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something great is comming to eritrean and ethiopia in the near feuture in the name of amanuale(god with us) jesuse is lord and savior.

Ali Abdu, "we chose to be free and independent" , how can you convince your own people that they are free and independent while they are fleeing by thousends every day.

What do we expect from Shaebya? If any one ask Bin laden if he is terrerist he will say " no I'm a prophit" the same for Shaebia period

Ethiopia should not open any dialog with shaebia what os ever in the future. Ethiopia should wait until shaebia toppled.

mikias,
Halleluya!

AYTE ISSAYAS,

BE'ABUNE AFTSE-ZE'YEHA YE'INATWO GEDAM YIHUNBIGN'INA, BEMENFESSE GIBIZNET TEWLDEW BEGIBZNET INDAYIMOTU NISSEHA BIGEBU MIN YIMESSLIWOTAL ??

Hey Mikias, who said Jesus is not Lord? I think this is a political conference not religious outcry. It is good to wish and hope a good thing however you have to understand not to mix religion and politics. As far as Eretria’s behavior, they will be punished more as long as they keep cooperating with Iran. The main thing people need to understand here is, the sanction is not because of supporting insurgence in Somalia, in my opinion that is not the most priority towards US interest comparing with having IRAN in DAHLAK or ASAB which helps to full fill the IRANIAN dream to wipe Israel of the map and that is very crucial for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ERITREAN leaders can sell anything for money from disposal of toxic chemicals (radio active materials) which can affect the generation of Eritrea and neighboring countries selling arms to Sri Lanka and Somalia you name it.

"We are free and independent." I am sure he mean Isaias and co.

The neurotic child is crying once more.

mikias
amen amen amen

it always amazed me, some people may lie some times and some where. but i never see and never expect to see in the near future those shabeans to speak a single word which is truth. at even this critical time they are still cheating and laying.remember, when they have defeated by our gallant force in badme, those foolish Eritreans has been beat kebero in Asmara hearing what the propaganda has lied. now it becomes obvious that the regime in Eritrea is at its 11.59 hour. but still laying.

bravo abdou keep it up your country free from colony and stabilizing the horn.the sanction is not affecting only asmara but also the horn

There should be no doubt in your mind that Eritrea will have Badme by hook or crook. The rule of law should be respected and all international forces that respect the rule of law are behind Eritrea.

Again, the end game for Eritrea is the respect of the rule of law. Everything between now and when the rule of law is respected, is just an extra drama. It is just entertainment. I advice citzens of A- weird -GAME to understand they are just being entertained.

What beligrance, what shamelessness. Well that is shabia for you and woyane is not far behind. One thing right this man says is what a liar they, shabia and woyane both, are. What is comical is he has forgoitten it was the sudan who did helped in the early days of the terrorist shabia/woyane movement.

The audacity of this punk ass shabia who has been a terrorist all his life calling the then legitimate Ethiopian government that was fighting his terrorists group, a terrorist, is beyound comprehension. What a punk shabia. As they say, if one does not see the error of his ways, one will not be truthfull... liar shabia.

We are vigilante and strong as never been before, we will see what will happen. Eritrea never ask for aid nor for donation we never had starvation as many of you wish for us, thanks to PIA, we respect his work and decision and not getting into prostitution, ha ha lol.

first of all, A banana republic with remittance based economy is hardly independent. secondly do eritreans ever wonder how long they can continue to blame others for all their deficiency or shortcomings? the idiot complains about ethiopia being a western puppet and so on, but does he understand that making friends by itself takes skill and maturity which Eritreans lack by nature? does he understand Ethiopia's right to chose it's friends and do right or wrong to to protect it's own interest? so what is the point of crying foul when the whole point of being independent is to put up or shut up? so my dear eritreans, no matter how we do it, the name of the game is " us against you". simple us that. put up or shut up

"I mean they don’t even blink when they lie." Not that i support the recent sanctions imposed upon you but that's one funny statement coming from our heavily confused Eritrean brother who's lying to his teeth when he renounce their habitual game of sponsoring sergogebs. Believe me, i'm not even entirely against the LFs wrecking havoc in my country but YOU DO support them and do so for one particular reason whilst Ethiopians support them to get out of the iron fist of the fascistic gov't of woyane. One thing we all know is that these LFs will never succeed in their quest of releasing 70+ million Ethiopians from their imprisonment in their own country unless of course they join arms and stand on common ground to oust their common enemy, weyane.

"Because we chose to be free and independent we didn’t allow..." now that's a good statement, you finally admit that all you've been fighting is neo-colonialists which never equates to Ethiopia, your own mother who plenty times has fallen prey for colonial powers but each and single time has fought back her enemies back to whatever kind of hell on earth they came from. And unless you're in a static delusional state that's a big BOLD FACT (a REAL history of grandiosity as one Amiche blogger would call it) not even western supremacists can erase from their own history books. Now YOU, the former slave, have the audacity to call us slaves? No moron, it's rather once a slave always a slave, the only thing we'll admit to is that our gov't is a hateful, mercenary, perpetuated first by you and now aided by western countries and as such a home grown cannibalistic, blood thirsty, group who would do anything in this world, including performing services of any kind, to out survive the once, fearless unless before GOD the almighty, ppl of Ethiopia. I doubt that will ever happen though, as long as there is an Ethiopian breathing. One day, one way or the other we will be free from weyane.

displaced:I've written you a reply on the last thread and hope you've seen it.

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No matter what the fucken world or Ethiopia said I sure you nothing will happen to E R I T R E A. Ethiopians with all problem surrounding your country why do you waste your time dreaming bad thing to happen to Eritrea. Pray to all your opposition party in prison, pray to your leader not to sell your 300,000 free lands to western.

"Ethiopia’s security services chief reportedly accused neighboring Eritrea of arming "TERRORISTS" along the Ethiopian-Sudan border to disrupt elections in both countries scheduled for 2010."

one word he (woyane man) forgot to say .. deldeye afrash?... now i blive history repets itself!!
i heard mengistu hailemariam said those words a9 years ago!

"neo colonializm, political prostitution" What the hell is this brain dead shabia is talking about. It is not Ethiopia who gave you suckers an arm imbargo as you deserve. It is the UN to cry out loud. Let me tell you this. Don`t apear as if you were strong and brave fighters, and proud nation, because that is not the fact. History tells us that YOU have been licking Italians asses for decades until Haile selassie the Emperror of Ethiopia came and saved you out of your missery. Go back to school learn how to read and then find some history books and READ and learn about your self.

WepE, Yes I have, my friend. Thank you. You were very generous and I appreciate that.
I wanted to replay, and that was my main reason for visiting Nazret tonight. But it was too late. Thank you again.
Ahune Beka Endae, enough of Nazret, go to sleep.

We Ethiopians are lucky to have a strong govt led by woyane and pm Meles zenawi. If it was not for the woyanes, by now shabia would have controlled our country,and only God knows with their hatred against us, what would they have done to us.
What makes me so angry is that some diaspora politicians are supporting shabia and are willing to fight along side the eris to get rid of woyane even if it means killing Ethiopians and destroying our country Ethiopia. This is known as donkey politics and philosophy of "ENE KEMOTIHU SERDO AYIBKEL".
Eritrea will always remain as A STATE OF DENIAL,A STATE OF CHAOS,AND A STATE OF DELUSSION. As long as shabia and its sympathizers exist.

"The consequences of the past decade are known to all. The Federation instituted between the people of Eritrea and the rest of Ethiopia has tended to slow the speed of the economic and social progress of the entire nation, including Eritrea.
The Federation has increasingly been manipulated as a ready-made tool through which the enemies of Ethiopian and Eritrean progress and solidarity have endeavoured to further their evil designs.
The Federation contains the inherent danger of creating misunderstandings among people who have, for centuries past, experienced no problems in living together.
The Federation, by duplicating administrative apparatuses, has occasioned waste of both human and material resources which could have been otherwise utilized for development purposes.
One is accordingly fully justified in concluding that the unfortunate consequences of this particular form of federation and the needs of the age, and not any conscious effort on the part of the people concerned, have brought about its demise." Negus Haile Selassie, Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy!, Long Live the Kebra negast!, Fire burn down the witchcraft star of ethnic federalism, Rise with the Lion of Judah!, Long Live Independent Ethiopia!

Eritrea has not become poorer in many ways, moreover the most capable intelligentsia must have been liquidated before and after independence for such a childish illiterate person to act as information minister.

