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12/14/07

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Ethiopia - Civilians are forced to fight Ethiopian rebels

Fighters of the Ogaden National Liberation Front tend to belong to the Ogaden clan. (Vanessa Vick for The New York Times)

Ethiopia - Civilians are forced to fight Ethiopian rebels

By Jeffrey Gettleman

The New York Times/IHT

Friday, December 14, 2007

NAIROBI:
The Ethiopian government, one of the United States's top allies in Africa, is forcing untrained civilians - including doctors, teachers, office clerks and employees of development programs financed by the World Bank and United Nations - to fight rebels in the desolate Ogaden region, according to Western officials, refugees and Ethiopian administrators who recently defected to avoid being conscripted.

Ethiopia has been struggling with the rebels for years. But with tens of thousands of its troops now enmeshed in a violent insurgency in Somalia and many thousands more massing on the border for a possible war with Eritrea, the government seems to be relying on civilians to do more of its fighting in the Ogaden, a bone-dry chunk of territory where Ethiopian troops have been accused by human rights groups of widespread abuses



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102 comments

Comment from: baymeno [Visitor]
This is the usual propoganda. Recently we read in Nazret.com Kinijit and ONLF paid one law firm $260,000 for publicity. I don't know how much Jeffry Gettleman got paid to publish this pure fabrication of the truth to international community.

I am sure the truth( how much he makes for publishing these lies) will be revealed in the near future.

The Ogaden people are sick and tired of these rebels and rise against them. They don't want to sit down and watch their progress halted by few anarchists. They want order and they want to get rid of these rebels themselves.

Gettleman twisted this voluntary struggle into negative news. He has already lost his credibility from a lot of reades. Nobody believed him before and nobody believe him now.

God Bless Ethiopia!
12/14/07 @ 16:21
Comment from: girma [Visitor]
I highly doubt that the Ethiopian government is forcing the local doctors, teachers, office clerks and U.N. employees to fight rebels.
I may have believed it if the report said something like a nut Shaleka or Shambel confronted these civilians to fight the rebels :crazy:
Try to make it a little bit more believable next time. When things get exaggerated, the little truth that exists in the story will be lost.
Girma
12/14/07 @ 16:22
Comment from: Yohannes [Visitor]
The more bere wolede stories are written in the western media, the better it is for the EThiopian gov't. Such fictious and baseless news articles may serve a week of jubilation for the enemies of Ethiopia but it clearly showed the desperatness of its enemies. If its enemies are strong enough, there is no need for much talk. They have to achieve their goal of controlling the Ogaden and do their business. Otherwise, too much talk like we have been hearing from the Islamists such as Jihad everyu other week, EDF will be decimated in weeks bla bla to end up in bushes and neigbouring nations is no use.

The wetern media more than any other time is campaigning against Ethiopia. They don't want to see prosperous, strong and self reliance Ethiopia. They are at the fore front to advance the the evil action of Ethiopias enemies either the Arabs or Shabiya. We Ethiopians will never surrender to their hopless attack.

Keep up the Good work my beloved nation.

Viva Ethiopia for ever. The white ass journos will not have a say in Ethiopia.
12/14/07 @ 16:36
Comment from: Death to Weyane [Visitor]
I think it is true, the Weyane regime is on pressure now, thanks God they are going to destroy. Wake up Isayas let's kick some Weyane a**s. Eritrean, Oromo, Somalia, and Ogaden are stand against the tyrant Weyane!!
12/14/07 @ 16:36
Comment from: addaa [Visitor]
Poor Jeffrey!!! the new Dan Connell of the Horn. He belongs to that comical Profession Dagmawi calls "Groupy Jornalism".
12/14/07 @ 16:37
Comment from: duryae [Visitor]
All I can say is abolutely untrue:?:
12/14/07 @ 16:37
Comment from: Befkedu [Visitor]
Hi Jeffrey!!! still you are around Ogaden to write this garbage.kkkk. You were the ONLF journalist....still you are crying for for terrorist...All Ethiopian teachers students, doctors, soliders ,farmers..... all ethiopian ......again all Ethiopian we will fight terrorism... God bless Ethiopia.
12/14/07 @ 16:52
Comment from: Hussien [Visitor]
Guys it is true. I know. Ethiopian government through its regional pupets is forcing me now to go there and fight against the rebels. SO if yoy are true Ethiopians, if care about Ethiopians we are dying day and night here. We don't have training and we are forced to to do it. Pls come and help us
12/14/07 @ 16:52
Comment from: Temuye [Visitor]
I think if he is, last time this journalist was arrested in the Ogaden region; later on, he was released. Is he trying to revenge for what had happened last time? I hope not. The news does not look true. Drs, teachers, hmmmmmmm.
12/14/07 @ 16:59
Comment from: Esat [Visitor]
The end is clearly approaching for the current Ethiopian government. Too bad it disfranchised a lot of true Ethiopians especially Amharas who would have been a force to rely on in time of crisis. Eritrea, Ogaden, Somalia.... Once it started, it is going to spread faster than California fire. The entire world media, including from Arab countries, would focus on Ethiopia. Ethiopia would be the No. 1 action place of the entire world. A government built on deception, looting, injustice, murder, ethnicity and incompetence would fall badly.
12/14/07 @ 16:59
Comment from: Alula yemesker [Visitor]
Hussien,
Ask you banana and bread from Jiffy; he took it on the behalf of you. Do not be an empty echo with a nasty noise.
If I were you, I stop and think in the morning, before the brain clogged with chat.
cheers,
12/14/07 @ 17:06
Comment from: Koki [Visitor]
Not to forum participants:

i have reliable information that the woyane has ordered and even hired people from ethnic group to use various allases and write multiple respnses to publications negative on the woyane. Dont be surprised if pro woyane posts on these forums seem large. I know this from the inside. Thre is a workstation made for this purpose in embassies, insiders would tell you. Their objective is to look like they are many. They are not here to make sense as you see. Since fihging the idea is above their pay grade, they are ordered to insult and demonize Woyane Critics.

