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On the Current Muslim Protests in Ethiopia
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On the Current Muslim Protests in Ethiopia
File Photo: Ethiopian Muslims protest against government interference in religious matters at Ethiopia's Anwar Grand Mosque
On the Current Muslim Protests in Ethiopia
Source: GulelePost
- A Conversation between Jenny Vaughan of AFP & Alemayehu Fenatw of the LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas
Jenny Vaughan: What does the government’s response to the Muslim protests tell you about religious tolerance among the ruling regime in Ethiopia?
Alemayehu Fentaw: What’s going on in Ethiopia is a reflection of what’s happening in the West. Fears of terrorism in the West have deteriorated into an irrational suspicion of Muslims, which will continue until the West turns its critical eye inwards. Since Ethiopia is a critical partner in the US war on terror, its government thinks it helps to appear terrified by the prospect of the rise of Islamism and an improbable takeover of governmental power by political Islam. That way, Ethiopia hopes to keep Western aid flowing into the country.
Fear with no basis in evidence leads to dubious actions such as the one the Government of Ethiopia is engaged in. It’d be irrational to dismiss the fear of Islamic terrorism, given that a country has had a history of Islamic terrorism. When it comes to Ethiopia, nonetheless, that fear is irrational in the light of its recent past and current events. Rational fear ought to guide sensible public policy. It’s simply absurd to believe that all Muslims are fiends in disguise. Look at the protests. The authorities make no distinction in disappointing the Muslim community based on sects. They are being intolerant generally of all Muslims without distinction, and all of this because of a bad public policy.
There’s no doubt that the Ethiopian Muslim community has been radicalized, not in the sense that it has a political agenda, but in the sense that it has attained a higher degree of religious consciousness and hence become aware of it particularistic identity far more than it used to be in the past. And in light of events that took place in North Africa and the Middle East that came to be known as the Arab Spring, it can be safely assumed that the authorities are being haunted by fear of an ‘Ethiopian Spring’. As you can see, that fear of a possible ‘Ethiopian Spring’ has resulted not only in the current crackdown on the media and the opposition, but also on the Muslim community. Ethiopia has increasingly become intolerant of Islam.
Jenny Vaughan: Do Muslims in Ethiopia pose a legitimate (extremist) threat to the country and region?
Alemayehu Fentaw: There’s very little evidence to support the claim that Ethiopian Muslims pose a legitimate threat to national and regional security. However, there’s a universal consensus among analysts worth the name that Somalia and Sudan are exporters not only of political Islam, but also of Islamic terrorism. This again is not a universal claim about Muslims in Ethiopia. There could be individual Muslim proselytizers bent on using violence. There were a few incidents of violence, but it takes an independent commission to investigate into the claims. I don’t personally buy the government’s claims.
Jenny Vaughan: Some members of the Muslim community say there is no real government pressure to impose Al-Ahbash, while others say the imposition is indeed there and unconstitutional. In your assessment, do you think the government is legitimately trying to impose the sect?
Alemayehu Fentaw: The Muslim community is claiming in unison that there’s uncalled-for governmental interference in the internal affairs of Ethiopian Muslims. To that extent and to the extent that secularism is a constitutionally enshrined principle of governance, the interference is unacceptable. Therefore, any sponsorship by the government of a religious sect over others or any attempt of privileging one religion over another is illegitimate, be it Al-Ahbash or Wahabi. But this is not to divest the government of its legitimate authority to neutralize security threats as they arise and recognizing the threshold requires not only good public policy and laws, but also responsible enforcement. If the government feels like Al-Ahbash, it has to leave the task of propagating it to the faith-based nongovernmental organizations, rather than tasking the Ministry of Federal Affairs with a non-governmental mandate. The problem is the government has already legislated the civil society out of existence. Evangelists or what have you could also do some work, but thanks to the charities legislation, their activities are constrained.
Jenny Vaughan: Will the government’s relationship with Muslim community change now that Hailemariam Desalegn has taken over as PM?
Alemayehu Fentaw: It seems to me the replacement of a Marxist Prime Minister by a Protestant Prime Minister would not do much in realigning the Muslim community with the government. What is crucial is putting in place a sensible public policy, competent public service, and proper enforcement, which is badly wanting in Ethiopia today.
Jenny Vaughan: Do you think there is potential for protests to grow and threaten government? Or will they go away now that council elections are over?
Alemayehu Fentaw: The protests will surely grow so much so that the government becomes too frustrated to handle the situation. But, I don’t expect them to resort to violent means in the course of their protests. My fear is that the government will eventually resort to more force than is warranted under the circumstances. And you never know what will happen after that.
The protests won’t go away easily. They will stick there as far as the protesters demands are not met. It’s too stupid to think that they’ll go away once the Majlis elections are over. And I guess that’s what the authorities are thinking.
Jenny Vaughan: What should the government response to protesters’ demands be?
Alemayehu Fentaw: Cessation of interference and making a gesture towards meeting their demands is the solution. And the first step would be to release the imprisoned elected leaders of the Muslim community and conduct the election of the members of the Majlis in the mosques rather than the kebeles. Finally, it has to stop sponsoring the propagation of Ahbashism at the expense of other sects of Islam as long as the Wahabis or whatever you call them respects the constitution and other laws of the land.
The government has also to stop using the current Islamic protests to crackdown on political dissent emanating from whether within the ruling coalition or the opposition from the largely Muslim constituency found in much of south Ethiopia.
The government’s interference has been totally unacceptable and served as a recipe for conflict. And to continue to interfere in the internal affairs of the Muslim community will do more harm than good.
Jenny Vaughan: Anything you’d like to add?
Alemayehu Fentaw: If there’s anything I’d like to add, Islamic militancy posed a threat to Ethiopia’s national security at different times in the remote past. … But, the gravest of all the threats came with the advent of Ahmad Gran. In all instances, it was a reaction to oppression by the Christian State. But Islamic revivalism, which is positive in itself, and radicalism, which is undesired and a spillover effect, came as a result of the sacralization of identity politics, which is not such a bad idea in and of itself. So radicalism is one thing, but militancy is different. The threat, which as yet is not clear and present, does not emanate from radicalization (which is purely religious, not political), but from the embrace of political Islam and its concomitant militancy. The threat emanating from radicalization in my view does not call for direct government intervention. It would have been adequately addressed by civil society organizations. (Wait a minute; let me ask you just for once: do you believe that the current interference by the government is justified?) So what’s lacking? As you might already have suspected, what absent is a vibrant civil society organizations, including religion-based and inter-faith NGOs working in the area of peace and reconciliation. Alas, they were legislated out of existence by the government.
Aiga published this provocative article following the peaceful conclusion of the Majlis elections and the passing of a Jum’a without protests in Addis, albeit the protests took place in mosques in some rural areas. A conversation I had with inside sources, however, indicate that Eid is only a week from today and hence it’s a little too soon for any triumphalist celebration by the government. A cable news reporter, whose identity I can’t disclose for security reasons, surmised the Muslim protesters seem to be suffering from “strategic indecision”, which was also confirmed to me by inside sources. I for one wish to warn the authorities against uncalled-for provocations. http://aigaforum.com/articles/the-election-that-broke-extermist-backbone.pdf
Jenny Vaughan: As you know, many Muslim protestors accuse the government of appointing teachers and preachers to promote al Ahbash in schools and mosques. The government denies this. What I am wondering is who is normally responsible for the appointment of clerics and/or teachers in mosques and schools–does that task fall to the Islamic Council or simple the local Muslim community?
Alemayehu Fentaw: The Awoliyah Muslim Mission School, belonged since 1993 to the Islamic charitable agency known as International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), and has been linked to the Saudi-controlled World Muslim League. Therefore, it’s the responsibility of the management of the school, and not the government, to hire and fire teachers and Islamic scholars. However, this is not to deny the government’s responsibility to supervise charitable organizations. It seems that Ethiopian authorities consider it to be a breeding ground for radical Muslims, whom they refer to as “salafi-jihadists,” “Wahabi-Salafists,” and what not. I think there’s too much securitization of the matter on part of the government.
In Ethiopia Islam has been institutionally speaking decentralized, albeit the Islamic Affairs’ Supreme Council (Majlis), formally established in 1976, enjoys a degree of officialdom and its chairman is considered by the government as “representative of the entire Muslim community” and accorded the same courtesies as the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, Bishop of the Catholic Church, and Head of the Protestant Churches in public ceremonials. Therefore, it has always been the responsibility of local mosques to appoint clerics. Put differently, you can’t control what each and every mosque in the country does by controlling the Majlis. It doesn’t work that way.
Note: This conversation took place between Jenny Vaughan, the AFP correspondent based in Addis Ababa and Alemayehu Fentaw, a visiting scholar at the LBJ School of Public Affairs, via email between 8 and 24 October 2012 regarding the current Muslim protests in Ethiopia.
42 comments
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
What a stupid assumption is that, telling us terorrism doesn't exist.
This guy is a pathological liar who try to deny all the crimes being commited by islamic extrimists just to show his hatred against Ethiopian govt. Another blind dispora loser who has nothing to do with current Ethiopian affairs. But only dreaming and salivating for power.
Islamic hardliners are everywhere. We see on our eyes all kinds of terorrist acts everyday.
Are you telling us 9/11 never hapened? Or the day to day terorrist activity in Pakistan and Afganistan is all our hallusination and never hapening? How about the Bokko harrams in Nigeria who declared NO to civillization?
This guy is a pathological liar who try to deny all the crimes being commited by islamic extrimists just to show his hatred against Ethiopian govt. Another blind dispora loser who has nothing to do with current Ethiopian affairs. But only dreaming and salivating for power.
Islamic hardliners are everywhere. We see on our eyes all kinds of terorrist acts everyday.
Are you telling us 9/11 never hapened? Or the day to day terorrist activity in Pakistan and Afganistan is all our hallusination and never hapening? How about the Bokko harrams in Nigeria who declared NO to civillization?
11/02/12 @ 00:42
Comment from: Elias [Visitor]
Addis Zemen:
You are the one who is real stupid. It is undeniable and very straight- forward that what the protesters want is the right to elect their own leader. If this is terrorism, so be it. People like you with uncontrolable hate toward Ethiopian Muslims should realize that Ethiopian Muslims are citizens and they are not going any where, and their demands will be met sooner or later. If that is a problem for you, then go to Hell where you belong.
