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"Delegates are accusing Ethiopian Prime minister Meles Zenawi of doing an underhand deal with developed countries to short change Africa..."

Whoever stated this just SOLD AFRICA!

Why could not the Africans talked about the issue among themselves and came here with one strong and solid demand?? This is typical African problem reflected here, We Can never stand as one no matter what we do. what's this crap/

I agree with Melekot @23:13

The African delegates should not have let Meles to go on his own and to make a deal on his own.

Why complain now when you have no consultation among you leaders and a common stand on the issue.

Anyway, what does one expect from despots whether Meles or the president of Senegal. They are all the same.
You guys have nothing to do with the interest of the people you misrule.

Finaly African realize woyanne shiftas hiden agenda . tribal junta .money , power Greedy see ya in the Hague A

Obviously A Sellout! That is what his gene is made for. Just, go over his track record and you will find nothing but treachery, treason, betrayal and so on. We have been saying since day one that Meles, who has been busy selling the Ethiopian interest since day one of his political career, is definitely the wrong person to represent Africa. Hopefully, they will deject him out from the delegation before he ruins everything. The last time we let him do whatever he want, Ethiopia ended up with a billion dollar bill a year.

you know what makes him smart diplomat he is pragmatist assesed the situation asks what he can gets if they ask what they cant the meeting fall apart the kiyoto agreements will die and africa get screwed

Hi All,
Only idiots are not flexible.Those who are now criticizing Africa`s King Zenawi are dumbs who have no clue about politics.They should know that the developed countries have the right to refuse or they don`t have obligation to give money at all.At this moment where there is global economic problem,to get this amount of money is really cool.You have to know that there is a high probability that Libya` s Gaddafi can be behind these groups who are now opposing King Zenawi.As you all know the current AU chairman is Gaddafi and under normal circumstance Gaddafi was supposed to represent Africa at this climate meeting,but he was denied that opportunity to represent Africa and he is angry and mad at king Zenawi.Do you guys remember when Gadaffi was trying to relocate AU head office from Addis to Tripoli? Senegal was the first country to support him.So,don`t be surprised if countries like Senegal or some corrupt Africans cry foul play.

Meles aka the bi##chhhh of rich nations will try everything to recruit others to join him and serve rich nations. Being American bit$$ is not enough for the dictator I guess..

This tyrant is deceiving his blood sucker associates (African dictators)with an under the table deal. He does anything for money. First of all, they made a big mistake to choose him to represent them at this conference. He is using this opportunity to cover up his bad deeds back in Ethiopia.

African deligates, now you started felling who is he ? 
We knew him for a long time what makes him to change his mind since he was there to represent Africa. He get bribes from western & change the action of directing something at an objectof his mission.  What a  mercenary Meles  !!!
Why you're there at the first place you are a person hired to fight for another country than your own continent.  payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment.
To begin with such a shamful person shoudnt represent Africa, he is a criminal  & the most WANTED.  We always remember what happned on Dec 13, 2003. A genocide in Gambela Ethiopians a systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.

What a mercenary !!! World is better off with out  Meles & his Group of Gangs. That include HODAM Amara 

Huda 

wake up dictators Meles is the worst kind that you will see. God knows what is going to be trasnferd to his EFFORT account in return. He had sold your for 30 billion till 2020 in exchange for dictaorship, genocide, and monopoly of economy assisted by the west.

First of all why Africans send melese to Europe?? He’s a high school dropout rebel!! he doesn’t have any knowledge about anything. he is an insult for African. Africa has many intelligent , educated citizens why not send those to Copenhagen than this illiterate pm. anyway this what i expected, am not surprised because it is easy to guess what stupid can do!

ommmhhhhh! Where are those illitrate federal police menn. Put these arrogants anti meless africans in kaliti. here meles cut a good deal for himself (for Azeb, he doesnt take money) and some for tigray killil and these anti africa people want to spoil it. Put them in kalliti together with Birtukan. We know this is the work of Birtukan. I told you no visit to that unity lover. What the hell she gets if Ethiopia unites, go to asmara and pea on shabians abondend city or aoviding the co-existense in Somalia. Send them to kaliti or Guantamo, these terrorists. Wha i, mleses, only see the light for Ethiopia, africa and the world.

if you are agitated by this news then go to the ethiopian state owned media then you will be in a state of tranqutility. You fly in the air with soothing comfort how we african with the great 'intelgent president,oops pm meless' we cut the best clima deal for africa, mostly for Ethiopia (hussh it is for Tigray, not all some for Azeb, hi, hi).

Isayas should have represent Africa instead of Meles since he has a strong hate toward west. With all hate he have towards America and west, he would have been a best Bargainer for Africa. European union and Americans are aware of that and they put him in the corner so that he wont have voice,,,,,

Africa should stand united and clap together to make a larger voice. Instead of discussing the issue long prior to the meeting, to come up with one voice and deliver it with single voice. They argue the whole issue just before the meeting and come up with divided conclusion.

Shame on African leaders !!!

We have seen meles' talent for the last two decades. Have you ever seen anything good coming out of all his schemes?
All his bravado melted away into thin air.
We told you meles. You started to hear us. But it's too late.

Aye yedeha neger, yenie bitte deha, I bet he thought $10 bil is all his

$10 billion for 100 poor nations, imagine that!? It is less than the transportation cost to copenhagen

Ayee, it was better to stay home than to fly and pollute the atmosphere

I thought he was economist, min nekachew zendro??

Sir, some of these Africans think they can get away with challenging you like this, so unusual and aweful!!! niqet new!!

We kill them when they come to Addis!!!

All we can say is thank you KING MELES ! Forget the Senegals & that little spoiled boy name called gadaffi !

I agree with Meles Zenawi.That is the only African achievement will secured once and for all.

hulu: you seem one of the parking lot thief diaspora who doesn't know anything but only counting stolen money.Remember,Meles is not like your uncle Mengistu 6th grader.Remember that.

Yeha

Bribe:
Shut ur stinky mouth and stick with the topic. You were talking about Meles’s killing in Gambella, which is caused as a result of ethnic ruling and u turned around calling “That include HODAM Amara”.

Think before you write/compose and read your own comment before u post it.
Doma ras hula

In the meantime, Millions at risk as East Africa’s rain failed again according to Oxfam report today; while we argue to death about Meles's daily meetings and flight itineraries.

Idiot Afria leaders didn't know that Meles has no country he represent. He only represent his own servival. If it helps him to stay another day in power, he would do anything. How come the Africa leaders don't know this fact yet? They let evil laba to lead them. Now, look what is happining. I just hope they will learn no to trust Meles anymore for anything.

Why did African leaders chose him to be their spokes person? Ato Meles is walking and priding on the carpet of AU just because AU is in Addis he deserves the leadership when in fact it is the blood of Africans and strong leadership of Nkrummath, Selassie, etc and now he is disrespecting that. The danger is that Africans could vote so that AU can be moved away from Ethiopia. Traitor Meles. apparently the despot who talked with him are interested only in the money so really they don't care about their people. The West as usual has contempt for Africa and is not important except its resources. In fact the climate change will reduce population in Africa for the West so less resistance to get their hands on resources that is the goal

The rightfull and sensible prinsible of action has been lost when Africa nominated Melese Zemawi.
Now Africa has been changed as a begger then
a victime and be contend with what is being
offerd and fell greatful.
Such a turnaround on the level of finance being asked for by Africa point to the influnce of big powers behind the seen.
Any big power country can easly blackmail
Zenawi.

DON’T BE SURPRISED BY PEOPLE’S VIEW ON THE PRIME MINISTER.

GENIUS KNOWS GENIUS.

Here we go !!!!!

Who you are Ethiopian or foreigners
even when the glory is for Ethiopia.
you reject because Males is involved !!

My fear is if Males found a paradise
for all Ethiopians. Those who have
illiness called Males Males Males.
we will not eccept to go to heaven
because it is brought by Males.
We need Ethiopian Doctors and the
Hospitals those of us who are effected
by only hate they have for Males.
Let me, offer those brother who are ill
my psychological consultation to give
them a mental health help,
Males already is more than leader for
Horn of Africa but he also became a
leader for Africa. He is playing games
to super powers today. While you are
engaged and wasted your time jealousy
and envies of Domestic conflict and
enemity.
Forget small close domestic jealousy
Males brought victory and good name to
you all Ethiopians not for only for
himself.
You can't hide a rising sun with your
hands.

Emotions are unavoidable cetral part of negotiation, fear of lossing and anger are the main type of emotions and that is what the African group reflected by the walkout. While it is good to be emotional it should not go to the level of damaging and lead to the brakedown of negotiation. There are reports indicating vital negotiating time was lost after African delegates walked out of the conference. Meles is a realist and most informed on what the rich nations have on the table than his African group. The purpose of negotiation is to resolve situations to reach a win-win resolution but not to fight your corner aggressively to the end. Negotition have limited time and it is up to the parties to get the best they can.

