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ETHIOPIA: GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO TARGET PEACEFUL MUSLIM PROTEST MOVEMENT
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ETHIOPIA: GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO TARGET PEACEFUL MUSLIM PROTEST MOVEMENT
Ethiopia government continues to target peaceful Muslim protest movement says Amnesty International
ETHIOPIA: GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO TARGET PEACEFUL MUSLIM PROTEST MOVEMENT
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
PUBLIC STATEMENT
2 November 2012
AI Index: AFR 25/016/2012
Ethiopia: Government continues to target peaceful Muslim protest movement
The Ethiopian authorities are committing human rights violations in response to the ongoing Muslim protest movement in the country. Large numbers of protestors have been arrested, many of whom remain in detention. There are also numerous reports of police using excessive force against peaceful demonstrators. Key figures within the movement have been charged with terrorism offences. Most of those arrested and charged appear to have been targeted solely because of their participation in a peaceful protest movement.
Tens of thousands of Muslims have participated in regular peaceful protests throughout 2012, opposing alleged government interference in Islamic affairs. Protestors accuse the government of attempting to impose the teachings of the Al Ahbash sect of Islam on the Muslim community and of interference in elections for the Supreme Council of Islamic Affairs.
Ethiopia’s Constitution prohibits state involvement in religious affairs. The Constitution also contains an expansive provision on the right to peacefully protest, which is routinely flouted by the authorities.
Allegations of excessive use of force by police
An incident that occurred in Gerba town, in the South Wollo zone of the Amhara region, on Sunday 21 October -during which police officers fired on civilians, killing at least three people and injuring others - raises serious questions about the use of deadly force against protestors. In speaking about the incident to the media, the government confirmed the three deaths but claimed that protestors had attacked a police station armed with machetes and hand guns to try to secure the release of another protestor who had been arrested earlier in the day. The government also stated that a police officer was killed in the alleged attack. However, the protestors report that they had peacefully demanded and secured the release of the arrested person during the morning of 21 October and the protest had subsequently dispersed. Later in the day federal police, called in as reinforcements, arrived at the mosque in Gerba town and opened fire, targeting people coming out of the mosque as well as others in the vicinity. One man told Amnesty International that he had seen a police officer killed in the ensuing violence. Other witnesses said they could not confirm any police deaths. An unknown number of arrests are reported to have taken place during the incident on 21 October and more arrests reportedly occurred in the aftermath of the incident, including the arrests of people who spoke to the media about events.
Amnesty International has previously reported on similar, incidents of police allegedly using excessive force. In July Amnesty International called for an investigation into two incidents – at Awalia and Anwar mosques in Addis Ababa – in relation to which numerous allegations were made about excessive use of force by police, including firing live ammunition and beating protestors in the street and in detention, resulting in many injuries among protestors. However, no investigation has taken place to Amnesty International’s knowledge.
Amnesty International is also calling for an independent investigation into an incident that took place in Asasa town, Arsi district, Oromia region in April in which the police reportedly shot dead at least four people. Reports about the incident from the government and from those involved differ widely. The violence is reported to have occurred when the police attempted to arrest an Imam from the mosque. In statements to the press after the event, the government stated that supporters of the Imam attacked the police station to try to secure his release. However, local sources told the media that the police had opened fire in the town when supporters tried to prevent the man’s arrest. The government claimed the Imam had been preaching extremist ideology. However the protestors claim that the attempted arrest was because the Imam had refused to undergo ‘training’ in Al Ahbash ideology, which the government had made obligatory for Muslim preachers.
Use of Anti-Terrorism legislation against leaders of peaceful protest movement
On 29 October, 28 men and one woman were formally charged with ‘terrorist acts’ and ‘planning…, incitement and attempt of terrorist acts’ under the Anti-Terrorism Proclamation (2009) in relation to their involvement in the protest movement. Two Muslim organisations were also charged under the same law with ‘rendering support to terrorism.’ Those charged include nine members of the committee selected by the Muslim community to represent their grievances to the government, and one journalist, Yusuf Getachew, who works for the publication Ye’Muslimoch Guday (Muslim Affairs).
These individuals appear to have been arrested and charged solely because they exercised their human rights to freedom of expression and to participate in a peaceful protest movement. Since its introduction in 2009 the excessively broad Anti-Terrorism Proclamation has predominantly been used to prosecute dissenters and critics of the government, including journalists and members of political opposition parties.
At least 24 of those charged on 29 October were arrested in mid-July and have been held on remand under the Anti-Terrorism Proclamation, which allows for up to four months of investigative detention without charge. The defendants were detained illegally for the last five days before the charges were brought, after the police and prosecutors failed to turn up to a hearing on 24 October at which they were required to present charges and evidence, causing the judge to declare the case closed, according to one of the lawyers for the defendants. However, the judge did not order the release of the group, who were then brought to court on 29 October and charged.
A senior representative of the government told Amnesty International that the arrested individuals instigated violence and were trying to undermine the Constitution under the guise of religion. Similar statements from other senior members of the government have also been reported in the media. Amnesty International is concerned that, in a country where the government has significant influence over the courts, these comments may undermine the right of the accused to presumption of innocence.
The government has repeatedly attempted to paint the protest movement as violent and terrorist-related in statements to the media and in parliament. However, the vast majority of the protests are reported to be peaceful, and peaceful tactics have repeatedly been used by the protestors, including silent demonstrations and holding up white material, paper and ribbons as a sign of peaceful intent. While a few isolated incidents of violence have occurred, these have taken place during episodes where excessive police force is alleged. According to the accounts of the protestors, it was the actions of the police that triggered a violent response. Independent investigations are required to establish the course of events during these incidents.
Continued arrests and detention of peaceful protestors
Since July, when large numbers of arrests took place and incidents occurred at Awalia and Anwar mosques in Addis Ababa, protests have continued to take place in several regions, including in the towns of Dessie, Jimma, Harar, Shashemene, Adama, Bati, Kemise, and Robe. In addition to the original grievances of the movement, the protestors also demonstrated against the continued detention of members of the committee chosen to represent the Muslim community’s grievances to the government. Arrests, arbitrary detention and harassment of protestors are reported to have taken place in a number of locations.� Many of these reports have included allegations of police beating protestors, and the use of tear gas against peaceful demonstrations has been alleged in at least two locations.
Many demonstrations occurred in advance of elections for the Supreme Council of Islamic Affairs, which took place on 7 October. Although the long delay in holding the elections was one of the central grievances of the movement, the protestors raised several serious concerns in relation to the elections, including: the fact that the elections took place while their chosen representatives remained in detention; the level of control the government had over the poll; and the rejection of the protestors’ long-standing demand that the elections should be held in mosques instead of in kebele (local administration) offices. Demonstrators also allege that the government was coercing voters in advance of the election, threatening the withdrawal of access to state resources and other repercussions for those who did not vote. In statements made to Amnesty International and to the media, members of the protest movement have reported that a significant proportion of the Muslim community boycotted the poll, although the government declared the elections a success.
It is not known how many protestors are now in detention. Hundreds of arrests have been made over recent months. Of the large numbers who were arrested around the two July incidents, as reported by Amnesty International on 25 July, many were detained for a few days and subsequently released. However, an unknown number remain in detention, in Maikelawi, Ziway and other detention centres.
Efforts to prevent reporting on the government’s response to the protests
The government has sought to prevent reporting on the protest movement. Two colleagues of Yusuf Getachew from Ye’Muslimoch Guday fled the country after Yusuf was arrested and their own houses were searched. Neither Ye’Muslimoch Guday nor two other Muslim publications - weeklies Selefiah and Sewtul Islam - have been published since the July events. A correspondent for Voice of America was temporarily detained on 5 October in Addis Ababa while reporting on protests against the Supreme Council elections, and was told to delete any interviews she had recorded with protestors.
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The response of the Ethiopian government to the protest movement has involved widespread violations of human rights. There has been almost no effort on the part of the authorities to engage with the protestors on their grievances or to put in place mechanisms for dialogue.
Amnesty International believes that the majority, if not all of those arrested, have been detained for exercising their right to peaceful protest, as protected under the Ethiopian Constitution and international law. The organization is calling on the Ethiopian authorities to release immediately and unconditionally any individuals who have been detained for their participation in protest actions. All detainees who remain in detention without charge must be brought swiftly before a judicial authority. Where credible evidence of a criminal offence exists people must be charged promptly, or should be immediately and unconditionally released. All detainees must have their rights in detention upheld, be provided with full access to legal representatives, medical care if they require it and to family members.
The reports of police use of excessive force against protestors in Gerba on 21 October, in Addis Ababa in July and in Asasa in April, must be properly investigated through processes that meet international standards in relation to impartiality and credibility. If enough admissible evidence of crimes is found, suspected perpetrators should be prosecuted in effective trial proceedings that meet international standards.
These incidents have been reported in local and Diaspora media, on social media sites, and in information submitted directly to Amnesty International.
87 comments
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Peaceful protest my foot in your where the sun never shines, stupid Amnesty international.
The other day I heard them advocating for the Bokko arram group telling us their rights was not respected. What right? The right to blow up churches everyweekend? A right to blow up and kill innocent children and women?
How do you tell us now medling in our country's internal issue as if we abuse the rights of the extrimist muslims? Are you telling us to wait untill they turn our peaceful nation a land of blood and terrorism?
Amnesty international for criminals and terrorists, hands off from our peaceful and prosperious nation. A stupid is what a stupid does. That's all you're. Losers!!!
The other day I heard them advocating for the Bokko arram group telling us their rights was not respected. What right? The right to blow up churches everyweekend? A right to blow up and kill innocent children and women?
How do you tell us now medling in our country's internal issue as if we abuse the rights of the extrimist muslims? Are you telling us to wait untill they turn our peaceful nation a land of blood and terrorism?
Amnesty international for criminals and terrorists, hands off from our peaceful and prosperious nation. A stupid is what a stupid does. That's all you're. Losers!!!
11/04/12 @ 11:15
Comment from: Taye [Visitor]
2 days ago Amnesty international issued same type of statement in favor of Boko Haram militants of Nigeria.Both Ethiopian protesters and Bako aram are the same type of fanatic Salafi sect.The only difference between them is that Bako aram is equipped with gunnes and bombs whereas our salafists are not equipped with bomb for the time being.
11/04/12 @ 12:04
Comment from: Mr. Really [Visitor]
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL!!!! Really?! Anyone well read and informed about this pointless organization, how and why this organization established, who funds them ... should not be shocked and disappointed by their 'shoot first and ask later' policy towards Africa particularly Ethiopia! They never do this in the west where lots of human right abusing going on as well.
AMNESTY! Do you know what the different Islamic groups are asking for in Ethiopia? Do you have any data this groups have done in the name of religion freedom in Ethiopia? Do you know how they are funded and who they fund? Most importantly, What is these groups implication for national security of Ethiopia??? Any country has a right to protect its citizens by any means from outside invaders! There is no problem at all with Ethiopian government and Islam or peaceful religion. The problem is AMNESTY and it's policy towards Ethiopia. FYI: I am not support of the present Ethiopian government!!
AMNESTY! Do you know what the different Islamic groups are asking for in Ethiopia? Do you have any data this groups have done in the name of religion freedom in Ethiopia? Do you know how they are funded and who they fund? Most importantly, What is these groups implication for national security of Ethiopia??? Any country has a right to protect its citizens by any means from outside invaders! There is no problem at all with Ethiopian government and Islam or peaceful religion. The problem is AMNESTY and it's policy towards Ethiopia. FYI: I am not support of the present Ethiopian government!!
11/04/12 @ 12:05
Comment from: Gemech [Visitor]
It has been a long time since I lost faith in Amnesty International's sincerity and accuracy of reports. \if they can say this about the situation that i know very well, how can \I trust what they say about other countries?
Since when has peaceful demonstration become burning churches, shooting at the police, burning buses and disrupting economic activities.
Since when has peaceful demonstration become burning churches, shooting at the police, burning buses and disrupting economic activities.
11/04/12 @ 12:10
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Hateful and failed Amnesty International: Go to Syria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Mali, Egypt, Indonesia, and other terrorist Muslim countries and protect the minority Christians who have been unjustly humiliated, persecuted, jailed, and killed there. Don’t meddle in the Ethiopian Christian affairs: the Ethiopian Christian government has the responsibility to arrest and kill the lawless Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims. These criminal Jihadist Muslims have been plotting to overthrow the Ethiopian Christian government and to establish their own Islamic rule in the Christian land of Ethiopia. We don’t want our Christian country to be ruled by Jihadist Muslims under their barbaric Sharia law. Ethiopia will never accept an Islamic rule, an Islamic government, and an Islamic doctrine of the devil – Muhammad the false Prophet. We refuse to admit the misguided statements of Amnesty International. The Ethiopian Government has never arrested or killed any peaceful demonstrators except the lawless and extremist terrorist Muslims.
We don’t need Amnesty International to tell us what we have done and what we are going to do to our own people. We have the right to detain, to persecute, and to kill if the criminals have rejected to follow our rules and orders. We don’t want to see our country to be like Syria, Pakistan, and Mali because of these outlandish Muslim terrorists. Why doesn’t Amnesty International go to Saudi Arabia and tell the Saudi to stop exporting their Muslim terrorist Wahabbists and sending them to us to destabilize our Christian country? I can understand now Amnesty International has become the main shield of Islamist terrorists, and its main concern is to protect the criminals instead of the peace-loving civilians.