This info is from a source in Woyane Embassy.
12/14/07 @ 17:09
Comment from: Yohannis [Visitor]
Woyyanes are trying to kill people in many ways. Kill one through the other. Can we help our brothers and sisters out there. Mellez is purely criminal by any standard.
International media have seen this and reporting even partially,
12/14/07 @ 17:19
Comment from: Masaret [Visitor]
Why is the government using civilians to fight against the rebels. True it is. I know some families from ogaden and they kepp telling same stories. Really well before this article. SO we need to stand up and help these poor peole from the monster.
12/14/07 @ 17:23
Comment from: Tayabi [Visitor]
Hi the above EPRDF Cadres from your opinion the true information comes only from AIGA Forum or ENA, Walta or Reporter.Plz don’t be stupid, and full yourself not me.Woyane is number one lie generator.
Long live Ethiopia
Death for woyane and his twin shabia
12/14/07 @ 17:26
Comment from: teshome [Visitor]
Crap.
12/14/07 @ 17:44
Comment from: dude [Visitor]
i dont know whether what koki says is true but pro eplf commentators on this website have multiplied over the past few months and i dont think it was meles's millenium speech that did it. How come we are not campaigning for people in ogaden like we campaigned for 2005 election votes?
12/14/07 @ 17:52
Comment from: meles [Visitor]
Jeffery shut up!
Ethiopians are black lions,... Every
Ethiopians fight for sovergnity of beutiful Ethiopia. Our grandfathers broke the backbone
of white (ferenji) invaders.
12/14/07 @ 18:01
Comment from: milaboy [Visitor] Email
hey whta are you trying to tell us. we ethiopians are one blood. we are not going hate each other by this kind of fake news. belive it or not we have the srongest miletary in africa!
12/14/07 @ 18:06
Comment from: baymeno [Visitor]
Dude said

How come we are not campaigning for people in ogaden like we campaigned for 2005 election votes?

Well Dude, Not only Meles's Millenium speech but also Kinijit's exposing their true nature in front of their die-hard Supporters made a lot of Ethiopians to come to their senses. Read how Kinijit leaders are firing each other in ethiopiafirst.com. Yesterday, Hailu Hawul fired Birhanu and Birtukan, today Birtukan and Birhanu fired Hailu Shawul. Is that what you want for your beloved Ethiopia or you are a Shabian representative? Come on Dude!

Killing 70 innocent defenseless civilians including nine chinize workers and a three year old boy among the dead won't help ONLF causes nither.

I hope you too will stop your hate mongering and come to your senses.

God Bless Ethiopia!
12/14/07 @ 18:17
Comment from: dany [Visitor]
it is a surprising report by the New York times writer Jeffrey Gettleman! i am not supporter of EPRDF but i don't like people revenge intentions against the Ethiopian National interest!.it is hard to belief the report because of the existing facts in the region ...let me tell you the fact in general ...it is really hard to find doctors, engineers or other professionals especially in the Ethiopian far region like Ogaden and if present ..to force them to fight have a very less probability to be reported as a major crisis in western newspapers as there are lot of human right abuses that has to be given a priority.Anyways you are losing your credibility over Ethiopians who love their country.please stop catering hates between brothers! let us solve our problems by our selves !

God be with my people
12/14/07 @ 18:20
Comment from: GRAVITY [Visitor]
It seems like the ruling party's bloggers are too busy to immediately tarnish any opposing views or articles and tarnish alternative thoughts.
12/14/07 @ 18:23
Comment from: gergud [Visitor]
i am sick & tierd of this idiot call call Jeffrey Gettleman where he gets he BS....I wonder if he get's paid by our enamies... NY time should be ashamed of to have him.
12/14/07 @ 18:56
Comment from: mira [Visitor]
it is shit to read it, i do not know about it but ogaden is our land and part of ethiopia, if it happend part of future oromia. down to bad wishers, with northern beggers, and beggers. stop complaining if your are using learned people for fighting rebels stop and use the dialogue. the real people of ethiopia calling themselves amhara are crying becuse they are failed again to come to power down to kinijit and leaders and supporters
bye
love to developments of poor
12/14/07 @ 19:02
Comment from: bulch [Visitor]
this guy is not reporting from the field it was pripared and given to hem by onlf.look at the picture. shem on newyork time to print this garbage on their paper.if you want authentic no spin news read wahington time
12/14/07 @ 19:06
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
Here we go again with this nonsense. Giffery, you are a mad man. You are a joke now days. We take nothing you say blievable. What a garbage person you are. Shame to this kind of journalism.

Hey man, why can you report about Iraq or Afgan or Israel so that we can see how balance journalist you are. No, you just want to free poor Africans. I am sure that is what you are thinking. Why do not you free the Africans living in the USA. If you can write one thing about slavery in NY times condeming the white man, I bet that will be the last day of your career.

Get lost and find another job. Journalism is not yours since you are too ONLF supporter.
12/14/07 @ 19:37
Comment from: tolossa [Visitor]

:roll:real ethiopian army is deployed for bussiness in somalia to keep american interest there as reward america keep silent of woyanes human right abuse.

