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12/31/09

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Categories: Ethiopia, Agriculture

Ethiopian Farms Lure Investor Funds as Workers Live in Poverty

Omeud Obank, a security guard, center, poses while at a palm oil plantation owned by Karuturi Global Ltd., in Elliah, Ethiopia, on Oct. 28, 2009. Photographer: Jason Mclure/Bloomberg

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

  • Indian company Karuturi Global Ltd., is leasing 300,000 hectares (741,000 acres) of land, an area larger than Luxembourg in Gambela.
  • The land is FREE for the first six years and after that, it will pay 15 birr (U.S. $1.18) per hectare per year for the next 84 years [or until the end of Woyane regime, which ever comes first]
  • Ethiopian workers get less than the World Bank’s $1.25-per-day poverty threshold
  • company expects to earn more than $100 million by 2013
  • Ethiopian government plans to allot 3 million hectares, or about 4 percent of its arable land, to foreign investors over the next three years.
  • Ethiopians are being exploited in their own country by foreigners
  • Ethiopians in the region were not consulted when their land was taken over by foreigners

Ethiopian Farms Lure Investor Funds as Workers Live in Poverty

Dec. 31 (Bloomberg)
-- Until last year, people in the Ethiopian settlement of Elliah earned a living by farming their land and fishing. Now, they are employees.

Dozens of women and children pack dirt into bags for palm seedlings along the banks of the Baro River, seedlings whose oil will be exported to India and China. They work for Bangalore- based Karuturi Global Ltd., which is leasing 300,000 hectares (741,000 acres) of local land, an area larger than Luxembourg.

The jobs pay less than the World Bank’s $1.25-per-day poverty threshold, even as the project has the potential to enrich international investors with annual earnings that the company expects to exceed $100 million by 2013.

“These Indians do not have any humanity,”
“Just because we are poor it doesn’t make us less human.”

Mr. Obank, Ethiopian worker of Karuturi



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130 comments

Comment from: messay [Visitor]
$1.25-per-day thats sad.be strong ma ppl dont give up
12/31/09 @ 01:36
Comment from: Thomas H [Visitor]
Hi All,
1.The company will create up to 20,000 jobs.They are creating jobs where there were none.
2.It has plans to build a hospital, a cinema, a school and a day-care center in the settlement.
3. After six years,the company is going to pay 4,500,000.00 Birr/year for land rent fees.
4.The government is going to get revenue from corporate income taxes(up to 40%).
6.The company will transfer modern farming technology to Ethiopia.So, the local farmers will learn modern farming technology with out going to school and paying tuition fees.
5. Finally to those neftegnas who cry day in day out,this land has never been used in the past 3000 years.It was just sitting idle for 3000 years.

12/31/09 @ 01:56
Comment from: eselem [Visitor]

This dictator is a loco polo. He will do anything for money to embezzle it. Towards money he is like a rabid dog. He came to power not to govern the people of Ethiopia democratically.He came to power to destroy the country and to loot.
12/31/09 @ 01:57
Comment from: antonio [Visitor]
its clear the americans are not happy seeing the indians and chinesse are working with african countries...what a white man up to is just hit and run...get the resource and run.....so this kind of settlement pissed them off..sorry western countries...its about that time for afrca to determine its own destiny...stop crying crocodile tears for us we know what is good and bad......ethiopia has a land and history of 3000 years.....some 3000years old virgin fertile soil...its up to us to do what we like...
12/31/09 @ 02:14
Comment from: antonio [Visitor]
"desperate for cash ethiopian government is selling ..." bloomberg how about "desperate for cash california governor is in china to borrow,,,,,," which one sounds real bad...heheheheh..i leave the answer to humans with conscious...happy new year and peace to the world!
12/31/09 @ 02:19
Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]
The jobs pay less than the World Bank’s $1.25-per-day poverty threshold, even as the project has the potential to enrich international investors with annual earnings that the company expects to exceed $100 million by 2013.
......

Under the agreement with Ethiopia’s government, Karuturi pays no rent for the land for the first six years. After that, it will pay 15 birr (U.S. $1.18) per hectare per year for the next 84 years.

Land of similar quality in Malaysia and Indonesia would cost about $350 per hectare per year, and tracts of that size aren’t available in Karuturi Global’s native India, Karuturi said.

....

Workers in Elliah say they weren’t consulted on the deal to lease land around the village, and that not much of the money is trickling down.

....

The project will give the government revenue from corporate income taxes and from future leases, as well as from job creation, said Omod Obang Olom, president of Ethiopia’s Gambella region and an ally of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi’s ruling party.

Simply Outrageous! Only time will tell whether Ethiopians will allow the pillaging of their country by mercenaries and foreigners for 84 years! The regime in Ethiopia is unelected therefore illegitimate to do business with foreigners especially in the area of leasing and selling natural resource such as the arable lands in Gambela and else where in the country. Ethiopia's one hectare of land(Be it in Afar, Ogaden, Benishangul..), which has been protected by our blood up till treasonous woyane's took over power by force and started selling it for a cent, is definitely worthy of more than 1.18 dollar a year, and there is no way we will allow foreigners to collect billions of dollar while we suffer from chronic food shortage. No amount of job creation that pays only 1 dollar a day or corporate tax that amounts less than half of the profit will stop Ethiopians from ousting the cancerous regime on power first and second the foreign looters from our land. If i were any corporate executive that is "investing" in Ethiopia, i would take a serious note concerning the fact that any agreement with the treasonous regime on power is considered null and void by the vast majority of Ethiopians. Therefore, the leasing period will expire whenever the regime is toppled from power, and that can happen not 84 years from now but anytime in the coming decade. It could be a year from now.


12/31/09 @ 02:23
Comment from: Ethiopian [Visitor]
Weyanes sell every governmental organization by the name privatization since they seize power. Every thing is for sell by Weyanes .You “Gangesters” and “Dureyes" where do you take all the money.
12/31/09 @ 02:30
Comment from: hailu [Visitor]
good job eprdf
12/31/09 @ 02:40
Comment from: Lij [Visitor]
Thomas H.

The whole world would have been in a more suitable state had all the empty words and promises been fulfilled by these multinationals. What is happening is pure injustice and sooner or later it will blow up.
12/31/09 @ 02:45
Comment from: Cobra. [Visitor]
Something not quite wright.

Cobra.
12/31/09 @ 03:19
Comment from: Positive Thinker [Visitor]
To so called Free and the like: what happened to reading an article in full. Didn’t your parent teach you to read the entire article before you start offering your simple mind comments? I hate to tell you there is more to the article than what quoted in your stupid remark. Here are a couple of paragraph from the same article you are referring to: The company will create up to 20,000 jobs and has plans to build a hospital, a cinema, a school and a day-care center in the settlement. The company is creating jobs where there were none BEFORE. “The project may help cover part of the $44 billion a year that the UN Food and Agriculture Organization says must be invested in agriculture in poor nations to halve the number of the world’s hungry people by 2015”. I don’t know what to say except people like you make me vomit and hate to be habesha/African with you in it. Unfortunately, that is what a place of birth does to you.
For my poor farmers/workers, if you want to combat inequitable pay do the same as the workers in developed countries did learn the trade quickly, organize and demand for equitable pay. ORGANIZE …. ORGANIZE BABY!!! That is the solution for any injustice at work place. My fellow concerned Ethiopians who care about these poor farmers please don’t give the morons like FREE a chance to destroy there and there kids’ future.

God help us from people like you!!!!

12/31/09 @ 03:27
Comment from: QASSIM [Visitor]
Thomas H
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FORM, DONT GET ME WRONG HERE.HOW EVER, BARE IN MIND, THIS IS HOW A WAR STARTES. WHENE THE A CENTERAL GOVERNMENT TAKES ADVANTAGES OF POOR LOCALS.
SECOND, YOU STATED THE COMPANY HAS PLANS TO DO GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU AND I KNOW THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ETHIOPIANS ARE ARE VERY GOOD AT PLANNING BUT WE HARDLY EXECUTE ANY OF IT. I'LL GIVE YOU MY WORDS 10 YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL LOOK BACK AND REALIZE WHAT HAS HAPPEN IS WRONG BUT, AS USUAL, WE WAKE UP TOOL LATE.


12/31/09 @ 03:30
Comment from: Koreconch [Visitor]
ለዚህ ሁሉ ያበቁን የዉጮች ሳይሆኑ የኛወቹ መሆናቸዉን
ተገንዝበዋል????????? ልብ ይበሉ:no:
12/31/09 @ 03:36
Comment from: Moti [Visitor]
Thomas H.,


You are without doubt a shameless Woyane thug who is paid to propagate false information.

You can not convince a single independent minded Ethiopians who are robbed of their land and liberty.

Do you think Ethiopians care when Woyane terrorist regime get millions of money in return of selling their land???

Do you think those Ethiopians who have lost their own land care for being employment as laborers???

You f$#k’n backward primate with a minuscule brain!
12/31/09 @ 03:58
Comment from: Dereje [Visitor]
Is this Asmarino.com?

Bacteria Eritrianica is all over this website.

The money comes from EXPORT TAXES!!!

Ethiopia earned over $100 Million for cut flowers this past year, even in bad wrold economy. Crop exports will earn much more $$$.

Class dismissed, children!
12/31/09 @ 04:00
Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
If this is the regimes answer to increasing agricultural activity, by benefiting outsiders at the expense of Ethiopians, then of certainty a governmment that does not serve its citizens will crumble easily. All these last minute deals of the regime will end up an illusive dream, for it is the Ethiopian farmer which must reap the greatest reward for their individual labour and toil.
Haile Selassie entitled every Ethiopian family to 1 gasha of freehold land to be past down from generation to generation in order to increase their standard of living. Any governmment or enterprise that does not recognize Ethiopians land rights are violating Ethiopia's human rights. We will continue to teach Our beloved Ethiopians their rights to their land-holdings which the regime of secession trys to fool otherwise with their tribal divisive plan.
"Our forefathers had fought to preserve the independence of Our country so that we may be able to exploit its rich resources, thereby enriching ourselves but not so that it may lay barren as to exite the envy of others and invite again the usurper. Therefore, in order to escape from such a catastrophe which become a lazy leader and lazy followers, it is Our duty to teach Our people to labour unceasingly for the development of our country and to struggle for the attainment of a decent standard of living. For there is no need of education to the wise nor doctors for the healthy." Negus Haile Selassie
"...The fruits of the farmer's labour must be enjoyed by him whose toil has produced the crop...Without agricultural expansion, industrial growth is impossible.","The longevity and tenacity of a building can be judged by its foundation. As you are the first seed-stock, the good results you would show will serve as example to those who would follow your foot-path." HIM Negus Haile Selassie, Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy!, Long Live the Kebra Negast!, Fire burn down the witchcraft star of ethnic federalism, Rise with the Lion of Judah!, Gasha for Ethiopians!, Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
12/31/09 @ 04:31
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor] Email
“These Indians do not have any humanity,”

I totally agree with that staement, Mr. Obank should be a very smart man to notice that so early, I have seen Indians in East Africa and it is true they have no any humanity. It is unfortunate to work for Indians. On the final analysis the Ethiopian government will find it there is nothing to get out of an Indian investment.

