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Thank you NY Times for giving such a great attention and coming out with these story. It is a great assistance to the strugle for freedom and democracy in the country. Great story. Very factual.
DOWN WITH THE WOYANE!!!!!
I’m not WOYANES fan, but I respect their action againist enemy of development of Ethiopia like ONLF. Ethiopia should take more serious action againist this idiot rebels.
ONLF is trying to spin propoganda and get
an international attenion. Ogaden is and
will always be an Ethiopian, come what may.
Where ever there is oil in Africa. It is expected from western media to instigate ethnic conflicts.
If there is oil somewhere they have to control it. Otherwise they will destroy you with their weapon(media not nuclear).
The media is the strongest weapon these days. Now that China is involved in the utilization of the oil in Ogaden the west are going to do their best to creat some chaos arround there. The easiest way to do that is to disseminate these kind of stories on this article.
Ethiopians should be wise on handling this case. These people are the incarnation of the devil. They have all the means and the heart to do evil things. Where ever there is precious natural resource there is such kinds of stories on first pages of media of the west.
I pray to god so that the rule of evile ends in the world.
How long shall we bow to these spawns of devil?
Zerish It is good at list now you understad being or called WOYANE is a shame because of what they are doing and thinking.Since you support their did you are primitive too like them and you have to be ashamed.
What Develepment are you talking about! Raping and killing innocent people, is that what you call development.
This region has ONE HIGH SCHOOL, forget about hospitals.
The TPLF led regime is the worst. never in Ethiopain history we seen RAPE. Even during Mingestu if soldier commits any crime there was consequence. But the current regime promotes any soldier who kills and rapes innocent peopl.
I am from there and I know what is happening there.
Thanks to NY Times Journalist, even though Meles soldieres prisoned them and confiscated their equipment they were able to send some clips from ogaden heartland.
Remember our struggle against derg. We
were so desperate we allied with
‘evry thing’ against derg by the so called
policy of the the enemy of my enemy is
my friend. Look what brought to us. We
worked hand in hand with eplf and eprdg.
No more arm struggle! War between brothers
must be stopped for once and for all in ethiopia. the peacefull struggle which is
bringing a tremendous change in ethiopia
will continue. And the defense force will
take care of eplf and its allies.
those who dont see the change eprdf
made on its policy slowly but surely are
ignoring the sacrifice the Ethiopian people
have done through out the last 16 years.
Remember we eprdf wanted to unite the
Ethiopian arilinse with the eritrean
while they even dont have a single airplane.
And we used to boycott melotti and eprdf
used to sell meloti by putting bedelle
trade mark on meloti. But now eprdf is
fighting against isayas to keep the ethiopian interest. this is the result
of our heros sacrifice. and they didnt
take arm, olny peacefull democracy struggele.
(melles landed a jet in asmara to pick
isayas up on the way to ny un meeting)
ONLF is working under the command of
eplf so it must be counter attacked and
eliminated as soon as possible.
Peace full struggle for democracy.
Good Job Man now I smell your real Ethiopian position!!!
ogaden is ours!!!
Armed struggle againt a government which
basiclly has a PHD in gurrela warfare
is near impossible to defeat .
Ogadeans are Ethiopinans if they are
suffering and the government is not
doing much about it,it should be up to
us other Ethiopian to help get their cause
heard more,try to help them finacialy
to devolupe their region for is’nt that
what unity is.Concering the rapes and
torture it is hard to say weather is
true or false .the ethiopian army is
highly decipled evidencec of this is
shown in the war with ertrea but even
the worlds powerful milatary are guilty
of crime such as theses.But then again
theses sort of problem of sepreation
that ethiopia continues to face by some
states has it roots in the past as
ethiopian rulers have always tried to
excerise a one religon,one culture ,
sort of policy and in the process commited
atrocities agaist certain ethinic groups
and religons.Ethiopian we generaly only
mention the good things of the past but
hide the bad in our hearts,we speak of
Atse Yohannes dedication to the Orthodox
church and of his bravery yet hide the
hatred he had for muslims ,we speak of
Atse Mililk of the conqure of and the
maker of modern day ethiopia but hide
the the suffering of the oromos, the
Eritean who were seperated from their
country and given to the Italians which
latter they fought against the ethiopian
rulers claiming that they do not wont
to be part of the empire.we all speak
of unity but true unity dose not come
by force what we saw in the war in Tigray
Afar,Eritrea and oromia is the years
of suffering and neglect.this problem
can be solved by aknowleging the suffering
of theses people and respecting their
culture and religion if
Ethiopia is to grow and prosper have
true unity .
the real real issue about ogaden is oil,
everything else is smokescreen. ONLF is gunning for the oil so is the ethiopian government. ONLF doesn’t want any development t to take place in ogaden, so they can justify their struggle for independce from ethiopia. it’s all about petro-dollars!!!