We don’t need Amnesty International to tell us what we have done and what we are going to do to our own people. We have the right to detain, to persecute, and to kill if the criminals have rejected to follow our rules and orders. We don’t want to see our country to be like Syria, Pakistan, and Mali because of these outlandish Muslim terrorists. Why doesn’t Amnesty International go to Saudi Arabia and tell the Saudi to stop exporting their Muslim terrorist Wahabbists and sending them to us to destabilize our Christian country? I can understand now Amnesty International has become the main shield of Islamist terrorists, and its main concern is to protect the criminals instead of the peace-loving civilians.
11/04/12 @ 12:16
Comment from: yosef [Visitor]
Amnesty international is a joke if it is peaceful demonstration there will not be a problem
11/04/12 @ 12:22
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
I told you all these western countries new colonial weapon are Amnesty international , Environment activist, Doctors without border etc....all parasites charities....
Amnesty is full of A hom&@xxmo and les&@xxbian org. Invite them to Ethiopia and drop them into Active volcano in one of Ethiopia volcano from helicopter.
Amnesty is full of A hom&@xxmo and les&@xxbian org. Invite them to Ethiopia and drop them into Active volcano in one of Ethiopia volcano from helicopter.
11/04/12 @ 12:39
Comment from: elias [Visitor]
we ethiopian muslim winning so far,we are continue peaceful protest,it is very bad time for woyane then we will show red for woyane,we protest very civilized way.
11/04/12 @ 13:07
Comment from: Novel [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed,
Whenever you or your core values are at risk, you have the right to defend with "relevant" way possible. This applies to all mankind regardless of their religion or race.That's it! (I am NOT Muslim, or I'm a Christian!). No one has the right to insult you, your religion or core values. Period!
But what's your point?? Just tell me: what is the NEW and CURRENT problem you (and other Muslims) have? Something new? Just tell me, please?
Let me tell you, what I know. Even if there have been times when religious conflicts boiled in Ethiopia, there were times, as you witnessed in your post, that so called Christians murdered Muslims and Muslims also murdered Christians. If you want to cite such history so as to make your CURRENT point I dont think that's right since much more of our history embodies mutual respect, tolerance and cooperation (and you know it!).
To be honest, I can say there is NO time in Ethiopian history that all religions, especially Muslims have enjoyed their religious rights (as byproduct of the system, at least). Thousands of Mosques have been built amongst so many Christian neighborhoods! In some parts of the country, there are much more "private" mosques than schools, health centers..etc which the Muslims also need! There has always (increasingly)been media coverage of Muslims holidays than ever before! Be it in Europe, Seattle (where you may live now) or any so called "secular" government, there is NO curfew that all Christians are "forced" to observe in every Fridays because of your "Jum'a"! So many examples I can mention, but I can see..you know it!
Does this mean everything is OK for you Muslims and you shouldn't ask ask for (more) of your right acc to your own perception? NO! But one way we go forward is through giving merit to what has sofar been achieved! You must have given credits for these, they are also results of your effort!
Still there have been times during the current admin, where Churches have been vandalized and desecrated so were Mosques, and YOU KNOW IT! Many Muslims, as you know it, did NOT make such a strike when the police invaded the G. Anwar Mosque! I still do NOT mean that you should be silent now because you were silent then!
Like as you said there are "copts" who tend to like Israelites than their Muslim Ethiopians, there are also so many Muslims who prefer "their" Arab, Egyptian, Syrian,.. to their Ethiopian Christian brothers and sisters! You know it, but still there are lots of Christians and Muslims who would consider their fellow Ethiopian people more than any others!
But what is NEW? Come on, we know it!
It is all about religious-geopolitics!
1)Now that both the "West" and the "fundamentalist" Islamic "sect" have interest in Africa more than ever before,
2)That "some" people in Egypt think they have their historic conflict of interest with Ethiopia (Nile..),
3) Now that Al Shebab is losing ground in Somalia,
4) That there are Islamic "fundamentalist" movements: revolts in many parts of the world,
There has been a focus on Ethiopian Muslims! This is the underlying cause as we all know it! This is what is something NEW! The current religious-geopolitics! As we (you)can be well aware of it, there have been teachings in many Mosques by "some" sheikhs agitating conflicts between Muslims and Christians, like;
1) Citing historic conflicts (as you also did in your post), goading Muslims for retaliations of the past
2) Comparing Ethiopian Muslims with fellow Muslims in the Arab world and telling them that they are weak to have lived peacefully with their fellow Christians,
3) Even directly declaring Jihad on the Christians and some Muslims
We know what has been happening! Many Christians and Muslims have been murdered, their Churches and homes burnt..! At that time the current system didn't do much about this, mainly because of the notion that such "conflicts" would draw people's attention from the government!
Finally, this is my opinion:
1) It's NOT adventure or "holy" to go bitter as you said it in your post (I can imagine you could go bitter because of the insults you mentioned.
2) While making sure that your rights are respected, you (or Christians..anyone) cannot impose any religious ambition in the "secular" system so that we may continue coexisting.
3) ORIGINALLY, we Ethiopians were NOT Jews, Christians NOR Muslims! What makes us different from the rest of the world is that we accepted all these religions PEACEFULLY (as you mentioned it in your post). All other countries have their own bitter history, any "Muslim" country, you name it!Therefore,
3.1)We must NOT disregard our marvelous and unique history AND try to "copy" and "paste" the Middle East..saga! Just give it up, brother!
3.2)We must work to maintain that "holy" legacy rather than declaring death on EVERYONE BECAUSE "Asta Getu, et al" said something wrong! It's shame!
God be with you!
Whenever you or your core values are at risk, you have the right to defend with "relevant" way possible. This applies to all mankind regardless of their religion or race.That's it! (I am NOT Muslim, or I'm a Christian!). No one has the right to insult you, your religion or core values. Period!
But what's your point?? Just tell me: what is the NEW and CURRENT problem you (and other Muslims) have? Something new? Just tell me, please?
Let me tell you, what I know. Even if there have been times when religious conflicts boiled in Ethiopia, there were times, as you witnessed in your post, that so called Christians murdered Muslims and Muslims also murdered Christians. If you want to cite such history so as to make your CURRENT point I dont think that's right since much more of our history embodies mutual respect, tolerance and cooperation (and you know it!).
To be honest, I can say there is NO time in Ethiopian history that all religions, especially Muslims have enjoyed their religious rights (as byproduct of the system, at least). Thousands of Mosques have been built amongst so many Christian neighborhoods! In some parts of the country, there are much more "private" mosques than schools, health centers..etc which the Muslims also need! There has always (increasingly)been media coverage of Muslims holidays than ever before! Be it in Europe, Seattle (where you may live now) or any so called "secular" government, there is NO curfew that all Christians are "forced" to observe in every Fridays because of your "Jum'a"! So many examples I can mention, but I can see..you know it!
Does this mean everything is OK for you Muslims and you shouldn't ask ask for (more) of your right acc to your own perception? NO! But one way we go forward is through giving merit to what has sofar been achieved! You must have given credits for these, they are also results of your effort!
Still there have been times during the current admin, where Churches have been vandalized and desecrated so were Mosques, and YOU KNOW IT! Many Muslims, as you know it, did NOT make such a strike when the police invaded the G. Anwar Mosque! I still do NOT mean that you should be silent now because you were silent then!
Like as you said there are "copts" who tend to like Israelites than their Muslim Ethiopians, there are also so many Muslims who prefer "their" Arab, Egyptian, Syrian,.. to their Ethiopian Christian brothers and sisters! You know it, but still there are lots of Christians and Muslims who would consider their fellow Ethiopian people more than any others!
But what is NEW? Come on, we know it!
It is all about religious-geopolitics!
1)Now that both the "West" and the "fundamentalist" Islamic "sect" have interest in Africa more than ever before,
2)That "some" people in Egypt think they have their historic conflict of interest with Ethiopia (Nile..),
3) Now that Al Shebab is losing ground in Somalia,
4) That there are Islamic "fundamentalist" movements: revolts in many parts of the world,
There has been a focus on Ethiopian Muslims! This is the underlying cause as we all know it! This is what is something NEW! The current religious-geopolitics! As we (you)can be well aware of it, there have been teachings in many Mosques by "some" sheikhs agitating conflicts between Muslims and Christians, like;
1) Citing historic conflicts (as you also did in your post), goading Muslims for retaliations of the past
2) Comparing Ethiopian Muslims with fellow Muslims in the Arab world and telling them that they are weak to have lived peacefully with their fellow Christians,
3) Even directly declaring Jihad on the Christians and some Muslims
We know what has been happening! Many Christians and Muslims have been murdered, their Churches and homes burnt..! At that time the current system didn't do much about this, mainly because of the notion that such "conflicts" would draw people's attention from the government!
Finally, this is my opinion:
1) It's NOT adventure or "holy" to go bitter as you said it in your post (I can imagine you could go bitter because of the insults you mentioned.
2) While making sure that your rights are respected, you (or Christians..anyone) cannot impose any religious ambition in the "secular" system so that we may continue coexisting.
3) ORIGINALLY, we Ethiopians were NOT Jews, Christians NOR Muslims! What makes us different from the rest of the world is that we accepted all these religions PEACEFULLY (as you mentioned it in your post). All other countries have their own bitter history, any "Muslim" country, you name it!Therefore,
3.1)We must NOT disregard our marvelous and unique history AND try to "copy" and "paste" the Middle East..saga! Just give it up, brother!
3.2)We must work to maintain that "holy" legacy rather than declaring death on EVERYONE BECAUSE "Asta Getu, et al" said something wrong! It's shame!
God be with you!
11/04/12 @ 13:12
Comment from: ali [Visitor]
what i heard woyane try to make another akeldama documentary about our committees,try to get more support from Christians make them fear about current muslim peaceful protest and make conflict two peaceful religions,using by woyane propaganda factory which is etv ..
11/04/12 @ 13:20
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
There are tangible evidence of a group of brainwashed Ethiopian Muslims are promoting an international jihadest ideology in Ethiopia, many innocent Muslims and Christians been slaughtered and terrorized, the Ethiopian government should abstain its appeasement policy should deal with them with firm hands.
11/04/12 @ 13:24
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor] 
Hailu
It looks like this website is hijacked by Woyane thugs. All the comments against Amnesty come from these people. They are virtual prisoners of Woyane demagogy. I think Amnesty can't free them. Because they willingly put themselves. Shame on you. You don't even think of great consequences of actions of the Woyane against 50 million Ethiopian Muslims. The country might collapse unless Woyane's madness is properly checked.
It looks like this website is hijacked by Woyane thugs. All the comments against Amnesty come from these people. They are virtual prisoners of Woyane demagogy. I think Amnesty can't free them. Because they willingly put themselves. Shame on you. You don't even think of great consequences of actions of the Woyane against 50 million Ethiopian Muslims. The country might collapse unless Woyane's madness is properly checked.
11/04/12 @ 14:00
Comment from: abrzk [Visitor]
thank you doing a such great job thank you ...... Off cource weyane use always use excessive force against peaceful demonstration look at their history from the start to now (frome the jungle to now they jungel civilized government ) lets back to their history helping shabya to homicide jebeha ,fooling ormo (olf)army to station one of the country meletery base tellin them this ur station as soon as the all inter surrend and kill all of them unforgateble gonocide three what happen Ogaden ppl , what happen in harer , arsi , welega, moyale, sothern Ethiopia sedama and gedeo ppl 95th election I can bring thoused more but this time weyane get trouble because there is no single tribe in the religion he try to use hadere ppl this plan but I don't think it work out the ahabash speritual leader is hadere tribe I think that was the big plane to divided Islam by tribe ormo doesn't like ahabash because ahibash founded by hadere bla bla I think he tried but didn't work out after 21 years ppl waked up ur dirty tribal rule not acceptable enough is enough we are Muslim and we are Ethiopian period
11/04/12 @ 14:04
Comment from: Josephine [Visitor]
I have suspected for long Amnesty and Human Right Watch to be a neo-colonialist groupings financed by Saudi Arabia and the rest of the evil Arabs. Amnesty accused not long ago the Nigerian army for standing up against the most savage killers called Bokko Haram. The same two neo-colonialist agents were accusing only Serbia in the middel of a civil war not long ago. All Ethiopians should avoid any contact with these fascist groups. They only want civil wars, ethnic or religion, to engulf the whole third world countries.
Amnesty and Human Right Watch pretends as left wing progressives who are for the rights of third world countries but in reality they are the once who are feuling hatrades by supporting this against that with out any proof. Forexample, the terrorist organization ONLF sends e-mails to HRW spies that Ethiopian army is raping and killing Somalis in the Ogaden and this organization began accusing Ethiopia citing the same thing with out any proof. This is in line with the wishes of the Saudis and Egypt.
Now we know what the real agenda of of Amnesty and HRW is. They are pure crooks.
