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Ethiopia in Somalia: One year on

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12/28/07

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Ethiopia in Somalia: One year on

Ethiopian Troops in Somalia AFP File Photo

Ethiopia in Somalia: One year on

By Martin Plaut

BBC Africa analyst

The Ethiopian decision to invade Somalia in December 2006 altered the balance of power in the Horn of Africa.

On 28 December 2006, they helped government forces capture Islamists from the capital, Mogadishu, which they had controlled for six months.

Ethiopian forces, which had been facing Eritrea along their 1,000km border, but were otherwise confronting few security threats, are now engaged on three fronts.

The forces in Somalia are now bogged down and cannot withdraw, as Prime Minister Meles Zenawi recently acknowledged.


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38 comments

Comment from: Hiran [Visitor] Email
Ethiopia's invasion is unlikely to bring peace and order to Somalia, or to assist the transitional government to establish an effective administration. Any external force that abandons an inclusive approach and sides with one group against another, is bound to exacerbate insecurity.
It is clear that the Somali Islamists are enemies to the US but arming and supporting a dictatorial regime with the notion of supporting the enemy's enemy will not bring positive outcome to the US as well as Ethiopians... It is lunatic to think that the Ethiopian army will crush the Islamists. Instead it will raise the patriotic spirit of Somalis and even those who have had negative attitude towards Islamists will prefer to join them.

Any Somali who hates the Islamists will not necessarily like the presence of Ethiopian troops in Somalia but be compelled to join the jihadists

The Islamic Courts forces are made up of a group of clean and pure believers who wanted to bring an end to bloody chaos sustained by warlords and militia leaders. It managed to expel highway robbers and the Mafia gang. However, the US, which tore apart the unity of Somalia, overthrew its government, blew up its stability and starved its people, was not pleased with this achievement and moved in to overthrow the courts.

Ethiopia will pay high price for its interference in Somali affairs.
Disorder will prevail in Somalia, which will become a safe heaven for Islamist groups from inside and outside Somalia, with the help of the Somali people this time round.
12/28/07 @ 10:46
Comment from: Amsterdamer [Visitor]
Look at the confidence of those brave soldiers…..
We are so proud of you….

Cheers

Happy New year to all my fellow Ethiopians
12/28/07 @ 11:10
Comment from: Hiran [Visitor]
Hiran –
I think your assessment is the most accurate account I have read on this conflict. I hope Ethiopian regime understand it.
12/28/07 @ 11:30
Comment from: debebe [Visitor]
The most importnat point in the article is that -- Knox Chitiyo, head of the Africa programme at the Royal United Services Institute in London, believes the Ethiopian military position is increasingly difficult.

"The government now has daggers pointing at it from all directions," he says.

"It is facing a multi-front war with no prospect of a military victory."

THE TPLF REGIME MADE A DISASTEROUS DECISION TO INVADE SOMALIA. NOW IT HAS GOT ITSELF IN A BLOODY QUAGMIRE. SOONER OR LATER IT WILL LEAVE SOMALIA DEFEATED AND HUMILATED.
12/28/07 @ 11:36
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
ET is the peace make in African and most Africans apperciate that. ET will build peace in Somalia and ERI and free the people who are terorizing the citizens of the region. let us build peace and unity:D
12/28/07 @ 11:47
Comment from: F.Kebede [Visitor]
Typical of the BBC reporting they do everything to show the situation in somalia is the same as in iraq .but that is not true and I will put the reasons below 1.the reason america and briton gave to invade iraq is false and saddams government was no threat to them 2.in somalia the UIC was a clear threat to ethiopia they threatend war on ethiopia from the start they invaited all enemies of ethiopia to somalia like the ONLF, OLF, and the Eritrean army 3.unlike america and briton in iraq ethiopia didnt invade somalia but invaited by the only recognised government of somalia for 16 years. so the mission of the BBC and other weastern media is not to report the truth about Somalia but to see same thing in iraq happening in somalia ,like bombings every day thousends of somalians diying.recently reported that 600,000 somalians left mokadisho because of fighting but .if 600,000 people left mokadish there will only be around few thousend people living in mokadisho.We have to remember that for them we are inferior Africans who cant achive peace and progress on our own .
12/28/07 @ 12:31
Comment from: ETHIO-SOMALI [Visitor]
IF THE SOMALI PEOPLE......WETHER THEY ARE IN SOMALIA...SOMALILAND.....DJIBOUTI....OR THE SOMALI REGION OF ETHIOPIA, WERE UNITED,THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ETHIOPIAN TROOPS IN MOGADISHU AT ALL.....
THE SOMALI PEOPLE NEED TO UNITE IN ALL THESE REGIONS TO BE UNITED AS ONE.....BECAUSE WETHER THEY ARE IN SOMALIA...SOMALILAND.....DJIBOUTI....OR THE SOMALI REGION OF ETHIOPIA......THEY ALL SHARE THE SAME LANGUAGE....SAME RELIGION.....SAME CULTURE....AND SAME BLOOD....
12/28/07 @ 13:07
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
For get about one year long, Ethiopia can stay 100 years if Ethiopia decided to. Yeha
12/28/07 @ 13:41
Comment from: nadiazeki [Visitor]
Facts:

#1.

"The EEBC has officially presented the final document of the maps to all the concerned parties, including the UN Cartographic Unit"

2.

"Invasion would be a mistake" and "Somalia would become "Ethiopia's Iraq." General John Abizaid
12/28/07 @ 14:12
Comment from: yahye [Visitor]
The days of the TPFL gangs are numbered not only in Somalia but also in Ethiopia.:))
12/28/07 @ 14:31
Comment from: Hillu [Visitor]

Just pray!
12/28/07 @ 15:07
Comment from: SUCCESS [Visitor]
=>=> I called it SUCCESS!!:!::>>
12/28/07 @ 16:23
Comment from: SUCCESS [Visitor]
:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea: Look at those Troops! They are huge and well feed:!:=>:>> They are capable to take any asignment!
12/28/07 @ 16:24
Comment from: Aba Tigist [Visitor]
Hiran,

It bothers me to see a writing of concern with no alternative suggestions. Ethiopia's aim is stabilization. The Islamists aim is to get back to power at all costs. The writer said Somalis must creat a situation for Ethiopian military to leave. That is creat peace and stability amongst themselves. But This is not the aim of the terrorists (Jihadists). Remember a Jihad was declared on Ethiopia just before Ethiopia went into Somalia.

By the way Mogadishu is not as bad as every body wants you to believe. Of the 16 districs only 4 are infested with terrorists. Ethiopia could take care of those when the time comes. What the terrorists respect is strength, and Ethiopia is strong, and they will be forced to respect it.

Question is would the Islamists negotiate with the transitional government once Ethiopia leaves? probably not. Remember after Ethiopia withdrew 2/3 of its forces afte the initial invation, the Islamists attacked the remaining Ethiopian troops and the transitonal government. So please be careful and listen to the silent majority of somalis. Most do not want the return of UIC, But they also want peace and stability without Ethiopia. The ball is in Somali hands to create the situation for Ethiopian withdrawal. Ethiopia is a catalyst for peace.
12/28/07 @ 16:36
Comment from: ETHIO-SOMALI [Visitor]
there will not be stability in the HORN of africa as long as
theres: tribalism........SOMALIS....AMHARAS...OROMOS....TIGRAYS.TIGRINYA.....HARARIS....GURAGES...AFARS....SIDAMOS....
ETC....ETC...NEED TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE A EUROPEAN UNION...A UNITED HORN OF AFRICA.......
12/28/07 @ 17:06
Comment from: ETHIO-SOMALI [Visitor]
there will not be stability in the HORN of africa as long as
theres: tribalism........SOMALIS....AMHARAS...OROMOS....TIGRAYS.
.....HARARIS....GURAGES...AFARS....SIDAMOS....
ETC....ETC...NEED TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE A EUROPEAN UNION...A UNITED HORN OF AFRICA.......
12/28/07 @ 17:07
Comment from: Aba Tigist [Visitor]
Ethio_Somali,

