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Somalia's top clan says Ethiopian pullout only end to deadlock
MOGADISHU (AFP) — Ethiopian troops must leave Somalia for the country's ailing transitional institutions to garner any legitimacy and a political solution to emerge, leaders from Somalia's top clan said Thursday.
The presence in Somalia of the US-backed Ethiopian regime's troops will continue fueling violence that has already killed thousands and displaced close to a million in recent months, Hawiye elders said.
On Thursday alone, 13 civilians were killed in Mogadishu, including 11 when two mortar shells smashed into a market area.
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Ethiopia must withdraw. We cannot afford to stay there. It is ugly and there is basically no government to defend. Why do we have to create more hatered?
If fight the king fight him till he dies if not he will have your head. You have started it, so finish it. leave or not, they will always hate you. That is for sure.
It is unfortunate situation for Ethiopia but we need to stay the course, it is neither in the interest of the Somalian civilian nor for Ethiopia to leave the situation at this point.
As usual there is a smart and arrogant personality combined in Mr. Zenawi, while his smarts outweigh his arrogance, he can push people to the limit with his words and sometimes his arrogant attitude causes the rest of the country to pay for it. The insurgence in Somalia is more than a few thugs, it is very important that we re-assess the situation and make a decision whether we can resolve the Somali problem or not instead of creating more radicals in the process of a draging civil war between Somalians.
hey-what’s wrong with some guys here-we ethiopians have the-god-chosen-right to stay overthere in bloody-fu’… somalia as long as we want-that’s for sure !!!we have been invited by the somali TFG and the modertate part of the somali population eager to end the traditional anmity between our countries-also our brave and gallant army has the god-given-rigjht to protect most-of-all our ethiopian -national -souvereignity-especiallyin our eastern ogaden/harerge/socold “somali kilil"-and beyond the border in the former italian-somaliland aka “republic of somalia"-likeitornot-we ethiopians have the biggest and strongest african army and we are PROUD OF IT-except the socold “ethiopian opposition in the diaspora"-where one of their leaders ("DR."b.nega)is open conspirating together with terrorist-separatist terrorists like olf/onlf a.s.o. on hr 2003-embargo-plan against mother ethiopia,and socold “ethio-patriotic forces” operating from enemy eritrean soil against mother ethiopia-you will deserve what you seeded-that’s for sure!!!
SOMALI SO CALLED PRESEDENT IS SAYING WE NEED FOR HELP TO THE WORLD, WHICH COUNTRY SEND FOR TROOPS, THE REAL LIFE IN MOGADISHU IS KILL OR YOU WILL DIE. WAYANE IN MOGADISHU THEY DON,T HAVE WAY TO BACK, THIS IS LESSON FOR MELES, I THINK MELES DID NOT WATCH THE BLACK HAWK DOWN,
Somalia and Ethiopia fought 2 wars and Ethiopians should not be blind about this. What Meles did to Somalia is not good. We fought the Islamic courts to support the current president of Somalia and to fulfil America’s wishes of destroying them. Why are the Somali people against our troops?.
1. We are supporting a blood sucker who has been a warlord for 40 years.
2. We brought back to Mogadishu the warlords who kept the Somali people hostage for the last 15 years. Not only are they in Mogadishu but they have been made mayors, ministers and the like.
3. The last reason which plays not a big part is the past history of Ethiopia and Somalia.
Meles is not going to be there for ever but Ethiopia and Somalia will be living side by side forever. So, we need not extend this occupation of Somalia. Now it has become a civil war not Islamists propaganda we are seeing on some websites.
As Ethiopians we need to raise our voices against anything that will have negative impact on our nation in the long run.
I love Ethiopia and I respect our leaders but this is not in the interest of our Ethiopia and its Soldiers.
Ethiopia will need to teach Somalia who the the boss is. Ethiopia should not withdraw until they behave themselves
What is ethiopia after all.Ethiopia is already full of its evils Hiv Aids, malaria, fllod, economic disparity, huge human right abuse, border conflict, limitless corruption, total injustice, political instability, total free speech shutdown, torture, mass killings, disappreances, ethnic cleansings specific to the Oromos, dictatoria rule, So what is the real meaning of ethiopia worring to stabilize Somalia when even it is not cleaned it self?
WOW Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!! look at the picture. He looks like dead skeleton.
The soldiers in Somalia do not represent Ethiopia or Ethiopians since they did the same thing to innocent kids and students. So you guys better say woyane soldiers. I am not happy when media say Ethiopian soldiers. We Ethiopians do not support them.
The Somali people are Clansmen and the formation of a transitional government that is democratic and secular is not some thing whose time has come. The IUC is created by the wealthy clans leaders and business men. They do not want to share with the resources with the common people. The Islamists are reactionary clansmen and their extreme sharia law is not applicable to the wealthy, it is a means of controlling the masses. No wealthy man will be stoned flogged, or his hand severed, so they orchestrated the IUC before democracy takes root, they chose the better of the two evils. At the same time the youth have bought the extremism and blood shed which has become a fad or some thing to ape in the Islamic world; until it is to late they are the first to perish or become disabled for life.
