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12/13/07

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Ethiopia Eritrea - A bitter old row shows no sign of fading

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Ethiopia - Eritrea
Bad words over Badme


Dec 13th 2007 | NAIROBI
From The Economist print edition


A bitter old row shows no sign of fading

“SHOULD Eritrea launch another war, we will make certain it will never ever dream of entertaining or thinking about war again.” So said Ethiopia's prime minister, Meles Zenawi, in a recent speech to Parliament. His country did not seek war, he stressed. But if Eritrea launched a “suicidal” attack, it would be driven into the sea.

Eritrea has heard it before. Ethiopia tried to drive it into the sea at Massawa between 1998 and 2000, and failed. Instead, 70,000 on both sides died in trench warfare; a stalemate led to a truce. This time Mr Zenawi's belligerence comes as the Eritrea-Ethiopia Border Commission wound up business this month, with no agreed demarcation. In 2002 it awarded the disputed village of Badme to Eritrea. Ethiopia rejected the verdict, and has since used diplomatic verbiage to obfuscate and stall.

Eritrea naturally took the commission at its word but under its authoritarian president, Issaias Afwerki, has alienated just about every sympathiser. As his rule has become harsher and more erratic, the border issue has loomed larger in Eritrea's national psyche. Mr Afwerki may disgust his compatriots by torturing and imprisoning his critics. But he knows Eritreans will back him over Badme.

The border is more militarised than ever. According to the International Crisis Group, a think-tank, Eritrea has 4,000 troops inside a supposedly demilitarised buffer zone and a further 120,000 dug in along its side of the craggy border that is 1,000km (621 miles) long. On its side, Ethiopia has 100,000 troops.

A UN monitoring force is meant to pack up next month but may stay on. The tension gives both countries an excuse to spend more on guns and spies, some to be turned on domestic enemies. Neither country can afford such things. Ethiopia, at least 75m-strong, is bogged down in Somalia and fighting separatists in the Ogaden desert; Mr Zenawi says he is putting Ethiopia's defence budget up by 17% to $390m. Eritrea, with only 5m people, simply cannot keep up.

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92 comments

Comment from: Bulbula Hagos [Visitor]
peace to all
12/13/07 @ 13:47
Comment from: alula [Visitor]
ethiopia will win the war. bravo melesw
12/13/07 @ 13:57
Comment from: Death to Weyane [Visitor]
"Eritrea has heard it before. Ethiopia tried to drive it into the sea at Massawa between 1998 and 2000, and failed. Instead, 70,000 on both sides died in trench warfare; a stalemate led to a truce." If the war break out again it will be the same, Eritrean army will defeat the Weyane janda within days. Massawa and Asseb will be the dream of Weyane and its supporters. In the last war Weyane try to controlled Assab but didn't move a single km inside. What a brave Eritrean army!
12/13/07 @ 14:18
Comment from: Tig-marino [Visitor]
That is full of crap. Ethiopia never tried to drive the Eritrean army into the sea. The war with in the Ethiopian prespective had only one objective, that is to turn the situation into the status quo ante. Mr. Economist, getr your facts straight. Your intellectual and journalistic integrity is at stake.
12/13/07 @ 14:39
Comment from: Awget [Visitor]
What criminal Meles is trying to preach to his fellow thugs, will be the other way around,Eritrea will be victorius as usual.
stick around
12/13/07 @ 14:54
Comment from: Filmon [Visitor]
alula there are no winners in WAR, & ethio is occupied in Smoli fight insurgents & has a smaller army then Eri so I don't think so. It is funny how ppl from either side talk all this crap that is easily said when you are not the one on the front line. I on the other hand would be willing to fight for my Eritrea to the death if it was necessary, however I feel this border dispute is a ploy. Unity to the horn not another war!!
12/13/07 @ 14:54
Comment from: metene [Visitor]
Ethiopian wanted to drive Ert into the sea...I am so ashamed of the economists who became openly subjective.
12/13/07 @ 15:08
Comment from: jelalaw [Visitor]
If the war started even Hailu Shawel will fight with his bloody blind eye, and then Mele will rule another 30 years. Adios Kinjit, Adios OLF, Adios Diaspora...
12/13/07 @ 15:26
Comment from: Yaleb [Visitor]
“Eritrea has heard it before”?
Never in million years, you morons!

To remind you, it was Issayas who constantly boasted to his Arab paymasters that he will march in Addis Ababa in two weeks time!!

The Eritrean independence has been approved by the same PM you are quoting- although I can understand why he went that far to satisfy both the international community-bar USA, and the anti Ethiopian Arab communities. It is sad to hear from a reporter, seemingly from a respected magazine like The Economist, to hear such an absurd rhetoric. Forget history. that is not for journalists. Did you ever hear anything said by an Ethiopian official against Eritrea until the later started to bomb schools and villages and wage unprovoked war against their own brethren south of the border?

A journalist can be bought and sold like slaves this days, but that doesn’t make whatever written in a hostile mass media is a trustworthy analysis on that or this subject. Yes, you can disseminate lies all over the world about Ethiopia; but I don’t think Gobles’s calculation works for you like it didn’t work during the world war.-“Truth is a repeat of lies”? To be honest, and I hope you will pardon me, Journalism is the second soulless profession, if not the main, after the old one…you know what I mean!

My advice to the reporter from Economist is that, read my county’s history before coming to a……. blind conclusion that Ethiopia is the aggressor or the war- monger; we have always been a victim of Fascism, their servants and apologists. Ethiopia is a country with so many nationalities and many religions, Christianity, Islam paganism, living in harmony practically since the inception of these faiths………. read the Koran and read the Bible.

The problem between Ethiopia and that of (artificially created by the Italian Fascists) Eritrea, is not that God damn piece of land called Badme. The problem is a power struggle between two individuals who at a certain time were not only allies, but genetically 99% related cousins.

For Issayas it is obvious he regretted his decision to become the chieftain of his impoverished clan in Eritrea rather than becoming the President of that Great nation. Instead his ‘inferior’ cousin became the leader of Ethiopia and starts to become one of the favorites among African leaders.

For a Western and Mideast Journalist t it is obvious that it all seems insignificant. The only aim is how to demonize Ethiopia by all means provided you get paid for that. Go to BBC…… although predominantly a Jewish bureaucracy…. and given my country’s historical relation with that race, it is still the centre of Anti- Ethiopian propaganda. I’m still unsure what Jonathan Dimblbey’s contribution was during or after our last monarchy……simply a making of money out of one’s misery?