Eritrea has not become poorer in many ways, moreover the most capable intelligentsia must have been liquidated before and after independence for such a childish illiterate person to act as information minister.

Tigray are bigger but we ERitreans are free.To destory Tigrai is very easy and they will go back to stone age.they will soon.The Ethiopians are ready to fight this savage people once to all.This time they will never see light agian

Comic liar is a good description of Meles.But he is also a dawarf traitor whose hand is socked with the blood of non tigre Ethiopians

Dave,you must be still asleep or half dead to say that woyane is protecting the interest of Ethiopia.Woyane has never tried to protect ethiopia's interest in its entire history.According to its manifesto the destruction of Ethiopia was its main goal.

EriMan
AMEDAME AGAMAY
do not compair yourself with ETHIOPIANS. Is that the reasone why you hide your nasty identity and you say you are from ETHIOPIA

What goes around comes around, Lonely Isaias is liking his self inflicted wounds. Trying to play with big boys could result in a severe injury or even a painfull death. Whinnying is not going to help you now, your demise is predictable. Your people are preying to see your last breath on this earth.Even your best friend Melese has tuned his back on you. He will see you in hell with your mentor Mengistu.

wepE

Hi wepe,you are right and in this case Eri boys are lying but I don't know of why they're lying now? Anyway,Isn't it too late to listen from them of that saying anything? even that if they have it the worthy truth I thing its to late for them.Sorry and too bad for the civilians.

However,everyone knows that Melse Afwork play their dirty games(proxy) in the expense of both civilians(Somalia/Ethiopian)life's.
Since,they started worrying for their power losing,none of them wanted to go for war and risk his power.Melese and Issia both knew if they go a 3rd round of direct war,that either one will loose the power so they decided the support of rebels of both sides to overthrew each other so its well known their gorilla and dogfights both locally and internationals.Both cities of (Addis/Asmara)were stationed and opened Radio's of propaganda and contentiously were the fighting's going on the diplomacy of world relations and that war of diplomacy,and in that fight Melese won last wk after he sanctioned and isolated Asmara regime from the rest of the world.
However,the war btw them wasn't that diplomacy parts alone which Melse won the international voices against Issia regime and imposed sanctions in last wk.While on the other hands,it seems that Issia got it the upper hand after he won to organize and armed all Ethiopian rebels in Asmara and supply weapons against Melse and to overthow woyane regime from Addiss.
these all armed Ethiopian oppositions as well that included the owner of popular media (Ethiopia review) Ato Keffle,Issia still has the upper hands of the dirty proxy wars since that he uses Ethiopia for against other Ethiopians and that he saved the lives of his soldiers dying on that useless war games btw Melse and him so the winner is that Issia c levered over Melee since that he used back for his own Ethiopians to overthrow him.

Wepe,I agree with you there is dirty games BTW these twin dictators that each one using against to other simply to overthrew in the expenses of both sides civilians.So whoever denying that facts,is coward lair or a backward who still trying to use the old fashioned ways of that Warsaw and NATO era days.

Mostly,the communist Shabiya and their trainee woyane cadres uses the same method of cold wars propagandist.

Everyone,they both lied to the international communities.But melese,more flax and smarter than rhetoric dictator of Shambiya communist leader who couldn't manage a 4milion tiny populated Eritrean and that while a Melse managing a twenty times bigger country,a country of 78 millions populations,the 2nd Africa's over populated country after Nigeria.

Did you ever watch the videos of Issia and rhetoric and outspoken words,if you watch Wepe, you remember those empty rhetoric and provocative words of Sadam Husien or that late Arfats,the always angry man,While Melese reminds you the tricky Jewsh leaders,specially that soft spoken shamonpress,their differences and one can be deny that truth.


Have nice day.

Once again we will nver kneel down and the Eritean government is a servant like the government of weyane and Uganda becouse we are free

Ethiopia is facing a lot of hurdles. Eritrea when betrayed by Weyane for economic reason, turned to LF's and eppf against Weyane. These fighters however most fight to break Ethiopia so they are enemies of Ethiopia unfortunately except eppf. We should support eppf while try to bring sense into the LFs. Remember, let us not fall prey on LFs. We thought after Mengistu TPLF will put the country to true democracy. Unfortunately, our country is going through tough times. So people, let us not fall prey on any LFs but try to negotiate. Imagine Ethiopia would have been free from tyrany if these LFs supported Ethiopians. Instead, they got greedy that ONE DAY they will have their own indpendence and that let Ethiopia suffer in the meantime. Their idiotic thinking is making their own people suffer. Therefore, Eritrea harboring these factions is not to be trusted. Now all Eritreans are turning towards Ethiopians they put down insulted when they have no where else to go especially embargo by UN is a serious issue for Eritrea. As usual, their empty pride is going to blind them. In general, Ethiopia is facing a double sword. From inside we have the most undemocratic and anti Ethiopia government. From outside, the same anti Ethiopian supported by Arabs like Egypt who wants to see the demise of Ethiopia. We have to make sure eppf is supported in this.

wepE,

I am not sure where see the government of Eritrea denying that they do support the OLF and ONLF. They have never denied that. What they are denying, and rightfully so, is the allegation that they have been helping the terrorist in Somalia. Anyone that claims that this is a lie (such as the US or Ethiopia or Uganda) should provide some evidence to support their allegation. But to pass a resolution to sanction a country without providing anything that resembles proof, is just a politically motivated sanction that is not based on anything other than the interest of the parties involved.

As far as your claim about Ethiopian history (Ethiopia having fought back European colonial aggression), it is also a little off. While Italy’s defeat by Ethiopia was a proud moment not only for Ethiopia, but also for Africans in general and other countries that were colonized by white people, lets not be confused about the end result. Italy did occupy, colonize, control (whatever you want to call it) Ethiopia for over 5 years until the British came to “liberate” Ethiopia. During the invasion your beloved monarch did run away with his tail between his legs until the British restored him. Its good and commendable to be proud and patriotic, but its even better when you can be that with your eyes open to reality.

When the information minister of Eritrea calls the current Ethiopian regime “slaves”, it’s because their actions and policies are dictated to them by their donors. They will do as there are told when the interests of the west are on the line, even if it goes against the interest of the country that they represent. That makes them modern day colonial slaves. Being poor or a developing country does not mean that you have to sell yourself and your people to foreign interest (such as invading Somalia on the behest of the US or selling your fertile lands to Indian, Arab, or Chinese firms who turn around and export the food back to their home country) when your own people are starving. Who else but a slave minded group of people would have a fertile country that can rival almost any in the world, vast amounts of fresh water, access to more than enough cheap labor and still be one of the most foreign food aid dependant country?

Dear Dave or should I say Dawitt (don’t be ashamed of who you are and you don’t need to westernize yourself among other Africans, we accept you for who you are and you should as well).

This banana republic does not depend on the world to feed it. Its leaders do not have to go on a begging tour while only months earlier they claimed that there was no famine in Ethiopia. It does not rely on NGOs to provide social services for its citizens. It does not have foreign polices that are dictated to them by foreigners.

If you think that the US and Ethiopia are friends that are on equal footing and that this relationship is beneficial for both people (by people I do not mean just the governments, but the populations as a whole) you are sadly mistaken.

It was/is not US lives that were lost during the invasion of Somalia. Are you going to justify to the families of these lost lives that it’s ok for Ethiopian people to sacrifice their lives for US interest? How long do you think until this mess in Somalia spills over to Ethiopia when leaving the ICU who was able to provide law and order there would have benefited everyone in the horn? The ICU was not an extremist group at all and it’s only since their collapse that you have fanatics like Al Shabaab taking power.

Making friends and looking after your interest is a smart move. But the relationship has to go both ways. But acting on the interest of a foreign nation in matters in your own backyard for some foreign aid is the action of…a puppet government.

AN ULTIMATUM TO ERITREANS WITH A STATE OF DENIAL,..

To be or not to be that is the question,
Whether to destroy you and making you suffer,
By the slings and arrows of outragious justice,
Or to take arms against your leaders,to give you freedom,
And by doing so,end your trouble and misfortune,
We sleep no more,
Till we end the heartachs and the thousand natural shocks that you eris hire to,
It issssss a consumation devoutly to be wished,
To free, to liberate you eritreans,from your none sense Singapore dream,
Per chance north Korea you became.
Hey,.. theeere is the rub,
For in that dream of yours what may be the out come,
In a state of dellusional DIKKAM,
Mark my word,maaark my wooord,
Ethiopia is marching ahead!!
In the developmental road,
By getting rid of poverty and hinderance,
Never to look back,and continue on our PROGRESS.

