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11/29/11

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Gay gathering sparks row between Ethiopia church and state

Gay gathering sparks row between Ethiopia church and state

By Aaron Maasho

ADDIS ABABA Nov 29 (Reuters)
- A meeting organised by an African gay lobby group ahead of an AIDS conference in Ethiopia has sparked a rare spat between the government and religious groups.

Religious leaders demand the cancellation of the gathering scheduled for Saturday, organised by African Men for Sexual Health and Rights, saying it would violate the country's conservative culture.

State officials, however, are unwilling to budge having lobbied hard to win hosting rights for the influential 16th International Conference on AIDS and STIs in Africa due to start a day later.

On Tuesday, Abune Paulos, partriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, joined the Muslim mufti and the heads of the Catholic and Protestant churches for a meeting before delivering scathing remarks about homosexuals to the media.


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Peter Heinlein | Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

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Ethiopia's religious leaders have abruptly canceled a news conference called to denounce a planned meeting of gay rights activists on the fringes of an international meeting on AIDS. Ethiopia's attitude toward homosexuality is shaping up as a potential flash point as some of the world's leading experts gather to discuss trends in AIDS treatment and prevention.

The leaders of Ethiopia's main religious denominations faced journalists briefly in an Addis Ababa conference room Tuesday. Abune Paulos, the patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church was there, along with representatives of the Ethiopian Islamic Affairs Supreme Council, the Roman Catholic Church, and Protestant denominations.

But before anything could be said, Ethiopia's Health Minister Tewodros Adhanom arrived and asked for a word with the religious leaders in private.

Abrupt postponement

After nearly an hour, the leaders left without comment. The Reverend Iteffa Gobena Molte, president of the Ethiopian Evangelical Council Mekane Yesus told reporters the event would be rescheduled.

"It's postponed to another time. And when they are ready they will call upon you to come and record them," said Iteffa.

Reporters initially were told the news conference had been called to condemn a planned conference on "men who have sex with men."

The website of a group called the African Men for Sexual Health and Rights, or AMSHER, says the meeting is to be held Saturday at an Addis Ababa hotel. A list of speakers posted on the website include Michel Sidibe, director of UNAIDS, and Eric Goosby, the United States Global AIDS Coordinator.

Fighting AIDS

That gathering was to coincide with the 16th International Conference on AIDS and Sexually Transmitted Infections in Africa, which opens Sunday in the Ethiopian capital. More than 8,000 experts and activists are expected to attend, and former U.S. President George W. Bush is slated to be an honored guest.

The sudden cancelation of the news briefing underscores Ethiopia's strong anti-gay sentiment. At a 2008 meeting with reporters, many of the same religious leaders urged passage of a constitutional amendment banning homosexuality.

News reports at the time quoted the clergy as calling homosexuality “the pinnacle of immorality.” Ethiopian Orthodox leader Paulos was quoted as condemning gay sex, saying, “for people to act in this manner, they have to be stupid, like animals."

Condemnation of gay sex

Reverend Iteffa said Ethiopian Protestants believe homosexuality is unnatural.

"The Protestant church teaches about homosexuality that it is not God's creation. God had created man and woman. So that is the proper creation and it continues to be there, and the Bible explicitly says in many parts of the Bible, so we claim that to be our faith as a Protestant," he said.

A statement distributed to reporters at Tuesday's canceled news conference quoted a survey showing 97 percent of Ethiopians consider gay behavior immoral. It said scheduling a conference on homosexuality in Addis Ababa shows a disregard for Ethiopia's laws and morals.

An email asking for AMSHER's response was not immediately answered.

An official standing outside Tuesday's news conference site suggested that the intervention of the Health Ministry, a major backer of the AIDS conference, indicates that the AMSHER meeting might not take place. A call to the hotel being advertised as the meeting site showed no facilities are currently reserved in AMSHER's name.

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142 comments

Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
You know what? Good for them, what ever motivation they have to protest this event or why they postponed their announcement to defy the gathering is beyond me? But, I gave them credit for showing moralistic objection to stop any Gay gathering in Ethiopia. We don't need Fags running around the country; the Ethiopian public has enough problems.
11/29/11 @ 22:54
Comment from: Voiceout [Visitor]
This is another example of the
carelessness, disregard to the societal religious aspects of the country and lack of in depth thinking of our so called leaders and decision makers. The people siting at decision making positions think in narrow lines and only seek attention.

A thoughtful and wise leadership would not have called for such lobbying even if discussion on AIDS is important.

Please "LEADERS" look at plans from every angle.
11/29/11 @ 23:44
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
The hypocricy of these religeous gangs must be stopped by people who fought for equality and justice. They have every right to tell their followers about the evil or imorality of homosexuality. But they should know that they can't impose their religeous stupidity on people who have every right to follow and practice homosexuality. Religeon is private but Ethiopia is for all and should welcome even Satan if he wants to be part of the meeting.

Do I have any right to tell the government to ban the evangelist? Not at all. They have every right to preach even about the goodness and holiness of American evangelist who are antipoor and anti imigration. So, the separation of state and church must be respected.

I believe that you have every right to oppose but no right at all to stop them from having a meeting in my beloved country.
11/29/11 @ 23:46
Comment from: Liz [Visitor]
This is astounding.
TPLF has been murdering and imprisoning thousands and yet many religious "leaders" are complicit. Some event went to the extent of collaborating with the genocidal regime by closing doors to those who sought protection and help.
Yet these hate mongers come out to preach.
If they spent half the time feeding the poor instead of stuffing their greedy faces, then where would that country be?
Homosexuality has always been there since the antiquities, and will always be there. Those who are against homosexuality should not practice it. But, at the end of the day, no one has the right to impose their view of the world on anybody else. Church and state should be separated for a reason too.
11/30/11 @ 00:09
Comment from: M.J Tyson [Visitor]
Anything that promotes homosexuality should be banned completely homosexuality including pedophilia and zoophilia is the result of being mentally and morally weak . Religious leaders did good by objecting to this event.

11/30/11 @ 00:30
Comment from: Dejazmach Habesha [Visitor]
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Im a government supporter and I praise Meles Zenawis efforts in reintroducing Ethiopia as a brand new nation headed for success and poverty elimination.  EPRDF is the leading party of hope.


However this time I am shocked and disgusted. This is not what we want to be promoting.

These disgusting sick animals known as homosexuals do not belong in our Ethiopia.

This isnt religious affair. We are Christian Muslim Jew. But these fags go against not only religious laws but also the laws of human nature and society of Ethiopia.

Abune Paulos is right. They are sick animals. 

Liz and solomon i see you have been exposed to this rancid white trash and have accepted this as normal.

WE THE PEOPLE OF ETHIOPIA HAVE NOT.

97% of Ethiopians surveyed declared they were against these faggots and their practices.


I call on my Ethiopian brethren i dont care if ur Ortodox Pente Muslim Jew Waqefanna we need to unite against these kind of culture destroying disgraceful practices.

 I need Hagos wedi Meqelle, Feyissa ke wollega, Getachew Gonderew, Cabdi ye Jijiga lij,  Omod from beautiful Gambella, ALL ETHIOPIANS TO UNITE AND DEMAND OUR GOVERNMENT ILLEGALIZE THESE MEETINGS ON OUR UNCOLONIZED ETHIOPIAN SOIL.

And this time by any means including physical if necessary. Yes we will figgt for our honour.

Dejazmach Habesha a true Ethiopian has spoken.
11/30/11 @ 00:47
Comment from: M.J Tyson [Visitor]
solomon and Liz

What right do you people speak of? Gods right or American rights. This is Ethiopia don't forget that and we will overwhelmingly object and resist any homosexual agenda. They need help not approval.
11/30/11 @ 00:47
Comment from: tezibt [Visitor]
Solomon, Liz etc...

In principle I do agree with you that everyone has the right to practice what he or she pleases but there is a major factor here, culture. This is not even about religion, it is actually about culture. If you are driving 90 miles an hour and all of a sudden you make a u turn just because you saw a wonderland, doesn't mean you will survive. You will end up in a wreck. While gay culture may have been practiced for generations in hiding, it is a new phenomenon for Ethiopians to accept it openly or to have a meeting, demonstration or open gathering of gays. It took time even in the western world and they still are fighting for more rights. I can tell tell you that the country isn't ready yet. True, Meles and the gang are trying to put the country up there in the Map but they seem to have unrealistic ambitions in many areas. I wish them luck but these seems more of a theatrical scenario. As much as I believe that it is a learned behavior, I am also open to be convinced by scientific evidence that gay people are born gay. I am one who believe in god and that god doesn't make mistakes but people do make mistakes on identifying the right type of whole; therefore, I am more inclined to claim it can be exorcised. What ever the case, I do respect the rights of gays and in the meantime I hope gays in Ethiopia will adopt with the culture at hand. When you are 1 or 2 percent of the society that isn't westernized, you got a big problem. Good luck anyways.
11/30/11 @ 01:31
Comment from: agerwedad [Visitor]
Meles your genius never ceases to amaze me. What better way to drown out the rumors of an Arab spring in Ethiopia than finding something that will strike a nerve and raise emotions. Genius I tell you if only he used his skill set for good deeds.
11/30/11 @ 01:47
Comment from: Tee [Visitor]
Liz and solomon, you are perverts!

You can't have it both ways:
If you think homosexuality is a private matter why do you want legitimacy and imposition on others to accept same?
11/30/11 @ 02:17
Comment from: Shameful [Visitor]
Why does Ethiopia need to copy all the West crap? Is it to confirm your status of beggarism?
Why do homosexual need to expose themselves with pride and draw more children's attention?
Sexuality is personal so is Religion as well. So stop flashing with whatever you are. Work for common good instead.

Shameful!
11/30/11 @ 02:37
Comment from: Michael [Visitor]
Legesse sells land to foreigners. Now he is selling venue to homosexuals. This is the curse of allowing a Banda sell out to rule over Ethiopia.
11/30/11 @ 02:39
Comment from: pure [Visitor]
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Adam, this is the very reason of our being here on this earth.

I personally do not believe that Gay ppl should be given the platform FULL STOP.

Again I am going back to the outside influence specifically the West and certain individuals like Alamudi, who are bringing in their filthy ideas and exploiting the people of Ethiopia using money. And then they try to inflict civil war by using words like its Democracy, Human Right bla bla shit.

What is next for Ethiopia??
11/30/11 @ 03:23
Comment from: dallas [Visitor]
Solomon,
You are showing your true color. You must be gay. You dirty bastard, you have no right to disrespect our fathers, be it Christians or Muslims. Unlike you, they know what they are talking about. Ante bisbis, afehin ziga.
11/30/11 @ 03:33
Comment from: Mehari [Visitor]
*****
The western countries lost their basic moral to degrade themselves and to behave in such unnatural manner. America is full of it! UK Spain, Germany and many other European countries display it openly and gay partners are even allowed to adopt a child. Most politicians are gay! this is the downfall of human value. to be gay is sin.period. It is clearly stated in the bible. It is not normal. such trend finally will lead to the total destruction of the human being. Now, they are to invade Africa which so far has been left not to accept such behavior and way of life. It has to be stopped by any means. It is weird and disgusting. Let us look at nature, to birds, animals ..instinct leads them to their proper mate. A human being created in the image of God behaving lesser than animal is a horrible sin. Who knows what is happening to the western countries regarding the economical down turn might have been due to such abonment of God. It has to be fought back never to be accepted in our continent similar to the morally corrupt Europe and America. It might bring an end similar to Sodom and Gomorrah. Gayism is SIN and immoral. STOP it. I am afraid some diaspora s coming especially from the US are practicing such un Ethiopian and disgusting life trying to spread such sinful way of life and should be exposed and sent back to where they belong.
11/30/11 @ 03:52
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
Solomon fag

Gather them all drop them into active volcano,some where in afar region. These the western virus that is spreading like a wild fire among the western and ASEAN world is now slowly coming to Africa. Hoxxxmo, Lesxxxbian and phodxxxophile is nothing but a western society madness with no cure. We should burn them a live.

This fag Solomon is one of them.
11/30/11 @ 03:54
Comment from: Mehari [Visitor]
*****
To be gay is Sin and abonment in the eyes of God. The western countries are at the moral abyss due to such behavior. As it is the greatest sin, they are now suffering and paying the price through all kind of crisis. UK, Germany, Spain etc..are having even many members of parliament, political leaders, city governors alike. It is abhor-able sin. Africa in such manner was far out of it, but gradually due to globalization and some diaspora especially from the US, they dare to practice this disgusting way of life. It has to by any means stopped and give awareness to our society. All the Churches and other major religious groups must also take a firm stand and teach the public. This is disgrace and to be avoided from the coming generation. It leads to the end of humanity. Animals with instinct even are aware to have their proper mate. A human being created in the image of God degrading himself lesser than animals is something we should be aware of. We have many other set backs and need no additional burden to worry about. To be gay is SIN, period. The western countries are at this moment in a deep low moral level. It is obvious to see such horrible crime and lawlessness. We have to by any means fight it back to the extent of arresting those who practice to be taken to rehabilitation center. It is curable sickness. I have seen many cured men. Let it not happen in our country. We have enough problems to worry about and we should not be engaged in such misbehavior.
11/30/11 @ 04:11
Comment from: monen [Visitor]
These hypocrite, where were they when millions were denied their basic human rights and treated as animals by the regime?
If they have the courage to stand up for moral values and social norms, they firs must show their courage by making statements regarding the day to day life of ordinary Ethiopians. These days Ethiopia is a country where thousands of people are imprisioned, tortuored and sometimes even killed arbitrary.
Please stop using Homosexuality as an escape goat, it has been practised long before even the Bible and the Koran were written.
11/30/11 @ 04:39
Comment from: Gudifacha [Visitor]
I haven't seen a gay person killing others nor have i seen religious folks rally to oppose the killers.

You DOMAS this isnt about anti-homosexuality the so called leaders are fooling you. let me know if they standup and rally for an average guy/girl who doesnt have a loaf bread, should i go on and on?!
11/30/11 @ 04:48
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
*****
Prostitution, child trafficking, child slavery, spread of satanic religion which is neither protestant nor orthodox (whatever they are called), spread of radical Islam, morally corrupt youth that don't give a rats a$$ about anything else except making dirty quick buck by any means necessary (some would even sell their own mothers if they have to), NOW openly encouraging homosexuality?