I’m not usually an advocate of emotional writings, as the Chinese say “never write a letter when you are angry” but your constant anti-Ethiopian hysteria is blown out of proportion and I have to reply in my own way.

As that famous English woman, Silvia Pankhrust, once said “Hands off Ethiopia”!
12/13/07 @ 15:29
Comment from: safu [Visitor]
Whiteman is a hooligan and do not expect good from him.


Peace
12/13/07 @ 15:32
Comment from: ERITRAWI [Visitor]
Ethiopia has made enimies for herself in the region......Poor somali civilians are being massacred in the name of terrorism.......Ethiopia is landlocked i wonder wheer they will get port access if little djibouti starts to act up on her......the end is near for Ethiopia.
12/13/07 @ 15:38
Comment from: ETHIOPIAN [Visitor]
Ethiopia is going to win:!:
12/13/07 @ 15:41
Comment from: Yager Lig [Visitor]
Eritrea will never win again, thanks to PM Zenawi, he has shown us if we put all of you on one side, i.e. remove those who make their money in Ethiopia and send part of their earning and intelligence back to Eritrea, we can keep you cornered. The only way out for you guys is sucide, and for that you should be considered terrorists.

You want to drag us down with you, not any more, we rather keep you at a distance and if you try to do any harm give you some good spanking, that is how you handle a thug.

When it comes to Eritrea, Meles has been their nightmare, he knows their tactic and psyche, he is here to stay and you have no way out of your dry corner, stay where you are or face some good old spanking.
Cheers!
12/13/07 @ 15:48
Comment from: Tokuma Girma [Visitor]
** ERITERIA A FORCED LABOR ECONOMY APPROCHING TO CRUMBLE **

** ETHIOPIA AN EMERGING ECONOMY FROM THE ASHES OF POVERTY **

I know the above title has nothing to do with the looming war but I assume the war drums
are just to disguise other problems and above all this article is from the economist


“The problem is with both leaders, the problem is with the leadership”

All these “bura-kereyeu”, “akaike-zerafe” and “yazugne-lekakeunge”, shouldn’t be at the expenses of their citizens. Will these leaders whom they claim they stand for the well-being of their people, re-examine the catastrophic consequences of any war, just for the dusty, barren and useless land called bademe. If you think there is a pride by doing so, you are dead wrong. A pride shouldn’t include war, to these the poor of the poorest countries in the world. A pride should come from building dams, roads, waters supply and agricultural projects, by which your citizens are paid to work in not by mass communistic movement like free, work labor of the military concentration camp.

A pride should come from a free and fair market driven economy not by command control and forced labor. A pride should come by establishing a democratic process not by tyranny and absolute dictatorship. Listen leaders you are only for the next so and so years. Please don’t leave a history like that of Mengistu or even HaileSelase.

Just to kick some nerves the government of Eriteria is nothing but a useless terrorist, that doesn’t know where in the world should it, stand. It is not complementing or endorsing the rulers at arat-kilo, by far, except few corks they are doing just about right. If they can avert this war and have a solution peacefully, as is always the case you are going to have my vote.

Mr. Meles do you know you have hundreds if not thousands of silent supporters, which share your economic vision, and are always ready to hear the news of a mega infrastructure projects. Please Mr. Meles give to Mr. Isayas Bademe and see he wouldn’t last a night with out drumming a war. I said this because we lost the case of Asseb and,
I don’t think bademe is as important as a port or I can’t compare it to 1/100 of a piece of land in Illubabor or the fertile awash valley or the lands we plant roses along the road to shashemane.

However; I disagree in some of the details, Mr. Meles you are the economic leader of my choice. Please be tough on corruption and revise strongly the federal system to reflect more ethiopian-ism with this, changes you promise, with these changes you implement and to spice up that with some democratic reforms. In doing this let me tell you, unless you walk away, we need you, you must lead this country to a better future.


May GOD help to stop this war
12/13/07 @ 16:33
Comment from: Atlantic [Visitor]
It is funny how quickly we forget!
Some here boost that Eritrea won the last war!

But it was the Ethiopian Army who captured the major Eritrean cities of Barentu and Senafe and was marching toward the outskirt of Asmara when Eritrean Regime agreed to sign the peace treaty.

Look during WWII the Japanese army signs the peace treaty before the allied forces captured Tokyo that does not make the Japanese the winners of WWII.

It is shame!
Only seven years now some already started to rewrite the history of the last war!!!
12/13/07 @ 17:18
Comment from: Atlantic [Visitor]
Here is a good quote from "our beloved leader" from the north…

"The sun will rise from the west before the Ethiopia capture Badme!"
Essayas Afewerki!
12/13/07 @ 17:35
Comment from: Gudfela [Visitor]
ERITRAWI

"Ethiopia is landlocked i wonder where they will get port access if little djibouti starts to act up......the end is near for Ethiopia."

I for once absolutely agree with you. Thanks to Woyane all sorts of evils could happen to Ethiopia while they are controling the country and selling its interest piece by piece. Had it not been for Meles Zenawi...Shaebia would have been history by now and assab restored back to where it belongs.
12/13/07 @ 17:41
Comment from: Abbi [Visitor]
I don't think Shaibia need to start a war,The TPLF army is being hunted from within Ethiopia and Somalia and the the TPLF are dropping as we speak.

Unfortunately, Meles will be pushed by the west to go to war with Shaibia and the Ethiopians are to march to Addis from four sides.
12/13/07 @ 17:55
Comment from: eritrean guest [Visitor]
It seems very odd that recently the media has started to back off Eritrea's back, they are not so anti-Eritrea as they use to be. Now it seems Ethiopia's getting bad press. I have a general distrust of western media when it comes to their independence. These recent articles on these countries seem to try to instigate and add fuel to the fire.They are just rehashing the same old information just changing the titles and changing sides..They are useless..We, Africans, need to learn to look at our political problems and come up with our own analysis and solutions,not waiting to be fed opinions of "experts" "analysts"etc..These western powers will never truly understand the motivations and beliefs of us Africans, so their analysis often becomes a reflection of Western views and Western attitudes.
12/13/07 @ 18:18
Comment from: mesay [Visitor]
Ethiopians did not fail to push wediafom to sea but his cousin-Meles-helped him by stopping the war prematurely. Ethiopia never fails unless we fail her and We wont!!!!!!!!!
12/13/07 @ 18:34
Comment from: Deder [Visitor]
Meles the blood addict stop boasting. No one predict war leave alone you the one who did not trigger a single time. I can say you only used your fingers for cigareets holding. Everyone tell only your tangue karate but not about war. May be your counter part erytrean.
12/13/07 @ 18:37
Comment from: milaboy [Visitor]
you all know we ethiopian dont like war be we never give up if some one wants to thouch our country. that is what meles is talking about. we all have to be in our great leadear meles. otherwise the eretraens will try to use our weakness. that is what happning today!
12/13/07 @ 19:04
Comment from: Abyssinia [Visitor]
Ethiopia is bogged down in Somalia?????
Cracker,please.
Ethiopian can kick Somali,Eritrea and anyother foe all at once.
In case you forget Bush is the one that is bogged down in Iraq.
12/13/07 @ 21:36
Comment from: soma [Visitor]
WHAT WILL HISTORY SAY ABOUT WOYANE AND SHABIA