The article cleairly showes woyane is a terrerist party .
12/14/07 @ 19:43
Comment from: Eshatu Daba [Visitor]
Gentile man is the best the New York times got. He writes fiction and here say of anti-Ethiopian elements. Some body is paying him to write, the question is Who? It must be BIG OIL, Oligopoly and its corresponding cartel. It has become desperate because of the dare devils of China that is exploiting African resources to satisfy its limitless appetite. African Oil is meant as a reserve for future exploitation, even as the people of the region are dying from the drought and flood alternatively. The greed to make a killing by controlling supply and maximizing price and the resulting high profit has boomeranged on them.
It is in London all the traitor, terrorists enemies of Ethiopia got together to plan and execute the shedding of blood throughout the region. They are given safe heaven and are not even called by their names as terrorists, despite getting captured as they trained with Al-qaeda and smuggled in to the US through Canada, and the Australian government found out its citizens are employed in the act of terror in Somalia. The western media apes the massacre of Chinese and Ethiopian oil and gas explorers in cold blood as heralded by their spokes person in broad day light in London. There is no moral decency to question the death of non westerners. If the victims were westerners, the government and the media that leaves them alone would have been subjected to "You are with us or against us" criteria. There will be no rest by the media until the country obliges by putting the terrorists under arrest and transfer them to the victims nation.
"The horn of Africa is burning is the battle cry of the terror host media." The western media has infatuation with these terrorists of Africans. They are portrayed as victims and the governments of the region that has the responsibility as any government to protect the life and property of its people "The war on terror" is hypocrisy of double standard by western media.
If the terrorists want hell that is what they should get. It has been evident, it is only fire that can make a crackling laughter as it burns gabling every thing that is in front of it and increase its fury by the second like tsunami wave of flood. The laughter will stop by a strong team of fire fighters on air and on land. Fire is fought with fire do not start fire.
12/14/07 @ 19:47
Comment from: kidist [Visitor]
:roll:what a shooking article.

i dont think Biladen would do anything more if he gets power.

people are suffering under brutal regime in the whole region ....
12/14/07 @ 19:58
Comment from: chu [Visitor]
Jeffery Gettleman Go to hell!!! you are stupid F**ing liyer.
12/14/07 @ 19:58
Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]
This regime is a victim of its policies, every day new true comes out and the days of this idiot government is becoming countable
Thanks to God
12/14/07 @ 20:00
Comment from: Ment4you [Visitor]
Jeffry Gettleman, how much do hate us??? how much do you hate Ethiopia???
how much do you hate yourself???

Your lack of professionalism is just beyond boundaries, your lack of intellect is apparent, your lack of knowledge couldn't be any obvious.

Just get a life dude, I don't understand why anyone is paying you to report?? Just mind boggling dude!!!
12/14/07 @ 20:31
Comment from: berta [Visitor]
Wel the Woyane gov can do anything to control everything-politics, money so and so on. But Meles is not a stupid guy. He will not let this happen, not just because he cares about people but he knows that this is dangerious to his politics. He learned this fact the easy way from the Derg's stupidity.
12/14/07 @ 20:38
Comment from: Hussienin yargegne [Visitor] Email
Hussien,

so you are at the war front, eh? and yet you still have internet access. Well, my friend, that makes you better off that 99% of the Ethiopian population. So maybe the war fronts are the place to be at. Can you help me enlist?

Dude (ahun sim tefto new?),
you are right. it is not the speech. Because I, for one, haven't heard Meles' speech, nor do i have a desire to do so. It is common sense that drives me.

Koki,
Can you help me get my pay? if people are getting paid to write my kind of thoughts, i do not see why i shouldn't be one of those people. Hook me up since you know people on the inside.
12/14/07 @ 20:39
Comment from: smart [Visitor]
It is the undeniable truth. He just scratched the tip of the iceberg.

Let everybody know what you just read is the truth. They only mentioned less than 1% of the atrocities commited in our country. They even went to Kenya to kill student Leaders? Amazing.. how these gangsters are determined to stay in power.
I have no words to describe what I feel.
12/14/07 @ 20:42
Comment from: killo 4 [Visitor]
This is 100% true. You so called comment makers will not understand untill the same situation comes to your homes and villages if you have one in ethiopia.have any one of you been to Ogaden,if you were, did you observe the situation closing,the so called regional Melez pupet government will try,what ever it takes to cover up atrosities,if they don't do s they gonna lose their positions.go to Gode the second bigest Town in Ogaden and talk to people,some people may tell you every thing is good while you can see tears from their eyes.because there is no body talk to trust.A governt spy would come to Ogaden villages and act like a nice,Next morning some people would disapear from their homes.so guys think twice before blame sb
12/14/07 @ 20:56
Comment from: wolde [Visitor]
What is this bastard and corrupted yellow fake jornalist said? Why not he join the terorist and see how the galant Ethiopian armies are crushing the jihadist. What a shame for the washington post to have this kind of childish jornalist! I am sure the photo he depict here is taken from Shaebia, just for propoganda consumption. This terorist are already diminished to the very minimal numbers. They are counting their demis soon. Then a child jornalist like this confused jeffery, will have no more information to talk about jihadist! Ethiopia will survive and stay stronger in the face of racist jornalist. Our fathers crushed the white racist, and we their children will follow their example to crush the remaining racist and their supporters, like jeffery!
Long Live Ethiopia
12/14/07 @ 20:56
Comment from: geb [Visitor]
Jeffrey Gettleman go to hell!

Very nice CUD and Shabia propoganda
they don't have anything that is
valuable role in the Ethiopian
people anyway.

Disrruption and istigating can only
give you zero credits towards your
unsatisfied soul.
12/14/07 @ 21:07
Comment from: AGAM [Visitor]
Ethiopia have more external enemies then anyother country in this world.Most of the time ethiopians pave the way for them to defame and distablized her for thier own short goal political satisfaction.In the end of the day it's the majority that suffers do to few selfish short term interest visionarys.Many journalists will continue to write negative news about ethiopia driven by internal enemies combine by anti external ethiopian enemies.Those enemies will fall before ethiopian knees.There was no force in earth that won war only with propaganda.Onlf are not ethiopian somalians they are only hired slaves for ethiopian enemies.
12/14/07 @ 21:15
Comment from: dude [Visitor]
It seems like i was hate mongering on my last comment. baymeno igzer yibarkih i have now stopped my hate mongering. Here's to another 20 years with meles...sike. Here's to repect and value each and every ethiopian life that drops like leaves in the fall.
12/14/07 @ 21:29
Comment from: ethio [Visitor]
nazret please stop writing about this idiot
geffry f>:XX up. does he work for nazret.com?
you guys are trashing your own country for money. shame on you and that mad cow Jeffery.



ethiopia tikdem
trash talker ywudemu.
12/14/07 @ 21:47
Comment from: abbi [Visitor]
come on guys, jeferey gentleman wrote the truth situation in ethiopia. why u guys blaming him. he is one of the true journalist in U.S. well written Jefferey keep going tell the people the truth as u always do.
12/14/07 @ 21:52
Comment from: Addis Lemma [Visitor]
Gettleman,