The moral fabric of society in Ethiopia is quickly deteriorating just like the west WITHOUT the brains, civilization, advancement, democracy of the western world. The nation is now fast becoming Armageddon. Most people are confusing civilization, westernization with imitating ills of western society i.e. be materialistic, drugs & alcohol, by being morally, ethically corrupt, disregard to religion & elders, cheer leading for any western trash etc. If they want to mirror western style of society in Ethiopia, why not start from the best/basics?

Obviously, Zenawi & Co want to be seen as model African state advocating people's rights to do whatever they wish & come across as democratic nation. However, shouldn't they start by respecting people's basic rights to vote their leaders, to protest, to have press freedom, to openly criticize their leadership, to have as many private media outlets as possible etc? You can't just encourage rights to promote homosexuality while depriving & suffocation the nation on every level. Why not start giving freedom & democracy for all first? Only then we will all compromise our religious leaders's, elders views as to why homosexuals should have same rights as everybody else. Didn't they ban any kind of public gathering (Peaceful or otherwise)? Why are homosexuals from allover Africa gathering in Addis?

... As it happens, the despicable A*ame regime's motive is crystal clear, it has nothing to do with advocating individual human rights, rather to collect aid dollar from the very wealthy homosexual westerners be it politicians or others. I am pretty sure they are paid millions when they won the right to host this gathering. Respecting human rights doesn't start from encouraging faggots to flood Ethiopia & we all know that.


11/30/11 @ 06:16
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Solomon

If it wasn't for religious leaders, people in Ethiopia would have started cutting each other piece by piece by now you moronic faggot. They preach for calm, peace, respect, honor, moral values and encourage peaceful coexistence. They give people hope, encouragement. They teach how people must respect other’s fortunes i.e. if your next door neighbor is super wealthy & you are dirt poor, you are encouraged to appreciate whatever you have instead of resentment, killing your neighbors as in most African countries. Religious leaders play very important role in Ethiopia's society and they are NOT to be disrespected by faggots. Get real, get lost.
11/30/11 @ 06:26
Comment from: Henok [Visitor] Email
Ethiopia is not a free-riding country for Homosexuals. The government has to ce meticulous on this issue
11/30/11 @ 06:37
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
ይህ ደግሞ ከመወግድም አልፎ እንዲያውም ከዚህ አለም መደምሰስ ያለበት ጸረ-ተፈጥሮ የሆነ የሞልቃቃ ህዝቦች ባህል ነው ::
ሲሆን ሲሆን እነኚህን የወንድና የሴት ባለጌዎች አስሮ በጅራፍ መግረፍ ነው የሚገባው ::
እንደሚመስለኝ መለስ ጨናዊ ገንዘብ ለማግኛ ብሎ የሚያግበሰብሰው ነገር ሁሉ አሳፋሪ ብሎም አገራችንን ጎጂ ነው ::

ሞት ለወያኔዎች
ሞት ለ እ ህ አ ዴ ግ
11/30/11 @ 06:38
Comment from: Bethihu [Visitor]
I believe it is immortal, and it is a pesonal choise of lifestyle. So, it should be banned forever!!!

I believe their mession is for nothing positive, but to promote and politicize their evil lifestyle.

God bless the world!!

11/30/11 @ 10:29
Comment from: J.J. [Visitor]
You peoples looks like competing writing essay but we needs to do business.

Please join Ginbot 7, let’s kick this people out, we have to stop taking. We need to be united and time is run on highway.
11/30/11 @ 10:29
Comment from: Doyo [Visitor] Email
Ethiopia is a holy land, evil activity like homosexual will not be allowed. If any one want to be gay, must leave our Ethiopia and go to the WEST. And if gay is a democratic right, we Ethiopians do not want your democracy and keep it for your self. God keep our holy country from gay and from western democracy.
11/30/11 @ 10:52
Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
It is astounding to see people who regularly preach democracy here on this forum show their true colors. You can't have it both ways. Either you support the democratic right of individuals or you don't. You can't profess your love for democracy day in and day out and in the same breath deny people their right to practice whatever sexual preference they may have. Or is it the case that people talk about democracy only when it fits their political agenda, and in fact they don'tr really mean it. A case in point is Dr. Girigir (aka Berhanu of Ginbot 7)
11/30/11 @ 10:53
Comment from: kassa IMMANUEL Gebrekidan [Visitor]
*****
If Jesus was in The gathering in Ethiopian capital, He will sit and dine with the sinners and condemn their sins. Jesus came to eradicate sin and died for sinners around the globe. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life, JHON 3:16.
I am christian and adhere to the teaching of the holy bible as any convicted Christian. The Holy Bible is my living standard and manual to follow in my daily life. By my belief as Christian, homosexuality is sin as it is described on Leviticus 18:21-30.
We all came short of the glory of God and none of us is perfect in the eyes of God. With all our imperfections, we must learn to live and let live and love one another as Jesus commands us to do. Jesus loves sinners and hate sin and went to cross for the sins of the world.
We must separate the church and the state and let them do their jobs separately without interfering each other. It is not the church duty to interfere with the government on how to run the business of their people. Therefore, leave the business of the government to its leaders. Homosexuals are people too, they have their rights to exercise as Ethiopians. Stop the persecution because their way of life. You are not the Judge, God is.
Immanuel.
11/30/11 @ 12:09
Comment from: kiyyaa [Visitor]
For Solomon
I dont know if u are one, If not, would u please think of some man trying to date your son or brother or ... of 14 or 15 or 16.. years old who dont even know much about sex!!!
11/30/11 @ 12:41
Comment from: The lost boy [Visitor]
I am complity dis agree with religious leader any body can do what ever he /she believe we canot juge people but we can make comment, God can Juge his people. Gov't and Religious leader have to hand off from this kind of character. WE r the PEoplE. Lets think twice before we run to point our finger.
11/30/11 @ 12:44
Comment from: truth [Visitor]

It clearly shows who is in charge in today Ethiopia. One of the thugs showed up and gave a sturn worning suddenly the news conference get cancelled.

Any way where were these so called religous leaders when people get harrased,tortured, imprisoned and forced to die of starvation by the thugs holding power?

a bunch of hypocrats.
11/30/11 @ 12:53
Comment from: bahru [Visitor]
Hej guys take a breath they have democratic right to express what they bleve unless and otherwise they do not dusterb others. religion lela mebt lela
11/30/11 @ 13:57
Comment from: GEDION---NASHVILLE,TN [Visitor] Email
GAY MARRIAGE banned is a uniqe word, not just another word for NO, it can also mean fucked, not cool, blocked,not alowed,rejected and most other words associated with the word no, piss off, get fucked ect . mainly said in light hearted hummor situations "ETHIOPIAN AND ETHIOPIA READ" THIS!!!!
you arent born gay. thats impossible. if your born male, you're gonna like females. males turn gay cause their mother babied them when they were young, or they hung out with females all the time when they were kids."
Being babied or having female best friends has nothing to do with your sexual orientation. Oh, my best friend is fucking a guy! I think I'll join her! .... Not the way it works bub.

"and this is why gay marriage should be banned. if you can turn gay, then you can turn straight again."
So you're forcing them to go away from their ideals? Imagine gays were NOT the majority, and they wouldn't let you marry unless you were gay. You shouldn't be allowed to, just because you "can turn gay" ?

"leave us straights alone. we've banned gay marriage and thats the end, so stop your whining."
Canada AND AMERICA recently legalized gay marriage. Surprise.NO!!!

"imagine yourself a straight kid being adobted by faggots, how would you feel?"
Embarrassed. Now imagine yourself a gay kid being adopted by straight parents. How would you feel? I HOPE SO THE ANSWER NOTHING!!
Like every other goddamn gay person. Give 'em a break, they've got enough troubles.
For the record, I'm aN ETHIOPIAN STRAIGHT . I'm just big on rights.

The ETHIOPIA should be a free place for everybody. First it was only STRAIGHT WOMEN& males who were free. I'm one of those. Next it was free only for NEW KIDS males AND WOMENS. Then FOR ETHIOPIAN. When will it be free for all people?
you arent born gay.
government cannot administer under Constitutional law, neither can they administer opposite-sex marriages.
I AM NOT SUPPORTING GAY MARRIAGE LIKE THIS COUNTRIES You know where else gays can't get married? Nigeria, the Phillipines, Iran, places full of religious NOW NEW ETHIOPIA GOOD JOB!!. Oh, and just to be sure, Christianity is completely anti-gay. It comes from the New Testament, from Paul. He says they deserves to die, and compares them to all the worst sins of the world (also says non-believers and idolaters need to die, too, just to be fair). Romans 1:18-32
When faggots get married in San Francisco AND SEATTLE A joke
lololololol gay marriage

Ja Rule: Hey Dre let's go to San Francisco, we can get a gay marriage!
Dr. Dre: I ain't gonna marry you, I'm a Doctor you ain't shit.
Ludacris: But, but I don't like women, amma go write another love song with Ashanti...(runs away crying like a girl)
two plus two; two times two
2 + 2 = 4
2 x 2 = 4
4 is a great number
it's the fourth number of all numbers
did you know that?


11/30/11 @ 13:59
Comment from: GEDION---NASHVILLE,TN [Visitor] Email
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-----------> JOIN THE FIGHT AND HELP BY SIGNING THE PETITION AT WWW.NOGAYMARRIAGE.COM!!!
Gay marriage must be stopped. gay marriage 106 up, 343 down
Gay Marriage -- No such thing.

Marriage means 1 Man and 1 Women.

Not 1 Man and 1 Man, so this would mean there is no such thing as Marriage for 2 men.

Who are you faggots to decide what is Marriage and whats not?

If you want to be a feminist male so much why don't you cut off your penis?
Marriage:

Man+Woman

And it will always be that way, no matter what faggots say.

11/30/11 @ 14:05
Comment from: Love to all [Visitor]
This cannot happen in Ethiopia! I hope the Government will not let Ethiopia down! I think we need to pray for this people so that they come to their right mind. We do accept the person but not this wicked act it bring God’s wrath and curse on our Nation. The so called activist must be think two three times on what they are doing in life. You have destroyed the western world and now you come to us? We don’t need your stupid immoral act!
11/30/11 @ 14:31
Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
Homesexuality is an abomination to the Lord. The alien imposed federation of secession is an abomination to Ethiopia and its cultural traditions.
With the acceptance of homosexuality increasing in the heathenistic world, Our prayers to the Almighty God to safeguard Africa and Ethiopia from this wicked plague which is spreading its filthy disease and immorality world-wide. So long wicked Babylon have deceived the nations through her wine of fornication, Fire a go burn down their filthy batty business!

'For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.' Romans 1:18 (KJV)

"Our own Church is as ancient as our faith, and her history is replete with accounts of the unswerving faith of our people, the inspiring heroism of our martyrs, the Holiness of our saints. The history of our nation has always been closely related to the history of our Church, and the Church has been both the rallying point and the inspirer of our national unity.
Christianity has flourished in Our country, keeping its original features and character through the centuries. As a nation we have a great debt to the church for our cultural heritage." Selected Speeches His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I 635-6

Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy!
Long Live the Kebra Negast!
Long Live the Fetha Negast!
Fire burn down the corrupt carnal mind of the immoral EPRDF
Rise with the Lion of Judah!
Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
11/30/11 @ 15:37
Comment from: ermye [Visitor] Email
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i am realy sorry about that poor nation which he has got enough bread to eat.this is not the one he is looking from his government.which is shame of them.who know they might be one of them.my advice to all ethiopian be one n show them to this evil community.the other the one who organized hotel owner u r so gredy like Dr muray .do not forget as we makes u reach we can makes u poor
11/30/11 @ 15:59
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
@M.J Tyson,
Who are you when you say we? I am not talking about rights in USA. I am talking every human being rights in Ethiopia. Who allow you to judge people based on their sexula orientation. These people are creatures of god and if they have to be punished as your teachings tell us let god punish them and you don't have any right to tell them how they need to live their life.

We Ethiopian gave shelter for the perscuted moslems. We allow the unorthodox christians the right to preach in our country. I don't understand why the orthodox is united with the Islam and other christian leader to oppose the right of homesexuals to meet and talk how can help their members to protect themselves from HIV/STDs.

It is everyone's right to oppose but no one has the right to prevent them from meeting.
11/30/11 @ 16:41
Comment from: F.Kebede [Visitor]
"Go Forward Weyane!!!" make Ethiopia the shining example of Individual Liberty in Africa..... We are one of the founders of the African Union and the seat for AU, we are one of those who help Africans in their liberation struggles from colonisation, and we should be one of those to lead Africa by "guaranteeing liberty to all regardless of their sexual orientation",,,,,We are not Saudi Arebia where the religion is the constitution, we have a constitution that declares that "all men are equal",,,,,, so I ask Woyane to go forward and remove that nonsense law that criminalises homosexuality. We Habasha people have a very liberal and tolerant culture, we have a big heart and we are not like some of these scare mongers and prophets of doom who've been commenting negetively ,,they are finding it hard to see that there is something even higher than religion,,, By the way I am not a homosexual myself but just using my common sense, there are more things to life than religion and all other hocus pocus, and liberty is essential to the human mind just as bread and water, no one has the right to tell another on what to think, or for that instance who to like, if two adults choose to have a homosexual relationship it is their business, and they are exercising their God given right to choose. "If God find their act to be offensive then let him be the one to strike them down!!!" " Liberty, Equality and Fraternity" for all!!!!!!
11/30/11 @ 16:50
Comment from: ensmama [Visitor]
The law of land says to all people and societies "Marriage is between 1 Man and 1 Woman". Very simple. This is an equal right that is given to everybody. To the contrary, No one has the right to marry the same sex. Again this also applies to everybody.
Having said that, This few groups are asking special right for immoral activity. Special privilage somehow linked through white missionaries.
We can not make special previlages to a certain groups.
They have as equal right as anybody to marry different sex.But they choose not to, so Hell with Them.
11/30/11 @ 16:59
Comment from: Solomon [Visitor]
@Amhara Princess
You are neither Amhara Princess nor a decent human being. I can't tell you the evils of religeous leaders but this isn't the venu. Through out history, religeon is the cause of conflicts and destruction but Ethiopia has a proud culture and history of tolerance. That is what I want to be practiced even with this group. Who the hell are you or your religeous leaders to tell people what kind of life they need to live.