You are the one who is real stupid. It is undeniable and very straight- forward that what the protesters want is the right to elect their own leader. If this is terrorism, so be it. People like you with uncontrolable hate toward Ethiopian Muslims should realize that Ethiopian Muslims are citizens and they are not going any where, and their demands will be met sooner or later. If that is a problem for you, then go to Hell where you belong.
11/02/12 @ 01:29
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Elias kift aff,...
They've nothing to do with Ethiopian muslims. These are extrimist and terorrist elements with the help of Ethiopian enemys, working only to achieve one thing, which is to distablize Ethiopia. The extrimist agenda and plan is to establish a sheria law in Ethiopia period!
If you're one of those extrimsts, you've no place in Ethiopia. Go where you belong to TORRA BORRA, or blow yourself up and go to your 79 virgins in HELL.
They've nothing to do with Ethiopian muslims. These are extrimist and terorrist elements with the help of Ethiopian enemys, working only to achieve one thing, which is to distablize Ethiopia. The extrimist agenda and plan is to establish a sheria law in Ethiopia period!
If you're one of those extrimsts, you've no place in Ethiopia. Go where you belong to TORRA BORRA, or blow yourself up and go to your 79 virgins in HELL.
11/02/12 @ 01:50
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
The only terrorist we know is weyannes militia who are now terrorising musliems in merkato area. This new penticontii PM is heading to religious war supported by Mormorons ,Protestant all new parasites christians from west. They have always choised according to their demand and religion and why is it weyannes Christians involve in this one. The same way penticontii and protestan chose their and these musliems have a right to chose whom they want.
11/02/12 @ 01:59
Comment from: kassim [Visitor]
Addis zemen u know torra borra exactly? DINGAY RAS...
Ethiopian muslim protest r peacefull protest in de world. If u r not believe go hell 1000 times.
Ethiopian muslim protest r peacefull protest in de world. If u r not believe go hell 1000 times.
11/02/12 @ 04:07
Comment from: obsaa [Visitor]
@Addis Zemen
U are thinking as old, ancient antimuslim rulers like Atse Yohannes IV. You are aroge zemen, not addis zemen.
U are thinking as old, ancient antimuslim rulers like Atse Yohannes IV. You are aroge zemen, not addis zemen.
11/02/12 @ 05:02
Comment from: YHD [Visitor]
Ethiopia is multi ethnic & multi religious nation. One out of three Ethiopians is a Muslim. This issue affects a significant portion of our society. It is to the best interest for our nation, our people and the Government to resolve this issue peacefully in a manner that respects and regards the fundamental demands of the Muslim community, and also addresses the Government’s genuine concern with the spread of radical Islam and its potential dangers in a plural society, such as ours. In my view, the best way to resolve this is to allow the Muslims to elect their religious leaders and root out elements of religious radicalism. Unfortunately, denunciations of the concerns of members the Muslim population and intimidation, criminalization of their peaceful and legitimate acts and convection of their leaders will not solve the problem other than creating deep mistrust, resentment and dissent within the Muslim community.
11/02/12 @ 05:11
Comment from: YHD [Visitor]
Ethiopia is multi ethnic & multi religious nation. One out of three Ethiopians is a Muslim. This issue affects a significant portion of our society. It is to the best interest for our nation, our people and the Government to resolve this issue peacefully in a manner that respects and regards the fundamental demands of the Muslim community, and also addresses the Government’s genuine concern with the spread of radical Islam and its potential dangers in a plural society, such as ours. In my view, the best way to resolve this is to allow the Muslims to elect their religious leaders and work with the leaders to root out elements of religious radicalism. Unfortunately, the current Gov approach of denunciations of concerns of the Muslim population, intimidation, criminalization of their peaceful and legitimate acts and convection of their leaders will not solve the problem other than ultimately creating deep mistrust, despair and dissent within the Muslim community.
11/02/12 @ 05:22
Comment from: Monica [Visitor]
Another hateful brainless imigrant politician. He says nothing about the Wahabists activities nor the behind the scene finances of Arabs. I wonder what they teach them at Universities because these people have no logic nor methods in their reasonings. Extream hate toward the government doesn't make you an intelectual. You sound as evil as those jihadists.
Tell me why is Alhabish bad than Whabism? From what I have heared the Saudis don't like Alhabish that is why some Ethiopian muslims are brainwashed to demonstrate against it. It has nothing to do with the government forcing them to accept alhabish. It rather shows how spread the tentacles of Saudi Arabia in Ethiopia is. I think this Alhabish is better than Wahabism. Because it sounds peaceful like the traditional Sufis.
As for Alemayehu Fantaw, you better go back to high school and finsh school. You sound childish.
Tell me why is Alhabish bad than Whabism? From what I have heared the Saudis don't like Alhabish that is why some Ethiopian muslims are brainwashed to demonstrate against it. It has nothing to do with the government forcing them to accept alhabish. It rather shows how spread the tentacles of Saudi Arabia in Ethiopia is. I think this Alhabish is better than Wahabism. Because it sounds peaceful like the traditional Sufis.
As for Alemayehu Fantaw, you better go back to high school and finsh school. You sound childish.
11/02/12 @ 06:45
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
There is a real and tangible terror going on in Ethiopia, there is no question about that. Alemayehu Fentaw knows nothing what is on the ground, he is just pretending to know what he don't know. Maybe he is playing politics not knowing he is playing with fire. He is just one from the many "fools and idiots" fake diaspora intellectual.
Alemayehu Fentaw shut the fuck up you idiot.
Alemayehu Fentaw shut the fuck up you idiot.
11/02/12 @ 07:05
Comment from: frim [Visitor]
Reading the first part of the interview, I can notice that neither Jenny Vaughan nor Alemayehu Fenatw know ethiopian muslim, wehabiya or/and ahbash. So completely non-sense interview!
11/02/12 @ 07:09
Comment from: Ab-rezak [Visitor]
Bullshit I'm tired of this two or three ethio embassy employe where ever there name addiszemen and bla bla .......
Do u guys ever question what Ethiopian Muslim ask or demand ? since I know the previews gov derg or hileselase time Ethiopian muslim leader always work with the gov no body dinied that but we never seen in the past gov forcing the Ethiopian muslim to accept new kind of religion doctrin or invited some group all the way to lebanon and give them do what ever they want to do Ethiopian Muslim doesn't know this group this ppl has d/t agenda I heard they use to work with Mossad (Israel intelegent agency ) they are not a Muslim they mask them self as muslem look at what they did in the grand mosque (anwar mesjed)they burn too many book from the mosque they bring their own book the funded money for the course held in sendafa police college more than 7000 Muslim leader and imam from all over Ethiopia take this course What was the agenda do u guys think weyane didnt involve all this what going on ? come on we know weyane we have been known each other 21 years ..... Ethiopiaan Muslim asking very simple question we like the way we use to be ! We are better the old way. What our father left for us .we don't need new doctrin, we didn't demand it ,leave as alone! do this in the (orthodox tehadeso ) we don't need muslim cevil service college were the caderes graduat from why weyane disrespect Ethiopian Muslim because we are peaceful ? because we not involve poletics what most orthodox do ?because our number when the gov try to bring 50% to 33% we didn't respond it . because most Muslim country like Somalia Sudan Djibouti given shelter to weyane when he was fighting against derg .........it's .ok to atack and kill Ethiopian Muslim but what kind of justify weyane has to atack Islam religion let me give example do orthodox resperesent by Protestant this what happen try telling us you all Ethiopian muslim form now on u can only reperesent by ahabash ( new religion just arrived 8 month ago ) if not u are ashebari we are smarter than this idiot go to hell ....... I think whom ever do this I bleave berekt smon the one whom play the big role think about he is Eritrean born in gonder .....shefafaw jarso pm eyene-Mariam ya luti areb alamudi ya seltew .......let me pray my beloved God u oready answer our pray by taking pawlos and meles now we only have few left pls pls we are wiatn ur fast answer ..... Amin Amin Amin
Do u guys ever question what Ethiopian Muslim ask or demand ? since I know the previews gov derg or hileselase time Ethiopian muslim leader always work with the gov no body dinied that but we never seen in the past gov forcing the Ethiopian muslim to accept new kind of religion doctrin or invited some group all the way to lebanon and give them do what ever they want to do Ethiopian Muslim doesn't know this group this ppl has d/t agenda I heard they use to work with Mossad (Israel intelegent agency ) they are not a Muslim they mask them self as muslem look at what they did in the grand mosque (anwar mesjed)they burn too many book from the mosque they bring their own book the funded money for the course held in sendafa police college more than 7000 Muslim leader and imam from all over Ethiopia take this course What was the agenda do u guys think weyane didnt involve all this what going on ? come on we know weyane we have been known each other 21 years ..... Ethiopiaan Muslim asking very simple question we like the way we use to be ! We are better the old way. What our father left for us .we don't need new doctrin, we didn't demand it ,leave as alone! do this in the (orthodox tehadeso ) we don't need muslim cevil service college were the caderes graduat from why weyane disrespect Ethiopian Muslim because we are peaceful ? because we not involve poletics what most orthodox do ?because our number when the gov try to bring 50% to 33% we didn't respond it . because most Muslim country like Somalia Sudan Djibouti given shelter to weyane when he was fighting against derg .........it's .ok to atack and kill Ethiopian Muslim but what kind of justify weyane has to atack Islam religion let me give example do orthodox resperesent by Protestant this what happen try telling us you all Ethiopian muslim form now on u can only reperesent by ahabash ( new religion just arrived 8 month ago ) if not u are ashebari we are smarter than this idiot go to hell ....... I think whom ever do this I bleave berekt smon the one whom play the big role think about he is Eritrean born in gonder .....shefafaw jarso pm eyene-Mariam ya luti areb alamudi ya seltew .......let me pray my beloved God u oready answer our pray by taking pawlos and meles now we only have few left pls pls we are wiatn ur fast answer ..... Amin Amin Amin
11/02/12 @ 08:08
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Ab-rezak, whatever,...
The main issue is that, islam religion is being hi-jacked by international etrimist jihadists who are bent to declare sheria law all over the world by means of teror or with what ever it takes. These international jihadists are a sleeper cell anywhere near you, or you could be one of them as long as you defending their action.
All our govt did was, as usual being ahead of the terorrists plan, tried to make our peaceful muslims to be aware of these jihadists not to hijack their religion, and use them as a sacrifficial lamb.
And for sure our people especially the peaceful muslims will never be a sacrifficial lamb for the satanic cause of the jihadists period!