Amnesty and Human Right Watch pretends as left wing progressives who are for the rights of third world countries but in reality they are the once who are feuling hatrades by supporting this against that with out any proof. Forexample, the terrorist organization ONLF sends e-mails to HRW spies that Ethiopian army is raping and killing Somalis in the Ogaden and this organization began accusing Ethiopia citing the same thing with out any proof. This is in line with the wishes of the Saudis and Egypt.
Now we know what the real agenda of of Amnesty and HRW is. They are pure crooks.
11/04/12 @ 14:22
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Adgi ,keep on shiting on yourself .You Thuggy guys were Amnesty ,HRW and many other NGOs supporters by the past 30 years ,while they were condemning the then Derg Junta Regime .It's now because todays they are condemning your own crimes that you are insulting them .SHABYAN ASS HOLE TCHINKILATEBIS LEKAMMI WUSHA BANDA !!!!!!
11/04/12 @ 14:33
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
የ አብዬን ለ እምዬ ይላሉ አበው ሲተርቱ !!!
Amnesty International በተናገረ ይህ ሁሉ ስድብና ጥላቻ ለምን እንደሆነ ማወቅ አያዳግትም::
የ ወያኔ ቅጥረኞች ሃቁ ሲታውቅ ይናደዳሉ::
ጸረ ኢትዮጵያ የሆነው የ ኢ ህ አ ዴ ግ መንግስት የ ከፋፍለህ ግዛ እርምጃው በ ሃይማኖት በዘር በ ድንበር
አመካኝቶ አገራችንን ብሎም ህዝባችንን ለማጣላት ለማቆራረጥ ይጥራል::
ይህ ደግሞ መገለጡ አይቀርምና በ አለም ሲታወቅ የ አጋላጩን ድርጅት ማውገዝ የ ቲ ፒ ኤል ኤፍ ፕሮፓጋንዳ አላማ ነው ::
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የ አምባ ገነኑ የወያኔዎች ድርጅት ቀኑ እያለቀ መምጣቱን በ ድርጊቱ ማወቅ ይቻላል!!
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Amnesty International በተናገረ ይህ ሁሉ ስድብና ጥላቻ ለምን እንደሆነ ማወቅ አያዳግትም::
የ ወያኔ ቅጥረኞች ሃቁ ሲታውቅ ይናደዳሉ::
ጸረ ኢትዮጵያ የሆነው የ ኢ ህ አ ዴ ግ መንግስት የ ከፋፍለህ ግዛ እርምጃው በ ሃይማኖት በዘር በ ድንበር
አመካኝቶ አገራችንን ብሎም ህዝባችንን ለማጣላት ለማቆራረጥ ይጥራል::
ይህ ደግሞ መገለጡ አይቀርምና በ አለም ሲታወቅ የ አጋላጩን ድርጅት ማውገዝ የ ቲ ፒ ኤል ኤፍ ፕሮፓጋንዳ አላማ ነው ::
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የ አምባ ገነኑ የወያኔዎች ድርጅት ቀኑ እያለቀ መምጣቱን በ ድርጊቱ ማወቅ ይቻላል!!
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11/04/12 @ 15:20
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
Frankly you all suck. I say this because all rationality seems to have left all you good fellows.
Amnesty International is an organization, well recognized world wide, that does more than any of you combined here. Stating as you all do here, siding with whoever tickles your fancy for speaking your truth and hating on those who speak another mans truth is simply.. fakdup, pardon the French. Today BBC is your friend tomorrow... well, this is the empty mentality that seems to dominate the blind on this forum.
The point is to focus on the content. That is where the facts are, or not depending on which side you are on. Still, the point must be made that it is the governments responsibility to create harmony with the governed. And I believe that is what the article is about. I mean one can not label the whole Muslim population of Ethiopia "terrorists".
The current Ethiopian leaders are driving us in to an uncontrollable situation. An up rising of any kind at present is not conducive to the Ethiopia of today. We are at a dangerous time in our history.. ever, thanks to Meles's poison. We are divided in every way and now religion? Really? Is that where we want to go as if we do not have enough on our plate? I say let cooler heads prevail, let reason take over. Calm down and chew this over along with many many problems Ethiopia is facing today.
The current Ethiopian government must negotiate with its people. They must talk to the ETHIOPIAN Muslim community and solve the issue. It is better for all of us, it is better for Ethiopia. You all must understand this is an Ethiopian problem and not an Islamic problem. The minute it becomes anything other than an Ethiopian problem, we have lost the chance to fix it. What I am saying is we must not be behind those who want to throw the chance for peace out by calling all Muslims terrorists. That is what Eprdf is doing. After all we will be on the loosing end since ato Meles has created issues all around us.
Let cooler heads prevail, let peace take the front, that is the only way this will end well for our country.
Amnesty International is an organization, well recognized world wide, that does more than any of you combined here. Stating as you all do here, siding with whoever tickles your fancy for speaking your truth and hating on those who speak another mans truth is simply.. fakdup, pardon the French. Today BBC is your friend tomorrow... well, this is the empty mentality that seems to dominate the blind on this forum.
The point is to focus on the content. That is where the facts are, or not depending on which side you are on. Still, the point must be made that it is the governments responsibility to create harmony with the governed. And I believe that is what the article is about. I mean one can not label the whole Muslim population of Ethiopia "terrorists".
The current Ethiopian leaders are driving us in to an uncontrollable situation. An up rising of any kind at present is not conducive to the Ethiopia of today. We are at a dangerous time in our history.. ever, thanks to Meles's poison. We are divided in every way and now religion? Really? Is that where we want to go as if we do not have enough on our plate? I say let cooler heads prevail, let reason take over. Calm down and chew this over along with many many problems Ethiopia is facing today.
The current Ethiopian government must negotiate with its people. They must talk to the ETHIOPIAN Muslim community and solve the issue. It is better for all of us, it is better for Ethiopia. You all must understand this is an Ethiopian problem and not an Islamic problem. The minute it becomes anything other than an Ethiopian problem, we have lost the chance to fix it. What I am saying is we must not be behind those who want to throw the chance for peace out by calling all Muslims terrorists. That is what Eprdf is doing. After all we will be on the loosing end since ato Meles has created issues all around us.
Let cooler heads prevail, let peace take the front, that is the only way this will end well for our country.
11/04/12 @ 15:48
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
You know what?
Retarded Ethiopian Muslim RADICALS better watch out, clowns! We are not allowing any form of radicalism & nasty behavior from you morons. Thanks to Weyane, you zombie radicals are infiltration our beautiful city. The mighty, way ahead of their time, Amhara rulers kept zimbies like you in your respectful corners. EXTREMELY TOUGH stand is required with such folks, for they demand miles and miles when they are allowed 1 meter.
What does peaceful demonstration mean in your retarded vocabulary? Ethiopian Muslims, especially the Spasticated trouble makers can only read & write to recite the Quran and nothing much. semi-illiterate Idiots! Radical Ethiopian Muslims have become increasingly disrespectful, nasty, vulgar, low lives as we witness from posts on this very site & that is most definitely NOT result of peaceful RELIGION, preaching, practice or demonstration? The million Dollar question is, why in the hell is GOE tolerating such dangerous behavior & get tough on harmless journalists? Just get rid of 'em all from those awful gatherings, they have been disrupting the Capital for far too long!!. Riffraff's.
Just settle them back in their respective regions? Tiny Silte Zone, Ogaden, Afar deserts! They just hide behind Oromia. Enough is enough! Well done to GOE, you are doing great job putting them in their rightful places but MUCH MORE needs to be done & as a matter of urgency. Radicals know of NO civil behavioral or respect so they don't deserve it. They are the most intolerant, religious zealous freaks who call every none Muslim infidel, Kuffar or whatever the heck else. Morons. You want strict Islam, Sharia Law, go live in the Middle East with your respective pigs!!
Minabatachew Yinchachalu Ayit Hula! We may oppose GOE but we will support them 100% when it comes to dealing with dangerous filthy radicals.
* Amnesty International & Co Go to hell. You are never there for purposes that you are allegedly set up for. Tools.
Retarded Ethiopian Muslim RADICALS better watch out, clowns! We are not allowing any form of radicalism & nasty behavior from you morons. Thanks to Weyane, you zombie radicals are infiltration our beautiful city. The mighty, way ahead of their time, Amhara rulers kept zimbies like you in your respectful corners. EXTREMELY TOUGH stand is required with such folks, for they demand miles and miles when they are allowed 1 meter.
What does peaceful demonstration mean in your retarded vocabulary? Ethiopian Muslims, especially the Spasticated trouble makers can only read & write to recite the Quran and nothing much. semi-illiterate Idiots! Radical Ethiopian Muslims have become increasingly disrespectful, nasty, vulgar, low lives as we witness from posts on this very site & that is most definitely NOT result of peaceful RELIGION, preaching, practice or demonstration? The million Dollar question is, why in the hell is GOE tolerating such dangerous behavior & get tough on harmless journalists? Just get rid of 'em all from those awful gatherings, they have been disrupting the Capital for far too long!!. Riffraff's.
Just settle them back in their respective regions? Tiny Silte Zone, Ogaden, Afar deserts! They just hide behind Oromia. Enough is enough! Well done to GOE, you are doing great job putting them in their rightful places but MUCH MORE needs to be done & as a matter of urgency. Radicals know of NO civil behavioral or respect so they don't deserve it. They are the most intolerant, religious zealous freaks who call every none Muslim infidel, Kuffar or whatever the heck else. Morons. You want strict Islam, Sharia Law, go live in the Middle East with your respective pigs!!
Minabatachew Yinchachalu Ayit Hula! We may oppose GOE but we will support them 100% when it comes to dealing with dangerous filthy radicals.
* Amnesty International & Co Go to hell. You are never there for purposes that you are allegedly set up for. Tools.
11/04/12 @ 16:00
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Unrelated news:
“Egyptian Coptic Church pick new Pope
The Egyptian Coptic Church on Sunday chose a new leader by a blindfolded altar boy picking from a cup the name of a former pharmacist turned priest to become Pope Tawadros II.
Bishop Tawadros, 60, soon to be Pope Tawadros II greets well-wishers after being named the 118th Coptic Pope in the Wadi Natrun Monastery complex near Cairo Photo: AP
By Magdy Samaan in Cairo
8:37PM GMT 04 Nov 2012
Bishop Tawadros will be the 118th Patriarch of the worldwide Coptic Orthodox movement, but the first to be formally appointed by a Muslim Brotherhood president.
That process is a formality and the president, Mohammed Morsi, who was elected in June following the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak last year, has already sent a letter of congratulations.
But Mr Morsi's role has highlighted the fears of many Egyptian Christians that their freedoms will be squeezed under a new Islamist-dominated government.
In accordance with church by-laws, the selection process to replace Pope Shenouda III, who led the church for 40 years before his death in March at the age of 88, took place in three stages.
A papal nominations committee of 18 senior Copts, half lay and half bishops, produced a shortlist of five from 17 original candidates.
04 Nov 2012
Last Monday, those candidates were reduced to three in an election by 2,400 electors, and those three were then submitted to yesterday's ceremony when their names were written on bound pieces of paper and picked from a chalice.
Copts believe the "Altar Lottery" allows God to choose their shepherd.
"Today is a very historic day in the life of the Coptic Orthodox church," said Bishop Surial of Melbourne who travelled from Australia to attend the ceremony.
"With the altar lottery, we thank divine providence for providing to us a wonderful and amazing new Patriarch."
Pope Shenouda spent years in internal exile under former President Anwar Sadat but later became close to President Hosni Mubarak, ending his patriarchate in controversial circumstances.
He was widely felt to have lost support from parts of his flock, particularly the young, over his refusal to abandon the old regime in the face of the protests that overthrew it.
Many young Christian activists led those protests, and some Copts said they wanted the new Pope to stay out of politics.
Kamal Zakher Moussa, coordinator of the activist group Secular Coptic Current, said: "Now we have an Islamic regime mixing religion and the state, they will try to pull the Pope into politics. I hope he doesn't respond, and leaves it to secular Copts to get involved."
The new Pope's inauguration will take place on November 18. Mr Morsi will be invited, but has given an ambiguous response, the church authorities say, indicating that he will either attend or visit Bishop Tawadros to offer congratulations in person.”
“Egyptian Coptic Church pick new Pope
The Egyptian Coptic Church on Sunday chose a new leader by a blindfolded altar boy picking from a cup the name of a former pharmacist turned priest to become Pope Tawadros II.
Bishop Tawadros, 60, soon to be Pope Tawadros II greets well-wishers after being named the 118th Coptic Pope in the Wadi Natrun Monastery complex near Cairo Photo: AP
By Magdy Samaan in Cairo
8:37PM GMT 04 Nov 2012
Bishop Tawadros will be the 118th Patriarch of the worldwide Coptic Orthodox movement, but the first to be formally appointed by a Muslim Brotherhood president.
That process is a formality and the president, Mohammed Morsi, who was elected in June following the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak last year, has already sent a letter of congratulations.
But Mr Morsi's role has highlighted the fears of many Egyptian Christians that their freedoms will be squeezed under a new Islamist-dominated government.
In accordance with church by-laws, the selection process to replace Pope Shenouda III, who led the church for 40 years before his death in March at the age of 88, took place in three stages.
A papal nominations committee of 18 senior Copts, half lay and half bishops, produced a shortlist of five from 17 original candidates.