I applaud Ethiopians like kassa Immanuel Gebrekidan who are true religeous people who knows the true meaning of the bible. If your religeon teaches you homesxuality is imoral, let it be but don't try to impose your belief on others. I personally don't like it but I have no damn right to tell them to follow my life style or sexual interest.

Please grow up Ethiopians. Let's teach them about our culture of tolerance and hospitability. Let's teach them what we believe but let's not condemn them doing what they are doing. Even if we stoned them to death or torture them, I don't think we can change their behavior. Love and understanding may do more than haterd.
11/30/11 @ 17:10
Comment from: Queen Bibi [Visitor]
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What is the BIG DEAL any way since minority tyrants need any and every attention they can grab just like these homosexuals in order to divert attention from the Ethiopian starvation, land grabbing and the sure coming of the people's outrage just similar to Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, etc. I have no antipathy against homos but I hate to death that they are being used by brutal human rights violating dictatorial tyrants sweating to divert attention from their criminal activities.

When the task and role of governance utterly fails tyrants concentrate on to irrelevant trivialities which does not belong to their core functions of governance.
11/30/11 @ 18:03
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
None of weyanes crimes/damages are beyond forgiveness/reparation but if they turn our nation into a guy-guy loving society, they better prepare for the worst. What the heck has disgusting fags go to do in Ethiopia? First they introduce Aids, then they preach about condoms and now it's guys? what's next phedos and necros? Last time a similar article was on nazret, if memory serves me well, it sounded like the so called state was on the religious leaders side, what is different now? did meles zenawi fall in love with male pig? You better be very careful weyane, very very careful. I would like to see the usual cadres dare to throw a comment on this one! You miserable donkeys, man up and show yourselves.

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11/30/11 @ 18:08
Comment from: General Gagaa [Visitor]
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Imperial Body Guard,

Your hallucination is boundless. Please smoke modestly! The king is DEAD. The body guards are dispersed. Face the reality and try to relax for what ever is left from petit your life. :)
11/30/11 @ 18:13
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
If we read the postings, about 80% of those who care about their religeon are either don't understand what the teachings of their religion or they have no maral value. They choose to spit vulgar words which is incontradiction to the moral teachings of religion and their upringing and Ethiopian culture for that matter.

They are trying to teach us about the moral decline of the west. How can we justify the moral decline of the west when the west is in fact telling us to respect the rights of women, human beings as humans and minorities? We are flocking to their cities and towns. It is true that the religious conservatives of the west are telling us to condemn Homosexuals when some of them are in it until they get exposed.That is the true hypocrisy. The relioious conservatives are telling us to ignore the poor and the needy unless the poor and the needy succumb to their philosophy and ideology. Despite its ills and shortcomings, the west is not in moral decline. I am quite sure that most of thoe who are angry, calling names and look very passionate about their religion would have killed the homesexuals if they had a power or an opportunity to do so. Jesus Christ, who is the basis of their belief never teaches such act. I forgive them as they don't know what they are doing.

I hope our religion leaders come to their sense and pray for the homosexuals in order to look into themselves and change their life or pray for their god to have a miracle on those "sinners" as they want us to believe. I was taught by my parents not to interfere in God's work. God knowth more than any of us and God doesn't need sinners like us to judge people. We all are sinners in the eys of god and I don't think we are qualified to tell the homosexuals what thei fate would be.

Ethiopia is a land of plenty and for all. Some of you are trying to insert Gay marriage into this topic. I don't see any where these guys talking about gay marriage. Even if they want to marry, what is going to change in my life and other Ethiopians life? I wish them the best and want them to live their life privately but expect them to respect Ethiopian culture and hospitality.

I have heard a lot from our so called experts as homosexuality is unatural, evil, imoral, sin and so on. They are also calling them as fagots, animals and so on. Better untaught than ill-taught.
Peace
11/30/11 @ 18:25
Comment from: Dembidolo [Visitor]
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God created Adam and Eve then Abel and Kyle did it in the woods LOL Just Joking....yea personally I could care less if a person is gay or not because I simply don't believe that it's a choice and if that's the case, when did we actually choose to be straight?....try to put yourself in other peoples shoes before judging. I also believe that rules are put out there to keep human beings from going crazy and doing whatever they want and these rules should simply be created if it harms the other person...like stealing, cheating so on and so forth but if two people want to get their freak on regardless of their sexuality, hey who gives a shit....should we have the right to have an opinion about it? Absolutely! but when it comes to freedom so long as it's not harming anyone then hey...but yea I kind of think that this was kind of done on purpose to show the people of Ethiopia, "you have to take a step before you can take a mile" meaning it takes time for freedom to improve and other things to improve...hopefully I got my point across…it’s very hard to comment on something like this especially when most Ethiopians are ignorant and fight about something as simple as being from a different ethnic group even though as if people get to choose where they are born or what their first language would be….
11/30/11 @ 18:27
Comment from: Tezebet [Visitor]
Kassa IMMANUEL Gebrekidian

What a matured, a very thoughtful comment. I totally agree with you… coming from very conservative culture it is hard to swallow. But who are we to judge others? In what way God said one sin is better than other or one sin is worst than the other? God does not single out homosexuals as any more or less sinful than liars, killer, Adulterers, drunkards, robber, stealer, children rapist, … All of us (especially) Christens should remember that we are all sinners, Jesus came not for the good, the righteous, blameless but for the sinner (for all of us) None of us perfect if that was the case God would not sent his son to save us. I know for sure whoever see this issue in the eyes of religion it is hard to accepted as a normal or a right life style…and I expect them to act that way… I want people to understand I am not saying it is a right life style or agree with the homosexuality all I am saying is if you don’t like such kind of life style don’t be one. If you don’t like abortion please don’t do it, but don’t push your believe on others. No religion has a right to interfere others life style, we all is judged when the judgment day comes. In the name of religion there are so many horrible crimes committed…Homosexuality was here thousands of years ago, and it is going to be here as long as human being survived… if anyone one thinks that homosexuality behavior not exists in Ethiopia I will say that person is not truthful for himself.


The things wonders me is when Abune Paulos, partriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, preached about immorality? Who is immoral and corrupt more than Abune Paulos? The last so many years how many times he distance from what he was/is preaching, the same guy who sees thousands killed and sent to prison he never open his mouth to condemn not once in his life time. Is he telling us gays are more sinner than him? Is he trying to tell us morally he is superior to the gay man/women?

Saying what I said about the issue when it comes to TPLF I don’t think they did it just because they respect human right, they used the issue for their own political goal.
11/30/11 @ 19:05
Comment from: God's Mercy to Mama Ethiopia. [Visitor]

Another proof Meles as a puppet of the west.

He has to definitely carry out whatever he is instructed to do by his masters.

But on the other hand, this is a clear sign where Mama Ethiopia is heading.

Ethiopia is starting to stand against GOD!!! First step.

May God forgive Ethiopia!
11/30/11 @ 19:31
Comment from: Peace Camp [Visitor]
Solomon, Ethiopian don't need to worship the westerns because they are modern. Socially, they are in their chaos! instead of rushing to act nasty like this one, we can pick thier best qualities like to work hard... don't make yourself thier dumpster! no one dump any thing that has value in the dumpster but you and your likes are trying to be absorve anything as long as it comes from the westerns. The idea of "human right" you are talking about shouldn't conflict with our social value. no one has to be religious to oppose this kind of evil thoughts. it is simply immoral and unnatural. if you are already a faggot, you may keep doing whatever you are doing and worry for for the "uncivilized" Ethiopians:)
11/30/11 @ 20:01
Comment from: john john [Visitor]
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When you deal with west there is always bundles goes with it. The best way to avoid the baggage goes with it smily ignore it with nice smile. They make me sick when they try to export sick culture to other instead of keeping it to themselves. What a West.
11/30/11 @ 20:08
Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
General Gagaa [Visitor]
It is evidently clear that Babylon is Burnin'. Murdoch is broken, Wall street is crumblin' and the Eurozone is about to collapse. Q.E has never worked in history, so it is inevitable that the neo-colonial regime of ethnic federalism which is prey to outside alien interests will be driven away with wicked babylon as the smoke is driven away.
Haile Selassie I lives foreIever in the heart of I and I Rastafari keep on blazing a redder Hot Fire pon babylon and there is nothing the heathen can do to stop it, for "Only what the Lord wills will be done." HIM

"The soldierly qualities of self-sacrifice and discipline are best tested and demonstrated in the ordeal of fire. Today reveals that you possess these qualities in abundance and, even more important that the inherent courage and valour of the Ethiopian fighting man courses through your veins.
We take pride in reminding you that the tradition of Our Imperial Body Guard has been to follow unquestioningly the call of duty and to laugh in the face of death. To you who now take the place of those who have gone before you falls the sacred task of upholding this noble and glorious tradition.
We urge that you remain abreast of the latest and most modern military techniques, and that you preserve yourselves ever vigilant and fully prepared to answer your country's call.
In the Second World War, when psychological warfare was so effectively used, it was Our Imperial Body Guard which proved to the world that neither threats nor lures could divert the Ethiopian people from the path of duty." Selected Speeches of HIM Negus Haile Selassie I, page 605
11/30/11 @ 20:14
Comment from: Anon [Visitor]
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Some of the comments here really reveal how intolerant we are of other Ethiopians. We are so wrapped up in the Christian/Conservative perspective that we are willing to stifle the rights of others in order to satisfy the "lord". I am an Ethiopian raised as a Christian, but I've learned in time to see religion -- like many aspects of our culture -- is designed to keep us silent and under control. I'm no fan of Karl Marx, but he was right about religion.

I'm Ethiopian and I'm proud to be an Atheist.
11/30/11 @ 20:23
Comment from: Mr. T [Visitor]
... this is another messy cloud that accompanies the footsteps of the so called Western Counties.
This is the flag they carry around the world as a distraction from their true colour. For them, it serves more of a political purpose than anything else.

One has to ask, 'why this kind of deviant sexual behavour has reached its climax with the expasnion of capitalism?'
Gay comminty has found it difficult to explain. Muted answers are common: 'we are created in such away'. Is God woke out of sleep and forgot how the sexes are created at the beginnning? Or is this a new creation of capitalism?

If we have to beleive what they say, there has to be some kind of spontaneous mutation in their genes over the last 50 years. As we know, natural spontaneous mutation takes hundreds of years to appear. And there has to reason for it to concide with the expansion of capitalism.

Homosexuality is nothing but a baggage of capitalism. It is a 'social issue' which is created in response to what capitalism propagates day and night: about individualism. This individaulism and the pervasive social laws of capitalism has created what one might call- Sexual Social Cleavage(SSC).

Up on visiting one of the Western Countries, one might be shocked to see that men are 'aggregated' in one column of the society and women are 'aggregated' in the other. There is little interaction at all as compared to the rest of the world.
And secondly, the law and court system, preferrentially threats woman better than man. And marriage will not maintain life. Relationships become battle grounds rather being haven for both partners. And when this relationship dissolves, each one will join one of the cleavage colmns. And the two sexes are farther pulled apart mainly because of socail issues.

Many of these modern day adult homosexual have had terrible realtionship experience in their life. And the most disgusting thing about the gay rights is that they are poisoning young individuals who have little knowledge to make a soudn choice about sexuality. Young individauls, like those in elementary schools, wrongly percieve 'being gay' a as noble.

There is yet one troubling trend: gay couples can adopt a child. Why should an innocent child be left, only to be 'indoctrinated' by this 'deviant parents'? The child deserves a better protection: better be given the right to be raised in a heterosexual couple like 99.9 % of children around the world.
Hypocrisy is a true in-born character of capitalism.

And lets come back to the religious head figures in Ethiopia who all of a sudden disappeared behind the balcony. That is a show by itself! They are decieving the Ethiopian people by pretending that they can speak against the Government on social and religious concerns. But they ended up being deaf-mute.

The real deal is that they can't go against the flow in this steadfast regime of Meles. They couldn't fulfill the least of expectations: press conference or release. This definitely shows how PM Meles has consodilated extreme form of power that permeates even religoius institutions in Ethiopia!







11/30/11 @ 20:55
Comment from: berta [Visitor]
Homosexuality should be discouraged and should never ever be given a chance to be discussed in Ethiopia as an individual right or freedom. I wouldn't say homosexuals are immoral, stupid and animal but they should recognize that it is unnatural and bad for society. It is a choice but the choice can be unwanted.
Unless it stopped immediately, it will become an industry and poor counties like Ethiopia will be a good destination for gay tourists, who probably living a double life.
11/30/11 @ 21:27
Comment from: Aster [Visitor]
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I don't allow this to happen in my country.
That is digusting no compromise.
God bless Ethiopia!!
11/30/11 @ 22:02
Comment from: Elyza [Visitor]
በመሰረቱ ወንድ ለወንድ ወይም ሴት ለሴት(HOMO & LESBI) የጤናማ ሰዎች አእምሮ ውጤት አይደለም። ያ ክፉ መንፈስ የፈጠረው ከፈጣሪ የሚያጣላ ተግባር ነው። ምህረት እንዲርቅ፣ መርገም እንዲወርድ፣ ጸጋ እንዲጠፋ፣ ስይጥንና እንዲሰፍንየሚያደርግና ሀገራችንን የመርገም ምድር የሚያደርግ ተግባር ነው። አንዳንዶች ከመብት ጋር ያያይዙታል። ሰው በራሱ ህይወት ላይ መብት የለውም። መብቱ የእግዚአብሔርና የሀገሪቱ ህግ ነው። እንዲሁም ማኅበረሰቡ፣ የሀገሪቱ ህግና ሀይማኖታዊ ህጎች ይህንን ተግባር በሚከለክሉበት ሀገር ስለመብት መናገር የየትኛውንም ሰው ሚስት ውሽማ አድርጌ ለመያዝ ይፈቀድልኝ ብሎ እንደመጠየቅ ይቆጠራል። እናም ጎበዝ ሁላችሁም ወንድሞችና እህቶች የሀገሪቱ ውድቀትና ድኅነት ለማገገም ብዙ ዓመታትን በምትፈጅበት ሁኔታ ላይ እያለች ሌላ ውድቀትና የማኅበራዊ ቀውስ መከራን እንዲፈጸም መፍቀድ የለብንም። ይህ የፖለቲካ ጫወታ ወይም የጎሳ ችኩቻ ሳይሆን ህዝብ እንደህዝብ፣ ሃገር እንደሀገር መኖር የማንችልበትን ነገር መጥራት በመሆኑ በጋራ እንነሳ!! በግሉ በየቤቱ ምን እንደሚሰራ እሱና እግዚአብሔር ይወቁ! በኦፊሴል ግን እንዲህ ዓይነቱን አስጸያፊ እንዲሰራ መፍቀድ የለብንም። ከሁሉም በላይ ከፈጣሪ የተጣላ ህዝብ ሆነን የሰዶም እልቂትን ከምንጋብዝ ድሆች፣ለማኞች፣ስድተኞችና የተረሳ ህዝብ ተብለን በኢትዮጵያዊነት ስብእና ከፈጣሪ ጋር መኖር ይሻለናል!!!!!!!!!!!
11/30/11 @ 23:12
Comment from: Yoni [Visitor]
If some of you hate the West's culture of tolerance towards Fruitcakes and if your God hates Fruitcakes....why the F then do you seek for their JURIDICTIONS on human rights and other issues?