Indians have been exploiting Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania now they are in Ethiopia, that is a bad sign. I wish no Indian inters Ethiopian Economy.

They will also bring a high level of corruption in the country, one can say there is no law in Kenya and it is because of Indians.
12/31/09 @ 04:32
Comment from: cheer up [Visitor]
jealousy is killing you guys, don't let it affect you badly for there is nothing you can do about it.
12/31/09 @ 04:48
Comment from: Tafesse [Visitor]
Thomas has done a good job in giving relevant and factual information. Thank you, Thomas. The only thing that never ceases to puzzle me is, that people always mention this silly story of 3000 years. How come it is not 10,000 years? Was the world created by King Solomon and by his illegitimate son Menelik, never mind Darwin, if at all fertilization ever took place?
These lands have never, ever been utilized and it is time to start work and to silence the neftegnas, read, A......s.
12/31/09 @ 04:56
Comment from: Tamrat Tamrat [Visitor]
This can not happen in tigray. Do tigray need the money offcourse. Where do they get the money? Sale everything and bring the money home policy. Now you know why tigrians loves meles. :oops::oops::oops:

And this is an ideal project for Egypt, Shabia or any historical enemies of Ethiopia. Just smuggel weapon to these people who are salve in their ownland. Can you oppose this in Ethioipa. No. Can you mention this unfair treatment of tigray and non tigray then you end up in prison by accusation of ethnic clenzing. This problem must be solved only by tigrians. and i dont want any shitten shabia to add or give any posetive compliments towards my suggestion. I do my best to stop tplf's policy harm on Ethiopians. But if it comes to shabian i stop every thing and ready to strike shbians.
12/31/09 @ 05:25
Comment from: ambo [Visitor]

TALK WITH KNOWLEDGE,
NOT WITH AROGANSE
THOMAS YOU GET IT RIGHT!!!
LET ALLOW THOSE ALL THE TIME TALK WITH NON ON THEIR HEAD, BUT HATRED ARE SICK AND ILLTERAT OR DARK MINDED PEOPLE
Hi All,
1.The company will create up to 20,000 jobs.They are creating jobs where there were none.
2.It has plans to build a hospital, a cinema, a school and a day-care center in the settlement.
3. After six years,the company is going to pay 4,500,000.00 Birr/year for land rent fees.
4.The government is going to get revenue from corporate income taxes(up to 40%).
6.The company will transfer modern farming technology to Ethiopia.So, the local farmers will learn modern farming technology with out going to school and paying tuition fees.
5. Finally to those neftegnas who cry day in day out,this land has never been used in the past 3000 years.It was just sitting idle for 3000 years.


Permalink 12/31/09 @ 01:56
I am solely res
12/31/09 @ 05:36
Comment from: Aggamew [Visitor]
:D:D. Is there any stony LAND to be sold in Tigray? There is no doubt MelASS will start exporting the skinny Agazi's from Tigray. There is nothing to sell or export from the land of dedebit:D
12/31/09 @ 05:42
Comment from: anonymous [Visitor]
መሌ አጂሪት ሰዉንም መሬቱንም ጨርሳ ሽጣ ላሽ ልትል ነው መሰለኝ። አይመስላችሁም ጎበዝ????????????;D
12/31/09 @ 05:51
Comment from: anonymous [Visitor]
እንግድህ ፅናቱን ይስጠን እንጂ ሌላ ምን ይባላል:|
12/31/09 @ 05:54
Comment from: Mebrak [Visitor]
It is really very encouraging step.To overcome in Ethiopia or in Africa as whole extensive farming is only possible way.
West Journalist and confused diaspora oppose every positive development in Ethiopia.
12/31/09 @ 06:22
Comment from: Zeraf [Visitor]
Diaspora the so called ethiopians polticians, if you are interested to invest for your bural ground you will be offered free land don't wary.
12/31/09 @ 06:42
Comment from: chala [Visitor]
What's the minimum wage in Ethiopia? I guss it's up to the government now to raise the minimum wage because i belive right not isn't it like a $1 a day or something...
12/31/09 @ 07:20
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yedenekal [Visitor]
The moment Meles is ousted from power either by political maneuvering or by force - all his decrees will be reversed - So what is the point for this immature piece of shit of Free dude to hyperventilate to describe his anger.
The only thing that the opposition has to do is to provide a very suitable opponent to challenge Meles in may of 2010. If ever the opposition win then "Land leasing to foreigners" etc will be automatically reversed 100% by the new administration

The point of these amara people is for centuries their forefathers used to own these lands in every corner of Ethiopia and they never use it to its potential but the moment a more advanced foreign companies lease these land to produce whatever harvest they want and at the same time providing jobs to the locals - BUT here we go again, the same alkasha amaras cry wolves again. We the rest are wondering why was it OK for your great grand fathers and your other relatives to own those land and talk about it "I own 40 Gasha" in this area or that area but now if other people lease it to provide job and other opportunities for the local you are turning green with envy?
So get over it - there is nothing you can do about it for the time being so take your delapidated "Masinko and Kirar" and sing the blues while Ethiopia is progressing toward modernity
12/31/09 @ 07:20
Comment from: berero [Visitor]
Thomas H,

You stupid federal popo !!! What kind of analysis is that? Since there were no jobs before could be a justification for exploitation? Dingay Ras!!!
12/31/09 @ 08:12
Comment from: x ye kera lig [Visitor]
woyane should go back to dedebit.
12/31/09 @ 08:18
Comment from: Derese [Visitor]
The locals have the right to burn the farm anytime they wish because it is their land.The woyane Tigreans have the right to sell Tigre land not other peoples land.A backward ,inferiors (woyanes) will sell their mothers and daughters as long as they get paid.But this contract will be null and void as soon as Tplf is destroyed. Let as unite to that end.
12/31/09 @ 10:35
Comment from: Wild Weyane [Visitor]
To Thomas and the likes!

Selling a land is not a profit at all. It's not to argue with you/weyane,as you have no moral or dignity as a human being. It's only weyanes who will be benefited from selling our land and people to Indians and arabs. Because arabs and Indians are weyanes business partners and help in looting the resource which doesn't blong to them.
Mark my words, WEYANE; you will be expelled from our country with Indians and arabs, leaving all the money you looted your life time.
You are multiplying your enemies everyday!
You and your generation will go back to collecting dust and dying empty stomach your forfathers are used to!!!!!!!!!!!
12/31/09 @ 10:38
Comment from: Milkias [Visitor]
Thomas and Anotonio above. We are talking about land which is being used by the local population. There is no veriin land in Ethiopia.

You TPLF guys would sell your mother to her rapist if you get some money. How despicable you are. Learn a few points from the follwoing article. and believe me we will get out land back by hook or crook and this is the death sentence on TPLF

Full Circle: Back to Land to the Tiller Implications of the Land Grab in Ethiopia
12/31/09 @ 10:43
Comment from: Baba Selama [Visitor]
Leasing lands must be stopped effective immediately because it takes the farmers to the life of landloard Vs peasant (King Menilik – Haileselassa regime). Many lands leased by investors in Oromia and southern Ethiopian zones; however, in Amhara and Tigray zones no land was leased by investors (exploiters).
12/31/09 @ 11:13
Comment from: Ment4you [Visitor]
Thomas H.

So now that you are the expert on the history of land in Ethiopia and the Neftegna way of doing business why don't you educate us?

I am really existed about this one!!!

But then again realistically I should only expect your useless ethnic based gibberish, moron!
12/31/09 @ 11:21
Comment from: Nahom [Visitor]
For all specially for those of you who lived the life of majority of Ethiopian farmers-I am one of those:

We all know Melese and woyane are evil. However there are two sides of everyting. We must able to see both sides. Wheather we accept or not land renting is on and will never stop. Melese must be give a chance to see if this projects work. I am hopping something is better than nothing. The virgin land in Gambella for was idle for the last million years. So let us use it. Habashas are counting 3000 years of false ethiopian history which is actualy false and useless. Rather than counting the resources we have let us make use of it and save the lives which are in the matter of death and life. For those of you seating in USA or europe, you just left the country to fill your hod and you will be back when we start producing enough.
12/31/09 @ 11:29
Comment from: Jegna [Visitor]
Thomas H [Visitor]

Ante gematam wosha! These are fucking Ethiopian people you are talking about not fucking slaves. Are you kidding ante neftam aheya? It is better to let these people use the land the way they have been then turn them into slaves. The people themselves are telling you they are being treated worst then animals and you side with an Indian company. Your name is not Ethiopian and neither are you.

You think we are stupid or something? The government is going to get paid and the companies will get paid but the people will not. This not job creation this is slavery you imbecile. By the way this is what they think of us:

"We have to be very, very cognizant of the fact that we are dealing with people who are easily exploitable,”

And for your information YOU are the new neftegnas 2.0 the new half breed of snake and rat that will sell his own mother for a few bucks and call it development. I will remember all your hateful words in the future that way I will have no remorse when the revolution starts and we cover this land with your blood rendering all these bullshit agreements null and void.

12/31/09 @ 11:33
Comment from: ene [Visitor]
stop fucking defending this deal.
Do not pretend as if you consulted the locals in regards to what they want.
They are fucking telling you that this is a bad deal ... Listen! This will backfire... Shame on our government.
12/31/09 @ 11:43
Comment from: Noname4me [Visitor]
ፊታውራሪ I agree with you 100%.

Woyane is selling everything in Ethiopia. They are like Mafia.
If the price is good or bad sale it.

1: They sold our women for the Arab world as a maid and a prostitute.
3: They sold our kids for a rich white people.
4: They sold our land for anyone with money.

What is left is the men me and you. ፊታውራሪ I have bad news
for you. Some Woyane agents are seen in San Francisco
mainly around Castro Street. I don’t why, Can someone
in SF tell me what is in Castro street? I don’t like what
is coming next.


12/31/09 @ 12:00
Comment from: omo [Visitor]
Before the law, a person who collaborates with a thief (a collaborationist) is equally responsible for the theft. If MZ auctions Ethiopian land to the lowest bidder, because today he has the power to do it and he draws a personal gain out of it, the collaborators should be certain that they would face in the future the court of justice, where both the judge and the jury, will be nobody else but the Ethiopian people. MZ will not be there tomorrow to protect them from the wrath of the people, which could be as fierce as a hurricane, destroying everything in its path. Ethiopians are a proud people and do not accept to be humiliated and mistreated in their own country. Italians could not do it, and today Indians, Chinese, Arabs etc will not be able to do it, even under this unpatriotic regime.

