 @ 09:00
Comment from: Dr Zelalem Kebede, MD,MA,MBA [Visitor]
It is really amazing to hear some so called academician publishing just to have there name on the paper with out even considering what kind of consequence it will bring to them professionally, ethically or legally. It is unbelievable a person who calls himself academician gets in rolled in race, ethics and racism. I am originally from Ethiopia and a medical doctor. It is an insult for me and my colleagues which are working in medical and other fields especially being told our nation is starving due to our IQ level. Does he know that to be a medical doctor at least you need over 125 IQ level? I can understand him as a psychiatrist individuals like him suffer from a psych-pathology called Delirium and they/him in this case even have not realised it can offend and upset people from different professional back ground that a brain less psychologist believe that low IQ level have something to do with poverty. We did a mapping specifically about Ethiopian community and it happens to be over 67% of the Ethiopians leaving in UK have at least First degree. Where does he have his information about the IQ level of Ethiopians? Or as he is a psychologist maybe he have followed the racist & adventures theory of Freioud & Young that by virtue of being African or Black we can not have high IQ?Does he know what he is talking about or what he just published as an article thinking he will get away with it without any response from our community? It is also sad such kind of individuals are allowed to work and exercise there unfounded knowledge in establishment like LSC.It shows what low IQ level himself have disrespecting ambitous,well educated and respected community like Ethiopians which he is trying to use for his own unscientific paper he is writing or wrote. I for one would be happy to challenge such individuals and I think all African academicians or professionals need to find a way how such arrogant people can be stopped from using Africa or any African nation for there unfounded publications. My recommendation please see mental health professional sooner than later.
11/06/06 @ 09:02
Comment from: Bonso [Visitor]
I think it is much better to think and reflect honestly upon this findings. Then, look at `African leaders` and how they kill their citizens and run away from their countries and use the stolen money in foreign countries. This was true in the past, now and I am afraid that it might continue in future. Therefore, it is time for Africans to wake up and live fully as human beings.
11/06/06 @ 09:26
Comment from: kemiru [Visitor]
It is an absolute disgrace that “Dr” Satoshi Kanazawa is promoting such a disguised hate for a scientific fact. Particularly having his supposed sociological training and research exposure, claming inferiority of intelligence based on skin colour is ridiculous. It is a glaring fact that material deprivation is a fact of life in most Africans’ life and, hence, relatively restricted provision in life including nutrition, education and health services. But Africans just do not ended up where they are today! Anyone who does not chronically suffer from ignorance of sociological factors at play, on top of the deep-rooted destruction of colonialism and slave trade, does not claim genetic superiority of the white race over blacks. If Dr Satoshi Kanazawa’s feeble mind can not comprehend, may be out of hate-driven myopia than a lack of intelligence, I like to do him a favour by pointing out very few important facts so that he can get the benefit of doubt and research in the right place:
1- Where do the west, particularly Europeans, got their initial capital that was invested in health and education amongst other things, which has given them longer tradition of education and health sector knowledge? Is it not the case that European’s went to such an absolute degree of greed that they sold fellow human beings, whereby they completely destroyed century-old human knowledge and social fabric in Africa? This social free fall put Africans in a situation where most social formations have to be started from the scratch, mostly fighting the malicious manipulation and manoeuvres of the west at the same time. The current apparent disparity in wealth, nutrition, educational and health services and know-how is being deliberately promoted as a genetic inferiority! It is a twisted and cheap racist reasoning, impulse so to say. We know our worth!
2- Dr Satoshi Kanazawa, if ever got genuinely interested in African affairs, might have came across news and research findings that Africa is loosing high number of trained manpower/brain drain/. This has bright huge benefit to Europeans and Americans including Canadians. African intellectuals and professionals are working in the west for lack of option at home. This disproves his lopsided claim since reasonable people know and have seen that Africans can and indeed do achieve like everybody else given an equal opportunity. As it is, attending universities and colleges in Europe and America has far more challenge for black people not because they can not cope with the competition, but the unfair treatment and undeserved discrimination. London School of Economics should not be a breeding ground for agents of racist gangs and pseudo-intellectuals. Social science has limitation as a sphere of inquiry about human society and when emotions are allowed to displace reason, Dr Satoshi Kanazawa’s clamed finding is not surprising since it is more of an attempt to give his racist attitudes a scientific cover.
3- I guess Dr Satoshi Kanazawa have been, if ever, few times to Africa. Your arm-chair assertions are so outdated and flawed that you can only expected to be honoured by your like-minded bigots. But I do advise you that you visit Africa and try to learn, how despite material deprivations and social break downs, Africans manage to survive, laugh and have love. Africans’ problems are man-made to a large extent, the proportion of responsibility hugely lying on the shoulder of slave traders, colonialists and neo-colonialists that have been and are looting Africans’ resources(bright and capable professionals included) and peace with and with out disguises. You must be one of those half-backed “scholars” who take everything on a TV for grant following the works of amateurish journalism! I advise you to visit Africa, which is, by the way, far diverse and energetic than you have even started to imagine. Then, your ignorance may heal with the abundant generosity Africans.
1- Where do the west, particularly Europeans, got their initial capital that was invested in health and education amongst other things, which has given them longer tradition of education and health sector knowledge? Is it not the case that European’s went to such an absolute degree of greed that they sold fellow human beings, whereby they completely destroyed century-old human knowledge and social fabric in Africa? This social free fall put Africans in a situation where most social formations have to be started from the scratch, mostly fighting the malicious manipulation and manoeuvres of the west at the same time. The current apparent disparity in wealth, nutrition, educational and health services and know-how is being deliberately promoted as a genetic inferiority! It is a twisted and cheap racist reasoning, impulse so to say. We know our worth!