Isn't that denouncing you God?
You can't have it bothways...JUST POINTING OUT YOUR NEFT CONTRADICTIONS ;)

Now let me get back to my own contradictions
And let me state my concern that letting Habesha Ladyboys running around the streets of Addis will attract more of Arab fruitcakes to into our ghetto paradises...

I say let us milk the Aids conference to help Addis economy and send these activists out of the country fast...

Finally it wld be nice If the church separates itself from this issue...
11/30/11 @ 23:50
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
Ignorance is the mother of all evils. Those who are against the gathering of the homosexuals in Addis label anyone who defends the right of these people to gather and talk about health issues as gays and evils. I am a Christian but not the type of pastor Itefa and patriarich Paulos. I am a heterosexual and married. I am proud of my Ethiopians heritage but I strongly disagree with the banch of ignorant, hard core fundamentalist Christians and moslems who want to impose their will and belief on others.
11/30/11 @ 23:51
Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
I cant stand gays!!..what am tellin to ma ppl is just isolate them in any kind of social life. Never eat, play, gather, talk and do business wiz these disgusting creatures / animals no matter what until these cults get out of our societies life!!..So, easy...go do it!!...
12/01/11 @ 00:00
Comment from: Gebru [Visitor]


I Believe anything,Group,organization aganist GOD'S principle should be banned from ETHIOPIA Period.
12/01/11 @ 00:26
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
If religion is personal, which I completely agree, why do homosexuals want to impose their desire on the rest of the people? Is this not pure contradiction?

Aba Paulos is also bluffing. He doesn't mean it. He is for the fagots and government agenda.

All non-homosexual Ethiopians should organize themselves in every village, town and city and form 24 hour Homo-watch and fight back fiercely.

To all fagots: Keep your filth to yourselves. Worry less or none for others!!!!
12/01/11 @ 00:28
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
@Mario
Who is trying to impose his/her desire ? You are contradicting yourself. Homosexuals ask for their rights to be treated equally like you. As to why we are fighting in this forum, it is their right as you and me to gather in Ethiopia. Unless we remove Ethiopia from the map of the world, Ethiopia is part of the civilized world and a member of the UN. It has to respect their right. But antyone who oppose homosexuality also has every right to show his/her opposition of homosexuality.
12/01/11 @ 00:38
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
Solomon:

Be what ever you want and call that is also your absolute right. But, keep your homosexual filth (right) to yourself. That is what I am saying. That being said, where is the contradiction here? Where is the imposition you are talking about?

One more time: Keep your choice to yourself. Do not make any choice for me. I believe I am able to do that. Hope you get my point.

Also, what exactly are you trying to say when you wrote, "But antyone who oppose homosexuality also has every right to show his/her opposition of homosexuality". Can you elaborate a bit on that?

12/01/11 @ 01:51
Comment from: Shameful [Visitor]
@ Yoni,

Oh! You killing me LOL

You mean Ethiopia has sold whatever she has(the land, girls, children)and it is the turn for the Ladyboys to stand in raw for export like the coffee allover?

Damn! lol
12/01/11 @ 02:06
Comment from: dallas [Visitor]
C'est moi senait,

This time around, you and I are on the same page. Thank you for telling the truth, nothing but the truth about the fag called Solomon. He needs to go to hell with all his fag friends in the entire world. We don't have fags in Ethiopia and he wants to import them from Sanfransisco where he lives and from the world at large if he could. He should remain hiding in his ghetto instead of attempting to be an advocate to the world's fags.
12/01/11 @ 03:06
Comment from: Sam [Visitor]
Why is it the illegitimate shfta Weyanne inviting Sodomy in Ethiopia? You wouldn’t leave any stone unturned hey?

The Banda TPLF allowed these for two purpose as some noted above.
1. For face value to impressed his donors and the liberals so called progressive thinkers and sodomy advocates can support his dictatorship. That way he can prolong to power.
2. To collect money. TPLF will negotiate with the devil if there is money or felt a safe support will be gain.
If you really care about equality why didn’t you respected the people’s saying in the ballot box? Instead you shower them with bullets and now you become concerns for sodomy?


Solomon your entire argument sound like the western way of life style is admirable worth cloning IT around the world. Its unhealthy way of thinking men you ridiculed Amhara Princesses for eloquently pointing out to you the danger and down side of it. It gives children’s a false impression that you can have union between the same sexes. The pillars to society are family you loos that you have a failed and utterly corrupt society. Why are you strongly advocating sodomy? If you are one keep it for yourself at the end you’ll face HOLY GOD. You are not going to persuade any reasonable person with this issue name it believers or nonbelievers. I am a Christian and Sodomy is abominable to GOD. He created male and female HE bless them SAYING BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY. If GOD said it, that settles it for me.


12/01/11 @ 03:49
Comment from: Wendu [Visitor]
Clearly, homosexuality has existed in Africa as a human vice not as a human right. However, for Westerners trying to sell us this behavioral aberration as inalienable right is outrageous. Furth, for often outspoken government to be silent or not even denounce this is infuriating.

We, Ethiopians, have embraced people from all walks of life as a part of our national history. But, infiltration of our national history with the intent and potential of destroying it is categorically unacceptable. Any government that does not take part in stopping even extinguishing this kinds of movement is not fit to govern erg, must should be be disposed of.
12/01/11 @ 04:34
Comment from: Dagnachew Koru [Visitor]
All wondagered bushti must be killed.
12/01/11 @ 05:00
Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
@Solomon

Heterosexual??? But you sound like those shitt faggs!! a big lair!! First of all, nobody buys all your fucken nonsense!! Trust me someone busted your a@# real gooooood!! How about telling us something you are good at?? About your fagg life!! yeah, u better stick with that topic. Leave de rest for us!!..

M.T...you really make sense. The "Spontaneous mutation" part really kills me..loool
12/01/11 @ 05:08
Comment from: sf [Visitor]
@ Solomon,
You are great my brother. You have said it all which is in my mind.
Nobody has the right to tell other what he/she must do. Let the individual have their own choice.
The so called religeous groups or fathers, do not have the right to impose their backward idea on us.
I feel the religeous group in today world are the real treat for the whole world.
I say to them don't play with fire!
EVERBODY IS LOOKING AT YOUR BACK.
12/01/11 @ 05:32
Comment from: Observer [Visitor]
Wow, what a bunch of losers. They shut their mouth when people were being murdered and being tortured by this barbaric government now they come out and open their mouth when it comes to homosexuality. They have no courage to stand against any injustice but they claim to have one when it comes to homosexuality. Usually this happens when someone is trying to hide their own homosexuality tendencies.
12/01/11 @ 06:09
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Come on people, stop politicizing everything according to your intrpritation and belief. Most of all look at yourselves and try to be honest. Barking on the wrong tree here and there never did good to anybody especially to your own case.
Ethiopia has lost 25 Million people to AIDS. That doesn't mean all this people were gays, may be in Ethiopias case none of them were.
The confrence of ICASA, which is aimed to the awareness of AIDS and other sexually transmited infections which has affected Africa in alarming numbers is important, especially we Ethiopians should be proud of and give credit and appriciation to the people involved in this event.
Speaking of homosexuallity, most of you who live in the west should've known better. No one is dicrimnated against their sexual preference and way of life. You cannot impose your idea on others. And vise versa.
Having said that, in a country like Ethiopia it is a very sensetive issue which should be dealt accordinglly, and in that case the authorities in charge are doing a good job handling this case.
12/01/11 @ 07:01
Comment from: F.Kebede [Visitor]
Minorities or majorities are nothing but a collection of individuals, individuals are the ones that form majorities or minorities, and nations. So in a fair and just society the indivisible rights of individuals always come before the interest of groups. For example Ethiopia is a country with a majority of Orthodox Christians so if the majority is given more rights over the minorities, what would happen to the rights of other faith groups? Homosexuals are even a tinier minority in the society, all they want is not to be persecuted by the law for exercising their God given right to choose, as individuals. As a multi ethnic and multi faith nation our constitutional law must always make sure it guarantees, guards and protects the rights of all minorities regardless of their faith, their ethnicity, their political belief or their sexual orientation. If we want to have a fair and harmonious society this is where we should start, by empowering the individual with absolute freedom which no group can take away. This is the foundation for any modern society. If we are not happy to live in free and liberal society where every one is treated equally, we can always immigrate to countries like Saudi Arabia. Personally I don't believe that those who don't want to see homosexuals granted with the same equal protection by the law are a majority in Ethiopia. So I call on EPRDF again to bring this topic for discussion in the parliament and to work towards removing that useless law which criminalises homosexuality. Lets go forward ! "with Liberty, Equality and Fraternity."
12/01/11 @ 07:05
Comment from: Oz [Visitor]
I have something different to say,I dont mind If they burn them alive on every street! because there are no such thing as homosexual on other species like lions,birds or fish, so why do u think this behavior shows only on mankind? I believe this homosexual thing Is Invented by some rich wanne fuck everything people, They are the cause of every corraption In this world! We all should stop this western hemisphere bullshit !
12/01/11 @ 07:05
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
@Mario
You moron! They are not telling you you cant be a hetrosexual. You are the one telling them they can't be homosexuals. I hope you get the point. There is no partial right. If you get my point about your right to oppose homosexuality, go and have placards to show your opposition to homosexuality but you should not prevent them from having the meeting moron. That is the point. Go and have press release as you want but you have no right to prevent them from coming to attend the conference. I can't say what I am not. But I strongly believe they right must be respected. You have no right to give or take it from them.
12/01/11 @ 09:41
Comment from: Israel [Visitor]

Homosexuality gets practiced in Ethiopia mainly as a practice like a first phase of having sexual relations.

The homosexuals in Ethiopia grow out of it and turn straight as they get matured enough.

I don't see any reason for anyone to oppose aids education nomatter who orgaqnized it.
12/01/11 @ 12:19
Comment from: AALI [Visitor]
After the protest of the 2005 hundreds if not thousands of Ethiopians have been sodomized by MELES ZENAWI'S AGAZI SOLDIERS.

HOMOSEXUALITY IS VERY COMMON IN THE MELES ZENAWI'S MILITARY . NO CHURCH OR MOSQUE CAN STOP HOMOSEXUALITY IN ETHIOPIA.

Agazis are all for homosexuality and they got the big guns.

Recently Agazi Woyanne threatened to sodomize Debebe Eshetu’s family
Meles Zenawi regime’s propaganda chief Bereket Simon released a 4-part documentary video this week that accuses journalists and opposition politicians of plotting to carry out terrorist acts .The star witness of Bereket’s fictitious docu-drama is popular actor and member of the opposition UDJ Party. The video shows Artiste Debebe Eshetu talking about various plots and the discussions he had with Dr Berhanu Nega and other diasporas.It’s a total fabrication. After hearing what Debebe had to say, many were convinced that he must have been tortured or some thing real bad had happened to him to say all the things he said.

Meles Zenawi’s deputy head of security, Esayas Woldegiorgis, gave a script to Debebe Eshetu to study and repeat in front of cameras every thing in the script in a convincing way or else his grand children and other members of his family will be sodomized with a bottle. This information is according to a close member of Debebe Eshetu’s family. Debebe has complied and understandably so. I’d do the same thing if I were in his position. There is no heroism in unnecessarily subjecting one’s grand children and other helpless family members to torture and sodomy by Woyanne hyenas. The people of Ethiopia understand that any thing that comes out of Bereket Simon’s lie factory is a lie. On the other hand, Debebe Eshetu remains an Ethiopian hero in my view.

Torturing and sodomizing political prisoners is not a new practice for the Woyanne junta. Various international human rights organizations, and recently Wikileaks, have documented the horrific tortures inside Ethiopian prisons. Sodomizing opponents, which is foreign to Ethiopian culture, is a method that Meles brought from his country Yemen. Victims of sodomy are extremely traumatized and that they are too ashamed to tell even those closest to them. In recent past, at least two prominent opposition politicians I know of who had been subjected to sodomy. I will not mention their names to keep their privacy. But in time, they themselves may be willing to talk about it in public so that the perpetrators face justice.

For such crimes of sodomizing alone — not to mention the genocide in Ogaden and Gambella — Meles, Bereket and gang must be brought to the International Criminal Court.
12/01/11 @ 12:46
Comment from: what what [Visitor]
The newspiece should be titled Believers Vs. Government. All faiths in the whole world oppose Homosexuality. Muslims ( the mufti is scheduled to be at the press conference) The Patriarch, The Protestants...all religious leaders of note are against this evil.

So to title the news as Church & State gives the impression that it's only Christians who're against this abomination. As as I know Muslims are just as opposed to this as Christians, if not more.

Muslims, rather than counting Christains among their #1 enemy should join hands with us in fighting social vices like this ( homosexuality) Prostitution, child sex trafficking and all unethical and immoral practices, while we conduct ourselves freely according to our faith.

Muslims should stop blaming the west or Christians or Jews for social evils yet run into the background when opportunities like this present themselves so their voices can be heard where it counts.