LONG LIVE PM MELES ZENAWI!!!
LONG LIVE EPRDF!!!

Dearest displaced: No more roses please, I'm serious. You're raising me tooooo high. Thank you for everything and again I'm very sorry, this time for causing you a sleepless night. Wish you a good night/morning/day.

Wadaini my brother I see what you mean. These folks have no shame. They brought their war, problem and power struggle over to Somalia. Now Somalis suffer and Somalia is among one of the many battle field grounds of these two beasts. Meles brags about it while the other one lies to his teeth about his involvement for fear of that sanction. And you're absolutely right, meles indeed is gathered all the time even when he is showing his most disgusting sides. Isayas on the other hand is a copy of Saddam. I saw his interview with a Swed and i just couldn't believe my ears the man is just a paranoid moron, has basically unplugged himself the reality as we perceive it. He was telling the interviewer that Eritrea's economy was BETTER than Sweden's! But i've to disgree with you on one thing, i don't think poor Isayas will ever get the upper hand as long as meles rides on the back of Ethiopians. it's just impossible. But if Isayas was smart enough he would make peace with Ethiopians and fight meles along side them then join the two nations. At least i give him a credit for loving his country. He is more like Menge. A brutal dictator who loves his country.

Daniel: "...accused neighboring Eritrea of arming terrorists along the Ethiopian-Sudan border...Abdu denied the accusations, saying Asamara is against terrorism."

So you're telling me the above statements are about: "terrorist in Somalia"? Wendme zim blo be gegemaw diriq malet kebad new. If you're not disconnected from reality, to think that LFs can only be seen as a freedom fighters, is foolish. What insurgents do includes terrorizing their own ppl and others. Ask weyane or OLF about that. The entity (shabiya) you're defending like a payed defense counsel, was once the sole ally of the other one (weyane) you're defaming like a maniac.

About Ethiopia being colonized, I'm tired of discussing it with ppl like you. Ke balebetu yeweqe buda new yelal yagere sew. So now you're more Italian than Italians themselves? What's your problem? Go ask your english professor the difference between colonization and occupation! Not all occupations result in colonies. And Italy's occupation of Ethiopia definitely didn't. Italy never rested for a second, always fighting Ethiopians all over the country, while heroes like Zereay Deres in rome killed them and made them kill each other for seeing his country's flag getting dragged on a dirty ground. Today you and your alike shamelessly take the right to claim Ethiopia a colony. Shame on you!!! You were our equal if you knew it but you felt inferior before and you'll forever feel inferior like some dumbass nigerian freak who hate Ethiopians for some odd reason.

With regards to what said about the monarch i won't add a word. Bante bet ye Ethiopian sem maTfatih ena masaTah new. Forget it, kiss it good bye because no amount of lie or wishful thinking will change the truth, Eritrea was colonized Ethiopia never was and never WILL be. If you're mad that Ethiopia didn't save Eritrea's ass, what i can speculate on is that our leaders not always did things as they saw fit but in accordance with what the situation they were in was like and maybe saving Eritrea was like inviting the enemy inside. After all many Eritrean's are renowned backstabbers. I get mad talking to ppl like you who are in their sober minds and still twist existing facts and mold their own and at times spew lies on top of lies so as to get their case through. You're beef isn't with me i know that, it's with Ethiopia, you think you're violating her integrity but as far as we're concerned you don't matter. You were nothing before and you definitely aren't someone to be reckoned with today. I won't say a thing on your last piece because basically what it contains is the same thing as in my previous comment, only harsher words. Finally don't ever forget that Eritrea wanted to be a Singapore sucking the blood of Ethiopians. so don't come in here hard and tell us: "This banana republic does not depend on the world to feed it..." it wanted to grow feeding on us for Gods sake!


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Well wepE,

I take it reading comprehension is not one of your strength.

No other government but the Meles regime calls the ONLF and OLF terrorist. They are rebel groups for sure. They use military means to accomplish their goal, that does not make them terrorist. You claim they terrorize their own people. Show me a link to any unbiased reports by any credible source that shows or proofs that. I doubt you find one as the Meles regime has those affected areas blocked off from the rest of the world. If he himself had nothing to hide, he would allow for media and relief organization access to these areas. This “sanction” on Eritrea has nothing to do with the OLF or ONLF at all.

I am neither defending Shabia nor defaming your uncle Meles, so don’t get all sensitive about that. I am stating the obvious about the Meles government and you will never hear me use the term “woyane” or shabia as neither one of them represents their respective people.

I never claimed to be Italian nor am I proud to have been colonized by either Italy or Ethiopia. What about what I said in my last post would give you that idea? Maybe you need to get off whatever it is you are sniffing on and re-read my post. I never said Ethiopia was colonized bone head. I said colonized/occupied/controlled, whatever you want to call it. The point was that Italy was in complete control of your country and unless some foreign power intervened (as the British did) Italy was going to be in charge of Ethiopia, its people, and its resources for the immediate future at least. Why would I be happy for any one to be colonized, let alone people that looked, like me, had similar culture to me, and had languages similar to that of my country? Again, for you to get that from my previous post shows how far out there you are.


So when exactly were we “brothers”? When we were forcefully annexed? When were stripped of our languages and culture? When we were being burned alive and rolled over by Ethiopian tanks because we refused to give up our own identity and take the identity of Ethiopian? Was it when our woman were raped and shot for not giving in to an Ethiopian soldier? When our young brothers were shot and their bodies let to rot in front of the parent’s house for weeks as a message for anyone that dares to even wish to be free of Ethiopian occupation? Or was it when our fathers and grandfathers were hung in public to kill the Eritrean in them? Please help me out “brother” and tell me when we lived as equals? These times are not that long ago and there are many Eritreans in and outside of Eritrea that lived through them and remember them. This isn’t something from a fiction book; these are people’s personal horrific experiences and memories that they have to live with forever. The only Eritreans that were treated as equals were those that gave up who they were and accepted Ethiopian identity. In other words, those that submitted to Ethiopian will and gave up their natural right to be who they are.

Am I mad that Ethiopia did not save Eritrea? WTF?! Ethiopia could not even save herself never mind saving other people. Many Eritreans are renowned backstabbers? Are you
kidding me? Do you even know the definition of the word backstabber? Say what you want about Eritreans but they will tell you what they have to tell you to you face. They don’t have to stab you in the back; they will look in your eyes and face you like a man.

Of course you won’t say a thing about the monarch who ran away like a coward and left his people only to come back when the fighting was done for him by the British. It’s the truth that not even delusional crack heads like you can deny. You are right, my beef isn’t with you. And it’s not with Ethiopia either. Because the likes of you are a joke who live in a factious world with no sense of reality.

How exactly was Eritrea trying to prosper on the back of Ethiopia? Are you just repeating something your uncle Meles told you without putting your own thought into it? Here is some free advice, do your won research and use your common sense before you believe a government that has mastered the art of lying and deceiving.

You want to sit here now and call me nothing when your ancestors fought for decades with the help of Russia and the US to keep occupying Eritrea? Was this “nothing” worth the hundreds of thousands lives that your ancestors lost trying to hang on to Eritrea? Like I said, you and the likes do live in a dream world.

The crime that is being perpetrated on the Eritrean people by this ruthless dictator and his henchmen is one of the greatest crimes in the annals of human history. Look what 35 years of struggle for “freedom” brought Eritreans.

A ruthless and insane dictator who would sacrifice every Eritrean in orders to hang on to power.

A country where close to 65% of the population relies on foreign Food Aid.

A dictator who holds relatives of those Eritreans who live abroad hostage in orders to forcefully collect % of the expatriates income.

Intitially this con-artist was able to steal the Heart and Sole of the Eritrean people by lying To Them. He used to tell them how unique they are that they are more or less the chosen people, and they are better than anybody else, particulary, Africans.

Unfortunately by the time Eretreans realized that they have been bamboozled by this street thug, it was a bit late. May God help the Eritrean people in their next struggle, which is to rid themselves off this demon.

