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Ethiopian children exploited by US adoption agencies
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Ethiopian children exploited by US adoption agencies
An Ethiopian mother recounts the grief of having no information about her adopted child. (Foreign Correspondent)
Ethiopian children exploited by US adoption agencies
Source: The Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Heartbreak in Ethiopia
ABC
By Mary Ann Jolley for Foreign Correspondent
Sit for any time in the foyer of the Hilton Hotel in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, and you'll see a procession of Americans and Europeans wandering from their rooms across the marble floor to the restaurant or swimming pool with their precious new possessions - babies or infants they've just adopted.
I'd never really thought a great deal about international adoption until I was confronted with the scene as I checked into the hotel in September last year.
I'd arrived to film a story for ABC TV's Foreign Correspondent program about the drought-induced famine.
The longer I stayed, the more I started to think about the adopted children - where they were from and how they must feel to suddenly find themselves alone with someone whose skin colour doesn't match theirs and whose language they don't speak.
They're dressed in alien attire - a brand new Red Sox baseball cap and T-shirt with some cute and cheery foreign slogan plastered across the front - and in an environment like none they've ever seen, when just out on the street is the one they know so well, where their extended family and fellow countrymen reside.
There was something incredibly disturbing about seeing international adoption en masse. All these children about to leave their country to begin a new life in a faraway place, disconnected from their heritage and culture.
Out on the street where poverty and hardship prevail, my attitude softened. While I was filming at the produce market in Addis Ababa a little urchin appeared beside me.
She had short hair and was wearing a torn, faded dress with sash tails hanging loosely from the waist at both sides, and shoes with no laces.
Her toes exposed where the leather had worn through. She would have been about nine or 10, but she was already working; her job was to sweep up the rubbish in the markets.
"Miss," she said, "Americana?"
"No." I nodded with a smile as I rushed off to catch up with the crew.
"Where are you from?" She was at my side again.
"Australia," I replied, thinking in my ignorance that her next question would be, "Where's Australia?" But, no, she knew it was the land of the kangaroos and wanted to know if I could take her back so she could go to school.
"I would love to," I said, impressed by her request. "But unfortunately I can't." I was hoping, I must admit, that would be enough to send her and her friends back to work, but she persisted.
"Do you have any pens for me?"
"Sorry, I don't," I replied, quite surprised she was asking for pens and not, as is usually the case, money.
"What about paper? Do you have any paper for me for school?"
I didn't have anything on me because I'd been told to leave my bag in the car to avoid pickpockets. I felt terrible that I couldn't help her.
Here was this child desperate to write and learn, but instead of being at school she was dragging rotten fruit and vegetables from the mud and slush between the stalls.
What obvious potential she had. Imagine what she could achieve if I could take her back to school in Australia. Perhaps adoption is the answer, I thought to myself.
But that was an emotional reaction. It would be almost a year before I would have the chance to dwell seriously on the subject. In July I was on a plane heading back.
Seedy underbelly
Ethiopia is not a signatory to the Hague Convention, which requires international adoptions be used only as a last resort after all domestic adoption options have been exhausted.
There is overwhelming evidence to prove it is far better for a child to remain with its family or, if that's not possible, with another family in his or her own country than to be shipped off overseas. But in Ethiopia today it seems it's not about what's best for the child, but rather meeting the demand of foreigners wanting a child.
There are more than 70 private international adoption agencies operating in Ethiopia. None of them are Australian. In Australia, international adoptions are a Government affair and strict regulations help to keep the process transparent. Almost half the agencies in Ethiopia are unregistered, some doing whatever they can to find children to satisfy the foreign market.
While there are more than 5 million legitimate orphans in Ethiopia, a large proportion of these will never be considered for international adoptions.
Foreigners prefer younger children - babies to five-year-olds. Older children or those with health problems are more difficult to pitch. So while many children languish in underfunded and overcrowded orphanages, some international adoption agencies are out spruiking in villages asking families to relinquish their children for adoption.
It's a phenomenon known as "harvesting" and it's shocking to see.
A DVD sent to families wanting to adopt by an American adoption agency, Christian World Adoption, shows one of the agency's workers in full flight surrounded by families and children in a remote community in the south of the country, where the vast majority are evangelical Christians.
"If you want your child to go to a Christian American family, you may stay. If you don't want your child to go to America, you should take your child away," she says.
The DVD goes on for some hours with the woman introducing each child offered for adoption one at a time. They sit on a bench in between her and their parents or guardians.
"Here are two brothers, but only one is available at the moment," she says for one family. For the next she tells how "it's very hard for a widow to care for her children in this culture".
"Oh no, you mustn't pick your nose," she says to a child. She then points out a rash on another's face and reassures the viewer it isn't permanent and that it can be healed with treatment. All children are asked to sing the alphabet song made famous on Sesame Street. It reeks of a new colonialism. It's hard to believe it's happening in the 21st century.
Parents are often unaware of what they're doing when they offer their children for adoption. They're led to believe they'll hear from their children regularly and their children will be well educated and eventually bring the family wealth.
But in reality, the parents and families never hear from their children and receive little information about where their children have gone. We filmed a room full of grieving mothers who gave their children for adoption after agencies promised they'd be given regular updates.
Some were even told the agency would help support their remaining children. Their stories are gut-wrenching.
No one disputes there is a real need for international adoptions, but for the sake of the children and adoptive parents there needs to be some protection from unscrupulous agencies who purport to be driven by humanitarian interests, but in reality are stuffing their pockets with dirty cash.
-Watch Foreign Correspondent on ABC1 at 8pm tonight. Read the full version of A Heartbreaking Assignment at www.abc.net.au/foreign.
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120 comments
Comment from: Tsiyon [Visitor]
Most parents give there child willingly.
The true story is actually, it is the ppl that agrees to adopt the children that get misinformed and in so many occuasions they have been talled the toddlers real-parents are no more alive.
I actually think that it is an opportunity for the children to live up to their potential.
Had this not been the case, it is highly likely that the children would have end up in the street of addis after a while.
This so called real-parents are not actually worried much about their children. What all they need is some mony for themselves and they won't give a dame about the condition of there child. The are even wiling to give their child for hard labour as long as they get little money in return.
The true story is actually, it is the ppl that agrees to adopt the children that get misinformed and in so many occuasions they have been talled the toddlers real-parents are no more alive.
I actually think that it is an opportunity for the children to live up to their potential.
Had this not been the case, it is highly likely that the children would have end up in the street of addis after a while.
This so called real-parents are not actually worried much about their children. What all they need is some mony for themselves and they won't give a dame about the condition of there child. The are even wiling to give their child for hard labour as long as they get little money in return.
09/14/09 @ 23:20
Comment from: Abyot [Visitor]
Ethiopians have been saying this for years, Woyane is selling our children to the highest bidder.
My beef is with Woyane not the Americans or westerners who are opening their home and heart to welcome what they thought are orphans. As the article articulates it, international adoption should be the very last resort, but unfortunately it has become a cash cow for those involved in the business.
And my sources in Addis tell me that, Woyanes are big time playas in the adoption business and the government is turning a blind eye to the whole situation.
I am hopeful this report will help in stopping these illegitimate adoptions.
Most of the adopting parents from America are in Ethiopia with good intentions, it is the adoption agencies who are gaming the system for a quick profit. And Woyanes are sleep at the switch once again, not doing their responsibility, which is regulating.
My beef is with Woyane not the Americans or westerners who are opening their home and heart to welcome what they thought are orphans. As the article articulates it, international adoption should be the very last resort, but unfortunately it has become a cash cow for those involved in the business.
And my sources in Addis tell me that, Woyanes are big time playas in the adoption business and the government is turning a blind eye to the whole situation.
I am hopeful this report will help in stopping these illegitimate adoptions.
Most of the adopting parents from America are in Ethiopia with good intentions, it is the adoption agencies who are gaming the system for a quick profit. And Woyanes are sleep at the switch once again, not doing their responsibility, which is regulating.
09/14/09 @ 23:33
Comment from: Disappointed [Visitor]
Is this the so called Developnent in Ethiopia which the useless Meles is has been deafening our ears?
I pray God eliminate this beggar man?
09/15/09 @ 00:22
Comment from: lebona [Visitor]
Tsiyon,
What planet are you from? Would YOU give your children up for some money? Do YOU KNOW anybody who has done that? Would it be fair to conclude from your remarks that you are one of those people who works for those "adoption" agancies?
What planet are you from? Would YOU give your children up for some money? Do YOU KNOW anybody who has done that? Would it be fair to conclude from your remarks that you are one of those people who works for those "adoption" agancies?
09/15/09 @ 00:39
Comment from: kibrom [Visitor]
I am very sorry, every thing is for sale now in the land of weyane! Land, women, babies......
09/15/09 @ 00:51
Comment from: ababiya [Visitor]
"yeferin mender ahiya yiworewal" our father died for us and the land they left for us. Now, we the adults could not even cry to save the children from dog bit. i don't blame no one but my self because i am not any better than a dog. Woyane is better than me.
09/15/09 @ 00:59
Comment from: lij [Visitor]
These children my survive the West physically but psychologically, they are a mess. Poverty is not of money alone, it can be of spirit as well. Poor and dignified with a history and a community is better than rich and empty inside and that is what they will get. It is difficult to develop a strong sense of self for a balck person in the West. There is what is called institutionalized structure that works against a person of dark skin.
09/15/09 @ 01:33
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
I live in Australia and everytime I see an adopted Ethiopian kid, my heart wants to pop out of me and tears hang in to my eyes. Not only for those with whites parents, but even for those Ethiopian kids with parents with little education or none.
For those of us who grow up even in Ethiopia with some sort of identity, life is not easy. Let alone for those kids who are growing up with parents of diffrent colour. Do not get me wrong, their might have adopted kids for one or another reason. In most cases it might be a helping...but I wander what kind of kids will they be. If you ask any Ethiopian about their own kids...they even have a nightmares what their children's life will be.
Some Ethiopians kids even growing up here are not having a happy ending their parents dreamed of. In a very fast moving and cofusing world, some of them are having mental problems one way or another. some of the reason might be school yard bullying or not able to mix with other kids...part of it might be the social skill parents may need to teach their children..say even helping them with school work is not upto scratch...as they have little or no education.
I could write a book on the challenges of children wether they are adopted as child or came as an adult. I have even mate people who ae still struggling after coming here through scholarship, skilled migrants and to work...The challenge is real and I think governments needs to work through these challenges.
I am really thankfull Marry Ann Jolley..to bring this to light. The picture you put above speaks a thousand words and every ethiopian who is going to read your article knows, what you are going to write by just looking the title and the heart breaking picture.
Anyway, I have to stop here for now...and will see what others say. But for those of you like Abyot...stop your politics this is a serious matter. These are mothers who are crying day in and day out with guilt for giving up their children. Please be reminded adopted children might read this or their parents.
Bye for now
For those of us who grow up even in Ethiopia with some sort of identity, life is not easy. Let alone for those kids who are growing up with parents of diffrent colour. Do not get me wrong, their might have adopted kids for one or another reason. In most cases it might be a helping...but I wander what kind of kids will they be. If you ask any Ethiopian about their own kids...they even have a nightmares what their children's life will be.
Some Ethiopians kids even growing up here are not having a happy ending their parents dreamed of. In a very fast moving and cofusing world, some of them are having mental problems one way or another. some of the reason might be school yard bullying or not able to mix with other kids...part of it might be the social skill parents may need to teach their children..say even helping them with school work is not upto scratch...as they have little or no education.
I could write a book on the challenges of children wether they are adopted as child or came as an adult. I have even mate people who ae still struggling after coming here through scholarship, skilled migrants and to work...The challenge is real and I think governments needs to work through these challenges.
I am really thankfull Marry Ann Jolley..to bring this to light. The picture you put above speaks a thousand words and every ethiopian who is going to read your article knows, what you are going to write by just looking the title and the heart breaking picture.
Anyway, I have to stop here for now...and will see what others say. But for those of you like Abyot...stop your politics this is a serious matter. These are mothers who are crying day in and day out with guilt for giving up their children. Please be reminded adopted children might read this or their parents.
Bye for now
09/15/09 @ 02:40
Comment from: Melekottesema [Visitor] 
Yes, it's true. This is one of the situations where government needs to step in and do something about those Agencies who are dishonest, for the sake of a child.
However, let’s face it. For as long as I can remember, I do not know any well to do people in Ethiopia who are adopting orphans and raise them for a better future. That experience has not been widely practiced in Ethiopia.
But,I am not saying that there are no people with enough resources who are adopting and help orphans in Ethiopia. I am sure there are a few of them.
Although, let’s not forget the harsh reality of what most of those Orphans go through when they are placed in people’s homes in Ethiopia. From my experience,if people take in an Orphan in Ethiopia,most likely than not she or he's will end up being a maid or a house server for the rest of their lives. Therefore, the statement that states “Domestic adoption should be considered first” really does not make sense to me at all.
Even if people are adopting in Ethiopia, it’s not like there's going to be a shortage of orphans for foreigners to go around.
But again, it’s the government that has to regulate these things, so the door for those deceitful agencies would be narrowed.
However, let’s face it. For as long as I can remember, I do not know any well to do people in Ethiopia who are adopting orphans and raise them for a better future. That experience has not been widely practiced in Ethiopia.
But,I am not saying that there are no people with enough resources who are adopting and help orphans in Ethiopia. I am sure there are a few of them.
Although, let’s not forget the harsh reality of what most of those Orphans go through when they are placed in people’s homes in Ethiopia. From my experience,if people take in an Orphan in Ethiopia,most likely than not she or he's will end up being a maid or a house server for the rest of their lives. Therefore, the statement that states “Domestic adoption should be considered first” really does not make sense to me at all.
Even if people are adopting in Ethiopia, it’s not like there's going to be a shortage of orphans for foreigners to go around.
But again, it’s the government that has to regulate these things, so the door for those deceitful agencies would be narrowed.
09/15/09 @ 03:00
Comment from: wer [Visitor]
THE TYRANT GOVERNMENT FAILED TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS...IT FAILED TO PROTECT CHILDREN...IT JUST FAILED US, IT FAILED ETHIOPIA AND ITS CHILDREN
09/15/09 @ 03:35
Comment from: Tadele [Visitor]
No body sells your children,if you don't have any clue about having a child, even most animals make their offspring self sufficient before having another one, who gonna raise your six or more babies eventhough you can't afford one ? Meles ? If you don't manage your own life, you will be the source of misery for your own children, not the government.
09/15/09 @ 03:53
Comment from: birhan [Visitor]
Thanks a million MARY, for telling the truth with good narration. FOR TPLF EVERYTHING IS FOR SELL: LAND, CHILDREN,YOUNG GIRLS. SELLING WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO IT AND BEGGING IN ITS OWN AND ON THE NAME OF OTHERS IS TPLF'S ART.
09/15/09 @ 04:02
Comment from: Mamo Gada [Visitor]
Mamo Gada
Mary Ann Jolley should be a screen writer rather than a journalist; she invented a story out of something that is not news worse. Western corporate media exploits the world poorest individuals with no regard to their individual dignity and self respect. They travel any where in African and record and/or take horrific pictures that will eventually land in the front page of every major newspaper and news media. Yes there is little truth to her reporting, but most of it is exaggeration and theatrical creative writing that is very typical in contemporary English literature which seems to stick with her from journalism school days. The uncomfortable truth is that we all are playing in the global capitalism system and the “Race to the Bottom” is inevitable. This is true in child adaptation, journalism, and it is also true when the global corporate takes over the poor farmers singular means of subsistence i.e. their land. I’m not questioning the theory of Neo- liberal philosophy and its potential to exploit, because it is clear to many people but rather I am amused by its paradoxical nature and it’s not singular but double and triple exploitation in a very paradoxical terms but in very consistent and persistent means. In plain language:
American foster Parent gets Ethiopian Kids. “Race to the Bottom” right? Australian journalist looks for catchy front pager news = to the exploitation of African poor and its image in the world arena. Mary Ann Jolley Gets paid good chunks of money = lives in suburban affluent community, and drives Volvo. She also obtains prestige, moral authority and legitimacy in African mater. Corporate media (ABC) makes quadruple profit from Mary Ann work; share holders make money. CEO gets bones on top of stack option and enormous salary. CEO owns fancy condo in lower Manhattan, owns a fancy house in affluent suburban community, and yes summer vacation beach house. Drives expensive cars and once a year attend fund raising diner which could be attributed to stopping hanger in African, because it’s good for PR (public relation)
Prove me wrong ????????????