The main issue is that, islam religion is being hi-jacked by international etrimist jihadists who are bent to declare sheria law all over the world by means of teror or with what ever it takes. These international jihadists are a sleeper cell anywhere near you, or you could be one of them as long as you defending their action.
All our govt did was, as usual being ahead of the terorrists plan, tried to make our peaceful muslims to be aware of these jihadists not to hijack their religion, and use them as a sacrifficial lamb.
And for sure our people especially the peaceful muslims will never be a sacrifficial lamb for the satanic cause of the jihadists period!
11/02/12 @ 09:57
Comment from: kalas [Visitor]
This is not a religious dispute but of a political. People across all sectors of society want change in Ethiopia...however, ethiopian government of politically bankrupt and relies on the west for funding and policies. As a result, the west wants to push terrorism and ethiopian government is on it'a knees implementing the wishes of their western masters....In Africa, muslims and christians live in harmony...governments are trying to disrupts this co-existence.
11/02/12 @ 10:46
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
There is a real terror in Ethiopia those that give us name labels every day: Assta Getu, Addis Zemen, and Extraterrersterial and Nostra Damus. Why the West just ignores this blatant Wayana agents in its own yard? They write one of the most toxic posts on this forum trying to destabilize Ethiopia, trying to cook something for Ethiopian Muslims so that they can finally eat them.
Ethiopian Muslims are not stupid. They will meticulously plan their protest and will never be dinner for mercinary agazians whose mission is from day one to impose their agame hate power over Muslims. They are happy to see Muslims getting killed, to spill the blood of Muslims over on the streets and to give names to Muslims, etc........
One piece of advise for my Muslim Ethiopians. We Muslims are not afraid to die for our religion. Neither are the christians. What makes one commit to death is the level of injustice and sorrow that benigns the oppressed. We Muslims of Ethiopia have tolerated repression. This is the period we woke up after we went into sleep when Derg gave us what we asked thinking every thing was alright. Muslims of Ethiopia protested against Haileselasie. At the time the King was weak. So protest was much easier and all christians were behind us. Now, wayane is getting weaker but by no means is weak. What Wayane needs however is a little push and he will be gone. Now, to do this Ethiopian Muslims must know one thing. The power of Wayane comes not from fighting the wars, not fighting bravely but by the sheer obedience to foreign power. Even among Muslim states wayane has a clout. Moreover, the West is wary of Wayane take over by the unknowns. These two challenges must be addressed before we can demand our full rights. Muslims are not asking for political change. If the government really wants to stop being overthrown it has to meet the demands of the people unconditionally. Free election and no interference. The last thing Muslims of Ethiopia want is to lose their religious institutions. Because they have lost everything in political influence and in military might etc. Even the economic sphere is now in the hands of others. So, the Muslim population is frustrated. We need to stop that.
Otherwise, once we eiliminate doubts of the West, it will be increasingly difficult for Wayane to stop the storm. This storm is gathering and once we come up with right conditions we go out to the streets and demand change of government. Period. We don't want that but each day Wayane is killing every innocent person who is growing beard.
Ethiopian Muslims are not stupid. They will meticulously plan their protest and will never be dinner for mercinary agazians whose mission is from day one to impose their agame hate power over Muslims. They are happy to see Muslims getting killed, to spill the blood of Muslims over on the streets and to give names to Muslims, etc........
One piece of advise for my Muslim Ethiopians. We Muslims are not afraid to die for our religion. Neither are the christians. What makes one commit to death is the level of injustice and sorrow that benigns the oppressed. We Muslims of Ethiopia have tolerated repression. This is the period we woke up after we went into sleep when Derg gave us what we asked thinking every thing was alright. Muslims of Ethiopia protested against Haileselasie. At the time the King was weak. So protest was much easier and all christians were behind us. Now, wayane is getting weaker but by no means is weak. What Wayane needs however is a little push and he will be gone. Now, to do this Ethiopian Muslims must know one thing. The power of Wayane comes not from fighting the wars, not fighting bravely but by the sheer obedience to foreign power. Even among Muslim states wayane has a clout. Moreover, the West is wary of Wayane take over by the unknowns. These two challenges must be addressed before we can demand our full rights. Muslims are not asking for political change. If the government really wants to stop being overthrown it has to meet the demands of the people unconditionally. Free election and no interference. The last thing Muslims of Ethiopia want is to lose their religious institutions. Because they have lost everything in political influence and in military might etc. Even the economic sphere is now in the hands of others. So, the Muslim population is frustrated. We need to stop that.
Otherwise, once we eiliminate doubts of the West, it will be increasingly difficult for Wayane to stop the storm. This storm is gathering and once we come up with right conditions we go out to the streets and demand change of government. Period. We don't want that but each day Wayane is killing every innocent person who is growing beard.
11/02/12 @ 11:12
Comment from: abchahu [Visitor]
The government's interference backfired irrespective of whatsoever good intention it has. The interview is relatively conducted properly and the answers are somehow reflected the general environment in the country.
Due to the government's uncalled for interference the inconsequential elements in Awalia surrounding are emboldened and able to mobilize a big size of population by spreading lies and labels. The majority of the protesters are misguided by false rumors and further aggravated by the government's heavy handed measures. The government should reflect it's move and take off it's hand from interference and release Awalia committee representatives and take the necessary action by curtailing their activity.
"Ahbashism" is the refelection of the vast majority of muslims and will remain there as opposed to those few "Wahhabies" who are misguided and need to be tackled wisely by avoiding to pour fuel on fire.
11/02/12 @ 11:57
Comment from: hu Si [Visitor]
The gist of the matter is anti-Islamism has been the policy of Ethiopian rulers since long.
Muslim have right to believe what they want and there nothing so stupid to paint Islam as terrorism except hatred, diercted policies.
In the US and the West Islam is practised and if there is any terror charges it is against those individuals.In Ethiopia it is government policy to fight Islam and whenever muslim schools prosper such charges had been used deliberately.
To day the world is a village and Ethiopian rulers should not try to the world and the Muslims are more aware of their rights.
Sey shariff
Muslim have right to believe what they want and there nothing so stupid to paint Islam as terrorism except hatred, diercted policies.
In the US and the West Islam is practised and if there is any terror charges it is against those individuals.In Ethiopia it is government policy to fight Islam and whenever muslim schools prosper such charges had been used deliberately.
To day the world is a village and Ethiopian rulers should not try to the world and the Muslims are more aware of their rights.
Sey shariff
11/02/12 @ 12:04
Comment from: Muslim-Ethiopian [Visitor]
Addis Zemen:
If your wife or sister is raped by her master somewhere in one of the gulf countries, then go there and look for retribution. Otherwise, don't open your big mouse against well-behaved Ethiopian Muslims. You don't even know about your own faith much less about Sharia. Sharia is part of Islam under which Muslims are happy to alive and follow. Nobody asks you to follow Sharia, and it is a Muslim affair only. Moron like you do not tell me what Sharia is nor should you tell me what to follow and what not to follow, and it is far better if you just shut up and mind your own business.
If your wife or sister is raped by her master somewhere in one of the gulf countries, then go there and look for retribution. Otherwise, don't open your big mouse against well-behaved Ethiopian Muslims. You don't even know about your own faith much less about Sharia. Sharia is part of Islam under which Muslims are happy to alive and follow. Nobody asks you to follow Sharia, and it is a Muslim affair only. Moron like you do not tell me what Sharia is nor should you tell me what to follow and what not to follow, and it is far better if you just shut up and mind your own business.
11/02/12 @ 12:16
Comment from: zakir [Visitor]
@addis zemen old news paper no body read this paper you are stupid like addis zemen newspaper, we ethiopian muslim asking simple human rights,but the government show us against Ethiopian Muslim we are at least half of the population soon you and woyane will remove and we give the power to the opposition then we are deal with democracy your chief meles he might be in hell we may send you to there it is not too far.woyane keep abusing the people it is a matter of time.
11/02/12 @ 13:40
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
"FAKE" muslim-ethiopian, and zakir,..two talibans,.
Oh really? A stinky wanna be extrimist like you is easy to detect. Because before you even open your mouth, one can smeel your stinky ass miles away.
Whatever happens to any Ethiopian, regardless of their religion, ethnicity what so ever is my business as an Ethiopian as far as I'm concerned. And we no Ethiopian in that matter sit aside and watch some islam extrimists and wanna be terrorists like you hi-jack such a peacful Ethiopian muslims and use them for your satanic cause and distruct all the things we have achieved so far.
Whether you like it or not, the majority of Ethiopian muslims are part of everything what you see in Ethiopia. They've worked for it, they've faught for it and died for it. And they will be ready to pay any sacrifice to protect it. And they know your kind of jihadists and extrimsts have nothing to do with the religion islam. Or with Ethiopian muslims in that matter.
The govt of Ethiopia will make sure your kind of extrimists won't build a political party out of muslim religion. Religion is religion, it will be worshiped peacefuly without weekly political demonstration. That is why we put some of the culprits behind bars.
Oh really? A stinky wanna be extrimist like you is easy to detect. Because before you even open your mouth, one can smeel your stinky ass miles away.
Whatever happens to any Ethiopian, regardless of their religion, ethnicity what so ever is my business as an Ethiopian as far as I'm concerned. And we no Ethiopian in that matter sit aside and watch some islam extrimists and wanna be terrorists like you hi-jack such a peacful Ethiopian muslims and use them for your satanic cause and distruct all the things we have achieved so far.
Whether you like it or not, the majority of Ethiopian muslims are part of everything what you see in Ethiopia. They've worked for it, they've faught for it and died for it. And they will be ready to pay any sacrifice to protect it. And they know your kind of jihadists and extrimsts have nothing to do with the religion islam. Or with Ethiopian muslims in that matter.
The govt of Ethiopia will make sure your kind of extrimists won't build a political party out of muslim religion. Religion is religion, it will be worshiped peacefuly without weekly political demonstration. That is why we put some of the culprits behind bars.
11/02/12 @ 13:51
Comment from: aba biya [Visitor]
The Ethiopian govt is pressing its opponents hardly with iron feast. For example, what crime did Bekele Gerba & Olbana Lelisa commit? They have different political views from EPRDF and they tried to struggle peacefully. But the govt accuse them in the pretext of terrorism. But they have no any connection with opposition parties that the govt assigns as terrorits. The govt must let them free if it wants to practise democracy.