MELES IS A GOOD MAN AND A GREAT MAN.

. . .as I`ve told you before, his fake agenda to represent whole Africa cant hide anymore. . .

. . .to LOOT our country is not enough for him and his cronies!. . .

DOWN WITH THE LOOTERS!!!!

I have a funny feeling that Melles is being punked by Obama and Sarkozy
Deliberately to discredit him as leader. Go out and say "I need only $10 billion for now" and call behind him their dogs to shout at him
He should have gone to Gordon Brown first
Seriously though....
What I didn't like most is our leader talking about dollar figures rather than showing some semblance of concern(fake or real) about enviromental impact in African lives
He was talking about "real money" since the start of this fiasco, erre benatot ayasfogrun!!!

too many angry eritreans on this forum. who knows it could be Elias kifle under different names. nazret, what can u tell us from the IP addresses

Altegib-by sitefa yadral.

Meles just said, give us the $10Billion now and we will still demand $100Billion in 2010.
A bird in hard is better than two in the forest.

Meles's logic makes more sense to me than those greedy african leaders. after all non of the Nigers can force the western world to pay what they are not willing to pay. in this case , the choice are two. fight with some thing in your hand or fight with nothing on your hand. and the man in charge chose the later.take it or leave it

My compatriots,
Mr Meles Zenawi is absolutely right. As the climate change didnt happen overnight, it will not be solved overnight. They shouldnot sing the all - or - nothing lyrics. Well, we all know that African dictators cannot submit their egos to the betterment of a nation or a continent. Some of them may think that they can rule until 2020 or for that matter beyond that. In life, Nothing enjoys eternity. The sooner we think for the posterity, the better our future will be. Good luck anyways.

We are behind you Mr. Prime Minister. No one knows what the reality looks like in the world political arena better than YOU.

Let some chimps uproar for nothing but you are man of reality and pragmatism.

Forza Meles, wedi Africa.

This is not good for Africa. I also wonder why the leaders had a debate prior this conference and come out with a unified strong stand??? This is not good for Africa:-(

Nazretoch,

Sellout / sellin - who cares?
The point is that we, at last, have a prime minister who can be stood out from the crowed & be counted. That by itself is a satisfaction.

Thank you PM.

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P.S. I do not believe in Global warming! It is bloody freezing here.

Yeha

Who told u that Mengistu was a six grader
May be your ass hole Tigrees.Look when you were living in your cave before you started sedentary life in the Jungle of Dedebit,he was teaching the Americans,your current Godots

I cant believe Meles is negotiating for the rat in Ertireas Haileselassie palace. Meles, only genius understands your f***** genius mind. The ignorants wont follow you even if you lead them to heaven. Don't worry about the dead fish. Let it stink.

"like father like son", Meles Sinawi is sell out like king Silasie and looser like king Yohannes, Silasie used to preach racial equality around the world while slavery going on his own backyard. Habasha people are whiteman ass lickers! Meles has lost credibility to represent Africa in the future, slave son will remain slave!

The biggest hurdle in the negotiation between the Developed North and South was the source of funding. As President Sarkozi stated, Europe has, in principle, agreed to have a dedicated stream of funding which will be levies on shipping and airlines as well as financial transactions which is a breakthrough. Specially, the latter being very promising for billions of stocks exchange hands on a daily basis. The Premier has an input in these negotiations. The fact that the "Golden goose" is going to be tapped is a good start. However, i am disappointed with Prime Minister Zenawi's assessment as France being a friend of Africa. That must be annoying to a lot of Francophone countries who were and still are exploited by The Third Republic. To repeatedly state that Africa has friends be it at Elysee or Dawning street is fundamentally erroneous. Partners would have been a better choice of word. Mr Zenawi should have been more reserved in that aspect. However, one cannot discount the efforts of this person in streamlining Africa's position from the start of the Negotiations a year ago. He made sure that Africa will not be shoved and wont settle for anything less than a determined compensation to mitigate the effects of Global Warming or will walk out of the negotiation and it actually did a number of times. This unconventional approach, single handily, forced the North to come with funding of some sort to the negotiating table. Had it not been for Prime Minister's steadfast stand, we wouldn't be talking about $ 10 billion, $ 30 billion or any monies at all. So give the man a credit. At least, it is a good start

First something about 'performing a walkout if his demands aren't met' and now this, walkout my foot! He went there for one particular reason and that is fattening his foreign accounts, period!

"Meles Zenawi's logic seems..." no Ed it's not, meles's logic is an oxymoron of greatest magnitude, at least skipping the reason why he did it. While it actually appears to be reverse logic for us outsiders essentially, it is to do whatever it takes to get his hands on money though deals under the table, around the table, above the table or whatever and then justify his act of sudden 'madness' with excuses like, "reliable funding". Does he actually think all of us numbnuts like his dull supporters? And also the rest of the Africans are mad because he led them behind the light. It stings, doesn't it that he did to you what you've been doing to your own people, you worthless corrupted murderers?


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His obviously not dealing with Bereket Simon or Seyoum Mesfin, his with new ppl those elected by their countries man and well educated ones, our chimp wants to snatch the 10 Billion like a Monkey gets the chance to snatch a banana.

what they didn't know was the representative is a beggar in a suite.lol

The senegalise leader has been in broad daylight supprting the move of Gadafi to move the head of the AU from Addis Ababa to Tripoli. Meles hit him on his horns and is still feeling the pain. That is why this poor old senegalese is trying to spoil the plan of the capable Meles.
Bravo Meles, we appreciate your flexibility.

Africa has only one best leader PM meles zenawi and we africans are proude of meles at any cercumstance. meles was nominated for this issu as he is a talent in every aspects not only in poletics but also in science(environmental issues). you see to what extent he is conserned to Africa. i am quite sure that he will also nominated for the next nogetions conserning Human beings as a whole not Africas only.

"The tide which is sweeping Africa today cannot be stayed. No power on earth is great enough to halt or reverse the trend. Its march is as relentless and inexorable as the passage of time. The day is long overdue for a change of attitude on the part of those nations which have heretofore sought to hinder or impede this movement or which have been content in the past to remain passive in the face of the immpassioned cries for freedom, for justice, for the right to stand with their fellowmen as equals, which have gone up from this Continent. It is time for them to list their sympathetic efforts on behalf of the struggle of the African peoples to gain the place in the world which is their God-given birthright. Those who hail or refuse to do so, those who lack vision and foresight to realize that Africa is emerging into a new era, that Africans will no longer be denied the rights which are inalienably theirs, will not alter or reverse the course of history, but will only suffer the inevitable consequences of their refusal to accept reality." Negus Haile Selassie, Father of African Unity!, Founder and guide of the United Nations!, Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy!, Long Live the Kebra Negast!, Fire burn down the star of secession, Rise with the Lion of Judah!, Long Live Independent Ethiopia!

Afica will never unite! never , never !

Oh, well, the proposed money might not be enough for the crook monkeys who are bent to loot the whole continent. Poor souls! They expected trillions and Meles blew the trumphet for only 10 billions. He just hit the nail on the head. Just staggering.

A real deal is better than no deal.
It is all about the long future to save the world. By reaching a real tangible agreement. The floor negotiaters are just arguing for the sake of arguement with out checking the reality,with acceptable proposal.
Pm Meles is making a smart move trying to save THE KYOTO PROTOCOL and the green fund to protect the environment.

Fellow Africans.....welcome to the club!!!
We Ethiopians have been betrayed by Meles Zenawi everyday for the last 19 years.

here meles goes again


Meles did what he is good at sale the trust of his people to the highest bidder, grab the green buck and hit the road

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The reporter was saying the two year bargain has been compromised. It looks Africans have been bargaining independently to solve global warming issues. Otherwise, the deal Meles made should have been known before it was publicized. The problem is obvious. There was no consensus among African delegates before they came to the summit. If the 2 degree rise is unavoidable, then it has to happen any way before it starts subsiding because of new measures with the help of green technology being introduced. One also needs to take into account that things take time to reverse what has already happened to the atmosphere, so adaptation is necessary. I don't know how much of all these has been consulted scientifically.It looks like it is more of politics than looking for protracted solutions.

hulu [Visitor]

You wrote; - "...why Africans send melese to Europe?? He’s a high school dropout rebel!! he doesn’t have any knowledge about anything. he is an insult for African. Africa has many intelligent"

First of all, innumerable people of great mind never attended High School per se - they educated themselves by reading, analyzing and so on... to name you few of them Plato.. Aristotle... and those famous writers of enlightenment who brought to human consciousness the notion of "Civil Liberties" like Voltaire and so on - never went to high school. So by the same token - Meles became an erudite by being a voracious reader and with his well known acute mind for analyzing and assessing any challenge he is a top person to represent Africa at any meeting or convention. Needless to remind you that your Haile with no formal schooling has ruled Ethiopia with iron fist for almost half a century.
So if you have a problem with the ethnicity of Meles - there is nothing we can do for you... but you are not in a position to disparage the mind of Meles


Helen [Visitor]

Here is the stupidity you wrote:"Idiot Afria leaders didn't know that Meles has no country he represent"
Who is being a stupid no - you or the African leaders?- all fingers are pointing to your direction
All Ethiopians know that Meles is the Prime Minister of Ethiopia and the same with any other countries that are dealing with Ethiopia that he is the ruler of Ethiopia

Thank you Yeha. Hulu, however, you seem to be ignorant. How can an ignorant person like hulu evaluate Meles's educational status. We all know Meles has a Masters Degree in Business Adm. I believe Meles is the most intelligent person on earth even if you assume he does have any education at all.