2- Dr Satoshi Kanazawa, if ever got genuinely interested in African affairs, might have came across news and research findings that Africa is loosing high number of trained manpower/brain drain/. This has bright huge benefit to Europeans and Americans including Canadians. African intellectuals and professionals are working in the west for lack of option at home. This disproves his lopsided claim since reasonable people know and have seen that Africans can and indeed do achieve like everybody else given an equal opportunity. As it is, attending universities and colleges in Europe and America has far more challenge for black people not because they can not cope with the competition, but the unfair treatment and undeserved discrimination. London School of Economics should not be a breeding ground for agents of racist gangs and pseudo-intellectuals. Social science has limitation as a sphere of inquiry about human society and when emotions are allowed to displace reason, Dr Satoshi Kanazawa’s clamed finding is not surprising since it is more of an attempt to give his racist attitudes a scientific cover.
3- I guess Dr Satoshi Kanazawa have been, if ever, few times to Africa. Your arm-chair assertions are so outdated and flawed that you can only expected to be honoured by your like-minded bigots. But I do advise you that you visit Africa and try to learn, how despite material deprivations and social break downs, Africans manage to survive, laugh and have love. Africans’ problems are man-made to a large extent, the proportion of responsibility hugely lying on the shoulder of slave traders, colonialists and neo-colonialists that have been and are looting Africans’ resources(bright and capable professionals included) and peace with and with out disguises. You must be one of those half-backed “scholars” who take everything on a TV for grant following the works of amateurish journalism! I advise you to visit Africa, which is, by the way, far diverse and energetic than you have even started to imagine. Then, your ignorance may heal with the abundant generosity Africans.
11/06/06 @ 09:49
Comment from: araya [Visitor]
This chink has got it wrong. Good leadership is one of the most impotant things you need for a better economy and growth!
11/06/06 @ 09:51
Comment from: Zeab [Visitor]
I am sure knowledge has not been given to persons like Kanazawa. They are like a Child and thier judgement is childish. A child lakes information and knowledge to judge. Do you know how a child judges? Just give him your face to slap you and falsely cry, the child then assumes his is more powerful/ stronger than you. That is how people like Kanazawa judge and make conclusion. He used the data of health and mortality rate to make a conclusion on IQ level of the different poeple of the world.
What about the greed, colonialism and other evil things, which have been contributing to the wealth and health of the rich nations? for Kanazawa this is a measuring instrument of IQ.
It is not good to allow a fool to speak openly and loudly; However Mr. Kanazawa is an instrument!
I have already sent him an email concerning his childish thinking, I hope others will also write to him.
What about the greed, colonialism and other evil things, which have been contributing to the wealth and health of the rich nations? for Kanazawa this is a measuring instrument of IQ.
It is not good to allow a fool to speak openly and loudly; However Mr. Kanazawa is an instrument!
I have already sent him an email concerning his childish thinking, I hope others will also write to him.
11/06/06 @ 09:54
Comment from: Gode [Visitor]
But why are there so many paedophiles, rapists, murderers and evil people in the West than any other part in the world? Why are people in the West changing churches to night clubs at night?
Could it be that IQ level in the West is going down the hill as well, or fear-of-God is non-existent in the West?
At least Africans are very religious people. They have fear-of-God. The research of this monkey looking Chinese won't change anything. He could be one of the above characters himself.
Could it be that IQ level in the West is going down the hill as well, or fear-of-God is non-existent in the West?
At least Africans are very religious people. They have fear-of-God. The research of this monkey looking Chinese won't change anything. He could be one of the above characters himself.
11/06/06 @ 09:57
Comment from: tadesse [Visitor]
Hey
I am so sorry for your redicules paper.First you should know what kind of IQ questions you use.Then you should know peoples behvuore.There may be something to know more.You should think of that before you harrase people.
so sorry you
I am so sorry for your redicules paper.First you should know what kind of IQ questions you use.Then you should know peoples behvuore.There may be something to know more.You should think of that before you harrase people.
so sorry you
11/06/06 @ 10:09
Comment from: kenbid [Visitor]
wey gud! "anbesa siarej ye'zinb mechawecha yihonal" alu abatochachin
Dr. Satoshi, it is your time, you can write and say anything u want.
send email to this sh*t
Contact info for Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa
s.kanazawa@lse.ac.uk
Dr. Satoshi, it is your time, you can write and say anything u want.
send email to this sh*t
Contact info for Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa
s.kanazawa@lse.ac.uk
11/06/06 @ 10:18
Comment from: bex [Visitor]
Rediculous!
It is the system of governance a nation follows that determines the financial prowess of a country. Not their IQ, dear "Professor".
I have been living in the West and, trust me, I know the IQ of many here. True, many in Ethiopia may not be educated. But, it is not our IQ level that is the reason for our poverty.
And, what type of IQ are you referring to? The one that the West uses? Bull. It is created by the West for the West. Ethiopians, I will argue, actually have the highest natural IQ level in the world. With no technology, more than 70 million people, with more than 80 different tribes, are living coherently (as they have for 1000s of years) despite an enormous economic difficulty. That is what I call wisdom; IQ. Your people will probably eat each other alive under similar circumstances.
It is the system of governance a nation follows that determines the financial prowess of a country. Not their IQ, dear "Professor".
I have been living in the West and, trust me, I know the IQ of many here. True, many in Ethiopia may not be educated. But, it is not our IQ level that is the reason for our poverty.