Regarding the current Ethiopian musilm mvt, I think they have the right to elect their leaders at their mosques. But I am not comfortable with their growing actions. On their Friday demonstrations they tried to warn the govt. They used yellow color I think to frighten or warn the govt. What does it mean? Are they going to terrorise Ethiopia? Are they going to blow up buildings with bomb? What does their warning mean? The Ethiopian musilms are getting radicalised. Their every thing is changing including clothing. I am afraid that those countries who want to destablise Ethiopia may use them as a tool. It is the fore front agenda or hidden mission of musilms to enforce sheria and islam all over the world. Haven't you noticed the current Arab spring revolution? Rather than becoming democrat they all become radicals. But we shouldn't allow them to do this in Ethiopia. Their right must be respected according to the constitution and they must also respect the costitution. If not the goverment must take necessy measures without hesitation to get rid off the threats. Look what is happening every Friday in anwar mosque. They are well organised. They can posbily cause terror.
Regarding the current Ethiopian musilm mvt, I think they have the right to elect their leaders at their mosques. But I am not comfortable with their growing actions. On their Friday demonstrations they tried to warn the govt. They used yellow color I think to frighten or warn the govt. What does it mean? Are they going to terrorise Ethiopia? Are they going to blow up buildings with bomb? What does their warning mean? The Ethiopian musilms are getting radicalised. Their every thing is changing including clothing. I am afraid that those countries who want to destablise Ethiopia may use them as a tool. It is the fore front agenda or hidden mission of musilms to enforce sheria and islam all over the world. Haven't you noticed the current Arab spring revolution? Rather than becoming democrat they all become radicals. But we shouldn't allow them to do this in Ethiopia. Their right must be respected according to the constitution and they must also respect the costitution. If not the goverment must take necessy measures without hesitation to get rid off the threats. Look what is happening every Friday in anwar mosque. They are well organised. They can posbily cause terror.
11/02/12 @ 18:08
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Fear of terrorism, fear of destabilization of a civilian government, and fear of religious war are valid reasons for the Ethiopian government to interfere in any Islamic communities, schools, and Mosques after the Saudi Wahabbists have already infiltrated the entire Ethiopian Muslim communities and have radicalized them to establish a separate Islamic government that will finally overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government and completely destroy the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church.
Historically, Ethiopian Muslims have never identified themselves with any certain Islamic sects: they simply would say that they are Muslims, and they never say they are Shia Muslims or Sunni Muslims or The Nation of Islam; however, after they have learned about the political Islam and the hostilities that go with it, they now call themselves Sunni Muslims. We all know what the Sunni Muslims represent: they represent hatred toward the infidels – the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, and the other non-Muslims. Based on a political Islam that teaches Muslims should eat Muslim foods, should rape Christian girls, should not associate with non-Muslims, and should have multiple wives, the Ethiopian Muslims have started abhorring the non-Muslims and demanding the Ethiopian Christian government to give them more rights. If not, they are saying that they will continue demonstrating and shouting their daily political slogans: “Allah Akbar!”
Later on, their “Allah Akbar” slogan will be followed by machine guns, by burning Christian Churches, and by finally overthrowing the Christian government and replacing it by the most barbaric Islamic despotism. In this case, the Ethiopian Christian government must take immediate actions before the Ethiopian Islamic movement changes its image into the image of a beast. If the Ethiopian authorities care for the Ethiopian people, then they must kill the beast before it devours the entire Ethiopian Christian communities.
I completely disagree with the statements Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw has advocated about the Ethiopian Muslim communities and about the mild actions the Ethiopian authorities have taken so far on those irresponsible Islamist Jihadists.
Mr. Fentaw believes the Ethiopian authorities must identify the terrorist suspects instead of harassing the rest of the Muslim communities. Yes, the Ethiopian authorities have identified 29 Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims, and among these terrorist Muslims is the money-smuggler to the Islamist terrorists, Mrs. Habiba Mohammed, and more to come as these Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims continue defying the Ethiopian authorities and invalidating the Ethiopian Muslim election that has been carried out openly instead of in a Mosque controlled by radical Muslims.
In my view, the Ethiopian authorities have the right to interfere in the affairs of all Muslim communities since most Muslims are incubus and succubus, and their Islamic communities, their religious schools, and their Mosques are the main sources of criminals and terrorists. Muslims generally are not religious people, and they have never been: history tells us what Islam did to Egypt, to Turkey, to Syria, to Jordan, to Lebanon, and to many ancient Christians. We Ethiopian Christians are not Egyptians, Turks, Syrians, Jordanians, or Lebanese: We are Ethiopian Christians, and we will never give up our Christian leadership to the backward Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims who are intended to destroy our Christian values in the name of religious freedom.
Mr. Fentaw suggests that the Ethiopian government meet the demands of those Muslims who have been rioting for so many days inside their Mosques. This is foolishness: one cannot meet the demand of a Muslim terrorist; doing so shows one’s weakness and it emboldens the terrorists to commit more crimes by spilling the blood of several innocent people. The Ethiopian Muslims have blood in their hands when their ancestors with their Jihadist leader, Gragn Muhammad, slaughtered thousands of Ethiopian Christians. They had almost won the war by inviting the Muslim Turkish mercenary soldiers into our Christian country, but the Almighty God protected Ethiopia by sending some Christian Portuguese soldiers to Ethiopia and killing the Ethiopian Muslim leader, Gragn Muhammad. It was the scheme of the Ethiopian Muslims that killed Ate Yohannes in Metema, and it was the Ethiopian Muslims who attacked the retreating Ethiopian Christian soldiers on their ways through Wollo province to Addis Ababa. Even in our time, some of the Ethiopian Muslims have burned many Christian Churches and confiscated Christian properties. Therefore, government interference in every Ethiopian Muslim life is essential in order to protect the safety of the many peace-loving Ethiopians.
The entire Muslim communities must be represented by the Ethiopian government, not by the Majlis. Recognizing the Majlis as the head of all Ethiopian Muslim communities is recognizing another government within a government. This is a great danger for the existence of the Ethiopian Christian government. The next demand the Ethiopian Muslims will bring to the Ethiopian government is to allow them to have a separate Muslim state, and they will not stop there: they will continue to push until they have achieved their clear goal to convert the whole Ethiopian Christians to Islam. They can do this easily by producing millions of Muslim babies every year; then the few left Christians must leave their country and go somewhere else to find shelter. We already know minority Christians under the Islamic rules cannot live a happy life; case in point is the Egyptian Coptic Christians, the Pakistani Christians, the Indonesian Christians, the Palestinian Christians, and the Iranian Christians, just to name a few.
The person who created such an evil Islamic entity versus the pious Christian entity is that ugly Communist man, Mengistu Haile Mariam, and death has refused to claim him. He gave equal status to the Ethiopian Jihadist imams with the Ethiopian Christian Bishops and Archbishops. Do you see the Ethiopian Muslims are satisfied with their new status? Not at all! They are demanding more and more by shouting in their Mosques purposely made for plots and intrigues.
Mr. Fentaw is right these Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims will never stop demonstrating until their demands are met, and if the government meets their demands, I am certain, on the next day, they will come with another new demand: they would say they want to build a new grand Mosque in the Holy City of Axum and another grand Mosque in Waldiba Monastery. This is the nature of Islam, and I am very sorry Mr. Fentaw has failed to see the wickedness and the evil nature of Islam. I suspect Mr. Fentaw is the agent of the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims, and his responses to the questioner demonstrate that. He has put the blame on the Ethiopian government and minimized the danger the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims will bring to the country if the Ethiopian government uses the policy of laissez-faire – “let them do as they want.”
Well, what the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims want to do is to completely destroy the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government, establish an Islamic republic government in the Christian land of Ethiopia, and, finally, make the Sharia law the law of the land. They can impregnate all the Ethiopian Christian women and change the demography of the country forever. That is the history of Muslims all over the world, and the history of the Ethiopian Muslims will not be different from the other Muslim histories.
Solutions:
1. Force the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims to drop their demands
2. Dismantle the existence of the Majlis
3. Shut down all Muslim religious schools
4. Deport all the Wahhabis
5. Monitor the financial support that comes from the Saudis and other Islamist countries to help the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslim to destabilize the Ethiopian Christian government
May God save Christian Ethiopia from her historical Muslim enemies!
Historically, Ethiopian Muslims have never identified themselves with any certain Islamic sects: they simply would say that they are Muslims, and they never say they are Shia Muslims or Sunni Muslims or The Nation of Islam; however, after they have learned about the political Islam and the hostilities that go with it, they now call themselves Sunni Muslims. We all know what the Sunni Muslims represent: they represent hatred toward the infidels – the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, and the other non-Muslims. Based on a political Islam that teaches Muslims should eat Muslim foods, should rape Christian girls, should not associate with non-Muslims, and should have multiple wives, the Ethiopian Muslims have started abhorring the non-Muslims and demanding the Ethiopian Christian government to give them more rights. If not, they are saying that they will continue demonstrating and shouting their daily political slogans: “Allah Akbar!”
Later on, their “Allah Akbar” slogan will be followed by machine guns, by burning Christian Churches, and by finally overthrowing the Christian government and replacing it by the most barbaric Islamic despotism. In this case, the Ethiopian Christian government must take immediate actions before the Ethiopian Islamic movement changes its image into the image of a beast. If the Ethiopian authorities care for the Ethiopian people, then they must kill the beast before it devours the entire Ethiopian Christian communities.
I completely disagree with the statements Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw has advocated about the Ethiopian Muslim communities and about the mild actions the Ethiopian authorities have taken so far on those irresponsible Islamist Jihadists.
Mr. Fentaw believes the Ethiopian authorities must identify the terrorist suspects instead of harassing the rest of the Muslim communities. Yes, the Ethiopian authorities have identified 29 Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims, and among these terrorist Muslims is the money-smuggler to the Islamist terrorists, Mrs. Habiba Mohammed, and more to come as these Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims continue defying the Ethiopian authorities and invalidating the Ethiopian Muslim election that has been carried out openly instead of in a Mosque controlled by radical Muslims.
In my view, the Ethiopian authorities have the right to interfere in the affairs of all Muslim communities since most Muslims are incubus and succubus, and their Islamic communities, their religious schools, and their Mosques are the main sources of criminals and terrorists. Muslims generally are not religious people, and they have never been: history tells us what Islam did to Egypt, to Turkey, to Syria, to Jordan, to Lebanon, and to many ancient Christians. We Ethiopian Christians are not Egyptians, Turks, Syrians, Jordanians, or Lebanese: We are Ethiopian Christians, and we will never give up our Christian leadership to the backward Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims who are intended to destroy our Christian values in the name of religious freedom.