Somebody is obviously taking you for a ride. This report shows that your are either corrupt to your core or you are a fool, or probably both.
12/14/07 @ 22:01
Comment from: danwa [Visitor]
most of your commentator feeling & opinion shows how we can't be part of ethiopia because we are Somali ogadeni so none of you even consider us Human what do think this french Journalist will gain from already suffering ogadenian the anwser is big zero they are just reporting what they have been told or saw it
we have been under this black aggression for many years no body knows what happen thanks to the internet technology which gave our voice less ogadeni people a window to international communities so can see the atrocities and Human right violations commiting by your ethiopian Regimes be it haile, mengistu and this monkey Zenawi.
but what is funny is that all of you are happy and content suffering of my fellow ogadeni and you guys want to force us to be an Ethiopian citizen by killing torture & denying of our basic Human right.
You guys ask your self how We can accept to be an Ethiopian while most of you are agree the above said ?.
12/14/07 @ 22:22
Comment from: mela [Visitor]
this is absolutly false!
12/14/07 @ 22:47
Comment from: Yohannes [Visitor]
I am an Eritrean that has been done wrong by the current Ethiopian government deporting my family from Addis and I could care less if the current government stays in power or not. But I know one thing for sure I would not believe anything this guy writes. He is a freelance writer and he gets paid by article he writes, whether it is fact or fiction. He writes “Anybody who works for the government — teachers, doctors, clerks, administrators — has to join a militia,” If anyone of you believe this statement then I could not feel sorry for you because you have no knowledge of Ethiopia for that matter Africa as a whole. Africa has far fewer educated doctors and any moron government could figure it out they can help better in the hospital than fighting minor skirmish in a barren land. I do not think the Ethiopian government is led by morons actually quite the opposite.
12/14/07 @ 23:28
Comment from: red [Visitor]
i don't like TPLF gov,

But this Jeffrey, Garebage post,

u can't help the people with this kind of news man come on.

i didn;t know you are in ethiopia the last time you have some proble isn't it.

12/14/07 @ 23:41
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
A promise to my beloved country Ethiopia and my people, I will bring this nazi Jeffrey of NY Times to justice, on our owen way of cultural justification. That is my promise to fulfill before my final destination.
12/15/07 @ 00:09
Comment from: Tibebu [Visitor]
Ay Nazret, you have turned into a propaganda tool for a Jeffrey Gettleman and Egyptians. Shame.

12/15/07 @ 00:12
Comment from: omo [Visitor]
There could be some truth in what this gentleman says. There is no conflict immune to injustice and human right abuses. Unfortunately it is the civilian population that is the first to suffer. But the writer is telling only half the truth. Should Ethiopia, fighting a group which calls itself a LF, that is against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country, do nothing about it? Could ONLF go on murdering innocent civilians and Chinese contractors with impunity, as it did last time? Will Mr. Gettleman’s USA leave alone Honolulu, a country almost a thousand miles away and inhabited by people that share no cultural similarity with the rest of the USA?
There are peaceful ways of struggling for one’s democratic rights. When ethnicity and religion are used to divide people and form spheres of influence, any government, whether democratic or dictatorship, has the obligation to defend the territorial integrity of the country. Fortunately or unfortunately, I do not know what to say, we do not live in a utopian society.
The government of the dictator MZ should not continue to boast about its muscle power. It should try to win the hearts and minds of the Ogadennis. It should show in practice that they are all citizens of Ethiopia, equal to the highlanders, as poor Gettleman calls the other half of the Ethiopian people. For him Ethiopia is only highland Ethiopia.
The Derge used the same tactic, by arming civilians against TPLF and EPLF. This did not work. It is unbelievable that history repeats itself in the most ironic way. Today TPLF is doing the same thing.
Give the people bread, education, infrastructure, and economic development. When they see that they have something they call there own, they wouldn’t care if they are part of one or the other country. If they have nothing they will always believe that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.
Arrogance and scorched earth tactic will take TPLF/woyane no where. Remember you have created too many enemies, much more than you can handle, and the enemies of Ethiopia are counting on this. Try to win the Ethiopian people on your side before it is too late!
12/15/07 @ 00:55
Comment from: Choice [Visitor]
Does it mean Woyane started "Afessa"?
12/15/07 @ 01:27
Comment from: Abe [Visitor]
I do not like Melese's goverment.He is not Ethiopian and he does not do any good for Ethiopia. From day one he and his Woyane ellites plan is to disintegrate Ethiopia. The Woyanes will not leave power until they do so. But this story on the New York Times is garbage. I do not think there is any thing true (may be 5%) in it. What I do not understand is whether this hate propaganda by the writer is targeting Ethiopians in general or the government.
12/15/07 @ 01:28
Comment from: Kacha [Visitor]
I am not for the government but for the truth. The fallacy of jeffery or jinny on how the old colonizers are working against my beloved country obliged me to respond as if I respond for the gov't.
Masaret [visitor], asked:
Why is the government using civilians to fight against the rebels? Because, the western moguls, likeheaded jeffery and his big masters of "globalized colonization" taught them to conduct participatory development,participatory war, participatory security,participatory health...!who shuold die for the wellbeing of who?
The 21st century to scrumble and crack down Ethiopia is designed to work through journalism, humanitarian efforts, development aid, human rights, fighting terrorism, religion etc. For me the woyanes, shabiyas, ONLFs, OLFs...are the functions against united and strong Ethiopia. How many pieces of Ethiopia they want, I'm not sure.Whynot all of them help us to be united, developed and secure. I know, if they do so, they will lose the 12 months sunshine, organic food,big savings for their mortgage,and the milk house freedom of Kazanchis. Pls., the beloved children of Ethiopia, don't betray Ur country because we deserved historically less democratic state. Americans are still working with Bush, "the worst rated president," as they tell us, for the benefit of their country. No American cooperates with al-qaeda for the sake of punishing Mr. Bush. This is civilization. Even if U have leaders that dissatisfy U, U be tolerant for the benefits and interest of Ur country. So, B/c we hate the Ethiopian gov't amd the so called Meles doesn't mean we should cooperate with every historical and current enemy of the country. That is how I see it.
12/15/07 @ 01:41
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
Look at the KKK speaking again. Jeffery {JEFFY LUBE KKK} how much money is Eritrea paying you to print this stupid fabrication? Is that all you got against Ethiopian gov’t? Which doctors and teachers are forced to fight ONLF? These ONLF terrors are on the run because Ethiopian military is chasing them from the ground and air and no person in Ethiopia is forced or asked to fight any war. Ethiopia military service is by choice for your info JEFFERY! How long ago did you lose your mind? You are brainwashed big liar who is there to smeared Ethiopian military. Ethiopia has enough military personals to fight the war in Somalia, its prepared to confront Eritrea if Eritrea attempts to attack…Since Ogaden is not considered war we assure you Ethiopia has more than enough military personals to do the job. So, we suggest you take your angry else where and leave Ethiopia along.

