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Dear readers! This war is not between Ethiopians and Somalis or between Islam and Christianity, as has been labeled by some in recent weeks .It is between Woyane and Somalia Islamic extremists, It is just a war between two extreme and desperate groups who have no official mandate from their people. Let’s hope that this war would bring the downfall and removal of both the brutal Meles government in Ethiopia and the Islamic extremists in Somalia and peace to East Africa
Your country is arming and abbeting Woyane and now you talk here. Go and fool your fool. We know who is behind this war. Your talk does not relieve the deprived Ethiopians and Somalians of their suffering.
I am ashamed of living in the world where a nation that claims to be the world’s superpower is too greedy to care about human life.
Don’t worry Sir,
Situation is under control. Somalia now has a better oportunity under TFG. it is now the responsibility of TFG, AU, and UN to make sure that the peace of Somalia is sustained.
Now the people of Somali, If they want to be lead by Sheria, or what ever, it is upto them. They have the freedom to do whatever they want, they can exercise the religin they want. No More ectrimist, dangerious, foreign elements.
Peace to Somalia!
That did not look like a holy war more like holy shit. one love
nice to see you burn!
U ethiopians r going to another Iraq. Look after ur people. Next will be between OROMO, TIGRAI, AMARA, and ur own Moslim. Meles is going to keep ur stupid mouth and butt shut.
Do you have any guarante where the somali Transitional government is moving? After the situation is settled down your groups the weyane will be out of the game. Things don’t stay as you put it. Politics has a dynamic nature as it has been shown in many world parts. For example, the colapse of the friendship of SHAEBIA and WEYANE, which was out of expctetion, and you can also remember your own groups division, the weyane leadership. How could you say the situation is under control. Don’t keep up with your one room mind. Open it for analyses. You guys, the weyanes, will be involved in a very complex equation in the near future. Internally we Ethiopians have an unfinished assignment. Do you have any clue what we are doing to kick out the weyane gnagsters? Be ready Mr. thief to stand before the law for the crimes you comitted.
Don’t worry. I have the assurance. I am talking about Israeli-US, or can I say South Corea-US kind of relation ship?? If you have the polictical determination then U can make things happen for the interest of the region.
We are talking about real life scenarios, not ideal cases like you want to analyze. Ofcourse TFG is another government who will make sure that itsinterest are met no matter what, and we as a country will always make sure that our interests are met and we have shown that all the time, and we will achieve that even if it is going to be by blood.
We will always fight to keep our interests with out affecting the interest of our neighbours, the Nile-Negotation that is being underway could show you this fact. In a world where people do not have integrety, honesty, political maturity, good leadership quality, it is always a must to have alternative starategies and we always had and we will have it in the near future.
So as the Americans say, There are things that you do not know, and that we call it STATE Secret!!! if you dedicate your life to serving the nation, then you will have the oportunity to know the plans and the stratagies our country men had for the kind of scenarios that you are worrying about.
Aye Eritrea, yeafrica Hong Kong
What do you think Meles is going to do next? If I were an Eritrean, I would have asked Afeworky to surrender the two ports Melese gave him by mistake. The Ethiopian soldiers in Somalia are disappointed with the resistance they faced and they want to release all that adrenalin somewhere. It sounds like Eritrea is just the place.
Bad afeworki bad Eritreans what you gonna do, what you gonna do when Melse come for you. Kikiiiiki
Mohamed Alli, where are you?? It sounds like funny is taking over your old job. That is sad. Is he your boss. That is why you never say anything bad about him. In the last posting, it sounds like he was ordering you, bummer. You are still a slave.
As a diplomat Mr.Shin knows that the TPLF solders involvement in somalia is to divert the internal political crisis the government is facing inside the country.That is the main reason Ethiopians (in general) did not support Zenawi’s adventure in Somalia.United States should not support a regime which is one of the worst human right violators Ethiopia has ever seen in its history.
God Bless Ethiopia.