And, what type of IQ are you referring to? The one that the West uses? Bull. It is created by the West for the West. Ethiopians, I will argue, actually have the highest natural IQ level in the world. With no technology, more than 70 million people, with more than 80 different tribes, are living coherently (as they have for 1000s of years) despite an enormous economic difficulty. That is what I call wisdom; IQ. Your people will probably eat each other alive under similar circumstances.
11/06/06 @ 10:29
Comment from: Geltu [Visitor]
Cuba is known to have the best health security and Infrastructure for its people. Therefore, Cubans must have the best intelligence.
Would this conclusion work readers?
Please don't get offended by this presentation. It shows objective unreality as a result of sampling error.
I understand there is a lot to say about bad sanitation and ill health in Ethiopia. I knew people who pay thousands of Birr to construct a grave, but don't have shower in their house. But this doesn't mean that all are the same. I know some people in Ethiopia are resistant to change, but not all. I wish what raw data the guy used to publish such result?
Let us contribute something to educate our people guys. Education the the only way our people can be free from such controversial issues.
Would this conclusion work readers?
Please don't get offended by this presentation. It shows objective unreality as a result of sampling error.
I understand there is a lot to say about bad sanitation and ill health in Ethiopia. I knew people who pay thousands of Birr to construct a grave, but don't have shower in their house. But this doesn't mean that all are the same. I know some people in Ethiopia are resistant to change, but not all. I wish what raw data the guy used to publish such result?
Let us contribute something to educate our people guys. Education the the only way our people can be free from such controversial issues.
11/06/06 @ 10:31
Comment from: Dr Zelalem Kebede, MD,MA,MBA [Visitor]
I think it will not be fair using looks and other issue i.e. ethnical background to criticise the individual who wrote this publication in this case Staoshi Kanazawa. He will use it again to write some unfounded article to upset us all Africans and in particular Ethiopians. We need to be assertive why we think his article is absolutely unscientific, unfounded and if he is doing his PhD on such topic it should not be allowed for reference for research and university students. I am a very proud Ethiopian and it is possible to write words which can up set him easily. We all need to understand such psychologist which I doubt he is especially from LSC like Satoshi does not have knowledge of world history, statistical background about there studies & finding, no what so ever ethical and professional integrity and mainly suffers from what I mentioned in my pervious response psycho-pathology medically called Delirium which can be helped only by getting immediate treatment from a psychiatrist. We also need to keep in mind a leading educational institution like LSC if they have such academician we need to ask the credential of the LSC as a diverse educational institution if they allow one of their academician writing such racist, unscientfical and absolutely rubbish article. As far as I am aware of LSC is one of the worlds leading educational institution which have students, staff and academician from all over the world including Ethiopians and Africans. Who ever allowed this article to be published, I think must be regretting the day they allowed the article to be published. I think we have enough academicians in anthropology, psychologist, and academicians in other relevant subjects who can be able to write a perfect article or rip apart his study to make Satsoshi understand he is dealing with Ethiopians. You don’t mess with Ethiopians and get away with it. I think it will be good for Satsoshi to check his own IQ and come up with a good argument to defend his idea or so called finding, which again I doubt he will not be able to do so. Don’t you think so?
11/06/06 @ 10:39
Comment from: Alula Yemesker [Visitor]
Surly Kanazawa had a conversation with Satenaw and Kokeb. He then reached at this conclusion from what he had observed
11/06/06 @ 10:43
Comment from: Dr Zelalem Kebede, MD,MA,MBA [Visitor]
Dear Readers
Although I am busy at work I have decided to give you some medical explanation what led Dr Sataoshi Kanazawa to write about this IQ article. I have mentioned in my previous comments about his psycho-pathology and will give you a flavor why such people write such papers or end up in hot water and controversy. First we need to understand that Satoshi research focuses on the introduction of evolutionary psychology into all of the social sciences: sociology, psychology, economics, political science, and anthropology. A common theme in his otherwise varied work is the nature and limitations of the human brain, and the consequences for modern human social life of the human brain's difficulty in comprehending and dealing with entities and situations that did not exist in the ancestral environment.
You need to ask your self human being can focus on one thing at a time and try to master what he think he is good at before starting another. As you can see Satoshi is all over the place i.e he is into sociology, psychology, economics etc etc. which basically manifest a clear ability to focus, sustain or shift attention which is one of the classical symptoms of Delirium. I think the following 3 points will give you some understanding why I think he might be suffering from this psych-pathology.
A. If you have understood what he is doing currently we can establish how much this individual is very much disturbed. Delirium essential features of delirium include disturbances of consciousness, attention, cognition, and perception. The disturbance develops over a short period of time (usually hours to days) and tends to fluctuate during the course of the day. Disturbance of consciousness (i.e., reduced clarity of awareness of the environment) with reduced ability to focus, sustain, or shift attention.
B. A change in cognition (such as memory deficit, disorientation, language disturbance) or the development of a perceptual disturbance that is not better accounted for by a pre-existing, established, or evolving dementia.
C. The disturbance develops over a short period of time (usually hours to days) and tends to fluctuate during the course of the day.
As you can see the individual from the researches he is doing or intending to do or the article he wrote about Ethiopians is based on the ability to focus, sustain, or shift attention is frequently impaired and may result in the patient's being easily distracted.
Although standard psychiatric, general medical and neurological histories and examinations are usually sufficient to diagnose and evaluate the severity of delirium, they can be supplemented by assessments using formal instruments. Four types of instruments are briefly mentioned in the following sections: tests that screen for delirium symptoms, delirium diagnostic instruments, delirium symptom severity ratings, and some experimental laboratory tests.