In life you have to be realistic.
Who would give billions to Africa at ones on demand?
If we could get billions that easily shouldn’t we claiming to be paid for our ancestor’s salve labour that enriched the west and Europe?

I appreciate “Kink” Melese of Ethiopia for achieving what is practical for Africa. It is a good beginning and it is not the end of the climate deal. God Bless Meles and African delegate who manage to achieved practical gain in this deal.

Viva Africa. With great leaders of our time world is giving you attention.

All Africans should be proud of this achievement as it is happening in our time. Please don’t for get our past

Dan From Canada

This short bold guy knows what he is doing. He knows how to play the game. He doesn't really care about the environment, the finance Africa gets, he is after his ego to manipulate the game at international standard. He loves the attention and the stage. He is tired of Ethiopia and it is getting too small for his ambition. He is loyal to the west than to Africa. Soon he will run an international organization with blessing of the west. For now it is his moment let him enjoy it, and as an Ethiopian I don't mind one of ours play the play like this

I don’t believe the baboons who are accusing our PM know half of what he understands about global worming. These village idiots should have been left at home herding their cattle and let PM Meles represent Africa.

The leaders of African nations should have elected someone a respected leader instead of this man who has committed genocide in Ethioipia.He will sell his own mother for money.Shame on African Union.

First,this 'weyala' man had sold Ethiopian Sea ports (Eritrea). Now he has sold the interest of Africans. How much did he recieve for such betrial. Ethiopian or Eritrean 'jew'!!!!!

Nazreat editor wrote,

“Meles Zenawi's logic seems to be take what you can and run all the way to the bank. What do you think?”

I agree with the editor’s comment. Meles is “le petit a*gamedo”. Don’t forget Meles used to be a worobela and at present TPLF mafia leader. So, for 10 Billion he sold out Africa and her dignity.

The Tyrant Zenawi is just playing his own game to save his dying regime.So why he is at Copenhagen not to defend the interest of african Peoples .

Hi dear Ethiopians, What about if he disagreed and just walked out from the negotiation?What would Africa benefit? The Rich countries do not have any obligation, So we must ask and examine what a distance we can go. Now Gadaffi of Libya gets opportunity to accuse and blame Meles and Ethiopia . He has hidden agenda, and that is to move AU head quarter to Tripoli ,Libya.\As an Ethiopian I do not like the politics of Meles and his tplf /Epdrf group. But on certain issues he is wise. As we Ethiopians say "belt lejg eyebela yalksal"other wise if he just complains without eating what is at hand even there is possibility to lose what he has at hand . So please let us not curse Meles for what he has done, representing Africa on the Climate issue.
We can accuse him on Ethiopias issues.TaGe

Ethiopian Joda

Our tchingaf thinks, that all those Africans are just like that HODDAM Shawel easily to be manipulated or simply BEGODIF GUBBO YEMISHENEFU !!

Miscalculated !

A $10bil,really a ten billion dollars!for the whole Africa continent! Is that Melse think the Africa continent is too small like small as Tigray province? or that he think other African are too cheap like us and that adopted living on donations? Mr PM your scale measurements is the TPLF one which very cheap and insults to other proud African nations.It was good idea to consult with Africans before you acted alone and decided like they are Ethiopian citizens!
eha you for get that one Mr PM?
Today,you are proved that,how poorly you decided for Ethiopians in terms of both locally and international foreign affairs.

Also you only showed by yourselves to other African and to the rest of the world so that you trapped by yourself,what we can do for u Mr PM?

Nevertheless, as math $10 Bil divided by 52 African countries is less than 2 million for each country and its nothing Mr PM!
So are you up to that level cheap or a desperate for few dollars? or You confused with math and not that good in math?

Well Mr PM,the amount offered and you accepted as as compensation for the whole continent is nothing.Fore example,If the amount divided for 52 countries,its less than a two million for each country.This is really nothing and if that compared to the amount of $$ that ONLF received from Asmara as monthly/budget is doubling the amount you accepted for whole Africa?

What shame and cheap.I advice you MP go back and ask more,Tel them that you thought Africa the province of Tigray and its an honest mistakes.

I knew that you could Mr Prime minister,go back and work hard for Africa.

I am Impressd,
No one insulted Tigray people this time.
Perhaps you are you are becoming wise men and women.

OR
Is it rainning.
Whatever it is, well done

FREE-Hiwot[visitor],

I believe that you previousely stated Meles was the "begger in chief" of Africa when he was demanding a huge amount of money. Now that he has reduced his demand, he is a "sell-out". In other words, if Meles says the sky is blue, you would probably insist that it is red. Hmmm,...interesting.

http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/nota.asp?idnews=49727

CLIMATE CHANGE:
Zenawi Stands Alone In Copenhagen
Mantoe Phakathi

Credit: Servaas van den Bosch/IPS

Zenawi: 'Because we have more to lose, we should compromise and be flexible with other countries.'

COPENHAGEN, Dec 17 (IPS) - Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi says Africa must compromise and be flexible towards other countries, if the U.N. Climate Conference ending on Dec. 18, is to reach an agreement.

Speaking to the press in the Danish capital, Zenawi - ostensibly leading the African front on climate change - said the continent would suffer the most should the world fail to seal a deal.

"Because we have more to lose, we should compromise and be flexible with (other countries)," said Zenawi, after admitting that his proposals at the U.N. summit fall short of African expectations.

But he was quick to point out that Africa’s bending did not mean desperation: "We will not accept any empty words".

Millions of Africans are banking their hopes on the Ethiopian Prime Minister, who was chosen to lead the African delegation during the High Level Meeting of heads of state that concludes the U.N. Climate Conference.

The prize is to bring home a sound deal that will act to slow the rising average temperatures that have caused catastrophic droughts and severe rains in recent years, and to secure funding from the historically-polluting countries to cope with changes that are already unvaoidable.


While maintaining that Africa had virtually no responsibility for the greenhouse gas emissions causing climate change, Zenawi slashed the 67 billion dollars a year that African leaders agreed to demand from the industrialised nations who are responsible.

Instead his proposal accepts the developed world's offer of a start-up fund of $10 billion a year for Africa over the next three years, with the future to be decided on later. This fund will be dedicated to adaptation and mitigation actions, including the fight against deforestation, in poor countries.

"I support that the fund be established through the creation of a tax on international financial transactions, and that other sources be considered, such as taxes on sea freight or air transport," he said. "I also support that it should be administered through the African Development Bank."

In the long term, Zenawi proposed that funding rise to $50 billion a year in 2013, and reach $100 billion by 2020 - a proposal perfectly in line with what U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton outlined in a press conference on Dec. 17.

His proposal touched a raw nerve among African civil society organisations, who have demanded that he resign as coordinator of African Heads of State and Government on Climate Change.

The proposal has caused outrage in Africa, according to Pan-African Climate Justice spokesperson Mithika Mwenda. He accuses Zenawi of caving in to the dictates of industrialised nations, leaving Africans to fend for themselves as best they can

"His statement is undermining the bold positions of African negotiators and ministers represented in Copenhagen, and threatens the very future of Africa," said an angry Mwenda.

The proposed $10 billion a year for Africa is an insult, said Mwenda, who did a quick calculation and came up with $4 a year for each African. In his view, it should be the size of the pocket, that determines the expected contribution from industrialised countries. They are, he said "paying their debt for polluting the earth".

A difficult start for Africa in the final phase of negotiations. The collective front put up by Africa Group negotiators as part of the Group of 77 and China block had failed to convince the Rich World to either commit to substantial greenhouse gas emissions or the $200 billion a year the developed world will need to cope with floods, droughts, rising sea levels and the spread of diseases due to climate change.

But the bloc had at least made it clear that the developing world would not stand peacefully by any abandoning of Kyoto Protocol commitments to reduce emissions, or easily settle for a modest though immediate sum.

Zenawi's break with this position to endorse a Western position is a worrying sign that this solidarity amongst the countries whose people will bear the full weight of climatic changes may not hold firm.