At one time in ethiopian history during our life time erteians and tigrians were boasting the leaders of ethiopian were bad and unable to lead the nation.

They were shading their crokodile tears and hypnotizing the student struggle to their advantage.

They divided they diverted the democratic struggle kept their detractive war.

Fainaly for the last 16 yrs we saw them how evil,decitful,corrupt and ruthless they are.

LET LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES
12/13/07 @ 21:52
Comment from: Daniel [Visitor]
The Economist magazine has consistently been anti Ethiopian. The Economist had been pro shabia before Eritrea was separated,and it is pro shabia after secession of Eritrea. Ethiopia has never said, that it will throw the Eritreans out into the sea. That kind of talk comes from Shabia and its partner, the Economist. As for Ethiopian ability to beat Eritrean army. Read the BBC article on "Focus on Africa" magazine published in 2000. The title of the article is "Beaten up Eritrea licks its wounds" In the year 2000 war, Ethiopia was able to occupy 25% of Eritrean land in just 2 weeks time and it was only 50 miles from Asmara. President Clinton who was pro Shabia, thretened to bring American air force and prevent Ethiopian airforce from flying to Eritrea. This means US airfoce was to carry out a no fly zone over Eritrea by Ethiopian Airforce. We could have finished that war had it not been for the involvement of the US government. Guys you have to know, that this so called respected medias are out there, to promote the interest and mission of their cuntries. Medias of colonisers are out there to manipulate the minds of different societies in order to retain their hegemonic benefits. The good thing is that, today many people around the world understand, which nations are trying to benefit by creating religious, cultural, tribal and national conflicts. I think it is time for those colonising nations to understand, that it is better to prosper by hard work like the Asians are doing. The Economist is the mouth piece of that colonising sprit. The problem between Eritrea and Ethiopia is problem of colonisers created by the Italians and the British.
12/13/07 @ 22:00
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
Let us be UNITED Ethiopians. This is the time for all Ethiopians to stand firm and united for our nation… the survival of SHAEBIANS is nearing and we’ll certainly complete our duty 100% this time around.

The reality is that when Ethiopia bombs ASMARA and kill Issa-ASS the entire Horn of Africa will be in peace. Here is what happened in the last war. We kicked SHAEBIAN asses in the ground and from the air… on May of 2000, Ethiopian air crafts bomb the hell out of ASMARA airport and Eritrean officials start crying foul on Ethiopia using excuses that Ethiopia was bombing civilians when it destroy the shaebian military airport. The problem of course is Shaebians always talk but they cannot back it. On the ground, Ethiopian troops advanced on ASMARA after they took full control of TSORENA, ADI KEYAHLA. Our brave soldiers were about 70km (35miles) outside ASMARA and MELES stopped our troops from finishing up the job. Eritrea on the other hand claimed that it pulled its troops back because it did not want admit lost... I don’t blame them for that, so they always act the victorious and they cannot mentally accept the losses they faced. Thousand of Eritrean troops where on the run and many were wounded or killed during the fight. So, I say lets get over with this stupid word of war and get rid of the terrors in ASMARA.

Sooner or later the UN needs to pack-up and get the hell out of there. We don’t need UN to police our border. Ethiopia is not concern about Eritrea and its time to say bye-bye to Issa-ASS his thugs and the OLNF + UIC terrors that are operating in ASMARA. Those of you who are dreaming somehow Eritrea will survive the next war you need to have a better dream. We know the reality… Eritreans always talks tough without any backing. The only reason Ethiopia did not drive out Shaebians out of ASMARA was because MELES thought it was not wise idea for our troops to capture ASMARA and dumb the thugs to the red sea. His mistake has become huge obstacles for us to and its time to act now. There will be no more starting and stopping war against Eritrea. Ethiopia will not only drive SHAEBIANS to MASSAWA but we are going to dumb them in the open sea and feed them to the sharks there.

Z-Mike
12/13/07 @ 22:59
Comment from: debebe [Visitor]
Melles Zenawi said on Aljzeera that "He will not fire even if Eritrea fires"-- he also said on Ethiopian parliament talk of war on the media is all "teret teret" "we will never fight with Eritrea" so why is the media hyping a non-existent war? shabia and weyane will never fight. But they will keep talking about war to divert attention from two captive populations both in Eritrea and Ethiopia. We should never fall in to the trap of war talking. it is all a crap to deflect attention from democracy and human rights which are allergic to both weyane and shabia.
12/13/07 @ 23:12
Comment from: Binyam Araya [Visitor]
The core of the problem is that the Ethiopians, especially the Amaras can not stand a free and independent Eritrea. Well, no matter who likes it or who hates it matters very little to us, We intend to enjoy our independence for generation to come. We will play out Guaila til dawn as loud as possilble and and enjoy out duka and tseray Suwa as much as possible:)
Oneluv21
12/13/07 @ 23:48
Comment from: King-Solomon_2 [Visitor]
The nameless author of the article is an idiot WAR INSTIGATOR!

He intentionaly misquotes the PM and attempts to rewrite history when the PM clearly stated "NO WAR unless Eritrea invades!" when In actuality the whole world knows that it was Eritrea's stupid dictator that started the war in 1998. Didtator Isayas miscalculated thinking he was easily going to erasily intimidate Ethiopia as he did to Yemen. He invaded a lot of disputed territories and refused to withdrew 'even if the sun didn't rise' only to find himself on a retreat with 50% of his country occupied by the end of the war!