04 Nov 2012
Last Monday, those candidates were reduced to three in an election by 2,400 electors, and those three were then submitted to yesterday's ceremony when their names were written on bound pieces of paper and picked from a chalice.
Copts believe the "Altar Lottery" allows God to choose their shepherd.
"Today is a very historic day in the life of the Coptic Orthodox church," said Bishop Surial of Melbourne who travelled from Australia to attend the ceremony.
"With the altar lottery, we thank divine providence for providing to us a wonderful and amazing new Patriarch."
Pope Shenouda spent years in internal exile under former President Anwar Sadat but later became close to President Hosni Mubarak, ending his patriarchate in controversial circumstances.
He was widely felt to have lost support from parts of his flock, particularly the young, over his refusal to abandon the old regime in the face of the protests that overthrew it.
Many young Christian activists led those protests, and some Copts said they wanted the new Pope to stay out of politics.
Kamal Zakher Moussa, coordinator of the activist group Secular Coptic Current, said: "Now we have an Islamic regime mixing religion and the state, they will try to pull the Pope into politics. I hope he doesn't respond, and leaves it to secular Copts to get involved."
The new Pope's inauguration will take place on November 18. Mr Morsi will be invited, but has given an ambiguous response, the church authorities say, indicating that he will either attend or visit Bishop Tawadros to offer congratulations in person.”
11/04/12 @ 16:13
Comment from: Ras Thomas and Association of Ethiopian Patriots [Visitor]
OK. now, what we see at Nazereth is
clear confession:
Nazereth is not only talking and advocating for support not only for
anti-Habasha organization such as OLF
but also. Nazereth is support for the
Islamist terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaida.
So, how many Ethiopian are accepting
to see rule of Islamic sharia in Ethiopia. ooowoooo.
This is horrible moment. We as a Association Ethiopian Patriots in diasapora are saying to nezereth come to sanity and help your home
land Ethiopia. or you will regret too late !!!!!
11/04/12 @ 17:20
Comment from: Nostra Daimus [Visitor]
Amnesty Intl. Go investigate the Devils in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia that are making their innocent citizens life unberable.
I am just beginning to think that Amnesty and Human Rights Comm might have alterior motives and might be a tool for major parties intersted in robbing the natural resources such as OIL from defenseless and unsuspecting third world countries.
Lets be on Guard, trust nobody. Ethiopia is the last Nation that the Forces That Be are trying to dismember Ende Kircha Siga
Egziabhier Yitebken
Amen
I am just beginning to think that Amnesty and Human Rights Comm might have alterior motives and might be a tool for major parties intersted in robbing the natural resources such as OIL from defenseless and unsuspecting third world countries.
Lets be on Guard, trust nobody. Ethiopia is the last Nation that the Forces That Be are trying to dismember Ende Kircha Siga
Egziabhier Yitebken
Amen
11/04/12 @ 18:53
Comment from: Meles Zenawi [Visitor]
Thank you Amnesty International. You guys rolled out all the facts. The agonies of Ethiopian Muslims are unending since the time of the Christian dictator atses and kings. Our brother and sister Ethiopian Muslims are and have been tolerant in living peacefully with their Christian fellow Ethiopians despite the all encompassing injustices that have been happening on them. The current nasty condition the Ethiopian Muslims are going through is so overt repression. The woyanne junta has stepped on the throats of our peaceful fellow Ethiopian Muslims and want them to stop breathing in that country. The woyanne don't care whether Ethiopia dragged into ethnic and/or religious conflicts. The Woyannes are wary only to their powers. They work day and night to keep their absolute dictatorship on Ethiopian people at any cost. The woyannes need to be instructed to stop abusing, beating up, incarcerating and killing Ethiopian Muslims immediately. Otherwise, they have to know that this is the end of their end. You woyannes - we will fight you with whatever means until all the people of Ethiopia truly enjoy freedom, justice and democracy. To people Ethiopia - Lets unite our forces and speed up the demise of this Woyanne government!
11/04/12 @ 18:56
Comment from: Nostra Daimus [Visitor]
Gadafi ketafi
If your Religion is Peaceful as you claim, come forward and just say
Killing in the name of Allah is wrong!
Then we will know that you are a Good Muslim person.
Amen
If your Religion is Peaceful as you claim, come forward and just say
Killing in the name of Allah is wrong!
Then we will know that you are a Good Muslim person.
Amen
11/04/12 @ 19:02
Comment from: john john [Visitor]
Those protester are not ordinary Muslim citizen they are Islamist fanatic sleeping cell lured with petrol dollar to spread their violent believe under freedom and religious.
11/04/12 @ 19:15
Comment from: Magdala [Visitor]
We should declare global war on Islam. Islam is not a religion. Islam is a product of political movements. What we hear from moslems is very negative to human development and progress. I wonder why the West is quite.
The West is our strategic ally in the fight against Islam. The moslem countries are weak. There is ony nuclear power - Pakistan, which can be colonized or made out of use by one force. Iran should be bombed soon, because it is provoking us to war.
USA and The West including Russia, Ukrains and the Balkan will need to draw a plan of erradicating Islam. The moslems are simply parasites. See how they live in the west at the cost the local population. europe should deport all moslems to their countries because it has becaome a national risk.
Europe seems to seriously on human rights globally. Human rights to those who understand what human rights is. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, sudan, Egypt, Syria are savages that need to be deleted as communities. In general, Islam is a parasite of human civilization. Take for example, Somali moslems or Sudanese moslems. What they do is destroy the areas they go to. In addis, Somalis live at the cost of the population. So do sudanese live the african negroid population in Sudan and want to take ethiopian lands, which has been under Ethiopia. Such people should be controlled told to stop and be given special training. In general Islam is primitive. There is no moslem country which is developed as much the non-moslem countries: India, China, USA, Rusia, europe are very developed and they are non-moslem.
The question is why does the world tolerate such primitive culture. Why can not USA, Russia or Europe control these countries? Ethiopi again may intiate a global war against Ilam as a religion. This time we will crahs the Turks, Arabs, the Iranians until they feel what it means to live civil.
Israel has the right to exist and Ethiopia will stand with Israel. The misundertanding between Israel and Germany should have by now been cleared. The Holocaust is a crime committed by Nazi Germany. Germany should stand with Israel and Ethiopia in the fight gains Islam, because the german population is suffering under a large proportion of migrant moslems.
As in Ethiopia, the moslems have always counter to Ethiopia. There is no moslem patriot in our history. No moslem fighter was present at the Battle of Adwa. what the moslem are doing now is, stealing ethiopian christian culture. This should be stopped. We should control the moslem population in Ethiopia. We can not continue like this. Equality of religion has become being enemy to each other, where the christians have become victims. This might have been created purposely by the eritreans in TPLF-EPRDF and by Shaebya agents. But unfortunately we have to control Islam from destroying our norms.
Do not discuss with Taliban or Al Kaida terrorists who are participating in this forum.
Nazreth is obliged by law not to allow provocative statement against christians. Insulting Ethiopian copts should not be allowed.
We warn Nazreth Website not indulge in religious counterproductive insults.
The West is our strategic ally in the fight against Islam. The moslem countries are weak. There is ony nuclear power - Pakistan, which can be colonized or made out of use by one force. Iran should be bombed soon, because it is provoking us to war.
USA and The West including Russia, Ukrains and the Balkan will need to draw a plan of erradicating Islam. The moslems are simply parasites. See how they live in the west at the cost the local population. europe should deport all moslems to their countries because it has becaome a national risk.
Europe seems to seriously on human rights globally. Human rights to those who understand what human rights is. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, sudan, Egypt, Syria are savages that need to be deleted as communities. In general, Islam is a parasite of human civilization. Take for example, Somali moslems or Sudanese moslems. What they do is destroy the areas they go to. In addis, Somalis live at the cost of the population. So do sudanese live the african negroid population in Sudan and want to take ethiopian lands, which has been under Ethiopia. Such people should be controlled told to stop and be given special training. In general Islam is primitive. There is no moslem country which is developed as much the non-moslem countries: India, China, USA, Rusia, europe are very developed and they are non-moslem.
The question is why does the world tolerate such primitive culture. Why can not USA, Russia or Europe control these countries? Ethiopi again may intiate a global war against Ilam as a religion. This time we will crahs the Turks, Arabs, the Iranians until they feel what it means to live civil.
Israel has the right to exist and Ethiopia will stand with Israel. The misundertanding between Israel and Germany should have by now been cleared. The Holocaust is a crime committed by Nazi Germany. Germany should stand with Israel and Ethiopia in the fight gains Islam, because the german population is suffering under a large proportion of migrant moslems.
As in Ethiopia, the moslems have always counter to Ethiopia. There is no moslem patriot in our history. No moslem fighter was present at the Battle of Adwa. what the moslem are doing now is, stealing ethiopian christian culture. This should be stopped. We should control the moslem population in Ethiopia. We can not continue like this. Equality of religion has become being enemy to each other, where the christians have become victims. This might have been created purposely by the eritreans in TPLF-EPRDF and by Shaebya agents. But unfortunately we have to control Islam from destroying our norms.
Do not discuss with Taliban or Al Kaida terrorists who are participating in this forum.
Nazreth is obliged by law not to allow provocative statement against christians. Insulting Ethiopian copts should not be allowed.
We warn Nazreth Website not indulge in religious counterproductive insults.
11/04/12 @ 19:53
Comment from: Selam Le Ethiopia [Visitor]
May The Lord All forgive you! Most of you have lost your mind! The result of TPLFISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11/04/12 @ 20:16
Comment from: Ethiopia is ruled by Eritrean Mercenaries and not by Tigrean Ethiopians [Visitor]
The eritrean mercenaries like Bereket Simon, Addisu Legesse, Berhane G/Kirstos, Abay Tsehaye are pitting moslems against christians. This is to weaken Ethiopia from inside. Arrest all eritrean working as ministers in Ethiopia. Ethiopian moslems should not allow themselves to be provoked by Woyane agents. Ethiopian moslems should attend only their prayers in the mosques and even stop going to mosques until a new governeent of Ethiopians is formed.
Ethiopian christian should ethiopian moslems by showing more sympathy and understanding. We should be aware of the rotten eritrean Woyane nabdas plot to our country. We will deport all eritreans and tigreans who are anti-Ethiopia to to other countries like Eritrea or Sudan or Kenya or Somalia or Uganda as eritrean refugees.
Ethiopian christian should ethiopian moslems by showing more sympathy and understanding. We should be aware of the rotten eritrean Woyane nabdas plot to our country. We will deport all eritreans and tigreans who are anti-Ethiopia to to other countries like Eritrea or Sudan or Kenya or Somalia or Uganda as eritrean refugees.
11/04/12 @ 20:26
Comment from: Deport all eritreans and anti-Ethiopia Tigreans from Ethiopia as eritrean refugees [Visitor]
Eritrean control the ethiopian government. But is more cruel, it is half-casts who are in power. Ethiopians are totally excluded from participating in decision making policies like land issues, privitzation of property. allocation of budget, investment p[olicies, education policies etc.
Ethiopia is being weakened by eritrean and ther stooge tigreans or mostly half casts.
The eritreans controling the government are provoking the moslem population of Ethiopia to violence. The aim is create a condition of civil war based on religion. We should deport all eritrean and anti-Ethiopia Tigreans to other country because they are destabilizing our country by provoking civil wars. We should act now before it is too late.
Ethiopia is being weakened by eritrean and ther stooge tigreans or mostly half casts.
The eritreans controling the government are provoking the moslem population of Ethiopia to violence. The aim is create a condition of civil war based on religion. We should deport all eritrean and anti-Ethiopia Tigreans to other country because they are destabilizing our country by provoking civil wars. We should act now before it is too late.
11/04/12 @ 20:36
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Nobel
By now you have seen how much christian fanatisism is there. We asked for our rights they called us terrorists. This is without the evidence. As to Magdala you have clearly aligned Ethiopia with christian nations and that is with total disregard to any Muslim soul to that country. Indeed, if this is what christianity that you preach about then I am more than happy to live under Islam. As to christianity going under the umbrella of God go ahead and try it. Have not christianity tried this before? Crusade I and II. Muslims have a super God called Allah and He has a plan more than anyone on this planet. If Nuclear Power is you plan then you will notice Japan did not vanish. In fact, there will be black history on the part of West. Indeed, christianity is violent and the good examples are Ethiopian copts. Simply, the so called Abayen yedefere Meles Zenawi does not have 80 billion dollars to finance the dam. Who is financing it? We know who. America. Why, the plan is to weaken Egypt. This will make Ethiopia the future middle east. As oil runs out, the next fight will be for hydro power. and Ethiopia is the center of contention. Like Israel Ethiopia will be used to squeeze Egypt. But this may bring a lot of risks. What will be the role of Muslim Ethiopians in that country. As they get pushed will they submit to the dominance of copts?
Back to Nobel:
I am really buffled as to why you wrote to me why I should be bitter. If you don't know why government has imported a new religion called Ah Bash without the will of Ethiopian Muslims. They are imposing it by force in contradiction to the Law of land. This alone is red line we have not seen any where in the world. Ethiopian muslims have become the guinea pig.