I have asked a couple of my colleagues and leading Ethiopian consultant psychiatrists which are currently in UK if we can approach Dr Satoshi Kanazawa officially to try one of this method of investigation to establish how we can treat him before his psych-pathology leads him to cause more disappointment to other nationality and end up in discrediting a prestigious educational establishment like LSC. I think the earlier he sees a psychiatrist the better it will be for all concerned.
Although I am busy at work I have decided to give you some medical explanation what led Dr Sataoshi Kanazawa to write about this IQ article. I have mentioned in my previous comments about his psycho-pathology and will give you a flavor why such people write such papers or end up in hot water and controversy. First we need to understand that Satoshi research focuses on the introduction of evolutionary psychology into all of the social sciences: sociology, psychology, economics, political science, and anthropology. A common theme in his otherwise varied work is the nature and limitations of the human brain, and the consequences for modern human social life of the human brain's difficulty in comprehending and dealing with entities and situations that did not exist in the ancestral environment.
You need to ask your self human being can focus on one thing at a time and try to master what he think he is good at before starting another. As you can see Satoshi is all over the place i.e he is into sociology, psychology, economics etc etc. which basically manifest a clear ability to focus, sustain or shift attention which is one of the classical symptoms of Delirium. I think the following 3 points will give you some understanding why I think he might be suffering from this psych-pathology.
A. If you have understood what he is doing currently we can establish how much this individual is very much disturbed. Delirium essential features of delirium include disturbances of consciousness, attention, cognition, and perception. The disturbance develops over a short period of time (usually hours to days) and tends to fluctuate during the course of the day. Disturbance of consciousness (i.e., reduced clarity of awareness of the environment) with reduced ability to focus, sustain, or shift attention.
B. A change in cognition (such as memory deficit, disorientation, language disturbance) or the development of a perceptual disturbance that is not better accounted for by a pre-existing, established, or evolving dementia.
C. The disturbance develops over a short period of time (usually hours to days) and tends to fluctuate during the course of the day.
As you can see the individual from the researches he is doing or intending to do or the article he wrote about Ethiopians is based on the ability to focus, sustain, or shift attention is frequently impaired and may result in the patient's being easily distracted.
Although standard psychiatric, general medical and neurological histories and examinations are usually sufficient to diagnose and evaluate the severity of delirium, they can be supplemented by assessments using formal instruments. Four types of instruments are briefly mentioned in the following sections: tests that screen for delirium symptoms, delirium diagnostic instruments, delirium symptom severity ratings, and some experimental laboratory tests.
I have asked a couple of my colleagues and leading Ethiopian consultant psychiatrists which are currently in UK if we can approach Dr Satoshi Kanazawa officially to try one of this method of investigation to establish how we can treat him before his psych-pathology leads him to cause more disappointment to other nationality and end up in discrediting a prestigious educational establishment like LSC. I think the earlier he sees a psychiatrist the better it will be for all concerned.
11/06/06 @ 11:11
Comment from: diaspora [Visitor]
It is very sad. We still hear this type of ignorant racist remarks in the twenty first century. Yet read Alula Yemesker's comment; I am confused!
11/06/06 @ 11:30
Comment from: sam [Visitor]
First of all you must understand the difference between IQ and illiteracy. The problem of Africa is not low level of IQ, it is illiteracy. Why African peoples are illiterate I will tell you on a separate document on your demand, but I will assure you that it is not because of their level of IQ.
But what I understand from your "research paper" is that you are literate but with low level of IQ. In general you are ignorant and hate mongered dummy professor,.
I was Ashamed to see this university to publish your articles as a research document. This is just a document of personal and organization hate towards Africa.
But what I understand from your "research paper" is that you are literate but with low level of IQ. In general you are ignorant and hate mongered dummy professor,.
I was Ashamed to see this university to publish your articles as a research document. This is just a document of personal and organization hate towards Africa.
11/06/06 @ 11:47
Comment from: Tekleab [Visitor]
Folks, look who are supporting the professor's conclusion. Look who is happy.
WOYANE CADRES!
I have told you before I repeat it again, these Woyane cadres are absoultely evil.
Can anybody do this to himself and to his own countrymen except Woyane?
Anyhow, let me explain what is controversial about the Professor's paper. And you might have guessed it right..he makes an inference as to how societies behave based on national average IQ. What bothers me about this is that while the Oriental countries have an IQ level higher than that of the Europeans, these same people have been slaves of boat loads of Europeans for decades and sometimes centuries.
A good question to ask is therefore if IQ was indicative of how real societies behave, how come that the Asians fell pray to the Europeans?
It is one thing to critically examine the work of the professor and another to cheer it mindlessly.
WOYANE CADRES!
I have told you before I repeat it again, these Woyane cadres are absoultely evil.
Can anybody do this to himself and to his own countrymen except Woyane?
Anyhow, let me explain what is controversial about the Professor's paper. And you might have guessed it right..he makes an inference as to how societies behave based on national average IQ. What bothers me about this is that while the Oriental countries have an IQ level higher than that of the Europeans, these same people have been slaves of boat loads of Europeans for decades and sometimes centuries.
A good question to ask is therefore if IQ was indicative of how real societies behave, how come that the Asians fell pray to the Europeans?
It is one thing to critically examine the work of the professor and another to cheer it mindlessly.
