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12/10/07

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Ethiopia - Opposition MPs divided on H.R. 2003

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Ethiopia - Opposition MPs divided on H.R. 2003

By Kirubel Tadesse

Capital

H.R. 2003, Ethiopia Democracy and Accountability Act of 2007, which its supporters claim helps to encourage and facilitate the consolidation of peace and security, respect for human rights, democracy, and economic freedom in Ethiopia, can’t gain the full support of Ethiopian opposition Members of Parliament as it did in the US House of Representatives.

MPs Capital talked to expressed varying positions on the bill, one even saying that it is impractical. Temesgen Zewdie (MP) explained that H.R.2003 is a bill through which American tax payers have expressed their concern for their sisterly nation of Ethiopia. He said that he supported the bill totally and believes that it will be passed by the Senate. “Despite one’s right to support any agenda, those standing in favor of the bill are targets of the government’s propaganda and accusations,” stated Temesgen. He added that continuous accusations and ‘inappropriate name calling’ by the Prime Minster will not make much of a difference to his full support of the bill. Temesgen stated that rather than the view of the Bush administration, it is the Congress that reflects the voice of the American people. He said, “Simply considering the 20 million USD, which is set as a score card, for the things any democratic government should do anyway, we find it very hard not to support the bill.”

Professor Beyene Petros told Capital that conflicts over H.R 2003 are worthless since the bill is hardly to become law. Professor Beyene explained that the bill is yet to find a sponsor in the US Senate and the recent denouncement of the bill by Secretary Rice proves that. “Personally, as an Ethiopian parliamentary member, I don’t feel proud that Ethiopian related issues are discussed in the US as if we are not capable of solving our problems. This shows that we still lack mutual respect and common ground for dialog in order to narrow our differences and solve problems on our own,” said Professor Beyene. He feared that H.R 2003 is just another issue where Ethiopians get in to conflicts taking supporters and opposition roles instead of toning down and listening to each other. Professor Beyene expressed the bill as “something which isn’t practical.”

Lidetu Ayalew (MP) told Capital that the bill in its nature shouldn’t gain the full support or opposition of any Ethiopian since it has useful ideas on one hand and unacceptable proposals on the other. He explained “For us, whether it is supported by the current administration or not is not a key question, the bill has important ideas which the US and other parts of the international community should continue pressuring on the Ethiopian government, but at the same time it contains proposals which will hurt Ethiopia if it becomes law, so we believe that the bill should be carefully studied and corrected before it goes any other step.”

On Oct 2, 2007, H.R 2003 was passed in the US House of Representatives by voice vote and the Senate on Oct 3, 2007 received and referred it to the Committee on Foreign Relations. H.R 2003 is sponsored by a New Jersey Democrat Congressman Donald Payne.

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58 comments

Comment from: Alula yemesker [Visitor]
HR 2003 is a file number, no-more; no-less
It has been trashed, burned, and if any body wants to see it’s remain; it can be found at Aba-Samueal trash disposal station; right above Kalit.
I appreciate and admire Professor Beyen.

Thanks,
12/10/07 @ 14:09
Comment from: Warrior [Visitor]
We will get Mr. Temesgen Zewede change his mind about HR 2003. I know some people who knows him very well. He is a bit confused about the bill although he have read it many time. Aslo he may be scared what CUD people would say to him. The truth is half of the CUD supporters do not support this bill. There is no way we Ethiopian will be Adminstrated by an outside intity or political power. Whether we have problem Meles or Mengistu or HIM. This is internal business and will be delt by ourselves. Only BANDAS will do that. Thank you
12/10/07 @ 15:13
Comment from: geb [Visitor]
HR 2003

I like the bill however Ethiopia is not America for such a bill. Ethiopia has a long way to go before it can implement what’s embedded in the bill. When a country doesn’t have any internal problem, it would be ideal to have the bill in place.

At this point Ethiopians need to clean up all that barks before considering it. The Ethiopian people, (majority) need to have similar views and stand for the same goal as supposed to individual or divided cells trying to strength its own party only.

Why do the Ethiopian people need many divided parties?
For what reason?

Ethiopia is ONE. Especially, during unrest and bad situation, groups that are given the freedom to exercise their rights, as citizens, should not abuse it. Instead, they need to use it properly and make some concrete ideas that cement the Ethiopian people as one nation.