Anyways, the fact that the idiot journalist who wrote the article didn't reveal his name makes me think that he is either a Shaebia or a Shaebia lover. Otherwise, he must be one of those instigator white folks who want to see Africans killing each other.

PEACE WILL PREVAIL!
12/13/07 @ 23:53
Comment from: mo [Visitor]
This Z-Mike character sure can talk for someone sitting behind a computer. I bet if he was actually ON the front lines, he'd probably drop his gun and try to run to Yemen. That is, if he doesn't sink in the Red Sea.

Warmongering parasites like this guy are the reason why Ethiopia is the way it is. Instead of working to eliminate poverty and backwardness, it's spending time and resources on WAR, WAR, WAR.
12/13/07 @ 23:53
Comment from: yonas [Visitor]
all Eritrea shut up or put up you know you all r a big looser,to much trash talk. you better advise your idiot regime to back off. here is what i think i really don't care about Bademe i don't understand why my none tigere ethiopian are die for this sence less coward TPLF regime and their piece of useless land. GO ETHIOPIA.
12/14/07 @ 00:16
Comment from: ermias [Visitor]
shame on the economist i doubt if they have any journalistic integrity,it is sad to rate the magazine so low that it hurts their credentials for the future it became a liar and not trust worthy anymore,

to nazret blog - keep up the good job,you guys are unbelivable much respect for you guys and thank you for posting the comments form everyside
12/14/07 @ 00:44
Comment from: Aba Milkiy [Visitor]
" We will make certain it will never ever dream of entertaining or thinking about war again"!! Hmmm! I wish Mengistu Haile mariam should have said it at Abiyot Adebabaye.
This son of a beach, Zenawi is simply bragging.
If you are genuine BRING IT!! WODI ADIGI!!
12/14/07 @ 00:52
Comment from: yohannes [Visitor] Email
Guys dont believe the hype!!!
They really need new stories
12/14/07 @ 01:26
Comment from: O. Ujilu [Visitor]
As Yaleb beautifully articulated, gutter journalists like that of the Economist are biased with respect to Ethiopia and the reality on the ground. In their rebel days, Meles and Isayas had been agreed to sceeede their respected provinces, disarm Amhara speakers and arm separatists like OLF, ONLF and SLM and leave them at each other throat so that Tigray and Eritrea will as separate states will enjoy development with the loot they got from the Dergue regime. The grand scheme of deconstructing Ethiopia and revamping the economy of Tigray and Eritrea for their ultimate secession was under progress until Meles Zenawi discovered he will benefit more by ruling Ethiopia than decalaring independence in a dry waste land Tigray. And he also realised his political persona will be much prestigious as the ruler of greater Ethiopia than a minuscule northern province of Tigray. Definitely, Meles ate his own words and betrayed his comrade-in-arms and cousin in Asmara. This betrayal of agreement was the basis for their clash and subsquent war on the pretext of a small portion of arid land called Badme. Melese has already agreed to relinquish 1000 km water front and two major sea ports to a provine a size of only 5% of Ethiopia. Therefore, it is unimaginable to think he refused because Badme is more important than Ethiopia's legitmate outlet to the outside world. The reason is Melese do not want to accept defeat from a rival in a mini state called Eritrea!
I was so happy to see when the unlawful and biased so called Border Commission dead without cermony.
12/14/07 @ 02:05
Comment from: mahari [Visitor]
come on wayame,eritreans r 5million u r83million stop crying u got unconditional suppor of us for being good house boy be proud of eritreas cousins
12/14/07 @ 02:09
Comment from: Joker(*_*) [Visitor]
Talking here will not do, but acting is the key here.

As for weyanas war, I doubt anyone will fight for them, and as for Eritrea I am sure of it they want war. I do not know why, but they seem to be pumped up for war.Either (shabya) they have been given some kind of amunition aid or they are pathetically ignorant.
12/14/07 @ 03:10
Comment from: puntland [Visitor] Email
we somalis plus ogadens will never ever forget what you guys did to ogadens and muqdish once we get ritoff those traiters in somalia we teach you guys another mad mulah-ahmed guraa-siad bare and real 1000% SOMALI OGADENS ARE KICKING SOME right know SO ONE THINK IS FOR SURE POLITICS HAS NO FREINDSHIP BUT INTREST SO WHEN AMERICA DUMB YOU WHO IS GOING TO DEFEND YOU REMEMBER uic DEFEATED melez in lidale battle when his troops been chased down to fin-finy america gave him air support all way down to muqdisho so my point is how come a over 5000 years old abbysinia civilization can't win by it self against 50years old indpendent somalia so you ethiopian if you are not muslim prepare for the consquence of your fathers curently genocide in ogaden and muqdisho look around u evry were enemy?to all who love god, it is fair that weyeny troops used the quraan to clean his ass ?that y we somalis hate abssinya have you people hear any muslim disrepectin others faith matter fact we muslims respect jesus more than the peole that belive in him that we say (peace be upon him)evry time we mention his name
12/14/07 @ 03:20
Comment from: shaqlane [Visitor]
This regime's period is over! Every where it iz defeated. all it iz corwad soldiers are the run, So who will fight 4 it this time? The anwser is N ooooo One
12/14/07 @ 04:55
Comment from: shaqlane [Visitor]
The time came that all those who fled from Ethiopia coz of the monster there would come back home because Eritrea will invade and chase the monster away
12/14/07 @ 05:12
Comment from: friend of Ethiopia [Visitor]
our mean problem is woyane and his a few supporters fm Tigria.I big you to all our friend Ethiopians to not go to war for this parasit gang.they think time is as it was like 1998-2000 and they Ethiopia ppl follow them to hell.make clear to them that you are not in thier game.they use you just as they did before.say enouge is enough.they democrat movmemt,the Afar new found org,the hole south ppl.the oromo and the Ogden and last the hole ppl od Adis.do everthing to distroy this bastrad woyane
12/14/07 @ 05:18
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
Z-Mike I agree 100% with you. indeed united Ethiopia that what we need here. In the mean time the moron group of dead shabia must go now.Yeha
12/14/07 @ 05:24
Comment from: Tazabiw [Visitor]
Thanks Z-Mike
I say no more.