Lubaneja;

What in the earth are you talking about, you stincky moron kosso shit. Eritrea is much clean and stable and beautiful Red Sea State than Aids Ababa, do you get it ofcourse we don't compare your shit.

sick bastard ! and wait few more years you might not even have chance to write shit.

halafi mengedi aka wedi komarit

ante INFERIOR KEDAMI, TAKE THAT white shilho out of your mouth.

Daniel

So now you resort to insults huh? Your comment shows the level of intellect within the bony walls on the peak of your body at best or your deliberate ignorance at worst. I must have provoked you somehow to deserve your raging methane right at my face. Well i think i'm within my right to be a bit aggressive too. BTW you got it all wrong, reading comprehension is my strength, expressing myself, especially in english on the other hand is a pain. So i suggest YOU scroll up and re-read my post and get me some time worthy reply. For starters you can answer the question over there about your Somali terrorist bluff.

I define backstabber = Eritreans like you. So yes you're a backstabbing freak of nature which is probably why your ass wasn't saved but i don't expect you to come out clean and admit it. Why call me bone head, you did say "colonized" you moron! And unless you suffer from dyslexia the two words are DIFFERENT. Again it's colonization that is the derivative of occupation not the other way around! If you don't want me to answer to it don't put there.

"The point was that Italy was in complete control of your country and unless some foreign power intervened" No master slave that never was the case! Why kill 30000 ppl in a single day if they were in a position of total control? just for fun of it? Only God intervenes when we fail to defend ourselves no other country except Cuba can take credit for helping Ethiopia. The Britts hopped in the last round to claim the victory which belongs to Ethiopian heroes and heroins! Ene Belay Zeleqe be adebabay yetseqelut ante zare afih inditkft aydelem. You the Ertrean slave who would do anything to discredit heroic Ethiopians are unable to accept such a thing anyway so i don't blame you for not acknowledging that fact either. Of course you won't be happy for anyone but you to be colonized so that you can teach the rest of us how to use spoons and the art of forking in addition to the usage of knives as a backstabbing tool, right?

You stupid moron, go on to the other thread here and read what i've written about the Atse before you showed up your eritrean face in this page. But i don't like bad mouthing our dead leaders with outsiders, least of all a cow dung from north. You can curse him all you want all day/night long, but don't expect me to join you. I know you're yet another clueless slave who thinks he knows all about Ethio-Eritrea stuff but surprise slave: You don't even know enough about your own village you call a country which is less than i can save for my self.

I said LFs which includes TPLF/EPLF, so were the hawzen blood bath not orchestrated by TPLF/EPLF, weren't you dung-heads breaking and destroying bridges? So what the heck do you call that? were you pampering 'your' ppl? And wasn't OLF pushing unarmed children, women and men off of a cliff? isn't that terrorizing? What do you make of that? luxurious treat? If that doesn't incriminate our LFs as terrorists i don't know what would. As for providing you with the sources, i suggest you talk to Tamrat Layne a lier but i'm sure all his former comrades lie the same way, more over this is a judgment call, use your common sense, if you have any, that is. Also if you had any sense of how the international political scene is staged it wouldn't take you much to figure out why the US is supporting ONLF, they support them for the same damn reason they supported your shabiyan ass when you were in your original caves.

Was Eritrea not one of the few African nations to export coffee excessively before that damn war broke out? Weren't it a coffee nation? Weren't most businesses in Ethiopia owned by Eritreans? Go ahead and deny a bold fact or blame it on our lack of ability to attain that certain trick of managing an amiche truck or gold shop...

Aren't you getting a little too ironic when you refer to meles as my uncle? Anyway he isn't even Ethiopian let alone MY uncle! I said wendme as a humanbeing but you're a subhuman so i take that back and apologize for insulting you by calling you human. I'm in disagreement with meles at all times, everyone in this room knows that fact but while i condemn him for what he did against my country you, master slave, are mad at him for not letting you get a piece of that cake they baked using Ethiopian blood. Get used to it!


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wepE

Take it easy brother and have happy new years thanks for your civility and maturity.I wish if that many Ethiopians thinking the way you see and analysis politics.Good visionary people,see things beyond there surrounding limited galaxy.
You the one of them that we have in futures.
For Daniel,as born Ogaden person,I do feel and have the feelings of your(Eritreans) painful journey of many wars,exodus refuge,living in refugee camps or that being at war zones for Eritrea independence.That was the choices of Eritreans to separate from Ethiopia while I have the thoughts of why Eritrea choosed separations from the rest Ethiopia,however,that was the options of Eritreans.But honestly after your independence,the people of Eritreans suffered more than before they separated under Issia leadership.I real have many respects of Eritreans but not your leader who in fact thinks there no any other brilliant Eritrean born for the country.The people of Eritrea deserved to enjoyed there independence and recover there past fierce and bitter wars.Instead of that,Afrwork lead the Jr country into many unnecessary wars namely to Sudden,Yemen,Dejabuti and finally to Ethiopia that leading to his close friend alliance Melese regime for no good reasons.I'm not simply trying to blame and talk the eternal Eritrean affairs,but I have questions to rise here.1-Why not asked that afawrik to step down and be the father of the nations of Eritrea?
2-Why the brave people of Eritrea not thinking of where he is leading them for all these years?
3-My third question is about the support of help that he gave our Lfs.A)if that Afwork cares about Ogaden people,why he didn't raised the Ogaden question to Melese when he had the good relations and the hay days in Addis at 4kilo and not trying to discussed and promote solutions with Melese regime?
Did you think now,that Issias Afweriks limited help to ONLF or another OLF would help the Ogaden case? Is it a genuine help to Ogaden case or that he is using our Ogaden youth for his proxy war to overthrew Melse regime? As an open minded person,what you think about Issia's patriotism and rhetoric words to lead Eritrea?

Also,what you think about the future relations of both nations?

Finally,hey Daniel,I really do apologize if you felt that offended by my comments.Have happy new years.


Sincerely by wadani.

wepE,

You did not provoke me at all (just made me laugh and shake my head a little); I am not the one up at 5:00 am replying to a post.


About the above article:

The “author” claims that Eritrea is being accused of supporting terrorist in Ethiopia and Sudan but does not tell you who the accusers are and who these “insurgents” are. Then he takes the comments made by the Eritrean information minister about the sanctions which relate to the alleged support of Eritrea of Al Shabaab and have nothing to do with the rebels in Sudan or Ethiopia and quotes him in the above article. The author is trying to make the allegations, sanctions, and comments that were made in relation to the Somalia issue and present them as if they relate to these empty accusations made in regards to Sudan and Ethiopia. Eritrea has publicly said it supports the ONLF and OLF, why would they turn around and deny them here? Furthermore, why doesn’t the author of this article say who is making these accusations and what insurgents are being supported? There are no sanctions on Eritrea with respects to their support for the OLF or ONLF. The reason for that is that these two groups are not considered terrorist but anyone outside of the Meles regime. They are rebel groups that oppose the current government in Ethiopia and have the courage to stand up for what they believe.



The main defeaters of the Italians in Eritrean and Ethiopia were the British. Even that they didn’t do for you, they did that to defeat the Italians after Italy had sided with the Germans in WW2.You are asking me why they (the Italians) killed 30,000 people in a single day if they were in control if Ethiopia? Well, who do you thing was in control, the people that were being victimized or the people that were inflicting this terror?

Again you are here claiming that the OLF/ONLF did this and that, but can not give me even ONE credible source. How is pushing civilians over a cliff a judgment call? Either they did it or they did not. Since you were not there to say first hand you must have read it or heard it somewhere. If that’s the case, let’s see the source. Let me guess, anything that you can not provide a source to is a judgment call, right? What your uncle Meles tells you to justify his human rights violation in those areas does not qualify as a credible source? So now the US is supporting the ONLF? Have you completely lost your mind? Meles is the US’ biggest ally in Africa!!!!!!!!!! There are US Special Forces right there in Ethiopia training and funding your army. This isn’t even something that is done under the table, its official! The US is looking the other way while human right violations, imprisonment of innocent people, and killing of protesting civilians is happening in front of the whole world. What more proof do you need to see that the US is pro Meles and not pro any opposition groups? Open your eyes and your mind!