11/06/06 @ 11:50
Comment from: merdsa geda [Visitor]
The truth is Ethiopian has more IQ than the racist white yellow..the fact speaks more when white are living in the caves ethiopian live and build irgation religion,,toughted white isralites and arbes.that is the fact.learn the real human geniss before greacc ethiopian toughted how to live the wider world.
11/06/06 @ 12:04
Comment from: Wesi [Visitor]
If this research used African leaders as its sample, it is acurate result. Probably, when he randomize his sample, he got Meles, Issayas and Mugabe.
That is why his findings surprised us. Otherwise, if he would have done this research in US, involving African, American, Asian and Europian Children, providing uniform educational materials,he would definitely comeup with different findings.
That is why his findings surprised us. Otherwise, if he would have done this research in US, involving African, American, Asian and Europian Children, providing uniform educational materials,he would definitely comeup with different findings.
11/06/06 @ 12:09
Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member] 
Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist ???!!!
You should then know that the latest humans always come from Africa. It's your field's own scientific fact (evolution) that we are the source and therefore, as water doesn't naturally flow above it's source, whatever your result for Africa's IQ, yours and others will sure have to be much much lower and guess what? It shows!
They sure seem to go back to the old techniques of degrading our humanity... any plans to re-colonize Africa and make us better than we are now?
Anyways those selfish and greedy for power and money that are making us the laughing stoke of the world might not have a problem with it.
How sad is all this, are we at the bottom yet or will we also soon be scientifically excluded from the human race altogether?
Ra
11/06/06 @ 12:09
Comment from: Dr Zelalem Kebede, MD,MA,MBA [Visitor]
I would like to thank Dr Wondwossen Ezineh for the correction and it’s good to know how many Ethiopians are trying to acknowledge each others expertise rather than taking credit for things which either they don’t know or are not familiar with. Followed the point I made about his delirium think Satoshi can learn something from us and I think his condition which I firmly believe still is an etiologically nonspecific syndrome characterized by concurrent disturbances of consciousness and attention, perception, thinking, memory, psychomotor behavior, emotion, and the sleep-wake cycle. It may occur at any age but is most common on people like Satoshi. The delirious state is transient and of fluctuating intensity; most cases recover within 4 weeks or less which I hope will be the case if Satoshi accepts that he have made a mistake about his findings. However, delirium lasting, with fluctuations, for up to 6 months is not uncommon, especially when arising in the course of chronic liver disease, carcinoma, or sub acute bacterial endocarditis. As my expertise is on mental health specifically on ethnic=minorities like Satoshi it will be difficult for me to say something on the internal illness which might cause Satoshi from manifesting delirium. The distinction that is sometimes made between acute and sub acute delirium is of little clinical relevance; the condition should be seen as a unitary syndrome of variable duration and severity ranging from mild to very severe. In Satoshi case I think is very severe. A delirious state may be superimposed on, or progress into, dementia. And this will be a catastrophe if he is allowed to write more with the condition he is at the moment. As I have professional obligation I have to inform others and also Satoshi how his condition is severe. If not I don’t think some one with stable state of mind can say things about Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Don’t you think so? I will leave the judgment to my country people and professionals, and will be looking forward to read more fact based criticism towards Satoshi publication.
11/06/06 @ 12:09
Comment from: Emmett [Visitor]
This just shows, once again, that IQ tests do not measure innate intelligence, the test measures education and training. From the time I've spent with Ethiopians, I can tell you that it is unbelievable that Ethiopians have the least intelligence from around the world.
Using the "logic" of the eugenicists, Ethiopians would be more intelligent than others in Africa because of Ethiopia's more diverse genetic pool. I say that not to suggests that Ethiopians are brighter than other Africans but to make the point that the IQ tests just don't work. They measure exposure to education and training. Ethiopia's low IQ scores derives from its low per capita income (which means low education).
There is a recurring problem in statistical analysis called multicollinearity; this occurs when several variables move with one antoher. In other words, there are nations that have high income, high education, high health, and high IQ scores. Then there are nations that have low income, low education, low health, low IQ scores. A poorly trained "social scientist" may try to infere that one of these things "causes" another, such as low IQ cuases poverty. But the data don't support such a claim. All the data show is that nations which tend to be poor also tend to have less healthcare and less education, which is to be expected because they have less money.
Using the "logic" of the eugenicists, Ethiopians would be more intelligent than others in Africa because of Ethiopia's more diverse genetic pool. I say that not to suggests that Ethiopians are brighter than other Africans but to make the point that the IQ tests just don't work. They measure exposure to education and training. Ethiopia's low IQ scores derives from its low per capita income (which means low education).
There is a recurring problem in statistical analysis called multicollinearity; this occurs when several variables move with one antoher. In other words, there are nations that have high income, high education, high health, and high IQ scores. Then there are nations that have low income, low education, low health, low IQ scores. A poorly trained "social scientist" may try to infere that one of these things "causes" another, such as low IQ cuases poverty. But the data don't support such a claim. All the data show is that nations which tend to be poor also tend to have less healthcare and less education, which is to be expected because they have less money.
11/06/06 @ 12:21
Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]
Asian don't know well African in particular & blacks in general, & their judgement in general is based on streotypes. Most Asians are not confirtable with blacks & tend to use racist streotypes. Observe an Asian at work or school & s/he is not cofrtable with blacks.
The prof. conclusion may stem from this cultue. Also, to measure Ethiopians/Africans IQ based on western IQ test could result in bad conclusion.
But I wonder is it true? Do we may have a low intelengence level? Is that why we have all these problems?
11/06/06 @ 12:23
Comment from: Maji [Visitor]
I am sure the researcher's IQ itself is very much below his own findings of 63. He is the most evil racist whose mind and thought has completely stuck in the past just like the old tosspot Lekim.