PEACE!!!
12/10/07 @ 15:27
Comment from: Mehmednur [Visitor]

I apreciate Prof.Beyene.
I has deeply true love for his country.
"“Personally, as an Ethiopian parliamentary member, I don’t feel proud that Ethiopian related issues are discussed in the US as if we are not capable of solving our
problems............He feared that H.R 2003 is just another issue where Ethiopians get in to conflicts taking supporters and opposition roles instead of toning down and listening to each other."
12/10/07 @ 15:38
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
Alula yemesker,

indeed H.R 2003 is dead fish. No longer accountable.Yeha
12/10/07 @ 15:58
Comment from: Tibebu [Visitor]
I am one supporter of the opposition that rejects HR2003. This bill is anti-Ethiopia in its all forms. Ethiopians don't need a bill in American congress that dictates how they run their country. It is an insult to a nation that prides itself as a 3000 year old independent country.
12/10/07 @ 16:29
Comment from: Sami [Visitor]
Here we go again Mr. Yeha
What do you want?
For Meles to hold the country hstage and pocket money coming to him for saling the country to China and Other who have interest to use our blood to revange...

It is not fair he has to GO!
12/10/07 @ 17:19
Comment from: shewaju [Visitor]
HR2003,DOESN`T Work in a Country,THAT has never been colonized.
12/10/07 @ 17:49
Comment from: Brooks [Visitor]
I support the Aim/Goal of HR2003. But the technics(LEGISLATURE) used is wrong.Cubans in Miami Used it 4 40 yr's to no avail.Out of more than 200 amendement & Laws congress pased against Cuba none materialized. Relations between States shoulnd't involve Legislation. The art of Poletics is always wins.
12/10/07 @ 18:01
Comment from: soma [Visitor]
TWO USE LESS ETHIOPIANS POLITICIAN WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS.

Even though I have to respect different opinion and ideas from this two different poltical group the idea of these two Ethiopin politicians make me sick.

First they have been involved in Ethiopian politics for years but they have been in effective dubious and coward.

Among the two the pofessor has been the worst and the most unproductive other than keeping his job and acting like obstractionist and symbol of infective and passive old man.

Regarding the the second Keddetu Ayalew as his name is given for being govrenment agent he has lost his sole and direction .He is lokking for left over postion from Woyane Gang.

12/10/07 @ 18:07
Comment from: hulu100 [Visitor]
quastion: whose pushing HR2003 to this stage??
Answer: Ethiopians
Qw: How many are they ?
Ans: 99.5% Ethiopians who lives in USA!
Q: why they support it?
AN: B/c they understand what is democracy is they also teste it and like it
I am one of Proude Ethiopian who support HR
12/10/07 @ 18:11
Comment from: Deder [Visitor]
Please professor if you (MPs) could manage our problems why it suffers the life and development of the nation? Please stop the hypocracy that you covered up your self sice you sign in in the subserviant role of parliament. Ato Ledetu if you are partially ok with the HR2003 then what is the problem of your besses to accept what is stringed with it. Is it because it is from US congress why the Woyane refuse or it 's content? Ato Ledetu it is a good staff for you that makes you "busy" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
12/10/07 @ 18:34
Comment from: Assab Ethiopia [Visitor]
I think Beyene Petros needs a crash course about how the US Congress works.It is different than the woyane Parlama which is the same as TPLF Central committee.We all now can speek in full confidence that about 86 senators expressed their support for HR2003 and it is hust a matter of days before it becomes the law of the land.Even the President has no choice exept to sign it.Melese has an information through his loby firm that the issue is a foregone conclusion and that is why they are scared in Ethiopia.Those killers will be brought to justice starting from the TPLF chairman, Melese Zenawi.The US congress and the government are two separate branchs and Beyene Petros(the so called opposition member)needs to know this before opening his mouth.
12/10/07 @ 19:48
Comment from: ye ethio lij [Visitor]
TO SAMI

u sound like stupid u need to go to school
12/10/07 @ 20:06
Comment from: shaa [Visitor]
:!:Ya, HR is AGAINST the sovernighty of our country.
But the question is 'When and How our country get all free and democratic instituations, Election board, Judiciary system and so on for construction of the non-existant democracy????':?:
This is parable for me!!B)
12/10/07 @ 20:06
Comment from: jas [Visitor]
Could any of the people that oppose this bill elaborate why you oppose it? Take this opportunity to take your own stand, not that of a mouth-piece for a murderous government?

Of course, if you don’t have your own reason or if you never got the chance to read it, you’re entitled to your opinion.

12/10/07 @ 21:00
Comment from: Assab Ethiopia [Visitor]
Yeha and Alula Yimeskir are members of the Agazi killers or they are a Tigray militias living outside their cage,Mekele.
Long live Ethiopia and death to all woyane (banda fascists) members.
Because of Ethiopians effort HR 2003 is almost the law of the land.Criminals will be punished and Yeha and Alula will spend the rest of their life out side Ethiopia.Ethiopians will soon be the owners of their country.Melese and the fascists will pay a price,big time.
12/10/07 @ 22:13
Comment from: ethio [Visitor]


ETHIOPIA TIKDEM.
HR2003 YWUDEM.