Mary Ann Jolley should be a screen writer rather than a journalist; she invented a story out of something that is not news worse. Western corporate media exploits the world poorest individuals with no regard to their individual dignity and self respect. They travel any where in African and record and/or take horrific pictures that will eventually land in the front page of every major newspaper and news media. Yes there is little truth to her reporting, but most of it is exaggeration and theatrical creative writing that is very typical in contemporary English literature which seems to stick with her from journalism school days. The uncomfortable truth is that we all are playing in the global capitalism system and the “Race to the Bottom” is inevitable. This is true in child adaptation, journalism, and it is also true when the global corporate takes over the poor farmers singular means of subsistence i.e. their land. I’m not questioning the theory of Neo- liberal philosophy and its potential to exploit, because it is clear to many people but rather I am amused by its paradoxical nature and it’s not singular but double and triple exploitation in a very paradoxical terms but in very consistent and persistent means. In plain language:
American foster Parent gets Ethiopian Kids. “Race to the Bottom” right? Australian journalist looks for catchy front pager news = to the exploitation of African poor and its image in the world arena. Mary Ann Jolley Gets paid good chunks of money = lives in suburban affluent community, and drives Volvo. She also obtains prestige, moral authority and legitimacy in African mater. Corporate media (ABC) makes quadruple profit from Mary Ann work; share holders make money. CEO gets bones on top of stack option and enormous salary. CEO owns fancy condo in lower Manhattan, owns a fancy house in affluent suburban community, and yes summer vacation beach house. Drives expensive cars and once a year attend fund raising diner which could be attributed to stopping hanger in African, because it’s good for PR (public relation)
Prove me wrong ????????????
09/15/09 @ 04:04
Comment from: PIG SLAYER [Visitor]
And my sources in Addis tell me that, Woyanes are big time playas in the adoption business and the government is turning a blind eye to the whole situation.
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The same goes for trafficking young Ethiopian maids, so called domestic workers, to The Middle East.
The greedy, soulless & uneducated TPLF/EPLF junta and their equally greedy, soulless & uneducated greedy followers worship only Money.
They are too dumb and to greedy to have anything remotely clsoe to a vision when it comes to their Motherland.
I consider them traitors and I hate them!
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The same goes for trafficking young Ethiopian maids, so called domestic workers, to The Middle East.
The greedy, soulless & uneducated TPLF/EPLF junta and their equally greedy, soulless & uneducated greedy followers worship only Money.
They are too dumb and to greedy to have anything remotely clsoe to a vision when it comes to their Motherland.
I consider them traitors and I hate them!
09/15/09 @ 04:13
Comment from: hammere [Visitor]
Abyot,
Do not be idiot as such. Think in a way a human being does. Woyane has nothing to do with what you are saying
Do not be idiot as such. Think in a way a human being does. Woyane has nothing to do with what you are saying
09/15/09 @ 05:40
Comment from: balegoba [Visitor]
too many children born everywhere not enough food, no nothing, except Aids, prostitution, emigration, export maids in Arab households, welfare in west. the regime thinks more population means more power LoL, Telba Baand Mukacha
09/15/09 @ 05:52
Comment from: Yohanes [Visitor]
The responsibility for this criminal act lies in both the government and all greedy and selfish people in this country.
I, myself, have witnessed many scenes of Ethiopian children leaving in mass with American couples. I was very suspicious of the whole thing. Now this article confirms that it was criminal. Btw, I would not be surprised if some of these kids find themselves with gay couples.
I, myself, have witnessed many scenes of Ethiopian children leaving in mass with American couples. I was very suspicious of the whole thing. Now this article confirms that it was criminal. Btw, I would not be surprised if some of these kids find themselves with gay couples.
09/15/09 @ 07:15
Comment from: addiiss [Visitor]
China the budding world economy is the number country on the adoption list.
when Ethiopia or Africa becomes a more popular destination, here comes the coroccodile tears.
This lady who didn't even spare a change for the little kid she mentioned to sweeten her story, is emplying, not to adopt!
why would your eyes tear and your hearts bleed when some helpless children of Africa get a chance in life?
when Ethiopia or Africa becomes a more popular destination, here comes the coroccodile tears.
This lady who didn't even spare a change for the little kid she mentioned to sweeten her story, is emplying, not to adopt!
why would your eyes tear and your hearts bleed when some helpless children of Africa get a chance in life?
09/15/09 @ 07:22
Comment from: teshome [Visitor]
Tsiyon wrote:
"....I actually think that it is an opportunity for the children to live up to their potential......"
shame on you!! You are so short- sighted
"....I actually think that it is an opportunity for the children to live up to their potential......"
shame on you!! You are so short- sighted
09/15/09 @ 07:52
Comment from: davidodav [Visitor]
Shame on Woyanie leaders! i cried when i see those tears from our beloved mom in the picture. The tears tell a lot. I wish i can do something and help those mothers who have been suffering from poverty and losing their beloved ones.The thing that makes me surprise is that how come those "tycoon" rich people drive hammer and infinite in addis streets while majority of the people struggling to get a single bread? It's so weired. May the Almighty of God bless our mother land and end this inside burning tears of our mothers and fathers for ever.
09/15/09 @ 08:08
Comment from: engeda [Visitor]
i totally agree with Tsiyon, even the mother shown above crying is pretending as if she cares for her child the fact in ethioia now is with economic hadrship most people(especally those who are despertely poor) do not care about their child as we can see a lot of street children whose parents are baggers.
09/15/09 @ 08:22
Comment from: Ali roble [Visitor]
This is simply new form of the 21st century slavery and exploitation scheme of impoverished third world countries, especially Africans. It is due to the manumemtal failure of socio-political and ecnonomic and leadership of those nation..
This practice should be stop in its tracks or at least should be strick guidlines of the adoption. You may wonder why the ppl travel and shop far way places when there are so many poor kids in the who needs adoption in America.
There are many reason and chief amond they are not honest prospective parent or may , for instance, they just need human pet and that is prefer snatch from far away places and detatch their heritage and cultures.
They may not also qualified here financial, social, racial,etc. backround.
Governments, if there such thing,should also educate locals the true nature of giving awya their kids for adoption.They also advice above having many unwanted babies like usinf contraceptive tools including castration.
(, sexuality backround
for adoption
This practice should be stop in its tracks or at least should be strick guidlines of the adoption. You may wonder why the ppl travel and shop far way places when there are so many poor kids in the who needs adoption in America.
There are many reason and chief amond they are not honest prospective parent or may , for instance, they just need human pet and that is prefer snatch from far away places and detatch their heritage and cultures.
They may not also qualified here financial, social, racial,etc. backround.
Governments, if there such thing,should also educate locals the true nature of giving awya their kids for adoption.They also advice above having many unwanted babies like usinf contraceptive tools including castration.
(, sexuality backround
for adoption
09/15/09 @ 08:32
Comment from: B.Tufa [Visitor]
It so, so disturbing. I wonder if there is anything left human about us? This is the result of our so-called political leaders who knowingly or unknowingly collaborated with Western powers to destroy our country and our people our history, our culture, our religion, our leaders and everything what we adored and honored for centuries under the disguise of first “socialism” and now “democracy.” I am sorry country which was a symbol of pride and dignity and symbol of freedom transferred into this in such short period of time.
09/15/09 @ 08:52
Comment from: Zekarias [Visitor]
This is yet another plunder being comitted by Meles government. Make no mistake about
it. It is done for money. 'Shipping
children' who have no say at all under
the guise of helping them is a phony
scheme designed by those to make more
money out of the misery of the people.
No wonder after 19 years Ethiopia still
falls behind every country in the
world except Zimbabwe.
09/15/09 @ 08:58
Comment from: death2woyane [Visitor]
tsiyion i think you were adopted and maybe your mom dont want you back but you have no evidence to say that the children are not wanted by their mothers and the mothers only want money. Its wrong and a damn lie. Woyane is now in the business of selling children. Death to woyane.
09/15/09 @ 09:23
Comment from: Benyam [Visitor]
All we need is to regulate and remove the unregistered and illegal adoption agencies.
Adoption is a common practice through out the world. Americans adopt more from Eastern Europe, Russia and China.
Don’t underestimate the love and care those foreigners provide to the kids. They spend and care more for their dogs than we Ethiopians do for our own kids. We should not be racist and say lets keep our orphans and let them die with out proper care....Don’t forget we still have kids dying as a result of hunger.
Let's open our heart and mind for those coming to help us genuinely.
Adoption is a common practice through out the world. Americans adopt more from Eastern Europe, Russia and China.
Don’t underestimate the love and care those foreigners provide to the kids. They spend and care more for their dogs than we Ethiopians do for our own kids. We should not be racist and say lets keep our orphans and let them die with out proper care....Don’t forget we still have kids dying as a result of hunger.
Let's open our heart and mind for those coming to help us genuinely.
09/15/09 @ 09:37
Comment from: T. Alemayehu [Visitor]
I returned from a short trip to Ethiopia on New Years Day. Sitting in the boarding area waiting for ET500 to Washington, DC I began to notice a non-ending procession of young Ethiopian kids ranging from a few months to a few years in age attached to white men, women and couples, gay and straight. As time passed, I began to count without being too obvious the number of such children. I counted 27 chldren on that flight. At the DC airport an obviously incesed African Ameran woman asked me whether these black children were being sold. When I related to her how astounded I was about my count, she told me that she counted 34 children before she gave up. The flight attendant who was working my isle assured me that the numbers were a bit higher than normal but that there are always at least 2 dozen kids on every flight.
Clearly, we have a problem here. I am not trying to asign blame -- even though it would be easy to do that. I am just astounded how quickly our country is unraveling infront of our eyes and we are not even talking aout it.
It is a disgrace that should put all of us to shame.
09/15/09 @ 09:39
Comment from: omo [Visitor]
Cry dear mothers of Ethiopia! The river of tears may bring one-day happiness and calm to your hearts. It might wash and emancipate you and your families from chronic poverty and hunger. It might be the river that will drawn your enemies, those who take the last morsel of bread from the mouth of your sick children, those who made your poor children a lucrative commodity.
Ethiopia and her children are for sell to the highest bidder. An amount of money equivalent to almost $100m is transacted every year through the dubious adoption system of Ethiopian children. The money from this human commodity is filling the pockets of members of the regime, while foreign agencies have their share too.
Adoption of Ethiopian children by rich foreigners is not a bad idea. Nevertheless, it must be in a legal and humane way and there must be a means to control and check those involved. There should also be a way to trace these children to find out about their fate.
There are many stories, all over the world, of children sold even before their mothers leave maternity wards, with the pretext of false deaths, children stolen and used for the procurement of organs for transplant and children illegally adopted by professionals in human trafficking. We all know about our young women who are in fact exported to Arab lands by those who function with the blessings of this regime.
We do not expect much from the regime in Addis. Nevertheless, it is the duty of the UN and the whole world community, to force it to implement open and controlled adoption procedures that will give full and easily understandable explanation to the parents of these unfortunate children, as to what adoption means and as to what is going to happen. More over, adoption should involve only those vulnerable children with no parents. Poor or rich, by herself, a mother is everything to a child and a child does not need anything else in this world but his mother.
Those mafia groups that roam Ethiopian villages, as if they are small traders who search for different commodities from poultry to sheep etc. and deceive parents, should be brought to the court of law and Ethiopian children should be protected.
Ethiopia and her children are for sell to the highest bidder. An amount of money equivalent to almost $100m is transacted every year through the dubious adoption system of Ethiopian children. The money from this human commodity is filling the pockets of members of the regime, while foreign agencies have their share too.
Adoption of Ethiopian children by rich foreigners is not a bad idea. Nevertheless, it must be in a legal and humane way and there must be a means to control and check those involved. There should also be a way to trace these children to find out about their fate.
There are many stories, all over the world, of children sold even before their mothers leave maternity wards, with the pretext of false deaths, children stolen and used for the procurement of organs for transplant and children illegally adopted by professionals in human trafficking. We all know about our young women who are in fact exported to Arab lands by those who function with the blessings of this regime.
We do not expect much from the regime in Addis. Nevertheless, it is the duty of the UN and the whole world community, to force it to implement open and controlled adoption procedures that will give full and easily understandable explanation to the parents of these unfortunate children, as to what adoption means and as to what is going to happen. More over, adoption should involve only those vulnerable children with no parents. Poor or rich, by herself, a mother is everything to a child and a child does not need anything else in this world but his mother.
Those mafia groups that roam Ethiopian villages, as if they are small traders who search for different commodities from poultry to sheep etc. and deceive parents, should be brought to the court of law and Ethiopian children should be protected.
09/15/09 @ 09:43
Comment from: observer [Visitor]
Every thing on sale in Ethiopia land children etc..
Where is the so called government of Ethiopia when all these happen or in the other way is it the tribal government and its janjaweeds exporting these kids?
The reason the tribal war lord banned most of humanitarian organizations is because those were the ones who will protect the rights of this infant slaves from falling into the hands of illegal importers. Now every thing seems on table for sale. God save the poor.
Where is the so called government of Ethiopia when all these happen or in the other way is it the tribal government and its janjaweeds exporting these kids?
The reason the tribal war lord banned most of humanitarian organizations is because those were the ones who will protect the rights of this infant slaves from falling into the hands of illegal importers. Now every thing seems on table for sale. God save the poor.
09/15/09 @ 09:51
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
. . .there is two sides. . .the future of the child and the poverty/hardlife in our country. . .
. . .i can feel the pain of the mother whenever her child separated with her but i cant accept to see the child that there is no hope and future in our country due to poverty and lack of support in education. . .
. . .remember, they can bite the sharp of the knife just for the future of their children. . .
09/15/09 @ 10:12
Comment from: THE TRUTH [Visitor]
Hmm go to Ghion hotel that is their main base, you see them petting them like little puppies or cats!
Then see them at Bole airport man it is so sad, straight away the kids are misbehaving jumping up on the trolley etc but they don't know how to behave and the parent just let them they have already lost control of the kids before they leave Ethiopia,and I shake my head in sadness, the adoptive parents may mean well but why change their name from Derege to Giovani and start talking to them in Italian!
So who in Ethiopia vets these Adoptive parents how do we know they are mentally stabe to adopt an Ethiopian child and able to provide the cultural upbringing they require? What abot molesting the children who monitors that? So they addopt a baby from Ethiopia to give him as better life, what is that better life cable TV, hotdogs and Ice cream? name me one recent success story from this selling of Ethiopian children, it is like they even have two for one deals, pay for one and we throw in the brother free of charge.
Yes there are many poor Ethiopians tricked into parting with their children, but many sell their children too! but what do you expect everybody belives USA or Europe is the land to be in then 18 years later after MTV and BET, Mcdonalds etc have fried their brains they commit stupid crimes then get sent to jail for life then we all say give them a chance?
It cost $8000 to addopt a child in Ethiopia and guess who gets all this money? no not the family.........
Maybe we should thank our lucky stars the Chinese don't like adopting Ethiopians or Black kids, they would have emptied so many Ethiopian villages by now, sadly they only like sleeping with our girls and leaving hundreds of half Chinese babies behind everywhere they go in Ethiopia, this is the next very big problem we are facing, the growing number of half Chinese babies being left all over Ethiopia with their Ethiopian mothers who stupidly sit waiting year after year for their "Chinese fathers" to come back to take them to China they now call these children "CHI-BESHA" and even call them "CHINA"
Not so much in Addis but especially in the rural areas it is incredible!
09/15/09 @ 10:17
Comment from: abe [Visitor]
How sad.
It seems there is no end to our humilation.Famin,war,...and now children on sale.
It seems there is no end to our humilation.Famin,war,...and now children on sale.
09/15/09 @ 10:26
Comment from: Jegna [Visitor]
You know what some of you idiots should have been aborted since you serve no purpose but to deflect blame from the government. Are you kidding me? Tell me a time when Ethiopia was NOT a poor country. Tell me a time when there was no famine or hard ship for a majority of the people. You can't because we have never had such a time. But all of the sudden hundreds of kids are being pretty much sold by unregulated agencies facilitated by the government. Don't give me this bs the government is not responsible. We all know how Ethiopia works you can’t wipe your ass with out woyne getting a sniff of it, so if these agencies are operating with out regulation it is because the government let’s them. So if Ethiopia has always been poor filled with poor kids and all of the sudden we have an explosion of foreigners taking hundreds of kids overseas, what is the contributing factor? The government you idiots. And you woyne dogs have the balls to say “the mother’s don’t love their kids”. Sometimes you guys take it too far, no matter how much of a boot licker you are you can’t tell me this doesn’t break your heart. Animals!