Mr. Fentaw suggests that the Ethiopian government meet the demands of those Muslims who have been rioting for so many days inside their Mosques. This is foolishness: one cannot meet the demand of a Muslim terrorist; doing so shows one’s weakness and it emboldens the terrorists to commit more crimes by spilling the blood of several innocent people. The Ethiopian Muslims have blood in their hands when their ancestors with their Jihadist leader, Gragn Muhammad, slaughtered thousands of Ethiopian Christians. They had almost won the war by inviting the Muslim Turkish mercenary soldiers into our Christian country, but the Almighty God protected Ethiopia by sending some Christian Portuguese soldiers to Ethiopia and killing the Ethiopian Muslim leader, Gragn Muhammad. It was the scheme of the Ethiopian Muslims that killed Ate Yohannes in Metema, and it was the Ethiopian Muslims who attacked the retreating Ethiopian Christian soldiers on their ways through Wollo province to Addis Ababa. Even in our time, some of the Ethiopian Muslims have burned many Christian Churches and confiscated Christian properties. Therefore, government interference in every Ethiopian Muslim life is essential in order to protect the safety of the many peace-loving Ethiopians.
The entire Muslim communities must be represented by the Ethiopian government, not by the Majlis. Recognizing the Majlis as the head of all Ethiopian Muslim communities is recognizing another government within a government. This is a great danger for the existence of the Ethiopian Christian government. The next demand the Ethiopian Muslims will bring to the Ethiopian government is to allow them to have a separate Muslim state, and they will not stop there: they will continue to push until they have achieved their clear goal to convert the whole Ethiopian Christians to Islam. They can do this easily by producing millions of Muslim babies every year; then the few left Christians must leave their country and go somewhere else to find shelter. We already know minority Christians under the Islamic rules cannot live a happy life; case in point is the Egyptian Coptic Christians, the Pakistani Christians, the Indonesian Christians, the Palestinian Christians, and the Iranian Christians, just to name a few.
The person who created such an evil Islamic entity versus the pious Christian entity is that ugly Communist man, Mengistu Haile Mariam, and death has refused to claim him. He gave equal status to the Ethiopian Jihadist imams with the Ethiopian Christian Bishops and Archbishops. Do you see the Ethiopian Muslims are satisfied with their new status? Not at all! They are demanding more and more by shouting in their Mosques purposely made for plots and intrigues.
Mr. Fentaw is right these Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims will never stop demonstrating until their demands are met, and if the government meets their demands, I am certain, on the next day, they will come with another new demand: they would say they want to build a new grand Mosque in the Holy City of Axum and another grand Mosque in Waldiba Monastery. This is the nature of Islam, and I am very sorry Mr. Fentaw has failed to see the wickedness and the evil nature of Islam. I suspect Mr. Fentaw is the agent of the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims, and his responses to the questioner demonstrate that. He has put the blame on the Ethiopian government and minimized the danger the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims will bring to the country if the Ethiopian government uses the policy of laissez-faire – “let them do as they want.”
Well, what the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims want to do is to completely destroy the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government, establish an Islamic republic government in the Christian land of Ethiopia, and, finally, make the Sharia law the law of the land. They can impregnate all the Ethiopian Christian women and change the demography of the country forever. That is the history of Muslims all over the world, and the history of the Ethiopian Muslims will not be different from the other Muslim histories.
Solutions:
1. Force the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims to drop their demands
2. Dismantle the existence of the Majlis
3. Shut down all Muslim religious schools
4. Deport all the Wahhabis
5. Monitor the financial support that comes from the Saudis and other Islamist countries to help the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslim to destabilize the Ethiopian Christian government
May God save Christian Ethiopia from her historical Muslim enemies!
11/02/12 @ 19:03
Comment from: zemzem [Visitor]
I guess it is not the question of religion that matters the most regarding the action and response of the government to the demand of the Ethiopian muslims.As any religious human my belief is in me. The government can only prohibit me from practicing and exercising it in the open.
The question must be "do I have a country where I am heard and live without fear and persecution" If the answer is yes,that is the ideal place to live if the answer is no one has to fight to create that place.Please make up your mind !!
The question must be "do I have a country where I am heard and live without fear and persecution" If the answer is yes,that is the ideal place to live if the answer is no one has to fight to create that place.Please make up your mind !!
11/02/12 @ 21:28
Comment from: selam [Visitor] 
@ Asema ras B gettu ! this is how ur stinky body smells gematem go to HELL. we ethiopian muslims need freedom ,democratically elect our own mejlis or religious leader. we are not like the way ur pig mind thinks terrorist. we ask for one thing democratic right.Ethiopia is not only for u pig and stinky women.is too for peaceful Ethiopian muslim s .pls keep away ur dirty fingers from keyboard STUPID go and get ye ahiya gella LADY!!!
11/02/12 @ 21:34
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Selam, fesam (visitor),
You will never be free until you free yourself from plotting to overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government by protesting every Friday afternoon in your Mosque instead of praying to your moon-god, Allah, to give you the curse your false prophet Muhammad endowed with until he died poisoned by one of his concubines and buried somewhere in the Arabian Desert or in that dark cave at Mt. Hira in Mecca where he used to get his instruction from the dark Angel there during the night time.
If you want religious leaders, you can have Gragn Ahmed from Tora Bora, Seattle from Wogera and Ethiopiawinet from Setit Humera to lead you to the hell fire, the eternal home of Muhammad the false prophet and his followers. The new Ethiopia’s Prime Minister and his Deputy are your leaders, and asking for another new leader is considered treason.
You do not know what democracy stands for: your satanic Quran does not teach democracy; it teaches submission to the moon-god, Allah and to his evil messenger Muhammad the rapist. If you knew the value of democracy and the rule of law, you couldn’t burn Christian Churches and kill hundreds of innocent Christians allover the world.
If you really need a religious leader, the Christian government of Christian Ethiopia can send you a good and pious Christian leader to get you out of darkness – Islam – and to lead you to a bright light – Christianity. It seems you are unhappy with the Ethiopian Christian government, and you want your own Islamic leader, your own Islamic state, and your own Sharia law. Then you must pack up your belongings, leave Christian Ethiopia to the Ethiopian Christians, and go to your lawless land, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
You will never be free until you free yourself from plotting to overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government by protesting every Friday afternoon in your Mosque instead of praying to your moon-god, Allah, to give you the curse your false prophet Muhammad endowed with until he died poisoned by one of his concubines and buried somewhere in the Arabian Desert or in that dark cave at Mt. Hira in Mecca where he used to get his instruction from the dark Angel there during the night time.
If you want religious leaders, you can have Gragn Ahmed from Tora Bora, Seattle from Wogera and Ethiopiawinet from Setit Humera to lead you to the hell fire, the eternal home of Muhammad the false prophet and his followers. The new Ethiopia’s Prime Minister and his Deputy are your leaders, and asking for another new leader is considered treason.
You do not know what democracy stands for: your satanic Quran does not teach democracy; it teaches submission to the moon-god, Allah and to his evil messenger Muhammad the rapist. If you knew the value of democracy and the rule of law, you couldn’t burn Christian Churches and kill hundreds of innocent Christians allover the world.
If you really need a religious leader, the Christian government of Christian Ethiopia can send you a good and pious Christian leader to get you out of darkness – Islam – and to lead you to a bright light – Christianity. It seems you are unhappy with the Ethiopian Christian government, and you want your own Islamic leader, your own Islamic state, and your own Sharia law. Then you must pack up your belongings, leave Christian Ethiopia to the Ethiopian Christians, and go to your lawless land, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
11/02/12 @ 23:27
Comment from: Ethiopian-Muslim [Visitor]
Assta Gettu:
You have no right to speak about Ethiopia much less the great religion (Islam), and there is no place for twisted morons like you in any society. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world in general and in the U.S. in particular. Why don't you go where African-American Muslims are located and try to open your big mouse instead of bothering Ethiopians here by hiding behind the computer screen? because if you dare to do that, they would make you eat your own rotten flesh, and you know it and we know it . Time and time again, the Muslims in various parts of the world at least have shown how to fight and defend their rights. Whether you like it or not, Ethiopian Muslims are no exception and their demand will be met sooner or later. You on the other hand are a disgrace to Ethiopian Christians. In fact, you are nothing but ugly hater trying to achieve the impossible. If people like you including the Weyane think that the West would sympathize with you by playing the terrorism card, try to think again though your moron brains would not let you. The West is much smarter than you, and remember the Bosnian Muslims were rescued from Orthodox fanatics like you by the West. If you really stand up for your twisted and anti-Islam positions, instead of talking trash in Ethiopian websites, I challenge you to meet any Muslim on earth personally and see if you are able to utter your usual blasphemous name calling on the great religion of Islam and its prophet. Do it and I am sure you would join your grand father, the killer Aste Yohneess, in the Hell sooner rather than later.
You have no right to speak about Ethiopia much less the great religion (Islam), and there is no place for twisted morons like you in any society. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world in general and in the U.S. in particular. Why don't you go where African-American Muslims are located and try to open your big mouse instead of bothering Ethiopians here by hiding behind the computer screen? because if you dare to do that, they would make you eat your own rotten flesh, and you know it and we know it . Time and time again, the Muslims in various parts of the world at least have shown how to fight and defend their rights. Whether you like it or not, Ethiopian Muslims are no exception and their demand will be met sooner or later. You on the other hand are a disgrace to Ethiopian Christians. In fact, you are nothing but ugly hater trying to achieve the impossible. If people like you including the Weyane think that the West would sympathize with you by playing the terrorism card, try to think again though your moron brains would not let you. The West is much smarter than you, and remember the Bosnian Muslims were rescued from Orthodox fanatics like you by the West. If you really stand up for your twisted and anti-Islam positions, instead of talking trash in Ethiopian websites, I challenge you to meet any Muslim on earth personally and see if you are able to utter your usual blasphemous name calling on the great religion of Islam and its prophet. Do it and I am sure you would join your grand father, the killer Aste Yohneess, in the Hell sooner rather than later.