12/14/07 @ 05:44
Comment from: shaqlane [Visitor]
To Crazy-mike, Open ur eyes and wake up! Meles's dayz arn numbered, I thnk u see that he is defeated every where!
12/14/07 @ 05:57
Comment from: M.T. [Visitor]
the economist,

"Eritrea has heard it before. Ethiopia tried to drive it into the sea at Massawa between 1998 and 2000, and failed. "


Wrong. It was the international community that stopped to happen before Eth. Forces could have sucked Asmara in one night and send confrontational Eritreans in disarray. What is its hidden Agenda - the economist - not to swallow factors that the Ethiopian gallant forces could have ascertained, i mean, seeing the fact that they could have swallowed Eritrea. Or sent Isaias's forces to their caves in their desert.

The Ethiopian government did listen the int'l community and retreated its forces. Hundred thousands immigrants resettled back. At the beginning you made Ethiopian forces a laughing stock, saying, that, tiny eritrea is beating Ethiopia. Ha ha ha. Then the Ethiopian made a real offense and you begged them knelling to retreat. Rationally, I don't know what could have happened, since Eritrea is suffering at the yoke of Isaiah's ruling machine and Many Eritreans want to break free, if Ethiopians made the regime change there? Wouldn't that be better? Or wait Eritreans to do it themselves, that we are doing now.

economist, though a good journal, when it comes to Africa why is that you bring messy reports?

peace for now


12/14/07 @ 07:04
Comment from: yeEthiopia Lij [Visitor]
Eritreans

Still Meles there you can barck it.

ETHIOPIA Lezelalem Tinoralech!
12/14/07 @ 07:09
Comment from: Pia [Visitor]
“SHOULD Eritrea launch another war, we will make certain it will never ever dream of entertaining or thinking about war again.”


great statement ... but doubt it because this time u wont have too many supporters u liar
12/14/07 @ 08:35
Comment from: ALEM [Visitor]
Well said Z-Mike, To peaceful loving ertriean, i wish you good luck. To the rest of ertreans you going to get it. you will be wiped out including UIC. Time to say good-buy Ethiopian force is coming to get you.
12/14/07 @ 09:10
Comment from: teju [Visitor]
we have to pray for this problem war is not good for both country.they have to learn from the past.
12/14/07 @ 09:52
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Eritrea under the rule of tyrant rule of Issay-ASS Afeworki did violate the Ethio-Eritrean border commission agreement, by running over the 25km di-militarized zone and evicting the blue helmet army that was set up by the UN, purely to observe the peace agreement between the two countries, while Ethiopia is looking and pursuing a negotiated and peaceful resolutions settlement due to rejection by the locals over, over the ruling of the Algers agreement.

Pm. Meles Zenawi is correct by what he said, Ethiopia has no reason to look forward in to another war, with the failed state of Eritrea, however if provoked, make no mistake about what Ethiopia will do and act accordingly to preserve it's integrity and national security.

GOD bless our country and people.
12/14/07 @ 10:04
Comment from: m [Visitor]
i would like to advaice for both ountry. war is not good for them.it is not civilaization.they have to learn from the past.
good luck of all.
12/14/07 @ 10:07
Comment from: Assab Ethiopia [Visitor]
Eritreans are in a position to exploit the rejection of the Tigray fascist regime of Ethiopia by non tigre Ethiopians at home to their advantage.If the war starts no one can recognise Tigray as it was before.May be it will become a colony of Eritrea.Let them sort their problems by themselves.After all they are cousins.It is non of our business!
12/14/07 @ 10:17
Comment from: Burt [Visitor]
Both of them are nasty dictators who enjoy the misery of their people!

Plus, both can not be called leaders of their nations as they obviously rule those people without compassion and rule of law.

They are cursed children of east Africa!

HR2003 may pinch Meles a bit but deserves far worse than that.
12/14/07 @ 10:17
Comment from: Sebseb [Visitor]
Ha what a joke. 4 million Eritreans Scarring the hel out of 80 million Ethiopians.
12/14/07 @ 10:59
Comment from: General [Visitor]
You know it well. We defeated the Dergi regime when they were supported by Americans and then by the Russians. What makes you think the so called Weyane regime will win the war this time with support of Americans. After all we are the ones who put this regime in power for you so we have the moral and political authority to bring it down when they misbehave. Mr.Meles turned his back against the big brother (Afwerki) and he destabilized the whole region so it is up to us now to punish him. I know you are scared of the unknowing but believe me, we will put someone who is much more responsible for you this time. It is high time that we act quickly and decisively before this maroon wipes out the whole population of this great nation, Ethiopia. It is for your own good my beloved brothers that Eritrea has to go to war. I believe that is the only solution at our disposal right now. For God sakes! I mean…how long do you want us to sit back and watch while he is arresting massacring thousands of innocent Oromos, Ugaden-Somalis and Somalis from Mogadishu? This is just unacceptable. Enough is enough. We can’t take that sh** no more. Don’t worry; even if Meles has increased the badge by 100%, it won’t make any change. Mengustu once said, “We brought the best military weapons. What do you want me do for you more than this? Do you want me to buy HEART?”
12/14/07 @ 11:21
Comment from: Shagray [Visitor]
Some of us are talking about the winner, as if it is a soccer match. It would be very devastating on both sides, God forbid, if it erupts. No winner in modern wars. Let us pray so that the danger hovering over our region shatters away. I do not like the unnecessary rhetoric and the exchange of insults here. Nobody gains from wars. It means the death of tens of thousands (if not more), destruction of infrastructures, more widows and orphans, the disruption or the suspension of development projects due to the relocation of financial resources to build war capabilities, diversion of attention away from our pressing needs and the deepening of hatred among brothers and sisters. It should happen, if at all it should, only as a necessary evil and the last resort. Lets pray for peace while keeping calm; not yielding to emotions.
12/14/07 @ 11:47
Comment from: salam [Visitor]
what a stupid leader ? kill kill each other, why why ? is it for that desert village. live in peace, same people, same skin, same continent so why kill each other. sorry for african.fool people
12/14/07 @ 11:51
Comment from: erilover [Visitor]
Hey Ethios