09/15/09 @ 11:03
Comment from: Hadia [Visitor]
Oh God, oh God!!!!!!! Please help us!!!!
As a parent it is hard to hear that....What so ever, it is good when child is grow with his natural parent, in his country, with his cultur and tradition.
God! Please help us be with us, so we can help our children. So we can take care of our gift!!! Children are gifts of God..... God be with us please!!!!!
As a parent it is hard to hear that....What so ever, it is good when child is grow with his natural parent, in his country, with his cultur and tradition.
God! Please help us be with us, so we can help our children. So we can take care of our gift!!! Children are gifts of God..... God be with us please!!!!!
09/15/09 @ 11:07
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
Before you guys vomit all kind of rubbish - why don't you ask me or the Chef about adoption - and we will tell you a different story.
If I was NOT been adopted:
- I might finish high school in Addis and eventually go to the University of Addis - OR - fellow in the footstep of my biological father meaning starting with being a listro then eventually own a shop - Future unknown
By being adopted by Israeli family:
- I went to one of the best High School in Tel Aviv - Herzliya Hebrew High School - then got my first degree at Tel Aviv University
- At every school recess - I went back to Ethiopia for a month or month and half to be with my biological parents and siblings and one month every year we (with my adoptive family ) were visiting 2 or 3 countries around the world.
-My adoptive family chose to live in a neighborhood where several Ethiopian Jews live in order for me & my sister to grow up immersed in our Ethiopian culture.
-I grew up in an intellectually very fertile environment - and I am immensely grateful to my adoptive parents.
When I came to the US - I met several Ethiopian Immigrants family whose children never had even 1% of all the privilege I had while growing up in a white family. These second generation Ethiopian children never been to a picnic or spend one single day at the beach with their Ethiopian parents. These kids never been to any concert or visit museum let alone visit another country with their Ethiopian parents. Their children grew up in a very suffocated environment.
So I am immensely grateful to be adopted - a whole new world opened up for me and my sister.
So you guys can vomit whatever you want but even being adopted I never lost my identity or my culture. So eat your heart out those who are against adoption
If I was NOT been adopted:
- I might finish high school in Addis and eventually go to the University of Addis - OR - fellow in the footstep of my biological father meaning starting with being a listro then eventually own a shop - Future unknown
By being adopted by Israeli family:
- I went to one of the best High School in Tel Aviv - Herzliya Hebrew High School - then got my first degree at Tel Aviv University
- At every school recess - I went back to Ethiopia for a month or month and half to be with my biological parents and siblings and one month every year we (with my adoptive family ) were visiting 2 or 3 countries around the world.
-My adoptive family chose to live in a neighborhood where several Ethiopian Jews live in order for me & my sister to grow up immersed in our Ethiopian culture.
-I grew up in an intellectually very fertile environment - and I am immensely grateful to my adoptive parents.
When I came to the US - I met several Ethiopian Immigrants family whose children never had even 1% of all the privilege I had while growing up in a white family. These second generation Ethiopian children never been to a picnic or spend one single day at the beach with their Ethiopian parents. These kids never been to any concert or visit museum let alone visit another country with their Ethiopian parents. Their children grew up in a very suffocated environment.
So I am immensely grateful to be adopted - a whole new world opened up for me and my sister.
So you guys can vomit whatever you want but even being adopted I never lost my identity or my culture. So eat your heart out those who are against adoption
09/15/09 @ 11:40
Comment from: woldeyesus [Visitor]
Ethiopians have long lost their pride and dignity. We are all the same whether we have or do not have. First it was started by the haves. They took their kids on 'vacations' to Europe and America and left them there to flip burgers or live on the generosity of the tax payers there. Coming back home alone, the 'rich' parents create the impression that all is green outside and it is a respectable thing to flee your country at any cost. Then the epidemic spread and here we all are making sure we get back once every 2 to 3 years with all the junk we collect from every sale we manage to get our hands on. We don't tell the truth back home or even if some try it seems it is too late - the epidemic has passed the threshold.
May God have mercy on that nation which is the tail of all nations on earth. Amen!
09/15/09 @ 11:44
Comment from: semu [Visitor]
Is Ethiopian government doing any chech after these kids are adopted? I heard before that there are some people who are geting kids just for human organ sale. You know what I mean, kidny, heart etc. for transplant. Who knows if all kids are in good hands. I have nothing against adoption, but there must be some kind of control even after adoption procces is done, to know where abouts of these kids.
09/15/09 @ 12:38
Comment from: 2 z red herring [Visitor]
Tsiyon [Visitor] tells us, "
Most parents give there child willingly."
This is a cruel accusation of the parents of the children. I don't know where she got this information. These parents are sending away their children to save them from hunger.
Could Tsiyon tell us what the yearly income of an average family in ETHIOPIA? Let's leave the poor aside.
Tsiyon! What is the motive of these parents when they give their beloved children for adoption?
Listen hammere barking at Abyot:
hammere [Visitor]
Abyot,
Do not be idiot as such. Think in a way a human being does. Woyane has nothing to do with what you are saying
hammere! Lastly you told us the truth. You're absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!
Occupiers don't care for the citizens of the country they occupy. Thank you for telling us the truth. Insiders tell us soon these traitors would fire you for your naivity and exposim their real agenda...Sorry about that.
Dear readers:
Ethiopians around the world should do someting about it. First establish strong Ethiopian communities...Then establish relations with the adopting agemcies and create a mechanism to find a solution for major alleged problems.
Whether the meles gov gone or not adoption is one of the methods to save these children.
Most parents give there child willingly."
This is a cruel accusation of the parents of the children. I don't know where she got this information. These parents are sending away their children to save them from hunger.
Could Tsiyon tell us what the yearly income of an average family in ETHIOPIA? Let's leave the poor aside.
Tsiyon! What is the motive of these parents when they give their beloved children for adoption?
Listen hammere barking at Abyot:
hammere [Visitor]
Abyot,
Do not be idiot as such. Think in a way a human being does. Woyane has nothing to do with what you are saying
hammere! Lastly you told us the truth. You're absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!
Occupiers don't care for the citizens of the country they occupy. Thank you for telling us the truth. Insiders tell us soon these traitors would fire you for your naivity and exposim their real agenda...Sorry about that.
Dear readers:
Ethiopians around the world should do someting about it. First establish strong Ethiopian communities...Then establish relations with the adopting agemcies and create a mechanism to find a solution for major alleged problems.
Whether the meles gov gone or not adoption is one of the methods to save these children.
09/15/09 @ 12:49
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
hammere,
. . .your puppets in the parliament are sleeping and enjoyed with their injections from your stupid leader. . .if they are not sleeping and neglected us, these shame are already stop by creating laws to ban these shi*t!. . .
. . .u mfkr!
09/15/09 @ 13:26
Comment from: lij [Visitor]
One can counter this horror by planning a few programms, such as making adoption to Ethiopians living abroad accessable. Asking Ethiopians within the country to adopt a child. Establishing an organization (NGO) to support families in need and those living on the streets with children. In Rwanda afer the genocide, there were thousands of orphans, one way they addressed the issue was by asking each family to take a child in. We are blessed in Africa, that we love children, it is not necessarily true in other countries. The Government should also channel the efforts of all the NGOs in an organized manner based on the needs of the community and the Government. Instead of limiting the NGOs, their efforts should be leveraged to address various social issues. Also women need education, which is the root cause of having more children than One is able to support and the root cause of poverty. Unless you have strong families you can't have strong cities and development, it is an imbalance.
09/15/09 @ 13:29
Comment from: lij [Visitor]
Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal
Good for you!
I assure you, you will not find culture conscious folks like yours in the US. Your parents understand the value of culture and even moved into a neighbourhood where there were more Ethiopians. They are sensitive and beautiful people it seems. It is not like that in the US at all. Neighbourhoods in the majority of the Sates are segregated across racial lines. If a single black family move into an all white neighbourhoods, then whole white family will flee. There is a whole documentary on this, on how realestate value is determined based what colour of people live there etc..
Good for you!
I assure you, you will not find culture conscious folks like yours in the US. Your parents understand the value of culture and even moved into a neighbourhood where there were more Ethiopians. They are sensitive and beautiful people it seems. It is not like that in the US at all. Neighbourhoods in the majority of the Sates are segregated across racial lines. If a single black family move into an all white neighbourhoods, then whole white family will flee. There is a whole documentary on this, on how realestate value is determined based what colour of people live there etc..
09/15/09 @ 13:40
Comment from: V [Visitor]
@Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yedenkal,
I am happy that all worked well for you and your sister. But there are other examples to.
At what age were you adopted?
I am not against international adoption but the problem arises when children are treated as commodities. They are mostly serving the interest of childless couples. It doesn´t mean that those parents are bad or can´t give love to their adopted children but the parents are ready to pay and do everything to get a child. Most of them are desperate of having one or more.
If international adoption is in the best interest of the child than there is no problem sending the kids to other cultures.
I am happy that all worked well for you and your sister. But there are other examples to.
At what age were you adopted?
I am not against international adoption but the problem arises when children are treated as commodities. They are mostly serving the interest of childless couples. It doesn´t mean that those parents are bad or can´t give love to their adopted children but the parents are ready to pay and do everything to get a child. Most of them are desperate of having one or more.
If international adoption is in the best interest of the child than there is no problem sending the kids to other cultures.
09/15/09 @ 14:05
Comment from: Tadele [Visitor]
Any one who wants personal freedom also accepts personal responsibility,unless you want the gov't to meddle in your family affair,why need to blame ? Luck & God never raise children on behalf of irresponsible parents, keep on having ten children per head & united nation take cares for you.my fellow Ethiopians, let's accept the reality as a people we are degraded in every aspect of life.
09/15/09 @ 14:06
Comment from: lij is in lala land [Visitor]
hey lij,
Do you think Ethiopians adopt kids? Ethiopians are very backward people other than Oromos who have rich culture of GUDIFECH?A a traditional adoption system in which strangers' kids are accepted and raised as one's own.
Ethiopians don't even marry women who have kids with another man/woman. Do you think they go back and go through all that bureaucracy to bring a kid to America? Ethiopains are so narrow-minded that they don't even adopt someone outside their little village, if they ever do adopt.
The best option is to force foreign adoption agencies and their clientele to sign a binding contract making it open to Ethiopain embassy or any chosen agency of Ethiopain government to go to their homes and see the status of children after they're adopted. IF they're not open to such inspections, then to stop adoptions.
Who knows there even maybe some depraved pedophiles going to ethiopia for the purpose of adopting kids to molest. I heard of two guys weho adopted Bangladeshi boys and kept them as sex slaves until they were caught.
Do you think Ethiopians adopt kids? Ethiopians are very backward people other than Oromos who have rich culture of GUDIFECH?A a traditional adoption system in which strangers' kids are accepted and raised as one's own.
Ethiopians don't even marry women who have kids with another man/woman. Do you think they go back and go through all that bureaucracy to bring a kid to America? Ethiopains are so narrow-minded that they don't even adopt someone outside their little village, if they ever do adopt.
The best option is to force foreign adoption agencies and their clientele to sign a binding contract making it open to Ethiopain embassy or any chosen agency of Ethiopain government to go to their homes and see the status of children after they're adopted. IF they're not open to such inspections, then to stop adoptions.
Who knows there even maybe some depraved pedophiles going to ethiopia for the purpose of adopting kids to molest. I heard of two guys weho adopted Bangladeshi boys and kept them as sex slaves until they were caught.
09/15/09 @ 14:24
Comment from: lij is in lala land [Visitor]
The reporter is a big 
She should have given the little girl some bucks or at least bought her pen and paper/notepads/.
How sad makes me want to go back and do something.
She should have given the little girl some bucks or at least bought her pen and paper/notepads/.How sad makes me want to go back and do something.
09/15/09 @ 15:01
Comment from: Z-Mike [Visitor]
This says it all…“No one disputes there is a real need for international adoptions, but for the sake of the children and adoptive parents there needs to be some protection from unscrupulous agencies who purport to be driven by humanitarian interests, but in reality are stuffing their pockets with dirty cash.”
Lebona,
Instead of jumping up and down and attacking Tsiyon, you need to do little research and fact checks. What the author said and what Tsiyon said is FACTS that you or no other Ethiopians can hide. Wake up and take a trip to southern Ethiopia (the villages) and ask people what they know about adoption or if they know anyone who gives their child to adoption…
It is very sad in the name of adoption foreign agencies and some Ethiopians are turning it into full scale business and they don’t care about the well-being of any child.
Z-Mike
Lebona,
Instead of jumping up and down and attacking Tsiyon, you need to do little research and fact checks. What the author said and what Tsiyon said is FACTS that you or no other Ethiopians can hide. Wake up and take a trip to southern Ethiopia (the villages) and ask people what they know about adoption or if they know anyone who gives their child to adoption…
It is very sad in the name of adoption foreign agencies and some Ethiopians are turning it into full scale business and they don’t care about the well-being of any child.
Z-Mike
09/15/09 @ 15:31
Comment from: Imperial Bodyguard [Visitor]
There is no way that this big time sell off of Ethiopia would happen if its rightful, historical, essential dynasty was restored in its fullest sense. For the past 35 years alien puppets have tried to rule Ethiopia, and have failed miserabley, they have made Ethiopia a have not when she has all the potentials of an increased standard of living for all Ethiopians guided by the protector of common interests the sovereign ie. the Emperor. "Those of us to whom the grave responsibility of governing have been given bear a heavy burden before the people and Almighty God for the proper discharge of our duties. Let us all labour in this sense; that the people of Ethiopia may ever live in happiness and prosperity." Negus Haile Selassie, Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy, for it is God's will, Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
09/15/09 @ 15:36
Comment from: amanuel [Visitor]
ጉዲፈቻን የሚቃወም ለደሃ እና የመከራ ኑሮ ለሚገፉ ልጆች መልካም ነገር የማይኝ ምቀኛ ነው
እኛ ማድረግ ያልቻልነውን ሌሎች ሲያደርጉት የምንናደድ ሁሉን ለመቃወም የተፈጠርን የፈረንጆቹን መልካም ስራ የምናወግዝ ከንቱዎች
አብዛኛዎቻችን በውጭው አለም የምንኖር መሆናችን ይበልጥ ያሳዝናል ከሀገር ስንወጣም የመኖሪያ ፍቃድ ያገኘነው በተቃዋሚ ስም ስለሆነ መቃወም ከደማችን ገብቶአል እኛ የቀመስነውን መልካም ህይወት እንዳይቀምሱ መከልከል ለምን አስፈለገ
መንግስትን ለመቃወም ከሆነ ሌላ መንገድ ፈልጉ ወይም ሸፍቱ
እኛ ማድረግ ያልቻልነውን ሌሎች ሲያደርጉት የምንናደድ ሁሉን ለመቃወም የተፈጠርን የፈረንጆቹን መልካም ስራ የምናወግዝ ከንቱዎች
አብዛኛዎቻችን በውጭው አለም የምንኖር መሆናችን ይበልጥ ያሳዝናል ከሀገር ስንወጣም የመኖሪያ ፍቃድ ያገኘነው በተቃዋሚ ስም ስለሆነ መቃወም ከደማችን ገብቶአል እኛ የቀመስነውን መልካም ህይወት እንዳይቀምሱ መከልከል ለምን አስፈለገ
መንግስትን ለመቃወም ከሆነ ሌላ መንገድ ፈልጉ ወይም ሸፍቱ
09/15/09 @ 16:17
Comment from: Taharka [Visitor]
I think that if white Americans/Europeans want to help? Then they should pay for the Ethiopian child to go and finish school in Ethiopia!
Then sponsor her/him to go on to University in Ethiopia! Maybe then if they want too. Sponsor the young Ethiopian to come to their country anything else, is similar to 19th slavery in the Americas.
When children were torn from their mothers lost their language, culture and identity. Its tough enough for us born in the west and black it would be even worse for a child from such a strong culture as Ethiopia. During the 18th & 19th centuries Europeans use to keep African children as pets. These parents should be more informed of the realities of being a none white in the west. A President Barack Obama doesn't mean racism has gone away!