The Ethiopian Defense Forces should stop fighting a loosing battle, of an urban war, if you kill you loose if you don’t you loose. It is a double jeopardy. A lesson from the American war experience page calls to fight the enemy from the air where you have the advantage. For all the problem that comes from Somalia the clan leaders and the wealthy merchants are to pay, with a gradually increasing pain. First they loose the ease of traveling by air by taking out the air port, electric power, and telephone. Then fuel depot and bridges and water supply. Make Mogadishu an island where life is not going to be pleasurable. If they don’t behave hit the government buildings and clan leaders houses and business establishments. Let them know they will not sleep at ease as long as they and there guests try to mess with a big neighbour. They will be fully engaged in repairing their damage.
The Somali masses are made permanent aid dependent any way, when the country is endowed with fertile land and oil resources unused. The sheikdoms that provide them with alms and guns, collied with big oil not to exploit the oil in the horn. It is a win win for both low demand and high price results in a sinfully leisure and pecuniary consumption life style. They care less if the Ethiopian or the Somali that die of drought and flood alternatively is a fellow Muslim hypocrites.
LISTEN PEOPLE WE WERE THERE TO HELP YOU,ETHIPOIA IS AN ENAMY ETHIOPIA IS JUST GOOD FRIEND TO HELP YOU TO RECOGNIZE TO EACH OTHER TO TOLERATE TO EACH OTHER ,NOT TO CHEW TO EACH OTHER…YOU WILL LOOSE……………YOU SNOOZ YOU LOOSE BOBY
At the time Woyane sent troops to Somalia I forsaw that they will face Iraq-style insurgency in the future.Now they are trapped in Somalia in such a way that they can’t stay or withdraw.
This is exactly similar to what happened to the US in Iraq.
Our moron leaders were not smart enough to learn from the Iraq conflict!
the invasion has failed that means meles Zenawi has failed, be ready for WAR in Ethiopia
I agree with the clan leader’s statements. Many Somalis, unfortunately, don’t find Ethiopia as a “welcoming” country. Its more of a foe and the fact that it is closely aligned to Somalia’s TFG makes room for suspicious remarks by the Somali nationals. Furthermore, Ethiopia is biased when looking at Somalia because it is a boarder country. The African Union should have taken charge of the situation years ago, perhaps we could have avoided everything else.
Zenawi miscalculated very badly on Somalia. He is facing increasing criticism from the international community for indiscriminate attacks on civilians. He and his mercenary army commanders in Somalia are war criminals and will face the ICC at the Heague in the future. His puppet TFG official has said that 80% of the country is now outside government control and is not safe. The puppet official also warned that Islamist insurgents had regrouped and were poised to launch a major strike. Zenawi is now trapped. As he admitted to his rubber stamp parlama he can not leave and at the same time he can not stay. BOGGED DOWN IN SOMALIA.
I am tried of the clansmen b/s
We need to get rid of these clans and work with the rest of the people.
The clan elders are trying to survive and held on to power.
They need to listen to the gov’t or round them up and put them at a military comps for about 6mns and they will learn something…
“The soldiers in Somalia do not represent Ethiopia or Ethiopians since they did the same thing to innocent kids and students.”
Very true indeed. Unlike Ethiopia were only Woyanne and their collaborators are armed,in Somalia, many people are armed and will not allow Woyanne gangs to run around shooting people freely.
Somalians are lucky to have the most beautiful and brave ethiopians as thier neighbor.The mighty ethiopia will only pull out after making sure there is stability and government in somalia.Ethiopia have to make sure there will be islamist and anti ethiopia forces in somalia.It’s amazing to see some somalians pretend like they have a country now after the great ethiopia came to help them.Ethiopia must continue to help somalian people that are hated by the rest of the world.
I say wake up and smell the coffee, Somali people every where believe that Ethiopia is the enemy number 1… except small group who thinks they can brutalise, terrorise and abuse people hiding behind the Ethipiopian army tanks. Ethiopian leadrs have not accopmlished anything other than creating long hatred towards the two people, and hatred towards the clan based TFG, who is nothing but warlords trying to rule a nation by the guns of foreign army, I will assure you the resistance force will prevail and these TFG thugs will pay havy price for the crimes they have commited. Somalia has been transfoming for the past 17 years, people know very well who can effectively lead their nation, the UIC(for its brief time) had
enjoyed a widespread popularity, whereas the TFG had been rejected from the get go. Finally I would say to Ethiopian people
stop supporting your ill-adviced leaders
to support the TFG and its corrupted leaders.
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