Yeha,

great point! cause 30 billion is better than 0 billion. But it is just amazing how these parkin-lots were saying that Meles was a 'Lemagn' last week and now he is NOT "Lemagn" enough for them.

This remineds me of something. I once took my Neftegna girlfriend on a date to an Ethiopian restaurant and I bought her some Kurt. I thought she would be so flattered that I would get lucky that night. But instead, she complained that the Kurt is NOT raw enought for her and started crying.

It took me another couple of month to get lucky with her after that. THat was only because she got fired from her parking-lot job thus she had nowhere to go---

this is the principle of meles he went to behind door and tried to presented developed nations agenda and conclusion as africans,what a shame .he went copenhagen to represent africa,however the european and americans gave him thier on conclusion as africans .they played with as.some people who are always think meles is clever,they dance and sing together,however,we ethiopians ashmed because of meles private(developed nations) deciscion.

The fact of the matter is that Meles is the head of the African delegation. He is representing Africa as he got the mandate from African leaders. As he has that mandate, he has to deal with the west, compromise with them and make the best deal he could. We like it or not he is a smart guy, he can fool the whole Africa continent. Well he has been fooling the western world for a long time.

It was just yesterday our traitor diaspora was balming the PM for asking too much from the international community and it was labeled as too much begging and now he is accused of for not begging too much, which one is your position you retarded diasporas???

Our ancestors say "Letekemach semai kirbu new", meaning "for someone sitting even the sky is close".

We are only crying from a distance, with out even having the necessary data on what each of the movers (US, EU, China, India etc.) have put on their tables.

Meles is representing Africa. Does Africa have any real leverage to force a deal? Yes, that is to boycott. But boycott would only amount to yielding to the status co. Who would benefit from the status co? No one. Who would be hurt by the Status co most? Africa. We African should know we have a weaker position in these negotiations.

Moreover, we have seen many pledges by the West to help Africa fight poverty etc., that have been torn apart every time other global priorities emerge. Therefore, I agree with Meles that it is better to have a realistic deal with an authority to control its implementation, than an ambitious plan that is difficult to agree up on, or that is too good to be implemented even with agreement from the movers as has been the case in the past.

As to the rumble by some delegates and leaders, I think this is a plain emotion and should not be taken seriously. One advice for them, think of what you would have proposed if you were on his shoes? Show solidarity rather than animosity at a global stage would make you respectable.

No question. he betrayed Africa as he did Ethiopia 18 years ago. What a crazy creature. Down with MELES

African deligates, now you started felling who is he ? 
We knew him for a long time what makes him to change his mind since he was there to represent Africa. He get bribes from western & change the action of directing something at an objectof his mission.  What a  mercenary Meles  !!!
Why you're there at the first place you are a person hired to fight for another country than your own continent.  payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment.
To begin with such a shamful person shoudnt represent Africa, he is a criminal  & the most WANTED.  We always remember what happned on Dec 13, 2003. A genocide in Gambela Ethiopians a systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.

What a mercenary !!! World is better off with out  Meles & his Group of Gangs. That include HODAM Amara 

Huda 

First of all, I don't buy the idea of compensation. For what? For being lazy and unable to run machines of production for the last 2 hundred years? So I take the 'compensation' from the hard working developed nations as just a helping hand to a little brother from a big brother. They are being fair and generous to a sleeping world.

Having said that, the way prime minister Meles formulated the 'compensation' plan is very creative and realistic that Africans and others involved should have appreciated. Of course there may be disagreements but at the end of the day, specially Africa, should be proud of having someone who has such a coherent plan represent them in the world gathering.

Very good job Mr. prime minister!

Extraterrestrial [Visitor]

This has nothing to do with emotions. This is strategic negotiations which have the potential to change our continent forever. Do you really think that Meles made a good deal? $100billion dollars? That's a joke. We don't need chump change to fundamentally change Africa, we need sustainable technology based development.

How can the side he is negotiating against support his deal proposal more then the side he is supposed to represent? Do you think the western states are there to relinquish real control to Africa? They are all praising Meles because they got off cheap. The entire western economic and social system is set up on the premise that developing nations must be exploited for them to enjoy their higher standard of life. They have been robbing our resources for centuries and now your “great man” “King” has given them an open invitation to pollute our continent for the coming two decades for less then $400billion dollars. I know you defend this guy but you did say once that you were able to admit his mistakes (ie. Asab) so …..

Shegaw -yayaw hulu

First of all, innumerable people of great mind never attended High School per se - they educated themselves by reading, analyzing and so on... to name you few of them Plato.. Aristotle... and those famous writers of enlightenment who brought to human consciousness the notion of "Civil Liberties" like Voltaire and so on - never went to high school. So by the same token - Meles became an erudite by being a voracious reader and with his well known acute mind for analyzing and assessing any challenge he is a top person to represent Africa at any meeting or convention. Needless to remind you that your Haile with no formal schooling has ruled Ethiopia with iron fist for almost half a century.
So if you have a problem with the ethnicity of Meles - there is nothing we can do for you... but you are not in a position to disparage the mind of Meles
your garbage has make me really angry when was the last time you saw fraction of intelligence before you put him in line with the world big
names he might tell you what you wants to hear it has nothing to do with intelligence the right way to write this jungle criminal is street smart like many of his commrades and secondly he can not represent africa as he is not representative of Ethiopia except himself and your likes he is very highly rejected by Ethiopian peoples for that reason he can never never be an envoy

What do you expect from a dumb who masquerades as a smart man?

Look, Africans deserve what they sowed. Why did they put this mercenary as their rep in the first place?

They could easily have checked his track record of making Ethiopia land-locked even after he won a war with Eritrea, handing vigin lands to Sudan, selling Ethiopia's lands to the best bidder from the Middle East, etc.

Why didn't they check his record on democracy where he slaughtered hundereds of innocents and terrrorrized hunderds of thoursands of young people simply because they challenged him for stolen elections?

Why don't they see that Meles is disliked by the people of Ethiopia so much that he lost the election in 2005 and has imprisoned the person, Birtukan Mideksa, who would beat him in a flash in any fair election?

Why don't they realize that due to numerous internal opposition, Meles might sell out Africa for Europe and the US in order to ensure thier continued bankrolling his faltering tyranny?

Why don't the Africans realize that this double talker is not a trustworthy guy?

These foolish Africans didn't do their homework and selected a sellout and look what they get in return?

Africans deserve what they got. The truth about Meles was out in true daylight but they failed to see because they forgot to do their homework.

Meles Killed a lot of Ethiopians and selling lots of their land to foreigners. Now he is taking the first step to selling Africans. However, I am glad that he paid those bull and corrupt african leaders off their price for choosing him to represent Africa. He knows where he has to hide his ass to stay in power and if the westerns froun on him he would lay under China.

He is the angle of the devil.

I bet you he made side deals for his pockets. By the way other African leaders use their language when he address the audience but Meles uses English not Americ. He did the same thing in France even if the France leader uses french this guy prefered English. I guess he thought it makes him smarter to speack English. But he failed to notice that he represent Ethiopia not himself.

The politics of the childish diaspora has become laughable by the day:

Just because they hate the PM they want all African leaders to hate him too. But the reality is the opposite, they love him so much they asked to represent them several times in several world arenas. That is not an easy achievment.

Just because they hate the PM they want all of us to hate him too. They say that he, the PM is loved by only 4% of the population while they speak for the whole of Ethiopia or the 96%. They attack those of us who are not Tigreans and who loves the PM as Hodams while they seem to be fasting all their lives. The reality is the PM is loved by most of the population, even in the Amahra region more than the opposition parties. Well for the illiterate parking lot attendants all these millions are hodams except them.

Just because they hate the PM they expect the European and American leaders should hate him too. But the reality is that they love him as a wise African leader who has stood all kinds of hardship to bring Democracy to Ethiopia against all- ods. The anti democratic forces (The diasporas)who are mainly represented outside are doing their best to sabotage any kind of democratic process. They claim that only they are the vangaurd of democracy and those African, European and American leaders don't know anything. Thay must be very brave to state such high sounding slogans against all while they are doing all sorts of manual jobs. Could it be some kind of frustration about their miserable lives? I don't know. What I know is Awko jetegna sew bikesekisut aysemam.

As far as I know the only opposition parties are inside Ethiopia and the rest are crooks who lives in lies and deceptions.

For me the PM is a combination of Gandhi, Mandella and Napolion all in one. May god give you and your family a long life. You are the best thing that ever happened to Ethiopia for over hundred years.

Yeha my northern lion friend, this Southerner with his mates are always with your hard working peoples drive to civilize and democratise all of Ethiopia. Keep up the good work.

Not every one is equal in having commonsense, some are more equal than others. Follow the Leader not the tail. "Go Go Go MELES go baby go shine and be good. The Informer and the Prophet and the Later Day Of Saint of Africa.