Thanks. That is what I mean by alternative solution to a problem, whether it works or not. Name calling alone will not produce a solution. The horn of Africa can and will solve its problems, and they are many.
12/28/07 @ 18:00
Comment from: Rasal [Visitor]
Eritrean President said one from now that Ethiopia is will be in a quagmire. His prediction was absolutely correct because he might know the mentality of EPRDF leaders more then any body else
12/28/07 @ 18:58
Comment from: Rasal [Visitor]
Eritrean President said one from now that Ethiopia will be in a quagmire by its invasion in Somalia. His prediction was absolutely correct because he might know the mentality of EPRDF leaders more then any body else
12/28/07 @ 18:59
Comment from: Rasal [Visitor]
Eritrean President said one from now that Ethiopia will be in a quagmire by its invasion in Somalia. His prediction was absolutely correct because he might know the mentality of EPRDF leaders more then any body else
12/28/07 @ 19:00
Comment from: AGAM [Visitor]
Ethiopia had said it many time she will withdraw when ever the time is right.Meanwhile most medias are working hard for ethiopia to fail in somalia.All these so called media never had care somalians suffering in the last 20 years,when thousands were daying a week. Now thanks to the brave eprdf somalians worthy of media reporting.I wish somalians and thier country the best.
12/28/07 @ 20:20
Comment from: 141 [Visitor]
Despite the pride and fierce independence of Somalis, this country is unfortunately a disaster. It's unfortunate because Mogadisho used to be a beautiful city with tremendous trading potential.The perfect example of total anarchy, Ethiopians can learn much from it. Tribalism, greed, and the unwillingness to be civil has plauged Somalia for decades.

Ethiopia should focus on building its economic base, developing democratic institutions, and at the same time strengthing its military for defense purposes. Clanism or tribalism is a zero sum game.

Love thy countrymen
12/28/07 @ 23:30
Comment from: Death to Weyane supporter [Visitor]
"It is facing a multi-front war with no prospect of a military victory." When the shaebia bullet start barking that will be the end of Weyane. Isayas is playing the game...the smartest president in Africa. He is fighting the Weyane regime in different direction. Weyane is almost falling down, it is a good news to Ethiopia(not included Tigray) and Eritrea.
12/28/07 @ 23:46
Comment from: smart [Visitor]
Invading a country and throwing a way the lives of young Ethiopian men and women to save one of the worst and incompetent dictators who is dispised by his own people is grave miscalculation.Don't tell me the Jihadist wanted to attack. It is a lame excuse that cannot fill a basket.
Bring our boys and girls home.
If at all we need to fight, it should be to get back Asseb not Badme.

Smart.
12/28/07 @ 23:57
Comment from: Daniel Tekle [Visitor]
Part of what I find disturbing whenever I read the news at Nazret.com, and scroll down to read other people's reaction is that some of the people in this form have confused Nationalism with BLIND SUPPORT to EPRDF/Woyane.

You can love Ethiopia & Ethiopians and be critical of EPRDF's decisions. That is patriotic!

Hiran, I found your feedback right on the money!

Clearly, a mistake was made. A mistake with ramifications beyond our imagination; only time will show us what the price will be to Ethiopia. And thats what pains me. Long after EPRDF disappears, the ordinary people of Ethiopia, will suffer even though they were victims themselves.

Can you imagine an angry Somali who might blow himself us in Merkato or a busy place in Addis becuase he lost his family as a result of this stupid war? I hope not but it is within the realm of possibilities.


If you have a hard time imagining how this could be, lets take a lesson from HISTORY:

When His Excellency/highness, anexed Eritrea into Ethiopia in the late 1940s, early 1950s, 10 years later his decision/actions sparked a 30 year armed struggle for Independence.
NOBODY, NOBODY saw that coming. In the process MILLIONS of our habesha family perished due to war and starvation/drought that was partly caused by disproptionate budget allocation to the war effort in the north instead of saving/planning for dry seasons.