Then sponsor her/him to go on to University in Ethiopia! Maybe then if they want too. Sponsor the young Ethiopian to come to their country anything else, is similar to 19th slavery in the Americas.
When children were torn from their mothers lost their language, culture and identity. Its tough enough for us born in the west and black it would be even worse for a child from such a strong culture as Ethiopia. During the 18th & 19th centuries Europeans use to keep African children as pets. These parents should be more informed of the realities of being a none white in the west. A President Barack Obama doesn't mean racism has gone away!
09/15/09 @ 16:41
Comment from: Ato [Visitor]
Dear Nazret.com & to all Ethiopians.
Please vist this website (see below). You will be utterly shocked how ethiopian kids are being treated as pets - very upsetting. I was fighting & challenging the whites there but kicked out from the forum.
Let's declare war on this site - join their forum and fight!
http://discussion.bethany.org/viewforum.php?f=41
or Google it with "Bethany Discussion Forums Ethiopia"
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Please vist this website (see below). You will be utterly shocked how ethiopian kids are being treated as pets - very upsetting. I was fighting & challenging the whites there but kicked out from the forum.
Let's declare war on this site - join their forum and fight!
http://discussion.bethany.org/viewforum.php?f=41
or Google it with "Bethany Discussion Forums Ethiopia"
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09/15/09 @ 17:42
Comment from: Shark [Visitor]
A good example of BAD JOURNALISM. This lady have no idea how poor these kids were before adoption. Does she want them on the streets of Addis for the rest of their lives? It is unfortunate that most of these diasporas had done everything to come to the west and are hypocratic enough to close the door for these kids. Some of the mothers had put them for adoption claiming that they are relatives and the parents of the kids were dead, believing that they will cash in some dollars. Then the shade crocodile tears if they get no meoney out of it. Those people who are adopting in Ethiopia are very decent God fearing Christians who want to raise these kids like their own. Stupid journalist do your home work first before you write such jiberish. Besides Ethiopian babys are one of the most beautiful babys in the world.
Shegaw, well said. If these jelous people are asked to contribute a hundred dollar for the street kids in Addis they wouldn't give a cent but have a big mouth if some one tries to help those poor kids. They are saying to these kids: stay in Ethiopia with no prospect for food, a school nor shelter. I wonder why they came to the west in the first place, wasn't it for food, education, work and shelter? BIG HYPOCRYTS.
Shegaw, well said. If these jelous people are asked to contribute a hundred dollar for the street kids in Addis they wouldn't give a cent but have a big mouth if some one tries to help those poor kids. They are saying to these kids: stay in Ethiopia with no prospect for food, a school nor shelter. I wonder why they came to the west in the first place, wasn't it for food, education, work and shelter? BIG HYPOCRYTS.
09/15/09 @ 18:21
Comment from: EthioMan [Visitor]
What does shabians do with their childeren Kibrom z shabia dog? They shoot them when they try to cross into Ethiopia in need of food. We do much better than you kibrom, we make adoption relatively easy. Not that it is right but what business of a shabia dog like you is it?
For my Ethiopian bros and sis'... it is wrong to just hand over our childeren to God knows who. There needs to be some requirement here because it is so goddamn easy for anyone to fly in and fly out with a baby. I do not blame Woyane for it but the circumistance that got us to this point. Still, we need to regulate it more. If these childeren are going to a better future, what could be better than starving to death or being homeless and dying young in the strees of Addis?
It is a bitter choice but better if done with strict regulations to make sure who these childeren are.
For my Ethiopian bros and sis'... it is wrong to just hand over our childeren to God knows who. There needs to be some requirement here because it is so goddamn easy for anyone to fly in and fly out with a baby. I do not blame Woyane for it but the circumistance that got us to this point. Still, we need to regulate it more. If these childeren are going to a better future, what could be better than starving to death or being homeless and dying young in the strees of Addis?
It is a bitter choice but better if done with strict regulations to make sure who these childeren are.
09/15/09 @ 18:59
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
lij is in lala land [Visitor]
Don't worry about the kids - there is such thing as social worker for those kids till they reach maturity. And the school works in behave of the kids too- and also what do you think will happen to those adopted kids? Isn't adoption much better than the neighborhood where they were supposed to grow up in their home country? neighborhood reeking with sewage?
Don't worry about the kids - there is such thing as social worker for those kids till they reach maturity. And the school works in behave of the kids too- and also what do you think will happen to those adopted kids? Isn't adoption much better than the neighborhood where they were supposed to grow up in their home country? neighborhood reeking with sewage?
09/15/09 @ 19:12
Comment from: Aden1 [Visitor]
Heart wranching story. There are so many pieces in it that, another point of view need to scrutinize it.
Are the parents voluntary victims? or circumstance makes people ambiguous even when it comes to their own children. Why just A VERBAL AGREEMENT for such an arrangement?
-There are crooks/some of the agencies/the government that generates income from it but does not have a more structured guide lines and committed follow up.
- The adopting families? Well they take what is offered.
Are the parents voluntary victims? or circumstance makes people ambiguous even when it comes to their own children. Why just A VERBAL AGREEMENT for such an arrangement?
-There are crooks/some of the agencies/the government that generates income from it but does not have a more structured guide lines and committed follow up.
- The adopting families? Well they take what is offered.
09/15/09 @ 19:30
Comment from: Ment4you [Visitor]
Shame on all of us, Shame on a government that is failing to protect its children, shame on our culture that doesn't not really value child like the west.
beyond saddening and frustrating!!!!
beyond saddening and frustrating!!!!
09/15/09 @ 20:17
Comment from: joe [Visitor]
Another testimony for the whole world to see how the ethnic federal government of Ethiopia the west portrays as one of the brightest in Africa destroying the fabric of the otherwise morally and culturally decent society.
The whites flock to Ethiopia to pick and choose innocent kids courtesy of the US and UK sponsored meles zenawi's government.these days Ethiopia has become supermarket with shelves displaying little children,fertile land,girls and natural resources for sale.those heartless Arabs,Indians,Chinese and Europeans are rushing to snatch up the offer.no wonder this dictator is highly regarded by those who have no love for the poor.
The whites flock to Ethiopia to pick and choose innocent kids courtesy of the US and UK sponsored meles zenawi's government.these days Ethiopia has become supermarket with shelves displaying little children,fertile land,girls and natural resources for sale.those heartless Arabs,Indians,Chinese and Europeans are rushing to snatch up the offer.no wonder this dictator is highly regarded by those who have no love for the poor.
09/15/09 @ 20:34
Comment from: henok [Visitor]
Dear writer,
I read the Long and Boring Old Story you wrote as if something new developing right now.I think may be it is because you feel real bad you could not even give a pen to the kid you met in Addis that you have to accuse Americans and orphan adopting agencies who are helping kids get a better future.The facts remains the same
1. Those poor Mothers love their Kids.
2. It is because of their poverty they are unable to raise kids.
3. As any mother would do anything for her kid to get the best in life, these poor mothers have to make a hardest decision and sacrifice of their life for the sake of their beloved ones.
4. I believe the Government and adopting agencies should screen individuals(criminal and financial) to make sure children safety.
In conclusion, it is not a new story or news that children are adopted (orphans or parents who are unable to raise)and is good as long as it is for kids better future.
09/15/09 @ 21:26
Comment from: Gade [Visitor]
who knows same of ended up in the hand of J-U (Israel)and be come gene pig
they gone practice on them for medical purpose or sale there boy part.they are doing this for long time in central Africa - chad -Angola 1000 children are missing this is organized crime under in the name of religen
09/15/09 @ 23:16
Comment from: Gezaee [Visitor]
Dear Ethiopians.
The writer did the right thing to expose this ruthless inhumaninty. I admire this lady Ann. What is written is genuine, it is the reality.
Those who are demonizing the lady ann, are the deceitful Ethiopians.
Whether we like it or not, Ethiopia is rotten now to the bottom.
There is no Ethiopia anymore. What is good in Ethiopia Ethiopians?
1. Land on sell now to any bidder?
2. Young girls on sell now?
3. young men drowning across the atlantic to get to the west?
4. Elders abandoned on the streets?
5. Childrens abandoned on the streets?
Woye mama Ethiopia?
This is heart-rending Ethiopians.
The useless government tells us it is developing the country?
Even during derg, except the killing of people because of the messy politcs, there were no such thing at all. It seems the government is useless .
My message to all Ethiopians, let us stop blaming the west, the arab, .... let us do house cleaning and redeem our people from unforeseen type of slavery.
I honestly ask Ethiopians all over the world to come together and do something now than ever. Lamenting, accusing people or the west will never solve our problem.
There are selfish or good people everywhere in the world. We were supposed to have a government that protects the 80 million people. However, the so called government has become so toothless, useless now. The so called government can not do any much better. They have done what they can so far. They said they will solve the complex problem of the country by themselves. We see then now 20 years down the line, they have not done anything good to the country.
What is to be done now:
Ethiopians, please stop being selfish? please, mobilize the people and do something. We need a civil leader who can mobilize the 80 million people to redeem themselves. Ato Meles has done what he can. I do not think Ato Meles can do any much more after now. Ato Meles drove the country for 20 years all alone by refusing to accommodate any alternative idea. Even now after 34 years in power, he has totally refused to correct his mistakes.
His main motivation is to collect money from anywhere by any means to solve the problem of the country. However, money never solve any problem. Problem is solved by people , not by money. He thought he could do it alone if he gets the money from anywhere. Time has proved Ato Meles as the wrong leader of Ethiopia.
I am ashamed now. This is too much to our people. I ask you to come together and plan together to redeem your people.
Shame to all of us. We have become a degenerated citizen.
09/15/09 @ 23:30
Comment from: Zeab [Visitor]
Yayew Hulu yidenekal,
If you think adoption is not bad, you may help the kids by creating a non profit company that registers, conducts a follow up of the quality of life of the children being adopted. I hope you will find sponsors and supporters. Just open offices in Addis and abroad; God knows, you may do some thing important.
Your company can do many things for the kids, teach them about their country, establish dynamic communication among them, and so many other things…….
If you think adoption is not bad, you may help the kids by creating a non profit company that registers, conducts a follow up of the quality of life of the children being adopted. I hope you will find sponsors and supporters. Just open offices in Addis and abroad; God knows, you may do some thing important.
Your company can do many things for the kids, teach them about their country, establish dynamic communication among them, and so many other things…….
09/16/09 @ 00:01
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
A family is the smallest unit of a society and this speaks volumes about the nation. It is mainly in Ethiopia where a family sends their sons and doughter to the west in the most dangerous ways and also their young doughter to unknown Arab land and give out their baby to unknown people. This happens only in the land of hypocrites with an evil heart and fake religious belief.
09/16/09 @ 00:18
Comment from: Agamino [Visitor]
I was about to cry when i see the clip.
i feel sorry for the mothers and the children.
when i see some of the comments they were trying to associate it with Ethiopian government, which i am not surprised. they try to blame every thing to the govt.i agree to some part the govt. should make sure the agencies are legitimate other than that its up to the mother who is willing to give her kids.
i don't blame completely the mother either, because she can't afforded to raise her child.
I BLAME those racist people who live in and out of Ethiopia, instead of doing some thing good for the country/people,they spray their toxic and inefficient political view.
i feel sorry for the mothers and the children.
when i see some of the comments they were trying to associate it with Ethiopian government, which i am not surprised. they try to blame every thing to the govt.i agree to some part the govt. should make sure the agencies are legitimate other than that its up to the mother who is willing to give her kids.
i don't blame completely the mother either, because she can't afforded to raise her child.
I BLAME those racist people who live in and out of Ethiopia, instead of doing some thing good for the country/people,they spray their toxic and inefficient political view.
09/16/09 @ 00:22
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Have you heard fellow the leader?
When you have a beggar leader does not have any shame, what do you expect from desperate citizens the only thing they know is breeding kids and until you die by starvation.
Ethiopian leaders and intellectuals and most so called politicians do not have sense of shame and pride to their country. If people were thought family planning, the country would not fall to such situation. Every Ethiopian wants to be PM of the country and there is no one to work hard and make a difference to the larger society of the country. I have been in on this website over a year; I have not seen from any intellectual advice or give their professional opinions to the country what to do in every sector of the economy except spewing their political agenda.
If Indian intellectuals are teaching Ethiopian youths via videos, why not Ethiopians in Diaspora do the same thing to their country?
When you have a beggar leader does not have any shame, what do you expect from desperate citizens the only thing they know is breeding kids and until you die by starvation.
Ethiopian leaders and intellectuals and most so called politicians do not have sense of shame and pride to their country. If people were thought family planning, the country would not fall to such situation. Every Ethiopian wants to be PM of the country and there is no one to work hard and make a difference to the larger society of the country. I have been in on this website over a year; I have not seen from any intellectual advice or give their professional opinions to the country what to do in every sector of the economy except spewing their political agenda.
If Indian intellectuals are teaching Ethiopian youths via videos, why not Ethiopians in Diaspora do the same thing to their country?
09/16/09 @ 00:33
Comment from: Andolem [Visitor]
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2009/s2686908.htm
watch the video, I never thought child adoption completely wrong until I watched the video.
It is disgusting, and betrayal to the society of all Ethiopian. Child adaptation, only for children who does not have a support by both parents or relatives. This is absolutely human trafficking, and modern slavery.
God bless.
watch the video, I never thought child adoption completely wrong until I watched the video.
It is disgusting, and betrayal to the society of all Ethiopian. Child adaptation, only for children who does not have a support by both parents or relatives. This is absolutely human trafficking, and modern slavery.
God bless.
09/16/09 @ 01:40
Comment from: mandingo [Visitor]
I am ashamed to call myself ethiopian.
and those tigres who brought these shame and suffering on our people shall pay for it dearly.
death to all tigres
and those tigres who brought these shame and suffering on our people shall pay for it dearly.
death to all tigres
09/16/09 @ 01:46
Comment from: ZXAmiche [Visitor]
Sovereignity/Government for sale!
Mercinaries for sale!
Land for sale!
Maids for sale!
and now, worst, children for sale!
siga KuTer bilut, Tafia,
ager astedader bilut, WoyAne mafia!
aye "Mama Ethiopia", yinega yihon lelitu?
Mercinaries for sale!
Land for sale!
Maids for sale!
and now, worst, children for sale!
siga KuTer bilut, Tafia,
ager astedader bilut, WoyAne mafia!
aye "Mama Ethiopia", yinega yihon lelitu?
09/16/09 @ 03:11
Comment from: Didagirl [Visitor]
I have a major concern here: Firstly, if you can't write in plain English for a kindergaten to comprehend please keep your opinions to yourself and remain in your parking lot boot or better still roam around town with your taxi cab because it is becoming too frustrating to sit up here and read comments posted by illiterate punks testing their keyboards and dashing into any key they find at a glance.
Suffix to say here that the answer to the problem with adoption is not adoption itself rather it is the fact that young boys and girls should use protection when they are not ready to be parents. Even those who are educated are not guaranteed a bright future these days needless to say those who didn't. I bet y'all should keep quiet and let these kind hearted whitees clean up your dirty country from impoverish children unsure of what the future holds for them. The truth is, some of the visa lottery holders here still live like adopted "kids" with their low thinking mentality and no drive to be educated and independent, so what rights have some of you to challenge the whitees who are doing sanitation on the streets of Ethiopia? You guys are very good with condemnation and criticism yet you fail to realize that the best one could do for their kids is feed them with the best life has to offer. Every little thing is blamed on the government and woyane, is it woyane that gave birth to all the poor kids sent out with no future on the streets? Someone has got to do the dirty job somehow so let these adoption agency make money out of the system. When Angelina and Brad pitt adopted Zahara weren't there showers of praises and love on the couples for their humanitarianism? Why are people all of a sudden reigning curses at the whitees? Y'all talk about culture as if it puts food on the table. Why aren't those of you so rich with cultural values showing charitable love to the abandoned kids in Ethiopia? You hardly come across an organization or a group of people trying to change lives as far as helping the poor in Ethiopia because most of them are so consumed with fixing their poor family condition to an extent that they become enslaved to work in the USA as if they are trying to build rome in one day, yet, they are the first to raise eye brows on the whites trying to show some love. Face it; It may not make sense to you but there is a popular saying that "you scratch my back, I scratch your back" granted, most of these whitees maybe all the names you call them and may resort to adopting from Ethiopia, but let it be known to you that it wouldn't be possible without the consent of the parents---be it for monetary gains or otherwise, the fact remains someone definitely may be trading these kids for a better life and for monetary gains in return. Either way it goes, it is a win-win situation and the rest is history: So before you open your Flourine contaminated toothless mouth, remember that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, somebody has got to be on the receiving end, imagine what it would be like if most of these kids are not cleaned up from the streets. They'd probably die of HIV-AIDS like most other kids and adults already are. Phew!