Do not misunderstand me, because I am not sending any messages. However, let me tell you what I know. I happen to be living in a country with many illegal immigrants. These unfortunate people do all the dirty and backbreaking jobs, not accepted by the indigenous population. In this case, they were working in a large fruit farm. After a month’s hard work, almost twelve ours a day, on the payday, the owner, that beast, called the police and betrayed their status; and you can imagine what followed. After sometime, the owner had to face the consequences of his inhuman actions. One morning when he went to his farm, to his horror, he found all his trees, thousands of them, cut down and lying on the ground; trees that were decades old and were at the peak of their production. The underdogs became the vigilantes.

The companies who are grabbing illegally Ethiopian arable lands, for a price almost next to nothing, should be wise enough to understand the future consequences of the present illegal agreements under this dictatorial regime. The present agreements do not respect their livelihood and these agro businesses should try to make a long lasting agreement with the people, by respecting their rights, if they really want to have a healthy business in Ethiopia. They should also expect revision of the agreements in the future, when a patriotic, democratic and inclusive government holds power in the country.
12/31/09 @ 12:22
Comment from: GANDI [Visitor]
MONKIES SHOULD AND WILL BE TREATED LIKE MONKIES.
12/31/09 @ 12:35
Comment from: GEBRE [Visitor]
CASTRO IS A STREET IN SAN FRANCISCO WHERE MEN LIVE LIKE WOMEN.THEY PERFORM EVERYTHING WOMEN DO. IT IS A MAIN ATTRACTION FOR A LOT OF WEYANE WAR VICTIMS TO RECOVER FROM THEIR WOUNDS IN A TO-P NOTCH MEDICAL CARE BY JOINING THE CASTRO CULTURE.
12/31/09 @ 12:39
Comment from: observer [Visitor]
Thomas H, you have to understand that our people (most of them) are not educated people. i am not saying ena kelem neye or i am better. just speaking reality. altemarnem, so what you have mentioned goes above there head. some of us in the u.s drink coffee all day, drive taxi and chew chat and night time (semerek) we become cyber tigers. boo setelachew enda beg yerotalu tails between the leg. Transfer of technology know how is priceless but a chat dedeb aygebow. but i have said this before and i will say this again. there is a storm growing in the U.S with young ethiopians who are tired of being made fun growing up. some of the jokes i have hurd since 5th grade here in the u.s is " what do ethiopian resturants serve?" empty plate with flys around. second one. what is in a box of match? ethiopians packed in a box trying to escape to the U.S. benathe wondeme this is abusment by our black brothers in America. so we young ethiopians are tired of this and have mobilized to change our country image and destroy the old timers. we have the resources ( menem hone shaten you know what i mean) holding down office job, educating ourselfs..etc forming one major group..etc. so with in 5-10 years from now when we are in our 30's or mid 30's we will let the storm out and boy i am excited to see our unity and plan of action. we ask for prayer form our ethiopian ppl. we don't need any help btw we have all. but udj, ginbot 7, olf, onlf..etc they will have nothing on us i tell you.
12/31/09 @ 12:52
Comment from: Thee X [Visitor]
Sell our sisters for stinky Arabs ,sell our kids for western riches,sell our land ,sell our liberty our unity sell any thing you can.and kill our kids put them in jail but remember this what ever your plan is it is going to backfire and burn you so bad until you are going to regret .for now take every thing from our poor ppl and build you tigraye empire but we are going to buldoze it down for you .all Ethiopians and ertrians must unit aginst our common enemy TPLF .those beggers must go .they are a paresiet who get in your body suck your blood to fatin them self I hate tigraye you don't have to be educated to have commonsense and you don't have to destroy others life to have better life for you self lier bi ......s where is our culture loving and carieng for each ye dedebit dedeb>:XX
12/31/09 @ 13:06
Comment from: 2 z red herring [Visitor]
It's very interesting to see the meles kids pretending to be experts in every thing.
But they couldn't feel the stink this so called investment created, which is not far away from their noses. Check the following:

“These Indians do not have any humanity,”
“Just because we are poor it doesn’t make us less human.”
Mr. Obank, Ethiopian worker of Karuturi
12/31/09 @ 13:41
Comment from: Henok [Visitor]
EHE WHOLE PICTURE IS NOT AN ETHIOPIAN.ADMIN ABO TEW FABRICATE ATADRIG
12/31/09 @ 13:46
Comment from: NoStRaDaMuS [Visitor]
Moti [Visitor]

"Thomas H. You can not convince a single independent minded Ethiopians who are robbed of their land and liberty."

I belive he did convinced you otherwise it was not worthy of replying with such agitation from you and others like you.

And to THOMAS H, you blocked them with facts befor they filled it with their hate poisened comments. Good job.
12/31/09 @ 14:03
Comment from: Mastewal [Visitor]
Jegna,

I don’t know who the hell you are but your mouth is so cheap so dirty. Your dirty mouth could put you in trouble. I never think you are a threat at all to me because I know your kind of people talks so cheap but zero some of action. In contrary, some people could take your dirty mouth as a real threat and they might take action before you do any damage. My advice to you is try not be emotion driven and stop talking things you can not do such as the over statement you said in your blog “we cover this land with your blood” as well as this cheap vocabulary “Ante gematam wosha, ante neftam aheya”
12/31/09 @ 14:15
Comment from: Sami1 [Visitor]
Thomas H was trying to explain what we could get other than the article says. What he is not acknowleging is this government is not accountable government and we do not have free speech for things to be in the open. We are blineded there could have been a deal if Woyane leaves for us to resend the contract we have to pay more than the land worth. I do not know why we Ethiopians become so complacent and usless lately. It is time for elected government to go in so that they will be held accountable and we need freedom of speech rather than a government who closes news agency that does not support the government.

It is time for Ethiopians to rise and demand an elected and accountable government!

This deal could be fine, but how could we verify and what is hidden?

12/31/09 @ 14:22
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Meles and Sebhat looted Tigrayan bones in 1984 during the great famine even the Italian invaders, Egypt, Turkey, Amara and Derg never did what the two Meles and Sebhat had done to Tigray people. Per Gebre Medhin Araya ex TPLF treasury during the struggle report, Meles and Sebhat contacted the British Band aid to give the money they raised for Ethiopian starved people in 1984 and Meles and Sebhat traveled to Europe and received $100 million dollars and divided between the two and put them away in their personal accounts, All the food donated from all over the world came through Sudan reloaded by ship and sold to Arab countries merchants and the money was divided between Meles, Sebhat, Seyoum Mesfin, Arkebe, Berhane G/Kirstos, Yemane Jamaica. They sold some of the big trucks donated from Europe and USA were sold in Sudan and deposited in their personal accounts. Some of the food managed to go to Tigray were stored at Tekeze basin and due to heavy rain most of them were rotten and ordered by Meles and Sebhat to be dumped in to Tekeze River immediately while Tigrayans were dying like Meskerem flies everywhere. The only high ranking person Seye Abraha who was complained why the donated food never reached to the intended people and ended up wasted but no one listened even there was a rumor to be assassinated for his questioning others.

My point is if Meles and Sebhat can loot from dying people of Tigray in 1984, why anyone would be shocked if they sold Ethiopian kids to the rest of the world in the name of adoptions, free land to anyone who can put dollars under the table for Meles and Sebhat and sold trees from Wollo to Saudi Arabia lumber Companies???

Those two Meles and Sebhat would do anything to harm the country any way they can if they were given more time to do so. Djibouti president has free fertile lands in Ethiopia while Djibouti is charging a billion dollars a year for port fees. Sudan got any land she wants from Ethiopia even the British could manage to get Ethiopian lands in the 18th century when they were ruling Sudan.

Honestly the number one enemies of Ethiopia right now are Hailu Shewl and Ledetu Ayele by standing alone to give another opportunity Meles and Sebhat to damage the country further instead of joining with MEDREK and challenge Meles to oust him from power. The Italians did not inflict what Meles had done to the country. Meles and Sebhat are a real enemy of all people of Ethiopia.

To all Tigrayans who are barking on this website, open your eyes and check what is going on Tigray state by those evil inhumane two families and it is time for you to speak up the truth nothing but the truth for your people of Tigray. All EFFORT money is being converted to dollars and deposited in Europe and China banks in their personal accounts. That is why Meles insisted to put his wife to head EFFORT despite her uneducated, unqualified and prior failure when she was the CEO of Mega Company background. There is nothing Meles and Sebhat have done for the Tigray people except we became the servant and CHIN GERED of the two MAFIA families for the last 35 years. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH lets get ride of them for the sake of all Ethiopians. Tigray will be flourish and developed by true nationalist Tigrayans with out Meles and Sebhat at the helm of Woyane. Let Woyane be headed by Tegaru Woyenti, not SERQTI TEGARU ATSMI. Shame on to Meles and Sebhat!!!
12/31/09 @ 15:06
Comment from: Lula [Visitor]
My wish for my beloved countery Ethiopia2010 is , all tigrains will die with Meles & join there Ertrains BOSS, they belong there they kill my people , they stole our money,they sold our childern , sold our land what left.
Death for Meles & his family
Death For all Tigray

This is my NEW YEAR resolation.
12/31/09 @ 15:15
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
Thomas H,

You sound like you know the deal between the Weyane and the Indian company. How about posting the real document of the agreements and contracts that you pointed as a list for us to look at? Of course, the documents and contracts legitimacy will be checked.

Why are Ethiopian farmers are regarded as weak to grow their own food? Why is Weyane not providing the farm technology they need and grow food. Ethiopian farmers are very much capable of providing that and getting educated about the latest farming method. Instead, Weyane decided to enslave the farmers bringing back not only the feudalism but outside colonialism. Weyane does not want the growth and self-sufficiency of the farmers because Weyane by leasing and enslaving the farmers willl get tons of money not for Ethiopia but for Weyane and EFFORT and some Tigray part. Not a penny will go to Ethiopia and its development. We know the fact. Weyane decided now to enslave our people. How racist is that also to take land from the South and West, why not Amara and Tigray land?

Of course, the West is on the rest of Ethopians on this because the land was rather given to Arabs, Indians and Asians and not to the West. Does this mean it is good? Who knows. Both the West and any outsiders could be the same side of the coin, although years of Western exploitation is evidence enough from the past.

Noname4me,

Please include in your list what else Weyane has sold: The gold, crowns, crosses and crafts and treasures of Ethiopia that is being sold today in Europe and U.S for minimal amount.