Ethiopia does not need a cancer so I sujest Hr2003 suporters please Getlost from Ethiopia We Ethiopian dont need a kkk and sisy like you.we are proud a nationto and we will solve our issiu by our self.

ethiopia tikdem

HR2003 YEWUDEM
12/10/07 @ 22:14
Comment from: K [Visitor]
Like I said in the past article, HR2003 will have no effect on the current regim. It did not help the opposition paries either. It showed us how divided they are. I still believe we can fix our problems if we listen to each other. We can start by discussing common goals with current regim first then work on our differences.
Peace.
K
12/10/07 @ 22:50
Comment from: ethio [Visitor]


SAMI
MELES IS OUR HIRO. MENGSTU IS YOURS.
12/10/07 @ 23:04
Comment from: sultan [Visitor]
First i would like to ask nazret the three guys mentioned above are they really opostion leaders ? and above all the news paper called capital is that a free prees ?

then comes to their comment :

First to the woyane Biology professor beyene petors who recently traveled with the dectator to India said he is confident a discussion with woyane is enough to bring change.

He is a totally a confused proffesro he was in politics for so many years with no contribution to ethiopian democracy.

Of course poor lidetu is expected to make a misteak for lack of understanding the bill and its conseqounces. Or he wants to make bussines out of it like he did before.

In general this two guys opposing the bill is expected becuase the bill makes them also liable for those killings happened in ethiopia.like the dectator they may also forbid to enter america.

they hate the bill as if it is Dr.Brhanue nega who is much better than them and helps them to join the dead parilament. At his bood Dr.Brhanue put their pure character and their intention in ethiopian politics.

If their struggle is realy for democracy and the respect for human rights i dont think they will oppose any bill be it from america or russia a plus for their struglle.

rather they oppose the bill becuse it doesnt get american sanate and bush support.which is totally noncence and expected from a person who wear at least necktie.....

anyway their stupidity has no limit.......
12/10/07 @ 23:15
Comment from: zewditu [Visitor]
I and my freind read the article but not understand what the prefix MP found before beyene and lidetu's name but we gussed contextually from their personality that :
my guss is
M stands for Moron
P stands for person

my freinds guss is
M for mindless
p for person
hope woyane supporter will give us the exact meaning since these two guys are their slaves
and object for the past 16 years.
12/10/07 @ 23:56
Comment from: aba tenna [Visitor]
This a response to Mr.Jas invitation.Any person with an elementary understanding of sovereinity will oppose HR2003. Ethiopia is not one of the states in the United States:it is an independent and self-governing country. With due respect to the U.S. Congress, this legislative body is not empowered to legislate for any other country but the U.S. It can pass any number of bills but none of them will have any effect on the Ethiopian poeople or the government of Ethiopia.So my friend,brace yourself for a major disappointment--it will not gain the support of the Senate and the President is not salivating to sign it any day.
12/11/07 @ 00:35
Comment from: Mahlet [Visitor]
hulu100
what u mean those live in the country not understand what is democracy ? maferia
HR2003 for u and Diaspora too.
12/11/07 @ 00:54
Comment from: leon [Visitor]
beyene petros ,beyene petros

"the 21st century fox"

ledetu? just kidetu!
12/11/07 @ 01:29
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
~This bill is created by the few reckless Diasporas to serve their interests. It’s meaningless to our systems but certainly will hurt the poor people in Ethiopia who’re receiving aids from the U.S. Why should we have to have the U.S telling us how to governor our nation? Isn’t ironic 1} The State Department spoke against it, 2} some in the senates like the honorable senator from Oklahoma {James Inhofe} and the president of the U.S {BUSH} spoke against the bill. This bill is RECYCLED!

~Here is the deal: this bill would satisfy Mesfin, Chris Smith the coward congressman from NJ and his salve puppet congressman Donald Payne from the same state. These people don’t care about Ethiopian and Ethiopia. Their agenda is clear: they want to weaken the fast growing economy and democracy in our nation.

~We can all disagree and argue about Meles/EPRDF past errors however we certain should not allow foreigners attempting to sell us. ”This shows that we still lack mutual respect and common ground for dialog in order to narrow our differences and solve problems on our own,” said Professor Beyene. He feared that H.R 2003 is just another issue where Ethiopians get in to conflicts taking supporters and opposition roles instead of toning down and listening to each other. Professor Beyene expressed the bill as “something which isn’t practical” what more can we say? We should listen to this guy Mr. BEYENE and work together for our people/nation. Uniting our people, prioritizing our nation, respecting each others’ differences is the way to go for all Ethiopians. I wondered how many Eritreans in the Diaspora are fund-raising to get this bill pass in the senates. We’ll know this is some of the tolls they are using to weakening our nation’s economy.
12/11/07 @ 03:51
Comment from: kidest [Visitor]
Capital,,

Please ask Political science proffesor Merara Gudina he will tell us a lot about HR2003 instead of biology proffessor and lalibela tourist guide.