This is too funny, now the US supported Eritrea during the struggle for independence too? You really are way out there. Maybe you need to look up the comments made by the then US secretary of state John Dulles to shed some light as to who the US was supporting. In Return for their support the US got the well known listening Kagnew station in Asmara. The US never supported Eritrea not even after Mengistu came to power and sided with the Russian during the cold war, for the simple fact that the US never thought Eritrea could defeat the much larger and better equipped Ethiopian Army. To make sure not to alienate the Mengistu regime for good they (the US) choose not to support the EPLF. Again, can you provide a source for your delusional claims about the US’ support for Eritrea?

Eritrea was never a coffee exporter! Another myth that was spread by…you guessed it: the ugly midget that you call your PM. People just keep repeating what they hear without looking into the credibility of the source. Who did Eritrea sell this coffee too? Why is there not record of it in Eritrea or more importantly by they buyers of this coffee? If there is, please show me. For your information, there are many African countries over 30 that produce coffee in Africa, not few like you are trying to make yourself believe. Educate yourself about an issue before you run your lying mouth about it. Whatever Business was owned by Eritreans in Ethiopia was built from scratch by them. Ethiopia gained as much from those businesses as those Eritrean that put in their capital, sweat, and tears to build them. They were not given those businesses, they built them. How is that prospering on the expense of Ethiopians? Do you know how many businesses were owned by Ethiopians, Eritreans, or any other nationalities in Ethiopia? Where is this claim that “most business in Ethiopia were owned by Eritreans” coming from? I am guessing from the same place that is the basis for you all of your views: Blind hate for Eritrea and Eritreans!

Dear Wadani: Happy new year to you too. My compatriot I rather wish we had more like you, the calm and gathered ones who are cool at all times. I'll never forget what you said about Oromos being the bulk of the fabric of Ethiopia as we know her, that without Oromos Ethiopia would be void. It's ppl like you who are able to hold all of us together. Anyway I wish 2010 to be a prosperous year for all of us. And it's alright I'll take it easy. I'll see you next year.

Daniel: yeah i'm sure it was 5 where you live but not here, not where i live. You see this only shows that you lack a common sense to even let a simple thought venture out, which is why I don't even bother having the common courtesy of treating you as an individual opponent. Did it ever occur to you that there exists a possibility that i might not reside on the same side of prime meridian of greenwich the US lies on which is where Nazret's clock ticks?

Dude something is seriously wrong with you. I show you something, answer your questions and raise my own but all you do is accusing me of things, continuously jump up on to new things and tirelessly making me seem like a weyane cheerleader. I'm not. You hear me? I'm NOT a weyane, never were and will never become one!!! Producing coffee and exporting it are two different things and i even doubt the figure of the producing nations you put out there.

So how would you feel if i told you the empty words you poured up on me about Eritrean men and women getting killed by Ethiopian gov't is a complete lie? But i didn't because i never was there but still i have heard and read about it plenty times to believe that there lies a truth in it, thats what i call a judgment call, if you think you're making fun me you're dead wrong, you're dancing on your own conscious which I'm doubting you possess. I'm a man who believes that every lie contains a shred of truth in it one way or the other. You don't have anything except lying to your teeth when you claim the Eritrean coffee export as a woyane propaganda, tell me that the US never helped you, say eritreans built their business scratch, you don't put an empire over night you dung head, but as i told you before no amount of lie will bring the truth down to the ground.

I'm not interested to further engage this conversation with you. I will end it here as it doesn't appear to be fruitful but before you get too exited thinking I gave up on you, you may wanna cool down and read the following. First of all i don't even know what kind of sources you want me to provide. If i say Kenyan gov't you might throw it into a trash bin as a garbage, if i quote HRW you may call them Americans, more over in Ethiopia Internet is almost nonexistent, which leaves us with books and afe taric as you would call it. So you pretty much didn't leave me a choice but to leave you with wiki, which you can manage on your own. What is credible for me might not "suite" you...i don't know. Btw just so you know the simple fact that US is an ally of meles doesn't put an arms deal sanction on them with ONLF, their satellites were the ones that exposed the burning villages of Ogaden if you didn't knew and yes they were burned down by weyane. The Chinese on the other hand are against ONLF. I hope you get where this goes...if not, you were probably dropped as a child from a very great hight or are very immature when it comes to international political game because even a 12 years old boy/girl would know what the above is all about.

Here are some links:

www.ethiopians.com

www.eedn.org

www.africanreview.org

I only took OLF in the above. The rest is your job, if you don't find them credible you can ask the dead ppl when you get a chance. I also want you to know that i don't hate Eritreans just despise some of them, namely your type. They were once my brothers and sisters and so shall they be in the near future, i can guarantee you that. Well I better get back to celebrating and welcoming ye ferenjoch new year! Happy new year everyone including you Daniel!

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Meles = Esayas
They both are dectators!
One is up front
and the other is doing is running a lie election.
Isayas is fulish while talking to reporters while Melew is smooth good lier!
It is your chioce but at the end of the day both are about destruction!

wepE


The only thing that you have shown is your ignorance and hatred towards Eritrea. You make claims that go against what has been proven in history and when I ask you for a source you provide me with nothing but “it’s a judgment call”.

The list I gave you is exhaustive list of coffee producing and exporting countries in Africa in the mid to late 1990’s. The point of that list is that Eritrea was not on that list. Was not even mentioned once. Here is the link for you to see for yourself. http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/X6939E/X6939e02.htm

You want to call me dumb while you don’t even understand the basic meaning of what “judgment call” is. The massacre of Eritrean civilians by Ethiopia is something that has been written about, documented, and proven, by not only Eritrean people, but by independent observers. A judgment call is something that can not be proven with certainty and depends on the view of the person.

You want me to tell you what kind of source I want you to provide? How about the source where you got it from? The medium, author, link, etc, anything that is credible and can be verified….unless of course you are pulling your claims out of your ass.

You don’t hate all Eritreans? Only my type? What type is that? The type that will tell you that I am not Ethiopian, never was, and never will be? The type that will tell you yes we can live together as neighbors in peace but I will not give up my identity, culture, language and country for you? I see things have not changed that much in the last 60 years. We were never brothers and sisters. Don’t ever be confused about that. There are common ancestors between some Eritrean and Ethiopian ethnicities, but that’s where it ends. If we were brothers and sisters none of those atrocities committed by the Mengistu or Haile selassie would have occurred. If we were sisters and brothers the countless villages and innocent people would not have been bombed and chemically gassed for decades.

Oh ya, and those linked to articles that have been written by other Ethiopians with as much ignorance and hate as you are not credible sources, nice try though. For a source to be credible, it has to be impartial and show some evidence of their claims.

I wish for peace and prosperity for all of the HOA including Ethiopia. But the hate spewed here by most of you really makes me doubt that will ever happen.

there is no difference between Meles and Esayas eplf and tplf are one and the same both are criminals and traitors of their own people both are payed agents of the extremist anti ethiopian group from the arab world and the western nations - both are killing and imprisoning their own people in the tthousands - poverty,deases and ignorance is their speciality - both must be eradicated just like mosquitos

Daniel(Respectfully)
(main stream Eritrean)


This short comment should not be considered as interference/disruption of your on going debate with wepE.This is just to clarify the demand/request of evidence you asked wepE,concerning Olf's atrocities.

1- I have four family members two from Bedeno,two from Aniya(Genemi)who witnessed when the OLF people throw their victims over the cliff into Ramis River(one of the victim was a Selale Oromo).

2- a, Concerning American support of Eritrea during the conflict I suggest you read the book by Philip Agee,him self a CIA agent in south America in 1977"Inside CIA company diary" to find out what was going on in Khartoum at that time about Eritrea.
b,If you are really interested to know much about American support of Eritrean causes(if you have resources & time) go to the New York Times archives of 1980,81 & 82, look the three Editorial of the late William Safire,You will find out how the Reagan & Margaret Thacher administrations supported Eritrea against Communist Derge.Thanks.

wepE happy new year!!
Wadani Happy new year.

“This is simply a political prostitution and it’s meant to exploit the recent UN resolution, and this click is a comic click of liars. I mean they don’t even blink when they lie. I think your government, meaning the United States molded this spoiled child in Ethiopia by offering political subsidy. As far as we are concerned to be frank with you, we never take into account these comic liars’ statement as serious,” he said.
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... ali abdu may lie to foreigners but ethiopians and eritreans know fully how deeply shabia is involved in ethiopias internal affair. the over 6 hour interview isayas gave to elias kifle of er detailing his relationship with ethiopian rebel is one good evidence no "aynen ginbar yargew" swearing can hide.


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Abdu denied the accusations, saying Asamara is against terrorism.