By now you have seen how much christian fanatisism is there. We asked for our rights they called us terrorists. This is without the evidence. As to Magdala you have clearly aligned Ethiopia with christian nations and that is with total disregard to any Muslim soul to that country. Indeed, if this is what christianity that you preach about then I am more than happy to live under Islam. As to christianity going under the umbrella of God go ahead and try it. Have not christianity tried this before? Crusade I and II. Muslims have a super God called Allah and He has a plan more than anyone on this planet. If Nuclear Power is you plan then you will notice Japan did not vanish. In fact, there will be black history on the part of West. Indeed, christianity is violent and the good examples are Ethiopian copts. Simply, the so called Abayen yedefere Meles Zenawi does not have 80 billion dollars to finance the dam. Who is financing it? We know who. America. Why, the plan is to weaken Egypt. This will make Ethiopia the future middle east. As oil runs out, the next fight will be for hydro power. and Ethiopia is the center of contention. Like Israel Ethiopia will be used to squeeze Egypt. But this may bring a lot of risks. What will be the role of Muslim Ethiopians in that country. As they get pushed will they submit to the dominance of copts?
Back to Nobel:
I am really buffled as to why you wrote to me why I should be bitter. If you don't know why government has imported a new religion called Ah Bash without the will of Ethiopian Muslims. They are imposing it by force in contradiction to the Law of land. This alone is red line we have not seen any where in the world. Ethiopian muslims have become the guinea pig.
11/04/12 @ 20:51
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
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11/04/12 @ 21:13
Comment from: Muammar al-Gaddafi [Visitor]
Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance, the only thing it cannot be is moderately important.
11/04/12 @ 21:46
Comment from: tofu [Visitor]
wey amnesty!! ye islam popo letarguwat ethiopian emyen!! first of all there no such islam yemibal in the history of ethiopia. if they don't like engdenetachwen they can go to saudi, egypt, pakistan or iran. please shut ur mouth and submit ur self to eprdf authority. if not move out now....yemen meself menamen. komatan komata neh beleh kalnegrekew abro yefeteftal ale yagre sew....
11/04/12 @ 22:49
Comment from: Doyo [Visitor]
How are you Amnesty, where were you when millions of muslims children in Iraq and else where in the world were bombed by you.
11/04/12 @ 23:03
Comment from: chefo [Visitor]
To ammestyinternatinal
If really you stand human rights.
Why you are not realise about ethiopian maid in arab countries everyday murderd and torcherd by their arab employres.
if really you are standing for poor people and mass why you are not relese about cristians evryday murderd and torched in egypt saudiarabia, iran ,pakistan and other countries
if really you are devoting for voiceless why you are not realise about the ertrians and other black africans refuges in egypt (synai) torching and take their organs and killing by the coporation of egyptian nomads and cairo docters.
but your goal is other to sabiliging ethiopia to harm ethiopia and to stop the development of ethiopia. Now we know you very well dont cheat us please!!!!!
If really you stand human rights.
Why you are not realise about ethiopian maid in arab countries everyday murderd and torcherd by their arab employres.
if really you are standing for poor people and mass why you are not relese about cristians evryday murderd and torched in egypt saudiarabia, iran ,pakistan and other countries
if really you are devoting for voiceless why you are not realise about the ertrians and other black africans refuges in egypt (synai) torching and take their organs and killing by the coporation of egyptian nomads and cairo docters.
but your goal is other to sabiliging ethiopia to harm ethiopia and to stop the development of ethiopia. Now we know you very well dont cheat us please!!!!!
11/04/12 @ 23:33
Comment from: Aaron [Visitor]
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL......
Always rubbish rubbish rubbish....
They care nothing their are thirsty of blood.
Always rubbish rubbish rubbish....
They care nothing their are thirsty of blood.
11/05/12 @ 01:11
Comment from: Tobisraw Gidey [Visitor]
Thanks AMNESTY for telling the truth! It seems that TPLF era is coming to end very soon mainly because of their interference with Islam/Muslim affairs. Do not forget that 80% of Oromos are Muslims. AMNESTY report should be more in depth and explain the fatal casualties happened around Ethiopia. Not only Assasa, Addis and Gerba... What about in other parts of the country? Let us join hands to throw this "Wey Lamo" government who still governed by pro Meles & Azeb. It seems Meles is ruling the country from the grave not the puppet HD. Bravo AMNESTY.
11/05/12 @ 02:05
Comment from: Ogaden Liberation [Visitor]
@Magdala [Visitor]
Dear Magdala,
You are below a grass grazing cattle. These animals at leas have common sense. You cannot be explained by any dictionary world. You are completely useless creature ever GOD has created!
Death to you coming soon!
Thanks AMNESTY!!!!
Dear Magdala,
You are below a grass grazing cattle. These animals at leas have common sense. You cannot be explained by any dictionary world. You are completely useless creature ever GOD has created!
Death to you coming soon!
Thanks AMNESTY!!!!
11/05/12 @ 02:17
Comment from: Mahlet [Visitor]
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11/05/12 @ 02:24
Comment from: Al - Shabab [Visitor]
@Mesfin B
Please keep on writing!!!
I like ideas expressed in our letters.
All Ethiopians try to use your TIME for something good than thinking to kill each other.
Bravo AMNESTY for exposing the very weaknesses of TPLF/EPRDF for not allowing their citizens exercise the Ethiopian constitution rights! STOP government interference in religion!!!!
If the "Wey Lamo" government wants to topple, Muslims should continue their peaceful protest..
Of course GOD has plans....May be????
Please keep on writing!!!
I like ideas expressed in our letters.
All Ethiopians try to use your TIME for something good than thinking to kill each other.
Bravo AMNESTY for exposing the very weaknesses of TPLF/EPRDF for not allowing their citizens exercise the Ethiopian constitution rights! STOP government interference in religion!!!!
If the "Wey Lamo" government wants to topple, Muslims should continue their peaceful protest..
Of course GOD has plans....May be????
11/05/12 @ 02:30
Comment from: seattle [Visitor]
The true color of the copts start to show up. better yet They start to pee in their pants.
Amhara orthodox radicals and Tigre mafiosis together at last. still that does not make you the majority morons.
Amnesty International does not work only for Amharas. get it?. you can't praise them only when they talk about Amhara political prisoners but dis them when they talk about others. You can't have it both ways. 50% of the population should also have a say on how their country should run.
If you don't believe on that, you might as well declare your allegiance with the dictators currently holding power..
Democracy and rule of law is not only when someone from your tribe and religion is sent to Kaliti, If you believe in true democracy, then it should include everyone else who is fighting for their right in civil and peaceful manner.
11/05/12 @ 02:41
Comment from: Falconbase [Visitor]
Do you think the EPRDF people know the meaning of terrorism?
You cannot undermine the voices of the majority.
In response you will be denied a vote in upcoming elections.
Life will be miserable to TPLF like it was for Atse Yohannes by the Derbush (Sudans).
EPRDF is playing with fire and will feel it soon. For the time being they are receiving aid fro USA. How long will it continue?
Down with EPRDF/TPLF?
Long live Ethiopia!!
You cannot undermine the voices of the majority.
In response you will be denied a vote in upcoming elections.
Life will be miserable to TPLF like it was for Atse Yohannes by the Derbush (Sudans).
EPRDF is playing with fire and will feel it soon. For the time being they are receiving aid fro USA. How long will it continue?
Down with EPRDF/TPLF?
Long live Ethiopia!!
11/05/12 @ 02:42
Comment from: chefo [Visitor]
all the above comments is written with ethiopian enemies and fanatic moslims. We know you are supported the enemies who dont want to see peace and development in ethiopia. We want to leave together with our true moslim citizen peasefully and work and protect our land from outside invaders. fanatic moslims and the enemy of ethiopian unity like (Vistor)Grane amhed,seattle, ogaden leberation,Falconbase etc.
we ethiopians we will destroy you and we wipe you from the land of ethiopia.
The true God is with us!!!
Dont mess with US.
God bless Ethiopia!!!
we ethiopians we will destroy you and we wipe you from the land of ethiopia.
The true God is with us!!!
Dont mess with US.
God bless Ethiopia!!!
11/05/12 @ 03:06
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Funny Amharas say they fight for united, undivided Ethiopia when it suit them. But when the going get tough they are the first to recommend to put every muslims in their regions\kelil. why? Because they realized that muslims don't believe in kelil idiology created by Woyanes. right now They all united against woyane under one banner.
That my frends, scare the hell of not only the dictators at Arat Kilo, but the fake democrats who talk about democracy, one-man-one vote day and night on this site, Who preach about Ethiopian unity only to suite their hidden agenda to grab power behind the back of 50 percent of the population.
No more fake people. People already woke up. They know their true freinds and their enemies who want to grap the power in the name of the majority.
Neftes your days are over. you can't come back to power on the back of the majority.
11/05/12 @ 03:19
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
chefo [Visitor]
you think the whole country all belong to you the copts? you have not learned yet what sharing with the rest of the right full owners means.
Go away, get lost. you don't have a slightest idea what you talking about. retard coptic deacon.
you think the whole country all belong to you the copts? you have not learned yet what sharing with the rest of the right full owners means.
Go away, get lost. you don't have a slightest idea what you talking about. retard coptic deacon.
11/05/12 @ 03:39
Comment from: Jullie [Visitor]
Listen to Brigitt Gabriel. Libanon used to be a Christian majority country and how it was taken by muslims in only one generation. In the 60s muslims in Libanon were very small minority and see how they overtake a land by simply outbreeding. The same has happened in Kosovo too and see how they have become majority in a Christian historic city. The Arabs are doing everything to turn Ethiopia to a muslim majority country. They already have began lying about their numbers. Ethiopian government have to learn from Libanon and Kosovo and close all those mosques and expell all those muslim farmers who are imported by coordinated money gifts by Arab countries namely Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Save Ethiopia before it becomes a terrorist country like Libanon and Kosovo.
Take the advice of Brigitte Gabriel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7OtbNbKnw4
Take the advice of Brigitte Gabriel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7OtbNbKnw4
11/05/12 @ 04:38
Comment from: JesusKnows [Visitor]
These are Self appointed International criminals.
99.9% these kind criminals are English and Americans. Most of them are having residents in London, Washington DC or New York. These are money minded Infidels working for Arabs the same way BBC and CNN are doing. The Arabs are paying millions to influence their interest through these kind groups and organizations.
The English prime Minister is currently in Saudi and other gulf nations for business reason. He has in mind to sell them more than 100 fighter jets worth billions to cause troubles, kill lives and destroy properties.
Everyone knows that there is nowhere but in Saudi and those oil and Gas created small gulf desert nations are committing the worst and wide spread human atrocity on earth for so long. There is nowhere but in those nations even the word Democracy is not allowed to be mentioned let alone to exercise it. There is nowhere but in those desert nations there is a strict segregation between men and women and boys and girls at all levels all the Time. Women are not allowed even to walk alone in her own neighborhood let alone go to the town, shop, work, driving cars and so on. They have no right to divorce. They are guilty if they are raped. They are guilty if they lose their virginity. There are so many crimes against humanity going on in the Saudi and other Gulf nations.
Yet, the English prime Minister is happily doing business there as if he doesn't care about human right, democracy, rule of law and so many barbaric things are going on there against the citizens. The world also know these desert Arab nations are the birth place and the source of all crimes against the world in the name of Islam including terrorism that caused 9/11, 7/7 London and so on.
But, these greedy and faithless creatures are happily doing business with them including selling weapons coast billions. On the other hand their Embassies, so called NGO's and so on are in Africa including Ethiopia talking about democracy, Human right, rule of law, free press and so on. Do we still believe and trust them about their motive in our country and Africa in general witnessing what they are doing with the Saudi and gulf nations? Are we still full even listening them let alone accepting what they are saying about us to do the way they wanted in our country?
Don't trust the English. They are the way out by their choice from Europe as they are naturally not part of it but an island to Europe. They cannot handle to be part of it knowing the rest of Europe is becoming more united, genuine, Classless, Faire, Hard working, human and with other important modern human behaviors which they are not. Instead they are looking far away to wards those having the same behavior as they are and these are the Middle East desert nations with oil money.
Most of the so called Amnesty International members are English, English descendent USA citizens, some Jewish Americans and so on. They are self appointed groups working for the interest of those giving them money. Talking about Muslims in Ethiopia could be the agreement they have with Gulf and Saudi in exchange of money. We have seen how Saudi and those gulf nations playing with UNESCO for their interest about Young children school books in international levels. BBC, CNN and the rest are working for them saying or not saying based on what the Arabs are telling them. These is fact RT, Press TV, Fox and others are saying openly about it referring including BBC and CNN behavior with the situation in Bahrain and Syria.
F8ck this self appointed so called Amnesty international. If they do care about human right, why don't they start from Saudi and other Gulf nations including the treatment domestic workers that are including dying and all women? Why don't they talk about democracy, rule of law and freedom in those nations?
These are just criminals using wrong names to cover up their true identity which is including doing lobby jobs to those paying them money, in this case Saudi and other Gulf nations.
99.9% these kind criminals are English and Americans. Most of them are having residents in London, Washington DC or New York. These are money minded Infidels working for Arabs the same way BBC and CNN are doing. The Arabs are paying millions to influence their interest through these kind groups and organizations.