Violence is a cowards way out of hard choices but people who speak up by putting themselves out there are the brave ones.
12/01/11 @ 13:23
Comment from: holly [Visitor] Email
*****
i feel so sick in to my stomach .this is really a last thing or the cheapest thing happened to our ethiopia.i read last night in this sight Ethiopia is the 2nd poorest country from the world still an able to feed her citizens .begs with the same suck . so what we are comparing what kind of eye glass they put not to see those hungry citizens.and they will tell as Guy are we old enough to listen this bloodshot .first thing is first ,still we are infants not yet woke by our self . we asking support to woke so lets grow first
12/01/11 @ 14:41
Comment from: Amaya [Visitor] Email
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The world has changed; whether we agree with the life style or not it is always there and it will continue to be there. Our denial does not make it go away. My worry is letting it stay underground will do more harm to children. The wise thing to do is to simultaneously enact a law that will protect from pedophiles. This will also distinguish those who are gay and pedophiles. If there is no law that will protect children then we will see real damage to many children and youth. That is a practical solution since international pressure will make the government to cave in. If we do not want to deal with sexual offends Canada, America, UK, Ireland, Germany, etc., are dealing with we have to put the law in place as soon as possible. Since we have never admitted the existence of the problem I doubt the existence of comprehensive law that will protect children from predators.
12/01/11 @ 15:32
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Solomon

You are neither heterosexual nor honorable man. Who said married men can't be faggots? In fact, those closet puffs are the worst types of offenders leaving their wives & kids to pursue their homosexual practices later on in life & they dare to tell us they were born faggots. I have no doubt you are one of those faggots who live double lives, feel sorry for your wife.

BTW, who is imposing what on who? Obviously heterosexuality is not just a way of life, it is the natural, normal way of life (natural order). You must be one retarded puff to believe heterosexuals are imposing their way of life on homos. They can do whatever the hell they like with their own a$$ :):) but they can't openly encourage it to the general public in Ethiopia & make Addis Africa's Faggot HQ you a$$hole.

I don't give a damn if they can go ahead and surgically reconstruct extra ass to do whatever the hell they like, in the privacy of their own homes. What I disagree with is advertising this abnormal practice as cool in Ethiopia and full on encouragement. Obviously, HIV is not just a gay diseases. Faggots from every corner of Africa need NOT gather in Addis to highlight HIV issues. Er'm I never seen your user name commenting on any issue here. You have gotta be one lady boy or closet homo to jump up & down on this thread. Keep your disgraceful practice in your own bedroom.
12/01/11 @ 16:52
Comment from: nothing to hide [Visitor]
This is absolutely a shocking news but it's not a surprising news. This is all a conspiracy theory of the New World Order. Ending the bans on homosexuality was one of the recommendations of an internal report into the future relevance of the New World Order. They are all against God and worshipping Satan.
They are a very real secret society. They are made up of the elite, the most powerful people in the world. They owned the media, the banking system, the financial sector, UN, Human Right activist, World leaders, Religious organization leaders, energy firm and of course they entirely run the world most renowned businesses. Their goal is to create a new world order which is basically the whole world is ruled by one government which is against the kingdom of God.
The Ethiopian government is desperately dependant for aids from the west who run the world and this is one of their conspiracy theory. Unless the Ethiopian government avoid the banning of Gay rights on its legislation (Constitute) will never entitled to be donated by the west. As Meles is member of the New World Order (The Illuminati) he would do whatever he has been offered.
12/01/11 @ 17:11
Comment from: ensmama [Visitor]
Mr. Solomon,
It is not a religous matter only, All living things such as plants, Animals are created Males and females and they produce and reproduce and reproduce. Have you seen on TV or read any gay plants,mammals and aquatic creatures having sex on any science article?
If few groups of people want to go Nude in public should we also allow them to do? If your young boy is raped by some wacho fag, how would you feel?
When you hear on the news on daily basis in America that children are molested and raped by their coaches and some criminals, isn't that bothering you?
So are you telling us that for few groups of gay's right should we risk the lives of Millions?
You also said you are married and have children. I hope you tell the truth,but you also sound like you are outraged and highly lost control by some responses you read. Based on Your conviction and support for this Immoral issue make me think you may be one of them. You can do it behind your curtain, but not in public.


12/01/11 @ 17:42
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
@Solomon

Mother of all fagots, Solomon, are you seriously losing the argument? You are now turning erratic, abusive and nonsensical. Pleas stay on topic.

You see, no one cares if some one obliterates your rare hole for that matter. What most people on this debate care is not to be told/lectured by individuals like you. Period.

May the wisdom of King Solomon rain upon you!!!

12/01/11 @ 18:23
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
What is the real issue here?
Any ways, Bush is going? Does he not oppose guy rights in the Military Don't ask Dont tell policy ? Does he not oppose abortion rights in America to? So why is he attending a guy sponsored event? Clearly, Evangleicals dont believe in what they say. As a matter of fact guy rights are the main issues in protestant following countries more than in other faiths. Quite interesting paradox.

But the main point I want to talk about is Bush as international criminal wanted for torturing human beings. Clearly he should have been detained there but he is free in Ethiopia as that country in history is known to torture Muslims they are pals with Meles.


It is a clear slap in the face for Muslims of Ethiopia to see Bush got invited. On the other hand, the Islamic affairs is one of the right hands of Meles and I doubt they will oppose guy rights since they are imported from the known Ah Bash who has fabricated a new line of thinking in Islam which advocates stealing from a christian is allowed and looking at naked movies as long as it is not in real life is not what is prohibited in Islam. They deny Allah and they say Quran is not word of Allah but Gebriel. What a mockery Meles is doing to Islam. Now guy righsts. Ah Bash is not peaceful and one of the leaders who visited Ethiopia is wanted in Boston for altercation in a Mosque and in appropriate possesion of private property. He is hiding in his Lebanon den.

Thank you Meles what we need is not bullet but bread.
12/01/11 @ 18:53
Comment from: Luam [Visitor]
@Amhara Princess
All this time you bellowed against Woyanes. But I am thinking you didn't do so because you are interested in freedom for Ethiopians. I am thinking now that you are doing it because you are just a hater.
Why such strong reaction you have? Has a man you married or dated turned
"faggot" after a foray with you? Seems the topic hit a major nerve.

Gay people have always been there and will always been there. Deal with it, just like we have to deal with your sad sad posts. You can't do anything about it, see? Everybody has the right to life and the right to love whoever they want. Everybody has the choice too.
I don't know what your idea of "advertising it" means, but it _WILL_ become the norm for people of same sex to get married as relics like yourself fall behind.

Freedom and equality will come for all people sooner or later.

So I suggest you go and cry about the many (probably including you) that slut around while involved or married with somebody else..spreading HIV.That hit home, huh? :)
12/01/11 @ 18:59
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
@Amhara Princess
Please change your f*king Amhara Princess pen name as you are one of the low life creatures who lacks the mental capacity to understand how you are trying to impose your views and religeous beliefs on others. I have nothing to fear to tell you if I am a homo but I am not, moron. I am a proud Ethiopian, a good christian, a heterosexual and proud parent. I strongly oppose the nonsense hard core religious fanatics like you. You have the psychic power to know that I am a fagot. Listen, you are a liar. You are pretending as if it is okay for them to do what ever they wish in their closet but you don't want to see them practice their life with freedom openly because you don't want them to encourage Ethiopians to follow their life style. You lack self confidence and knowledge about Ethiopia. Ethiopian people aren't stupuid like you to follow homosexuals. They are smarter than you. As long as the homosexuals don't force anyone to join them, it is their inherent right to come to Ethiopia. Who the hell are you to tell them they can do whatever they want in their closet? This is the main problem with you stinky mouth that spits every f*king word.

I care about all human beings. They are the children of god and it is upto god to show his guidance on them. You and me are the most terrible sinners who think we know about what is good and bad to our society. Loser.
12/01/11 @ 19:20
Comment from: Shameful [Visitor]
HOLLY CRAP !!!!

IM LUCKY THAT I AM NOT BORN ETHIOPIAN.

LOL

12/02/11 @ 02:22
Comment from: Golie [Visitor]
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First, I'm not a fan of Priests or Religion and I went to an Orthodox Christian School in Addis Abeba, but I do have respect for spiritual people, as just about everyone in my family is Orthodox Christian, and there are a lot of good people there and their faith works for them. My personal opinion is that what consenting adults do in their own privacy should not be a concern to anyone else including the Church and State. As the Priests claim, even if what they are doing is immoral, I doubt anyone of us have been appointed by "God" to discipline them, even though we seem to have time for it. Let "God" deal with them later, and the rest of us can work on our own problems, like making more money. In addition, making it illegal or condemning those who are gay doesn’t solve anything, because people are going to do what they are going to do, especially when it comes to sex, or kill themselves because they feel unwanted and hated. It always amazes me how religious people who preach "Gods" Powerful Love all day every day, choose to outcast and shun a group of people whom they don't agree with. This is just one of many contradictions in Religion. They should be heard and allowed to have their meeting anyway, since we're all craving democracy and openness, and exchange of ideas, and listening to one another, or are we not really? I live in hollywood now, and there are a lot of sucessful, decent, happy gays here. Hollywood is Gay people, and "God" seems to love them here, so i guess, get in where you fit in, no pun intended, who am I kiddin, Pun is intended.
12/02/11 @ 02:50
Comment from: Debrezion [Visitor]
*****
You people are not aware as to how much your leaders are corrupt?If you wave your flag you may feel that you are independent free from any out side force to meddle in your country's affair,but it is to the contrary,you being sold for the mighty sollar of the west since the butt face monkey came to power .you are marely reduced into doing the dirty western job.so that is why the church could not come out forcefuly to air its grievence regading the hosexuls in ethiopia.Melles wont allow desent by the church if he did the crumbs he gets from his masters will not be getting only to get dry.You people your dignity has all being gone in the dust been of history.
12/02/11 @ 03:49
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Phony

Ere Bakih? Tew Enjii? I had a feeling that you were a petite, feminine A*ame Lady Boy, especially when you were advocating for petite men like Napoleon & hitting on Addis Zemen coz' you got jealous of his unwanted friendship with me.

... Milk the situation? Are you for real? Well, in that case, you better dig for all your tight leather pants/leggings & stilettos from your closet & queue right outside Millennium Hall where all these fags would be gathering. I've no doubt that you can milk the situation. Not only milk, you might even hit the actual cow itself :):) Shame Addis Zemen is married with kids apparently ROFL ...
12/02/11 @ 09:05
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
To Amhara Princess.

Thank you for the last response to Phony.
To Luam.
Get a hold of yourself and do not touch Amhara Princess for she is lightyears ahead of you in terms of intellingence.

To all Weyane opportunists/Eri-boys on this site, your days are numbered and will see the demise of you all soon.
I have run out of paitence seeing these locust-hunters playing on my Ethiopia.
Death to TPLF
Death to homosexuals
United we shall build our Ethiopia.
12/02/11 @ 12:18
Comment from: Let's not be too judgemental! [Visitor]
Let's discuss the issue from to angles:
(1) Culture and priority
I don't think its time for Ethiopia to address the issue of gay rights...it is too complicated for ethiopian to assimilate gay culture into our conservative lifestyle,and overly religious culture.
Please don't misinterpret my comment...I have don't have the remotest objection to minority rights. What I am getting at is our culture has been stagnant for thousands of years and we can't even learn from others culture.In brief, we have got lots of things to learn ...science, medicine, philosophy, technology, good govenance...which are useful for our country...we have countless basic needs...if you know about management theories...about need hierarchy, where do we locate sex???
The prominent priority for our Ethiopia is building a prosperous democracy with well-educated and all-rounded citizens.
At this juncture, I don't think we are in a position to talk about gay rights....Note all of you PLEASE not to draw comparison between Ethiopia and the Western world. There is a HUGE difference. Above 50-80 % of Ethiopians are illiterate. So, do the government or the religious 'bloc' bother us with something we don't care about????
I have been to different countries and saw gay flags flapping in the air everywhere...nobody cares since the theory of individualism has taken deep root! In Ethiopia, we have strong attachement to each other and our lives are interwoven...which has good and bad aspects!
(2)From health or medical point-of-view, I believe we Ethiopians will be in great trouble if we leave Men-who -have sex-with-men (msm) out of our system. This is because, AIDS is as prevalent among homosexuals as their heterosexual counterparts, according to WHO, and other organizations!!! How can we fight AIDS? For sure, we can't stop gay sub-culture...its age-old! I think Dr. Tewodros Adhanom can give better explanation about the challenges his organization is facing in this regard.
All in all, I think the government should strike a balance between Ethiopian conservative culture and secularism of the state...even though, it would be a tough decision to make...

By the way, I don't think its proper to insult people for the comments they make...lets not degrade ourselves!!! We call for the government to respect our Freedom of Speech and Expression of our ideas...But we don't respect the selfsame principle!!!
Anyway, let's discuss freely, like reponsible creatures.
12/02/11 @ 12:39
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
I second Mesfin, the opportunist, uncultured, faithless, idiots loaded with many axes to grind against the magnificent and decent Princess of nazret, like the self proclaimed gay activist Luam should leave her the hell alone! Did you just wake up? where have you been all this time? As for slutting around to quote the Princess herself "it takes one to know one" you fucking slut! No self respecting Ethiopian lady uses her disagreement with her fellow sister to promote something as foreign and as unnatural satanic behavior as the one we're discussing right now.

The rest of you fag activists, instead of opening your disgraceful and unEthiopian mouth in here, why don't just go back home and ask people what they think about it? Ethiopians with deep association with the church/mosque can be quite conservative for obvious reasons but the rest is NOT yet I dare you to find 100 Ethiopians holding an opinion like the one your dying to display on this page. Wow how democratic, life in west have brought you to be.

Gragn: Worry about what Islam says about gays, let the pentes figure their conra on their own will yea? The one thing I don't get is if you hate Ethiopia what on earth is your business on Ethiopian site?