I thought when Tigrayans took over Ethiopia at first I was happy becaus it seemed like they are very religious and peaceful and will take Ethiopia to the right direction. Boy, was I wrong! They are the ones selling the church arts and crafts in the Western region. What a shame, that is all I can say. Where is the out rage from Tigrayans about so far what is happening? It will back fire on them one day the sooner they take out TPLF the better.
12/31/09 @ 15:37
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
Halafi Mengedi,

Although it is about time for your condemning your fellow Tigrayans which probably took many years to admit, two people only cannot do this much harm. Tigrayans need to come out in support of the rest of Ethiopians rather than thinking only for themselves. Listen, no one can stay in power indefinitely and when that happens, the accomplice will also go down the drain. That is why being tribalists, greedy is not going to benefit Tigrayans. So what you should be condemning is the whole TPLF not just Meles and Sebhatu. If Meles replaces Bereket or Syoum, will you still be happy? That is what you sound like saying. TPLF must be destroyed to save Ethiopians and Tigrayans. The more TPLF is doing the damage, the more Tigrayans are implicated. Whether you like it or not, TPLF injected ethnicity issue in a negative way to divide people so that they can divide and rule. It is time, you guys really form your own committee and really rethink what TPLF is doing and do something about it. After all, TPLF has surrounded itself with Tigrayans, to protect itself, apparently that should tell you that there are many, many Tigrayans that stand for TPLF therefore that stand for Meles and Sebhatu. You cannot pick and choose who you resent. I am saying this if you truly believe in safe, democratic Ethiopia. I am also curious what changed your mind about Meles and Sebhatu. Was it because they betrayed you? Betrayed Ethiopia as a whole? Or do you believe they are still not benefiting the Tigrayans enough?

Long live Ethiopia and Ethiopians!
12/31/09 @ 15:54
Comment from: Selam [Visitor]
This is for Lula..think before you spit your venom..with your ignorance..NOT all Tigrians are for Melese...there are a lot of briliant Tigry Ethiopians who are proud of them self as Ethiopin and keep fighting Weyane.. This kind of stupidity will divide the people of Ethiopia with ethinicity...Lets NOT degrade one ethinicity from another...that kind of mentality we inhereted from our culture should eleminated. All people are equal. Lets work together as one for our country...and fight the dectatership.
12/31/09 @ 16:21
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Lula [Visitor]
My wish for my beloved countery Ethiopia2010 is , all tigrains will die with Meles & join there Ertrains BOSS, they belong there they kill my people , they stole our money,they sold our childern , sold our land what left.
Death for Meles & his family
Death For all Tigray

This is my NEW YEAR resolation.

Very much understood your frustrations what the mafia families Meles and Sebhat are doing right now but the Tigray people are more frustrated like you and they could not speak and tell the truth. At least in Addis Ababa and Amara region have more freedom than in Tigray specially outside of Mekele is real dark during day time because of the corrupt paid Meles cadres.
12/31/09 @ 16:27
Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
Ethiopia is under colonial rule of foreign invaders. They don’t care about the future of the country nor its survival. They relentlessly facilitate and gave away the country’s only Port. They shamelessly compromised Ethiopia’s sovereignty by selling its land for the neighboring nations. Their latest betrayal is - leasing … the nation’s fertile lands to highest bidder only to satisfy their selfish appetite. The pattern of the these hooligans is obvious, therefore all Ethiopians must be alarmed regardless of our ethnicity and back ground. They are public enemy number one and should be stooped before they fully destroy our country. I think every responsible Ethiopians specially those of us living abroad must expose this systemic destruction of entire nation by any means available to us. We need to petition the governments of India, China, Saudi Arabia and all nations which are allowing their corporations and individuals to do business with un elected, corrupted and rejected Woyane junta at the cost of poor and help less Ethiopians particularly rural farmers. We need to call investigations by UN to scrutinize the validity of these illegal land grapping exodus of foreigners. This takes every one’s voice. Lets stop being a paper tiger and do some thing about it. Our word must be followed by our action.
12/31/09 @ 16:38
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Thomas H the corrupt looter cadre,

Can you tell us how much will Saudi Arabia 99 years lease, South Korea, India, Djibouti, Nigeria and all the land grabbers for bribes will make for the leasing period???

We know how much Ethiopia small farmers will be benefited when they immigrate to Addis Ababa streets and the rest of major cities to be scavenger at the garbage dumping places.

How much dollars you facilitated for Meles and Sebhat to transfer money from Mekele bank to Europe and China banks???
If you are not sure the exact figures you may ask their treasury Berhane Gebre Kirostos, he has all the deposit slips and monthly bank statements and bank reconciled book keepings.
12/31/09 @ 16:41
Comment from: Sam [Visitor]
The Bloomerg news compells any rational Ethiopian to question why the government is kept busy in making Ethiopian farmers laborers in their own land. This news came on top of another I read somewhere about the Egyptian prime minister being in Ethiopia to make land deal with the government. Is Ethiopia really is for sale? The recent barrage of news I keep reading support that supposition. The government seems to have believed some Ethiopians are not up to the task of farming. Making them laborers to foreign investors,EPDRF seems to have believed, might be benefical to them than they sweating on farming which they "apparently" have no knowlege about. But if some Ethiopians from small ethnic group, who apparently lack the political influence to shape Ethiopian politics, are singled out to be turned out laboresrs for foreigners, could not be wise for the government to make a deal which might at least benefit the inhabitants of the area? According to Bloomberg, the company will pay no cents for the first six years. And after that it only pays 1.18 dollar per hectare per year. A land in Indonesia and Malyasia of the same quality would cost 350 dollar per heactre per year. If these guys are determined to continue on this selling binge at least,one reasonably assumes, they might have been a good bargainer. Or there is a message here. Maybe the government of EPDRF is saying the Gambella peasant is much less productive than an Indonesian peasant so EPDRF cannot bargain with good conscience for people who have no knowlege of farming. Who could deny the last 20 years are not good for the nationalities of Ethiopia no matter how distute they are or insignificant their number would be to influence national politics? Indeed they should have influenced the thinking of EPDRF otherwise the government was not be busy to relieve the peasants of Gambella from their dillema by finding a company that would buy their labors.


12/31/09 @ 16:59
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
We do not need to see any green farming lands videos from Ethiopia anymore because the videos remind us we are being slaved in our lands in 21st century. The Videos should show us our brothers and sisters AREMA SHEQAYOCH at those green our masters farming lands.
12/31/09 @ 17:07
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
My New Year resolution:

Ras Kitifo, Ras Butter and Ras Yesga Wet to coordinate their mighty armies and possess Meles Zenawa’s body and let the high blood pressure take over his life to the eternal Devils the cemetery of Ahmed Gragn and Yudit Gigit.
12/31/09 @ 17:25
Comment from: tena ystelegn [Visitor]
one should warn these parasite indians weyane will pay for the damage and inhuman act by desplacing the natural owners of the land if they meant good weyane could have improved their livelyhood through interantional aid which it lives on to assist the community in the area -weyane greed never stops from saling the land and the people as slave -all this is part of its genocide behaviour and the day will come which is soon the weyane gang will stand at ICC just like Hitler
12/31/09 @ 17:25
Comment from: hmamlbi [Visitor]
I am an Eritrean that wishes the best for Ethiopia. I always have. I just have one advice. What does it mean "National pride", when you do not have "National Bread"?
Stop the old mentality of empty pride. Women and some men in poor countries do not become prostitutes because it is respectable profession,but because they do not have enough education or resources. What does it mean "pride" to a father/mother who sees its children die infront of him/her?
Please have better logic than us Eritreans , stop drinking polluted water & bulching spaghetti/bistecca!!!
just brotherly advice
San Diego, California
12/31/09 @ 17:27
Comment from: Tolla [Visitor]
Thomas H,

First of all, get rid of your borrowed name and put on (wear on) your real woyanne name!!!! Next, no one company came to Tigray to buy land, but woyanne is selling land originally inhabited by powerless marginal inhabitants with little ability to resist the Agazi army. Second, the land is not barren and empty, but inhabited at less population density (sparse). Woyanne has to start by selling Tigray's land to teach others that this kind of practice is beneficial to the locals and good investment practice as a whole. Otherwise, it only means BE SEW KUSIL, INCHET SIDEDBET, because you are not feeling the pain directly!!!!!!
12/31/09 @ 17:27
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
My New Year resolution: (Modified)

Ras Kitifo, Ras Butter and Ras Yesga Wet to coordinate their mighty armies and possess Meles Zenawa’s body and let the high blood pressure take over his life to the eternal Devils the cemetery of Ahmed Gragn and Yudit Gigit accompanied by Sebhat Nega to be buried alive together as Meles’s Chin Gered for eternal servant.
12/31/09 @ 17:31
Comment from: oneday [Visitor]

Lula you are the same as Meles
what a stupid wish something wrong with you.


, selling Ethiopians land cuz he can that is all Job creation my boot
Disputation day and night

All you TPLF supporters know, this is not a good deal for future generation of Ethiopia but it keeps you leader in power bit longer or you are too blind by greed.

12/31/09 @ 17:34
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Read my last year new year resolution: UN dropped big hammer on Shaebia.

My 2009 resolution

Thank you Issayas Afewerki for being the best secrete modern weapon of Ethiopia

Let God give you the inner strength and braveness to destroy and annihilate the Eritrean basic social fabric and make them weaker and weaker every day to the point where they can not function as government or simple society to defend them selves. At the end, Ethiopia will take you over with out firing one shot and spend a penny.

Thank God for guiding strong man Issayas and his security apparatus for the wonderful job they are doing day and night to humiliate Eritreans and made them the Arab maid and prostitutes.
Allah weakber!!!
12/31/09 @ 17:44
Comment from: yichalal [Visitor]
sometimes it really takes a very dramatic action to change the situation on the ground.I am really tired of hearing famine and draught in ethiopia.
I am not really sure but outside investors might be the solution.
so far we have tried every possibe solution.we try it with the feudal system where people are owning a land ,we tried it with derg(meret larshu),we tried with EPRDF with emphasis to agriculture.it all failed and the end result is major famiine with big headlines in the mainstream medias.
so let us give this a shot.if it doesn
t work ,we can always find some loop hole to break the deal.
12/31/09 @ 18:23
Comment from: EZRA [Visitor]
Israel Gov are planing to buy land in north part of Ethiopia.Becouse of a nile river it is a part of them(GION)or nile.Look what is going to happned and be open mined.You will see your on eyes the coming ten years.
12/31/09 @ 18:26
Comment from: Rasputin [Visitor]
Yes, we have a vast land which we are not using at the moment.However,it is wrong to give it free for any foreign investors in the name development.