They good for nothing.....
12/11/07 @ 04:06
Comment from: getu [Visitor]
if i get a chance i would like to ask Professor beyene about the nature of parasites.
12/11/07 @ 04:22
Comment from: taye [Visitor]
You stupid guys who created mess in the town and now defend the killer :oops:.

A day will come you be charged collaborating with ethiopians enemy:!:
12/11/07 @ 04:36
Comment from: bethy [Visitor]
Hulu
thank you i am 100% with you.i have a feeling that this bill will pass and iT will become a law.
GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA AND AMERICA!!!!
12/11/07 @ 08:15
Comment from: NegistA [Visitor]
Again HR "tezebet lay yetlal" those who are for HR are not for Ethiopia period!
12/11/07 @ 09:28
Comment from: ehhron [Visitor]
Hulu100: What ? Dont they have school in the usa for you ? Your statistics argument is 100% wrong. ANYWAY I was surprised one of the MP supporter of HR2003 mentioned the 20 million dollar (actually its 40 million dollar in 2 year period) . I bet you most of the opposition leaders and frotline advocates (TRAITORS) of HR2003 want to pocket that money . Thats there primary motive not the ethiopian people interest.
12/11/07 @ 09:46
Comment from: Tsubuk [Visitor]
Where does Prof. beyene Stands? What progress does he made as being loyal to TPLF.The Bill helped the release of political prisoners. Let me ask you Prof. Beyene. You were there since woyane came to power but still law and order is not there and yet you are telling to Ethiopian "This shows that we still lack mutual respect and common ground for dialog in order to narrow our differences and solve problems on our own,” said Professor Beyene Let me tell you Dear professor Being a dog in USA better than a human being in Ethiopia were you are member of woyane parilament. Thanks
12/11/07 @ 09:53
Comment from: woldeyesus [Visitor]
Professor Beyene, I take my hat off to you. The term BANDA need not be redefined only because there is a different ruler sitting in the palace.
12/11/07 @ 10:08
Comment from: ellron [Visitor]
Tsubuk wrote: "Let me tell you Dear professor Being a dog in USA better than a human being in Ethiopia were you are member of woyane parilament. " Hey man you must hate yourself morethan you hate ethiopian leaders to have this kind of twisted desire.

12/11/07 @ 13:52
Comment from: Aklilu [Visitor]
News flash people to solve our own problems amongest ourselves all the parties need to be willing to sit down and discuss which as we have all seen Meles Zenawi and his accomplices are not willing to do. As for the whole idea of not taking orders from another country we are already doing that or why else are we in Somalia and the Meles regime always goes begging with its bowl for budget support and development assistance every other day. All of a sudden when someone comes up with a reasonable and highly appropriate idea like H.R. 2003, we are too proud to accept this noble suggestion? it is sad that we are playing politics while the majority of Ethiopians are suffering from the high cost of living and can barely survive. What we need is leaders that will serve the people not leaders who come into power holding nothing but a gun and all of a sudden become extremely wealthy men.
12/11/07 @ 13:52
Comment from: ethiopian man [Visitor]
HR 2003 is another crap idea, it will soon be taken into a recycle bin with its sponsors. I don think it should be a big concern to us Ethiopians his excellency PM Meles Zenawi clearly gave what its effect could be. The Prime Minister and his cabinet didnt seem to be bothered about it, If USA supports us its good if not what can we do? that was the explanation, USA cant legislate laws to Ethiopia. CUD and other bandas hoped to paralyse our system using the bill as a weapon. That has failed now, USA administration wont accept it. Ethopia's relation with the USA is for the benefit of both states. No one shouldnt see it the other way, USA needs Ethiopia as much as Ethiopia needs USA. This is anothe big blow to the CUD and all the banda's in Eritrea.
12/11/07 @ 14:14
Comment from: balcha [Visitor]
Of course we should not have look for Ameri cans to solve our problems.But it will have at list impact to dig the grave for woyanne In deed we will pass policy by our own when we try to respect,listen or coperate each other.YOU KNOW WHY LEADERS OF WOYANNE AND IT CELLS(MR.PETROS AND KIDETU) SCARE OF THIS THIS BILL. THEY WILL LOSE THE JOB AND WOYANE LEADER WILL BE CHARGED BY INTERNATIONAL COU RT LIKE MILOSOVICH AND CHARLES TAYLOR. ONE MORE THING I DONT SURPRISED BY MR. WOYAN NNE AND MS. WOYANNE. YOU KNOW WHY? yOU kNOW WHY? THERE WERE ETHIOPIAN SUPPORTING ITALIAN INV ASION. THE TRUTH IS COMING LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA
12/11/07 @ 14:30
Comment from: AGB [Visitor]
The American people through their representatives have the right to control the fund they are releasing which is deducted from their income, to make sure that this fund is properly utilized for the benefit of the people through a democratic and good governance.
So why should we oppose this law ?
It is their own right.
Please let us not bark like Woyane.
Let us be sensible and show our support for the releif of the Ethiopian people from these Hynas !
12/11/07 @ 15:10
Comment from: jas [Visitor]
aba tenna,
Please calm down and try to point out anything from the bill that supports your claims from you last comment. Just spilling out what others say about it lacking any level of understanding (most without even reading the bill) doesn’t show your intelligence but an overzealous eagerness to please others.