Z-Mike and others with similar opinion, lets not confuse love of country/patriotism with loving EPRDF.
Remember, Woyane will leave office one day (through force or peaceful means) just as THE GREAT Haile Selasie, King of all Kings, ended his term and just as Megistu was forced out.
It is ok to be critical, it would be refreshing to read different comments from people like your selves. After all, even Meles said he made a mistake.
Daniel Tekle
12/29/07 @ 01:25
Comment from: somali [Visitor] Email
The ethiopian scavengers invaded somalia after it was leeding for 17 years. every ethipiopia knows that what happened is beyond imposibility, if there were somali gov. however, somalia is still too big to be swallowed by a country like ethiopia. we will drive you out of somalia. we will restore the somali degnity by coming to your cities. theit is a matter of time. you know that we have the worior nature and what it takes to do that. we have proved this reality for centuries; even before Ahmad guray. somalis will never forget the ugly crime that you commited in mogadhisho. somalis are one people the misunderstanding can can disapear any time. we have a better chance of destroying ethiopia. because, you are soo many and different. finally, every dog has a day enjoy your day and somalis will have thiers. you may think it won't happen but it will happen. remember that.

thank you for reading.
12/29/07 @ 04:07
Comment from: somali [Visitor] Email
The ethiopian scavengers invaded somalia after it was bleeding for 17 years. every ethipiopian knows that what happened is beyond imposibility, if there were somali gov. however, somalia is still too big to be swallowed by a country like ethiopia. we will drive you out of somalia. we will restore the somali degnity by coming to your cities. that is a matter of time. you know that we have the worior nature and what it takes to do that. we have proved this reality for centuries; even before Ahmad guray. somalis will never forget the ugly crime that you commited in mogadhisho. somalis are one people the misunderstanding can disapear any time. we have a better chance of destroying ethiopia. because, you are soo many and different. finally, every dog has a day enjoy your day and somalis will have thiers. you may think it won't happen but it will happen. remember that.

thank you for reading.
12/29/07 @ 04:27
Comment from: Ghion [Visitor]
No matter how many times you islam o-fascist degenerate morons supporters of terrorism, repeat ge- zillion of times, whatever some western based lunatic institutions says, the Ethiopian government did not simply jump in to Somalia, with no long range plan, for no cause and apparent reason. If the Somalia ICU including the terrorist leader shik Aweys were interested in controlling Somalia and lead it in to a viable state. where did the declaration of Jihad against my country Ethiopia come from?, was shik Aweys ordered by Issay-ASS or Mulla Omar out of Tora-Bora terrains of Afghanistan?. A terrorist is always a terrorist, a coward, a random killer, who has no respect for the innocent men, women, children, for the young and old. The bloody terrorist shik Aweys thought he was going to get away with his jihad treat against Ethiopia, what a mistake! He can only blame his other terrorist brother Issay-ASS, for his mishap, in which he is paying for it now. The wicked socialist whim out of London knows nothing about the ancient Ethiopian civilization and therefore advice her to stay tune, for what Ethiopians are to teach a lessons of life time, to those butchers and terrorists, including her self, to place Ethiopians on her record,as a history making nation for man kind, since over three thousand years ago, hoping for her to be honest and not to exchange the history of Ethiopia in to the United Kingdom, as her forefathers did.
12/29/07 @ 08:08
Comment from: Abdikadir M. Salah [Visitor] Email
Aba tigist
supriseful and dull you are.
firstly, you said the aim of Eithopia is stabilization, Ridicolous,
we judge the people their deeds and not
on heresay, the majority of somalis
equals this as India requested to stabilize Pakistan. Believable.

secondly, and moreworse, you are Linkng your
withdrawl to May stability. suprisefull.

Let me remind you this was the question
between israel and Hisballah ( Lebonans'
resistance Malitia) since the occupation of Southern Lebonan.

the result the efficacy of the israels
would end, and humilated israeils didnt e
even had a chance to withdraw with their
bags.

you should learn history and learn its cri
critical junctures.

thirdly, you said the terrorists respect
force ( you seem to be bousting the aroured
tanks and the heavy weopons).

let me remind you (the more you depend on
heavy weopons the more you loss)it is
natural, when the great armed ( but empted
morally Soviet Union)Lasted.