Lula,
They stole every thing including your English.;)

12/31/09 @ 18:32
Comment from: Tadele [Visitor]
Mr Indian employer!!
We know you have paid zenawi & co. Hefty bonus for land deal to be deductable from your employee's wage, don't forget the revolution that wiped out the aristocratic king, any time can occur & wiped your Indian ass from Ethiopian land.
12/31/09 @ 18:48
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Truth,

I do not believe your premises knowing the hidden agenda from certain groups. Woyane or EPRDF nothing to do with what Meles is doing. We know exactly what is going on and we know who are the individuals driving and making decisions daily. I know you do not like to hear it but Woyane as an organization is the best vanguard of all Tigrayans and Tigray does not need two or more parties, what Tigray needs at this point in time is someone nationalist who embrace all Tigrayans and mobilize them for higher call to work harder in all sector of the fields. I strongly believe the current constitutions if applied properly and ethnic states is the best way to go forward and unite us as one equal partner and every ethnic decide their own fate in their region with out outside interferences and up to the region to speed up or slow down and plan their priorities. Anyone from outside should not tell them what to do and not to do.

If I was to change one thing from the current articles, I would get ride of article 39 for strong Federal Government to keep the union in the future and to compensate for the ethnic states, I would ABOLISH Amharic language from every region except Amara state and use English as our future national language may be 20 from the day the parliament passes the law.

I do understand anything Meles does will paint the whole Tigray, but all Tigrayans know that the organization is not the problems; the real problems are Meles and Sebhat who are not reflecting our characters, cultures, and values.
12/31/09 @ 19:48
Comment from: i-am-he [Visitor]
“These Indians do not have any humanity,”
“Just because we are poor it doesn’t make us less human.”
Mr. Obank, Ethiopian worker of Karuturi (photo included)

Why would Bloomberg publish the real name and photo of the poor guard? If the Indian manager reads this article, Mr. Obank could be fired immediately from his decent paying job ( by Ethiopian standard), since there are no workers union to stand in the defense of laborers right.
The ranting lawyers on this website should sue Bloomberg on behalf of Mr.Obank , if indeed the guard loses his job.
Otherwise,Mr Obank holla at your boy,i will do it myself.

Please stop being xenophobic,since this is the era of globalization. The same xenophobic opinion have been echoed , if , for example,an Amhara entrepreneur had been given vast swaths of investment land, say in Tigray.
12/31/09 @ 19:59
Comment from: Black boy [Visitor]
Not too long ago everybody was busy "blessing" Sheik Al Amoudin when it was announced his $80 million worth of tractors for his Saudi company had arrived in Ethiopia :no:, but now the same people object to any other Foreigners investing in Ethiopia, perhaps the land should just lay fallow and the 1000's possible jobs go uncreated? yet 90% of you talking don't even hold Ethiopian passports anymore 88| you all ran to the US and EU and got US/EU passports, and now you dare to call your selves Ethiopian's hmm Ethiopians my foot!
12/31/09 @ 20:20
Comment from: Tadelech [Visitor]
This is a major policy. The government should consult local governments, opposition parties, and peasant association before making radical commitments. The land question is very deep in the Ethiopian psyche. The goverment and its foreign partners should step back and start a different and democratic process on the issue. Remember there was a revolution in 1974, and land was the central question.
12/31/09 @ 20:27
Comment from: alha [Visitor]
let the GOBBELS distort reality day and night lie ABOUT ETHIOPIA. but Ethiopia will MARCH on
12/31/09 @ 21:03
Comment from: for ethiopians [Visitor]
hey guys..pls b grown ups. All i read is complaints and negative thinking. I wonder whether you guys are ethiopians or not. If you are ethiopians, you wouldnt post such type of shameful posts. you dont have to be government supporter to support their ideas or not. All we ethiopians need is to see a situation in a positive way and bring some positive consequences...by putting aside our political thinking. But if are determined to continue posting such comments, you guys dont deserve to be ethiopians and you will be the main factor for our countries backwardness.
12/31/09 @ 21:31
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
Wud Ethiopiawuian wogenochae, berteto metseley becha. Lelaw hulu waga yelewum.

Halafi,

Thanks for the kitfo and butter thing, it really brought a big smile to my face. A Happy Joyous New Year to you, and to my entire Ethiopian family, and yes that includes you too Thomas.
12/31/09 @ 22:00
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
GANDI,

You are so right dear brother. The British did that to you for four hundred years, and you did not lift a finger. Now who is the REAL monkey?
12/31/09 @ 22:05
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
Lula,

Don't condemn all. That is the worst thing you can say. Ke Tigray hono beyebetu tekemtto endeesat eyenedede eyazene yale bezu bezu ale.
Please, lets all be reasonable. "You ve seen one, you ve seen all" is not something that should come out of a reasonable mind.
12/31/09 @ 22:16
Comment from: Kokeb [Visitor]
HAPPY NEW-YEAR NAZRET.COM & ETHIOPIANS!


I wish the on-coming year will be the last day of the "ARAT-KILO DWARF CHIMP" and the TPLF TEGRE of APES. Let hope all the EKEKAMS will be deported back to the "BELESE REPUBLIC" to grow a banana and have the sand bath. No more "Filwoha" bbiittcchheess.
12/31/09 @ 22:53
Comment from: Berhan [Visitor]
People; we are poor and hungry for so long, there wasn't any hope at the horizon to think other wise. Leasing lands to forign investers are the way to go. If Ethiopians who live abroad or in the country don't want to do it at least let the investors work on the land. We know that developed countries do these kind of buisness around the world. Nothing new and if it brings development for the country and it's people it is good. To feed our ever growing population commercial farming with large scale is very important. People who owns the land must be compensated for their lose. Local farmers can't even produce enough for themselves leave alone to bring it to the market. Mechanized farming is the only way to feed ourselves.
We shouldn't exagurate things out of proportion for the sake of political gain. Be objective. My problem with current government is that not treating all Ethiopians equally.

The report I read in recent days troubles me a lot about one ethnic group get the meat and others die eating bones. All important positions in the military and civil organization are occupied by people from Tigray. I love tigray people they are Ethiopians and have to be treated equally with other ethiopians. I am confident people from tigray with good conscous will condem these practice. Power must be shared equally among it's citizens. I hope all of us must debate about these issues. Make sure not to use ethnicity in such a way that create hatred and misunderstanding. All Ethiopians are intitled to fair and equal treatment including tigraians. I have a great respect to prime minister Meles Zenawe. He did a lot of good things for Ethiopia. We need strong and knowledgable leader like him to change the situation in the country. At the same time want to encourage him and his government to think twice about their legacy. Mr. Meles is a leader for all people not only for the province he came from. An intellegent leader like him to practice ethnic politics an imaginable. If he does that sooner or later he will fail. I would like to belive the report is wrong. Ladies and gentlemen lets discuss issues not people.
Thank you for reading
12/31/09 @ 23:00
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Shewarega,

Happy and healthy new year for you and your families too.
12/31/09 @ 23:26
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Berhan,

What is the use of whether land grabbers from all over the world use mechanized farming large or small scale farming if the crops they produce shipped to their country to feed their own people???

If there was a quota certain percentages goes directly to Ethiopian markets and the remaining can ship them where ever they want, would have been beneficial for all Ethiopians in the country.

Even the farmers compensated by the land grabbers how long will the money they received will last to feed their families and raise their kids. The payment is one time and the farmers will end up immigrating to Addis Ababa streets as soon as they finish the money compensated. Have you researched a little bit what is happing in Brazil??? Brazil has the largest homeless people in the world, they are in millions living on the street, under bridges feeding from garbage dumping places competing with wild and homeless dogs despite the riches country in raw material resources in the world and very vast country with a few population.

Meles and Sebhat looted money from dying Tegaru during the great famine in 1984 all the aids came never reached to the intended people, why we can trust them anymore how the land leasing is open and transparent transactions???

Do you have any idea Mekele Bank is nothing but the bridge facilitator for looters Meles, Sebhat, Seyoum and some of the corrupt cadres from Addis Ababa to their personal accounts around the world???

Do you have any idea why Meles wanted his wife the CEO of EFFORT AND ILLITRATE ALEKA to be president of Tigray marriage related to Sebhat and Meles???

What do you think what will happen to Tigray if Meles does not lead Woyane???

Berhan, are you a true Tigrayan or one of the Deqalu admire of Meles for their pride and benefit on the expense of Tigrayans???
12/31/09 @ 23:55
Comment from: y2k [Visitor]
Thomas H,

You think any of these bird brains know what they are talking about ? If you sit each person contradicting your comment one on one for 15 years, they will come out even more dump than they are right now. Don`t blame them my friend they are used to begging through out their entire life so if you dedicate your entire life to drum the fact as to how the world operates, the only thing you get will be disappointment. BTW, you Intelligently expressed the whole farming investment mechanism while answering some of my questions in the process.
01/01/10 @ 00:00
Comment from: EthioMAN [Visitor]
Desperate for cash? Who is desperate? Meles for sure, this is just another gathering of hard cash by Meles and Co. before they make a run for it.

Wey Ethiopia... lezih gize deresen?
01/01/10 @ 00:39
Comment from: mike lagos [Visitor]
Think about the long run benefit guys. This project wont help Ethiopians in the long run. This guys will just pay peanuts to Ethiopians.

The point is why can't the Ethiopian govt do this project or give the locals good incentives to do this project?

01/01/10 @ 02:04
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
Those of you cheering for fake investment:

How loser and self hating can you be to think highly of outside investors and while having contempt for Ethiopians? You remind me of those Africans who collaborated with Arabs and the West to sell their fellow Africans for slavery. You are shameful to say we have been poor and starving so far and let foreigners come and feed us? How shameful can you be? Eventhough you maybe Tigray thinking the enslaved will be Gambella and the South, your true racist thinking is coming out, whether you like it or not, you are insulting yourself. Shameful!

Halafi,

I feel sorry that you are still trapped in that tribal mentality. I think the real struggle you are doing is for Tigray only rather than for Ethiopians as a whole. I think you are here on Nazret to change the thinking of the Ethiopians about Tigrayans. I do believe now that you don't give a hook for the rest of Ethiopians but Tigrayans. You are cheering for TPLF when Meles is part of TPLF.
01/01/10 @ 03:41
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]


Thomas H.

. . .suckin the bloods of poor farmers by your parasite evil regime is not new for me. . .

. . .you can enjoy your lavish meals while our poor farmers having empty foodplates. . .

. . .and because of your LOOTER CRONIES, these POOR FARMER BECOME POORER and RICH BECOME RICHER. . .

SHAME ON YOU PIG!!!



01/01/10 @ 04:38
Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]


GANDI,

. . .i wish you are not related to great Mahatma Ghandi who fight for the rights for what you called monkey. . .