We all know how stupid you are and how you get busted by the Ethiopian military in Ogaden. You entered Ethiopia on a tourist visa not as a report but you thought you can secretly work inside Ethiopia. You did not know that our people/gov/t is a little head of you/your people. You’re a moron man.“Jeffrey Gettleman tried to cover various viewpoints of the story as much as possible, at least enough to pass for an objective piece to be used on NYT. But it was rather easy to detect that he was sending his gratitude to his ONLF tour guides and sending his fury to the Ethiopian authorities for kicking him out, instead of attempting to understand the vital recent events and past details of the story”. He has now able and well to bring stories based on facts. So it’s easier to fool the western readers to fool since they are clueless when it comes about Ethiopia…
12/15/07 @ 01:42
Comment from: Gada Haqaa [Visitor]
Despite what these pro-TPLF commentors above would like the world community to think, this news of government forcing people to fight doesn't surprise me a bit. We have seen such things in the past. I think those who question Gettleman's credibility should perhaps try to prove wrong him as opposed practicing fallacious argument-Ad Hominem.Personal attacks dont make for a credible argument.
12/15/07 @ 02:05
Comment from: b real [Visitor]
the first part of this article is hardly a new revelation - NGO workers and others, including civilians fleeing the region, have been getting that story out for awhile now.

what is new is in the last few paragraphs on assassinating political ethiopians in kenya. so does one of the perks in being uncle sam's son-of-a-b!tch in the HOA also entail running your own operation condor?
12/15/07 @ 02:08
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Jeffrey mamas boy is a big time homo, and he will do anything for a blink of an eye. Butt the PIG will have his pay back time accordingly. I will guaranty it.
12/15/07 @ 02:48
Comment from: shewaju [Visitor]
oblivious means lacking remembrance.
There is no Ethiopia eritrea war in the north.WHY this guy always forget about the word proxy.I think we have to change the word proxy into procurator.Eritrea owns the war in somalia.War in the north will not benefit Ertirea.Now don`t forget,Ethiopia and Ertirea are in a full Procurator WAR.The day Ertirea declares war againest Ethiopia,The war in Somalia will stop swiftly because, there will not be Procurator.
12/15/07 @ 03:03
Comment from: Abdullahi [Visitor]
To Woyanne sympatizers and extremist Tigres;

since when did you become Ethiopians? you dismembered Ethiopa and you talk of ethiopia? i am an Ogadeni and I know what is going on in my region. you are fools. you thibnk a reputed NY times will stick with crap. I can tell you Jeffery has the list of all the people who were ordered and the evidence. cRY loud woyex. yemin chachata naw? go to hell.
12/15/07 @ 04:50
Comment from: Abdullahi [Visitor]
100% true. keep up the good and objective work gettleman. don't listen to Woayne cries.
12/15/07 @ 04:52
Comment from: safu [Visitor]
What do you expect from the white man? Their policy is to see weak African states so that they will loot world resource. By dividing us they can continue to impose their will on us. Look what they are doing in Europe and UK. They are going after every Africans to seek and make them jobless. Recently they reported that non- EU members are employed as security Officers and Europeans are not getting the job. The Security authorising organisation brought in a licensing system and all those used to behave like managers and bosses fail the exam. Guess what? They are all whites. They did not have education to read and pass an exam established by their governing body. Then the security industry went into crises. Do you know who came as a saviour? - The Africans. They passed all exams and fulfilled the criteria. So they got the job. Now, the Whiteman is jealous. They are forcing by law to prevent the Africans out. Also they are trying to relax the standard so that those failed persons go back to work. My point here is that White people are bosses and highly paid in Africa and elsewhere due to unfair system they created. Most of those white men and women roming in Africa as expertse are those who failled in their society to get a living and in Africa they are asumed as expersts.If they were subjected to fair system of assessment they will fail. So If Whiteman Campaigns against Black Country, you know that they are working to protect their current position of unfairness. The problem is that not all Africans know this truth. Whiteman is agents of destruction for black people. Be it in their own respective country or in Africa itself. Their system is based on protectionism and deception so beware. As for Ethiopian government, I think it is time to ease your looting and bad governance. 15 years is enough and you will not take the wealth to grave so please give a chance to your fellow men and women to see light in the tunnel.
Peace
12/15/07 @ 05:21
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
New York Times reporter,
we know from the begining that you are a
pathetic liar who aim is to hurt Ethiopian image. Go head lie but no one is really listing of your white propaganda. By the way how much money does shabia paying you do this kind of dirty work? I am sure not more than $ 1000 Nakfa a month.

Despite your nonsense propaganda, Ethiopia is always the winner at the help of god. Ethiopia and Ethiopia only. Ethiopia for ever. Yeha
12/15/07 @ 05:48
Comment from: Harun [Visitor]
Am I Ethiopian. Guys you killing us day and night and again you crying Ethiopia, Ethiopia, Ethiopia. What an idiot. We determined to get our independent. No matter how much it cost
12/15/07 @ 05:51
Comment from: chu [Visitor]
Berta
that is what i think too.
12/15/07 @ 09:37
Comment from: yahye [Visitor]
Woyanne criminals are a shame to Africa and to the world.:)) At a time when Africa and much of the world is distancing it self from America, Woyanne tries hard to be loyal American dog hoping to secure help of keeping Ethiopia under Tigray mafias for a long time to come.