Marx and Stalin would have been amused, hadn't the course of history brought
undesird results.

back in Lebonan, the Most mornized army
in the Meddle east ( Israel)was humilated
upon its failure to reach its Preetermined
targets, that is to Isolate Hisballah
and destroy its capabilities.


yes Lebonan was destroyed by Israel and that
that is not Positive for Israel, the Loss of
of the International and Public opinion could have been widely felt.

yes you destroy Mogdishu, "the Worst Human
Displacement any ware in the World - 2007" UN reports.
but that is not victory
victory will and still remains to be seen.

thanks your reading

abdikadir
Garowe, Puntland State. Somali





history brought undesire


































































12/29/07 @ 13:25
Comment from: ron [Visitor]
Comment from: Daniel Tekle [Visitor]
Part of what I find disturbing whenever I read the news at Nazret.com, and scroll down to read other people's reaction is that some of the people in this form have confused Nationalism with BLIND SUPPORT to EPRDF/Woyane.
TO DANIEL :I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSED HERE . ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Most opposition supporters confused as what their role is as an oppositon party. Thier hate to the leaders of ethiopia is unbelivably so much they side with our arch enemies eritrea,onlf and icu. They even celebrate when ethiopian dead soldier was dragged in the streets of mogadisho by savagers. so get the realty straight unless you are one of them.
12/29/07 @ 13:58
Comment from: Abdu Yimam [Visitor]
The prophet Mohammad said in his version of the Quran, don't wage war against the Ethioians. You muslim somalis overrun his Holy words and messing with Ethiopia and your fate is now his curse. What is not you can't understand then, Somalia, 100% muslims, One language, one culture divided into clans and went anarchy? Tell me this is not a curse!

Respect the abyssinians and then you will live peacefully.

Peace to all
12/29/07 @ 15:06
Comment from: philly [Visitor]
ron

what are you smoking banda, get your brain checked.

daniel tekle

good comment bro. you always make decent argument and its nice to read. keep up the good job

z-mike and other woyane agents

you better apply for a another job, your days in power are almost over. you're wanted by many people tick tack tick tack
12/29/07 @ 16:27
Comment from: 141 [Visitor]
I think both "Daniel Tekle" and "Ron" are both correct above. I interpret this to mean the same thing. People should not commit blind support to one party because of either ethnic allegiance or hatred for the opposition. Like in the US, the reality is that most people really are moderate inside. Let's remember this when discussing issues. There is no reason why we can't 1) respect each other and 2) concede to another view once in a while. In the end, we are more alike than different. This has been the trap that Somalia has fallen into.

To my angry bretheren "somali [Visitor" violence begets violence, my friend. It's a vicious cycle with peace being the only way out.

peace
12/29/07 @ 17:18
Comment from: ron [Visitor]
To philly: well , well ,well! so how is life in the north ? hhh? you cocoroch . Askaris then , now cloned rats.you guys want a bite from every body throgh ak47-yemen,sudan,dijubouti,ethiopia and now somalia. why dont you just work on the african tiger you claimed your desert country is going to be ( when was that ? ~20 years ago)? .SO PLEASE SAVE YOUR BULSHIT WE HEARED FOR THE LAST 30+20 YEARS . Here is from one of your own mouth(source:the reporter):
Can you give me a picture of what life looks like in Eritrea now?
As a journalist, you know the situation in North Korea. Eritrea is Africa's North Korea. The people start to line up in front of bakeries beginning from 4:00 am every day. Sugar and other items are rationed. Sometimes, when some youngsters flee the country, the government takes away that ration card from the family. This is how harsh the government is.

We cannot speak about anything in terms of people's rights. Nobody gives attention to the people's plight there because there is little or no viable interest which other countries want to pursue in Eritrea. There is no one to care for the people.

Some NGOs at some time tried to give assistance to the people. But before long, Esayas suspended their operations. So outsiders have no idea of what's going on inside Eritrea. But youngsters are flocking to the Sudan and Shemelbal in Ethiopia refuge camp in the thousands. On average around 250 people flee to Khartoum every day. The situation is tragic.

Even the UN has not given the Eritrean refugees their due attention. It even doesn't fulfill their basic rights as refugees.