01/01/10 @ 04:42
Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
Black Boy, We Ethiopians do not need passports to live on Our own land, it is the alien imposed federation which demands everyone to carry ID with them. I and I burn down the phantoms and illusions of this regime, I do not have one of their passports, for it has a star of witchcraft on it, when I was issued with a pink paper at Bole because I had no visa in my foreign passport, I burned that bit of paper because it had one of their satanic stars on it. Education must be free at all levels, Every Ethiopian family is entitled to one gasha of freehold land, When Ethiopians embrace these gifts from the Emperor, our land will never lay fallow, We will become Strong and United, and never allow alien interests to halt Our path of progress. Foreign investors must make a real contribution to the development and welfare of the Ethiopian people, the regime of secession does not mind if foreign investors pay Ethiopians less than the poverty threshold, for they are corrupt and their attitude will inevitably lead to their collapse. "The difference in colour is a notion that has no significance, the futility of asserting such a difference has now become obvious." HIM Negus Haile Selassie, Father of African Unity, Founder and guide of the United Nations, Defender of Faith, Rise with the Lion of Judah! Gasha for Ethiopians! Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
01/01/10 @ 04:44
Comment from: Yirgacheffee [Visitor]
Thomas H [Visitor]

Thank you for the highlights bro! You made my job a lot easier today.
01/01/10 @ 06:16
Comment from: Zerayakob Yared [Visitor]
SELAM SAID:

"This is for Lula..think before you spit your venom..with your ignorance..NOT all Tigrians are for Melese...there are a lot of briliant Tigry Ethiopians who are proud of them self as Ethiopin and keep fighting Weyane.. This kind of stupidity will divide the people of Ethiopia with ethinicity...Lets NOT degrade one ethinicity from another...that kind of mentality we inhereted from our culture should eleminated. All people are equal. Lets work together as one for our country...and fight the dectatership."

Selam, i thank you very much. I hope there are millions of Ethiopian, who are repeating your words and we can have the best nation on this earth!



01/01/10 @ 07:28
Comment from: Zerayakob Yared [Visitor]

Tolla,

how are you doing at all bro? If i was not from that corner, i would have liked you! Selam lehulachinim !!





01/01/10 @ 07:51
Comment from: Zerayakob Yared [Visitor]


Berhan,

if we could get back the money looted by that SIGIBGIB TSION YETEFACHIW SEYOUM, then HAWZIEN would look like DALLAS in the USA.




01/01/10 @ 07:56
Comment from: gov [Visitor]
If the govt is keen for the betterment of the nation, they could have let their own people cultivate or invest in their own land tax free. I'm sure there are a lot of wealthy Ethiopians ready to work for their country but the corrupt govt policy and ethnic division is crippling the whole of the country. Being poor does not justify exploitation. What a history Meles and TPLF is making!
01/01/10 @ 10:30
Comment from: Tefera [Visitor]
its ironic a country with abundant land is the one that is known for suffering from famine. one of the reason for the famine is the country not utilizing its arable land efficiently because the land simply required large investment to access it and utilize it. but now thanks to the soaring food price and some of the roads the land is attracting many investors who can use the land to benefit themselves and the country at least idealy. so what is the problem. TRUST. people in africa including ethiopia simply have not trust in their government and from the cheap deal these people are getting it sounds like some government employee was able to receive millions of dollars in bribe.
01/01/10 @ 10:37
Comment from: Lasta [Visitor]
Thomas H. le petit aga*mido lier,

There are more than 10 Ethiopians weather in Addis and abroad who could have been interested to invest on mechanized farming without inviting those Indians. I know personally two people in Addis.

Why give 6 years as a Good Will? Why? It should have been the other way around. Karuturi must have paid as a good will in forms of Agricultural School, housing, hospitals and so on. The problem is, I am 100% sure, there is a commission paid to Meles the mad dog and deposited in one his foreign accounts. Meles the dog and his family fortune is estimated > $1.2B.

Karuturi is going to pay $354 000.00 to Ethiopia (less than my two years salary) instead of paying $105 000 000.00, or in Birr 1’260’000’000.00 to Malaysia or Indonesia. Why? At least they should have paid in Birr 630 000 000.00 per year.

Stop your stupid finger pointing always at “US”. We never settled 3 000 years ago with our brothers and sisters in the south. Read the truth below:

ፊታውራሪ Free [Member] my friend wrote,

“Ethiopia’s one hectare of land (Be it in Afar, Ogaden, Benishangul..), which has been protected by our blood up till treasonous woyane's took over power by force and started selling it for a cent, is definitely worthy of more than 1.18 dollar a year, and there is no way we will allow foreigners to collect billions of dollar while we suffer from chronic food shortage. No amount of job creation that pays only 1 dollar a day or corporate tax that amounts less than half of the profit will stop Ethiopians from ousting the cancerous regime on power first and second the foreign looters from our land.”

Free, Lij Shewarega, Kokeb, Nazret.com and the rest of you,

I wish you a Happy New Year!!!
01/01/10 @ 11:34
Comment from: Adisweqt1 [Visitor]
I wonder was not better to give the farmers what even DERG gave them instead like co-operatives and allow them to sell their fruits in free market like the kibuts do it in Israel. This is just EPDRF's steps to ensure the badly needed hard foreign currency and looking a way to pay its supporters like the Government workers and affiliates. This does not have to do nothing to improve Ethiopian farmers fate neither Ethiopian economic outlook. The funny thing about they claim to fight for the farmers against neftenas but they just sold the same farmers to cheap early 20 century Latin America style big plantations.
01/01/10 @ 12:46
Comment from: Adisweqt [Visitor]
Thomas,

Do you think Woyyane will use the 40% tax to buy food from the same investors to feed Ethiopian facing hunger? If they do it they should be the stupidest leaders in the world for selling so cheap and buying later at higher prices. But the truth is they will not care less if people goes hungry or even die is all about their money my friend, they will just look for AID.
01/01/10 @ 12:49
Comment from: mastewal [Visitor]
The issue is not the leasing of the land.The main issue is who should make the decision. weyanie is imposing this on the people of Gambela and it is planning to embezle the rent income and taxes to Tigrayans.
Land leasing for expatriates is common practise in Australia, Namibia, Tanzanya and even in Nigeria. The rightfull owner of the land(Native Gambela people) must make the approval of the deal.
01/01/10 @ 12:52
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Truth,

Both of us talk about our own ethnics, the difference is I do not try to force other ethnic Ethiopians to speak for Tigray. You are trying to force other ethnics to preach and worship your ethnic only in the name of one Ethiopia. Ethiopia never been a monolithic one language, culture and religion country from the beginning and it will not be in the future. Ethiopia is a collection of about 80 dialects and many different cultures and it will remain that way for ever.

When I speak as Tigrayans for Tigray, I feel deep in soul proud Ethiopian. Other ethnics do have the same feelings when they make decisions about their own people in their own region their feeling about Ethiopia is strong ever. The only ethnic does not feel strong Ethiopia and does not like to talk about his own ethnic and make decision for his own region is you. The reason is you used to make decisions for others with out consulting them what want and do not want and implement them according your wish to advance your agenda. Now when you talk about your only ethnic you feel you are confined in one ethnic regions instead of 14 so called provinces. The new generations of all ethnics are smarter than some of you guys think. When every ethnic does things according their culture and values feel strong Ethiopia, if someone else from above tell them what to do let alone to listen, they fight it.
01/01/10 @ 12:56
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
What a jock ,these peoples are simply enslaved by this company , TPLf thugs and bandas have no lesson to give us .Their leba master after selling the sovereignty of Ethiopia to our worst enemies ,is actually selling fertile lands for foreign exploitors .The day there will be a cinema ,a hospital thanks of these companies that means that a chicken has tooth .
01/01/10 @ 13:18
Comment from: Guta [Visitor]
"failed attempt to lease 1.3 million ha in Madagascar." The officials secret deal was to give the 1.3 million Ha of land for S. Korean group for 99 years for free (behind the seen the government officials were said to have been bribed). Latter, when the deal was exposed to the public, the public were outraged, and sacked the government from power, and the secret deal has since been nullified.

Ethiopians need to stand against these dollar thirsty, TPLF (tigre) looters. They are selling the country`s firtile land (there is none in Tigri, mind you) and with the dollar they get, the TPLF invest it in Tigri. This trend needs to stop. The firtile land is in Oromia, SNNP, Afar and Amhara regions. All the people from these regions need to stand against these looters. If Madagascar people could do it, there is no way Ethiopians can`t do it!
01/01/10 @ 14:40
Comment from: yesi [Visitor]
Halfi Mengedi said: "I would ABOLISH Amharic language from every region except Amara state and use English as our future national language"

Use English, LOL. Do you know that illettracy in Ethiopia is about 72% and you want these people to speak english.
01/01/10 @ 15:12
Comment from: ELI [Visitor]
don't let these indians get land. they are greedy and have no humanity in their body. we will end up like kenya and south africa.
01/01/10 @ 15:38
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
Ato Lasta,

I wish you a Happy New Year, and all the best the New Year can bring you. Since you have honored me with the "Gondaran" title Lij, I have responded with the "Shewan" title Ato.

I have some documents relating to these two titles. It was a documentation of a conversation between Atse Tewodros and two of the important Shewan captives he took with Menelik to Gondar. During the days of Imperial Gondar, mid 1500s to 1700s, Shewa had been an integral part of their domain paying tribute to the Emperors. Then the dark days of Zemen Mesafent descended over our nation, with rulers from Gojjam, Tigray, Lasta, Yejju, and Wello fighting each other for control of the nation, i.e. at that time, Gondar, the major metropolis. At this time, Shewa, turned its face southward, expanding and mixing with all kinds of people. It developed almost an independent charcter to the point most of the titles and characters it had before were either dropped, or mixed with other cultures. There was no titles in Shewa like Kegnazmatch/grazmatch/fitawrari etc. The King was Mered Azmatch. The Supreme judge Afe Negus, men of the ruling houses Abeto, and the other important men that count, either Aba for Oromo, or Ato. Ato is a contraction of Abeto. The commander of the army was called "Abegaz", and the right hand man of the King that runs the everyday affairs, "Enderasae." The rest of the titles were reinstated after Menelik escaped and returned from Mekdela.

Tewodros intrigued by this and other cultural gaps he saw during his campaign to subdue Shewa, summoned these two officials of Haile Melekot (Menelik's father) and asked all kinds of questions to get answers to his thought. They were Nadew(Menelik's tutor) and Germamae (Haile Melekot's enderasae). After a long conversation, he asked them what is the meaning of this word "Ato". To which Germamae who was quick and shrewd answered, that the whole world knows, its a contraction of "Abeto", what I don't understand your Majesty, how in the world old bald men here in Gondar are called "Lij"?
The document notes that Ras Gebreyae, right hand man of Tewodros intervined, and told the Emperor its better if the "likawunt" of Gondar better concur first before the Emepror gave a quick answer, both were escorted out promptly. Gebreyae, very much aware of the nature of the temperament of Tewodros was trying to get those two out asap, because noone even those close to the Emepror knew when his anger can surface.