11/03/12 @ 01:20
Comment from: gudfela [Visitor]
Mr. Alemayehu Fantaw,
So since 1993, Saudi has been funding the Islamic council in Ethiopia. Why? Saudi has been funding against Ethiopia read "House of Saud" so why should it be acceptable that it should fund on Islamic religious-related in Ethiopia? Is that acceptable to you or to any Ethiopians when Saudi Arabia has a history of being against Ethiopia. Who is the Moron for believing this shoudl be acceptable? I don;t understand the mind set of many Ethiopians not seeing the current Arab Spring relations in Midddle East and war, connected to the recipie for disaster in Ethiopia. Ethiopia doesn not have majority Muslims so either one or the other loose so such protest and tplfs flirting with this is bound to hurt Ethiopians ALL
Addis Zemen,
Where was tplf when Saudi was funding the Ethioipan Islamic council since 1993?
In addition,this stage both from TPLF and some planted groups within Muslims community wants to destabilize Ethhiopia. it is part of the globalization that powers are playing. By making it there is war, they will interefer and break apart Ethiopian. It comes down to it is about resource control.
So since 1993, Saudi has been funding the Islamic council in Ethiopia. Why? Saudi has been funding against Ethiopia read "House of Saud" so why should it be acceptable that it should fund on Islamic religious-related in Ethiopia? Is that acceptable to you or to any Ethiopians when Saudi Arabia has a history of being against Ethiopia. Who is the Moron for believing this shoudl be acceptable? I don;t understand the mind set of many Ethiopians not seeing the current Arab Spring relations in Midddle East and war, connected to the recipie for disaster in Ethiopia. Ethiopia doesn not have majority Muslims so either one or the other loose so such protest and tplfs flirting with this is bound to hurt Ethiopians ALL
Addis Zemen,
Where was tplf when Saudi was funding the Ethioipan Islamic council since 1993?
In addition,this stage both from TPLF and some planted groups within Muslims community wants to destabilize Ethhiopia. it is part of the globalization that powers are playing. By making it there is war, they will interefer and break apart Ethiopian. It comes down to it is about resource control.
11/03/12 @ 05:28
Comment from: gudfela [Visitor]
I repeat, instead of the muslims making themselves target, they need to collaborate with the Christians and protest the ousting of TPLF and forget about religion if the Muslims want to survide. There is a whole confusion that makes everything frozen which for foreigners a great thing to destabilize Ethioipa:
1. the christians are confused because they don't want to support the governemnt but then they are afraid of Islam extremism
2. majority Muslims are saying "right" without taking caution that they are being set up for war if they keep persisting. they are gullible also for undermining who iswithin their community. Some also believing this "right" could give them more control. If they challenge TPLF, they are not thinking that they will be considered as terrorists that will lead to the interference of foreign powers.
3. There is gullibility in all Ethioipans by neglecting the power of foreign interference to destabilize Ethioipa. there is no evidence that the foreingers are genuine or not because is it to create war and root out the bad apples or create war to destabilize Ethiopia for resource.
4 Why the Muslims and Christians not uniting is because that is poison to all that want to destabilize Ethiopia and divide the nation.
Solution: By ALL
1. the christians are confused because they don't want to support the governemnt but then they are afraid of Islam extremism
2. majority Muslims are saying "right" without taking caution that they are being set up for war if they keep persisting. they are gullible also for undermining who iswithin their community. Some also believing this "right" could give them more control. If they challenge TPLF, they are not thinking that they will be considered as terrorists that will lead to the interference of foreign powers.
3. There is gullibility in all Ethioipans by neglecting the power of foreign interference to destabilize Ethioipa. there is no evidence that the foreingers are genuine or not because is it to create war and root out the bad apples or create war to destabilize Ethiopia for resource.
4 Why the Muslims and Christians not uniting is because that is poison to all that want to destabilize Ethiopia and divide the nation.
Solution: By ALL
11/03/12 @ 05:47
Comment from: Ethiopiawinet [Visitor]
Guys
Why only Amhara and Tigris copts hate Islam like Egyptian copt and Serbian do. Is your religion to worship not your cave god but hate Islam. You are obssessed with hate and S.Arabia.
This coptic religion is weired and no wonder it was eradicated from the surface of Western world.
Something is wrong.
What's wrong if S.Arabia help Ethiopian Muslims finacially? Who do you want Ethiopian Muslims get help from. Do you know that S.Arabia is the stingiest greedy country. They never helped Ethiopian Muslims even when they were stricken with famine. You guys are out of touch. S.Arabia does not help period but if they help then the Ethiopian Muslims will be relieved from sufferings and it's fine but not for copt oppressors. You can use labeling but who cares. It's out dated now.
Copts
try to dictate Ethiopian Muslims how to pray.
tell them not to get help from Muslim country.
Copts also tell Eth.Muslims to worship cave god.
The list is long.
Stone age dark brain population forced Muslim to live under them since 1887. Eritrea what a fighters who free themselves from those sick people.
Why only Amhara and Tigris copts hate Islam like Egyptian copt and Serbian do. Is your religion to worship not your cave god but hate Islam. You are obssessed with hate and S.Arabia.
This coptic religion is weired and no wonder it was eradicated from the surface of Western world.
Something is wrong.
What's wrong if S.Arabia help Ethiopian Muslims finacially? Who do you want Ethiopian Muslims get help from. Do you know that S.Arabia is the stingiest greedy country. They never helped Ethiopian Muslims even when they were stricken with famine. You guys are out of touch. S.Arabia does not help period but if they help then the Ethiopian Muslims will be relieved from sufferings and it's fine but not for copt oppressors. You can use labeling but who cares. It's out dated now.
Copts
try to dictate Ethiopian Muslims how to pray.
tell them not to get help from Muslim country.
Copts also tell Eth.Muslims to worship cave god.
The list is long.
Stone age dark brain population forced Muslim to live under them since 1887. Eritrea what a fighters who free themselves from those sick people.
11/03/12 @ 08:59
Comment from: ga [Visitor]
Coptic always flirted with Nationalism so they will survive. How much link is there between orthodox and state? We Ethiopian Muslims are fools. They tell us we lived in peace when they called us kit atabi, we said okay we lived in peace. We were told we don't belong to Islam of other countries, Ethiopian Islam is different we said okay. Ethiopian christians call us to drink tella and we said we are the same. All this led to our being slaves to them, empowering them and being looked down upon. We need a rennaisssance of Muslim Ethiopian power, we have the money, we can convert this beggar Almaz copts and make Ethiopia a great Muslim country. At present copts have no choice because their only hope is the government who very unfairly gives them all the power and land they don't deserve.
11/03/12 @ 11:04
Comment from: Surprised [Visitor]
What really surprises me the utter incompetence of the so called Scholars ( countless numerous pretenders, really) from Ethiopia unable to connect all the dots and relate it to what is happening elsewhere.
I'm no fan of EPRDF and its ethnic stooges but let's be honest about one thing. You can accuse them of anything under the sun EXCEPT of religious intolerance. The government ( or its officials, if you will), no matter how evil or bad you may think it is has the instinctive urge for self-preservation so it's in their best interest to manage this situation ( or rather contain it) as far as they can manage.
However, as you may see, hear or read anywhere Muslims live, the Muslim rage ( irrational intolerance of anyone not associated with Salafism) is a contagious virus that cannot be "contained". The government has just realized that after 2 decades of giving them a free rein to spread their Waahabbi vitriol and build mosques at every corner in Ethiopia.
So what's this DUMB scholar talkign about any hint of religious intolerance. Does he expect the govt just to sit back and watch as these gangs of savages roam the countryside, burning churches, hacking civilians all non-Muslims to death?
I don't get these people like Al- Mariam Fanta blah blah Defabachew Kurabachew.
"Dinkem" Scholar! These ex-Marxists want to hop on the saddle of power at any expense!
I'm no fan of EPRDF and its ethnic stooges but let's be honest about one thing. You can accuse them of anything under the sun EXCEPT of religious intolerance. The government ( or its officials, if you will), no matter how evil or bad you may think it is has the instinctive urge for self-preservation so it's in their best interest to manage this situation ( or rather contain it) as far as they can manage.
However, as you may see, hear or read anywhere Muslims live, the Muslim rage ( irrational intolerance of anyone not associated with Salafism) is a contagious virus that cannot be "contained". The government has just realized that after 2 decades of giving them a free rein to spread their Waahabbi vitriol and build mosques at every corner in Ethiopia.
So what's this DUMB scholar talkign about any hint of religious intolerance. Does he expect the govt just to sit back and watch as these gangs of savages roam the countryside, burning churches, hacking civilians all non-Muslims to death?
I don't get these people like Al- Mariam Fanta blah blah Defabachew Kurabachew.
"Dinkem" Scholar! These ex-Marxists want to hop on the saddle of power at any expense!
11/03/12 @ 11:30
Comment from: Jihad On The March [Visitor]
Jenny Vaughan: Do Muslims in Ethiopia pose a legitimate (extremist) threat to the country and region?
Alemayehu Fentaw: There’s very little evidence to support the claim that Ethiopian Muslims pose a legitimate threat to national and regional security. However, there’s a universal consensus among analysts worth the name that Somalia and Sudan are exporters not only of political Islam, but also of Islamic terrorism. This again is not a universal claim about Muslims in Ethiopia. There could be individual Muslim proselytizers bent on using violence. There were a few incidents of violence, but it takes an independent commission to investigate into the claims. I don’t personally buy the government’s claims.
Was this guy sleeping in a cave for the past 5 years? Did he hear about the Jimma Massacre? Does he think that Muslims jsut wage an alll-out war at once?
They start on smaller scale and gain momentum until they turn into movements like Boko Haram in Nigeria that is wreaking havoc on Christians and other Non-muslims in the Northern States.
I think the government is in its legitimate rights to interfere in the affairs of an organization that has a potential to turn into a violent group. Besides the so called Muslims want it in the Mosques so that they can intimidate, exhort and forcethe voters into electing the ones the Wahabbis want elected....So Good job GOE in makign sure that these cruel savages won't get their way.
Alemayehu Fentaw: There’s very little evidence to support the claim that Ethiopian Muslims pose a legitimate threat to national and regional security. However, there’s a universal consensus among analysts worth the name that Somalia and Sudan are exporters not only of political Islam, but also of Islamic terrorism. This again is not a universal claim about Muslims in Ethiopia. There could be individual Muslim proselytizers bent on using violence. There were a few incidents of violence, but it takes an independent commission to investigate into the claims. I don’t personally buy the government’s claims.
Was this guy sleeping in a cave for the past 5 years? Did he hear about the Jimma Massacre? Does he think that Muslims jsut wage an alll-out war at once?