You guys are a real talented group of people...especially when it comes to talking, singing, and dancing.. and don't forget, begging..I just want put you all in a show and watch you for entertainmnet...You've been bragging and talking for centuries now..at the end of the day...still a poor uneducated people making a living begging for aid..why don't you pull all that energy you waste talking about how great Ethiopia is and actually DO something to MAKE it great..(and not the greatest begger in the world)
12/14/07 @ 12:09
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
Eritreans, pray for Meles. The day he dies, you will cease to exist. Until then, yaw yetelemedewun gura ena lehache mazrebrebe techelalachehu. :>>
12/14/07 @ 12:14
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TPLF thugs again jamming this website you have no legitimacy calling us for unity . You are with shabya the worst ennemies for the sovereignty of our dear ETHIOPIA .All true Ethiopian will defend the sovereignty of his motherland never the survivals of the TPLF bandits ,the tigreans mafias and certainly not the tyrant Zenawi .When will you finally understand that Nazret.com is not a media for TPLF propagandas .SHUT UP BUNCH OF LIARS !!! LONG LIVE THE TRUE ETHIOPIANS !!!!
12/14/07 @ 12:18
Comment from: why not [Visitor]
Melse... You can lead a horse to water,,
, but you can't make it drink!
Likewise nobody is going to fight your
dirty war
12/14/07 @ 12:25
Comment from: Dedefo [Visitor]
Is the level of reporting 'The Economist' has come down to? Who ever reported this could really have done a better job had he/she tried harder. The Ethiopian Army stopped only 45 - 50 kilometeres short of the the Eritrean capital, at the gates of the town of Segeneiti. Ethiopia could have marched in two the capital unopposed. The Eritrean army simply imploded after it's front line of defence was breached. It really pains me that Eriterean elites in the diaspora believe the garbage that Eritrea won the last war. I have talked to Eritrean kids who participated in the last war. They tell a different story. Eritrea is a tiny nation of 4 or 5 million with a very poor economy. It will have to choose between living and working peacefully to develop it's economy and feed it's people or finance the Somali and Oromo, etc. fronts and die a slow death.
12/14/07 @ 12:45
Comment from: Neftegna [Visitor]
The fact on the ground shows that ETF (ethiopian Forces) were deep into eritrea at the end of the war!! Now! as PM Meles said any wrong move from the eritrean counterpart would lead to its destruction!!! it will be A REGIME CHANGE!!!...if shabia don't like!! what can he do really!! ETF is still in the eritrean soil!!...the only way out for shabia is to bow down to his new master Meles and bring a democratic change in eritrea!! the way i see it..whether be peace or not..shabia is dying slowly but surely!! Adios!!
Long Live ETF & Ethiopia!!
12/14/07 @ 13:08
Comment from: ALEM [Visitor]
peace is earned through war. and this war is needed yesterday. Ertrieans please start the war. Otherwise you won't be free. And Meles you are pising me off. You have enough excuise to invade Ertreia. Would you do it already. War is good. it will bring respect and peace. Ignore all this ertrian on this web, they already choosen their desitny, to get their behind kicked as uasual. I will be in my front sit to watch the ertrian looser asking for mercy.

see you later
12/14/07 @ 13:16
Comment from: soda [Visitor]
I wish either one of the leader should go. Unless one of the two scape no peace.One should win the other.Hey, guys do something with the war. Come on.Why wait.
12/14/07 @ 13:29
Comment from: ALEM [Visitor]
by the way tigrian no matter what they are ethiopians. Therefore those of you who think we the Amaharas don't support the gov't, how wrong you are. the only people who don't support the gov't are only the residue of Derg. As Amhara i am proud to have meles or tigrian in the gov't. Those Amharas who claim meles is dividing them. it's only on your mind. Take look at USA All state have zip code. and they tell you they are from NY CA or so on. That doesn't make them they hate their presedent because he/she is form NY, TX, MA and so on. I am not supirior over Tigrians and they are not superior over me ( Amhara ). we all are the same people including Ertrians. So don't be used by CUD or other for their own agenda. Participate in the political system and try to make a different. Yes i agree about what happen in 2005 should have never happened. but, that's not an excuse to be used by those who want harm to any ethiopians not matter what the etnicity is. So, Get your act together and don't talk about just the tigrian people. the war is with all ethiopians. War is good and it will come soon, then we will have peace. Meles get your act together and use all legal means to over throw Ertrian gov't.
12/14/07 @ 13:33
Comment from: engedab [Visitor]
Hey ! the so called top news economics paper of the world
Why don’t you shut your racist dream a fight between Ethiopia and Eritrea
Your news paper is racist liar hate full fascistic. Miss informing and oppressive
Ethiopia and Eritrea are brotherly and sisterly countries. Yes our relation is sour and I know you like it you want us to kill each other. Your hateful news paper is likes war between African people. That is why you paper is full of negativity about Africa.
Let me tell u Ethiopians and Eritrean will never fight. We the people will stop it
12/14/07 @ 13:53
Comment from: alemayehu yazew [Visitor]
Donkey kick donkey so they are the same they think they can not loos the tooth.
B/c they are thinking like Donkey i am sorry to say that.
Poor Er and Ehio.
Militar stop war let as discusse.
12/14/07 @ 14:06
Comment from: nadiazeki [Visitor]
As to the '...ethio coming to kick eritrea"...time and time again the past regimes and current ones bluffed, are bluffing like there is no tomorrow. Mengistu did it and TPLF are doing it since they got into Mengistu's boots. But for Etireans this bluffing is business as usual with the war mongering ones.

Eritrea shall prevail no matter what!!
12/14/07 @ 14:44
Comment from: One [Visitor]
390 million dollar on defence!
That is just to much!
17% of the BNP!

With that money we could have been building the most modern hospital in the whole africa!
12/14/07 @ 16:29
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
The X- Shabia Bandit who calls him self "General",on this website, is feeling besieged, like his BANDA compatriots in Assmera. You must be dreaming your worst nightmare, coming true man!. Tell your Banda friends in Assmera, not to push their luck, Pm. Meles Zenawi is looking for an excuse to kick your Banda and terrorist leaders ASS and clean their old Italian made clock, once and for all. Be careful for what you are asking fore!! Mr. "General"!!!
12/14/07 @ 16:31
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Nadiazeki: after 30 years of war,so many lifes lost in vain and with no historical backings for Eritrea's state hood being in question, fore being unsustainable around the world, clearly shows the signs of a failed state by all definitions that you can think of, and imagine. What you are speaking of as "Eritrea will prevail" is another of your pure illusions and a degenerate wishful rhetoric that has been said time and again by the BANDA leaderships of your rogue nation Eritrea. You as a people of Eritrea failed to capitalize on a rare opportunities at your hand, if you were truly and genuinely interested in being an independent people and country. what you are absorbing and experiencing in Eritrea at this point of time is, as a direct result of a misguided revolution of a few 'AGASSES' Eritreans and a pay back for your gross mistakes, by a few BANDA Eritreans who had amassed a substantial amount of personal wealth at the expense of the population of Eritrea and life of Eritreans, misery and disparity and therefore, Nadiazeki, blame not the Ethiopian people and nation, but your self and your tyrant BANDA leadership of your failing nation of Eritrea. As for me, I cry not for Eritrea/ns, so much has been said and done, about your assumed dream of "the African Taiwan, successful Eritrea". Deal with your shit and allow us to deal with ours. It is your owen making, shut up and deal with it or die with it.