Z-Mike
Yoga will be great for your anger. As most that oppose the bill, you seem to add your imagination about this bill. If you did read the bill, argue your point with some evidence backing it such as where does the bill say “aid to the poor will be stopped.” If you’re just expressing the message of others as a loyalist to EPRDF, even then it will give you some credibility if you actually read the bill. So which one are you?

If you did read the bill and disagree or agree, please state what in the bill makes you take the side you took? Otherwise, for all you sound like you could be just a robot replaying what is recorded.

www.ethiopiansvoice.com



12/11/07 @ 15:19
Comment from: Hodamu Beyene [Visitor]


ስለ አቶ ልደቱ ሌባነት እና ቅጥረኛነት የማያውቅ ስለሌለ ሊደንቀን አይገባም

ስለ አቶ በየነ አቃጣሪነት እና ሖዳምነት የማያውቅ የለም ስለሆነም ሊደንቀን አይገባም

ልደቱ በመሐይምነቱ
በየነ በሆዳምነቱ ከፍተኛ ጉዳት እያደረሱብን ነው

አቶ በየነ አንተ ብሎ ደሞ ዶ/ር
ዱርየ የእንጨት ሽበት ነህ
12/11/07 @ 16:29
Comment from: Tewodros [Visitor]
If anybody full around the wife of Pr Minister Meles and another ordnary Ethiopian, do we need two bills or only one ? everybody must be treated according to one and the same bill. why do we need a bill for the wife of meles and why do we need another bill for the rest people. we all human right ? then what are you talking about guys, I realy dont get it guys ? >
12/11/07 @ 18:22
Comment from: hulu100 [Visitor]
95.5% ethiopians in america supports HR
(0.5%= hodame, gerayegebawe, or melese
friend's and family)
i got this information at CIA fact book.
12/11/07 @ 18:35
Comment from: Hodamu Beyene [Visitor]
The term opostions leaders cannot be applied for Ato Beyene Petros and Lidetu Ayalew.
.
Ato Beyene is a woyane puppet and Lidetu an opportunist. Bothe animals are the scoria of our generation. Having said that I want to outline to points regarding to the bill:

1). American tax payers always have the right to ask where their money go and to whom and to what purpose is serving. The bill is about accountability, if the government respects the elementary principles of democratic rights and work to promote democratic institutions then nothing to worry about the bill.

2) The bill can be considered as an incentive to promote democratic institutions and develop the ethics of good governance. The government and its puppets are concerned about the bill because democracy is not their language; what ever sounds human rights leave them nervous, frustrate them, intimidate them, or even kills them. The fact is Woyane is born not to serve and to be useful, for any purpose similar to the bill. .


12/11/07 @ 20:39
Comment from: Hodamu Beyene [Visitor]
TAKE A NOTE AND SEE WHAT IT MEANS THE RULE OF LAW.


LIMA, Peru (AP) -- A Peruvian Supreme Court judge convicted former President Alberto Fujimori of abuse of authority and sentenced him to six years in prison Tuesday in the first criminal conviction for Fujimori, who also faces human rights and corruption charges.


A police officer stands guard Monday near the site of Alberto Fujimori's trial in Lima.

Supreme Court Justice Pedro Guillermo Urbina declared Fujimori guilty of abusing his power for ordering an illegal search as his government imploded in scandal seven years ago. He also fined Fujimori the equivalent of $134,900.

The former president was convicted of having a military aide pose as a prosecutor and search without a warrant the luxury apartment of the wife of his spy chief Vladimiro Montesinos in November 2000.

It was the first prison sentence handed down for Fujimori, 69, who ruled Peru from 1990 to 2000, before fleeing to Japan, his ancestral homeland, as his government collapsed. He faces three other trials on charges that include murder, kidnapping and corruption.

Fujimori showed little emotion during the hearing. After the sentence was read, he consulted quickly with his defense lawyer and then addressed the judge, saying he was appealing "partially" the sentence and the fine. He did not elaborate.

His daughter Keiko, a congresswoman for his party, attacked the ruling as she left the courtroom.

"This is really an unfair sentence," she said. "Before, it was a political persecution. Now it's a judicial persecution. Like 90 percent of the Peruvian people, I don't trust the judicial system."