Now, as you are aware, ene Melesem Ato tebelewal,lol.
01/01/10 @ 17:23
Comment from: safu [Visitor] Email
Thomas,

Who told you that the land in Gambella was not used for 300 year? You are thinking with your bottom than your brain. The people of this fertile land use this land to earn their livelihood from and care for this land. That is why that land looked fertile. Where as the land that you belonged was destroyed by your likes without caring in the north. Therefore, you are more knowledgeable and civil than others who cared their environment. You are judging how this land was not used and with it the people on land too. They do not deserve $1.25 a day, but millions a year. That is their land and they need compensation. Who told you the land was not used for 300 year? You are thinking with your bottom than your brain. The people of this firtile land use this land to earn their lavelihood from this land without destrying it.It has massive use before you and the likes appeared on that land. You lost people have no value rather than destruction. Go to hell with your 3000 year history, but the people of that land have been living on that land more than that backward history of yours started. Burn man in hell! We promise you that we will liberate that land and you and your likes will be judged.

Peace to all other Ethiopian who respect others rights!

safu
01/01/10 @ 17:37
Comment from: dagnachew koru [Visitor]
I like Tomas's idea, but they should not be renting it for scrooge Indians.
Let's discuss about the land mater based on the Halile Silasie’s government. Haile Silasie was invested the whole Ethiopian land for only Amhara tribe, specially for Police officer, teachers, Orthodox church servants, judges, administrators, and etc… and the Nefts who got the land from Majuka were sucked the blood of peasants and they make misery of life for their own citizens. The locals even had no land to walk on for their barefoot..
Why the nefts crying now? Because they are out of the land which is not belongs to them? Forget that, even they will leave the area where they migrated and they will be back where ever they came from! What is wrong with investment? Indians were better than nefts. Even Ethiopian is not belongs to them.
01/01/10 @ 18:58
Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
Halafi Mengedi aka leflafi raggedy -

Here are my observations:

* You have a severe lack of consistency.

* You apply poor demonstrations to make your case.

* In most cases you don’t know what you are talking about

* You have a strong tendency of flip-flopping. It appears you are having enormous
difficulty whether to support or be against the Woyane junta.

* All your political conation is limited in your little Tigry out of the whole world. It
shows you have a lot more to catch up & way behind from the rest.

* You failed to understand - Derg was a whole sale killer. They murdered as many or
more People in every regions of the country as Tigry. Therefore, the majority
don’t give a damn about your every day Lekso.

* Your obsession against the Amharas shows you do have a chronic inferiority
complex to wards them.

* You need to comprehend with the complexity of Ethiopian & world politics or
current affairs. There is a much bigger planet beyond Tigry.

* You need to know that the rest of the country can survive with out Tigry but Tigry
can’t stand by itself with out the rest.

* Your mediocre & juvenile political out look is very damaging for Tigry from the
economic stand point then your attitude is useless even for your own Tigry.

* Most if not all of your arguments are not hold up by reality & evidence. Instead
you exercise myth and speculation to proof your points.

* You are delusional, confused, self conflicted, and garrulous.

* Finally, the irony is you are not only opinionated but you also believe on your opinions.
Which makes you the monolithic moron of the house.
01/01/10 @ 19:45
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
Ethiopian,
blame everything for woyane. When something is failed woyane to blame for it. If something is creating which is good for the country considered as a failure and woyane to blame for it.

Well, honestly speaking woyane is doing the best way possible to create everything which never been seen on the country history.

We all knows that Dergue had been leading the country not destroying but in total dismantled.

The Amahara centered Haileselasie was also not only bad for Ethiopia but also neglected among Ethiopian ethnicity as well. One ethnic which is Amhara the upper hand and the country considered as their own private property but for other ethnicity, they seen as a second citizens.

Now things are completely different than what we had been witnessed for the last two previous administration.So lets say thumb thumb up for woyane at this time.

The new land leasing things that every one cry for, lets see how that work. As long as it is good for the people and good for the economy, why not try it?.

Happy New Year to you all...Yeha
01/01/10 @ 19:59
Comment from: The Professor [Visitor] Email
I agree with Thomas:idea:, I think you people are proud of begging for food rather than working for it - shame on you.:no::no:

Yes, the lands never worked for 300 years or more except holding you assholes.:lalala: So shut up and let the people work
01/01/10 @ 20:53
Comment from: Next call [Visitor]
Guess what, let these Indians develop the land and down the road there is already a grass root movement to streamline these land grabs all over the World, specially in Africa. I am confident that the FAO and other international organisations will come up with a comprehensive agreement which will take the indigenous elements in perspective. For now, let these scrooge Indians prepare the land by planting palm trees which take as many as six years to yield. The Indian corporation is the biggest supplier of fresh cut flower in the World and will sooner than later modify its practice of paying below minimum wages if those concerned here were to start a campaign in Europe in front of supermarkets and flower shops by exposing its practice.

In general, this land was sitting idle for millions of years and it is about time someone came up to tame it. something is better than nothing. most of all let us watch how the international campaign initiated in Rome is taking foot hold. Khatouri will have to abide by these treaties as it dare not lose its massive flower market in the World.
I don't think it is a lose lose situation from the point of view of Ethiopia's interest so long as pressure is put on the corporation to be more forthcoming in ameliorating the life of the locals. 40% corporate tax on profits is what we have to look at. As for Bloomberg news's Jason, I have read his latest reports from Addis and I think he is more and more biased against Chinese and Indian investors and the govt in Addis per se. I will read his whole article which is full of holes. According to him, the Ethiopian govt is desperate for cash and yet there is no money exchanging hands for the next 6 years. am i missing something? He buried some of the benefits of this deal which i still consider a ' hot potato'. Those worried to their stomach can join letter writing campaigns, vigils etc for these major international company to come to terms. I still think considering that there was no one who came to the table and the remoteness and inaccessibility of this region it is a deal which can be improved.....Khartouri will have to build roads and infrastructure to get the produce to the nearest port that, in it by itself, will be beneficial both to those in Gambela and the ctry at large. So this is a mixed bag but the pros do out weigh the cons.
01/01/10 @ 21:24
Comment from: Shegaw - Yayew Hulu Yedenekal [Visitor]
yesi [Visitor]

Did you say 72% are illiterate ??- I don't know how accurate this % is but my question is what happen to all those movements to eradicate illiteracy from the face of Ethiopia - By the way something grandiose heralded by the Dergue regime - If this % is true then the only person to take this blame - is Meles
Also abolishing Amharic as a language of instruction is something that will benefit the country in the long run - when we are moving into a mode of total globalization, and Ethiopian children not being able to communicate in proper English language will be a handicap for the progress of the country
There is no correlation between illiteracy and abolishing a local language - In fact if that 72% rate is accurate then introducing English with all full throttle is adamant to the economic progress of the country

elcad [Visitor]
If someone has to say anything about your ethnic groups the amara then immediately you lashed them with this stupid statement that we have an inferiority complex - Grow up mentally you piece of dirt
01/01/10 @ 22:30
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Comment from: Thomas H [Visitor]
"Hi All,
1.The company will create up to 20,000 jobs.They are creating jobs where there were none.
2.It has plans to build a hospital, a cinema, a school and a day-care center in the settlement.
3. After six years,the company is going to pay 4,500,000.00 Birr/year for land rent fees.
4.The government is going to get revenue from corporate income taxes(up to 40%).
6.The company will transfer modern farming technology to Ethiopia.So, the local farmers will learn modern farming technology with out going to school and paying tuition fees.
5. Finally to those neftegnas who cry day in day out,this land has never been used in the past 3000 years.It was just sitting idle for 3000 years. "

1 The Gambela people didn't say that they are unemolyeed.they are proud farmers and earn enough to support themselves.
2 It is the governement not business companies to supply those facilities
3 Is that big enough for you?
4 You got good theory but will the gambela people get some of that money and will better of.
5 Again the government has responsibility to educate & train people.Even in devloped countries(let alone Africa), Business companies don't give shit about people.The only thing that matter is profit.
6 I have no choice to say that but Your are so stupid . You think the Gambela people only need to breath air to survive for the last 3000 or what ever years from they settled.
For better or worse this kind of dicision have to be made by people of Ethiopia not by woyanne.Investers have to know that the contract is void from the beginning.
01/02/10 @ 00:38
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]:I see your veiws. You have personal(not poletical)hatred to Melese and Sebhat.You write to much to say to little.
If you truly want to keep a united Ethiopia,you better come up with a reasonable idea how we will live together other than you preached at dedebit.
01/02/10 @ 02:22
Comment from: Noname4me1 [Visitor]
Many people in this room are trying to hide what exactly happening in Ethiopia
Please try to see this issue fairly.
Did the Woyane Government gave any land from Tigary region to Arab investors? The answer is no. Actually they took a fartail land from Gonder and Welo to expand Tigray.
If you ask me ….
Yes they are in a hot kid treading business (adoptions)
They are selling our young girls for the Arab world.
Indians and the Arab world are in a big shopping spree for our land.

What kind fact do you need? As far as I am concerned the Woyane government is ready To start a Slave trade.
01/02/10 @ 03:49
Comment from: Lasta [Visitor]
Lij Shewarega,

I wish I had you around me. Since I left my country when I was 19, love to read our Ethiopian history written by you. You make it so interesting and romantic. You have mountains of information about our culture and people. May I suggest something? Please think on putting all those information in books, so, everyone can share your knowledge of the past.

As one of the descendants’ from the tribe of Zagwe I accept the title of Ato from a Lij and from Menz. You know what I mean. I always heard from my family not to trust people from Menz. But I trust you because I have dated one of your cousins in Ethiopia, of course from Sahlé-Sellassié branch.

The world is going into globalization, no doubt about that. But what makes me angry, is not giving the land to the Indian investors, which is not all of it. What makes me angry is, we Africans are still way behind than the rest of the world. I have been all over West Africa, it is the same story. A few weeks ago I visited Gojam for 4 days and found the country very fertile but didn’t see one tractor and 70% of the population without shoes. That really got into my nerve!! I was extremely devastated to see this fertile land and the population without food. When I told people in Addis, they said, oh! You didn’t see the south; it is even more fertile and beautiful. You know it, the Europeans made a tremendous progress after the Second World War, why are we not making a slight progress? The Chinese and Indians made a huge progress for the last 40 years, but why not us?