The establishment of a genuine democratic system is the ONLY viable option that can effectively solve this and other numerous problems afflicting our country.
The alternative is a doomsday scenario.
The saddest part is that Ethiopia’s TPLF/EPRDF leaders seem to think that there is an alternative to Unity in Diversity.
The separatist option they hold dear is the undoing of a whole continent and its complete and permanent subordination.
No Ethiopian should take pleasure from this story regardless of your political platform. This article is a major propaganda coup for the terrorist ONLF to get their story published on the front page of The New York times.
I have not learned anything new from this story. The report is full of hearsay and just what the witnesses said. This young NYT reporter did not have any concrete evidence to support the rape and torture allegations. It is just rumor and all he is reporting is what ONLF is telling him. Just because NYT publishes does not mean it is true, if you don’t believe me ask Judy Miller and Jason Blair.
I am a nationalist Ethiopian who strongly believes in the territorial integrity of Ethiopia and someone who will never ever forgive Woyane for making Ethiopia a land locked country. Despite the hatred I have towards the TPLF regime, I am 100% with them to destroy these Islamic terrorists, especially since they killed the oil workers; I have no mercy for these tugs.
Those who are against Woyane, be careful of what you wish for. Can you imagine the worst case scenario where Woyane were to collapse with no strong party to take over and with all these so called liberation fronts, what the future of our country will be like? It will be the end of a Strong united Ethiopia. Don’t ever forget that Woyane is in power not because they fought their way to Addis, but Hodam people hated Menge more than they hated Woyane and did not have the will power to fight Woyane. And the rest is history. Who knew that there could be a government worst than Derg and here we are with Woyane who gave away our access to the sea.
As bad as Woyane is, I want nothing but a Strong united Ethiopia and do not want a sudden collapse of the Woyane regime with out a viable party to take over. Whether you like it or not, we do not have a viable party to take over at this time.
Our Flag and Country should come first before CUD, EPRDF or whatever. I am first and foremost Ethiopian and will support any government who will destroy our enemy i.e OLF, ONLF, Eritrea and so on. But I know TPLF will not destroy Eritrea until these two ugly Eritreans Meles and Bereket Simon get hanged. Pray for Ethiopia people, don’t make me see my country being like Somalia in my lifetime.
Woyane, Kill These Bastard Ogaden Shiftas. If they don’t want to be in Ethiopia, they can move to Somalia and join their brothers and sisters there. Menelik should have baptized these bastards and we wouldn’t have this problem now.
In many ways, Ethiopia has a lot going for it these days: new buildings, new roads, low crime and a booming trade in cut flowers and coffee. It is the second most populous country in sub-Saharan Africa, behind Nigeria, with 77 million people.
the society is illitrate. the top officials are trying to do the best but thoes at the ottom of the ladder seem inefficient.
if anybody thinks meles sends thoes people or his soldiers to rape, you got to be kidding me.
and onlf is asked to negotiate its demand in the proper way.
i am saddened for everything that happened. it is an outcome of stupidity in all direction and if ogadenia fighters did not cause all this hoopla( cutting necks), the government troops would have most probably never acted as such.
i think meles can properly address such flaws in the military and straighten up things.
seccesion must be illegal.
the kinijit stupids should be released.
What an indictment! Let me be ahead of time and spell what Berket will say, “This is completely untrue, there is no ONLF, but a bunch of unemployed people trying to stop a rapid development occurring in that region!
Woyane needs the Ethiopian people behind it more than ever and reconciliation is possible.
1. Release all political prisoners immediately with out any conditions whatsoever.
2. Opposition members also should negotiate and perhaps join the parliament and learn give and take and not “my way or the highway” attitude. Politics is all about negotiations
3. Get Assab back by Any Means Necessary. There shall be No peace with Eritrea as long as Assab is occupied and Woyane has to Undo its mistake by forcefully taking over Assab.
4. If Meles Zenawi can not do #3 as he was not willing to do when he won the war in 2000, then someone within TPLF should remove Meles from power and do job #3
5. Fair and Free election for 2010 and Woyane should respect the will of the people and pass on power to the elected . With Amhara and Oromo being 75% of the Ethiopian population, Woyane has no shot at winning the election, so they ought to be happy to represent Tigray at Parlama and all the local administration stuff in Tigray. Or start having kids now and in 18 years, you may increase your population number, there is nothing you can do about that. You are minority and you will be protected but majority has to rule. But then again, democracy for Woyane is like shooting itself on its feet. Man, our country is fucked up.
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