“We fought terrorism long time before it became fashionable and it became a cliché in 9 /11 (September 11 2001). We fought it back when we were struggling for our independence in the late 1980’s. Why are these statements? Because we chose to be free and independent we didn’t allow ourselves to be servants like the regime in Ethiopia. So, this is the price that we are paying because we are free…we said no to neo-colonialism,” Abdu said." its a little too late for playing innocent

Dearest Brooks: I've been waiting for a thread to see your comment just to confirm that i indeed am waiting for a couple of months to see the light of the sun for more than few hours. Btw i appreciate your most recent post but i doubt the lunatic deserves anything time worthy as providing a source of evidence while he knows everything but chose to live in denial. Happy new year to you too.

Daniel: this fast huh? written by hateful Ethiopians? somehow i knew that you would say that but let me ask you this anyway; did you asshole even bothered to open the doc and pdf files and scroll down half way to authenticate them? Just because you lie your ass off doesn't mean everyone else does. Go ahead and read all the names and secondary sources within those two pieces. You can forget your sources, why would i burden myself with re-searching my sources? for you to call it "documented by hateful and ignorant Ethiopians"? Look, if you truly are searching for sources it doesn't take you much to find few and yes IMPARTIAL. Yes I don't like you and your likes, i despise you and most Eritreans i know are your clones but luckily i have lately come to befriended with some Eritreans who have some civility and no envy. Those are who I called brothers and sisters, again not you the subhuman!

I'm not seeing anything new in 'your' definition of judgment call. You care to try again? well if you do just keep in your damn mind that i told you that i never was in Eritrea when your so called atrocities occurred. I never saw pictures, authenticated documents, never saw news articles and most importantly i wasn't even born. I was 4+ when YOUR uncle meles and your other uncle isayas forced their way into Addis hence for me no tv news either, alright? But i was hammered about it later, through internet, blogs, radios...So there you go you stupid irritating bug, all that combined boils into calling my conscious to judge, you hear me? JUDGMENT CALL!!!! Do your crying eyes READ the words? So now go away from your keyboard and stop bothering me. You're trying your best to make me appear as some gullible moron who would believe anything he is told? Yea to some extent you maybe right, but unlike you i don't choose what or who to believe in rather what to make of what I've been told, shown or read. And whether you like it or not, the Bagalla, Arba Guugu, Asosa and Bodeno (As Brooks already put it)massacres are all facts not fictitious lies or exaggerated piece of crap, which nails your shabyan gov't into a terrorist supporting entity! You can find some of them in HRW publications. And your beloved Eritrea was exporting coffee!

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wepE

I don’t have to try to make you look like a moron. You are doing a great job of that all by yourself.

The point is to base your opinion on your research and sources, not to have an opinion on something and than researching for sources. If any of your claims were based on facts you would not have “re-research” your sources. I know the concept of basing your opinions on facts is foreign to you, but trust me, you will get used to it.

There is no envy towards Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Just sympathy and frustration when I hear about people starving with all the resources that Ethiopia has. When I read stories about young people being abused and killed trying to enter Israel or Egypt or where ever. I feel for them and their families because what they are going through is the same thing that my people are going through. The same thing I would be going through if I had not been lucky enough to be where I am.

You keep telling me how much you despise me and most Eritreans, but yet you are hoping that one day they will be your brothers and sisters again. Do you suffer from multiple personality disorder or skitsofrenia? Unlike you, I don’t hate you or the like of you. To me you are just another ignorant human being that has fallen victim to the hate that has infected him. Everything you say about Eritreans is based on nothing but hate. Things like truth, compassion,reasoning, understanding, and humanitarianism are foreign to you. If it wasn’t Eritreans it would be tigrays, if not tigrays it would be another ethnicity that you are directing all this hate to. Your hate and ignorance is not a product of your experiences or even perceptions. It is hate for the sake of hate. For that, I feel sorry for you. I hope that in the new year you rid yourself of this hate that has infected you. Not for sake of Eritreans as you will never do anything more than just bark on forums like this, but for your sake and those people around you.

I have nothing else to say. Time to go bring in the new year.



Brooks,

Thanks for the info. I will look at those sources.

Addis Zemen:

LOl, That's what it seems like but real growth is not by building 50 high rises in the capital city, where 80 million ppl live with starvation, children been sold away for rich whites for adoption, and high HIV rates, let me leave the truth for yourself.

You think Ethiopia is better than North Korea, they have the nuc and ethiopia got you the fool.

Let's be real out of 80 million people 10 million well to do, some 200,000 rich and 20-30 wealthy and the rest is nothing but piece of shit broke.

Happy New Year to All... Ethiopian brothers and sisters!!!!

He who lives in denial, daniboy that is, another shabia name for oneluv, Zx and such, has the audacity to lecture facts here. An erit who says contrary to what the world knows to be true and has taken action on, he who denies the haunger in eritrea by claiming self sefficiency calling others beggars while they feed their people and erits die of hunger... he the erit liar who denys the run to the Sudan, he the erit asswipe who comes with new madeup handle and get more confused as to what FACTS are the true moron of eritrea posts...

Comment from: Daniel [Visitor]
wepE
I don’t have to try to make you look like a moron. You are doing a great job of that all by yourself.

The point is to base your opinion on your research and sources, not to have an opinion on something and than researching for sources. If any of your claims were based on facts you would not have “re-research” your sources. I know the concept of basing your opinions on facts is foreign to you, but trust me, you will get used to it.

Only an Eritrean in the diaspora can come up with such crap. Create his own fact or try to confuse it. Dude, Eritrea is dead in the waters. Get used to it. You are a terrorist state. Get used to that too. Beterefe, live in the dream world you all have created for yourselves. Eritrea was never a country and will never be one, hey look on the bright side.., at least you will die knowing that.

Daniel

The harder you try to justify your reasoning, the dummmmmmmer you look.

WepE

Please take it easy on Daniel.

Daniel,
Just like Brook's, my comment is not intended to interfer with the ongoing discussion btn you and WepE, but only to add something regarding the coffee export. My suggestion to you Daniel is, not to waste your time searching and researching a website which will declear your Eritrea as one time coffee producer when it was never one. Further more, Ethiopian coffee is binding; I mean the hawk exporters had no choice but to sell it as it was-ethiopian. You remember that historic same currency-two country phenomena. Accordingly, you willn't find Eritrea labled as Exporterer either. Your inability to find such an evidence, however, isn't sufficient to change the reality. Eritrea was a major exporter of coffee. It is not a myth but a fact.
You have acknowledged that no evidence exists in the entire Eritrea regarding this. You seem to be a person with access to whatever record you want in a country where there is little or no transpiracy. So, why not get some of the records from the ethiopian national bank aswell with the names of the Eritrean coffee exporters with loans that were readily available to Eritreans and Eritreans only? That information will never be accessible to WepE or me. But, prehaps to you. If you can, check it out. I will guarantee you, It is there. You will see it for yourself. They are all Eritreans! With big loans and a license.
By the way, That money still remains to be re-paid.

Daniel

"I don’t have to try to make you look like a moron. You are doing a great job of that all by yourself." About being a gullible moron I've already admitted to being one, at least to some extent, but if you're looking for a schizophrenic moron why don't you take a good look in the mirror? First you insulted me like a maniac, i tried to be kind, you insisted so followed you there but you kept your way and all of a sudden your a calm, good hearted shrink and an annalist who knows how my brain works and can break my messages in pieces and call me schizophrenic? So who is that you're describing me or yourself?

As I'm not immune to the madness along with it so I consider myself lucky to never have gone through a great trauma as a child or adult for that matter so you see I don't have to direct any hate to anyone unless against some extremely hostile nation who violates the integrity of my country and attacks my beloved people. There are two but neither are called Eritrea. I've a year or two ago have had this same discussion with tribal freak who accused me of hating meles, my answer was, surprise, i don't so how on earth would i hate Eritreans and most disgustingly based on their ethnicity or region? Even if i did are you all Hammasiens, Tigres or Kunamas? Is that justifiable by any measure? Isn't that spitting on the faces of great individuals like Aman Andom and Zereay Deres? I've with my own eyes seen homeless Eritreans being spat at the face during the war for choosing Ethiopia, i know meles has shot them dead for escaping Eritrea during the secession chaos. This maybe alien to you but the place I came from, Shewa is of mixed ethnic groups, the most mixed part of Ethiopia, so hating any ethnic will end up hating myself, my cousins, my entire family, my friends, my neighbors, my class mates...Only your type is capable of justifying such a hate in a sober mind. I don't even hate you just despise you because of your nature of engagement, you make up your mind for something but also start a discussion, why? you already know you won't believe anything i say, you've decided that I've fed on weyanes lies and are reflecting on it. So again why?