Hey TPLF boys,cool down the PM is for all.We can critic and finger point his mistakes.Why are you always siding with Melse? If you think that Melse is for leader alone then take him and keep in your caves.Otherwise,shut f** and let man be neutral for all Ethiopian citizen.
He made the worst mistake that he ever did after the killings of the 290 protesting innocent university students and the invasions of Somalia that killed a thousands and thousands defenseless and poor women and children Somalis in Mogadishu.The world is still remembering the woyane militia's inhuman crimes committed,like those 20 civilians slaughtered in Mogadishu mosque.

This is third biggest his doing again trying to sale Africa under the EU tales for few dollars.This reduces guys supporting in all mistakes this man.You're becoming like the Ahamra that worshiping that salse for 41 years.They both Humans.Say when they're right they write and give the support they need it but we must say it wrong if they are wrong and stop.How that Ethiopia will develop,if 2,3 or 4 decades we warship for one man?

This guy Melse is not good any more he look tried like his successors in the past.He has to leave the post of PM office and get some rest for his life.Twenty years is enough for him so let them give chance other peoples whom are new,young and more energized than him.In deed this man is dead and we will suck down if we don't change him right now.

If you want him take him to Axum church and worship him there.For us he is enough,having said that isn't because of his ethnicity,if you guys want bring another woyane but honestly this guys is dead and really tired so remove the office and bring whoever else.

Terrorist Meles is desperately seeking the legitimacy he has never been able to find in Ethiopia from elsewhere by doing a job that other people never want to do, namely, begging. The whole purpose of Copenhegen for terrorist Meles is begging money from the rich nations in the name of being victims of the climate change. No sane and self-respecting African wants to go before the gruelling, excruciating deriding and disdianful face of the leaders of rich nations and beg for crumbs and alms except professioanal beggars and swindlers like terrorist Meles. Terrorist Meles might stay in power as long as he can cling to with the barrel of the gun but he will die never-elected by the Ethiopian people even for once. dere

Global Climate compensation is an African political agenda discovered by HE PM Meles Zenawi, that makes Europeans, US and other developed nations of the world pay Africa tens and hundreds of Billions of dollars a year. No one has the moral high ground to critcze the visionary, eloquent and impressive PM, as it is his idea at first to fight for the cause.

God Bless you PM Meles!
God bless Africa!!!

Woyane Morons, fist of all Meles doesn't know a shit about global warming. Listen to what one of the commentator said on the tv report posted here. Did you even listen what the reporter said? She said that he, as always he and only he, agreed with the Europeans to let the global temperature rise by 2 degree Celsius above the pre-industrial level and that is way more than what most of the countries' environment can handle. As one of the delegate rightfully pointed out, the main objective of the meeting is solving the root cause of the problem and any sensible human being can tell you that what meles is pushing to accomplish here is nothing more than a quick fix just like his domestic policy for the chronic food shortage the country has been facing for decades now. That generally tells us how shallow ato meles's understanding is on the subject of global warming or any other subject for that matter. In fact, ato meles is known amongst many circles as a street smart, a 'tiraz-neteq', and that is it. He, just like the rest of the woyane retards, does not understand the implication of letting a temperature rise by a full 2 degree, but those of us who are working on the micro and nano scale technologies in a daily basis know the significance of letting a temperature or current or pressure.... surge or drop by a fraction that may amount to some of you infinitesimal or zero. Of course, the bandit ato meles is not expected to know or understand every thing, but he acts like one which is the reason why he never even bothered to consult a scientist in the field before making a major decision that affects the future of not just Ethiopia but the entire planet. Had he had consulted one, i am pretty sure that he would never promoted the deal. As of the proposed money, you denkoro woyanes, it is not the same as the expired wheat you collect around globe through beggary. It is a compensation for the blunder the west has committed against the environment and its implication for the poor countries. But, i am not surprised by the confusion i see amongst the boneheaded woyanes. Now, what has meles accomplished so far? nothing and that wont change in the coming few days. According to different news sources such as nyt, the money amounts only to what the europeans have proposed as a minimum. In other word, he has achieved nothing, he did not win a thing for Africa. All what he does was becoming a messenger boy to deliver the Europeans' proposal to the table, and that is all about it. So, the least keeps growing...

Aseb
Badime
Humera, and now
Africa
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Terrorist Meles is only on the money. He has never been worried about the environment to begin with. He despearately sought and got the a negotiator position so that he can get money. For him it has never been about the raising global warming by 1 degree or 2 or 10. For him it was all about money from the rich nations and nothing more and nothing less. That is the main difference between terrorist Melese and the rest of the African delegation. All African dictators should regrete for allowing this terrorist speak in their name and sell out African interest. Hagere

African deligates, now you started felling who is he ? 
We knew him for a long time what makes him to change his mind since he was there to represent Africa. He get bribes from western & change the action of directing something at an objectof his mission.  What a  mercenary Meles  !!!
Why you're there at the first place you are a person hired to fight for another country than your own continent.  payment made to a person in a position of trust to corrupt his judgment.
To begin with such a shamful person shoudnt represent Africa, he is a criminal  & the most WANTED.  We always remember what happned on Dec 13, 2003. A genocide in Gambela Ethiopians a systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.

What a mercenary !!! World is better off with out  Meles & his Group of Gangs. That include HODAM Amara 

Huda 

Meles Got a Masters DEGREE?
I wonder from where, Did he study online while fighting as a gorilla?
Or you @game's are re-Writing History again.

there is a saying in Amharic.
Eyune, Eyune Yale , Debekune, Debekune Yelale. A

Those who hated meles are expected to disparage him on every issue as they are in war in his identity than his deeds. I think the issue of other African leaders not happy with his proposal is over blown. Sure some leaders feel left out and a bit jealous of our prime minister but that is expected. However if we analyze him on the merits, I think he is shown the world how an astute negotiator he is. He has been there and done that. Knows when the developed nations pledge a chunk of money and never materializes so I think he is strategically making sure that appropriate resource is flowing towards Africa. As the arada saying goes..... "Bilt lij yesetuten yezo yalksal" which means "a smart kids cries after he takes what he/she was given". So my friends, My hat's off for this dynamic leader.

Fitawurari! Couldn't understand your garbage. Learn to write precisely. Tebtaba!

As a native child of Tigray, where drought led thousends to migration and starvation, I thought Meles already knew what climate change could do.

Do we all understand the whole issue? what were the point of contention among negotiators? Was there a high possibility that Africa's chance of getting a compensation was near "zero" with out the quick intervention of Meles? was it possible to get the $400 Billion as suggested by the opportunist African carbon traders and speculators who are footing the bill of our African NGOs?
These all and may be some more things which we don't know has to be answerd before we pass our ignorant judgement.

I know Al mariam will say something about it. I can not wait until I read his comment. Gud eko new Gobez!

Now Africans also got Meles’s betrayal directly. Now the world knows what Ethiopians were saying all along.

Meles is not there to fight for Africans well being. He is not looking for long lasting solution. He wants MONEY NOW. He is there to get quick money and run with it.

His calculation is to get money quickly (he thinks he will be around for three years) and to say raise the global warming because the higher the global worming the more money he gets.

Meles’s approach is to start asking for high and to settle for what ever. He knows the end of his time is nearing.

Good for those African leaders who stood by Africa, for morality and dignity.

Zenda,..

Well said, "Pm MELES IS THE COMBNATION OF GANDHI,MANDELA,AND NAPPOLION"
The childish diaspora politicians can never make up their minds. Each day they demand some thing diffrent. There is nothing to satisfy them. The good thing is pm Meles is working hard, day & night for Ethiopia and Ethiopians, not to empress the few disgruntled hopless diaspora politicians. Who cares whether they are happy or not. They will never stop complaining,vomiting and salivating. Let them drown in their own salivation.

2009-12-16
Africa-Climate-Conference




African civil society groups condemn Zenawi’s address at climate summit


APA-Copenhagen (Denmark) African parliamentarians and civil society groups
attending the United Nations conference on climate change in Copenhagen,
condemned on Wednesday proposals made by Ethiopian Prime Minister, Meles
Zenawi, relating to global warming and financing issues before the assembly,
being against the African group’s stand.


According to a press release made public by the chairperson of the Pan
African Parliamentarians’ Network on Climate Change, the Cameroonian
national Awudu Mbaya, the Ethiopian Prime Minister’s report before the
assembly “undermines African negotiators’ stand and that of ministers
attending the meeting.”


The press release describes Prime Minister Zenawi’s proposals as to enable
the increase of temperature level at 2° as a “real catastrophe” for Africa.


“This is likely to threaten the life of millions of people, including the
African population,” warned Mr. Hon Awudu Mbaya in the release.


Another issue also causing anger was the proposal of 10 billion dollars at
the end of urgent action by the Ethiopian Prime Minister, whereas the
African group demanded up to 400 billion dollars.