11/06/06 @ 12:24
Comment from: Che Guivera [Visitor]
This is but a lunatic Japanese who claims to be a researcher playing the outdated racist card.
We Ethiopians are showing we are the world's most intelligent people if we were given the chance wherever in the world we are. That is why the majority of us are scoring the highest point in western universities that we are attending.
We Ethiopians are showing we are the world's most intelligent people if we were given the chance wherever in the world we are. That is why the majority of us are scoring the highest point in western universities that we are attending.
11/06/06 @ 12:24
Comment from: sam [Visitor]
Satoshi Kanazawa's wife is raped and killed by black man in 1999 and the killer is freed by UK judges because there is no evidence. After 7 years of silence he came up with this idea to revenge against all Africans. Just ignore him because he is ignorant. He didn't understand the difference b/n IQ and illiteracy.
11/06/06 @ 12:29
Comment from: Selememaster [Visitor]
FREE
I agree on his findings. I think he talked with you and your cousins before he come up with his conclusion. Maferia.
I agree on his findings. I think he talked with you and your cousins before he come up with his conclusion. Maferia.
11/06/06 @ 12:44
Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Dr Zelalem Kebede,
My guess would be that it takes more than four weeks or 6 months to conduct a meaningful scientific research. Hence your concept of this guy suffering from a temporary “ delirium lasting, with fluctuations, for up to 6 months” doesn’t make any sense. Dr Satoshi Kanazawa is nothing but a rotten bigot who comes from closed society with despicable past history. I believe we have many people like him in Ethiopia and in this very forum. Putting a title of Dr. before ones names doesn’t necessary prove ones level of intelligence nor does it warranty the existence of commonsense. One can train a monkey to carryout many tasks that humans waste a life time in mastering.
By the way were did you get your degree from!
11/06/06 @ 12:49
Comment from: tafesse [Visitor]
Wow, wow, wow, wait a second, friend and foe. I have no reason whatsoever apriori to accuse Kanazawa for evil intentions or planning a holocaust, nor do I have reasons to doubt his credentials because his paper is published in a peer-reviewed and respected paper, the British Journal of Health Psychology. He is only presenting his findings and observations as supported by whatever evidence he has compiled. It is not up to me to judge the validity of his conclusions, since I am not qualified. Neither are you. Let us leave that to better qualified people, his peers.
Having said that, he only gave us his views. He did not say we have to believe it or even accept it. I am against the way some people on this blog protest, demonstrate and attempt to deny him the academic liberty that rightly belongs to a sceientist. These are the rules of the game in Academia. Some of you guys are protesting just like the protesters in Islamabd and other Islamic cities did when they heard about the cartoons depicting The Prophet, thus affecting negatively Islamic modesty and sensibilities. I do not think it is especially intelligent for us to shove facts under the carpet and pretend all is well. IT IS NOT, my friend.
But to come to your rescue, allow me to relate a story abour the misuse of IQ tests. Five year old Martin, a black child from Mississipi answered zero, when he was asked what the total would be if the teacher gave him one dollar and his dad gave him another dollar. All the other kids answered 2 dollars, i.e. correctly. At the end of the test the teacher called back Martin to ask him why he said zero. Martin answered gladly. "Whatever money I get my mom takes it from me, anyway." Yet another story, a guy lost his way in the country side and met two fellows who in his view could have been the village idiots. He stopped to ask them which way to the town house. He had prviously asked many others who could not answer him because they could not speak English. This time, however, one of those guys showed him the way. The traveller wondered and asked them, how come they spoke English while all the others he had met so far could not. Obviously the stranger could speak several languages, except the language spoken in this particular village. The village idiot answered him, "Why should we speak English. Look how far it got you. You are lost despite the fact that you speak several languages."
Moral of the story: Ethiopian IQ used to be high until people changed their middle name to Diaspora.
Having said that, he only gave us his views. He did not say we have to believe it or even accept it. I am against the way some people on this blog protest, demonstrate and attempt to deny him the academic liberty that rightly belongs to a sceientist. These are the rules of the game in Academia. Some of you guys are protesting just like the protesters in Islamabd and other Islamic cities did when they heard about the cartoons depicting The Prophet, thus affecting negatively Islamic modesty and sensibilities. I do not think it is especially intelligent for us to shove facts under the carpet and pretend all is well. IT IS NOT, my friend.
But to come to your rescue, allow me to relate a story abour the misuse of IQ tests. Five year old Martin, a black child from Mississipi answered zero, when he was asked what the total would be if the teacher gave him one dollar and his dad gave him another dollar. All the other kids answered 2 dollars, i.e. correctly. At the end of the test the teacher called back Martin to ask him why he said zero. Martin answered gladly. "Whatever money I get my mom takes it from me, anyway." Yet another story, a guy lost his way in the country side and met two fellows who in his view could have been the village idiots. He stopped to ask them which way to the town house. He had prviously asked many others who could not answer him because they could not speak English. This time, however, one of those guys showed him the way. The traveller wondered and asked them, how come they spoke English while all the others he had met so far could not. Obviously the stranger could speak several languages, except the language spoken in this particular village. The village idiot answered him, "Why should we speak English. Look how far it got you. You are lost despite the fact that you speak several languages."
Moral of the story: Ethiopian IQ used to be high until people changed their middle name to Diaspora.
11/06/06 @ 12:50
Comment from: tafesse [Visitor]
Please guys, let us not take leave of our sanity, thus providing Sakanawa with still more evidence.