On Monday, an indignant Fujimori shouted his innocence and waved his arms in outrage as he went on trial in a separate case on charges he authorized an army death squad to kill leftist rebels and collaborators. He faces up to 30 years in prison if convicted for his alleged role in the killings, which came amid a government crackdown on a bloody Maoist insurgency.

"I received a country ... almost in collapse, exhausted by hyperinflation, international financial isolation and widespread terrorism," he said, his voice cracking with emotion.

"My government rescued the human rights of 25 million Peruvians with no exceptions. If any detestable acts were committed, I condemn them, but they were not done on my orders. I reject the charges totally. I am innocent and do not accept the prosecutor's accusation," he shouted angrily as the head of the three-judge panel called him to order.

The trial on the charge of abuse of authority was conducted in closed hearings before a single judge because it involved a minor charge. The trials are taking take place at the police base on the eastern outskirts of Lima where Fujimori is being held.

The search of the apartment of Montesinos' wife was conducted without a court order. Fujimori admitted ordering one of his military aides, an army officer, to pass himself off as a prosecutor during the search. All searches in Peru require a court order and the presence of a prosecutor.

Fujimori justified his action by saying it was part of a nationwide manhunt for Montesinos after Switzerland accused him of money laundering.

The prosecution had sought a sentence of seven years, but Fujimori's defense lawyer Cesar Nakazaki had asked the court for a reduced sentence of four years, arguing that Fujimori was not the one who committed the crime but was simply the "instigator." Judges normally suspend sentences of four years or less.

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At the time of the search, only days before Fujimori fled Peru, the Interior Ministry said plainclothes police had seized some 40 suitcases and 40 boxes filled with videos, books and documents from the apartment of Montesinos' wife, Trinidad Becerra.

Several days later Fujimori called reporters to the Government Palace and showed them seven watches and two heavy gold chains, which he said were worth about $1 million. He said they had been seized during the search of Becerra's apartment.

Prosecutors said they suspected Fujimori was seeking evidence that might have implicated him in Montesinos' illegal activities, but he denied that.

After his trial for murder and kidnapping, Fujimori will have two more trials. In one he faces charges of illegally paying $15 million in state funds to Montesinos, now jailed and accused of dozens of crimes, to get him leave his post. In a fourth trial, he faces charges of bribing opposition congressmen, illegal wire tapping and misuse of state funds to buy a television station to support his re-election campaign.

Fujimori has said he is innocent of those charges.

He was extradited in September to Peru from Chile. He had flown there in 2005, taking Peruvian authorities by surprise, in the hope he would be extradited on minor charges, but the charges approved by Chile's Supreme Court included accusations of human rights violations. E-mail to a friend

12/11/07 @ 20:45
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Mr. like you.
And, I'm taking the Mr. from out in front of your name,
'cause it's a Mr. like you that puts the rest of us to shame.
It's a Mr. like you that puts the rest of us to shame.

And I've seen enough,
Oh - I've seen enough,
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

Excuse me Mr.
Can't you see the children dying?
You say that you can't help them,
Mr. you're not even trying.
Excuse me Mr.
Just take a look around.
Oh, Mr. just look up and you will,
You'll see it's coming down.
Oh, excuse me Mr. but I'm, I'm a mister too.
And you're givin' Mr. a bad name,
Mr. like you.
So, I'm taking the Mr. from out in front of your name,
'cause it's a Mr. like you that puts the rest of us to shame.
it's a Mr. like you, puts the rest of us to shame.

And I've seen enough,
I've seen en..., I've seen en...,
I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.
I've seen enough,
Oh - I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

'cause Mr. when you're rattling on heaven's gate.
By then it is too late.
'cause Mr. when you get there,
They don't ask what you saved.
All they'll want to know Mr. is what you gave.
So, excuse me Mr.
But I'm a mister too.
And you're givin' Mr. a bad name,
Mr. like... you.

So, I'm taking the Mr. from out in front of your name,
'cause it's a Mr. like you puts the rest of us to shame.
Mr. like you, puts the rest of us to shame.
Oh...
...shame.
12/11/07 @ 22:14
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
JAS, WELCOME TO nazret.com!
Or whatever your previous user name was: you need to pull your blind head out of your dark rear because you can’t see sh*t in there! You need a wake-up call and educate yourself from lecturing others.

It does not take a scientist to figure out the outcome of the bill if it were to be passed. As I stated before the BILL WILL ONLY HURT THE POOR IN ETHIOPIAN NOT THE GOV’T since you’re so naïve here is the realty for you.

You asked the stupidest question, if whether or not I read it…I don’t think that is the prime issue here. The issues is, there are some people like you who are becoming #1 public enemy for our nation/people and we’ll not allow you to get a chance to destroy our well and sprite. We’ll stand firmly and reject you along with Chris Smith, Donald Payne and MESFIN…

1} if the bill becomes into law {which it won’t} Ethiopian gov’t won’t accept it… So what is the U.S going to do? How the U.S continue if Ethiopian gov’t turns to China and Russian for military assistances? Do you reality want to satisfy Eritreans and starve our people?