"The Ethiopian government, one of the United States's top allies in Africa, is forcing untrained civilians - including doctors" Desperate Woyannes will do anything no matter how inhumane to stay in power.

When armed Woyanne gangs are on the streets of Addis Ababa killing civilians and students alike and when Somalia 80% in the hands of insurgents and when thousands of for mer Woyanne masters Eritreans are massed on the border and When the oppresssed Amharas, Oromos and the Ogadens got fed up of thugs terrorizing their communities and take up arms, then you know Woyanne days are numbered folks.
12/15/07 @ 09:44
Comment from: Wadani [Visitor]

I am enough old to understand the cultures and behaviors of Ethiopian ethnics, especially their reactions when they got frustrated.

As the Ogadenis,Ormos,Afars and other Ethiopian ethnics including the Tigray's themselves, we have seen the Amara oppressor regimes and yet, I don't know what to compare these Tigray PPL. They are really strange to us, the way they think, revenge, kill the innocent PPL and the way they abuse everything is really cruel.

They talk nicely publicly but they act the opposite way. Its evil way and double standard policy, it’s the whole Tigray ethnic cooperation’s crimes.
12/15/07 @ 10:36
Comment from: hussein [Visitor]
long life ogadenia long life onlf
the onlf allowed their heart and
their lungs to hit the bullet so i
hope :?: they will destroy the enemy
soon
12/15/07 @ 10:55
Comment from: Beekkaa [Visitor]
Those for you who don`t beliebve the story just go to Borana zone of oromia and see it how woyane force locals to fight WBO.This is Woyanes last trial.
12/15/07 @ 11:13
Comment from: hussein [Visitor] Email
long life onlf long life oagadenia
tthey allowed their heart and lungs
to hit the bullet:crazy:
12/15/07 @ 11:17
Comment from: D barry [Visitor]
Who gone fight for them? They have to prove it if they are ethiopian.
12/15/07 @ 11:40
Comment from: ababu [Visitor]
This anti Ethiopia idoit Jeffrey Gettleman is still getting paid for being a spokesman of the terrorist EPLF. Amazing.
12/15/07 @ 12:13
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TPLF thugs ,instead of accusing the reporter why don't you try to have an objective discussion .Nobody ,but only you ,can deny the human's right violation in the Ogaden .Spare the peoples from your useless and baseless propagandas .Because you can not have a faire discussion with no one you will better stop jamming this website by your lies and insults against the patriots . "..DJERAFF ERASU TEMATO ERASU YETCHOHALE..." LONG LIVE THE TRUE ETHIOPIOANS !!!!
12/15/07 @ 12:13
Comment from: Mohamed_Somali [Visitor]
being ogaden,we expect to defeat the wayane
in the near future in many frontlines
such as ethiopia-ereteria border dispute
,in somalia and also in ogaden region.
sytomps from frigle and tired ethiopian army army are clear evidence for distruction
and himulation of ethiopia,long life ogadenia long life onlf i wish all the
best ....... :roll:
12/15/07 @ 12:32
Comment from: ALEM [Visitor]
Jeffery, Please get some kind of life. I am urging to all Ethiopians to write a complaint letter to the NY times regarding jeffery. Ethiopans are not idot's. we know the truth.

forever Ehiopian.
12/15/07 @ 13:14
Comment from: engedab [Visitor]
Hey there! New York times are you trying to tell the Ethiopian people not to defend themselves against terrorist
Or what do you want from Ethiopia. Ethiopian government is a government by the people for the people so it it does not use its people. Leave Ethiopia alone shove ur hate full propaganda against Africa up………
12/15/07 @ 14:06
Comment from: F. Kebede [Visitor]
I am tired of these foreign journalists that are attempting to show the world that there is a genocide going on in ethiopia.these lying shemful so called journalists reporting from their offices in nairobi who never travelled to the ogaden trying to tell us that they know better than us about what is happening in our own country.the only thing they want is to be the first ones to break the bad news in europe and to win an award for the journalist of the worled.they want to give a status for ONLF as a strong army that is fighting thae army so hard that the ethiopian military have to force local people to fight them but the truth is that the ONLF is a criminal organisation that is operating illigal livestock and chat trade they have no interest in politics and about the ogaden people well being.
12/15/07 @ 14:09
Comment from: jigjigawe [Visitor]
jeffery he just posted what happening in the Ogaden and that is what everybody knew.
THANKS JEFFERY
12/15/07 @ 14:10
Comment from: mesay [Visitor]
He can dream!
Let him dream!
We stand for ourselves.
Ethiopia is a night terror for them: anti-Ethiopians
Doctors...fighting?
He does not have any idea about how many docs are there in Ogaden, 1 or 2?
The government is not angel.
We saw 193 killed on the streets.
But Jeffrey is just bought by ONLF and he was a spy for them. He is their mouth piece.
Cry hard, U will never get Ogaden.