The English prime Minister is currently in Saudi and other gulf nations for business reason. He has in mind to sell them more than 100 fighter jets worth billions to cause troubles, kill lives and destroy properties.
Everyone knows that there is nowhere but in Saudi and those oil and Gas created small gulf desert nations are committing the worst and wide spread human atrocity on earth for so long. There is nowhere but in those nations even the word Democracy is not allowed to be mentioned let alone to exercise it. There is nowhere but in those desert nations there is a strict segregation between men and women and boys and girls at all levels all the Time. Women are not allowed even to walk alone in her own neighborhood let alone go to the town, shop, work, driving cars and so on. They have no right to divorce. They are guilty if they are raped. They are guilty if they lose their virginity. There are so many crimes against humanity going on in the Saudi and other Gulf nations.
Yet, the English prime Minister is happily doing business there as if he doesn't care about human right, democracy, rule of law and so many barbaric things are going on there against the citizens. The world also know these desert Arab nations are the birth place and the source of all crimes against the world in the name of Islam including terrorism that caused 9/11, 7/7 London and so on.
But, these greedy and faithless creatures are happily doing business with them including selling weapons coast billions. On the other hand their Embassies, so called NGO's and so on are in Africa including Ethiopia talking about democracy, Human right, rule of law, free press and so on. Do we still believe and trust them about their motive in our country and Africa in general witnessing what they are doing with the Saudi and gulf nations? Are we still full even listening them let alone accepting what they are saying about us to do the way they wanted in our country?
Don't trust the English. They are the way out by their choice from Europe as they are naturally not part of it but an island to Europe. They cannot handle to be part of it knowing the rest of Europe is becoming more united, genuine, Classless, Faire, Hard working, human and with other important modern human behaviors which they are not. Instead they are looking far away to wards those having the same behavior as they are and these are the Middle East desert nations with oil money.
Most of the so called Amnesty International members are English, English descendent USA citizens, some Jewish Americans and so on. They are self appointed groups working for the interest of those giving them money. Talking about Muslims in Ethiopia could be the agreement they have with Gulf and Saudi in exchange of money. We have seen how Saudi and those gulf nations playing with UNESCO for their interest about Young children school books in international levels. BBC, CNN and the rest are working for them saying or not saying based on what the Arabs are telling them. These is fact RT, Press TV, Fox and others are saying openly about it referring including BBC and CNN behavior with the situation in Bahrain and Syria.
F8ck this self appointed so called Amnesty international. If they do care about human right, why don't they start from Saudi and other Gulf nations including the treatment domestic workers that are including dying and all women? Why don't they talk about democracy, rule of law and freedom in those nations?
These are just criminals using wrong names to cover up their true identity which is including doing lobby jobs to those paying them money, in this case Saudi and other Gulf nations.
11/05/12 @ 04:40
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor]
Yes we must support Amnesty International and other HRTs organizations. But we must stand firm like our staunch Muslim Brothers fighting for their rights. What Woyane tries to forget is whenever they try to suppress this struggle they are like putting more flames to it, that would engulf them and decimate their rule. Ghadafi, Tunisia' Ben Ali and Mubarak, have all tried it and paid and are paying a heavy price. Meles drooped dead, but his regime ruled from the grave might join him soon. Those of you bragging on this website, be sure that Ethiopian Muslims will never go back. This their country, (even Malelit Woyane falsely claims it is now Ethiopia). Muslims are Ethiopian, they must be equal citizens, they must also have equal representations in all spheres of socio-economic and political spheres. They must not beg for it, but fight for it. It is essential to address their grievances as urgently as possible before it is too late.
11/05/12 @ 05:50
Comment from: Magdala [Visitor]
Amensty International is making Ethiopia as anti-Islam country, which is entirely wrong. Amensty again is again making more profile and fanning civil wars in Ethiopia by accusing the governement in Ethiopia. The government in Ethiopia has the constutional obligation to safeguard the society from religious fundamentalism that use Islam to overthrow the government with the intent to form an islamic state.
Ethiopian patriots should condemn Amensty International. Ethiopian Lawyers should take Amensty Internation to court for fanning regious wars in Ethiopia.
Ethiopian patriots should condemn Amensty International. Ethiopian Lawyers should take Amensty Internation to court for fanning regious wars in Ethiopia.
11/05/12 @ 06:02
Comment from: Ruddy [Visitor]
Magdala - Although I can expect less form blood thirsty Dedebits, yours is staggering. It amounts to incitement to genocide. I will post your email to the relevant bodies and groups working on human rights, just as sample of what regime thugs got in mind. Your message is also a testimony to why Ethiopian Muslims should persistently fight and make sure that no body ever treat them with disrespect. Because Ethiopia also belongs to them and this must be accepted by every body,whether you like it or not. You can do nothing. If the majority of the Ethiopian population becomes a Muslim or Waqiffa, be it. What is a big deal.People like, live under hallucination in a fairy cuckoo land.
11/05/12 @ 06:25
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor]
Mgadala- scum.I wish your mum gave you a real name; may be 'Bakekan'-Parrot. Read again what you have written above. It is allover ETV. What is new about this. You are living in 1994 Orwellian mind set.You a barren IQ, and You can't think for by yourself. Train your 'TESTA' and try to be a real man or shut up. Fed up reading your shit. You disgust me.
11/05/12 @ 06:39
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor]
Jesus knows- You ejaculated your little mind. Read about Amnesty's Report on Arab rulers before you scribble your ignorance.
Why all these funny people jostling over this website with their infantile stories?
Why all these funny people jostling over this website with their infantile stories?
11/05/12 @ 06:54
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TPLF Thugs bunch of puppets LIARS .Why don't you talk ,if you really haver the gut, about the The good days while your leba master with his shabyan bros licking Gulf Emirs and
arab despots asses .Inviting Iran to open islamic Institutions in the country .Lating Middle Esat and Pakis preachers infiltrating the society .Sharya instaured in Muslim so called regions .And today ,you are here and there barking on the Risk of Jehadists rising into the country .You have lit the fire that would burn you all....LEKAMMI WESLATA BANDAS !!!!!
11/05/12 @ 07:01
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]
Dear Novel,
YES the old pro Amhara rule block sunshine from shining on Muslim. YES TPLF is the one who took the curtains down so that the sun can shine on Muslim. But that doesn't mean the TPLF own the SUN.... That doesn't mean TPLF can take muslim's sunshine away any time the wish just because....
U see team Meles doesn't have the right or a power to give or to deny a Muslim their own human right because human right doesn't belong to government or any person it belong to God.. Just the sun belong to God.
Example just because u sponsor ur wife to came to USA...that doesn't give u the right to own HER, and telling her no to speak to any man or to stay at home or not to talk on phone etc etc... And Whenever she protest u remind her u brought her to America she should be thanking u instead of protesting etc etc u know the drill.
I know u are much better person in this forum but u missed the basic logic the white men in America fought to free black America too but that doesn't give them the right to own the same slave that they help to FREE...when u are free u are free even from the person who help u to get ur freedom.
I can go on and own but the point is the Muslim are free from their own SAVER too. If not what the point of being free only to be slaved to Meles. So my friend Muslim have unlimited right under Ethiopian constitution no more or less but equal with Christian and non Christian alike..
Dear how would u like it if Eritrean try to colonized u by saying they save u from mangistau ...I know u don't like it..
To all other u, u claim Ethiopia is a multi ethnic and multi religion in one hand and u guys claiming it is Christian island u cant have it both way. I notes most Meles support are also anti Muslim I thought they were fighting for human right but they are the Same BS.. What they don't know is Axum is 50% are Muslim so Islam is in ur blood. if u want to kill Muslim then u better know u are killing ur own brother and sister this Madness must be stopped.
All Muslim are asking is very basic right to vote and where to vote and they are rejecting imported religion that is imposed by government. So it is very simple demand don't make it big thing. Don't say if we give them a feet they ask for mile... That is what Mangustu said about u and Eritrea... U have to give unlimited freedom under the Ethiopian constitution.
One last example:- late say Muslim human right stolen from them by Amhara and discovered by Meles... Then Meles trying to save since I discovered ur human right I should own it and I will give u same human right when ever I feel like it... After all I am the one discover ur lost human right without me u would not have none of it.
Now late try again the same logic but this time replace human right by a $1000 birr. See how it make sense.
YES the old pro Amhara rule block sunshine from shining on Muslim. YES TPLF is the one who took the curtains down so that the sun can shine on Muslim. But that doesn't mean the TPLF own the SUN.... That doesn't mean TPLF can take muslim's sunshine away any time the wish just because....
U see team Meles doesn't have the right or a power to give or to deny a Muslim their own human right because human right doesn't belong to government or any person it belong to God.. Just the sun belong to God.
Example just because u sponsor ur wife to came to USA...that doesn't give u the right to own HER, and telling her no to speak to any man or to stay at home or not to talk on phone etc etc... And Whenever she protest u remind her u brought her to America she should be thanking u instead of protesting etc etc u know the drill.
I know u are much better person in this forum but u missed the basic logic the white men in America fought to free black America too but that doesn't give them the right to own the same slave that they help to FREE...when u are free u are free even from the person who help u to get ur freedom.
I can go on and own but the point is the Muslim are free from their own SAVER too. If not what the point of being free only to be slaved to Meles. So my friend Muslim have unlimited right under Ethiopian constitution no more or less but equal with Christian and non Christian alike..
Dear how would u like it if Eritrean try to colonized u by saying they save u from mangistau ...I know u don't like it..
To all other u, u claim Ethiopia is a multi ethnic and multi religion in one hand and u guys claiming it is Christian island u cant have it both way. I notes most Meles support are also anti Muslim I thought they were fighting for human right but they are the Same BS.. What they don't know is Axum is 50% are Muslim so Islam is in ur blood. if u want to kill Muslim then u better know u are killing ur own brother and sister this Madness must be stopped.
All Muslim are asking is very basic right to vote and where to vote and they are rejecting imported religion that is imposed by government. So it is very simple demand don't make it big thing. Don't say if we give them a feet they ask for mile... That is what Mangustu said about u and Eritrea... U have to give unlimited freedom under the Ethiopian constitution.
One last example:- late say Muslim human right stolen from them by Amhara and discovered by Meles... Then Meles trying to save since I discovered ur human right I should own it and I will give u same human right when ever I feel like it... After all I am the one discover ur lost human right without me u would not have none of it.
Now late try again the same logic but this time replace human right by a $1000 birr. See how it make sense.
11/05/12 @ 07:46
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Muammar al-Gaddafi (visitor),
Deceptions, tricks, shenanigans, denial, and distortions of facts are the common characteristics of all Muslims, moderate or radicals, literates or illiterates – all the same.
I have been telling my readers for a long time one cannot argue with Muslims whose minds are closed to honesty but wide open for dishonesty, and one of these dishonest and irrational Muslims is Muammar al-Gaddafi, who, to mislead honest non-Muslims, intentionally asseverates: “The word ‘Jihad’ has nowhere been used in the Quran to mean war in the sense of launching an offensive. It is rather to mean ‘struggle.’ the [sic] action most consistently called for in the Quran is the exercise of patience.”
His interpretation of “Jihad” is absolutely wrong: Jihad doesn’t mean a struggle within one self; it is rather a militaristic adventure to raid or conquer someone’s country, kill the men, capture the women, rape them, enslave them, and loot their properties. The belligerent Muhammad the prophet had made it clear that “Jihad (warfare) is Compulsory” (Muslim: C40B20N4676).
Let us examine what the Quran says about Jihad:
1. “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite” (Noble Qur'an:2:190).
What do we understand from this verse? We understand from the above verse the following facts:
• Jihad is a war that involves the full force of superior number of fighters with fetal weaponry.
• Jihad is very important in Islam and is one of its pillars.
• Islam is spread out, is preached widely, and established by Jihad.
• Allah’s word is made superior and is propagated by Jihad.
• If Jihad is abandoned, then Islam will be destroyed, Muslims will fall into an inferior position; their honor will be lost, their lands will be stolen, and their rule and authority will be vanished.
• Jihad is not a choice; it is every Muslim’s obligatory duty.
• Every Muslim who escapes Jihad dies as a hypocrite.
Some more Quranic verses say the same thing as I have listed them down:
2. “It is not proper for the Believers to all go forth together to fight Jihad. A troop from every expedition should remain behind when others go to war” (Qur'an:9:122).
3. “So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam” (Qur'an:47:4).
4. “Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle” (Quran 33:22).
5. “Jihad (warfare) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not” (Quran 2:216).
Let us see what the Hadith says about Jihad:
1. “Allah's Apostle said on the day of the conquest of Mecca, ‘There is no migration now, only Jihad, holy battle. And when you are called for Jihad, you should come out at once’” (Bukhari: V4B53N412).
2. “I heard Muhammad say: ‘I would not stay behind when a raid for Jihad was being mobilized unless it was going to be too hard on the believers. I love that I should be killed in Allah's Cause; then I should be brought back to life and be killed agai’” (Muslim: C28B20N4631).
3. “The Prophet said, ‘Were it not for the believers who do not want to be without me, I would always go forth in army-units setting out for Jihad’” (Bukhari: V4B52N54).
4. “We used to take part in holy battles with the Prophet, providing his fighters with water and bringing the killed and the wounded back to Medina” (Bukhari: V4B52N134).