2} how is your party X-DERG current CUDIEST going to gain power if you are in the Diaspora crying foul everyday why the gov’t is strengthening the education, economy and finally starting to listen the public? When will you catch on to it? Ethiopians are sick and tried of your garbage propaganda.

3} do you realty think CUD will have a chance in the next election to win if they stay in DC and Europe working to weaken our economy? They are hoping to unite with ONLF and take up arms against Ethiopia alongside with SHAEBIANS…

4} if CUD realty wants to gain popularity in Ethiopian why are you and all the puppets doing in WASHINGTON? The answer is to beg for money because your fat as needs to survive with the western burger kind {which now known murder king faster food chain…

5} do you realty think MESFIN will ever walk on the street of ADDIS ABABA? The answer is of course not…

It’s clear how desparte you guys are thus for power. You got to earn it from the people you crack-head. You will realize that when your cash flow starts to run low and your puppets start to say you’re a true liar {we’re against you) little jogging might be helpful to you to get little thinners so when the cash flow is running out law you will be able to find yours self with a $5 value meal at Taco Bell! Of course you also will need to train your fatty ass to drink some water instead of coffee because when you don’t have the cash, you certainly don’t want to start caring sayings that will read “HOMELESS” anything will help!

I am out!
12/11/07 @ 23:01
Comment from: wolde [Visitor]
Did temesgen forget that he is paid by the poor Ethiopian tax payers? Please, let him go to the USA and join his Bandas friends. It is shame for him to support a bill which is against his own countrys interest. This bill is sponsored by the enemies of Ethiopia, like Shaebia, ONLF, Donald P, Chris, shovinist and Radical CUD, etc.. Any one who love Ethiopia should oppose this bill. The bill is not about democracy pr it doesn't bring any positive results. This bill is intended to disintigrate Ethiopia in the name of Democracy. This is a strategy designed by foreign country together with anti Ethiopian forces, including some Bandas from our own soil. No matter what kind of government we have, it is a high time for us Ethiopians to stand together and oppose this bill .Opposing the bill is by far better than standing together with Shaebia and ONLF, who are the number one enemies of our land and people. We should know, American politics is about money. The more money you have the greater chance you can by politics in this country. Poor Africans in the name of freedom fighters or opposition, invest their money to rich American congress or senators to sell their own country. Please, we Ethiopians "lib yalew lib yebel, betachenen anafresew." It is better for us to find solutions by our own, without the interference of foreign "agents". I hate to be guided by foreigners! Mote yeshalal le nech kemagobded!

Long Live Ethiopia
12/11/07 @ 23:01
Comment from: shawn [Visitor]
HR2003 who support Ethiopian who lives in USA that is not for Ethiopia.Ethiopia PM Meles will make the HR2003 for Ethiopia. WE Ethiopian love Meles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12/12/07 @ 00:53
Comment from: stampeed [Visitor]
the bandas are scared becuase they have no place to spend the money they stole and deposited in foregn banks - they are running in circles - HR2007 will pass the Senate -we need to know how america runs its foreitne policy - there is always an understanding between the government an congress - America and the world is tired of dictators and tyrant such as Meles - as the head of the masacre he is the most wanted individual and he knows it - God bless the people!!
12/12/07 @ 01:17
Comment from: stampeed [Visitor]
those that are against the bill - either thay have not read it or if they did have not understood it - or they are melese roborts just like he has the agazi to kill he has also prepared his kind to write nonsense
12/12/07 @ 01:21
Comment from: Mesfin- Ethiopia for Ethiopian Viva Beyene [Visitor]
quastion: whose pushing HR2003 to this stage??
Answer: Wanted criminal Ethiopian confused oby Shabiyans and colonialists
Qw: How many are they ?
Ans: 1 individual who lives luxury life and c in USA and confused others not to think about the inside of the bill!
Q: why they support it?
AN: B/c they they want to make money and to joke on ethiopian soverenghty.
I am one of Proude in Ethiopian independece by opposing the "bill"
12/12/07 @ 03:46
Comment from: gergud [Visitor]
hulu you say that 95%5 ethio in usa support hr2003 that you get @cia fact book .you lier ....may be you got it from your master shaebya mouse fact. i think that is the trueth nothing but the truth
12/12/07 @ 15:00
Comment from: jas [Visitor]
Z-Mike,

Rushing to insult people that don’t agree with you is the nature of people that are blinded by ignorance. In addition, it seems to throw you off and make your statements sound like they were written by either a child or a drunk.