12/15/07 @ 14:13
Comment from: Addis Lemma [Visitor]
This reporter has an ax to grind with the Ethiopian government. Anything he says should be considered a suspect. Or else, he must be a hopelessly foolish reporter. For instance has it ever crossed his mind that the so called witness, Hassan Abdi Hees, could actually be an ONLF sympathizer who was feeding him stories that bolsters the terrorist ONLF's agenda?
12/15/07 @ 16:39
Comment from: Choice [Visitor]
Yeha

Any idea where the hell Yergachefe has gone? Hope he has not been taken by Woyane Afessa.
12/15/07 @ 16:47
Comment from: AGAM [Visitor]
JEFFREY DAMMER,,,,that's why you were arrested and kicked out from ethiopia by the brave eprdf forces.They knew you were a paid agent for anti ethiopian countries the minute you crossed ethiopian land.All your articles proves why the government arrested you and the staff,simpliy you were working for the terror groups.One thing is for sure ethiopia is not a play groung for such backward journalist such as you.Ethiopia is not a country that will be defeated by lies or fabricated propaganda by journalists like you and many.
12/15/07 @ 19:02
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
Even if there were Doctors and lawyers fighting the terrorists ONLF, do you see anything wrong with that, the people of Ogaden Ethiopia are fed up with these terrorists ONLF, they are singling out individual professionals working for the Government and in private sectors are being assassinated by ONLF terrorists. This paid NY Times Arab spy Jeffrey the nazi is a paid spy and anti-Ethiopian PIG, will not stop his smear campaign against the people of Ethiopia, unless otherwise he is taken out off his spying job paid by the Ethiopian enemies, specifically by the Arabs and the Islamo-fascsts. The homo boy, Jeffrey will have his days in front of real men. He is telling the world that the Ethiopian Government is forcing the civilians to fight the terrorist ONLF. Does his lies make sense to any human being,with a labeled head on his/her neck. You can not force people to fight any one, if you do, they will turn around and join the enemy. What kind of an idiot will report such a precarious garbage lies for the world to read, except a wicked homo boy Jeffrey of NY Times. I can not believe the NY Times and his editor (if he has one) accepts such a garbage and allow it to be printed as a front page story. What a wicked Arab spy infested organization has NY Times become. Hitler is back under the name of Jeffrey Adolf Hitler and a turban on his head.
12/15/07 @ 21:17
Comment from: Nabaddon Gashade [Visitor]
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…lots of Woyanne lovers do not care about people of Ogaden!!!!!!. Mr Gettleman is telling the true 110%. I was born in Imey and verything that man said is true. You all Woyanne lovers, go and tell your crap to ONLF fighter.

You are going to hell because you supporting Woyanne regime who are raping, killing and burning villages very single day..
!!!!!!!!!! you all go to hell!!!!!!!!!!!! :>
12/15/07 @ 22:07
Comment from: 141 [Visitor]
It's hard to know what to believe anymore. Though this story is surprising, it could be in fact true. It could also be propaganda or just fabricated stories from those seeking political assylum. The fact of the matter is that free and impartial press doesn't exist in Ethiopia. I think we need a credible free and impartial press to build faith in news again.

Btw, I think we need a little more unity in our rhetoric. We need to reach out and embrace our brothers and sisters in the Ogaden. They are not ALL terrorist...
12/16/07 @ 00:52
Comment from: Ewnetu Yineger [Visitor]
Jeffery seems to have missed the point. Ethiopia doesn't have a problem of man power. It is the second most popoulus nation in Africa, next to Nigeria. Woyane knows the effectiveness of training the peasants when it comes to waging an effective war fare. Woyane can raise two hundred thousand fighters from Tigray, two hundred thousand peasants from Gondar, two hundred peasants from Wollo, two hundred thousand peasants from Gojjam, two hundrted thousand peasants from Showa, two hundred peasants from Wollega, two hundred thousand peasants from Sidamo, Bale, Gamogofa, ets. The main catch to Woyane is not man power, but logistic, finance, firearms, tanks, fighter helicopters and other warfare equipments. As it is a poor country, it can not afford to waste military equipment unless it is a matter of survival. As to man power, Ethiopia can raise a military force that can effectively engage with enemy from all its neighbors at the same time and can come out victorious. I have no the slightest doubt about it. So, I don't see the need for Ethiopia doctors to carry a fire arm to fight an insurgency that can be handled by less than two thousand army members. The only source of vulnerability for Meles is poverty because it can cause a crack from any where including from within the army itself. I am just trying to enlighten Jeffrey Gettleman about the raw facts in Ethiopia visa- vis political propaganda fed to him by ONLF cadres.
12/16/07 @ 01:23
Comment from: tom [Visitor]
Mr jeferson how do get u'r high school deploma? are u shore you took GED? it is not look like you have any education.mr did you read your article? man you better go and finish you school. It is not look like you been in the school.Mr. please try to make your fiction to make readable for the adult. Don't make under estimit your readers,other wise try to have gun and fight yourself behalf of Shaibya.
12/16/07 @ 01:53
Comment from: ye ethio lij [Visitor]
this thing is not that big thing every ethiopian have responsible to kill those ONLF by any means by any way long live ethiopia
12/16/07 @ 02:19
Comment from: jelawjelalu [Visitor]
Being aware of what EPRDF did to the peasants of North Ethiopia in 1998 during the Shabia-Woyane war, I can not say there is no truth in what is reported here. Then farmers were dragged from their farmsteads directly to temporary training tents where they were given AK 47 an military uniform. I was the part of the team who forced to check their physical fitness, and we had no choice. Most of them were in tears and never made it back to their families. As such is the true story of Meles Zenawi's regime, I don't think it will be different now. But this guy was criticising Mengistu Hailemariam for not dialoguing with Siad Barre, and now he is running wars in multiple fronts.
12/16/07 @ 05:16
Comment from: meles [Visitor]

This white Pig(Jeffery) repeatdly attack
83 million Ethiopians to get ant-Ethiopia
Arab dollers.Now he makes clear himself that,
No.1 enemy of Ethiopian.
I think it is righttime ,all Ethiopians
to remove his dirty tongue from his head.
this OUr OBLIGation to do So....
12/16/07 @ 05:57
Comment from: Dagnachew Korru. [Visitor]
What the hell bussiness does this tug called Jeffery guy had with Ethiopia and Sudan? I swear to God if Jeffery is in my area I am the first person to blow his head up. New York times please and please don't terrorize us and don't born terror.
12/16/07 @ 07:29
Comment from: geb [Visitor]
ONLF = OUTCAST NEONATAL LYNCHES FIJUTIVES/FELONIES

The government has the right to force its people to join the army as long as it is necessary for its national securities. You don’t wait until its peaceful citizens die at the hands of merciless invaders and bandits. Give me nation, on this earth, that has never used any push or force of its citizens to join the army.