Zelan and johni/yonass: I admire your shamelessness and courage to show up in here, supporting gay rights which you and your jungle/desert dwellers have denied ordinary Ethiopian citizens for over two miserable decades. You've the nerve to incline/push activism in support of this devil induced inhumane, cruel, barbaric, arabic/yeminic behavior which was forcefully imposed on western society and now would like to spread throughout the planet like cancer. How about you practice it yourself so that our future gen won't have to deal with your would be off springs inheriting your myopic view of the world at large and Ethiopia in particular? Problem solved and everyone is happy! If these thing is for weyane only I will be the first to place my vote in the ballot in the weyane marked box next so called FREE election!
12/02/11 @ 13:21
Comment from: elias [Visitor]
I don't care who is sleeping who. as long as any guy is not touching me, period. Where is our church here in the U.S.?
12/02/11 @ 14:40
Comment from: bluesky [Visitor]
@"Amhara" "Princesses"

The lady doth protest too much..lol. You know what they say about those who are vocally against gays? They are closet homos themselves lol. Hmm.


SO get this my people. Next Woyane will use start some sort of "Intelligence Design" vs "Evolution" controversy to further conflicts within the population.

FYI--- here is what religion says (to those that have open eyes):
“...and you should forgive And overlook: Do you not like God to forgive you? And Allah is The Merciful Forgiving.”
— Qur’an (Surah 24, "The Light," v. 22)

“Woe to those... who, when they have to receive by measure from men, they demand exact full measure, but when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due”
— Qur’an (Surah 83, "The Dealers in Fraud," vv. 1–4)

“...orphans and the needy, give them something and speak kindly to them. And those who are concerned about the welfare of their own children after their death, should have fear of God [Treat other people's Orphans justly] and guide them properly.”
— Qur’an (Surah 4, "The Women," vv. 8-9)

“O you who believe! Spend [benevolently] of the good things that you have earned... and do not even think of spending [in alms] worthless things that you yourselves would be reluctant to accept.”
— Qur’an (Surah 2, "The Calf," v. 267)

“They assign daughters to Allah, Who is above having a child [whether male or female] and to themselves they assign what they desire [which is a male child]; And when the news of the birth of a female child is brought to one of them His face darkens and he hides his inward Grief and anger... They attribute to Allah what they dislike [For themselves] and their tongues assert the lie that the best reward will be theirs! Undoubtedly, the Hell fire shall be their lot and they will be foremost [in entering it].”
— Qur’an (Surah 16, "The Honey Bees," vv. 57-62)

Christianity:-----------

"Do to no one what you yourself dislike."
—Tobit 4:15

"Recognize that your neighbor feels as you do, and keep in mind your own dislikes."
—Sirach 31:15

At the time of Hillel, an elder contemporary of Jesus of Nazareth, the negative form of the golden rule already must have been proverbial, perhaps because of Tobit 4:15. When asked to sum up the entire Torah concisely, he answered:

"That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn."
—Talmud, Shabbat 31a

Two passages in the New Testament quote Jesus of Nazareth espousing the golden rule:

Matthew 7:12

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Luke 6:31
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
12/02/11 @ 15:11
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
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@ Solomon

You keep opening your already elasticated mouth without making a goddamn sense faggot. No amount of fabricated wife, kids will change the fact that you are closet fag. Just go back to my original post & read what I said. I live in the western world, I enjoy all the freedom & democracy they offer and it comes WITH LIMITS. Just because homosexuals are the norm in the west, it doesn't mean they are the best products of western society that Ethiopia need to promote clown.

As I already stated in my initial post, it is ridiculous to brand this gay gathering in Addis result of human rights or democracy in a country where there is absolutely NO sign of human rights, freedom of speech or democracy. The main motive for this meeting is aid dollar, nothing less, nothing MORE. You are either a moron or one of those brick head A*ames who don't care what Zenawi does regardless. Ethiopia has a million and one constructive things to mirror from the west just as there are a million one trashy ideas, practices we need to avoid. Promoting homosexuality in order to beg for aid dollar from wealthy faggots is certainly NOT the way to go.

... As for Ethiopian people being confident, too smart to follow the demonic trend, I say NOT as smart as western kids who now assume being gay is cool trend because faggots with excess cash, media control manipulate their every move. If high IQ, well educated, exposed, smart, out going western kids can easily be manipulated, what chances do Ethiopian kids have? You are a very tiny minded, big mouthed A*ame roach. Don't try to sound smart/superior as your post has outright IDIOT sprinkled all over it.

@ Luam

Another low level, ghetto A*ame trash that I have no time for. Come back with your regular user name, only then you might be lucky to have dialog with me. In the mean time, go talk to your fellow trashy folks with your trash language. Tegbaban? Yezorebat ye A*ame Arogit. This is Nazret.com NOT Aboy Kebrekidan's Tela Bet :)
12/02/11 @ 16:00
Comment from: Qaxxamura Gogol [Visitor]
*****
Folks, as usual you all fell VICTIM to the wayane traps(land mine) being laid in front you just to divert attention by letting you get agitated for nothing and start shooting evrything that kmoves and arguing bitterly whether homos suck or don't suck.

In the mean time, Wayanes gain the MUCH needed breathing space gather in Sheik Al Amoudi's luxury Sheraton Hotel and plan as to how to develop and sharpen the arts and crafts of increased power grabbing, wholesale virgin fertile farm land grabbing opposition jailing, killing and displacing to enslave the 80 million Ethiopians and liberate wayane minority tiny elites.

But we are talking about liberating or not liberating homosexuals an issue which can be regarded as too GRAND to the homos themselves but too PETITE compared to the problems of liberating or not liberating 80 million Ethiopians.

The tplf minority elites just wanted to soften their face in order to camouflage the 20 years long mass killings of Eritreans, Somalis, Amharas, Oromos,etc,crimes for which they will soon face the International criminal court. Even pink money and pink sympathy will not save them from the coming people's outrage and uprising. So let us unit on the core issue, grow more than our individual sizes and bring about great and new democratic changes.

I don't mind also if the various religious groups get outraged and take to the streets. After all they the GREAT GOD on their side, the great Ethiopians from behind, and the great democracy and liberation from above. Unity and passion is of the essence. The world is the world of all possibilities. The sky is only the limit.

So may I please suggest that we regain our balance and concentrate on the core issues and core national interests.
12/02/11 @ 17:04
Comment from: Proud Eritrean [Visitor]
Bethihu,

You, A*game, can do any thing to please your masters.

If your puppet leader bans it, he will suffer from the beggarism behaviour in his DNA.

No Aid, No money and his leadership will be shortened.

Eventually, we even are not sure if Ethiopia can survive without AID.

Just to remind you,
12/02/11 @ 18:48
Comment from: Hamle [Visitor]
I am not a strong believer. I do not care much about religion or religious leaders. However this is one BIG threat to a largely healthy Society (97%). Homosexuality is unnatural and immoral. Should be stopped at all costs. Gay people are mentally sick and they have to admit that. All they need is medical attention, NOT democracy. They should come forward and get proper counseling.
12/02/11 @ 19:46
Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
@Amhara Princess
Now I know why the bigot, low life, retard who calls her self as Amhara Princess is bitterly opposing the rights of homosexuals. She is a daughter of the bands who were sodomized by Mussolini and his army. How can we expect her to support the homosexuals right when she was brainwashed by the lunatic so called lion of Baldwin who doesn't respect the right of human beings (Eritreans). I am quite sure she would sing halleluyah if Isayas was the one who allows this meeting. I am sorry for your bitterness with woyane. Your anger blinds you to hate homosexual. If you are concerned about rights in Ethiopia, please start your fight for freedom and liberty in your stinky nation Eritrea. I don't this site is Aboy Woldemariam or the lunatic Isayas site. Please stop pretending as an Ethiopians. Go to your ascaris Eritrean sites. If you can hung yourself or swallow a cynide pill. I am not a homosexual and I am not going to lie like your ascaris identity.
The meeting whether you like it or not is going to happen and I pray for those who are hated and perscuted to get peace from god. This is my final post and please stop talking about Ethiopia. Ethiopia is for Ethiopians.
12/02/11 @ 21:52
Comment from: KC [Visitor]
ETIOPIA IS STILL IN THE DARK AGES........
12/02/11 @ 21:58
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
@Qaxxamura Gogol,

What you said is absolutely true. The sad thing is, it happens to us over and over again. This is because the masters of distraction and deception are having the upper hand thanks to our weakness.

Thanks for the reminder and sincere call you made. "May we regain our balance and concentrate on the core issues and core national interests?".

Lets not be distracted by all sorts of fagots' talk!!!

Time to say enough is enough!!!

12/02/11 @ 23:34
Comment from: th [Visitor]
I am amazed at the level of reaction on this topic. Most of you people act like the Iranian leader who got laughed at when he said, we have no gays in Iran. They are not promoting anything, just the facts, GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASS PEOPLE!!!
12/03/11 @ 00:39
Comment from: F.Kebede [Visitor]
If homosexuals are sinners let God worry about it, after all their sin is against God, if they are sick let them come forward and admit they are sick by saying "please I am sick give me treatment" apart from that, who are you and me? to tell them that they have no right to exercises their God given right, to choose what they want to do with themselves, because we think what they want to be doesn't suit our sensitivities, why is that most of you find it hard to accept this basic principle of individual liberty? what do you loose from your life? if the homosexuals are granted equal right by the law. what do you base your objections on? don't tell me our culture or our religion, we have more than four major religions and more than 80 cultures in our country, we as a nation know how to tolerate others even better than many European nations who decriminalised homosexuality, while they are mostly homogeneous cultures, so why cant we accept the fact that homosexuals are part of our society, they also want to be what they want to be without the law discriminating on them, how can we have the courage to speak for freedom? when at the same time wanting to trample on the basic principle of liberty, "respect the choice of others"
12/03/11 @ 06:55
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Solomon

Yeah, it better be your last post because calling me Eritrean is the best shot you have left as you failed to explain:

1- How Ethio kid's intelligence, smartness & confidence would withstand media manipulation/brainwashing.

2- How this is a human rights issue in a country where there is NO human rights at all.

3- You failed to explain Zenawi's intentions when allowing this gathering, clearly showing your empty head.

4- How anybody could possibly impose the natural order to unnatural practice followers. And few other points I have raised i.e. start mirroring constructive ideologies and practices that are major growth determining factors from the west first.

Even westerners have had enough of homosexuals, have every research material under the sun out there to tell you the massive negative impacts of faggotism on society be it rife heath risks, domestic violence, mental illness, promiscuity, social disorder, high intake of drugs, pedophilia etc rampaging the homosexual society (alarmingly higher rate than heterosexuals). I advise you to go & look in to it before trying to encourage it in Ethiopia.

I am neither religious fanatic nor human rights violator/bigot. Having seen the negative implications of it in the western world, I just don't think it is good idea to encourage it in Ethiopia. We also know fags have been around for a while & they are unlikely to disappear. We just want them to keep their affairs to themselves & not brainwash Ethio society just like they did western society by using their upper hand in media, politics, fashion etc fields. I have no doubt that their influence i.e. dirty aid dollar is what lead to this gathering.

... Again, this issue IS NOT about Human rights in Ethiopia, it is about begging, bending to westerner trash. I would also like to take this opportunity to remind you that homosexuality is still criminal offence/illegal/banned officially in Ethiopia and many African countries. Your A*ame leader would have ammended the law before the gathering if he cared about your human rights. Tegbaban?

By the way, as much as I have disagreements with Eritreans, I am 100% with them on what they had to say on this issue. Now, piss off.
12/03/11 @ 07:05
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
To Solomon.
and to all *ick suckers out there,
please wait till we prepare the well where we shall burn all of you unnatural, spoiled "tree-chimps" like you guys.
We shall make " DEMERA" out of you guys burning tied up from a pole at Maskel Square!!!


Death to Homos of the world.
Death to TPLF
12/03/11 @ 10:30
Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
wimp and Princess

i c u r sensitive about the word
"Lady Boys".

[Edited]
12/03/11 @ 11:20
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
Dear wepE,

Thanks love, the likes of Luwam are beyond retarded hiding behind new user name. It is more than obvious that he/she is regular user but coward enough not to use her/his regular user name. Thanks any way, you are star as always. I'm done with Queers lol
12/03/11 @ 11:22
Comment from: Dagnachew Koru [Visitor]
Solomon, Solomon and Solomon!
I swear your dead body talking, what you can say while you are hiding behind the cyber. Go and try in Addis, also you are not Ethiopian fagot but you are from somewhere, seriously try in Addis?
Why don't you go there? Can you show us your brave modern stinky ass in Addis?
Eyangualele ale zefagnu?
12/03/11 @ 12:54
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
amhara princess,...

You stupid gimbot7 activist, you're allwayes about your own fragile ego.
You come out with some arguement, theh when you lose, you sort with all kinds of denial, dishonesty, and lies.
The confrence in Addis Ababa is not about homosexuality, it is about health awareness and to help the ongoing campain of eradicating the one time world crisis AIDS and other STDs. We are expecting as many as 10,000 people from all over the world.
Addis Ababa was selected out of 4 top Afrcan cities including Johansberg S.A.
We were blessed to have this chance of hosting this confrence, not by talking nonesense like you and the rest of loosers, who are determined to cry foul no matter how our gov't is perfect. Do we need any approval from amhara priceass. [Edited]Not in a million years.
Just shut your hole and stay in your closet. Looser!!
12/03/11 @ 13:10
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
The verbal abuser and mother of all fagots, Solomon, finally lost the argument and gave up. One fagot down, many more to go.

It sounds he said to him self, not again in the name of King Solomon. The wise king was the greatest womanizer of all times. Unlike his new version, "Solomon", he knew where his manhood goes in.

With this, I also rest my case. As Qaxxamura Gogol said, it is time to "Regain our balance and concentrate on the core issues and core national interests?".

Let's not be distracted by fagot-talking of any kind!!!!






12/03/11 @ 13:14
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
The notorious ancient Biblical cities – Gomorrah and Sodom – still exist in our cities, towns and villages, and there is no way out of them like righteous Lot who got out of them unharmed because of God’s help. As far as we are following the evil practices of those ancient cities, we all of us are doomed.

12/03/11 @ 13:49
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Amhara Princes: You are the true daughter of Christian Ethiopia, and I am proud of you for defending the purity of the Ethiopian cultures from foreign intruders who want to pollute our God-given gift: marriage between a man and a woman.