They start on smaller scale and gain momentum until they turn into movements like Boko Haram in Nigeria that is wreaking havoc on Christians and other Non-muslims in the Northern States.
I think the government is in its legitimate rights to interfere in the affairs of an organization that has a potential to turn into a violent group. Besides the so called Muslims want it in the Mosques so that they can intimidate, exhort and forcethe voters into electing the ones the Wahabbis want elected....So Good job GOE in makign sure that these cruel savages won't get their way.
11/03/12 @ 12:21
Comment from: Ethiopia is ruled by Eritreans and not by Tigreans [Visitor]
In my opinion, the problem is that there are eritreans in the governement, who decide on policy issues. Whether we like it or not, eritreans like Bereket Simon, General Mohammed Younis, Abay Tsehaye, Seyoum Mesfin etc work against unity of ethiopian muslims and christians. These eritreans in the governemnt of Ethiopia have been trying to drive a wedge among ethiopian religious communities and language communities. The isssue becomes then that of allowing ethiopians administer Ethiopia. Our muslim citizens could be radical, but this does not matter a long as they stand for Ethiopia. I can imagine Ethiopia being an Islamic State if the muslim population has a better national programme. But it is now difficult for Ethiopians to see what agenda each group has. Ethiopia is infiltrated by Shaebya agents or eritreans. The first thing we have to do is to make sure there is a government ruled by Ethiopians. To do this, we need to deport all eritreans and Tigreans sympathetic to Eritrea.
Ethiopian christians will stand in solidarity with ethiopian muslims in order to overthrow the EPRDF regime. EPRDF is an eritrean Trojan Horse and anti-Ethiopia. If EPRDF is overthrown, then we can impliment policies that gaurante equality to al religious groups and communities.
Ethiopian christians will stand in solidarity with ethiopian muslims in order to overthrow the EPRDF regime. EPRDF is an eritrean Trojan Horse and anti-Ethiopia. If EPRDF is overthrown, then we can impliment policies that gaurante equality to al religious groups and communities.
11/03/12 @ 12:41
Comment from: aboshemane [Visitor]
My only concern about this is tied to recent phenomena in Ethiopia related to burning of churches and attacking christian believers in moslem dominated areas of Ethiopia.
11/03/12 @ 12:51
Comment from: Jihad Is For Losers [Visitor]
aboshemane,
How did you figure that out, big genius?
What else is the concern? It's not that they want to get rid of TPLF because they're Eritreans or Tigreans or Martians. Muslims have no problem if all Eritreasn ruled over Ethiopians as long as they worship 5 times facign Mecca and recite stupid verses from the Qoran ad nauseam!
You people still don't get it? Do you? Islam isn't about ethnicity or Nationalism. If Arabs invade the whole Horn and impsed Sharia and called them Abd Kelb all day long as long as it's Sharia as their law the negros can't be happier.
That's why they're killing fellow negroes in Nigeria for soem dumb ass Bedouin loser who had to resort to wanton violence to persuade people who thought he was an ignorant fellaheen who lost his mind in some caves.
I'm talking about Muhammad ( May Allah make him his b**** in hell)
How did you figure that out, big genius?
What else is the concern? It's not that they want to get rid of TPLF because they're Eritreans or Tigreans or Martians. Muslims have no problem if all Eritreasn ruled over Ethiopians as long as they worship 5 times facign Mecca and recite stupid verses from the Qoran ad nauseam!
You people still don't get it? Do you? Islam isn't about ethnicity or Nationalism. If Arabs invade the whole Horn and impsed Sharia and called them Abd Kelb all day long as long as it's Sharia as their law the negros can't be happier.
That's why they're killing fellow negroes in Nigeria for soem dumb ass Bedouin loser who had to resort to wanton violence to persuade people who thought he was an ignorant fellaheen who lost his mind in some caves.
I'm talking about Muhammad ( May Allah make him his b**** in hell)
11/03/12 @ 14:54
Comment from: Meles Zenawi [Visitor]
Nay ya all wayannes!! Know this! Your days are numbered. We will fight you to death until you all gone from our motherland. You don't represent the proud Tigre community at all. You are just one bunch of looters and agasese, jib, tinib anisa, blood suckers. There is no language to talk with you. You must be dealt only by force. You have never acted Ethiopian. So we don't believe you are Ethiopian. Thank you for hurting our Muslim brothers and sisters this bad and this overt. Now is a time to unite all of your freedom seeking forces and root all the woyannes out and send them where they have to belong. No beg to wayannes anymore. They never have hearts and minds to start with to hear our peoples agonies. They are just one big leach sucking our Ethiopia to death. The world know that. We all know that. The time for you to be gone once and for all has riped. Please hear me all true Ethiopian, lets help our Muslims brothers and sisters and oust these Rodents out of our country so all people enjoy freedom and justice. Death to all woyannes!
11/03/12 @ 16:20
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
Is this going to dominate Eprdfs politika for the day, week, month...?
Really? are we going to get occupied with another Tplf/Ehadeg bull? To begin with, all this hate is a production of the Eprdf govt. Divide and rule, people!!!
Not to down play concerns that may exist, based on previous events, it is important to understand what the leading reason here/today is. Based on that the government should refrain from trying to impose its will not only on religion but on everyone else. Ehadeg is not only a muslim problem my people, it is a problem for all Ethiopians, religious or not. Also, you all should really refrain from this hate you all spew on Nazret.com
cause you both believe in the same creator, I suggest you idiots respect each others fake religions.
Well, if it were up to me, I would knock down most mosqs and churches and build schools and hospitals.. but whatever dudes, if yo'll are not smart enough to know you are fighting over an intangible issue.
Really? are we going to get occupied with another Tplf/Ehadeg bull? To begin with, all this hate is a production of the Eprdf govt. Divide and rule, people!!!
Not to down play concerns that may exist, based on previous events, it is important to understand what the leading reason here/today is. Based on that the government should refrain from trying to impose its will not only on religion but on everyone else. Ehadeg is not only a muslim problem my people, it is a problem for all Ethiopians, religious or not. Also, you all should really refrain from this hate you all spew on Nazret.com
cause you both believe in the same creator, I suggest you idiots respect each others fake religions.Well, if it were up to me, I would knock down most mosqs and churches and build schools and hospitals.. but whatever dudes, if yo'll are not smart enough to know you are fighting over an intangible issue.
11/03/12 @ 20:27
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Hagere Ethiopia aka, Ethioman,...
Put down your melekiya areqe atleast once and let's hear your sober belief and arguements.
Why do you want to divert the spot light from islamic extrimism which has become the whole world's problem?
Are you one of those losers in the diaspora who think any destablizing factor in Ethiopia means a way for their cake walk to the promised land of arat kilo?
What do you think of the whole situation all over the world about terrorist muslim extrimists who believe only in killing and destroying everything, ie. The bokko arram in Nigeria, the muslim extrimists who took power in Malli, the tallibans who are still terrorizing Afganistan and Pakistan, alshebab in Somalia and Kenya, and shabia.
The situation about the muslims demonstrating every weekend is the same planned dream to make Ethiopia a land of outlaws and terror.
These muslim extrimists in Ethiopia have nothing to do with islam or any religion in that matter. They're only messengers of destruction and chaos, fueled by their own satanic belief of making Ethiopia a muslim nation ruled by sheria law.
What makes me sad above all is, the losers like you who chose the extrimist way of dismantling Ethiopia for what ever future there will be against a stable, developmental and progressive Ethiopia we see now, just for the sake of your prijudice and hatred against our govt.
Put down your melekiya areqe atleast once and let's hear your sober belief and arguements.
Why do you want to divert the spot light from islamic extrimism which has become the whole world's problem?
Are you one of those losers in the diaspora who think any destablizing factor in Ethiopia means a way for their cake walk to the promised land of arat kilo?
What do you think of the whole situation all over the world about terrorist muslim extrimists who believe only in killing and destroying everything, ie. The bokko arram in Nigeria, the muslim extrimists who took power in Malli, the tallibans who are still terrorizing Afganistan and Pakistan, alshebab in Somalia and Kenya, and shabia.
The situation about the muslims demonstrating every weekend is the same planned dream to make Ethiopia a land of outlaws and terror.
These muslim extrimists in Ethiopia have nothing to do with islam or any religion in that matter. They're only messengers of destruction and chaos, fueled by their own satanic belief of making Ethiopia a muslim nation ruled by sheria law.
What makes me sad above all is, the losers like you who chose the extrimist way of dismantling Ethiopia for what ever future there will be against a stable, developmental and progressive Ethiopia we see now, just for the sake of your prijudice and hatred against our govt.
11/04/12 @ 08:45
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
Losers like me eh AZ? Losers who drink areke in America? Really.. is that the best you can do?
First of all, I remember telling you I do not drink, second I have a great life in America. I just voted for my main man Obama, I am living the dream of every human on earth which is the right to my God given freedom to give my opinion without fear, to treat other as I would like to be treated and most of all to have the respect for the opinion of those I disagree with, even you. Based on that I will not disclose your favorite Tej bet where you get wasted daily.. just kidding.
Az, it is your right to support whoever you feel is the right choice for you, too bad it has to be Ehadeg, well, you are a woyane it is expected since you guys roll like that, ethnic stuff and all. But what is good for you, may not be necessarily good for me. Respect that.
Having explained you..
Are you saying all Ethiopian Islam followers are terrorists? No need to answer that because that is what the Eprdf government is doing. I see no need for violence against the Muslim of Ethiopia based on Eprdfs accusations. They are known LIARS. These Muslims you call terrorists ARE Ethiopians, as such the Ethiopian govt must take dialog with them. I know for a fact your leaders will not do that from past experience. But, what I am saying is it is better to not push this issue out of control. Why? Because we are not at a good point in time to provoke any up rising that may lead to an armed confrontation that may lead to a bloody religious.. get my drift? Plus it will be bad for the woyane 11% growth. War, unrest and any forced solution will be bad for the economy and the human cost that comes with it. We have done enough of that. So, what am I saying? I am asying give dialog a chance, let cooler heads prevail.. doesnt that sound great? It is even better when it is practiced. Now, would a "loser diaspora destablizer" tell you that it will be bad for Ethiopia..? so you see I am not looking for a "destablizing factor as a looser diaspora" Im looking for a better end to a situation Ethiopia is NOT ready for. We do not want more trouble while we have not solved whats already on the table. Sorry to disappoint you boy but I, just like you, wish the best for Ethiopia. Our only difference is that you belong to Woyane/Tplf/Eprdf and I do not. Understand being against Eprdf/Tplf is not being against Ethiopia. Eprdf/Tplf is NOT Ethiopia. See the clear distinction there, boy?