The propagandists will do whatever they could to make a living and as the same time to spread their phony lies.
12/16/07 @ 13:33
Comment from: Belay Tesfaye [Visitor]
wayane and kinijit have the some propoganta. nobody stands for ethiopian people. therefore, i wish freedoom for OLF and ONLF. Distraction for Wayane and kinijit. these two poltical parts are standing only for their region not for all ethiopian people. Ethiopian people oppose both of them. OLF and ONLF shall be free!!!!!!!!!!!
12/16/07 @ 19:09
Comment from: Belay Tesfaye [Visitor]
OLF and ONLF shall be free!!!
12/16/07 @ 19:12
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
Dear fellow Ethiopians and friends of Ethiopia/Ethiopians. Please, address your concerns to the New York Times regarding Jeffery’s campaigning to smear Ethiopia and demand for facts from this man and the NYT editor. You may call public editor Clark Hoyt at 1-(212) 556-7652 or via email public@nytimes.com. You may also send your comments to the following email addresses at NYT:
The Editors
executive-editor@nytimes.com
managing-editor@nytimes.com

Be sure to include the topic “Ethiopia – Civilians are forced to fight Ethiopian rebels” {or the terrors} 12/14/2007, by Jeffery.

As we all know that the Ethiopian gov’t have no reason to force anyone to fight any war, we should stand united for anyone who attempts to smear our beloved nation. I am certain that Jeffery has his grudges against the Ethiopian gov’t and it is clear that he is attempting to tarnish Ethiopian image at the world’s stage. It’s also worthy noting that he has become great advocate of the terrorist organization ONLF who are purely trained and serving the Eritrean gov’t.

We should all demand the NYT to provide proof of such accusations and demand NYT for an apology. It’s irresponsible for NYT to release such articles and allow this reckless man Jeffery type anything he wants and fool the America people. We are certain that Ethiopia has the man power to fight all enemies in all areas and we shall never allow such low life American trash our beautiful Ethiopia. His anger against Ethiopia is clear. He traveled to Ethiopia on a tourist visa, and then met up with the terrorist group in Ogaden to conduct secret report without the Ethiopian gov’t’s authority. If he was caught doing that in Iraq he probably would considered American enemy and face military court…

Either way, we need to make sure we do not all such twisted stories go around to the American general public without checks and balances. The NYT shall be held accountable for such fabricated stories without any facts distributed to the readers…

Thank you for your support to our nation,
Z-Mike
12/16/07 @ 22:48
Comment from: Dirie [Visitor]
Hey You all xabashi highlanders cry whenever truth is written about the heinous crimes you are committing in Ogadenia. Jeffrey Gentleman is a well known journalist and well informed. He has single handedly put the atrocities in the Ogaden on the map. His report is based on facts and references from diplomats, doctors and victims. What he wrote is only a fraction of what is happening. Unlike us Ogadenis, You Abyssinians are not used to free speech and free press because you have always been oppressed by tyrants and fake emperors. We fought your previous despots like Selassie, mingistu and now Woyane. those forced to fight ONLF always take their gun and join the ONLF that is the fact. The more crimes you commit the more people will join the ONLF. Get this we wont give up until we drive you out of our Ogadenia. Full independence is the only solution.
12/17/07 @ 05:01
Comment from: Bile [Visitor]
I don't see any thing new with Jeffery's report. We, the people of Ogaden, teachers, docters, students and goverment officials fight the ONLF militia. This is not secret and no-one should be surprised. Because we are tired of this militia raoming around our cities and villages to impede roads being built and other projects, like oil exploration. Why Jeffery is trying to make this a news? The people are defending their cities from this Issia-ASS paid gangs.
12/17/07 @ 12:43
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
Well said Ghion.. what can you expect from homos.

Jeffery please get a woman and get a life
12/17/07 @ 14:13
Comment from: gentle man [Visitor]
we all know dat the almighty the great UNITED STATES is strugling to put enough boots on the ground iraq and afghanstan so if ethiopian government opened 3 different fronts mogadishu ogaden & asmara obviously that would take it is tall on the army lets be realistic the government would force some civilians to fight like it or not it is the reallity on the ground
12/17/07 @ 15:53
Comment from: Jimma [Visitor]
To Weyann Cadres,
If you don't belive New york Times, wasington post, Voa, Dw-world and so on, so for whom you belive?
12/17/07 @ 21:40
Comment from: Wadani [Visitor]
Hi Jimma,

I think the answer is bro;
They only understand the BULLET, and that is the only option that Abyssinia's understood,nothing else.

Therefore,let fight going on,since we aren't loosing anything, but that would be prevailing at end a freedom,and a true democracy.



















12/18/07 @ 11:19
Comment from: ethiopian man [Visitor]
The ONLF which is on the run from gallant ethiopian troops has come up with new unfounded stories. The ONLF propaganda couldnr make sense, are they telling us that they are running away not to hurt untrained civillians? or what, ciouldnt comprehend todays propaganda. Is the ONLF feeling sorry for the civillian fighters which lacked training or its trying to tell us that ethiopia has shortage of trained troops to sort out the mess created by Shaebiya and ONLF in our region. ki ki ki, folks we have had enough of your propaganda, Ethiopia wont make another mistake in dealing with so called "libertion fronts" who want to seceed from a united Ethiopia. Its time to reconsider our constitution. ONLF wont win the battle against Ethiopians, Ethiopians will make sure that ONLF wont have a fighting force to distablise our region. Let them use their honeymoon with Shaebiya in Asmara. the country which is hosting all regional loosers and daydreamers will expell them one day. Shebiya has betrayed Ethipian forces previously and will do so again, thats typical for an opportunist organisation like Shaebiya.
12/18/07 @ 12:05
Comment from: Rebel-man [Visitor] Email
MR. Wayane,stop crying like a liltel kidd.
the separating war is going on, the ogaden people have woken-up, bye bye Ethiopian dictatorship,

longlive ogaden and ONLF Hero
12/18/07 @ 14:52

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