Suffix to say here that the answer to the problem with adoption is not adoption itself rather it is the fact that young boys and girls should use protection when they are not ready to be parents. Even those who are educated are not guaranteed a bright future these days needless to say those who didn't. I bet y'all should keep quiet and let these kind hearted whitees clean up your dirty country from impoverish children unsure of what the future holds for them. The truth is, some of the visa lottery holders here still live like adopted "kids" with their low thinking mentality and no drive to be educated and independent, so what rights have some of you to challenge the whitees who are doing sanitation on the streets of Ethiopia? You guys are very good with condemnation and criticism yet you fail to realize that the best one could do for their kids is feed them with the best life has to offer. Every little thing is blamed on the government and woyane, is it woyane that gave birth to all the poor kids sent out with no future on the streets? Someone has got to do the dirty job somehow so let these adoption agency make money out of the system. When Angelina and Brad pitt adopted Zahara weren't there showers of praises and love on the couples for their humanitarianism? Why are people all of a sudden reigning curses at the whitees? Y'all talk about culture as if it puts food on the table. Why aren't those of you so rich with cultural values showing charitable love to the abandoned kids in Ethiopia? You hardly come across an organization or a group of people trying to change lives as far as helping the poor in Ethiopia because most of them are so consumed with fixing their poor family condition to an extent that they become enslaved to work in the USA as if they are trying to build rome in one day, yet, they are the first to raise eye brows on the whites trying to show some love. Face it; It may not make sense to you but there is a popular saying that "you scratch my back, I scratch your back" granted, most of these whitees maybe all the names you call them and may resort to adopting from Ethiopia, but let it be known to you that it wouldn't be possible without the consent of the parents---be it for monetary gains or otherwise, the fact remains someone definitely may be trading these kids for a better life and for monetary gains in return. Either way it goes, it is a win-win situation and the rest is history: So before you open your Flourine contaminated toothless mouth, remember that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, somebody has got to be on the receiving end, imagine what it would be like if most of these kids are not cleaned up from the streets. They'd probably die of HIV-AIDS like most other kids and adults already are. Phew!
09/16/09 @ 03:38
Comment from: biya [Visitor]
Ato,
Why am I not surprised that you got kicked out? You needed to be kicked out and kicked perhaps. What do you mean by "challenging Whites"?? That right there shows there's fundamentally something wrong with the way you are approaching the issue.
Why am I not surprised that you got kicked out? You needed to be kicked out and kicked perhaps. What do you mean by "challenging Whites"?? That right there shows there's fundamentally something wrong with the way you are approaching the issue.
09/16/09 @ 05:04
Comment from: YEMSRACH [Visitor]
THE TRUTH,
What the hell are you talking about? How many adopted kids from Ethiopia do you know who ended up in Jail? I don't think you can name one. c'ome on dude. The Ethiopian kids that i know who end up in jail are those who are raise by habesha parents. we have seen a few of them on Nazret.com
I know china has the fastes growing economy but there are still lots of poor people in chaina. Where do you get the idea that chines are adopting from other countries? Talking about chines don't like to adopt black kids???
You are wondering why they speak to them in Italian? Did you expect them to speak to them in Amharic? "yet heje lefenda ale"
You are filled with so much negitivity. Get your facts right.
What the hell are you talking about? How many adopted kids from Ethiopia do you know who ended up in Jail? I don't think you can name one. c'ome on dude. The Ethiopian kids that i know who end up in jail are those who are raise by habesha parents. we have seen a few of them on Nazret.com
I know china has the fastes growing economy but there are still lots of poor people in chaina. Where do you get the idea that chines are adopting from other countries? Talking about chines don't like to adopt black kids???
You are wondering why they speak to them in Italian? Did you expect them to speak to them in Amharic? "yet heje lefenda ale"
You are filled with so much negitivity. Get your facts right.
09/16/09 @ 05:28
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Mamo Gada and some of you sound real fools or you might be one of those people who captalize in the lives of this poor children.
The govrnment might have failed in adressing these issues, but this is not the way we make the voices of the mothers of those poor children or the innocent children who are adopted herad.
By insulting and putting your political agenda forward...you are not helping. Rather you should focus how you can contribute and help those people. Put forward some constructive ideas to the government and also to those parents who give up their children and the white people/adopting families.
What should be done before adopting a child. Are there preconditions for adopting a child. Are those unregitred agencies should continue to do same thing...should they be punished even pay the parents what they deserve.. money...their children to come back and visit etc etc
By insulting TPLE/ELF what ever you name the,,you are exacerbating and hardening the hearts of those people.
Please read carefully again the article written by Mary very crefully. In my understanding she was not even there to report on adoption, rather about the famine.
But she is giving an insight to those people who want to adopt a child/children from Ethiopia.
It is well written and I belive will bring some sort of regulation regarding adoption...at least Ozs will not be involoved in this kind of business..you know by at least going to those few registred places.
As i have said before..this is a very sensitive area..please think before writing anything..you might be hurting some one...an adopted family/child...after all we are also adopted to Australia/England/usa in one way or another...For sme of us it has been years sine we saw our parents..brothers and sisters. So they are not alone.
Please Mary do not be dicouraged by with some of these coments above...we would love to hear more from you. We also appreciate if you comment on the comments above...so that we all can work together to takle the problem
Be good guys..see you soon
The govrnment might have failed in adressing these issues, but this is not the way we make the voices of the mothers of those poor children or the innocent children who are adopted herad.
By insulting and putting your political agenda forward...you are not helping. Rather you should focus how you can contribute and help those people. Put forward some constructive ideas to the government and also to those parents who give up their children and the white people/adopting families.
What should be done before adopting a child. Are there preconditions for adopting a child. Are those unregitred agencies should continue to do same thing...should they be punished even pay the parents what they deserve.. money...their children to come back and visit etc etc
By insulting TPLE/ELF what ever you name the,,you are exacerbating and hardening the hearts of those people.
Please read carefully again the article written by Mary very crefully. In my understanding she was not even there to report on adoption, rather about the famine.
But she is giving an insight to those people who want to adopt a child/children from Ethiopia.
It is well written and I belive will bring some sort of regulation regarding adoption...at least Ozs will not be involoved in this kind of business..you know by at least going to those few registred places.
As i have said before..this is a very sensitive area..please think before writing anything..you might be hurting some one...an adopted family/child...after all we are also adopted to Australia/England/usa in one way or another...For sme of us it has been years sine we saw our parents..brothers and sisters. So they are not alone.
Please Mary do not be dicouraged by with some of these coments above...we would love to hear more from you. We also appreciate if you comment on the comments above...so that we all can work together to takle the problem
Be good guys..see you soon
09/16/09 @ 08:32
Comment from: Beth [Visitor]
This is very hard to read and to hear. My daughters are Ethiopian, and we feel very fortunate to have blended our family with their family in Ethiopia. We remain very close to our family in Addis, and try very very hard to keep our american family connected to Ethiopian culture. I am sad that they will not experience day to day life in their birth country, but here they do have a chance at a good education that will help them to help our Ethiopia. I do know from experience that corruption amongst agencies is rampant in Ethiopia, and it hurts my soul to see children leave there, come here, and no one ever speaks of Ethiopia again.
09/16/09 @ 09:20
Comment from: wadani [Visitor]
In the first place,why these many num of Ethiopian children needed adoption? Why Ethiopia,a country rich and full of resources can't feed her peoples and childern needs.
09/16/09 @ 09:36
Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]
I always knew that Woyanes are exporting Ethiopian babies where ever there is a buyer. Only God knows how many of those helpless kids has fallen in the hands of pedophiles and other similar criminals. They certainly will grow up cursing the parents who have gave them away and the country who has created a conducive environment for human trafficking criminals who have snatched and shipped them to unknown land. Under the treasonous woyane's mercenary government, look what Ethiopia has become known for? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy the remaining decency and dignity in the country.
Shegaw aka Woizero Arogit, i'm suspecting that you are one of the beneficiaries of the booming human trafficking business in Ethiopia. For a wicked and resentful old woman like yourself, selling Ethiopian citizens is no different from drinking a camel's milk. Stop lying you Shegata Arogit.
Shegaw aka Woizero Arogit, i'm suspecting that you are one of the beneficiaries of the booming human trafficking business in Ethiopia. For a wicked and resentful old woman like yourself, selling Ethiopian citizens is no different from drinking a camel's milk. Stop lying you Shegata Arogit.
09/16/09 @ 10:31
Comment from: Gezaee [Visitor]
Didagirl,
This is not a white or race provlem. As you said many whites are trying to help. We know that. I think this is not a race problem. This is a national problem. This is a national problem emanated from national politial, economic, social poverty.
People say this is not the governments problem? Let us be realistic and rational, what is the purpose of having a government if the government does not take any accountability to its citizens? what is it for? Why people try to tell us this should be outside politics? you must give reasons why we are being called toxic and venomous when we say the government failed its people?
This is pure political problem, it did not start with the present government only, it started from Haileslassie time? Now it is not just getting better, it is getting worse. The government must have drawn policies which protect the country, politically, socially, territorially? the government failed on all respect so far. The government has been engaged in activities that demotivate citizen, divide the people, and dismember the land. This is the reality we have on the ground. Whether we like it or not, our people and our land are on sell bazzar.
I do not blame any foreigners for all these. I blame only the leaders and the people of Ethiopia for all these. Look, the bishops in the orthodox church having been fighting for power. Our people wasting their lives to become leaders. We are not better than Somalians.
My appeal still to Ethiopians, please, feel pity for your people, stop being selfish, and please unite, all these bad things are happenning probably for a reason. The need now, we need to address the problem. We cannot keep on condemning each other non-stop.
09/16/09 @ 10:43
Comment from: Dagnachew Koru [Visitor]
If Australians saying we were perfect, is that really true? The Australians or British, the Italians or the Greeks, the Irish or Americans all of them were not white? are they not the immigrant from the above countries to USA? All of them their root is not from Europe? Why this lady trying to put herself up? For me white is white including disabled one. Don't full me girl! Permee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09/16/09 @ 10:58
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
Free [Member]
Like I said before - I became the thorn in your throat - You cannot swallow me or spit me out - I am there to give uninterrupted kicks to your free ass.
By the way I am not - "one of the beneficiaries of the booming human trafficking business in Ethiopia." as you want to portray me in your BS comment. You are such a miserable faggot
Like I said before - I became the thorn in your throat - You cannot swallow me or spit me out - I am there to give uninterrupted kicks to your free ass.
By the way I am not - "one of the beneficiaries of the booming human trafficking business in Ethiopia." as you want to portray me in your BS comment. You are such a miserable faggot
09/16/09 @ 11:40
Comment from: V [Visitor]
Where were the social workers when American adoptive parents killed their Russian adoptive children and where were the social workers when two Ethiopian children were molested by their French adoptive father in July 2008?
I know that the majority of adoptive parents are caring and loving but we have to protect all children. Only few families are adopting to help the poor kids. The majority around 90 % would never consider adoption if they were able to get a child of their own or would be able to get a white child in their country or other countries.
Do you know that the adoption cost for black Americans are less than for white Americans? Asian, Mixed races and Hispanics are in the middle range. They are human beings not commodities but the demand for white children is so high that the prices are high to.
Adoption should be done only by government organizations not private so called non-profit organizations. I am aware of corruption in governmental organizations, so the prices of adoption should be fixed. Today every agency can set its own price.
I know that the majority of adoptive parents are caring and loving but we have to protect all children. Only few families are adopting to help the poor kids. The majority around 90 % would never consider adoption if they were able to get a child of their own or would be able to get a white child in their country or other countries.
Do you know that the adoption cost for black Americans are less than for white Americans? Asian, Mixed races and Hispanics are in the middle range. They are human beings not commodities but the demand for white children is so high that the prices are high to.
Adoption should be done only by government organizations not private so called non-profit organizations. I am aware of corruption in governmental organizations, so the prices of adoption should be fixed. Today every agency can set its own price.
09/16/09 @ 11:52
Comment from: Kettle [Visitor]
Didagirl,
Typical case of kettle calling the pot black.
"....Suffix to say here that the answer to the problem with adoption is not adoption itself rather it is the fact that young boys and girls should use protection when they are not ready to be parents."
First of all you don't know whether the the kids were born to young men & women or to middle aged parents. You are commenting based on your own conjecture.
Your irritation at people who don't write English well shows that you are spoiled snob. So buzz off and comment on other websites which can put up with your poor girl's snobbery. Ethiopians are tired of a few elites putting them down. The days of spoiled little schoolgirls lecturing to Ethiopians is numbered.
Typical case of kettle calling the pot black.
"....Suffix to say here that the answer to the problem with adoption is not adoption itself rather it is the fact that young boys and girls should use protection when they are not ready to be parents."
First of all you don't know whether the the kids were born to young men & women or to middle aged parents. You are commenting based on your own conjecture.
Your irritation at people who don't write English well shows that you are spoiled snob. So buzz off and comment on other websites which can put up with your poor girl's snobbery. Ethiopians are tired of a few elites putting them down. The days of spoiled little schoolgirls lecturing to Ethiopians is numbered.
09/16/09 @ 11:57
Comment from: birhan [Visitor]
Our kids brought about 100m last year; its is almost as big as Chat export. The junta and its people are not happy IF YOU QUESTION THEIR BUSINESS.
09/16/09 @ 14:08
Comment from: lij [Visitor]
Kettle,
I second your input. It is exciting that everyone can speak up, educated or non educated. Thanks to the age of the Internet. This is democracy and everyone's opinion matters minus vulgar language of course.
I second your input. It is exciting that everyone can speak up, educated or non educated. Thanks to the age of the Internet. This is democracy and everyone's opinion matters minus vulgar language of course.
09/16/09 @ 14:23
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
Shegaw aka Woizero Condjo,
. . .you are universal arogit LOL!
when you left in twin tower in Malasya?. . .. . .WC, im not wonder why you always praise and worship your stupid master since you patronage his selling businesses. . .it is exposed how this large scale human trafficking happening in our country by the hands of your master with his stupid puppet sleeping lawmakers. . .
. . .but, i am luckier than you that at the end of life i will be buried in my own grave in Ethiopia, not like you. . .so, enjoy and feel the one of the hot commodities in other country LOL!
09/16/09 @ 14:28
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
Gezaee,
. . .this is unstoppable, while "the leader of the band" continue leading his wand to his stupid musicians. . .
09/16/09 @ 14:56
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Why must Ethiopians in the first place do have to speak English? why must our people be measured their ability by english?
Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english. Why do we need english outside international affaires? English is the culprit of our backwardness. We wasting our lives study someone's language vocabulary.
We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture. Noone can civilize by destroying oneself. Not using ones langauge is like destroying onself.
Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language. Now Meles is introducing Arabic. He hate anything Ethiopian. He loves anything foreign starting from money to anything he can find.
We have no now a national language because he hates Ethiopian langauge. This is a part and a parcel of the problem.
09/16/09 @ 15:49
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Lemelem
I don't think some people are getting what is this all about. Specially/recently Lemelem. Where is the connection between your comment and the article...or did you by mistake came to the wrong article...is so, please copy your article and send it somewhere else..
If you have any issues about English.take it with Obama or with Mr Gordon Brown. After all language is for communication. I do not want to go to lengthy detail..but you comments are irrelevant..feyel wedeih kezemzem wedezya.
But I am glad to hear from one of you guys who adopted children from America. Guys keep up the good work and also try to help the rest of the kids get some sort of connection with their bilogical parents and culture.
For Marry, do not be alarmed or surprised by most of the comments above. That is why Ethiopia is getting backwards. If yo ask any of these guys who are barking behind a computer, to take care of one of these kids for one day...they will give you 100s of excuses. But to open their mouth via media and ciritsize...they are the first to put their hands up. So do not be dicouraged..I say Good on you Go Girl !
I don't think some people are getting what is this all about. Specially/recently Lemelem. Where is the connection between your comment and the article...or did you by mistake came to the wrong article...is so, please copy your article and send it somewhere else..