If saying that we were colonized (blaming it on, for you, inseparable meanings of words) while you know we weren't and discrediting our dead ancestors for helping to oust an invader is not envy I don't know what is. No matter how civil you make it seem like, if you're not honest with yourself it will be highly noticeable! I said re-search, you know, searching for the sources again so you can see them for your self. I don't have to re-research the sources as I already have built my opinion based on them, you don't need 'em anyway as you define impartiality as weighing facts unequally so as to suite your most appealing opinions instead of neutrality without favoritism. Again I said most Eritreans I know are your clones, never most Eritreans. Even if i did you should ignore me on that as I've no reason to clump them up and call them your type. Eritreans became like you, because of the mass propaganda of shabiya and weyane put them through as add insult to injury of atrocities committed by Derg and your beloved Atse. Shabiya did also promise to bring peace and prosperity but look where you're, in the same damn standard you were two decades ago, which brings us to the one million dollar question; do ppl think and act exactly same as they did 20 years ago? I'm hoping not, time will tell!

Edartan: I hear you, thanks I'll.

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Displaced,

No I do not have access to whatever information I want in Eritrea. I would not believe government sources or institutions in either country for information on the other country. The reason for that is that neither one is considered credible when it comes to information on the other country for obvious reasons.

What I have researched is sources that provide export and production information on this product. Third party sources that keep statistical data on sales/exports by year, region and so on. These sources are neither Eritrean nor Ethiopian and as such are not influenced by either government.

Weather individual exporters were of Eritrean origin or Ethiopian origin would be very hard to determine for most people unless you know each and every one of those exporters personally. So how is that you can say with certainty that these exporters were Eritrean and furthermore that they used these proceeds for the betterment of Eritrea and not just for themselves living in Ethiopia?

Ethio-man,

I live back home 3 months of the year. I know for a fact what goes on in my country. I know this is going to kick of your new year in a disappointing manner, but nobody is starving in Eritrea. Yes there are people who do not have enough to eat; yes food security is an issue (as it is with almost every African country) but no starvation/famine.

My problem isn’t that Ethiopia has been begging for the last 30 years for the world to feed it. Not at all. My problem is that it has enough resources to feed itself and half of Africa, but chooses to “lease” these lands to foreign firms or let them sit idle, and then turn around and beg for food. Now if that is hard for you to understand that is your problem.

If you want to comment on the mandatory national service or government control in economic and social sectors that’s one thing, but as far as starvation and being exploited by foreigners, that’s all Ethiopia.

Now if makes you feel better to think that Eritrea is dead in the water, is a terrorist state, etc…go ahead, it won’t change the fact that sadly Ethiopia will continue to be addicted on foreign aid while its resources are being underused or even worst exploited by foreigners who do not care about the countries interests. But hey, what difference will it make to you, you will still be able to bark on forums like this with a full stomach.

wepE,

Happy new year wepE,
Minow Epakih,Take it easy!I could feel it the anger on your face brother,we know you enough wepe,that your not a hater person. We know you brother,that you always side with victimized peoples and that never discriminate them of who and which ethnic they belong to but that you always cared and defend them with righteous people regardless of which ethnicity they belong.In same thing,I knew that you don't hate Eritreans,but that Daniel or any other Eri-person i really suggest you whatever they said right now we should be ignored because of the following two reasons:

1- because of they're in the first WKs of UN sanction they are in frustration situations.They can't blame there leaders therfore they should blame us because of that upset they are not in good moods.
2-They can't be a normal at the moment,Eritreans who passed through of many atrocity and still lived on in those trauma to liberate Eritrea but again after all those fierce liberation wars Eritreans never enjoyed there independence and Yet,the people of Eritrean never missed the terror sounds of the gun battles.In those all years,Eritreans,still lived in the conditions of there rebel years or maybe worst,the war is still there,the Afworkis still there and army/rebels still there.So what's benefits of there independence,its simply a wasted of life's.They never relaxed and enjoyed
Instead,Shabiya continues there wars to all corner's and the whole nation still live in the hostile conditions of war zones.
Thus,people of Eritrea,I believed,they were fed up the miserable life conditions they lived in years but not decided yet of what direction to go for there futures.

Furthermore,Wepe,don't forget also,that more than half million Eritrean army(men/women)were normally live in the hell of border desert and live for almost two decades they dug undergrounds and lived in the trenches and there day/night they had been alert for eminent attack from Ethiopia.You don't know young fellow,how hell it's the conditions of war Zones living,no water,no enough food and proper toilet when solider is at front line,before he got killed he would hate his life and ready today.Guess,than when there baby's born in those fornt trench and at war zones.What kind of life is that WepE?Plus these sanctions by the UN,so please be Patience for any Eritrean! Let them open there mouth and breath since there's no one of Eritrean that could open his mouth and criticize freely to Issia Afwork,then let them Eritrean to breath and express there opinion here with us.

So since that Eritreans were in those difficulties and burdens in years and now,on top of those burden and hefty problems again,the UN sanctioned and implied to to comply the restrictions I could feel how much frustrations they ahve it and that how there insides burning but they can't say a word to Issia afwork and that's the real amazing one and odd!

Nevertheless,as all Ethiopians, we should be more tolerant for the Eritreans,especially the moments that they needed us like right now,they really need our help so we should show them our good hearts since that we'll remain always a neighbors and a brothers/sisters.

Also,keep in mind,that regardless of past history and the bitter wars that fought,we would be remain forever a neighborhoods so we should be good neighbors like those Europeans who fought bitterly in WW1&2 but later improved there relations and since then lived in peaceful until now they almost became a one country under the umbrella Flag of EU and using a one curacy of Euro curacy.

So,wepE,no matter of how long it takes,I am sure that one day the HOA, we become like Euro countries and live as federations of Horn of Africa.

Always,Treat nicely the people of the horn,especially the Eritreans,believe me they suffered under their dictator and they knew that very well.


Happy new year again.

Brooks 2010

Happy new year to you too,hey Brooks, have a nice Barjat & Tea instead of that Gaesho yellow drink.....Don't drink and drive for the wk end.Just sit and relaxed.

wepE

You are calling me out because I called you names when you the first one to go there. Is calling me a back stabber and foolish not calling me names. Is that they kind person in you?

Then you claim “I don't even hate you just despise you because of your nature of engagement”. If you despise me, than you hate me. You can not despise someone and not hate them.

You think that I am envious of Ethiopia because I stated the truth? You could not be more wrong. I am glad at least one African country was not colonized. You are just as wrong about me trying to discredit Ethiopian heroes. Speaking the truth and how history unfolded has nothing to do with discrediting anyone but with respecting the truth. During the liberation of Ethiopia, the British lead a large force that included not only Ethiopian but also troops from every corner of Africa that it has colonized. It also used its own artillery and troops. There were Nigerian, Ghanaian, South African, Kenyan, and many more foreign troops, but they were equipped and lead by the British army. If not for the British the Italians would not have been defeated. I am not telling you that all these nationalities came to liberate Ethiopia for the sake of Ethiopia, but because they were all ordered to by the European empires that they were colonized by. These European empires did this for their own interests as they were at war with Italy. Prior to the outbreak of WW2 when Italy was not a threat to them and invaded Ethiopia none of them lifted a finger even though Ethiopia was part of the league of nations and should have been afforded the same rights and protection as the other members. Those are facts that anyone can look up and verify.

Now about your claim that Eritrea was trying to prosper of Ethiopia, I would suggest that you take out the time and look into the very favorable trade agreement Ethiopia received to use Eritrean ports (yes, Eritrean ports). On top of the lowest rates anywhere in Africa, Ethiopia also was exempted from paying any customs or tariffs. The Ethiopian shipping line had an office in Assab and was allowed to use Ethiopian works exclusively, which it did. There were four schools provided by Eritrea for these workers to send their kids to and those schools were allowed to follow Ethiopian curriculum. The benefits of a close relationship that these two nations had up to 1998 went both ways.