Solomon: You are indeed a shirt lifter, and Amhara Princess is absolutely right in calling you “moronic fagot.”
12/03/11 @ 19:15
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Homosexuality, with all its filthiness, has been officially practiced in the western world, and such an evil and ungodly practice, foreign to the Christian land of Ethiopia, has always been condemned by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, defender of the Ethiopian Christian cultures, traditions, norms and moralities.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, with its millions of Christian followers at home and abroad, has the absolute power to slough off all these undesirable western endoparasites and ectoparasites – the homosexuals, the host of various sexually transmitted diseases, such as chlamydi, gonorrhea, syphilis, trichomonas, genital herpes, hepatitis B and hepatitis C, human immunodeficiency (HIV), and many other incurable diseases.

To completely wipe out the bad behaviors of the homosexuals, carriers and breeders of the sexually transmitted diseases, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church needs neither the permission of the Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Meles Zenawi, nor the cooperation of the Ethiopian Muslims, the Ethiopian Evangelical Christians, the Ethiopian Catholic Christians, the Ethiopian Pentecostal Christians, and the Ethiopian Jews. Those foreign missionaries are partly to blame for tolerating homosexuality, the daily practices of the sexually pervert people.

Since the introduction of homosexuality to Ethiopia by Ethiopian enemies, two types of homosexuality have been detected in the Ethiopian societies: forced homosexuality and consented homosexuality.

Mostly, poor Ethiopian children are induced to a forced homosexuality by some foreign agents, and such destitute Ethiopian children finally end up with an incurable sexually transmitted disease, and no one will take care of them. For few months, these poor children who carry the HIV virus will live with their poor parents, and within a year they will definitely die.

Consented homosexuality between two adult male and adult female is offensive in the eyes of the Almighty God as the Holy Bible clearly states: “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads” (Leviticus 20:13). And there is no doubt those who behave like animals, unless they repent and become normal human beings, will be condemned to eternal death as the Holy Book of Jude warns us: In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire” (1:17). The Book of Genesis 19:4-7 tells us explicitly the bestial behaviors of pervert people in Sodom and Gomorrah: “Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.”

Of course, the Apostle Paul did not tolerate the sexually abusive behaviors of the citizens of Rome, Italy, when he wrote his letter to the Roman citizens: “Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error” (Romans 1:24-27).

Deeply involved in the gimmick doctrine of Interfaith for the sake of tolerance at the expense of the purity of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church teaching, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church Fathers should not allow foreign and homegrown homesexuals to officially have a conference in the holy land of Christian Ethiopia. It is shocking to announce to the Ethiopian people and tell them that on such and such a day there will be a homosexual conference in the capital city of the Ethiopian Christians.

To hide the offensiveness of the homosexual abnormalities, westerners call such practices “sexual preferences” or “sexual orientations” instead of calling them sexual deviations. We Ethiopians, with the rest of African states, except South Africa, Chad, and Gabon where homosexuality is legal, abhor and condemn homosexuality and those who practice it, the homosexual communities, the communities of beasts and devils.

The teaching of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, concerning sex, is crystal clear: The Church denounces same-sex union; the Church blesses the marriage between a man and a woman, and the Church recommends for those not called to marriage, sexual abstinence as the right way, a better way than sexual promiscuities.


I wish nazret.com would print my other detailed comment on this subject – homosexuality – which has been a taboo in the Ethiopian societies for many years; even the Ethiopian monasteries have not been free from this carnal disease.
12/03/11 @ 20:00
Comment from: gRAGN AHMED [Visitor]
WHAT WHAT,
I SEE THAT YOU ARE AMONG THE FEW. what I see is the Church is trying to dictate every conversation. But we Muslims should not be silent by the century old exclusion. We have to voice our opinion in matters of non religous issues as well as Ethiopians. We are part of that country and my gret grand fathers bleeded to keep that country a safe place to live.

12/03/11 @ 23:33
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Amhara princess,...

You stinky prostitute, if you're really sensetive about your religion, why don't you tell us about those catholic christain priests sexully abusing their altar boys for years in this day and age? Tinbatam shermuta!!
12/03/11 @ 23:54
Comment from: ONE WAY [Visitor]
@ Amhara Princess ...I agree with u % 100 on the issue and I don't want to go out of the topic neither...but I just don't understand why u choose this Nick name and tryin show ur tribe...isn't Ethiopian princess better? Anyways my all idea on this topic is 100 years from now all countries in this world approve homosexuality and faggs will sing their anthem. But why? Well already Hollywood, musicians and Western media celebratin the idea so the whole world follows them (especially the youth) . For most ppl living in 3rd world everything "ferenge" does is good since they are developed.That's the mentality.the fact is the west is morally sinking and ppl need to choose the good from bad and educate ourselves!
12/04/11 @ 00:20
Comment from: ted [Visitor]
To Mesfin B.
You ignorant barbarian.Can you Listen to yourself talk? Which psych ward do you reside at? Good thing people like you dont have any power. With such kind of rants,
You are an embarassement to all Ethiopians.
"God, Please protect me from some of your followers"
12/04/11 @ 00:36
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Rotten Zemen

You are one shameless, morally, ethically, intellectually, economically corrupt unpaid, beggar cadre who keep repeating the same old, tired swearwords on N.com without making a goddamn sense. At least, Solomon & few other wanna be queer activists are smart enough to put a valid argument forward, give it what they got. Only there is ZERO human rights in Ethiopia to begin with & they failed to realize the evil intentions of beggar Zenawi to support their arguments.

You being a brick head old man come here to lie, spit trash as usual. As I said many times to you, your inability to comprehend a simple written English i.e. (article above) and debate intelligently with others is astounding. Your kids must be taken away before they become dull, dishonest, vulgar air heads, boring doormats like you. You really are a sad excuse for an old Ethiopian man!

... Putting aside your trashy insults, coming back to your tired point, can you read where the article clearly states this gay gathering is NOT on the same day as the HIV conference? If they were part of the conference, they would be attending on the same day!! If your beggar Zenawi cared for Homo's human rights, he would have amended/scrapped his law where homosexuality is STILL illegal in Ethiopia. Your beggar master is importing these fags under the cover of Aids conference because they paid him good to stash away, simple as. Ethiopia won the right to host Africa's Aids conference NOT Africa's Homosexual gathering. You need to brush on your basic reading & comprehending skills, I believe your kids might be of great help on that regard. I have no doubt they outsmart their rusty, dysfunctional vulgar father. When people get bald, they only lose their hair, it seems you lost your brain cells with your hair.

Ante Balege Kelal ye Mender Shimagile. Erasihin Kemakalel Ena Kemawared Lela Minim Yametahew Neger Yelem Ezi. Koshasha

12/04/11 @ 02:31
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Amhara princess,...

One can tell you're a gered who grew up resenting those rich elites who hired you while being molested by the kullys in your mom's tella bet.
That miserable life of yours is what made you so bitter and hate Ethiopia to call yourself amhara princess, and keep insulting Ethiopians whenever you get a chance.
Whenever I read your comment, I see you as that same cheap yemender gered, who's followed by durye male suiters, or that yemender set wusha followed by stray dogs. In this case here, you're still followed by those looser weeping old dogs, on every thread, salivating for your attention, while you keep trying to entice and seduce anybody out there, to fantasize in your lonely pathetic life.
12/04/11 @ 07:11
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
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@ Rotten Zemen aka clueless geriatric

Ayyyyii Ante Yematreba Mozaza Sewyeee :) It seems like you may have been raised by Shermu** mother & drunken useless Tela Bet fixture father the way you are going on, choice of words & what you have become. Stay on the freakin' topic, will ya? Obviously, even a spastic can see that you are not capable of disproving my points here as it is not posted for a brainless, useless weyane a$$wipe.

First of, I am NO Goddamn Catholic, Pentecostal, or whatever the hell else denomination. You can count up to my 10 generation & you won't find anything else but 100% Orthodox Christian with the exception of couple of Muslims through marriages. Don't you dare push Catholicism towards me gimp. Also, may I remind you that those catholic priests are mostly homosexuals/pedophiles hence my debate here!!!! You are proving my point without even realizing it. Doma.

Secondly, all my posts above have absolutely nothing to do with religion with the exception of 2nd response to Solomon's disrespect of the elderly leaders. Even that is NOT as a religious fanatic but out of respect for those elderly religious figures, their masses & religions. As you know, the ever hated, shady, worldly disgraceful Patriarch is NOT somebody I personally want to defend rather the faith itself.

1- Disprove my points
2- Stay on topic
3- Your trashy vocabulary reflects your personality, upbringing/ background and who you are (a useless low level unpaid cadre).
4- You are the dumbest, useless, clueless, brainless, soulless Nazreteer I have communicated with, even the vulgar weyanes outsmart your old trashy self by million fold.

Lastly, if you can't debate like the other queer activists, you need to STHU & MYOB. Let those who have the ability to put a valid point across communicate. You really are a WOS.

12/04/11 @ 08:00
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
Dear Amhara Princess: No problem. Just showing appreciation for your honest and kind words/ideas concerning mama Ethiopia, besides you're one of the very few in here who knows how to put these people in place (hence the sole star) and it doesn't pass unnoticed.

Zelan - tard of a weeping old dog: Would you mind your filthy queer language or if possible fuck off? What's all about rushing to the risk of facing a large amount of embarrassment? Sticking your zelzala neck out and insult people like damned filthy ghetto fag? You into some kind self inflicted mind torture tard? Because if you expect people to be nice when you insult them your dead wrong, you'll have your response accordingly.

Having cleared that out for your dumb skull, you need to get this straight through your thick bone for a brain: She doesn't need me to defend her or otherwise respond on her behalf, she can perfectly handle anyone at any level and has always manged to shove you and your kind in your rightful corner every SINGLE time you released your vomit entwined with your rude disgusting venom. If I do step in though, it's only because I know something your fucking dumbass don't or the hater she debates is accusing (lying) nazret of taking sides. Those are the rules my dear chiwawa. In fact now I think about it, you're jealous because we don't have to insult each other to talk like normal human beings, that's probably because we agree on many of issues raised here but we ARE two different individuals and occasionally disagree but we don't possess your bad habits of jumping on each other like a fucking mental case to address our disagreements. Were you seeking her attention when you tried your best to befriend her couple of weeks a ago and got turned down? Listen you dirtbag for the rest of us, the internet is just what it is, and especially this particular site is a tool for people to communicate with each and it ends there. You liksks wendagered should go find your male partner somewhere else, in stead of labeling the Princess a guy one minute and a girl the next. This not a place for a pick up, date or get a squeeze or whatever. If your sole purpose is to find your male mate for the night I suggest you hit the clubs (I'll promise to pray for your horse face to pass through) I've also heard about dating sites and you're very welcome to visit those if you're worried children might run away in the presence of your scary face when stepping out side of your weyane home.
12/04/11 @ 08:52
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
*****
@ Rotten Zemen

By the way, I have NO shame to say that thanks to my honorable, hardworking, well educated, balanced family/generation, I grew up in the MOST comfortable circumstances one can ever imagine/wish for. I went to the finest schools, traveled all over from the age of 5, speak 3 European languages including English of course. All these while I was still living in Ethiopia of course hence zero resentment towards a single soul especially for luxury, money, education etc thank you very much. That said, who are you actually referring to as Elites? Weyanes? LMAO. "Sew Tira Bilut Erasu Meta" Alu my fellow Addis folks. Opposing weyane/TPLF doesn't equate to hate/bitterness. It is called speaking the truth.

... Again Mr shrink, stay on topic. (You will be crying foul/bragging other wise). It is more than obvious that you can't even tell your a$$ from your shiny bald head let alone People profiling. Spare us :) Kebero Ras.

12/04/11 @ 08:56
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
The weeping old dog and amhara wanna be princess,..

You two fit to one another. As a matter of fact. Wepe was one of the clients in the tella bet the wanna be princess' mom used to run.
Without realising it you're on a process of re-union. Congrat, especially to the wanna be princess, who is suffering from dipression in a lonely planet.
12/04/11 @ 09:37
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
Zelan - tard of a weeping old dog: You're one stupid roach. What the hell is your problem? It's like you wan't me to repeat my comment word by word, you addicted to hurtful words, wendagered? If so go back and read it again, i won't bother to copy/past but FYI i can't even stand Tela or alcohol in general let alone visit Tela bet which is where you spent bigger part of your childhood.
12/04/11 @ 11:40
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
The greatest challenge to the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church has finally arrived, and this great challenge is how to deal with some Ethiopian homosexuals and others. Very soon these Ethiopian homosexuals are going to request the Woyanne government to allow them to get married in one of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Churches. When the Woyanne government gives its blessings to the homosexuals to get married in one of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Churches, what is Aba Paulos, Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, going to say to the order that has come to him from the Prime Minister, Meles Zenawi? Is he going to ignore the order and respect, instead, the word of God that says marriage is between one man and one woman?

When a worldly spiritual father is deeply involved in worldly materials, there is no other way except to please his secular master, Meles Seitanawi, who brought him to power and prominence rather than to please the Almighty God, who wants any sinners, homosexuals or murderers, to repent and come clean. I am sure; Aba Paulos follows what Meles says rather than what God says, and this is the great dilemma for the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church under Aba Paulos, who ignores one of Christ’s teachings: “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money” (Matthew 6:24).

If I were in Aba Paulos’ shoe, I would ignore Meles’ urgent command to allow homosexuals to get married in the Church or to allow homosexual gatherings to be held in Addis Ababa. Aba Paulos must either please Meles or displease Christ; or he must displease Meles and please Christ by taking Paul’s position: “Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ” (Galatians 1:10).

Aba Paulos must choose between pleasing Christ and displeasing Meles; if he displeases Meles, he (Aba Paulos) may probably lose his job, but he will get Christ’s blessings in heaven. In fact, Jesus asks his audiences the following mind-boggling question: “What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self? (Luke 9:25)

As the illegitimate or legitimate head of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, Aba Paulos must proclaim publicly the positions of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church to all the Ethiopia Christians that homosexuality is sin and homosexuals should not be allowed to convene in the Ethiopian capital city, Addis Ababa.

Are homosexuals the only sinners? No, we all are sinners in the eyes of the Almighty God “for” Solomon, the King of ancient Israel, attested when he was dedicating the Great Temple he had built for God “there is no one who does not sin…” (1st Kings 8:46).