Interesting points. Not sure I agree with some of the points. It is very easy to say that all foreign troops should leave Somalia, but how the hell is that going to be enforced? Who are the Jihadists going to listen to? Who is Issayas going to listen to? This is an unachievable goal from the onset.
There are several unknowns in the still evolving situation:
1) will the clans in the capital be able to work with the TFG?
2) will the moderates in the ICU break ranks and join the TFG?
3) will Somalis tame their ego and seize this opportunity to work with each other or will they think of the TFG as a puppet of ET and reject it?
4) why didn’t the ET forces chase the retreating Jihadists and destroy them on their way to Kismayo?
5) will the TFG be able to stand on its own once the ET forces go home?
6) where the hell are the Eritreans? They already fled?
The next few days will be critical. Law and order needs to be restored in the capital. But really, the Jihadists need to be hunted down and destroyed so that they have no chance of mounting any possible attack.
Dear Dr. Shinn:
First let me put forward my question and concern to you.
I agree in principle to your suggestions specially regarding withdrawal of foreign participants in Somalia.
However, given the context of the global political and military or quasi-military dynamics, it is very difficult to believe that idea could be practical. It would rather remain a matter of principle to be preached by NGO’s only. The reality in the world is entirely different. In practice it would not be possible to create Somalia free of any foreign elements and foreign influence under today’s circumstance. And the political game in that country has got multi-participants who have multi-interests.
Therefore, any decision to withdraw foreign forces will primarily hamper the roles of those forces who officially involved in the conflict like Ethiopia as other forces sustain their secret involvement in one way or the other. Thus, such move is unfair as it suppresses the involvement and representation of one group of the participants while empowering that of the other group. Such opinion, while it is noble in principle, is totally based on theoretical hypothesis and does not take into account the objective reality. Hence, it cannot bring solution, but rather distorts the prevailing power balance attained at sacrifice. The “Arms Embargo” decision of the UN Security Council was also similar to this. In practice it did not work towards its intended goal. Rather it worked to the contrary, and the result is the homework Meles is now doing. So such suggestion at this point is like finding a way to get time for the defeated/weakened group to revive. Secret and illegal activities usually remain active irrespective of whatever laws put in effect to ban them. On the other hand official and express operations are so liable.
To Ethiopians, as one writer clearly indicated above, this war is not between Ethiopia and Somalia. It is between Ethiopia’s Woyane and Somalia’s UIC - two extremely antidemocratic self-appointed gangs who have no mandate to rule. However, the war cannot be considered to be entirely Woyane war as it has inevitable results on the future Ethio-Somalian relations. One fact about this war is whether or not we Ethiopians acknowledge this war, we will definitely take the consequences both now as we are in war and in the future in shaping the relationship between the two countries. Now that we are already in the war, we better acknowledge it and try to shape it in a constructive way for a better and sustainable result.
The Weyanes are clueless on what they got in to just like the way to the May 2005 election. They are too dumb to understand the obvious. They just started a very long nasty and dangerous war. God save Ethiopia from these brainless creatures.
the solution and the one Prof. Shinn has mised is for AU and/or IGAD peace keeping force to quickly move in to fill the void that will be created as Ethiopian army leave. These will have a double purpose; 1, keeping the peace and not giving a chance for the warlordism to resurrect. 2, assuring all somalis to concentrate in draftng the constitution in time and forming a government (whether democracy or islamic).
it is important that the void shold be filled by a conventional peaceful army led by either Uganda or even south africa until full stability most probabily until election.
What the former U.S. Ambasador is not talking is their interest to have a puppet Government in Somalia like they have in Ethiopia and suck the resources for their benefit while the people of Somalia, Ethiopia like other African countries are suffering under “friendly tyrannts", poverty and disease.
The expert advised that the OLF and ONLF should be out of Somalia if they are there but does not say where they have to go or their possibility of being part of the Ethiopian politics.
Why does not the expert speak of the tyranny of the “friendly tyrannt” and the imprisonment of 100 or so of opposition leaders and 20-30,000 of its supports.
It what the expert is writing a receipt for peace. I don`t think so. Either he does not want peace because one of the interests of his country is to sell weapons.
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