If you have any issues about English.take it with Obama or with Mr Gordon Brown. After all language is for communication. I do not want to go to lengthy detail..but you comments are irrelevant..feyel wedeih kezemzem wedezya.
But I am glad to hear from one of you guys who adopted children from America. Guys keep up the good work and also try to help the rest of the kids get some sort of connection with their bilogical parents and culture.
For Marry, do not be alarmed or surprised by most of the comments above. That is why Ethiopia is getting backwards. If yo ask any of these guys who are barking behind a computer, to take care of one of these kids for one day...they will give you 100s of excuses. But to open their mouth via media and ciritsize...they are the first to put their hands up. So do not be dicouraged..I say Good on you Go Girl !
09/16/09 @ 18:19
Comment from: 2 z Didagirl [Visitor]
Once, Voltaire said the following:
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you committ atrocities.
I'm inspired by this and decided to challenge Didagirl.
Didagirl [Visitor ! The following (4) are taken from your post and I earnestly ask you to support your accusations with facts _for your convenience I have scribbled few things..
1. “Every little thing is blamed on the government and woyane,,,,”
As far as I understand here we are talking about the abuse of citizens rights and in some of the cases raised even we are talking about the very existence of them. How dare you consider it as a “Every little thing “? Isn’t protecting citizens from anything one of the paramount responsibilities of a gov?
2. “…is it woyane that gave birth to all the poor kids sent out with no future on the streets?”
What if somebody comes up to you and says “Yes! Yes!…if not the biological parent…its system have created the situation…Your ethnic policy didn‘t solve our problems, if it didn‘t create new ones. The war the agents of Eritrea in addis and asmara waged among themselves left thousands of kids without parents…your ethnic policy aggravated the unemployment problem and parents couldn‘t feed their kids_citizens who can‘t move from region to region to find jobs…etc.etc….”
What would be your answer?
If another person asks you,”Isn’t teaching its citizens the role of a gov?, what would be your answer?
3. “Y'all talk about culture as if it puts food on the table.”
How do you define ADOPTION?
How do you define “culture”?
I’m not an expert on the subject. But thanks to this modern tech. I have some ideas and I couldn’t understand what you’re talking here. Is it a slip of the pen?
4."...if you can't write in plain English for a kindergaten to comprehend please keep your opinions to yourself and remain in your parking lot boot or better still roam around town with your taxi cab because it is becoming too frustrating to sit up here and read comments posted by illiterate punks testing their keyboards and dashing into any key they find at a glance."
Have you ever heard the following saying: "You harvest what you saw."?
Your citizens couldn't coupe with other countries and are engaged in the sector of the economy you belittle. They're the victim of your EDUCATION POLICY. Don't you agree with me?
You're the one to run away from such sites and JOIN your gangs. WE will continue to do our best with this job here...We don't need your advice...
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you committ atrocities.
I'm inspired by this and decided to challenge Didagirl.
Didagirl [Visitor ! The following (4) are taken from your post and I earnestly ask you to support your accusations with facts _for your convenience I have scribbled few things..
1. “Every little thing is blamed on the government and woyane,,,,”
As far as I understand here we are talking about the abuse of citizens rights and in some of the cases raised even we are talking about the very existence of them. How dare you consider it as a “Every little thing “? Isn’t protecting citizens from anything one of the paramount responsibilities of a gov?
2. “…is it woyane that gave birth to all the poor kids sent out with no future on the streets?”
What if somebody comes up to you and says “Yes! Yes!…if not the biological parent…its system have created the situation…Your ethnic policy didn‘t solve our problems, if it didn‘t create new ones. The war the agents of Eritrea in addis and asmara waged among themselves left thousands of kids without parents…your ethnic policy aggravated the unemployment problem and parents couldn‘t feed their kids_citizens who can‘t move from region to region to find jobs…etc.etc….”
What would be your answer?
If another person asks you,”Isn’t teaching its citizens the role of a gov?, what would be your answer?
3. “Y'all talk about culture as if it puts food on the table.”
How do you define ADOPTION?
How do you define “culture”?
I’m not an expert on the subject. But thanks to this modern tech. I have some ideas and I couldn’t understand what you’re talking here. Is it a slip of the pen?
4."...if you can't write in plain English for a kindergaten to comprehend please keep your opinions to yourself and remain in your parking lot boot or better still roam around town with your taxi cab because it is becoming too frustrating to sit up here and read comments posted by illiterate punks testing their keyboards and dashing into any key they find at a glance."
Have you ever heard the following saying: "You harvest what you saw."?
Your citizens couldn't coupe with other countries and are engaged in the sector of the economy you belittle. They're the victim of your EDUCATION POLICY. Don't you agree with me?
You're the one to run away from such sites and JOIN your gangs. WE will continue to do our best with this job here...We don't need your advice...
09/16/09 @ 18:26
Comment from: 2 z red herring [Visitor]
Lemlem [Visitor!
Learning English is not to be condemned. It is a plus. First of all it is spoken all over the world. Second many of the civilizations are written or translated to this language.
On the otherhand,speaking several languages is important for development....
Our problem is our education policy. Did you get sufficient and skilled teachers, materials... to learn the language?
I have been taught amharic upto 12th grade. But I can't write a simple essay in amharic, let alone in English.
Your other point_national language_ is a very important point which these melesas don't want to hear or talk about.
This issue should be addressed by all who care for the country.
People should move from region to region (in the country) and work...
Personally, I don't care which language/s be the national language...as far as justified.
Learning English is not to be condemned. It is a plus. First of all it is spoken all over the world. Second many of the civilizations are written or translated to this language.
On the otherhand,speaking several languages is important for development....
Our problem is our education policy. Did you get sufficient and skilled teachers, materials... to learn the language?
I have been taught amharic upto 12th grade. But I can't write a simple essay in amharic, let alone in English.
Your other point_national language_ is a very important point which these melesas don't want to hear or talk about.
This issue should be addressed by all who care for the country.
People should move from region to region (in the country) and work...
Personally, I don't care which language/s be the national language...as far as justified.
09/16/09 @ 18:45
Comment from: Aden1 [Visitor]
lij is in lala land [Visitor:
The first two paragraphs of your comment need serious revision( Permalink 09/15/09 @ 14:24).
All your demeaning insult of an entire society aside, the following is facts from general observation and comment based as a witness.
-It is very common for Ethiopian families to add-on extended family members an/or outsiders into their homes, blend them and form a close knit of a family network, which is very recommended in any society for a healthy environment of childrens’ formative years. It is not necessarily termed as adoption.
-“Modern” Ethiopian families/college educated and /or sufficient income of a house hold of two working parents who have problem conceiving, adopt other Ethiopian babies in Ethiopia and raise them as their own in the best definition of your version of western “adoption”.
-Gudeficha, which is Oromiya’s culture is another version of the above mentioned two. In fact,it depends on circumstances of the birth parents. It was not uncommon for birth parents who are both at war front during the Italian invasion, to entrust children to stayable country side Oromo families and a token of payment complemented the arrangement. Later, the child/ren were reclaimed and both sides of the families continued a decent relation, and in fact, after the children were grown, they were helping out the Gudeficha families. It was also a good way for Amara children to learn Oromogna. There was no fixation on ethnicism then.
-This generation might be different when it comes to intermarrying spouses who already have children. It used to be common for the generation 50 plus. As life style and demand changes, so does some previous norm.
I am not sure how much of "old" and "new" Ethiopia you know of. May be you might be very young?
The first two paragraphs of your comment need serious revision( Permalink 09/15/09 @ 14:24).
All your demeaning insult of an entire society aside, the following is facts from general observation and comment based as a witness.
-It is very common for Ethiopian families to add-on extended family members an/or outsiders into their homes, blend them and form a close knit of a family network, which is very recommended in any society for a healthy environment of childrens’ formative years. It is not necessarily termed as adoption.
-“Modern” Ethiopian families/college educated and /or sufficient income of a house hold of two working parents who have problem conceiving, adopt other Ethiopian babies in Ethiopia and raise them as their own in the best definition of your version of western “adoption”.
-Gudeficha, which is Oromiya’s culture is another version of the above mentioned two. In fact,it depends on circumstances of the birth parents. It was not uncommon for birth parents who are both at war front during the Italian invasion, to entrust children to stayable country side Oromo families and a token of payment complemented the arrangement. Later, the child/ren were reclaimed and both sides of the families continued a decent relation, and in fact, after the children were grown, they were helping out the Gudeficha families. It was also a good way for Amara children to learn Oromogna. There was no fixation on ethnicism then.
-This generation might be different when it comes to intermarrying spouses who already have children. It used to be common for the generation 50 plus. As life style and demand changes, so does some previous norm.
I am not sure how much of "old" and "new" Ethiopia you know of. May be you might be very young?
09/16/09 @ 19:23
Comment from: Ali roble [Visitor]
Didigirl
You complain about the lack of plain English. What about yours? I'm guilty all of these stuff and I don't cgeck my notes often but I can't make any sense out of yours either.
In you short,rumbling paragraph,what do mean by -kindergarten
-boot
-suffix
-whitees
-cab taxi
-Brad pitt, etc.
Isn't seem the pot accusing the kettle as being black? Get over it!
You complain about the lack of plain English. What about yours? I'm guilty all of these stuff and I don't cgeck my notes often but I can't make any sense out of yours either.
In you short,rumbling paragraph,what do mean by -kindergarten
-boot
-suffix
-whitees
-cab taxi
-Brad pitt, etc.
Isn't seem the pot accusing the kettle as being black? Get over it!
09/16/09 @ 20:01
Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]
Emama Shelle, you are a nagging thorn to nobody but the miserable self that is imprisoned within the cursed and heartless person that you are. For a self hating Arogit woman like you, "harvesting kids" like a third world's cheap banana or coffee so that they can be exported and sold in foreign markets using misinformation and falsified documents is nothing but a humanitarian activity. In the other word, for you there is nothing wrong with human trafficking even if the victims are helpless little kids. Now, i understand that a country that can not protect children does not deserve a future, but what can be said about the cruel animals like you, the politicians on power, and those retarded evangelists who are profiting from this very business? Moronic beast! A government that is surviving on beggary, slavery, and human trafficking does not deserve to rule or govern a village let alone a country as big as Ethiopia. According to the documentary, the mafia government does not want to loss its 100million dollar a year income from the business and that explains why the criminals on power have no interest of ending the abduction especially given the 5million kids(though I suspect this figure is one of the misinformation the human traffickers has spread for their own advantage, and that i don't really believe there are that many orphans in the country) who have become orphans under their dictatorial rule, but the retarded you, who is still mightily struggling to accept who she is, have no problem to cheer for it. For anyone specially Ethiopians with the brain and conscience, this is a heart breaking documentary and another source of embarrassment and reason to despise the treasonous regime on power even more.
09/16/09 @ 20:52
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
Free [Member]
Here is another garbage you wrote:"A government that.. does not deserve to rule or govern a village let alone a country as big as Ethiopia.
But the government that you are impling has been governing you and your miserable ethnic groups for 18 years and is planning to do for another 81 years more. How about that for projecting in the future?
Here is another garbage you wrote:"A government that.. does not deserve to rule or govern a village let alone a country as big as Ethiopia.
But the government that you are impling has been governing you and your miserable ethnic groups for 18 years and is planning to do for another 81 years more. How about that for projecting in the future?
09/16/09 @ 22:22
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Edrem,
Since you believe adoption is good. I am not really in a level to discuss anything with you. I do beleive, people like you must be wiped out from Ethiopia. People who have lost any dignity.
Efrem, you better say then the whole 80 million must be adopted? not only the small kids, but everyone in Ethiopia? By the way, the whole nations Ethiopia is adopted since its national budget 70% donation from western churchs.
If Ethiopia has to be redeemed, people like you must be wiped out from the country and then we can have new generation of Ethiopia who have dignity and respect for themselves.
Also someone said, English is bonus, look know any language is a bonus, not only english? even knowing Chinese, Japenese, French, Arabic,... is a bonus, but not at the expense of ones own language.
Technology, or civilization does not belong to English? The science and Technology, civilzation in english has been translated from Greek, Arabic, chinese, Japanese ... and civilization has nothing to do with the english language. Civilization did not come from english.
Inorder to benefit our people, we must have developed our langauge, translated science from English, chinese, arabic, greek, Russian, French, ... to our langauge. However, we are bewitched by english. People like you are totally brainwashsed and think they cannot civilize without english? this is an ignorance? By saying that, we have blacked out our people from Technology? Technology is not accessible to Ethiopian? the 80 million people are totally blacked out from technology of because of the useless education system. Is there any single Ethiopian high tech company ?
The whole nation is an adopted nation, language adopted , food adopted, everything adopted. The new thing now the business of children, selling land
Shame on us Ethiopians. Even the way our people think is behind time.
09/16/09 @ 22:28
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Herring,
I WAS responding to one commentator. I was not talking to you man. Someone saying even they cannot talk english. I was responding to that.
I WAS responding to one commentator. I was not talking to you man. Someone saying even they cannot talk english. I was responding to that.
09/16/09 @ 22:32
Comment from: henok [Visitor]
Maybe it's good for the child to grow with full facility the sad thing is child adoption is becoming a business and many parents have never get the chance to hear about their child again that’s heart breaking.
09/16/09 @ 23:29
Comment from: 2 z red herring [Visitor]
Lemlem warned a commentator she calls Herring as follows: "...I was not talking to you man..."
I think Lemlem is a novice for the forum.
Whom are you talking to when you say the following:
"...Technology, or civilization does not belong to English? The science and Technology, civilzation in english has been translated from Greek, Arabic, chinese, Japanese ... and civilization has nothing to do with the english language. Civilization did not come from english." ?
I didn't read something like what you're talking about.
Lemlem wrote,
"... people like you must be wiped out from the country.."
I pray GOD to save us from Lemlem.
About which language were you talking when you wrote the following in your previous comment?
"...We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture..."
I think Lemlem is a novice for the forum.
Whom are you talking to when you say the following:
"...Technology, or civilization does not belong to English? The science and Technology, civilzation in english has been translated from Greek, Arabic, chinese, Japanese ... and civilization has nothing to do with the english language. Civilization did not come from english." ?
I didn't read something like what you're talking about.
Lemlem wrote,
"... people like you must be wiped out from the country.."
I pray GOD to save us from Lemlem.
About which language were you talking when you wrote the following in your previous comment?
"...We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture..."
09/16/09 @ 23:58
Comment from: Always-Visitor [Visitor]
A measure of wheat for a penny, or a framed picture for three children, what a bargain. Quite symbolic of what we are getting for selling our soul to the devil.
Meles and Co. are the devil's agents and they will not stop till our country is destroyed body and soul. May God forgive them but I can neither forget nor forgive the children of Tigray and vengeance will be mine!!!!
Meles and Co. are the devil's agents and they will not stop till our country is destroyed body and soul. May God forgive them but I can neither forget nor forgive the children of Tigray and vengeance will be mine!!!!
09/17/09 @ 00:02
Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
I think we should hold SHABIYA responsible for abusing it's adapted kids, (7 GIMOCH, KINIJIT DIASPORA, GHOST EPPF, OLF,ONLF AND EPRP.)
by taxing 500 dollars of their welfare allowance for a stupid certiface ,feed them camel's shiit and finaly sell them to prostitute for the arabs.
09/17/09 @ 01:37
Comment from: Mamo Gada [Visitor]
Efrem
I am sorry to see such level of ignorance and lack of understanding of reason, logic and deductive and inductive arguments. If you look over what you wrote, you are contradicting your own point. What a loser, unfortunately for you to understand what I wrote it will take you ages. My suggestion to you is that before you tempt to express your point of view, know what your point is and develop authority on the subject. Don’t sway like pendulum for who ever with creative writing skill. Look I’m not questioning your point of view, rather your approach to any given subject. If you are a studies this is a learning moment.
09/17/09 @ 02:17
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
Lemlem,
. . .dont vomit whatever you swallowed. . .and why you wrote your comment in English? come on!
09/17/09 @ 03:45
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
Lemlem [Visitor]
When we taught we have heard all kind of idiocy on nazret.com then comes this absurd comment from this lunatic Lemlem - Here is what this person wrote: "the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english."
1. Yo lemlem - Ethiopia remains backward because there is no enough books translated from European languages to your fucken amarigna - all the books in technology and scientific research are written either in English, German or French and there are tons of people who had mastered these languages and translating all these books into their native language. For your info - the problem with Ethiopia is the language of instruction should have remained in English like it was during Haile - if English was taught from elementary all the way to universities then there was no need for these scientific books to be translated into your amarigna.