Weather Shabia was to bring peace and prosperity to Eritreans was not the primary motive behind the struggle for independence for the common Eritrean (in fact, the struggle for independence started before there was shabia), the motive was to be free of foreign occupation. Of course like all other people in the world we want to live in peace and prosperity and of course like any other people we do not want to live under a dictator without the freedom of speech, elections, and movement. This we will one day overcome just like the dictatorship in Ethiopia one day will be overcome too.

Wadani,

I agree with most of what you have said and I am really saddened by what is going on in that part of Ethiopia and I hope the day will come soon when there is peace and prosperity in all of HOA.

Some of the wars that you mentioned were not preventable. Take the war with Yemen for example. Yemen was occupying Islands that Eritrea felt was within its territories. After two rounds of diplomatic talking failed Eritrea gave Yemen one month to vacate the disputed Island. After a month Eritrean troops dislodged Yemeni troops from the Island and Yemen agreed to binding arbitration. The arbitration gave some of the Islands to Yemen and some to Eritrea but the flashpoint island was awarded to Yemen. Eritrea accepted the decision and withdrew its forces. There was actually never a war with Sudan. There were bad relations and both sides were supporting the other nation’s rebels, but that was it. The wars with Ethiopia and Djibouti could have and should have been handled differently by all three countries but they had nothing to do with any borders what so ever and nobody with the exception of IA and MZ can say for sure what the triggering point was. Even though Eritrea did escalate the combat, there were a lot of small scale scrimmages between both nations from 1997 on. In my opinion however, Eritrea’s issuance of its own currency and the use of the port of Assab had a lot to do with it.

To answer your questions:

1.People have asked IA to step down. Most of the G15 (Eritrean assembly pending elections) did and they were all arrested or fled to avoid arrest.

2.IA has done a good job of making a lot of Eritreans believe that the western world is against Eritrea, and they the west have given him proof of that from the illegal annexation of Eritrea to the current sanction without a shred of evidence. The west has given credibility to IAs claim even if it is just an excuse to postpone implementing the constitution that was drafted in 1993.

3. IAs aid to the ONLF/OLF is not genuine to their cause. It’s just another proxy war that both IA and MZ have been involved with against each other since 1998. I don’t know if the majority of people from Ogaden consider themselves Ethiopian and thus want to be part of Ethiopia, or if they consider themselves not Ethiopians and want to be independent. But whatever their wishes, I hope they get that and can live in peace; be it as Ethiopians, Somalis, or Ogadens.

There is no doubt that IA loves his country and like all Eritreans is patriotic to a fault. There is also no doubt that he will not give up power and wants to control Eritrea and its people for good. He has been hardened by decades of war to a point where it is almost impossible for him to be a civilian leader. He will always be a soldier and will lead the country with that mentality.

The future relation of Eritrea and Ethiopia is all in the hands of Ethiopia. The reason I say that is because we (as Eritreans) respect Ethiopia as a sovereign nation and do not claim anything inside Ethiopia as ours. Ethiopians on the other hand still want to see Eritrea as a province of Ethiopia mostly for the ports that they feel their existence depends on. I believe that is the one pivotal factor in Eri-Ethio relations. Everything else is can be worked out if we had two leaders that were truly interested in mutually beneficial relationships.

Happy New Year and all the best to you and your family Wadani.

Hey Turusew! you were not also licking the ass of the Italians for 5 years (1935- 1941), whenever they want the Duches were also hanging and burning you to death in the steets of Finfine. How about that?

Wadani: Thank you for the mkr. You're right I usually side with people who find themselves at the receiving end of crimes. Wishing you a nice first day of the new year I here by promise to gather, try to be more understanding when talking to Eritreans and for this comment to be my last on this page. Again thank you for the wake up call!

Daniel: This will be my last post. Before you called me a crack-head I never attacked your person just your deduction. Before finding myself labeled as a crack-head and bone head who sniff on something I didn't call YOU backstabber, simply told you that many Eritreans are renowned backstabbers. I also said it's foolish to think so, doesn't make you a fool and if you don't wanna' stand corrected fine but I never called you a fool. You don't have to scrutinize every word but c'mon when you blame me for or try to correct me on something get it straight at least. I'm the one has limited vocabulary and possess terrible grammar skills, I don't have feel the need to tell you this. With regards to despising you being equal to hating you I'm not even going to go there. All I can tell you that love is a feeling, a complicated one, so is hate but it is pure but despising isn't even a feeling. One can stop looking down on another right away, besides it's because of your mind set I despise you, you change that or I become more like you, it disappears. But you can't say that about hate.

"I am glad at least one African country was not colonized" The point is that you unnecessarily used the word *colonized*, that was our main disagreement, that you used a provocative word with respect to the matter. Put yourself in my place and see for yourself how that sounds like? envious? yes? no? You made it appear like if it wasn't for the Britts we were done,burned but you and I know European states have done everything and anything possible to discredit black people since the begging of the 17th century. Through self-serving liers disguised as scholars, scientists, archaeologists, historians and many other cover professions they have been degrading black Africa, to the extent that we believed them. I'm painfully aware of that fact at all times which is why i can't swallow the Britts saved Ethiopia thing. I was under the impression that you're the type who is careful of on his selection of sources so if they have manged to hammer us all this time, why is it easy for you to believe in whatever lie they feed you? Because all the records and figures must have been written by them not by someone impartial like the Chinese or Brazil? Because they are too far away having no chance to witness? But then you don't have a choice other than to simply not have an opinion on that! You've no reason whatsoever to believe Europeans but you do, you've every reason to believe Africans (Ethioopians) but you don't even bother to mention their side of the story i.e. Patriots were fighting the invading aggressor till their last breath only to be hanged on mehal adebabay by the emperor so that those patriots won't spoil British bullshit and threaten his throne.

It's really sad, that our readiness to engage in a discussion has to involve personal attacks, I'm sorry on my behalf for insulting your person but you're not the first case, just so you know. The only Eritrean in this room I've had a heated up discussion with which didn't involve personal attacks calls himself Eritrean guest. I miss having discussion with people like him, it never is counterproductive talking to them. No matter what you think of me I wish you well. I owe my wise and always calm friend Wadani for that.

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Eriman,...

Sorry I didn't answer you on time,I was slepping the whole day after the hungover of new year's eve party.
Come on, it looks like you are a little bit hisitating to accept the reality. Why do you have to avoid the dams we built,the schools, the high ways and bridges the whole infrastructure being built in Ethiopia as we speak. You are telling me about the HIV rates,the poor and sick people we have and people leaving the country to seek opportunities somewhere else. Nobody in their right mind can deny that Ethiopia is one of the poorest nations in the world. That is my point, where at this time,when we need the right govt to lead us in the fight against poverty and hinderance woyane govt EPRDF is perfect choice.
As of eritreans concerned, we don't owe them anything to make them believe what ever we do in our country is right or wrong. Some of them on this blog,like "daniel" want to reason out things,I say to them, it is too late. You are already WUHA WIST YEGEBACH AYIT. No where to go."DEAD END"

wepE,

When it comes to Eri-Ethio issues emotions take over reasoning and people from both nations will disagree 9 times out of 10. In this case people just need to agree to disagree and move on. I will stand by what I believe and so will you and we can both agree to disagree and move on.



Wadani,

Everything I have expressed in my posts is not fuelled by anger or frustration at all. Rather it’s based on my perception, my research, and mine and my families experiences. Peace and prosperity to the HOA.



Zemen,

“Too late” for what? Are you under the illusion that we as Eritreans want something from you or Ethiopia? We are not asking for anything and don’t need your approval or blessing for anything. If you are under that illusion let me correct you: We don’t care about what you have to say! So you can take your dead end talk and shove it.

Daniel,
Have you heard the song that says "your heart will lead you home"?
The truth of the matter is that you are what you say you are.
All the coffee exporters were proud Eritreans. I am multi ethinic, Eritrean being one of them. I have never identified myself as Eritrean so I am not an Eritrean. In fairness to all of us, nobody deserves to be called Ethiopian or Eritrean, if they choose not to care about it.
As to your next question, As long as you are spending your money, it does not matter how you are spending it. What matters is where you are spending it. It went straight to Eritrean GDP. That is what is called building Eritrea. One last point, the discussion that I had with you is the first time and ONLY time that I ever said a word about Eritrea or even mention its name in this site. I never ever participated in any form or shape if it had anything to do with Eritrea or even shabia but I guess 2010 is going to be different.