11/06/06 @ 12:58
Comment from: Tullu [Visitor]
That is BS in total. Mr. Kanazawa are you a researcher at all ?
11/06/06 @ 13:09
Comment from: Alula Yemesker [Visitor]
lekim,
Isn't it interesting to notice how things fall in their respective places?
Thank you for understanding.
Isn't it interesting to notice how things fall in their respective places?
Thank you for understanding.
11/06/06 @ 13:16
Comment from: OK [Visitor]
The aggressor and the one who insults nations and make himself superior is the one who is inferior.
We know, that those who remained stuck in the IQ-theory, are still stuck in the past: There must be something that they suffer from.
Why do they still hate Africans?
We know, that those who remained stuck in the IQ-theory, are still stuck in the past: There must be something that they suffer from.
Why do they still hate Africans?
11/06/06 @ 13:43
Comment from: almaz [Visitor]
How about other Asian countries who are poor and starving. e.g India, Phillipines, Cambodians, Koreans, Afganastens etc. What is their IQ according to the Proffessor?
11/06/06 @ 14:00
Comment from: Geltu [Visitor]
I guess the reason why the the evolutionary psychologist came up with such conclusion is because he did not digest well the theories of evolution he tried to use for his work. Let us see the following:
He must have read that evolution is descent with modification and as a result, the modern humans are with better anatomy and expanded cerebrum(brain). The oldest known human is Ethiopian, named Lucy and her newly found daughter-Selam(both are fossils found that in Ethiopia). Ethiopians are the oldest people in evolution. Based on that premise used by Satoshi, therefore,Ethiopians must have smaller cerebrum, and low IQ.
This is a funny conclusion! Evolution is change and the change may be influenced by the environment. Sustaining life in chaleging environment and condition requires more adaptive features. The adaptive features must help that population to think wisely and devise strategy to escape dangers. This is a clear manifestation of development of the brain. Ethiopians did not give up to harsh conditions, even did not fall in the hands of colonizers. This is because they can devise a way out. This can't come without a person with IQ.
He must have read that evolution is descent with modification and as a result, the modern humans are with better anatomy and expanded cerebrum(brain). The oldest known human is Ethiopian, named Lucy and her newly found daughter-Selam(both are fossils found that in Ethiopia). Ethiopians are the oldest people in evolution. Based on that premise used by Satoshi, therefore,Ethiopians must have smaller cerebrum, and low IQ.
This is a funny conclusion! Evolution is change and the change may be influenced by the environment. Sustaining life in chaleging environment and condition requires more adaptive features. The adaptive features must help that population to think wisely and devise strategy to escape dangers. This is a clear manifestation of development of the brain. Ethiopians did not give up to harsh conditions, even did not fall in the hands of colonizers. This is because they can devise a way out. This can't come without a person with IQ.
11/06/06 @ 14:01
Comment from: coolman [Visitor]
In the 19th Century Charles Darwin developed the theory of evolution in which he argued that human beings evolved from apes millions of years ago. A significant aspect of this theory was a belief in ‘the survival of the fittest’ or ‘natural selection’ which, crudely explained, meant it was natural for the strongest members of a species to survive and that some species would become altogether extinct.
This Darwinian theory influenced some scientists in the 19th Century who used the notion of ‘survival of the fittest’ to justify the exploitation of black people by Europeans. These racial theorists argued that white people were the superior race followed by ‘yellows’ then ‘blacks’.
The Nazis also manipulated Darwin’s scientific theory for their own ends. They turned his ideas into a pattern for social and political organization. The apartheid regimes also justified their inhuman system with such blatantly misguided and intentionally distorted pseudoscientific argument. This is known as Social Darwinism.
As many fellow country men said above, all the IQ measurement tools are developed for the industrialized nations and are totally inapplicable to our societies. Dr. Kanazawa knows these facts, of course. However, it is up to the the scientist to interpret the empirical data available. I am wondering how his article got published? Usually, such articles are peer reviewed. Unfortunately, this is not about social anthropology or psychology rather motivated by greed and insatiable desire for publicity. It is a shame and highly unfair to denounce and insult billions of people around the glob. I know too many intellectuals and brave daughters and sons of Africa to be shaken by this would-like-to-scientist.
Emmett,
Thank you for your words and sanity.
Here a quote from Wikipedia,
May be Dr. Kanazawa dreaming about a new invasion of Asia by his country to exterminate all inferior races. If this is a sign of super intelligence? I very much doubt it. The industrialized or let me say "developed countries" have exploited the planet so that our protective Ozone layer is porous, global warming is causing climate instabilities. We see the results as hurricanes, flood, extreme, dry periods etc. Many species disappear forever. The amazonian forest is being deforested to such an extent that it can be seen from Satellites. Who is causing most of these problems? Are not the so called developed countries with "high IQ"? Is it a sign of intelligence to cut the branch of a tree you are sitting on? I guess not.
Dr. Zelalem,
Thank you for your time and comments.
I am not a physician and do not want to question your diagnosis of Dr. Kanazawa. However, don't you think that inferiority complex is also highly indicated here?
Peace
This Darwinian theory influenced some scientists in the 19th Century who used the notion of ‘survival of the fittest’ to justify the exploitation of black people by Europeans. These racial theorists argued that white people were the superior race followed by ‘yellows’ then ‘blacks’.
The Nazis also manipulated Darwin’s scientific theory for their own ends. They turned his ideas into a pattern for social and political organization. The apartheid regimes also justified their inhuman system with such blatantly misguided and intentionally distorted pseudoscientific argument. This is known as Social Darwinism.