5. “I saw Allah's Messenger twisting the forelock of a horse with his fingers as he was saying: 'A great benefit. A reward for rearing them for Jihad. The spoils of war have been tied to the forelocks of horses’” (Muslim: C26B20N4614).
There are numerous verses in both the Quran and the Hadith that affirm or confirm Jihad is a warfare waged against the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, and the other non-Muslims. In fact, one should not go to the Quranic and the Hadith verses to find out whether Jihad is warfare or an internal struggle to sublimate the heart from carnal impurity. One should see what is going on in Nigeria, Mali, Indonesia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Egypt, Libya, and in many other Islamic countries. Muslims are waging Jihad right now as I am typing this comment, and someone is being raped or murdered by the Jihadist Muslims.
Therefore, we should never be deceived by people, like Muammar al-Gaddafi, who are trying to tell us that Jihad is not warfare, and Muslims do not kill anyone who abandons his Islamic faith. As always, they are telling lies. Their Quran 4:90 says: “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” Muslims have been killing us by their deceptions and lies for almost 1400 years.
Their best deceptive weapons against the Christians have been that they would say they accept Jesus as a prophet, that they deny that Jihad is warfare, that they say they never lie, and that they never kill any apostate. All these are their daily arrant lies and pure deceptions. Hence, you should never trust them that they accept Jesus as the Son of the Lining God; you should never believe them that Jihad is not warfare; you must not accept their words when they say they would never kill an apostate. You must run away from them and never engage in dialogue with them: they are irrational, timid, minatory, flagitious, thin-skinned, officious, rough-cut, and choleric individuals. For how long the world is going to tolerate them, only the Almighty God knows the answer.
Deceptions, tricks, shenanigans, denial, and distortions of facts are the common characteristics of all Muslims, moderate or radicals, literates or illiterates – all the same.
I have been telling my readers for a long time one cannot argue with Muslims whose minds are closed to honesty but wide open for dishonesty, and one of these dishonest and irrational Muslims is Muammar al-Gaddafi, who, to mislead honest non-Muslims, intentionally asseverates: “The word ‘Jihad’ has nowhere been used in the Quran to mean war in the sense of launching an offensive. It is rather to mean ‘struggle.’ the [sic] action most consistently called for in the Quran is the exercise of patience.”
His interpretation of “Jihad” is absolutely wrong: Jihad doesn’t mean a struggle within one self; it is rather a militaristic adventure to raid or conquer someone’s country, kill the men, capture the women, rape them, enslave them, and loot their properties. The belligerent Muhammad the prophet had made it clear that “Jihad (warfare) is Compulsory” (Muslim: C40B20N4676).
Let us examine what the Quran says about Jihad:
1. “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite” (Noble Qur'an:2:190).
What do we understand from this verse? We understand from the above verse the following facts:
• Jihad is a war that involves the full force of superior number of fighters with fetal weaponry.
• Jihad is very important in Islam and is one of its pillars.
• Islam is spread out, is preached widely, and established by Jihad.
• Allah’s word is made superior and is propagated by Jihad.
• If Jihad is abandoned, then Islam will be destroyed, Muslims will fall into an inferior position; their honor will be lost, their lands will be stolen, and their rule and authority will be vanished.
• Jihad is not a choice; it is every Muslim’s obligatory duty.
• Every Muslim who escapes Jihad dies as a hypocrite.
Some more Quranic verses say the same thing as I have listed them down:
2. “It is not proper for the Believers to all go forth together to fight Jihad. A troop from every expedition should remain behind when others go to war” (Qur'an:9:122).
3. “So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam” (Qur'an:47:4).
4. “Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle” (Quran 33:22).
5. “Jihad (warfare) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not” (Quran 2:216).
Let us see what the Hadith says about Jihad:
1. “Allah's Apostle said on the day of the conquest of Mecca, ‘There is no migration now, only Jihad, holy battle. And when you are called for Jihad, you should come out at once’” (Bukhari: V4B53N412).
2. “I heard Muhammad say: ‘I would not stay behind when a raid for Jihad was being mobilized unless it was going to be too hard on the believers. I love that I should be killed in Allah's Cause; then I should be brought back to life and be killed agai’” (Muslim: C28B20N4631).
3. “The Prophet said, ‘Were it not for the believers who do not want to be without me, I would always go forth in army-units setting out for Jihad’” (Bukhari: V4B52N54).
4. “We used to take part in holy battles with the Prophet, providing his fighters with water and bringing the killed and the wounded back to Medina” (Bukhari: V4B52N134).
5. “I saw Allah's Messenger twisting the forelock of a horse with his fingers as he was saying: 'A great benefit. A reward for rearing them for Jihad. The spoils of war have been tied to the forelocks of horses’” (Muslim: C26B20N4614).
There are numerous verses in both the Quran and the Hadith that affirm or confirm Jihad is a warfare waged against the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, and the other non-Muslims. In fact, one should not go to the Quranic and the Hadith verses to find out whether Jihad is warfare or an internal struggle to sublimate the heart from carnal impurity. One should see what is going on in Nigeria, Mali, Indonesia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Egypt, Libya, and in many other Islamic countries. Muslims are waging Jihad right now as I am typing this comment, and someone is being raped or murdered by the Jihadist Muslims.
Therefore, we should never be deceived by people, like Muammar al-Gaddafi, who are trying to tell us that Jihad is not warfare, and Muslims do not kill anyone who abandons his Islamic faith. As always, they are telling lies. Their Quran 4:90 says: “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” Muslims have been killing us by their deceptions and lies for almost 1400 years.
Their best deceptive weapons against the Christians have been that they would say they accept Jesus as a prophet, that they deny that Jihad is warfare, that they say they never lie, and that they never kill any apostate. All these are their daily arrant lies and pure deceptions. Hence, you should never trust them that they accept Jesus as the Son of the Lining God; you should never believe them that Jihad is not warfare; you must not accept their words when they say they would never kill an apostate. You must run away from them and never engage in dialogue with them: they are irrational, timid, minatory, flagitious, thin-skinned, officious, rough-cut, and choleric individuals. For how long the world is going to tolerate them, only the Almighty God knows the answer.
11/05/12 @ 08:25
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Jullie [Visitor] the farangi wanna be
Expel Muslim Farmers? from where?
which Christian city you talking about? for once I thought you were talking about Gojamme and Gondere farmers, deacons, beggars, pro$titute$, squatters who invaded all the beautiful towns and cities in the hinterland.
Keep lying, keep pumping up your numbers. eventually, that lie will catch up with you.
11/05/12 @ 10:14
Comment from: Semay [Visitor]
There is nothing to wish and there is nothing to make satisfied or the feeling of revenge rather than witnessing when the Saudis and other gulf nations suffer with the worst form of suffering that would be the best answer for every crimes they have committed against the world for so long.
5 oct. 2012
"Two Saudi border guards have been killed in an ambush by gunmen in the south of the country, the interior ministry has said.
It said the attack happened in Najran district on the border with Yemen, without providing further details.
Unconfirmed reports say the gunmen were al-Qaeda militants, who had attempted to cross from Saudi Arabia into Yemen.
Saudi Arabia has been fighting al-Qaeda militants, who have used Yemen's lawlessness to set up bases there.
A number of suspects - both Saudi and Yemeni nationals - have been arrested in recent months by the Saudi authorities."
This is one of the signs soon rather than later the country created in 1934 naming after the Shifta became king because of the English Called Al Saud will be disintegrate. The fair play, truth and god's answer will be answered when the Saudi and gulf nations paid the worst price they have committed against the world including the poor and innocent foreign domestic workers.
Saudi Arabia has more than 200 Tribes and many clans. Saudi Arabs is a Sunni as well as Shia country. The shias are the owner of the Easter provinces where almost all Saudi oil is located and is became part of the 1905 created kingdom in 1934. The Easter provinces became part of the kingdom by force and ever since they are looking to be a separate nation or being part of Iraqi, Kuwait, Bahrain and the likes Shias.
God is great. Soon rather than later Saudi, all gulf nations and other Arabs that are responsible for all crimes in the name of Islam will pay the worst price. They are not Muslims but anti Muslims because of them Islam became not a religion anymore but a barbaric and hostile cult.
5 oct. 2012
"Two Saudi border guards have been killed in an ambush by gunmen in the south of the country, the interior ministry has said.
It said the attack happened in Najran district on the border with Yemen, without providing further details.
Unconfirmed reports say the gunmen were al-Qaeda militants, who had attempted to cross from Saudi Arabia into Yemen.
Saudi Arabia has been fighting al-Qaeda militants, who have used Yemen's lawlessness to set up bases there.
A number of suspects - both Saudi and Yemeni nationals - have been arrested in recent months by the Saudi authorities."
This is one of the signs soon rather than later the country created in 1934 naming after the Shifta became king because of the English Called Al Saud will be disintegrate. The fair play, truth and god's answer will be answered when the Saudi and gulf nations paid the worst price they have committed against the world including the poor and innocent foreign domestic workers.
Saudi Arabia has more than 200 Tribes and many clans. Saudi Arabs is a Sunni as well as Shia country. The shias are the owner of the Easter provinces where almost all Saudi oil is located and is became part of the 1905 created kingdom in 1934. The Easter provinces became part of the kingdom by force and ever since they are looking to be a separate nation or being part of Iraqi, Kuwait, Bahrain and the likes Shias.
God is great. Soon rather than later Saudi, all gulf nations and other Arabs that are responsible for all crimes in the name of Islam will pay the worst price. They are not Muslims but anti Muslims because of them Islam became not a religion anymore but a barbaric and hostile cult.
11/05/12 @ 10:29
Comment from: ja og [Visitor]
Asta b which government of Christians (hypocrite )government u are talking about u are really westing ur time .even things as it is the majority of tha cabinet in Ethopian are Muslims,the 85% of tax payers are Muslims ,90 %the investors are Muslims like alamudi .the 85%ethiopian export like coffee is from Muslim land .the only thing the Christian (rotten orthodox and hypocrite Protestant ) have in Ethiopia are badgers ,prostitute ,tiffs ,and hoples people .
11/05/12 @ 10:38
Comment from: Nostra Daimus [Visitor]
Gadafi Ketafi
Seattle Terrorist
Akmed Gragn
I do not see why you guys can't think independently and are afraid of the Saudi Clergy Terrorist Training Network.
Muslims are peaceful.
Islam is about Love for all.
Islam is not violent.
If all the above is correct, I am sure you agree that...
'Killing in the name of Allah is wrong'
Very simple and short sentence,
say it and BE ACCEPTED!!!!
Amen
Seattle Terrorist
Akmed Gragn
I do not see why you guys can't think independently and are afraid of the Saudi Clergy Terrorist Training Network.
Muslims are peaceful.
Islam is about Love for all.
Islam is not violent.
If all the above is correct, I am sure you agree that...
'Killing in the name of Allah is wrong'
Very simple and short sentence,
say it and BE ACCEPTED!!!!
Amen
11/05/12 @ 10:39
Comment from: ja og [Visitor]
Christians Ethopian are dirty ,LEMAGH baggers only big mouth .most of there woman are prostitute they don't have GOD. Gogam is BUDA !Gonder is Arrogant poor peasant shewa amara majority (tenkayi ) most of Christians woman prostitute .u christians u make ethiopia the poorest land on erth .
11/05/12 @ 10:50
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Ash,
First I admire a lot. Your wit is unmatched. Your self is intact. Your alliance is unbiased and logical. If all Wayanes were like you I would have joined them.
Clearly you hit the logic in expressive way.
Simply speaking just because Italy built Limalimo, just because Italy built Asmara, just becuase Italy modernized Ethiopia, does not mean we owe Italy. First of all they did not ask me if I am willing to be educated. Even if they asked me then they also benefited equally. But that did not stop Ethiopian from been weary of losing their yards to aliens.
By the same token, European English told us we educated you, you were helpless and your English was rudemintary. But we objected to that to. Now, just because Weest invented science does not mean that we should be enslaved by being nuclear free zones. There are limits to basic rights of all nations. May be we one time we helped Sweden for hunger. In other words, what the Muslims are asking is what the christians of Egypt are asking and that is the same rights like everybody else.
Please coll down and be civilized and Ethiopia could be a better place. WE don't need no ones instruction to keep that country safe. Let us build a new democracy in the new Ethiopia. That requires genuineness from all parts.
Bye all. No more insults and no more un found accusations. Ethiopian Muslims are not looking for new converts. Their numbers are not what they want to increase. What they want is to live peacefully in that part of the region.
First I admire a lot. Your wit is unmatched. Your self is intact. Your alliance is unbiased and logical. If all Wayanes were like you I would have joined them.
Clearly you hit the logic in expressive way.
Simply speaking just because Italy built Limalimo, just because Italy built Asmara, just becuase Italy modernized Ethiopia, does not mean we owe Italy. First of all they did not ask me if I am willing to be educated. Even if they asked me then they also benefited equally. But that did not stop Ethiopian from been weary of losing their yards to aliens.
By the same token, European English told us we educated you, you were helpless and your English was rudemintary. But we objected to that to. Now, just because Weest invented science does not mean that we should be enslaved by being nuclear free zones. There are limits to basic rights of all nations. May be we one time we helped Sweden for hunger. In other words, what the Muslims are asking is what the christians of Egypt are asking and that is the same rights like everybody else.