You said
“You asked the stupidest question, if whether or not I read it…I don’t think that is the prime issue here.”
Wow, so you don’t even have a clue what we’re talking about. Please read the bill and point out what it is you disagree about. That would show you’re making an informed choice. Or, you’ve the right to blindly decide and I still think you’re qualified to be an Ethiopian.

You said
“if the bill becomes into law {which it won’t} Ethiopian gov’t won’t accept it… So what is the U.S going to do?”
You see, if you read the bill, you wouldn’t be asking such questions.

Of course, you think those that disagree with you should go to hell. That is what dictators do, if you’re aware of what’s happening around you. Please use up some of the brain given to you by your Creator and make your own decision.

The rest of the garbage you wrote, not even you would understand it. Relax! It is not the end of the world.


www.ethiopiansvoice.com
12/12/07 @ 15:57
Comment from: Anon... [Visitor]
Re: MP Ato Temesgen
The sponsors of HR2003 will persue for the entire bill to pass. Be persistent and finaly may be negotiate. His position might belong to that group.

Re: MP Dr. Beyene Petros
One of the provisions of the bill is for opposition and the regime to to communicate in an agreeable and peaceful channel. As it is the profile of the opposition that specially sponsored the bill does not look good as it is divided in factions. So that may not be realistic, althogh a nobel idea.

Re:MP Ato Lidetu Ayalew
In the end, my prediction is similar. The bill could pass as it is also a symolic bill for Ethiopian Americans, and specially if Human Right violation is not reduced in Ethiopia. All of the proposal may not make it as a final law. Most definately three of the bills could be too controvesial to make them laws for Ethiopia.

The closest truth could be the one from MP Ato Lidetu.
12/13/07 @ 00:52
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
Jas,

How much and how bad does it hurt when you are challenged with your lies? Be cool and relax instead of attempting to advertise your shaebian funded site. Is your uncle Mengisu assisting you financially? Can you read comments and comprehend easly? If you can, here is the fact for you: H.R.2003 is simply attempting to tell Ethiopia how to administer its constitution…Ethiopia is a sovereign nation that has good system in place. What we need is to work side-by-side to left our nation’s economy. Why are you looking backward? What is your notion been a puppet to serve our enemies for little cash. Why can’t you work and bring an income from daytime job?

I am realizing more how ignorant you truly are but… how do you feel when Ethiopia’s economy is destroyed because of this bill? Here is something for you to think about and comeback to your sense. When Ethiopia says no to all the demands on the bill what is CUD and the U.S going to gain out of it? When Ethiopia cuts diplomatic ties with the U.S., how is the U.S going to assist the poor? No gov’t in the world will keep their diplomatic doors open when their officials are band from entering the U.S.

Again if you use your brain slightly and have any clues about politics you should start studying politic-101… No nation in this world will dare to work with the U.S when/if the U.S is placing restrictions on their officials. If the U.S denies visa to gov’t officials that country would do the same by denying U.S officials from visiting and operating inside the nation. Therefore, there won’t be any aid going towards to the poor. You kept asking where in the bill does it say the poor will be hurt the most… Well, you are again an idiot, other wise you don’t need me to explain to you. It’s in back and white. When the relation of the to sisterly nation falls apart there is no aids or anything in that nature. Just know you will age while you’re out there begging in the west. Don’t worry, Ethiopia will do just fine and your dream will soon be crushed. There is no support in the senates to pass the bill. Just read what the State Department having been saying about the bill…Ask yourself one question: if the bill is good for Ethiopia, where are some many Ethiopians voicing against the bill? I know I am communicating with a coward brainless sellout habesha.
12/13/07 @ 03:14
Comment from: Gelmokurra [Visitor]
Ethiopia - Opposition MPs divided on H.R. 2003 12/10/07
Ladies and gentlemen of Ethiopia,

I have always wondered about the Dr. Beyene Petr's' loyalties to the cause of Ethiopia. Please consider the following points:

Unlike other University professors Beyene has managed not to be fired, from his professorial position when almost all other professors of the University were fired unceremoniously.

He has never been imprisoned by this regime.

In the last confrontation CUD members were sent to jail due to the confrontation with Woyane and Beyene chose to join the parliament and was not imprisoned

CUD and other political parties tolerate him,don' say anything about him because he is a representative of a very small oppressed minority and afraid they will be called names for attacking him.

As far as I am concerned and the saying goes "All roads lead to Rome" and all evidences I have considered and whether I am politically correct or not I think Beyene is a member or a supporter of the Woyane group and should come out of the closet.
Mamush
12/13/07 @ 18:34
Comment from: Tadias [Visitor]
100% - 95.5% = 4.5%, not 0.5%

Benegerachin lay, i am among that 4.5%; good for me, i like my country. And anybody with a wee bit of understanding of US politics would be against it too. Aydelem silegna silerasachew hizb inquan aychenekum. Do give yourself and your fellow Ethiopians some credit and some respect.
12/14/07 @ 13:30

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