Unfortunately, now since there are no enough translators it is taking for ever for these scientific books to be translated into your amarigna. And that is the main reason why Ethiopia has remained backward. And not the other way around like you are assuming it.
Ten you wrote - "Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language"
2. What the fuck are you talking? Meles never introduced Latin - both the Oromos and the somalis have opted to write their language in Latin
In fact to tell to the amhara people that they don't need to use the amarigna alphabets to write in Afan Oromo or in Somali.
3. Yo Lemlem when you are under the influence of drugs please find other venue to entertain yourself and please refrain yourself from writing all kind of rubbish.
When we taught we have heard all kind of idiocy on nazret.com then comes this absurd comment from this lunatic Lemlem - Here is what this person wrote: "the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english."
1. Yo lemlem - Ethiopia remains backward because there is no enough books translated from European languages to your fucken amarigna - all the books in technology and scientific research are written either in English, German or French and there are tons of people who had mastered these languages and translating all these books into their native language. For your info - the problem with Ethiopia is the language of instruction should have remained in English like it was during Haile - if English was taught from elementary all the way to universities then there was no need for these scientific books to be translated into your amarigna.
Unfortunately, now since there are no enough translators it is taking for ever for these scientific books to be translated into your amarigna. And that is the main reason why Ethiopia has remained backward. And not the other way around like you are assuming it.
Ten you wrote - "Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language"
2. What the fuck are you talking? Meles never introduced Latin - both the Oromos and the somalis have opted to write their language in Latin
In fact to tell to the amhara people that they don't need to use the amarigna alphabets to write in Afan Oromo or in Somali.
3. Yo Lemlem when you are under the influence of drugs please find other venue to entertain yourself and please refrain yourself from writing all kind of rubbish.
09/17/09 @ 04:35
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Lemlem,
Your name sounds nice, but your thinking is somewhat distorted. Above all your judgments are far from the facts.
First of all this discussion or the comments you are asked is not about English language.
Secondly, you are attacking the language with out any reason.
When you comment about an article which was written precisely about adoption, write or comment about that,,thais what i say feyel wedih kezemzem wedezya.
If you have hate for English language, I can't help you with that. Your self ego is too high. The reality about is shamefull. Because we have so many of you with pariotism. Talk too much, yet doing nothing. You are good at barking behind computers with arrogant attitudes. Just look at what you said in your comment "you must be wiped out from the country" My dear that has been done in Hileselasie/Derg/now era..you might be one of those. Try to be at least nice in your writing, because i know you don't sound a nice person anyway.
You are like those Arabs and Ethiopians/Africans who always blame the west for everything.Going backwards and talking the past.. But our problem are people like you with dictatorial decessions.
Thirdly, you were contradicting yourself by talking about chinese, Greek etc.
But you know what, the anglosaxon people and their language is speaks for itself. Who are you in the first place to comment on English language. You can't eat history. History is about the past. We should really be concerned about now...our children are suffering,we are starving, people are sleeping in the streets..mothers giving up their children..what can we do about it? Your patriotic ethiopiawinet does not help here, in reality it exacerbates the situation.
Be to the point next time..if you have other issues..take it somewhere else..we will give you a feedback. Just do not write for the sake of it.
Lastly...be positive..you sound very miserable
Your name sounds nice, but your thinking is somewhat distorted. Above all your judgments are far from the facts.
First of all this discussion or the comments you are asked is not about English language.
Secondly, you are attacking the language with out any reason.
When you comment about an article which was written precisely about adoption, write or comment about that,,thais what i say feyel wedih kezemzem wedezya.
If you have hate for English language, I can't help you with that. Your self ego is too high. The reality about is shamefull. Because we have so many of you with pariotism. Talk too much, yet doing nothing. You are good at barking behind computers with arrogant attitudes. Just look at what you said in your comment "you must be wiped out from the country" My dear that has been done in Hileselasie/Derg/now era..you might be one of those. Try to be at least nice in your writing, because i know you don't sound a nice person anyway.
You are like those Arabs and Ethiopians/Africans who always blame the west for everything.Going backwards and talking the past.. But our problem are people like you with dictatorial decessions.
Thirdly, you were contradicting yourself by talking about chinese, Greek etc.
But you know what, the anglosaxon people and their language is speaks for itself. Who are you in the first place to comment on English language. You can't eat history. History is about the past. We should really be concerned about now...our children are suffering,we are starving, people are sleeping in the streets..mothers giving up their children..what can we do about it? Your patriotic ethiopiawinet does not help here, in reality it exacerbates the situation.
Be to the point next time..if you have other issues..take it somewhere else..we will give you a feedback. Just do not write for the sake of it.
Lastly...be positive..you sound very miserable
09/17/09 @ 10:28
Comment from: balegoba [Visitor]
MoGn Ye-Yazewen AyLeqem!, Free whore of Nazret repeats the same shyt over and over, childish! We are only interested in the comment, we don't care what the person behind the comment looks-like or how old/young the person is.. A person could be AzaWuent, Shimaguelle, Arrogeet, Wottaat, female, male, Who cares?? there is no Noble prize for being young or old, focus on the context of the comment.
09/17/09 @ 10:55
Comment from: Chuni [Visitor]
According to the Press Release issued on the 17/09/2009 - by Wereldkinderen (a dutch organisation) it has temporarily stopped adoption procedures from Ethiopia inorder to investigate possible abuses.
During this investigation no new adoption applications will be processed and ongoing proceedings will be held pending, until the background of the children has been checked individually.
Thusfar, the organisation has done case studies on already completed adoptions. The result showed that the background information of children do not always correspond to the information that was included in their files. Based on the analysis Wereldkinderen has made policy changes and has initiated a wider field investigation on ongoing adoption proceedings. According to the organisaion there is a large demand from overseas, including the United States, for adoptive children from Ethiopia. In four year time,the number of children adopted in the West rose from 854 to 3031.
09/17/09 @ 18:06
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Efrem, I did not write anything about Oromo, amhara,somalia.... Amharic is my national language. I prefer amharic than english? this is my choice and I believe this is the choice of the 80 million people.
I am aware there are some people who have no rational value and reject Ethiopian language and still live in Ethiopia and because of thier blind ethnic hatred, they hate amharic and prefer english.
I do not call these Ethiopians. The fact that they hate anything Ethiopian tells that they are not Ethiopian and they have some underlying inferiority complex.
Every country has a national language except Ethiopia. But these will be only for sometime. We will get it right soon.
Efrem, I did not blame the west; that is your own conjecture. The west has been feeding your for half a century now. Every church in the west collects money every year to feed Ethiopians. The west are not enemies to Ethiopia. The wests must be given thanks than blame. I do not blamee anyone. I blame brainwashed people like you Efrem? The fact that you think you know better than others is your problem Efrem. You must give your opinion. What I have written is your opinion. However, I have to blame people like you who are behind time and who are dragging Ethiopia backward in time and space.
The Ethiopian government has adopted all Djiboutian childrens since 1991. Your government sells Ethiopian children and make money and give 1 billion dollar to Djibouti.
How can we try to help our people under such circumstances? You sell children, land, flower, coffee, hide, sesame,... and you pay to Djibouti. Citizens can try to contribute their part if there is an acceptable condition at home only. Otherwise, we should I waste my life trying to work with people like you are hell bent to destroy Ethiopia?
Yalew Hulue,
you do not qualify to converse with me. You are ethnicist. I am not. I love my country to my bones regardless any ethnic. I love my national language amharic than any other foreign language.
Those of you who are spewing venom of insults, I am not going to repeat them. You are only exposing your worthilessness and uselessness. Do not even call yourself Ethiopian.
Ethiopia needs better than you guys. Ethiopia does not need people like most of you. Ethiopia does not need beggars, adoption, begging, advocates.
Ethiopian needs genuine, fearless, patriotic, and self-less citizens. Efrem, you are behind the time. Hulu you need the rest of your life to catch up with time. How you are going to do that? No one knows.
Hulu, the fact that you are pro Meles says something about you. You must be an ethnicist like him.
Whether you agree or not, Ethiopia will be delivered from all these. Amharic will be a national language soon.
Education will be in amharic from elementary to university like Japanese, Chinese, Arabs, French, Iran, Russian, Hebrew,... People will have the option to study what they want. We will have english one or two universities so that those who wanted english, like you, they can have it. However, the 80 million people can enjoy thier language be it their national language amharic or other local language. You may not like these, news, but you will see it in your life time if you live.
As I said, English is a language like any other language. Nothing special about it.
09/17/09 @ 18:53
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]
yoni,
come on psychopath!. . .it is your stupid regime is the driver of the bus, dont blame the passenger. . .
it is your useless regime suppose to investigate these large scale human trafficking. . .how you could say this "adoption" if the system under your stupid regime is plenty of lopeholes and abused!. . .let me tell you something idiot, whatever the ugly things and wrongdoings of your stupid regime, you always blame those critics, oppositions and people against your EVIL MASTER!
You FOOLISH Puppet!
09/17/09 @ 18:59
Comment from: CJ [Visitor]
the children that are being sold, oh i mean adopted are mostly from the south? why so? what is wrong with the northern children? are they not adoptable? some hidden agenda here? the children are shipped out, then a decrease in population, then there will be more land to sell to the arabs. may God protect mama Ethiopia from gib weyane
09/17/09 @ 19:10
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Lemelem, lemlem,lemlem
What is this all barking for? First of all you you need to calm down. I did not realise how sick you are.
Why do you thnik Amharic should be the national language? You are talking about 80 million people and more than half of that are Oromo speaking. Why not Oromigna? Why should the majority of people should speak in Amharic? If you are a just and fair person..stop your sensless and worthless argument. If you get out of 10 kms from Addis in every direction...people do not understand English and Amharic. They have their own culture and language. So stop advocating for 80 million people...speak for yourself. I do not speak oromoigna, but in the democratic world the majority rules and the language used is those of the people who are native.
Inferiority complex is expressed in you distorted ideas and arguments. I am behind time..hahaha..you are well ahead in your dreams.
Reality speaks for itself. In actual fact you worthless and sensless people are the ones making Ethiopia as backward as it is since the beginning. The 3000 year history/the oldest nation on earth etc etc...is not food. Do not cry through a computer and take it on us. You dragged me to your usless argument of ethinicity, whilst iam talking adoption..that how you are..very distorted.
Finally, i do not live in Ethiopia and I do not have an intention to do so in the near future. because i live in a country where there is with mutual respect and understanding. People like you with distorted mind and usless patriotism will never bring any unity to Ethiopia. Rather it will continue forever. People like you have no idea except speaking about language, ethinicity etc. Try to get out of your little hole and look the bigger picture. What went wrong in the past for us to live like this? What shall we do for the future? What can i contribute to my country when I make comments and give optmistic picture to society? etec etc not always Amharic language, oromigna etc. After all..this was not what the article is all about. Are you getting it???????? so stop moaning and groaning about ethinicity...if you do be positive...if you are Amhara speak Amharic...and leave others to decide for themselves. No body asked you to speak English or an other language.
What is this all barking for? First of all you you need to calm down. I did not realise how sick you are.
Why do you thnik Amharic should be the national language? You are talking about 80 million people and more than half of that are Oromo speaking. Why not Oromigna? Why should the majority of people should speak in Amharic? If you are a just and fair person..stop your sensless and worthless argument. If you get out of 10 kms from Addis in every direction...people do not understand English and Amharic. They have their own culture and language. So stop advocating for 80 million people...speak for yourself. I do not speak oromoigna, but in the democratic world the majority rules and the language used is those of the people who are native.
Inferiority complex is expressed in you distorted ideas and arguments. I am behind time..hahaha..you are well ahead in your dreams.
Reality speaks for itself. In actual fact you worthless and sensless people are the ones making Ethiopia as backward as it is since the beginning. The 3000 year history/the oldest nation on earth etc etc...is not food. Do not cry through a computer and take it on us. You dragged me to your usless argument of ethinicity, whilst iam talking adoption..that how you are..very distorted.
Finally, i do not live in Ethiopia and I do not have an intention to do so in the near future. because i live in a country where there is with mutual respect and understanding. People like you with distorted mind and usless patriotism will never bring any unity to Ethiopia. Rather it will continue forever. People like you have no idea except speaking about language, ethinicity etc. Try to get out of your little hole and look the bigger picture. What went wrong in the past for us to live like this? What shall we do for the future? What can i contribute to my country when I make comments and give optmistic picture to society? etec etc not always Amharic language, oromigna etc. After all..this was not what the article is all about. Are you getting it???????? so stop moaning and groaning about ethinicity...if you do be positive...if you are Amhara speak Amharic...and leave others to decide for themselves. No body asked you to speak English or an other language.
09/17/09 @ 22:03
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Mammo Geda,
You sound like your name.Mamo kilo. Instead of asking me to read what i wrote..you should go back and read your own arguments. Just read the last one. it might be a learning moment for me...but it is a life time learning opportunity/curve for you.
try to be mamao biltu next time mamoklio
You sound like your name.Mamo kilo. Instead of asking me to read what i wrote..you should go back and read your own arguments. Just read the last one. it might be a learning moment for me...but it is a life time learning opportunity/curve for you.
try to be mamao biltu next time mamoklio
09/17/09 @ 23:05
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yidenekal [Visitor]
For someone who is preaching that Amarigna should be imposed as a national language for some 60 people who do not understand it or talk this language in their homes - you are the one who has a malady called ethnic phobia. In your little head only amarigna speaking people are "Ethiopians" that tell so much about you - Maybe you are new on nazret.com but let me repeat for you with this rigid way of thinking you are about to witness Ethiopia dismantle like Yugoslavia and the first to go is - Ogaden (even your Haile could not control the Somali people) and then Harargue - Take my word seriously. Time has changed - those innocent and subservient people you ethnic group was accustomed to stampede all over them - have now change to very demanding and aggressive citizen who know their right and Addis will pay attention to what they have to say. The old way is gone And there will come a time when you guys will be missing Meles Administration because the Oromos will shred you in pieces - They have never forgotten what the amara people have done to them. So you can breathe till Meles is in power
You mentioned about Japan, Iran and India where students learn all technology and scientific research in their respective language - true - because all those books were translated into their language to be taught in their universities whereas in Ethiopia who will translate those books into you amarigna? you - anchy tub ta ba?
You mentioned about Japan, Iran and India where students learn all technology and scientific research in their respective language - true - because all those books were translated into their language to be taught in their universities whereas in Ethiopia who will translate those books into you amarigna? you - anchy tub ta ba?
09/17/09 @ 23:37
Comment from: Mamo Gada [Visitor]
Efrem,
Any one could spit, but not every one could have enlightenment. Ignorance is a mental disorder……… which is very hard to eradicate…… but could be interned………good luck in fining your shrink.
Any one could spit, but not every one could have enlightenment. Ignorance is a mental disorder……… which is very hard to eradicate…… but could be interned………good luck in fining your shrink.
09/18/09 @ 03:17
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Efrem,
There is no talking point with you. Where did I talk about ethniccity? where? you just oppose , oppose with no reason. And telling me I am talking about ethnic? Where did I talk about oromo, amhara, ...? why you give an ethnic connotation to every pieces I write? check my writing? it says I did not talk about ethnic?
Ethnic is for you, not for me. you are talking about oromo? I did not talk about ethnic. I have no interest about it. I do not care damn whether you are oromo or amhara, or Gurage. Please do not talk to me about these thing. You are telling me stories I never talked about.
If you are not suffering from inferiority complex why you do not want amharic? what is wrong to continue with the existing one than to create a new language than never existed in Ethiopia?
And the interiority complex was not written for you, it was written for someone who is hiding behind computer like you with the nick name, Hulu. Read, and answer what is referred to you. I did not say you talked about ethnic, if I did it is a mistake because it is not on my line of interest at all.
Besides, I do not talk about majority or minority like you. I advocate for every Ethiopian. You do not realize it but you are snaring yourself into the ethnic thinking, you said, oromos are majority and the majority must rule. That is stupid man. That is why I said you way behind time. The Ethiopian human whether it is Oromo, or amhara, or tigre, or Gurage, or Dorze or hadiya or... must rule by competence and merit, not by majority or minority. You will not agree because you are backward, but you are far away from me. I do not think like you. I do not care whether you are from minority or majority or oromo, or amhara. This is irrelevant for me. I know it is not for you.