See ya!!!
12/14/07 @ 17:55
Comment from: DownWithEconomist [Visitor]
The Economist is enemy no.1 of Ethiopia.

Articles of the Economist are never signed; we don't know their authors; it is a kabal: the mouthpiece of some dark forces...
12/14/07 @ 18:47
Comment from: To: One [Visitor]
One,

It's not 17% of GDP, rather 17% increase over the previous 3.4% of GDP.

Hope it's clear for you now.

One love.
12/14/07 @ 19:06
Comment from: habesha [Visitor]
HANG ISAYAS LIKE SADDAM!!!!
12/14/07 @ 20:02
Comment from: SewMalet [Visitor]
Woos, your are probably from The Economist!
SHAME ON YOU!
12/14/07 @ 20:16
Comment from: Tarik Yfareden [Visitor]
For an excellent backgound information of Ethio-Eritrean unity Dr Shumet Sishagn's book:Unionists & Separatists" is by far the best book available. It is a "must read".

The extraordinary thing is how a whole people that wished to be reunited with motherland Ethiopia in 1950-2, thirty years later "decided" to seceed. Western and Arab support is one factor, but a great deal more is due to our own governments or regimes' ineffectiveness.
There is therefore a great lesson to be drawn from this before we preach unity: the people of Ethiopia must govern themselves by themselves, then not only Eritrea, but Somalia and Djibouti will join us as the peoples of these countries are not only Ethiopian, but even if they were not, they would join us for the sake of freedom and self-interest only.
12/14/07 @ 20:38
Comment from: AGAM [Visitor]
Nadiazek
The lost shabia girl it was eprdf that saved you from derg in SAHEL,NAKFA,BARKA,AND MISTEWA,stop your old empty propaganda.They saved you thinking you were a victim of derg not known that your true motive that was destroying the rest of civilized ethiopia.Shabians are like a wounded dogs since 1991 when the tigray people rejected them and vowed to go to war for the interest of ethiopia.Now most of you shabians are busy defaming tigrays people name,just because they are standing aginst your evil agenda for the benefit of ethiopia.Get use to it NO BADMA NO PEACE NO WAR for now.Come get badma like the ethiopian took it from your masters by force.
12/14/07 @ 22:21
Comment from: Yohannes Ad [Visitor]
When Eritreans were Ethiopians the game was diffrent but not anymore now the rule of the game has changed to even compare and think in going into war with Ethiopia to waist money and energy trying to show a skinny muscle all is for nothing. Issayas if he wakes up he might need some police forces to control his inner city problems but not to fight with Ethiopia, he's using his resource in the wrong place, he should try the peacefull way. Love will conquere all buddy! Get those poor kids out of the trenches and send them to school.
12/14/07 @ 22:30
Comment from: wepe [Visitor]
woos
why do u have to be so rude n' use those words or are u just another teenager without any friends to have fun with? If thats the case the community on this forum is not a target for u to show ur lack of self respect n' immature behavior. If u wanna discus things then do it the way grown ups do n' don't be angry that we still afford to eat injera while u have to stick with that pasta u import from...u know where.

As mad as i am right now I should reply on the only way u seem to understand but I'll never let myself sink the same level as u while am mad so maybe next time...

filmon and eritrean guest I never got a response from neither off u on my replies to u...I am taking it as u agree with me...right filmon ???(BTW about the Asseb thing did u do ur homework?)


Igzer Ethiopian 1 Yargat, Kekfum Yitebikat.
Wakes up every day proud that am an Ethiopian.
12/14/07 @ 23:09
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
YEHA
TAZABIW
ALEM
You all are appreciated! Thank you
Alem, I love you additional comments.
Way to go all.

What’s up Agam? Keep up the fight.
Ghion, they won’t shut up my brother.

One, our military deserves more than $390 millions. Our safety and security is determined by the strength of our military. So, it is very important our military is will taken care of for its brave scarifies. Remember, because of our soldiers scarifies we’re able to enjoy our safety and freedom in our nation today. I am sure it will even go up to about $500 million to better balance and equip our military… the rest is priceless!

Some of you SHAEBIANS who’re still talking about Eritrea can bomb Addis, you should study basic geography. There is no way in the hell Your 8 su27UB can much to the superior Ethiopian air force and there is no way you can even fly these 8 planes you purchased in 2003 to enter Ethiopian air space. The foreign pilots well leave you with the machines for you to deal with the day Ethiopian air force starts to fly over ASMARA. We’ll make sure your radar are taken out and your planes are destroyed before take offs and your master throwing into the deep see for sharks to get some dinner. What a poor sheabians. We shall wait and see…

Take care all,
Z-Mike
12/15/07 @ 02:21
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Erilover: you guys (the BANDAS) of Shabia, makes me laugh every time I read your comments.
At first you try to tell the world how uneducated we Ethiopians were and followed up by saying, you thought us" how to cook spaghetti", proud of your slavery time and history, under fascist Italy, where Eritreans were forbidden from going to school and Your BANDA forefathers joined forces with the invading fascist Italy, and fought against their owen fathers, brothers, mothers and sisters. My friend you have nothing to be proud of, the history of Eritrea is nothing but shameful to these days. You talk about bragging!, your very comment of Ethiopians by it self is the mother of all the typical banda bragging. What do you have that makes Eritrea a better country or better people than Ethiopia or Ethiopians?, for a change, say something other than your, inferiority complex. All of your history has been to create an identity that you never had and never will, you are Ethiopians Amehara (Gojjam) ethnic background, you are not any different from other Ethiopians. That is a mishap and identity crises you have had and created for your self, almost for a century long, and now you are paying for your gross mistakes and there may not be a light at the end of the tunnel for you. It will require generations of reversal thinking and mind setting to find your way back to the real home and that is none other than Ethiopia.