As many fellow country men said above, all the IQ measurement tools are developed for the industrialized nations and are totally inapplicable to our societies. Dr. Kanazawa knows these facts, of course. However, it is up to the the scientist to interpret the empirical data available. I am wondering how his article got published? Usually, such articles are peer reviewed. Unfortunately, this is not about social anthropology or psychology rather motivated by greed and insatiable desire for publicity. It is a shame and highly unfair to denounce and insult billions of people around the glob. I know too many intellectuals and brave daughters and sons of Africa to be shaken by this would-like-to-scientist.
Emmett,
Thank you for your words and sanity.
Here a quote from Wikipedia,
"Historically, eugenics has been used as a justification for coercive state-sponsored discrimination and human rights violations, such as forced sterilization of persons with genetic defects, the killing of the institutionalized and, in some cases, genocide on races perceived as inferior."
May be Dr. Kanazawa dreaming about a new invasion of Asia by his country to exterminate all inferior races. If this is a sign of super intelligence? I very much doubt it. The industrialized or let me say "developed countries" have exploited the planet so that our protective Ozone layer is porous, global warming is causing climate instabilities. We see the results as hurricanes, flood, extreme, dry periods etc. Many species disappear forever. The amazonian forest is being deforested to such an extent that it can be seen from Satellites. Who is causing most of these problems? Are not the so called developed countries with "high IQ"? Is it a sign of intelligence to cut the branch of a tree you are sitting on? I guess not.
Dr. Zelalem,
Thank you for your time and comments.
I am not a physician and do not want to question your diagnosis of Dr. Kanazawa. However, don't you think that inferiority complex is also highly indicated here?
Peace
11/06/06 @ 14:12
Comment from: ethioboy [Visitor]
Just go through the
articles he wrote before. It is very sad that this guy is full of hatred.
articles he wrote before. It is very sad that this guy is full of hatred.
11/06/06 @ 14:24
Comment from: The Cat [Visitor]
"Dr Zelalem Kebede, MD,MA,MBA":
We don't really deserve to have medical, psychological or social reasons to defend ourselves. It is enough to say two things: Statistics is full of lies after lies specially when it is applied to living staffs and particularly to human beings.
After all who prepares IQ(Intelligence quotient)? The westerns! It was designed accord to their norm, culture and thinking and way of life. So, it might work where the test is supposed to work for.
Imagine I prepare my own test according to my norm, culture and paradigm, Satoshi Kanazawa himself may get the lowest IQ never heard in this planet. Then according the test I designed, he is the least intelligent, just to be polite. The indicators for his low IQ may be,: he doesn't wake up early morning and go to church, he never wears a robe when he goes to funerals, he never thanks his GOD, he never has "Eder and Equb", he never knows that we lag 7 years behind the European calendar.... As a consequence of his low IQ , this man speaks garbage staffs that usually offend people which bring him a lot of criticism, he is outcasted from the society, suffers alone when things go wrong against him....
The real IQ test is as rubbish as the one I mentioned above. It is how the westerns terrorize us to mobilize scientific advancement, to make us mentally dependent on them .
Finally some one who claims himself a doctor says that doctors have at least an IQ of 125. Shame on you!
Medicine , I believe, is one of the disciplines which don't need high "IQ". I never heard of people joining medicine having an IQ test in our country. So, your generalization is as poor and as offending as Satoshi Kanazawa's “research paper“. Citing all your title is an additional shame. We accept your ideas, not your title. Hang your title at the wall of your house.
Finally, It is impossible to have intellectual test. So, there is no IQ test!Those who designed the IQ test have the lowest figure and those who believe in it are indifferent!
We don't really deserve to have medical, psychological or social reasons to defend ourselves. It is enough to say two things: Statistics is full of lies after lies specially when it is applied to living staffs and particularly to human beings.
After all who prepares IQ(Intelligence quotient)? The westerns! It was designed accord to their norm, culture and thinking and way of life. So, it might work where the test is supposed to work for.
Imagine I prepare my own test according to my norm, culture and paradigm, Satoshi Kanazawa himself may get the lowest IQ never heard in this planet. Then according the test I designed, he is the least intelligent, just to be polite. The indicators for his low IQ may be,: he doesn't wake up early morning and go to church, he never wears a robe when he goes to funerals, he never thanks his GOD, he never has "Eder and Equb", he never knows that we lag 7 years behind the European calendar.... As a consequence of his low IQ , this man speaks garbage staffs that usually offend people which bring him a lot of criticism, he is outcasted from the society, suffers alone when things go wrong against him....
The real IQ test is as rubbish as the one I mentioned above. It is how the westerns terrorize us to mobilize scientific advancement, to make us mentally dependent on them .
Finally some one who claims himself a doctor says that doctors have at least an IQ of 125. Shame on you!
Medicine , I believe, is one of the disciplines which don't need high "IQ". I never heard of people joining medicine having an IQ test in our country. So, your generalization is as poor and as offending as Satoshi Kanazawa's “research paper“. Citing all your title is an additional shame. We accept your ideas, not your title. Hang your title at the wall of your house.
Finally, It is impossible to have intellectual test. So, there is no IQ test!Those who designed the IQ test have the lowest figure and those who believe in it are indifferent!
11/06/06 @ 14:41
Comment from: girma eshete [Visitor]
DOes this researcher know the fact that African immigrants are the most and best educated in America?
Given equal opportunity, African have demonstrated they can excel at everything.
Given equal opportunity, African have demonstrated they can excel at everything.
11/06/06 @ 14:49
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