However, African countries want to compel rich countries to reduce at least
45% of their greenhouse gas emissions.


According to the press release, PM Zenawi’s position threatens the prospects
of African economic and social development and poverty reduction.


African civil society groups which joined African parliamentarians’ protest
described Meles Zenawi’s address as an act of treachery.


“If Prime Minister Meles wants to sell lives and hopes, he is welcome, but
this does not reflect Africa’s position,” said Mithika Mwenda from the Pan
African Climate Justice Alliance quoted by the same release.


Another official from the Climate Justice Alliance, Augustine Njamnshi,
quoted by the press release, said that this statement seems to be a way to
undermine the negotiations.


African parliamentarians and civil society groups call on Africans and even
developed countries to condemn “the unilateral position of Ethiopia.”


They concluded by urging Meles Zenawi to report his position or to give up
acting as the coordinator of the African heads of state and governments on
climate change.



GC/od/dss/daj/APA
2009-12-16

Zman [Visitor]

So... what is wrong if Meles is talking in English to reporters and the other politicians ? Meles speaks the English language with grace and eloquence and why not show to the whole world his dexterity with foreign language. Not only Meles is very erudite but he is also an astute politician. Till Ethiopia find another person of the same league as Meles, we all Ethiopia should be supporting him and be proud of him

YirgaCheffe....

Good Point...

These idiots (hateful diasporas) called him LEMAGNE last week and beyond...

NOW HE DID NOT BEG ENOUGH...

These idiots yet to enlighten us with their LAY-AWAY deals in DC and DUBE BEER in ZIGUBIGNE BETOCH.

not to defend meles but many of you are saying here that meles is selling africa. but how is that? first of all this is a negotiation between two groups where one agrees to help the other. africa has no leverage to force this nations to give 1$ let alone 67bil$/year. this is a good will agreement on their part not some thing you can force up on them. it will be interesting to see if they actually deliver the 30bil/3years they agreed. we also have to realize this rich nations have a stake on the environment polution not just africa and its in their interest to reduce the green gas emission. my advice to the african kinki heads is take the 30bil$ and use it properly to mitigate the problems caused by climate change instead of crying like little babies.

Hey Ye-Woyane Leba, one would presume that an online degree is better than living in eternal state of stupidity like you.

This is a very complex issue for everyone including the US gov't. It's sad that most of our habesha men here seem to lack political or intellectual thinking. Can we STOP posting ignorant comments. Attn: Nazret editor, please pay attention that it's time to maintain a clean platform for all to discuss issues. Look at other blogs, they won't let you post recycled dirt and insults. There should be a limit on what you post.

He sold Eritrea, then Ethiopia,
now Africa if you give him a chance
he will sell the world to Aliens.

SEGERAW YAYEW HULU YARABETAL...
kemeche wedih new degmo weyane yehonkew? u are so stupid u try to dispute meles is nice person..
i thought u are doctr or something i have no respect for u no more your only complex seems to be with ethiopian patriots whom u usually classify as amhara or amharanized oromos..where is u r place in this catagory by the way u idiot?
U GOTTA KNOW MELES IS A BUTCHER
AND JESUS WILL ONE DAY BRING HIM TO JUSTICE NO DOUBT AT ALL!!!!

Jegna [Visitor]

The emotion I talked about is those section in the African group who think they can bergain more than what Meles is trying to get, their position is to stand on their demand without regard of what the other side the negotiation party can and want to offer, I do believe the African group are a bit innocent and naive to the cannibalist international politics. I think Meles had saved the entire summit from collapsing without loosing his own advantage by proposing a highly progressive compensation, with regard to the reduction of carbon emission the developing and the developed world are locked up in the question of SOVEREIGNTY, as the US wants any carbon emission agreement with developing world should also include the right to inspect the implementation of carnbon emission agreements by the developing world, in the same way inspectors were sent to Iraq and Iran.

You should also remember that there are a group of campaigners who think the whole assumption of carbon emission and global warming is not true and think paying any money to the poor countries is paying for nothing. For me I have faith on Meles he is always doing the possible right thing.

Yirgacheffee [Visitor]

"It took me another couple of month to get lucky with her after that. THat was only because she got fired from her parking-lot job thus she had nowhere to go---"

Dud, What is wrong with you? First of all, how on earth did it took you a couple of MONTH to nailed a woman with NO HOME and NO JOB. And to make it wors, you proudly share it with the public. Not to mention the worst possible way to inject race to a poletics discussion. May be you should post it in your face book too.

I am not talking about the poletics of it but the social aspect of it. So, I can't wait to hear your explanation.

addis zemen [Visitor]

This issue is not Diaspora or Non-Diaspora, Meles supporters or non-Meles supporters. The issue is western nations are responsible for a majority of the carbon emissions in the world hence why negotiations are need to decide the best way to compensate developing nations which suffer but don’t contribute to the problem.

Meles is leading the negotiation but a whole delegation of hundreds of people were sent to work out the details. So if the other delegates all feel like he is not representing the best interest of Africa then there is an issue there.

“There are indications that some poor nations most vulnerable to climate change are unhappy with the financial package proposed by Mrs Clinton, which is very similar to the proposal made on Wednesday by Ethiopian President Meles Zenawi. “ BBC

“US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said her administration was prepared to help establish funding of $100bn a year for developing countries if a deal emerges here that meets US requirements.” BBC

By definition you are supposed to negotiate for the absolute best outcome for your side. If the other side is offering more then Meles is asking for, there is a serious disconnect in his method of negotiation. And to add to that his delegation doesn’t agree with his eagerness to accept terms that are beneficial to the developed nations. It is not TPLF he is not the king and final word in this forum, he has to listen to his delegations.

You can either address these basic concerns we have as Africans, or you can call me hateful Diaspora, it will not change the fact that at the end of all these negotiations the deal will become a legally binding treaty. So long after Meles is gone the stipulations of this treat will still affect Africa.

The Woyane morons listen –

The question is not Meles’s intelligence or his understanding of Global Warming. It is his Character. He is the biggest sell out of all time and a shifty opportunist. He is in Copenhagen just to negotiate the potential harm of green house gas to Africa caused by big industrial powers such as China or the US. He is not there as an expert because he simply knows Zero about GW or there is no evidence which proofs otherwise. Once he got there his pseudo mask is unmasked and the real Meles who is a traitor and a spineless snake by nature showed up. Now he is negotiating on side by being lenient just to buy the affection of the big powers at severe cost of the entire continent of Africa. It is not about begging 10 or 30 billion dollars; it is about representing the core principle of Africans in regards to this subject. He has a lot to gain, as the 2010 election approaches. His masters will once again give a blind eye for his mischief to return the favor for his betrayal. This has been his pattern all along. Actually, I would question the intelligence of the people who appointed this thug to speak for Africa before I question his.

Whether it is Meles or other African dictators, the interest of African citizens was never their concern and issue. What matters to them is the foreign exchange money that could be pocketed and stashed back to the banks of the donor nations. Therefore, Meles did not directly sell Africa and its citizens, but the greedy dictators who cry foul in the name of their citizens and those NGOs who are eager to benefit from the loot!!!!
Almost all African leaders are dictators with no moral and dignity to begin with, let alone show any concern to their constituents.

This money is just enough for african leaders. No body cares about africa.

Beggers they don't have right to choose.period.Melles is corret.make a deal snatch the money good principle.

"Global Climate compensation is an African political agenda discovered by HE PM Meles Zenawi, that makes Europeans, US and other developed nations of the world pay Africa tens and hundreds of Billions of dollars a year. No one has the moral high ground to critcze the visionary, eloquent and impressive PM, as it is his idea at first to fight for the cause." -- Goitay

Goitay, just because you watch ETV and believe everything they say about Meles that doesn't mean that you have accurate information. Meles is known for one thing which is hijacking others' ideas and making them his own. He is the copycat and regurgitation machine of all time. So please don't insult him by accusing him of originality. When Meles tells you something you've never heard before, just ask him where he read it. He is the sum of all the books he's ever read. When he reads about Communism, he would make you think he is Karl Marx. When he reads about capitalism, he becomes more capitalist than Milton Friedman. So just ask him who he is playing now?

Eclad, I honestly think that PM Meles is a lot smarter than the African baboons who have been invited to the meeting. I also think I am as half as smart as he is but you and Ms. Free could not even qualify to hold the candle at the PM’s dinner table. Can you please share with us what the “core African principles” are when it comes to global worming? I think you and your bovine friend Ms. Free release more methane than the cattle of the world combined. Please try to understand your own environmental footprint and try to be helpful if you can. Alternatively I can send you my socks / boots to jam it in your pie hole and help you keep your cool. Cheers my friend

Refreshing to hear arguements between the "Best Beggar Representative of Africa and mercinary group against the best Mother of all Destabilizer agents against African States, from African Hall, during KoriT and Menge!