By the way did you ever look up the word diaspora? Just asking if you know what it means. Another Q, would you rather I go back to EthioMan? I thought HagerEthiopia would not be as constipating to you as EthioMan. Anyhooo, What is happening all over the world does not have to happen in Ethiopia if the Eprdf does its job right.
Long Live Ethiopia Equal to all!!
EthioMan!!!
First of all, I remember telling you I do not drink, second I have a great life in America. I just voted for my main man Obama, I am living the dream of every human on earth which is the right to my God given freedom to give my opinion without fear, to treat other as I would like to be treated and most of all to have the respect for the opinion of those I disagree with, even you. Based on that I will not disclose your favorite Tej bet where you get wasted daily.. just kidding.
Az, it is your right to support whoever you feel is the right choice for you, too bad it has to be Ehadeg, well, you are a woyane it is expected since you guys roll like that, ethnic stuff and all. But what is good for you, may not be necessarily good for me. Respect that.
Having explained you..
Are you saying all Ethiopian Islam followers are terrorists? No need to answer that because that is what the Eprdf government is doing. I see no need for violence against the Muslim of Ethiopia based on Eprdfs accusations. They are known LIARS. These Muslims you call terrorists ARE Ethiopians, as such the Ethiopian govt must take dialog with them. I know for a fact your leaders will not do that from past experience. But, what I am saying is it is better to not push this issue out of control. Why? Because we are not at a good point in time to provoke any up rising that may lead to an armed confrontation that may lead to a bloody religious.. get my drift? Plus it will be bad for the woyane 11% growth. War, unrest and any forced solution will be bad for the economy and the human cost that comes with it. We have done enough of that. So, what am I saying? I am asying give dialog a chance, let cooler heads prevail.. doesnt that sound great? It is even better when it is practiced. Now, would a "loser diaspora destablizer" tell you that it will be bad for Ethiopia..? so you see I am not looking for a "destablizing factor as a looser diaspora" Im looking for a better end to a situation Ethiopia is NOT ready for. We do not want more trouble while we have not solved whats already on the table. Sorry to disappoint you boy but I, just like you, wish the best for Ethiopia. Our only difference is that you belong to Woyane/Tplf/Eprdf and I do not. Understand being against Eprdf/Tplf is not being against Ethiopia. Eprdf/Tplf is NOT Ethiopia. See the clear distinction there, boy?
By the way did you ever look up the word diaspora? Just asking if you know what it means. Another Q, would you rather I go back to EthioMan? I thought HagerEthiopia would not be as constipating to you as EthioMan. Anyhooo, What is happening all over the world does not have to happen in Ethiopia if the Eprdf does its job right.
Long Live Ethiopia Equal to all!!
EthioMan!!!
11/04/12 @ 17:39
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Addis Ass,
You better shut off your mouth. The posts you leave here are being followed. You are a true liar and friend of the criminal gangs that control Addis Ababa. We are not dumb to follow your stinky comments. People please ignore responding to this idiot man. His aim is to target Ethiopia as hot bed for radicalism so he can actually make us look suspicion. He already succeeded by increasing the pressure on diaspora Muslims by requiring them to get naked photo on passport. He will continue to do that and make the life of every Ethiopian Muslim miserable.
The protest in Ethiopia has no agenda except respect for all muslims and that is "don't touch my religion, don't say for me". I have a right to eat with who every I want to and that is my belief. I don't hate any one. I can dress like a Sadui or a Morrocan and Meles is not my dady to teach me what is best for me. This is ridiculous interference. Plus those who are now in jail have not asked to lead they have been asked to lead and this is already in the public. The public already signed with their telephone numbers and addresses. All of the people will say that we are still with the leaders. The leaders never said anything against the will of the people. Instead, Wayane disregarded the people and instead found the leaders to be the victims because it knows it can not touch the people. But the people are ready. This is unexpected of any ruler.
At any rate, we have to know that this is ridiculous attempt by the wayanes and it will exposed soon.
You better shut off your mouth. The posts you leave here are being followed. You are a true liar and friend of the criminal gangs that control Addis Ababa. We are not dumb to follow your stinky comments. People please ignore responding to this idiot man. His aim is to target Ethiopia as hot bed for radicalism so he can actually make us look suspicion. He already succeeded by increasing the pressure on diaspora Muslims by requiring them to get naked photo on passport. He will continue to do that and make the life of every Ethiopian Muslim miserable.
The protest in Ethiopia has no agenda except respect for all muslims and that is "don't touch my religion, don't say for me". I have a right to eat with who every I want to and that is my belief. I don't hate any one. I can dress like a Sadui or a Morrocan and Meles is not my dady to teach me what is best for me. This is ridiculous interference. Plus those who are now in jail have not asked to lead they have been asked to lead and this is already in the public. The public already signed with their telephone numbers and addresses. All of the people will say that we are still with the leaders. The leaders never said anything against the will of the people. Instead, Wayane disregarded the people and instead found the leaders to be the victims because it knows it can not touch the people. But the people are ready. This is unexpected of any ruler.
At any rate, we have to know that this is ridiculous attempt by the wayanes and it will exposed soon.
11/05/12 @ 09:47
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
As you have the right to claim what you see right, so does the addis zemen. You for one, just like him have extrimist tendancies. You don't see others telling you to shut up. Do you?
from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Addis Ass,
You better shut off your mouth.
Frankly, either way.. both extremes are bad for Ethiopia. We can sit here and attack each other till we turn blue in the face, but in the end if it is Eprdf's dictatorship or Islamic extremism, the Ethiopian people have gained nothing.
Gran Ahmed,
If it is, as you say, your rights to vote for your religious leaders you rise up for, good for you, but if it is a control issue instigated by say.. Egypt to create unrest to thwart the Nile dam project or Saudis or al-quedas control of the Horn of Africa, or shabias shitty agenda, or whatever the other side extremists say, then where does that leave Ethiopians?
The many Ethiopians do not care for all this except to carry on with their lives and exercise their God given rights to self rule. It is as simple as that till religious fools or political fakups take over the state. I mean where were you in 2005 when Meles killed all those peole and took total control of the rights of Ethiopians, Muslims included. Where were you people then? Why did you not ask why then? Did you not feel it was your problem as long as it was not touching you? Well its touching you now and some are suspicious of the involvement of Egypt and Saudi. What does that say about your protest?
So, not to take away from your effort here but.. I find you to be more of a hypocrite and an Islamist than an Ethiopian rights driven advocate. Give your self a break and call yourself what you are. As your name implies, you are an Islamist extremist who calls Ethiopian Christians "copts". What is that all about? And how do you and others like you expect to be seen as? As sure as I am that addisz is a woyane cadre, you are An extremist Islam. I will not call you a terrorist yet.. well, I have yet to have proof that you blew up yourself intending to kill infidels and go to heaven. Really?
Needless to say Ethiopians of all religions do not need you and your extremist views nor Eprdf and its idiotic cadres. I await the day when Ethiopians will be free of both dictatorships. Namely religion and Eprdf.
Hang in there that day is not far when religion will have nothing what so ever to do with politics. As the saying goes, "Hager yegara new.. Haymanot yegle new"
Peace to all Ethiopians!!
from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Addis Ass,
You better shut off your mouth.
Frankly, either way.. both extremes are bad for Ethiopia. We can sit here and attack each other till we turn blue in the face, but in the end if it is Eprdf's dictatorship or Islamic extremism, the Ethiopian people have gained nothing.
Gran Ahmed,
If it is, as you say, your rights to vote for your religious leaders you rise up for, good for you, but if it is a control issue instigated by say.. Egypt to create unrest to thwart the Nile dam project or Saudis or al-quedas control of the Horn of Africa, or shabias shitty agenda, or whatever the other side extremists say, then where does that leave Ethiopians?
The many Ethiopians do not care for all this except to carry on with their lives and exercise their God given rights to self rule. It is as simple as that till religious fools or political fakups take over the state. I mean where were you in 2005 when Meles killed all those peole and took total control of the rights of Ethiopians, Muslims included. Where were you people then? Why did you not ask why then? Did you not feel it was your problem as long as it was not touching you? Well its touching you now and some are suspicious of the involvement of Egypt and Saudi. What does that say about your protest?
So, not to take away from your effort here but.. I find you to be more of a hypocrite and an Islamist than an Ethiopian rights driven advocate. Give your self a break and call yourself what you are. As your name implies, you are an Islamist extremist who calls Ethiopian Christians "copts". What is that all about? And how do you and others like you expect to be seen as? As sure as I am that addisz is a woyane cadre, you are An extremist Islam. I will not call you a terrorist yet.. well, I have yet to have proof that you blew up yourself intending to kill infidels and go to heaven. Really?
Needless to say Ethiopians of all religions do not need you and your extremist views nor Eprdf and its idiotic cadres. I await the day when Ethiopians will be free of both dictatorships. Namely religion and Eprdf.
Hang in there that day is not far when religion will have nothing what so ever to do with politics. As the saying goes, "Hager yegara new.. Haymanot yegle new"
Peace to all Ethiopians!!
11/05/12 @ 12:48
Comment from: Habesha [Visitor]
Addis Zemen
In response to previous comment, You said:
"Oh really? A stinky wanna be extrimist like you is easy to detect. Because before you even open your mouth, one can smeel your stinky ass miles away"
This is abosolutly pointless and worthless statement.In fact only losers utter such nonesense, and as a result future articles with the name "Addis Zemen" will automaticaly blackout most readers' minds. You may address the issue instead of being rendered useless by the readers. If you still enjoy trash talking, either go back to school to educate yourself or go back to a village and finish your childhood. Otherwise, don't waste readers' time as there are real important issues to talk about.
In response to previous comment, You said:
"Oh really? A stinky wanna be extrimist like you is easy to detect. Because before you even open your mouth, one can smeel your stinky ass miles away"
This is abosolutly pointless and worthless statement.In fact only losers utter such nonesense, and as a result future articles with the name "Addis Zemen" will automaticaly blackout most readers' minds. You may address the issue instead of being rendered useless by the readers. If you still enjoy trash talking, either go back to school to educate yourself or go back to a village and finish your childhood. Otherwise, don't waste readers' time as there are real important issues to talk about.
11/06/12 @ 00:22
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