I honestly believe that if the Ethiopian people have any idea of the scourge that has befallen the people of Eritrea, they would start a struggle to free them.
12/29/07 @ 17:43
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
Daniel Tekle,
Whose side are you on? One day you’re American and another day you are acting Ethiopian but you’re Eritrean… Or at least your mother is Eritrean and your father {you claimed is Ethiopian}. To me, you’re one hell of confused individual who seem to be lost in the open air. Figure out who you real are and return to this forum to discuss your views with us. I remember when Eritreans where asked in 2000 where they’re from and they all said the something… they all said “I don’t know but my father knows”. Those are the days when Eritreans started getting deported. PHILLY has joined you in the attack so good luck to both of you. Remember, Ethiopia is beautiful without Eritreans. You get what you asked for and we are now building our nation without doubt. Mind your business and we are fine without Eritrea. We give no chances to the enemy of our nation and people or we’ll not be fooled by those who are actors mixed with our population…

Thanks to our brave arm forces that has scarified their lives to our nation and assisted the Somalis people. This is the month to that should be dedicated to our military for their bravery. The EPRDF lead gov’t will continue to fight poverty, HIV-AIDS, strengthen democracy, educate our youth and build our national armed forces to safeguard Ethiopia. ONLF, SHAEBIA, UIC and any other ET enemies will have no place in our nation to terrorize our citizens.

Z-Mike
12/29/07 @ 20:30
Comment from: muj [Visitor]
mutfaqen disaster , yankee puppet jidy frazer caused wit bush sayso. Bhutto also ordered kill in same frenzy of anti coloured sane self determination. If somalia sorted itself out why us fk it up? Khat is ilegal in us but they help reverse situation on ground equals enforce it. But inprison people for sell in their own country like dog fidgt in afghan 1 rule for us savagery and 1 rule for them debauchery. I say christian muslim any religion come to be humane and decent and fight corruption and murder(legalised war0 AND EWWE WILL DEFEAT SATAN AND WIN HEAVEN ON EATH. 1DAY WE GOT THE POWER AND GLORY AND WE CAN WIN PEACE,AND LOVE.
12/29/07 @ 20:51
Comment from: somali_soulja [Visitor]
god bless the ethiopian lions who are their to help their brothers out.take it easy guys you cant compare somalis with ethiopians we are the same we are warriors the one who recisted the western world.the only way the western world could in somali and eritrea was to use divide and rule strategy even when we wer fighting against each other we kicked them out. its true when malcom x said tell me where the white men is winning on the ground nowhere.open your eyes brothers and sisters and know your history and your enemy nobody can defeat opress the childeren of israel.thats why the us is happy if 2 strong brothers fight and when that happends nobody wins the one who are suffering are only africans. today is the day of the ethiopian regime tommorow somalia you seen nobody wins only brothers are suffering.as we are in 2000 lets use our brain and our knowlegde and dont forget what our prophets kings fore parents teaches us. i tell you if you recognise yourself as a king/son of a god their is nobody that can do you shit thats why you must keep your culture and the importants thing know your history and your enemy.2000 years later and still we stay god bless abbyysinia. and stay away from politcians they are the once that di divide us.the reason why most somalis were hating on ethiopia was cuss of the progada machine of siyaad barre like hitler brainwashed the germans to hate the jews.but dont worry alot of somalis are realising that ethiopians are our only brothers and friends left on the world. thank you for alouding the somali refugees in your country thank you for standing with us against arab supporters.now i have said egypt and arab states want to destroy ethiopia so my somali brothers lets stand with ethiopia cuss blood is thicker than water.lets bring for a suprise move attack that once again will shock the world like the brave ethiopian warriors defeated the italians i tell you god is with us and ethiopia will strech here hands and reach the world its already writter. the only thing we need is the ppl.imigane somalis eritreans united with abbyysinia their is nobody that can do shit to us.i can not hate the beautiful holy country ethiopia cuss of meles zenawi namean nationalisme and gods country is where i will fight for when enemies invade ethiopia.good to see the unity here nazareth keep doing your thing.
12/29/07 @ 20:57
Comment from: tfg_supporter [Visitor]
ethiopia need to stay.they are like angels evry country they met they brought peace i believe they are really chosen by god.iiits also a wonder how the brave ethio troops could march to muqadisho nobody thaught that ethiopians didnt had the power to do it but they did as they have defeated all their enemies.

somalia is not iraq.ethiopians are wlc and we understand each other since we speak the same leanguege we look the same etc.17 years later and we have finnaly a powerfull goverment and that all thanks to great ethiopia.

tikdem somalia tikdem ethiopia


god bless the lion meles zenawi
12/29/07 @ 22:42

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