Long live the Independent "David" minds of HOA that nobody would be able to mess up with!

hulu [Visitor] said,

"You wrote; - "...why Africans send melese to Europe?? He’s a high school dropout rebel"

Hulu you are absolutely wrong either you do not know him or you know him and chose to lie. Either way, Meles Zenawi completed his high school in Wengate the finest school Ethiopia to offer and he got the highest grades in the nation in Matric exam 12th grade to go to Addis Ababa University. He was the smartest student during his time. I disagree with him a lot of issues like Eritrea affair and handling TPLF and EPRDF currently to name a few but distorting what is out there is simply to diminish your own words.

Jegna,....

The main issue I was trying to raise is,why people rush to judge the pm before the summit ends. Believe it or not by the end of the day everybody is going to appreciate what pm Meles is up to. He is only trying to get a tangible resonable agreement which makes sense and could be implimented soon. now all of a sudden America is participating with the deal because of his proposal. Secretary clinton brought what america can do, which is by 2020 to make it 100 B. Dollars a year by collecting from other nations and America it self. That is supporting the pm's 30 B.dollars in the next three years,which is also proposed by EU nations.
Because of pm Meles negotiating skill Barak Obama is now very optimistic that America can easly participate and make tangible contribution.
Let's see when the suummit ends tomorrow.

As I said before Meles Zenawi father was the spy of enemy Italians during the war against Ethiopia and he was kicked out from Tigray as SELATE (Ager sheyach). So the blood of his father is with him as he betrayed Ethiopia the people who gave him the highest honor and made them landlocked. When he was young in Adwa he was KUMARTEGNA AND NEVER KEEP HIS WORDS. That how he lead Woyane, that how he is leading Ethiopia and that how betrayed the whole Africa.

Why so much surprise by this man??

When his own country betrayed who nurtured him and educated him and put him in highest office of the land, you guys expect to keep his words and the interest of African countries he does not know most of them????

One thing in his head is if he makes happy to most of powerful western countries like US, England, France, Germany the most critic of him about elections and human rights, they will give him a space to stay in power. Everything he is doing is not for Ethiopia or African countries but to buy time and stay in power. The other thing do not forget, if he become the real obstacle against powerful nations I mentioned on the above, they will come after him whether he is in power or not specially after he leaves power they will track all the looted money and freeze them or forced the Banks to return all his holdings in foreign accounts.

Meles Zenawi BETRAYAL is his shoe when he walks, BETRAYAL is his Beethoven and Puccini classical music when he seats.

ZXAl Shebab,

Meles Zenawi is the biggest saver of terrorist and killer like your master Shaebia in Africa.

While the UN is preparing to freeze you in your barren land, your Shaebia leaders are spreading bogus rumors that the UN is demarking the border to divert attention of the people talking about the latest mass defections and the UN sanctions.

ZXAmechi, how much did the ALEXANDER PUSHKIN STATUE erected in Asmara cost you????

Your people are eating AKAT and you are spending the tax drivers around the world Askaris money for European 18th century unknown man???

So Bandaland Askaris are now the descendent of Alexander Pushkin of Russia????

Lets get something straight here, I dont mind being ruled by a band of bandas due to the fact that they are well militarized. However please stop giving the midgit a Masters Degree. The dude is idiot, he will not even get a BA.

Admit it.

Leba @game

hey LiLkim, it seems that you are having doubts about my gender, and am here to tell you where you can find my manly mark. Ask your pimp and colleague in Khartoum, remember the lady you sold for meles and many others before you became his private general therapist(I wonder what you were ordering to him beside your own rare end), i was once her customer, and she told me that for the first time in her life, i made her feel a full woman. If that is not proof enough, i can drop by your house at Ca-Al-Ca, and will let you relive your fantasy with my boots on, then i will make sure you are left behind without your qachiloch and their never used middle companion.

KIKIKIKIKIKIKI, to begin with he can not represent his little home village Adi Quala, let alone Africa. He is not an Ethiopian. He never believed for one day of his life that he is an Ethiopian. He has never ever talked about Ethiopia for a single day, as a rebel, whose aim was to dismember and destroy Ethiopia. I have repeatedly asked proof of him talking about his hopes and aspirations for Ethiopia THEN. Just because he shot his way to power does not make him an Ethiopian. He is a hater, divider, liar, servant of the Western powers who put him there to begin with. Therefore, please stop this nonsense. The same maglomaniac, village ethnic pest who has done untold damage to the nation fabric of Ethiopia, who insults Ethiopians, dead and living night and day, who is despised by the overwhelming majority of Ethiopians, a looter, hater, divider, can not and would not do anything good for Ethiopia let alone Africa. He has showed by this simple act that he is nothing but a slave for the Western powers who put him there to begin with. It is interesting all kinds of insults thrown at the President of Senegal by Meles's usual blood thirsty cadres. They think Abdullahi Wade came to power by the barrel of the gun, and stays there as such. He is one of the very few truly democratically elected Presidents of Africa.

hey Shewarega, i noticed that when the Senegalese spoken the wavelength and bandwidth difference between the two(between him and meles). What an astounding and telling remark he has made!? I am just wondering, does meles, by any chance, think that he is european or arabian? remember the eritrean sickness?

Free,..the freak,

What is your problem? Don't you have some respect for a woman? Not alone you are talking about our leader's wife. Try to have some manner.
What a looser!!!

African leaders for how long are you going to begger? You are walking on the rich ground, very rich continent.I belive Meles is a smart choice. Gadafi is a stupied man what do you expect from his supporter Senegalies moron; he is the same with Gadafi. Africans can not agree in one accord because of that for on topic every one has plenty conclussion.
My other surprise is why these developed nations want to give money for Africa? They do not have to because it is African problem to exploit the nature using any system. Rather helping them the money they should try to develop to eliminate the dissaster that never going to be happen anyway. In my opinion Meles is the smartest choice they made for this meeting to speak for Africa.
African politicians suspecting their elect is make them more ignorant. It is shame for African politicians and leaders to argue on this matter? It is not their money beggers are not chosers. Shame on you! Trust me, it is going to be a big fight among afriacn nations dividing after they get money.

BARACK Obama and the best-known leaders in the world will gather in Copenhagen today but it is a slight, gently-spoken Ethiopian who has injected at least a faint ray of hope into the climate change summit by opening the way for a breakthrough on climate funding.
Meles Zenawi, a former Marxist guerilla who has spent 18 years ruling Ethiopia, Africa's second most populous country after Nigeria, surprised delegates from most countries and displeased some of the 52 African nations that he is representing in Copenhagen by offering a US$300 billion-a-year compromise on the issue of climate finance.
The average Australian would never have heard of him but if the search for a real climate deal makes any progress over the next few months then Mr Meles might just be remembered as the man who helped to protect Australia as well as his own continent from the worst effects of climate change.
Acting on his own initiative, Mr Meles delighted organizers of the summit by putting back into motion one of the key deadlocked issues.
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Some African politicians were quick to accuse him of selling out his continent.
"If Prime Minister Meles wants to sell out the lives and hopes of Africans for a pittance he is welcome to, but that is not Africa's position," said Cameroon MP Awudu Mbaya Cyrpian, the president of the Pan-African Parliamentarians Network on Climate Change.
The problem for Meles's critics was that the 54-year-old Ethiopian had laid the groundwork for his proposal so skilfully and quietly that he had left his opponents with little time and few options to thwart him.
The same strategic 'nous' has allowed him to become one of Africa's longest serving leaders and to make his government a favoured recipient of US military and financial aid despite his poor human rights record, which includes jailing political opponents and allowing his security forces to shoot dead 200 civilians who dared to protest against rigged elections in 2005.
Just two weeks ago the G77 group of 130 developing nations, which is heavy with African states, was warning that there could be no climate change deal unless industrialised nations handed over at least 1 percent of their annual economic output, or $US400bn a year, to help poorer countries cope with climate change.
China vowed last week to help Mr Meles adopt that hardline approach, making the financing issue the latest battlefield in the growing contest between China and the West for influence in Africa.
The G77 is chaired by China's staunch ally Sudan and last Monday's walk-out from negotiations by African officials was led by another hardliner, Algeria, which was chairing the African Union for the bureaucrat-level talks.
But Mr Meles was appointed some months ago as the African Union's spokesman for leader-level climate talks, and he decided in recent days that the union's huge demands could never succeed.
Instead he offered to accept the sort of numbers that European leaders have already said they could live with, as long as the money came from reliable sources and was backed by a guarantee that the Africans would have a strong say in the administration of any money they receive.
By the time he rose in the main conference hall in Copenhagen to unveil his proposal he had discussed it in a 48-hour blitz of talks with western leaders including Nicolas Sarkozy, Gordon Brown and Kevin Rudd, and explained it at the last moment to his fellow African leaders.
Mr Meles, who has sent his eldest daughter to study at Oxford and his two other children to his country's most elite English-speaking school, essentially accepted figures that had been put forward by the British PM Mr Brown by demanding $US10bn a year in climate funding from next year, rising to $50bn by 2015 and $100bn by 2020.
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton yeswterday signed up to the $100bn figure, putting it on the way to becoming a new consensus figure.
The Ethiopian insisted that Africa would have to have an equal say with donors in overseeing such funds but European leaders were so grateful to see any sign at all of compromise at Copenhagen that they quickly accepted his conditions, making it likely that the funding issue can be settled if other sticking points can also be budged.
Wary of the West's poor record of keeping its aid promises, Mr Meles demanded that a panel of experts should be given just six months to examine more reliable and "innovative" funding methods such as new fuel taxes on shipping and aviation, the sale of carbon credits, a new "Tobin tax" on financial transactions, or the use of IMF assets.
"I know my proposal today will disappoint those Africans who... have asked for full compensation ... for damage done to our development prospects," he told the summit.
"My proposal dramatically scales back our expectation of the level of funding in return for more reliable funding and a seat at the table in the management of such a fund."
"We are not here to preach or grandstand. We are here to negotiate, to give and take, and seal a fair deal however messy such a deal might be."
Conceding that a failure to reach a deal would hurt vulnerable poor countries more than wealthy nations, he said that "because we stand to lose more than others we have to be flexible."
"Such flexibility should not be confused with desperation," he added, warning that if his conditions were not met he would use Africa's clout to ensure that no deal of any kind could be signed a deal at Copenhagen.
Ethiopian journalist Simegnish Yekoye said later that even though Mr Meles looks and sounds like an academic rather than a revolutionary fighter nobody in his home country had any doubts that he was tough enough to carry out his threat.
At the age of 19, Mr Meles dropped out after two years of medical school in the capital Addis Ababa to join guerillas fighting the Mengistu communist military junta. By the time the rebels took power in 1991 36-year-old Mr Meles was in control.
He established a one-party state until the collapse of the USSR led him to improve ties with the United States and adopt more liberal economic policies, a bond that strengthened when the Bush Administration was looking for allies in its "war on terror".
He has since found time to complete an MBA by correspondence through Britain's Open University and a master's degree in economics from a Dutch university, while becoming something of an expert on the climate disasters that have inflicted droughts, floods and more widespread malaria on the 80 million people of Ethiopia.