Read my writing again, I said I love every Ethiopian regardless ethnic to my bones. If you connote that to ethnicity, it is your illness within you. you must liberate yourself before talking about the 80 million people.
I normally do not say I am better than others, but here I can daresay, I am way far from you. I think better than you man. Get out of your majority or minority trap and think about all, okay?
You wanted me talk about adoption? alot have been saying about it now. There is no point talking with no stop about the problem. you need to think about the cause of the problem. The main reason I raised other issues, it is because the problem of Ethiopian children trafficking has a cause? the cause is poverty due to political , economic, social, institutional problems in Ethiopia. There is no point talking about the problem if you do not talk about the cause of the problem.
There is not point thinking about adoption problem or even collecting money for adoption if you do not address the cause of the problem.
To solve any problem, you need to know the cause of the problem.
About 3000 years, I do not understand why that long history of Ethiopia is a bone in your throat if you are Ethiopian? I doublt your Ethiopianness? You do not even seem to recognize yourself as an Ethiopian? then there is no point talking to you?
One way or the other, people like you must be educated nicely so that they can get enlightened from backwardness and you must be willing to change and develop than to stay stuck in your majority ruse?
Ethiopia will rule, this difficult situation or tribulations will only make Ethiopia stronger. Those who think against it, will pay a price for it. Sometimes misfortune can happen for a reason by God's Design for liberation from poverty, spiritual poverty, the worst type of poverty is spiritual poverty. Do not think Ethiopia is finished because you and others are selling Ethiopian children on markets like goats, sheeps, chickens, or like any other commodity to make money. In the biblical time, the Israelites did the same, they were selling their children, they were even eating their children because of starvation, but that did not end Israelite, the wicked generation paid the price at that time, but Israelite did not vanish forever.
Efrem you must understand, one day you will pay a price for the busiess you are doing now by selling Ethiopian children. There will be a price to pay, unfortunately, it will not be you and those who are doing the business who will pay the price, all Ethiopians will pay the price because of the few wicked? but one day there will be redemption so.
We prey God liberate Ethiopia from the wicked Ethiopians who are involved in selling Ethiopian children like cash crop, like coffee, sesame,....
09/18/09 @ 12:51
Comment from: Lemlem [Visitor]
Shega, haha
I am not in that topic. Trust me, you have to find someone on the web who will converse with you. Good luck with your Meles. I am not in your line of philosophy of hatred or ethnic. I am out of it. Thanks to God. I do not even leave or have friends who think like you.
Good luck with your plan, if it will work for you. But it did not work for anyone in the history of humanity. People like you have caused suffering, misery, agony, ... in every society. People like you are loaded with hatred and vengeance, live alone to benefit a group of people, they cannot even benefit themselves. They just perish. If I think like you I will end up like you.
God save me not to think like you.
09/18/09 @ 17:06
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Mamo klio
I know you are very smart.That is why you wrote the very complex article about CEOs with high level corruption with their Vlolvo, Living in Manhatan ete etc. Yes, it was really hard for me to understand due the high level of intellegence in your comment. Next time please try to simplfy it so that i can understand it.
I feel sorry for you Mamo..what is the big deal about driving a Volvo or liviing in Manhathon....please grow up and be Mamo biltu.
I know you are very smart.That is why you wrote the very complex article about CEOs with high level corruption with their Vlolvo, Living in Manhatan ete etc. Yes, it was really hard for me to understand due the high level of intellegence in your comment. Next time please try to simplfy it so that i can understand it.
I feel sorry for you Mamo..what is the big deal about driving a Volvo or liviing in Manhathon....please grow up and be Mamo biltu.
09/18/09 @ 17:10
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Lemlem
I hope you will come to your senses and will stop writing this manic ideas.
As I have told you before speak for yourself. "existing language" were other languages were created overnight? Are ou crazy Are you in sane?
"I am not talking about ethinicity" then what are you doing when you are saying Amharic should be the nationnal language...but the majority of people speak other languages.
Lemlem, I am really sorry for you, because you just ranning around the bush lkie schtziophrenic man being chased with voices.
Do you have any idea why the Soviet Union Collapsed or other nations...
You see, you can do everyhting you want by force..but time will come when you cannot do that any more....for the 40 million oromosand 20 million other who speak other languages, telling the you have to speak Amharic..common Lemlem..try?In which part of the planet are you living?
Time has changed..i am the backward one according to you..but you seem dragging behind me. Open your eyes.
This is for Hulu what ever your name is. Your comments are inappropriate. I do not belive in any ethnic shreding another. As a matter of fact we all have common ground. If one ethnic shreding the other..they ae not gonna be bettr than Lemlem. Man think positive..do no always think about killing and about one language etc.. do not be like Lemlem using God's name in sane. I do not belive in violence, sensless 3000 year history patriotism.It is 2009..we need new fresh minds and fresh thinking
God is just and fair.God gave every society a language to use, but people like Lemlem want to make all Ethiopians to speak Amharic..Why should they?
Lemle, please your anger and hate are well and truly epressed in your comments. Sit back and relax..read your comments. I am sorry if you lost your benefits because of this goverment, but you are not the only one. But it is time for the others to rule. But i belive time will come for all Ethiopians regardless of their ethinicity, language or race...there will be a mutual respect and understanding towards a common goal. I will pray for this, not for lemlems Amharic.
I hope you will come to your senses and will stop writing this manic ideas.
As I have told you before speak for yourself. "existing language" were other languages were created overnight? Are ou crazy Are you in sane?
"I am not talking about ethinicity" then what are you doing when you are saying Amharic should be the nationnal language...but the majority of people speak other languages.
Lemlem, I am really sorry for you, because you just ranning around the bush lkie schtziophrenic man being chased with voices.
Do you have any idea why the Soviet Union Collapsed or other nations...
You see, you can do everyhting you want by force..but time will come when you cannot do that any more....for the 40 million oromosand 20 million other who speak other languages, telling the you have to speak Amharic..common Lemlem..try?In which part of the planet are you living?
Time has changed..i am the backward one according to you..but you seem dragging behind me. Open your eyes.
This is for Hulu what ever your name is. Your comments are inappropriate. I do not belive in any ethnic shreding another. As a matter of fact we all have common ground. If one ethnic shreding the other..they ae not gonna be bettr than Lemlem. Man think positive..do no always think about killing and about one language etc.. do not be like Lemlem using God's name in sane. I do not belive in violence, sensless 3000 year history patriotism.It is 2009..we need new fresh minds and fresh thinking
God is just and fair.God gave every society a language to use, but people like Lemlem want to make all Ethiopians to speak Amharic..Why should they?
Lemle, please your anger and hate are well and truly epressed in your comments. Sit back and relax..read your comments. I am sorry if you lost your benefits because of this goverment, but you are not the only one. But it is time for the others to rule. But i belive time will come for all Ethiopians regardless of their ethinicity, language or race...there will be a mutual respect and understanding towards a common goal. I will pray for this, not for lemlems Amharic.
09/18/09 @ 18:00
Comment from: 2 z red herring [Visitor]
Lemlem posted the following...:
"Ethnic is for you, not for me. you are talking about oromo? I did not talk about ethnic. I have no interest about it. I do not care damn whether you are oromo or amhara, or Gurage. Please do not talk to me about these thing. You are telling me stories I never talked about."
Here, at one of the best cafes in our neighbourhood we discussed about this part of her post and other posts of her. Most of the participants concluded that Lemlem is the other side of the melesas. She's here to promote ethnic politics from other angle_to incite the other ethnics against the Amharas...
But I don't like to reach to such conclutions based on meager "fact".
Lemlem! I know you're not discussing the issue you raised.
Check the following whether I'm right or not:
At the begining you wrote the following: "...Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people."
At another post you said the following: "... the problem of Ethiopian children trafficking has a cause? the cause is poverty due to political , economic, social, institutional problems in Ethiopia."
You have no stand on issues you raised.
Ethiopian politics is (now a days)entwined with ethnicity_whether you like it or not.
If you realy love your counrty you need to cool down and help your country by resolving this entanglement...
You cannot deny that,In ETHIOPIA, there are several languages.
As I think you're changed from those who love bloodshed to a bliever in humanity.
So I pray to THE ALMIGHTY to bless you and the like of you with HIS WISDOM and save that HISTORICAL COUNTRY.
"Ethnic is for you, not for me. you are talking about oromo? I did not talk about ethnic. I have no interest about it. I do not care damn whether you are oromo or amhara, or Gurage. Please do not talk to me about these thing. You are telling me stories I never talked about."
Here, at one of the best cafes in our neighbourhood we discussed about this part of her post and other posts of her. Most of the participants concluded that Lemlem is the other side of the melesas. She's here to promote ethnic politics from other angle_to incite the other ethnics against the Amharas...
But I don't like to reach to such conclutions based on meager "fact".
Lemlem! I know you're not discussing the issue you raised.
Check the following whether I'm right or not:
At the begining you wrote the following: "...Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people."
At another post you said the following: "... the problem of Ethiopian children trafficking has a cause? the cause is poverty due to political , economic, social, institutional problems in Ethiopia."
You have no stand on issues you raised.
Ethiopian politics is (now a days)entwined with ethnicity_whether you like it or not.
If you realy love your counrty you need to cool down and help your country by resolving this entanglement...
You cannot deny that,In ETHIOPIA, there are several languages.
As I think you're changed from those who love bloodshed to a bliever in humanity.
So I pray to THE ALMIGHTY to bless you and the like of you with HIS WISDOM and save that HISTORICAL COUNTRY.
09/18/09 @ 23:47
Comment from: Melekottesema [Visitor]
Efrem,
This is what you wrote: in response to Lemlem
"You are talking about 80 million people and more than half of that are Oromo speaking."
I am so amazed by people like you who just pull numbers out of their back pocket and slap em on the table like there is no tomorrow.
The fact that you do not live it Ethiopia speaks volumes. I do not think you have travel around Ethiopia and witnessed what language is widely spoken.
The fact that you do not speak Afan oromo says something against the basic point you are argue against.
The Majority of Orom population speaks Amharic, not to include the other ethnic groups in Ethiopia.
Do you know how much money and resources it will take to educate people like you Afan oromo?
Since i am talking about cost here I’d like to mention something. Do you know that paper and ink it takes to print a volume of book in afan ormo (latin alphabet) is twice as much than if you were to print the same volume in Amharic? You can print almost two volume of the same book in Amharic with the same price.
Let's just assume something here. Let’s just say Now we decided to change the National language to afan oromo. And a few year from now, If the population of Amhara speaking people goes up in 50 or 60 years from now and then what? I suppose they will be talking about changing it back to Amharic?
Do you know how ridiculous your point sounds right about now? Do not hate, language is nothing but a way of communication. All ethnic groups in Ethiopia speak and communicate in Amharic. I do not think someone who lives in Tigray, Gurage region and welayta etc, will be interested in learn a new language. Therefore, when you put all those together the population of oromo is no longer a majority. But i know you have your own statistics in your back pocket.
Since you do not live in Ethiopia and have no plans to do so, why don't you leave it to those who do to decide?
You just enjoy that democracy you are so proud of on someone else’s land, others worked hard for?
This is what you wrote: in response to Lemlem
"You are talking about 80 million people and more than half of that are Oromo speaking."
I am so amazed by people like you who just pull numbers out of their back pocket and slap em on the table like there is no tomorrow.
The fact that you do not live it Ethiopia speaks volumes. I do not think you have travel around Ethiopia and witnessed what language is widely spoken.
The fact that you do not speak Afan oromo says something against the basic point you are argue against.
The Majority of Orom population speaks Amharic, not to include the other ethnic groups in Ethiopia.
Do you know how much money and resources it will take to educate people like you Afan oromo?
Since i am talking about cost here I’d like to mention something. Do you know that paper and ink it takes to print a volume of book in afan ormo (latin alphabet) is twice as much than if you were to print the same volume in Amharic? You can print almost two volume of the same book in Amharic with the same price.
Let's just assume something here. Let’s just say Now we decided to change the National language to afan oromo. And a few year from now, If the population of Amhara speaking people goes up in 50 or 60 years from now and then what? I suppose they will be talking about changing it back to Amharic?
Do you know how ridiculous your point sounds right about now? Do not hate, language is nothing but a way of communication. All ethnic groups in Ethiopia speak and communicate in Amharic. I do not think someone who lives in Tigray, Gurage region and welayta etc, will be interested in learn a new language. Therefore, when you put all those together the population of oromo is no longer a majority. But i know you have your own statistics in your back pocket.
Since you do not live in Ethiopia and have no plans to do so, why don't you leave it to those who do to decide?
You just enjoy that democracy you are so proud of on someone else’s land, others worked hard for?
09/19/09 @ 07:06
Comment from: efrem [Visitor]
Why must Ethiopians in the first place do have to speak English? why must our people be measured their ability by english?
Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english. Why do we need english outside international affaires? English is the culprit of our backwardness. We wasting our lives study someone's language vocabulary.
We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture. Noone can civilize by destroying oneself. Not using ones langauge is like destroying onself.
Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language. Now Meles is introducing Arabic. He hate anything Ethiopian. He loves anything foreign starting from money to anything he can find.
We have no now a national language because he hates Ethiopian langauge. This is a part and a parcel of the problem.
Efrem, I did not blame the west; that is your own conjecture. The west has been feeding your for half a century now. Every church in the west collects money every year to feed Ethiopians. The west are not enemies to Ethiopia. The wests must be given thanks than blame. I do not blamee anyone. I blame brainwashed people like you Efrem? The fact that you think you know better than others is your problem Efrem. You must give your opinion. What I have written is your opinion. However, I have to blame people like you who are behind time and who are dragging Ethiopia backward in time and space.
Why must Ethiopians in the first place do have to speak English? why must our people be measured their ability by english?
Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english. Why do we need english outside international affaires? English is the culprit of our backwardness. We wasting our lives study someone's language vocabulary.
We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture. Noone can civilize by destroying oneself. Not using ones langauge is like destroying onself.
Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language. Now Meles is introducing Arabic. He hate anything Ethiopian. He loves anything foreign starting from money to anything he can find.
We have no now a national language because he hates Ethiopian langauge. This is a part and a parcel of the
Lemlemee..who wrote the above...I copied and pasted it for you missy
Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english. Why do we need english outside international affaires? English is the culprit of our backwardness. We wasting our lives study someone's language vocabulary.
We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture. Noone can civilize by destroying oneself. Not using ones langauge is like destroying onself.
Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language. Now Meles is introducing Arabic. He hate anything Ethiopian. He loves anything foreign starting from money to anything he can find.
We have no now a national language because he hates Ethiopian langauge. This is a part and a parcel of the problem.
Efrem, I did not blame the west; that is your own conjecture. The west has been feeding your for half a century now. Every church in the west collects money every year to feed Ethiopians. The west are not enemies to Ethiopia. The wests must be given thanks than blame. I do not blamee anyone. I blame brainwashed people like you Efrem? The fact that you think you know better than others is your problem Efrem. You must give your opinion. What I have written is your opinion. However, I have to blame people like you who are behind time and who are dragging Ethiopia backward in time and space.
Why must Ethiopians in the first place do have to speak English? why must our people be measured their ability by english?
Actually the english language is the main enemy of my people. our people are blacked out from technology because they are forced to know and to learn english. Why do we need english outside international affaires? English is the culprit of our backwardness. We wasting our lives study someone's language vocabulary.
We have been destroying ourselves by destorying our langauge and our culture. Noone can civilize by destroying oneself. Not using ones langauge is like destroying onself.
Meles Zenawi introduced Latin instead of promoting indigeneous language. Now Meles is introducing Arabic. He hate anything Ethiopian. He loves anything foreign starting from money to anything he can find.
We have no now a national language because he hates Ethiopian langauge. This is a part and a parcel of the
Lemlemee..who wrote the above...I copied and pasted it for you missy
09/19/09 @ 10:31
Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
Seleme [Visitor]
I am standing up for u...against ur abusive dad...Shabiya. kikikiki
Why do u get so emotional dude???
I am standing up for u...against ur abusive dad...Shabiya. kikikiki
Why do u get so emotional dude???
09/19/09 @ 14:24
Comment from: mbina [Visitor]
I'm just amazed by the very thought that, what would have been the discussion on this blog had the name of adoption agency had some kind of Muslim name instead of Christian World Adoption. and its beyond imagination if the adopting families were arabs
09/19/09 @ 19:03
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