01/02/10 @ 11:39
Comment from: Gebreab [Visitor]
what always surprises me is meles's 360 degree turn on some of the positions he had some time ago. He swings here and there as it suits his situation and the 'hodams' are always following him with out questioning. Some time ago I rememeber him saying a bad mentality for an investor is a rent seeking mentality. Now he is the nemeber one rent seeker even a cheap renter of the expensive ethiopian land. what a crazy leader-enemy god gave us at this time.
01/02/10 @ 11:55
Comment from: safu [Visitor] Email
The Professor,

Not on my land, this is not your land and will never be. You people are calling fo bloodshed so be it, you will get it. This is an advanced notice to the Indians. The time is gone when you had large army to fight a large army. The time is single solder devastating the big. Everyone is going to be single solider for you and we devastate your proprtym and your natives or agents. For those hoping to be agents, it is time to think twice. You will go back in baggs and never be back agian. This is promiss is from natives and neighbours of Gambela aned the south. Take our word serriously and think AGAIN. Tthere is no free lunch my friend.
You can not go on destrying us so lond. Enough is enough!
Peace to all freedom lovers.
01/02/10 @ 13:41
Comment from: IAM [Visitor]
Dear berero [Visitor],
You have said it yourself: Dingay Ras!!!
01/02/10 @ 17:44
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
elcad,

Lol! Thank you, you seem to understand Halfi Mengedi very well. He is very confused. He seems to want my way or the high way. Although he maybe one of the moderate, he doesn't seem comfortable with the rest of Ethiopia except Tigray. He is happpy to be Ethiopian as long as Tigray rules through the means of his way but not Meles and Sebhatu way. So what do the rest of us Ethiopians think about Tigrayans? This is evidence enough, that Halafi is the most moderate Tigray you can get. Isn't that scary? This tells you, the obsession of Tigrayans pro ethnic bleiefs. That is why we don't see them going against TPLF or Meles. I really doubt Tigrayans, except very few support the rest of Ethopians. Let us not forget the ranting of the pro Weyane stooges on this website. From this we can even conclude you can't really find Tigrayns standing for the cause of Ethiopia as a whole. Please understand what I am saying the cause of Ethiopia does not make me Amara or neftegna. The cause of Ethiopia means protecting and supporting all Ethiopians: Tigray, Oromo, Amara, Gurage, Gambella, etc, etc.
01/02/10 @ 18:16
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
Yeha,

You said: "One ethnic which is Amhara the upper hand and the country considered as their own private property but for other ethnicity, they seen as a second citizens."

It is so funny, you want to justify and keep reminding people what it was before but you and Weyane still are doing the same thing. What makes you different from the past. That was feudalism and communism era and now you are benefiting in capitalistic and globalization era. Same thing. You had less technology in the past than today.

Who are seen as a second class citizens are the rest of Ethiopians today except Tigrayans controlling in numbers the army, businesses, coffee, etc. What should we call your, monoploy? Unfortunately there are some stupid people who are buying into your lies.
01/02/10 @ 18:20
Comment from: TOMAS [Visitor]

Ethiopians,

This is the breaking point. Meles and his Tigrean Juntas has done to break the will of our people since their arrivals of june 1991. This is final blow to our sovereignity and existances as a nation. The sale of our country in every global auctions is deliberate setting fires on our hungry farmers. Shall we burn or take fires to these farms? burn everything to ashes before fire devours us! The fire he set on our country must consume every seed on those farms bringing as even.
01/02/10 @ 19:49
Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
Truth -

Your remark exemplifies your name. Kudos for that. The Halafi dude is the poster child of a typical Tigry mentality. He’s problem with the Woyane junta is - they are not radical or pro Tigry enough. It is ironic to observe that but it is what it is. Tigry accounts less than 6% of the population but they control almost every important government posts, economic sectors and internal and external affairs of the nation. It is by far worst than when the Amharas were in power. This still not substantial or satisfactory for savages like Halafi and the likes. That’s why we see them barking 24/7 and throwing every stone against their former comrades. The problem with the Halafi dude is in most cases he is a hardcore Woyane but he doesn’t know he is one. He embodied the misguided belief about being Ethiopian carried by many Tigrayans. This sentiment as you eloquently put is - No Ethiopia with out Tigre superiority. It is Tigry first and Ethiopia second. If you ask the Halafi’s, the Lekim’s and other Woyane hooligans, they simply can’t imagine Ethiopia as their home land with out Tigres being in charge. The Woyane movement is actually the pattern of this conviction. Ethiopia is their conditional country. That is the danger with Woyanes and every thing they stand for. When people like yourself and I genuinely expressing our concern, the attack dogs immediately classify us as an Amhara oppressor aiming to regain power. That is the only card they have left to play. My problem is not with Tigry ethnicity. In fact even in this forum I was adamantly against profiling or targeting one for only being Tigre. However I am not sure if the other side think the same way particularly after seeing the caliber of the thugs here. Our problem is not who is in charge but what they stand for. Our concern is the future wellbeing and unity of our country as whole not a specific region or ethnic group. For them it is optional. They have no hurdle with Ethiopian origin as long as they loot and ransack the nation. Otherwise they will consider their next destination like a street prostitute. My only wish is the rest of Ethiopians including authentic Ethio - Tigrayans to unite against this bigots and traitors in order to expel them from our beloved Ethiopia.
01/02/10 @ 21:19
Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
SShegaw Yayew hulu yenefawal -

Hey, bozo, how did you figure out my ethnic back ground? By far you are the biggest moron slave and the monolithic piece of shit. As harm less as you are to others, your inferiority complex is eating your rotten self. There is no cure for substandard little souls like yourself in my profession except watching them die in their self created envy. Good ridden to your grave!


01/02/10 @ 21:36
Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]
Ato Lasta,

I left my country when I was a few months shy of 18. Just came out of prison most of my family dead or already overseas. I do not see myself of knowing that much about our past. What I know is very minimal, but the only reason I know a bit more is that from a very young age I always prefered to stick around the elders. Most were from higher class of society, which gave them a wider window to know about things as they happened. They all knew me for what I was, that I had a deep interest in our country's past, and as dumb as I am, I have an ability to remeber minute details of things that I saw or came across. They tolerated me, and also spoke openly without reservation. Many also gave me valuable documents. I even have documents that I have not seen. One good family friend, who was once The Nebureed of Axum, died few years back. I called back home to console his family, but his daughter told me he has told them to give all his documents to me, according to her "two suitcase full", lol. I replied "dehna bota askemtut." I know I will not step foot on my soil with the haters dancing on top of my people, but I know in due time I will get a chance to read it. These elders also gave me a true sense of, what Ethiopiawi chewanet means. I saw so many of them from different ethnic, or regions talk openly about past events, wars or disputes, among their respective forefathers. You did this and that at so and so battle, the other reply we did this because you did that, yet another redicules the first two that they are poisoning the atmosphere, and they all laugh things of that nature. But one thing that was clear was that they all saw themselves as equal Ethiopians. They do not defecate in acute regionalism, as it is seen here daily. Or because they have a beef against x, and y from region z doing things to them, they do not turn against their country holy mother Ethiopia. I learned early from them, that the country should and must come first.

You asked a good question, the Chinese and Indians made a great progress past 40 years why not us? The simple answer is we have been deliberately divided by those who sit in power, and we are being denied participation in this Global progress that you pointed out. Ethiopia has many educated people. Over all Ethiopians are tolerant to divisions among them, like ethnic/region/religion. Let alone those within the nation, the Diaspora alone could have done wonders for their country, if their was unity, and cooperation. But because it is being insulted daily by those haters in power, because of the divisive policies at hand, the Diaspora throws a few cash to its relatives and waists so much time on politics and hatred. The root of the problem is political tranquility. We lack that, we can't move forward.
01/03/10 @ 12:48
Comment from: Ashok [Visitor] Email
Hi Ethiopians,

We have worked with different government of Ethiopians since many years ago. We know how to do business nothing will change just try to be optimistic or you will go to hell with your own government gun.

You can work with us and share a little profit or die of hunger or bullet... your choice.

We have invested large amount of money in your country and we employed hundreds of workers and paying thousands to your government. We are trying to share our knowledge to those that have nothing and feed them too.

Oh! by the way we have nuclear and what do you have....may be made in china Ak-47

I am advising you to get back where you belong.
01/03/10 @ 15:58
Comment from: The Professor [Visitor] Email
safu

I think you missed the basic point - I am Ethiopian and I am telling you and your stupid friends to let the people work until we are capable of working rather than begging... are you getting what I am saying or are you trying to come up with a negative thought againg???
01/03/10 @ 16:03
Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Truth & elcad (G7),

Ethiopia is doing fine except a few things need to be corrected. The problems are esteemed directly from the Meles like port issues, selling lands, corruptions and opening the country for all evil staffs our society does not need at the present time like religions, outside bad cultures, etc). The most corrupts are Amara and Oromo. Amara are the teacher of Tigrayan honest Tegadelti how to master corruption but this can be corrected easily if EPRDF willing to throw out Meles from his position.

Condemning my beloved Woyane does not make me Yetera Ethiopiawi. In the US every senator speaks and advocates about his state not others except foreign maters. Every congress advocates his or her district not the whole state except foreign affairs. So I should talk and advocate the state that made me Ethiopia. With out Tigray I will not and I should not be Ethiopiawi. Your Amara ethnic made you Ethiopiawi, the same is true for the rest of ethnic Ethiopians.

Get ride of one Amharic Ethiopia from your mind, that one was history. The reality of Addiswa Ethiopia is the multi ethnic language and culture bound by common interest to live together as a union.

When you say we Ethiopians, whom are you referring???

The Oromo, Afar, Somali, Tigray, Benishagule, Southern Nationalities and others do not agree with your premises or shares your view about today’s Ethiopia. Their thoughts and aspirations are aligned with my views towards Ethiopia Union. You can not say we Ethiopia when all the share holders of so called Ethiopia do not agree with you. Always remember you are one share holders among nine ones.
01/03/10 @ 17:28
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Thomas H,...

Your explanation was great,if these daispora politicians can understand. The problem is they deliberatly are avoiding the reality. They live in the west but they are primitive thinkers and backward. They have eyes but they can't see. They have ears yet they can't listen. They have brains but full of cocunuts.
All they can see,hear or think is some thing which degrades our govt or the woyanes. The good thing is woyane govt has no time for talk.they are people of deed and practicality. As we speak they are already implimenting everything on the above article. So who cares about people who are crying foul,for which they can do nothing to change things in Ethiopia.
If their lamentation could have changed the reality,Ethiopia would have not existed by now.
Thank you Woyane & EPRDF. Keep up the good job.
01/03/10 @ 18:39

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