Hey Ms. Free, I would like to get a confirmation from Shewagered that you are actually a “he” and not an “it”. Is that possible? Pretty please!

Lekim -

Beside making you shut your rotten pie hole, I don’t think I can help you understand Africa’s principles (concerns) to approach the global warming issue. You are just way too foolish and retard to comprehend that. However, as cripple and mentally impaired girly fagot you are, it is refreshing to see you placing yourself beneath your master Meles by claiming your IQ is not even half of his. It is called worshiping your God. You are a monolithic moron who deserves slapping to sink reality in his dim - witted little brain.

However, if one of your domestic partners will assist you in explaining, I am once again ready to shower your half breed head. Let me try to enlighten you with my generous tip: “ the major obstacle to reaching a comprehensive agreement on global warming is the setting of greenhouse gas emission reduction targets for individual countries. Africa being the least producer and the main victim of green house gas, there is a lot at stake. Making big industrial nations responsible for their destruction and let them come to the term of paying for it requires a unified and strong position.” This is the principle. To negotiate, it takes a principled leader not a sell out like your sugar daddy.

My LiLkim, there is no need to consult a third person when you can see it and taste it for yourself. You shall realize in no time that it is in fact an IT not a he when you start enjoying a mouthful of painful pleasure that you have been dying to experience since the day you left Khartoum and the job you were born to do. How could that be a he then, it is definitely an it. I know you would agree all holes opened.

concerned stated"meles is the most intelligent person in THE WORLD" how funny ..get a reality check first and then write.

NoStRaDaMuS,

I can take most of the post written by I guess a journalist but not the followings:

"while becoming something of an expert on the climate disasters that have inflicted droughts, floods and more widespread malaria on the 80 million people of Ethiopia."

What Meles contributed to climate change in Ethiopia???

What flood did he learn from and prevented another flood from???

Tigray his own state was barren 19 years ago and it is barren today the same as 19 years ago.

Lasta poster told us about 3 weeks ago Meles sold the Wollo Woreda forests planted by Derg to Saudi Arabia Lumber Company with out any plan to replenishing them.

How Meles did become climate change expert???

For honesty Issayas Afewerki had done a lot to change his landscape with his limited resources than Meles Zenawi who got over $40 billion so far from outside world.

I have seen so many videos Issayas Afewerki visiting road contractions, small dam projects, farming lands and other projects in the countryside and he never ware tie except field jacket. On the other hand Meles ware tie all the time and never been in any projects or farming lands. In Tigray he never walked in any places except Mekele flies from Addis to Mekele air port for a day or so. He has not seen any project or road constructions, in fact there are not projects going on in Tigray state to visit the last 19 year except the national project Tekeze, he was there for the opening of the operation.

Halafi agdami,...
Now you are telling us your true identity of a SHABIA CYBER SPOKESPERSON. I suspected a long time ago. No surprize for your uncontrolable lamentation for every development made in Ethiopia.

Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]

I am observing you are getting too attached to Tigray state and also want the PM to be like you. Please move beyond tribal Identity perception to a national, continental and international level of thinking, compering the work of Meles and Issayas is outragious.

Meles is not the PM of Tigray.

I knew it.
I knew that there was a real chance that Golbal Warming talk would make a good PARROT out of Zenawi.

people people why cant u understand? when will u understand? dum people pls this is 21 century but u guys are thinking like....forget it.lazy ass people.
King meles keep continue the good work. we need u!

Halafi Mengedi said,

"As I said before Meles Zenawi's father was the spy of enemy Italians during the war against Ethiopia and he was kicked out from Tigray as SELATE (Ager sheyach). So the blood of his father is with him as he betrayed Ethiopia the people who gave him the highest honor and made them landlocked. When he was young in Adwa he was KUMARTEGNA AND NEVER KEEP HIS WORDS. That how he lead Woyane, that how he is leading Ethiopia and that how betrayed the whole Africa."

Very true story. Besides his education level is a first year drop out in around 1970 which become an obsolete while he was in "MEDA" serving Isayas, his master and destroying Ethiopian bridges.

FREE,

Do not waist too much time on raw sewage. In due time, it will flow where it is intened to.

Halafi,

Everytime I read your post you surprise me. Others can say whatever they wish, I know what a true person you are. Even with so much hatred to Eritreans you did not fail to say the good parts of Isayas. I would say even more than all, he does not divide his people. He thinks all part of Eritrea belongs to him. He does not sell the interest of his country to outsiders.

It is interesting, the same empty barrels of Meles (bado bermel malet new) accuse you of being an Eritrean. Do not even for a second let that bother you. JUST KEEP ON SAYING WHAT IS ON YOUR MIND FREELY. Berta.

For those who think Meles is not Ethiopian....GUESS WHAT...

MELES IS AFRICAN NOW!!!


Eat your mother fkn heart out.

Yo...Ni,

These are other leaders of Africa who are saying it is not up to you(meles), this is not an Ethiopian affair, it is not like stealing elections but the lives of Africans. For now, they are telling us Meles sold out Africa. Who knows, they may see it his way in the future but till that time comes, here is what they are saying NOW.....

“If Prime Minister Meles wants to sell out the lives and hopes of Africans for a pittance, he is welcome to, but that is not Africa’s position,” said Mithika Mwenda of the Pan African Climate Justice Alliance.

“Ten billion dollars will not buy developing countries’ citizens enough coffins,” Mr. Di-Aping [Sudanese diplomat and leader of G77] said bitterly last week

"I appreciate what Prime Minister Zenawi says, but I do not agree with most of it. May be because we seem to be on a different wavelength" Senegal's President

And it all fits the traitor habit of the woyane bandas and their supporters. It is Meles who is the sell out... if you know what I mean.

. . .before he reach to copenhagen, he stopover other country to get the final word who paid him while the whole Africans butchered helplessly. . .

The Right Way [Visitor]
Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]

"As I said before Meles Zenawi's father was the spy of enemy Italians during the war against Ethiopia"

Neither in this world nor in the world to come nobody is juged by his father, what a lame reasoning is this?

Hey Ms. Free where is my response to you and your Gered friend? I suppose one way of wining the argument is having your friends at Admin deleting debilitating comebacks.

U cannot trust any of these African clowns...Mela-asss knows it pays off to be loyal dog to these nations when u are a dictator and no support among your people.

Ye Meles Ahya, Wedi Ma'koru,

We don't talk to RAW SEWAGE. Just flow out the gutter to the Sea, where you once went to celebrate the dismemberment of Ethiopia.

guys please stop commenting under my name thanks and stop crying. thaks