Have a good one!!
12/15/07 @ 11:40
Comment from: yonas [Visitor]
this is for woos, listen body let me tell u i can tell u r from ghetto some where there. i belive you born in sudan ur mom was refuge for years in the desert and came to USA grow up in project house with out father saleing crak in a ghetto having 10 kids. this is my advise for you freind, first try to locate where your father and eritrea. low life pank. i will probably hear you from jail next time.o
12/15/07 @ 15:26
Comment from: kwe [Visitor]
Don't trust reporters they fabricate things and lie,they have reasons to do this,here are some of the reasons,they are paid to lie by the other party to play on the nerves of the opponent and try to wage a psychological war fare,another reason why they lie is because they hate something, in this case they might hate Ethiopia or Ethiopians and simply they are trying to revenge.Another reason why reporters lie is because they're jealous ,in this case Ethiopia could do what America could not do,defeat the Islamist government in Somalia in a short time,the Americans think they're embarrassed by this,because Ethiopia did what their Army could not do.I personally heard this from many Americans.So because of all these reasons and other hidden reasons they lie,they lie like a dog and when they lie and attack it hurts.
12/15/07 @ 23:48
Comment from: Selam [Visitor]
m living in the west and when i see how these white people portray our countries, i realy feel ashemed at my self and my people. This Article is just another version of their tarnishing, hatting attitudes towards African and its people. Please people wake up, Eritreans and Ethiopians are neighbours how can you >:XX entertain such comments made by some western Media. When do we learn? These people have reached at this stage by manipulation and stealing other poor people's resources. And definitly sure that they can't still resources if A People is Marching towards prosperity and understands each other leaves in peace and harmony. Are we this dumb. My fellow Ethiopians and Eritreans, please i know we are much much better than this so let's just observe any thing that comes from the west with lots of suspecion It's a shame that Eritreans and Ethiopians have to fight for this long over some silly issues. Hope God opens our eyes and teaches us respect for each other and Love for our brethren.
Chears=>
12/16/07 @ 09:54
Comment from: selamta [Visitor]
It's very sad to read every time that Ethiopia and Eritria are on the verge of war. When will we get the people of both countries that we need to grow up and move on with our lives.Why so much hate and bitterness after all these years. I really don't get it, because the rest of the world is moving on and they have plenty things to catch up, but our leaders preach us war and hateratizum. The sad thing is we follow them like bunch of thugs.Please let's grow up and unit our ideas, let's come together for better fruit like many civilized people. I don't care about wyana, shabya or kinijit either. I only care the poor Ethiopian and Eritrian people.Only people who lost their loved ones know better how it feels the crulity of war.I know that first hand. But our socalled leaders never get to the war fronts, only our brothers, sisters, cusines and nephews. We can be a great nations if we listen each other and start thinking positive. Let's start at nazret.com. Bring on the positive ideas and dreams for our people and nations, then we will build on that. Imagin how we can become the Greatest Generation of our nations.Let's preach this positive ideas instead of attacking each other.It is fact that Ethiopian and Eritrian people have so many things in common even today. We spend time together in weedings, churchs, mosques, funerals, etc. So why is so difficult to enlarge these wonderful commonalities to the next level.I do expect positive responses and appreciate all of you out there for caring of your nations.Let's start working with our minds together.There is always a solution for a problem!!!
Regards
12/16/07 @ 11:31
Comment from: Habeshaw [Visitor]
Economist, is shabea a majority share holder?
Anyway it is necessary to end the eritrean question once and for all. The only way, sad to say is, an all out elimination of shabean forces to allow the eritrean people to exsercise their rights. Hey we can only win the war but the battle is winning the hearts of these people.
12/16/07 @ 11:33
Comment from: ZerafTop [Visitor]
Badme is God forsaken useless piece of land. Isaias and Meles are using it as a ruse to continue their dictatorship. Z-Mike as a Woyane goon you vomit here daily. Poor you you will suffer from words anorexia. There is no need to fight about Badme or other things. Eritrea and Ethiopia are now two different countries and their people should concentrate on how to improve their conditions respectively. The divorce has been done deal almost 17 years. Get over it Mikey-Z and other dudes who are a fixture at this blog.
12/16/07 @ 14:07
Comment from: Yonas Tibebe [Visitor]
Well, Ethiopia did not try to drive Eritrean into the sea, we stopped because quite literally, IssayASS' ass was saved by the bell, with an international outcry once the ET army broke through, there was nothing to stop it from going to Asmara, Massawa or anywhere else.

I don't think the question is who would win a war, but what would come after. If there is a war and we topple IssayASS, what do we do next? Isn't that another Somalia for us, with an even less supportive locals?
12/16/07 @ 16:29
Comment from: Habeshaw [Visitor]
War is unavoidable. There will never be peace in the East African region unless Mr. Afeworki is eliminated. It will be a great favor for the Eritrean people,for the Somali people, for the Darfur people and mostly for humanity in that part of the world.
Afeworki is evil.
and evil must be burnt by the cross... as injustice must be met with the brut hand of justice therefore the evil must face justice.
12/16/07 @ 18:05
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Zeraftop: assume Z-Mike is Weyane,a fixture of nazret.com and the things you have said about him. Let me ask you!, what are you? Who do you support?, what is you political ideology? What is it that, both Ethiopia and Eritrea you want them to do, in order to come to a peaceful resolution? any clue? Or just a floater!.

Let us assume you are a peace maker and you resent war and you don't care for both Ethiopia and Eritrea, you suggested Bademe is a scrap of land and not worthy of fighting fore, now! take a side and tell one of the leaders you support and say to him. Bademe is not worth fighting fore, and therefore make peace with the other side and drop Bademe in the other guy's pocket for him to have. Mr. Genius, stop trying to make your brother look bad, while you have your owen shit loads of garbage that you need to cary.
Zeraftop: I rather deal and have more respect for people that have their foot aground and make there point of view clear, regardless of who they support, just Like Z-Mike is, rather than dealing with the slick willies and floaters like you, who sniffs and pace around the streets, in hopes of striking it big.

Have a good one!
12/16/07 @ 18:48
Comment from: geb [Visitor]
At this point, it is necessary to put even half of the nation's hard cash into the military. Ethiopia is surrounded by enemies who want the disintegration and destruction of its peaceful people. You can't have a peaceful country when there are people like Isayas, Somali extremists, and CUD supported ONLF/OLFs.

PEACE to the Ethiopian people.
12/16/07 @ 22:53

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