When I see a homosexual person, I don’t want to talk to him; I don’t want to eat with him, and I don’t want to work with him. On the other hand, if I don’t want to talk to him, how am I going to persuade him to change his life styles and his sexual orientation and become a “straight man” like me and like many others? In this case, I should not avoid him, shy away from him, demonize him, and dub him a filthy person. On this critical issue of disparaging others, St. Peter advises his followers: “He said to them: ‘You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean’” (Acts 10:28).

Therefore, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church must be very clear and very careful in dealing with the Ethiopian homosexuals. She cannot reject them or deny they don’t exist in Ethiopia: they are everywhere in the modern schools, in the Church schools, in the universities, in the hospitals, in the Mosques, in the Synagogues, in the monasteries, and even in the Menelik II Palace.

The Church must train special clergies or priests and send them out with a special mission to the lost souls – the homosexuals. Such well-trained clergies could bring thousands of Ethiopian homosexuals to the family of straight or heterosexual men and women within a few years, and, of course, at a high cost and self sacrifice.

In order to limit the number of future Ethiopian homosexuals, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church must teach the following Biblical instructions to her members every Sunday morning and in all secular and religious schools:

1. Leviticus 20:13 —“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
2. Jude 1:17 — “In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding town gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They were as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”
3. Genesis 19:4-7 — “Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom–both young and old–surrounded the house. They called to Lot. ‘Where are the men who came who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, ‘No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.’”
4. Romans 1:24-27 is also very important to read to the people who listen.

Homosexuality in Ethiopia starts at an early age without the knowledge of most of the Ethiopian parents. Eager to discover and experiment what sex is, some Ethiopian young boys at age ten or above experiment sex among each others; they have no clue it will become later in their lives a habit, and at that a bad one that would destroy their marriages and their bodies, if they, as homosexuals, get infected with the deadly disease – the HIV. Parents can safeguard their children from homosexuality by openly talking to them the bad side effect of homosexuality and the dignity of marriage between a man and a woman.

Man is a sophisticated animal: When there is no women around him, he experiments sex with another man; when there is no another man around him, he experiments sex with animals, and when there is no animals near by him, experiments sex with inanimate objects. What is man?

Puzzled by the complexity of man, whether he is a homosexual or a heterosexual, the Psalmist asked that question: “what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?” (Psalms 8:4)

Understanding the weaknesses of man, the righteous Job asks God the following question: “Do you fix your eye on such a one? Will you bring him before you for judgment?” (Job 14:3)

Is the modern man, the Internet man, the computer man, better in pleasing God than the Noah’s Ark man, the Ninevites’ man or the Bubble Tower’s man? What is man who does so many good things and so many evil things on this earth in his short journey?
12/04/11 @ 11:48
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
The weeping old dog,...

Yachi "amhara wanna be princess" chirawan eyeqolach endante ayinet likiskiss wusha eyetebeqech new. Go ahead hump her!!
12/04/11 @ 12:16
Comment from: ikissedamanandilikedit [Visitor]
i am straight. i just kissed a man and i liked it. Gays rock!
12/04/11 @ 12:27
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
Zealn - tard of a weeping old dog: If I'm wusha you're the waste a wusha leaves behind i.e. number two or a tard. You're the liksks, you're the zelzala, the wendagered, the one who's drooling all over this site to 'hump' anyone irrespective of male or female. Just admit that you love her to max but life is life and you're not even qualified to shine her shoes.
12/04/11 @ 12:30
Comment from: ONE WAY [Visitor]
***--
@ Amhara Princess

1st...well it seem like u r the so called ''educated'' abesha livin in the west. But from ur nick name and the way u speak about ur 100% ortodox'' purity make me think u r probably the daugther of minilik, yohannes & haileselase who think Amhara is the Master Race and Ortodox is the Religion ethiopians have to follow. Well thanks for Woyanes they changed that mentality a bit in the last two decades eventhough their intention is evil.And ppl in ethiopia will never go back to the 1 religion, 1 language, and 1 master race ideology.Thats why kinijet dead.After woyanes fall ethiopia either will create a government which represents from all race , language and cultures or will be like somalia.

2ND... I think u the first person i see here cursing people and tried to back up the reason behind ur vulgar.Claming that cursing woyanes will stop the gibresedom movement and shut the faggs...besak


@ Addis zemen

How much woyanes pay u every month to talk trash on here? History showed us again and again that there are people who supports the evil governments no matter how they torture and kill innocents as long as they got something to fill their belly.We saw that even in the recent Arab Spring clashes.In addition when u r run out of woyanes' scriptu started spitting garbage and showed ur ur real identity even more.

I have an idea why dont u show urself on ethiopian garbage television and say ''im the first geberesedomawi''? so that u will help woyanes better. Obviously u r making woyanes look bad and blood suckers.
12/04/11 @ 12:37
Comment from: Lost Nomad [Visitor]
There is a lot of false debate here. Solomon and those who talk about the 'rights' of individuals forget that those 'rights' are defined by the prevalent and accepted social and political norms of any given society. The West may tolerate homosexuality as individual right, but you probably know many countries ban women from wearing veils. That is because they think it doesn't fit their cultural orientation and socio-political persuasion. The prevailing moral precept in Ethiopia is strongly against homosexuality and hence Ethiopians are right to reject this foreign culture. Solomon, simply because you imbibed western values doesn't mean they are fit-all and should be applied to all societies.

Wepe,

Greetings son of the proud Abysinnia.
12/04/11 @ 13:40
Comment from: ikissedamanandilikedit [Visitor]
Oh ... Dear me! Amhara princess put everyone in their place!
12/04/11 @ 14:35
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
Season's Greeting to all .
I like to extend my ultimate wish on this site.
May the moderator of Nazret.Com
bring my 2012 wish of blocking all those weyane writers as well as those shabia Eriboys ?
With this said, any habesha for united Ethiopia can blog including those pro-Ethiopia Eritreans to have our motherland once again and heal all the wounds and march to build our nation.

I would love to see the departure of The Tyrant EPRDF and eventually reuniting back the Eritreans with the mainland.
መቸም እትዮጵያዊ ሁሉ ምኞቱ አገራችን በልጽጋ ረሃብ ጠፍቶ እርዛት በሽታ በታሪክ ብቻ የምናውሳቸው ነገሮች እንዲሆኑ ነው ::
በዚህ በ በአላት ሰሞን ጥሩ ጥሩ ምኞቶችን ስናስብ የጋራ ጠላቶቻችን ተደምሠው በ ህብረት መላው እትዮጵያን እንደምንገነባ ማሰባችን አይቀርም::

መልካም በአል ለሁላችን ይሁን ::
12/04/11 @ 15:43
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
ONE WAY, the dick head,...

Why don't you come up with your own agenda instead of trying to be a neutral MF?
You're probably one of those asshole shabians, but this time you changed your song and user name and start praising the woyanes. Well, it is better that way you might be able to see the reality and stop fantasizing your sing a poor bla bla and kneel down.

12/04/11 @ 16:35
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ ONE WAY

What is your point? Who died and made you a referee here?

1- 100% Orthodox means I have nothing to do with Catholics or other denominations as implied by this Ye Shimagle Durye. Nothing to do with superiority, rather fact. What is the problem? How did you even figure out that I believe Ethiopia should be ruled by one tribe and Must follow Orthodox religion in the 21st century?

2- Emperor Yohaness was Tigray, HIM was Oromo, Gurage, Tigre & Amhara mix, Minilik Was Part Oromo too so your assumption is pretty much skewed NOT to mention way out of topic.

3- Mengistu H Mariam changed the biased way of thinking, tribal superiority, bad practices, monarchy system etc NOT Zenawi & Co. Don't give them credit when it NOT due. All they did is create an even more evil/biased system. As far as I am aware, there is only one official/national language still. I don't see Meles & Co speaking Tigrigna in parliament or anywhere else for that matter.

4- The very meaning of Kinijit (unity) means multi ethnic/party/ group not just ONE. I have no idea why you are implying Kinijit was just one tribe.

All in all, if you are trying to criticize constructively, you are most welcome, I suggest it is best you do that with facts eh? My user name doesn't make me tribal. It is just a user name, not a green light for you to go on & on about Amharas which are actually 2nd largest, most diversified & mixed tribes of Ethiopia. As you can see, only vulgar folks get negative response out of me so stay in topic or have your facts ready before venturing into uncharted territories. Tegbaban?

@ Rotten Zemen

Run out of things to say eh? This is a decent Ethiopian news website with countless decent participants. I never noticed anybody using it inappropriately in the few months that I've been here except few jokers, even those are funny folks not perves like you. You are all over the place. From unpaid cadre to queer activist, Tela Bet fixture Tesadabi. From fortune teller to shrink, Perve etc. You lost your marbles Mr Shrink. Hit the tranquilizer and stay calm. Calma Calma :):)
12/04/11 @ 17:40
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Amhara princess,...

Anchi set ----, as long as you don't stop insulting Ethiopians and Ethiopian govt, that's what you desrve.
You and the rest of wanna be oppo politicians including your idol almaria have sorted out only to come up with insults, lies, and trash talks. So how do you expect any decency?
12/04/11 @ 19:03
Comment from: wepE [Member] Email
Lost Nomad: You remind of someone very wise I know in this site. Like the sentiment coming with your pen name, son of the proud East Africa ;-)

12/04/11 @ 19:06
Comment from: AGAZI WOMAN [Visitor]
Eever since i came on this site i have being warning the young ethiopia youth not to forget the following

ANCIENT ETHIOPIA RELIGOUS
TRADITIONS
CULTURES
LANGUAGE
NATIVE MUSIC
AND WAYS OF LIFE...

We ethiopians have many issues to address such as poverty and others that are urgent concerns for our citizens.

The father of democracy nations such as u.s.a and europe are struggling with this immorality of homosexualities.

But some scumbag ethiopians and ANTI ETHIOPIA on this webSITE are promoting ,echoing anything ,prescribing anything for poverty stricken ethiopians.

Shame on all of you who embrace anything foreign with out doing analytical research.

Shame on all of you promoting anything that will harm ethiopia society before you even wipe your own dirty ass.

I have warned all of you about embracing foreign cult religous like PENTE,CATHOLIC,EVANGILSTS who use the bible as a cover to have sex anything that walks by them.

I have given you my advice to embrace your true identity,even though you scumbags keep calling me names on this site.

This issue have a lot to do with the majority of 99% ethiopians morethan it does with religon,or government.

Whether they held the gathering or not would not be the first or the last until ethiopians start embracing thier own culture,identiy,traditions and technology.

It is vital to guide the young ethiopian youth from this ill problems.

We are dirt poor countries,thats why the wealthy nations are imposing,supporting pentes,evangilsts to carry out this type of immoral practices under the guise of the bible.

Just read how many members of the pentes,evangilist,catholics,priests,perishners have being caught rapping having sex with men and young children.

This is a public secret,unless we address the fundemantal core problems just getting angry over the so called gathering will not solve the problems from the root.

Ethiopia have much greater social,economic,problems that we all ethiopians have to address first and formost.

We ethiopians suffering from many foreign invaders by protestant,catholic,islamists sponsor countries we had sufferd too long by this.

And the country attention should be on development and united ethiopia to address the needs of the citizens.

Lets not be the laughing stock of the world wasting our precious time on stupid topic that is not urgent.

Those of you promoting ,prescribing anything for ethiopia ask your selves and do the following

am i eating 3 time a day?
am i taking shower once a month?
am i changing close once a month?
am i surrounded by poverty?
and etc etc that you need to address before opening your dirty mouth.

Empower ethiopia culture!
12/04/11 @ 19:10
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Bluesky (visitor),

It was not Tobit who said what you wrote: it was Confucius who said (about 400 B.C. before Christ): “Do not do unto others what you would not want others to do unto you.” This was Confucius’ Golden Rule.
12/04/11 @ 19:13
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Addis Zemen

Hahahaaha! Ante Sewyee Ere Bakihh? Tinish Atafrim Ende? Tilik Sewyee Aydelehim ende?

A lot of decent folks read your posts, better stop embarrassing yourself, being a liar. You really made me laugh this time. Me? Talking Trash? Insulting Ethiopians? Hahahaa! You got some jokes man. Can you remember a single occasion when I insulted you or even initiated a dialog (Positive or negative) with you or fellow cadres FIRST? NO. NOT even in 0.00001% of my posts. You do all the insults FIRST after reading my posts opposing/ridiculing your master and ya'll end up crying foul when you get slapped.

... Oh, sorry if I offended the so called 99.6% elected looters & their cadres. Is that what you mean by insulting Ethiopians? ROFL. You really need to leave my Prof Al the hell alone for he is one of the most intelligent, shining star Ethiopians alive. What you call insult is a challenging, visionary, sophisticated, highly educated brain/idea opposing your looters aka Prof Al. What we call insult is Tela Bet lingo i.e. Sher****, who**, sl** etc cheap & nasty words you are very comfortable using.

As you'd probably realized by now, I am a tough cookie. Your insults mean NOTHING. In fact, the more you insult me, the more I picture you as that famous middle aged, bald CLOWN FERDINAND hence the laughter. If you don't know him, ask your kids to show you. Spitting image of you that I have in my head :)

Thanks for the laugh N.zom ... Damn!
12/04/11 @ 20:11
Comment from: dambala oda [Visitor]
The hipocracy of all of you makes me sick. I am not condoning homosexual behavior. GOD will be the judge.

But, all of you to look so hurt , as if the country;s immorality just began, shows how myopic and closed minded you are.

Where were you when prostitution is rampant in the country and young girls are sold on the street for pennies? Where where you when such behavior is lead to escourage of AIDS which made our coutry the fast growing HIV case in the world.

STOP your selective outrage. immorality is immorality is immorality. IT is not for you to list sins in order of importance.

By show of hand, how many of you paid for prostitutes? IDIOTS.

Those islamic and so called christian religious leaders have skeleton in their closet.

From here in the US, we have realized that the most loud oponents of HOMOSEXUALITY, turned out to be homo theselves.

I hate it when you describe Ethiopia as land of morality. Love my country. But, for long, lots of killing, corruption, prostitution, adultery, greed, going on. all of them equally immoral.

I hate it when "Jebena" calls " mixad" immoral.


12/04/11 @ 20:43

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