Please coll down and be civilized and Ethiopia could be a better place. WE don't need no ones instruction to keep that country safe. Let us build a new democracy in the new Ethiopia. That requires genuineness from all parts.
Bye all. No more insults and no more un found accusations. Ethiopian Muslims are not looking for new converts. Their numbers are not what they want to increase. What they want is to live peacefully in that part of the region.
11/05/12 @ 10:52
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Radical copts like Maqdala should be watched by authorities. They are the one who incite violence among the population and the first to disappear when the real thing happens. just like that stupid copt from California. There are a few like him on this site. Although Some might be considered mentally unstable nutcases who should not come close to any computer to post in the first place.
11/05/12 @ 10:55
Comment from: Ethiofriendly [Visitor]
More ofeten than not, Amnesty Int'l misses the core issue!
I like them, but they don't have precision and accuracy!
They go by the book when there are somethings the book codes can not unlock...
GoodLuck!
Ethiopia Rise!
I like them, but they don't have precision and accuracy!
They go by the book when there are somethings the book codes can not unlock...
GoodLuck!
Ethiopia Rise!
11/05/12 @ 11:24
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
Where are the thinkers? What is the cause for all this stupidity and vulgarism..? I asked and the answer was in the term "follow your leader" What we see on nazret.com is an exact replica of the foul mouth Meles. Guys, the faker is DEAD with his big mouthing ways.
As I see it, civilicity seems to have lost grip with some of you whose view may be viewed as extreme.
Grow up and be more like.. this fellow..
Selam Le Ethiopia [Visitor]
May The Lord All forgive you! Most of you have lost your mind! The result of TPLFISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and not like this fool..
seattle [Visitor]
The true color of the copts start to show up. better yet They start to pee in their pants.
Amhara orthodox radicals and Tigre mafiosis together at last. still that does not make you the majority morons.
this idiot..
Ogaden Liberation [Visitor]
You are below a grass grazing cattle. These animals at leas have common sense. You cannot be explained by any dictionary world. You are completely useless creature ever GOD has created!
Death to you coming soon!
and this moron..
from: tofu [Visitor]
wey amnesty!! ye islam popo letarguwat ethiopian emyen!! first of all there no such islam yemibal in the history of ethiopia. if they don't like engdenetachwen they can go to saudi, egypt, pakistan or iran.
this crack head..
from: MAHADI AHMED [Visitor]
The very concept of sin comes from the Bible.The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (Amharic: የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋሕዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን AND Ethiopian Evangelical Church Christianity
and this super freak among many that are here..
from: Jullie [Visitor]
The Arabs are doing everything to turn Ethiopia to a muslim majority country. They already have began lying about their numbers... and expell all those muslim farmers who are imported by coordinated money gifts by Arab countries namely Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Save Ethiopia before it becomes a terrorist country like Libanon and Kosovo.
What in hells name is wrong with you people? What happened to tolerating the religious beliefs of others? If this is a political issue it should be just that. If what Eprdf says is true, it should be an issue for every Ethiopian, Muslim and Christian alike because the alternative is a killer of cultures, seriously. If it is not true, it still is a problem for EVERY Ethiopian because Eprdf is trampling on your religious rights. What happens to Muslims today happens to all others tomorrow.
Anyway,
Who says your respective belief is the righteous one anyways? Man oh man.. God did not want all this separation, it is your Churches and Mosques that are having you at each others throats. Grow up and respect the religion, politika, and race of your fellow man. What is wrong here, not meaning to attack personalities but yo'lls thinking, is too many moronic single minded fools. Its like a mob, no rationality just attack the other, in this case Amnesty Int. included, and not the issue.
Come on now yo'll.. think a little.
As I see it, civilicity seems to have lost grip with some of you whose view may be viewed as extreme.
Grow up and be more like.. this fellow..
Selam Le Ethiopia [Visitor]
May The Lord All forgive you! Most of you have lost your mind! The result of TPLFISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and not like this fool..
seattle [Visitor]
The true color of the copts start to show up. better yet They start to pee in their pants.
Amhara orthodox radicals and Tigre mafiosis together at last. still that does not make you the majority morons.
this idiot..
Ogaden Liberation [Visitor]
You are below a grass grazing cattle. These animals at leas have common sense. You cannot be explained by any dictionary world. You are completely useless creature ever GOD has created!
Death to you coming soon!
and this moron..
from: tofu [Visitor]
wey amnesty!! ye islam popo letarguwat ethiopian emyen!! first of all there no such islam yemibal in the history of ethiopia. if they don't like engdenetachwen they can go to saudi, egypt, pakistan or iran.
this crack head..
from: MAHADI AHMED [Visitor]
The very concept of sin comes from the Bible.The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (Amharic: የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋሕዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን AND Ethiopian Evangelical Church Christianity
and this super freak among many that are here..
from: Jullie [Visitor]
The Arabs are doing everything to turn Ethiopia to a muslim majority country. They already have began lying about their numbers... and expell all those muslim farmers who are imported by coordinated money gifts by Arab countries namely Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Save Ethiopia before it becomes a terrorist country like Libanon and Kosovo.
What in hells name is wrong with you people? What happened to tolerating the religious beliefs of others? If this is a political issue it should be just that. If what Eprdf says is true, it should be an issue for every Ethiopian, Muslim and Christian alike because the alternative is a killer of cultures, seriously. If it is not true, it still is a problem for EVERY Ethiopian because Eprdf is trampling on your religious rights. What happens to Muslims today happens to all others tomorrow.
Anyway,
Who says your respective belief is the righteous one anyways? Man oh man.. God did not want all this separation, it is your Churches and Mosques that are having you at each others throats. Grow up and respect the religion, politika, and race of your fellow man. What is wrong here, not meaning to attack personalities but yo'lls thinking, is too many moronic single minded fools. Its like a mob, no rationality just attack the other, in this case Amnesty Int. included, and not the issue.
Come on now yo'll.. think a little.
11/05/12 @ 11:32
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]
Dear G.Amhad,
Coming from u it means a lot to me.
I am not educated like most of them here but I follow very simple logic.
For example about Ethiopian Muslim. I see them as an asset... I give u one very simple example u managed to join Africa cup because of one Muslim guys. So the Ethiopian Muslim are the best Ethiopian we have.
Another example is can u imagine we use Ethiopian Muslim who speak fluent Arabic to attract more Arab investment and build great relationship Meles use Arabic speaker Ethiopians in Nile case... Can u imagine one Ethiopia Muslim speaking a perfect Arabic and explaining our side of story that we have to realase the water in order to generate power...
This the asset we try to see it as liability... In the same case Israel appointed Ethiopian jaw( who speak perfect Amharic) to higher office repersenting Israel in Ethiopia.
Canada also send Eritrea Canadian to Eritrea as couslulate in Eritrea. Beside that trade and business u can say Ethiopian economy is power by Muslim so this is the force that power them trying to destroy
One last point unlike the Christian invester the Muslim doesn't open sex industry such as night club and bar...even the Ethio-American the first thing they do is open up bar and night club in Ethiopia or here in America...all social ill can be traced back to them...
Back to the point
Do Muslim have the right to vote in mosque
It is very simple yes, u can force me to vote any place I like.
Does Muslim have a right to say no to imported religion
Again it is very simple yes they have right to say no
Does Muslim have the right to call mass
The answer is yes because the conustution allow the people right to assemble...
What Muslim doesn't have is to be violence or to break the law..
Coming from u it means a lot to me.
I am not educated like most of them here but I follow very simple logic.
For example about Ethiopian Muslim. I see them as an asset... I give u one very simple example u managed to join Africa cup because of one Muslim guys. So the Ethiopian Muslim are the best Ethiopian we have.
Another example is can u imagine we use Ethiopian Muslim who speak fluent Arabic to attract more Arab investment and build great relationship Meles use Arabic speaker Ethiopians in Nile case... Can u imagine one Ethiopia Muslim speaking a perfect Arabic and explaining our side of story that we have to realase the water in order to generate power...
This the asset we try to see it as liability... In the same case Israel appointed Ethiopian jaw( who speak perfect Amharic) to higher office repersenting Israel in Ethiopia.
Canada also send Eritrea Canadian to Eritrea as couslulate in Eritrea. Beside that trade and business u can say Ethiopian economy is power by Muslim so this is the force that power them trying to destroy
One last point unlike the Christian invester the Muslim doesn't open sex industry such as night club and bar...even the Ethio-American the first thing they do is open up bar and night club in Ethiopia or here in America...all social ill can be traced back to them...
Back to the point
Do Muslim have the right to vote in mosque
It is very simple yes, u can force me to vote any place I like.
Does Muslim have a right to say no to imported religion
Again it is very simple yes they have right to say no
Does Muslim have the right to call mass
The answer is yes because the conustution allow the people right to assemble...
What Muslim doesn't have is to be violence or to break the law..
11/05/12 @ 12:06
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
To all terrorist copts;
What you write here is giving the Wayane criminals a free hand to jail, miam, abuse, twist and crush all innocent Muslims. This will be a catastrophic project and the diaspora is now banking on the most hated Wayanes. This is another test of the copts to show hands for Muslims or you will go down with Meles as traitors of that country as you have sided with oppressors and dictators.
How can one side with Dictators just because they are the enemy of the enemy?
Nostradamus you have no brain so support your dying Wayane again.
What you write here is giving the Wayane criminals a free hand to jail, miam, abuse, twist and crush all innocent Muslims. This will be a catastrophic project and the diaspora is now banking on the most hated Wayanes. This is another test of the copts to show hands for Muslims or you will go down with Meles as traitors of that country as you have sided with oppressors and dictators.
How can one side with Dictators just because they are the enemy of the enemy?
Nostradamus you have no brain so support your dying Wayane again.
11/05/12 @ 12:07
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
True! Atheists don't run around advocating the marginalizing, oppression, much less the killing of those of other faiths, like Crusaders (incl. George W. Bush and Ann Coulter, who said that all Muslims "should be converted at gunpoint"! That is NOT what Jesus believed.
there are copts who dream about christian Island. Ethiopia is christian land but have nothing to show off other than their bankrupt Menelik II who was wrong in every turn against the South.
there are copts who dream about christian Island. Ethiopia is christian land but have nothing to show off other than their bankrupt Menelik II who was wrong in every turn against the South.
11/05/12 @ 12:20
Comment from: Nostra Daimus [Visitor]
@ Amnesty International
Question for you...
In Bahrain a lot ofBombs just went off set by Muslim Jihadists. A lot of innocent women, children, old people were killed.
How would you react if that happened in your Home Country of your Major Donor? How about renouncing that? or are you in it?
Frankly do the world a big favor and take all these scums, trouble makers, murderers to your country and let us live in a civilized manner.
It is very logical that the Ethiopian Government is trying to avoid and protect it's INNOCENT CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM citizens from something like what happened in Bahrain.
Bahrain, we the peaceful public understand your pain.
Question for you...
In Bahrain a lot ofBombs just went off set by Muslim Jihadists. A lot of innocent women, children, old people were killed.
How would you react if that happened in your Home Country of your Major Donor? How about renouncing that? or are you in it?
Frankly do the world a big favor and take all these scums, trouble makers, murderers to your country and let us live in a civilized manner.
It is very logical that the Ethiopian Government is trying to avoid and protect it's INNOCENT CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM citizens from something like what happened in Bahrain.
Bahrain, we the peaceful public understand your pain.
11/05/12 @ 12:43
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu and Hagere Ethiopia,
You seem to me victims of western media narratives. The meaning of Jihad is also to strive in economic and social spheres as well. You quote one verse from the Quraan you can't even try to quote other verses corresponding to the issue.
I can Quote the Bible, the Old Testament which says ' when you go to the village kill every thing that moves'.
Jesus said 'I have not come to bring peace. I came to bring war'.
Jesus also said ' If you don't have a sword, sell your garment and buy a sword'.
Jesus said 'I came to separate father from the son'. He also said 'let the dead bury the dead'.
If you want me to read the Bible literally, I can read you even worst things.
People like you who read scriptures with out qualified speed dis information. They are like some one who is not a surgeon, yet performs surgery by reading surgery text books. Therefore, first try to have a better understanding of the subject you talking about.
What you have written here has nothing to do with Ethiopian Muslims. Ethiopia is their country, they going no where, and you can do nothing about it. ARAT NATIB.
You seem to me victims of western media narratives. The meaning of Jihad is also to strive in economic and social spheres as well. You quote one verse from the Quraan you can't even try to quote other verses corresponding to the issue.
I can Quote the Bible, the Old Testament which says ' when you go to the village kill every thing that moves'.
Jesus said 'I have not come to bring peace. I came to bring war'.
Jesus also said ' If you don't have a sword, sell your garment and buy a sword'.
Jesus said 'I came to separate father from the son'. He also said 'let the dead bury the dead'.
If you want me to read the Bible literally, I can read you even worst things.
People like you who read scriptures with out qualified speed dis information. They are like some one who is not a surgeon, yet performs surgery by reading surgery text books. Therefore, first try to have a better understanding of the subject you talking about.
What you have written here has nothing to do with Ethiopian Muslims. Ethiopia is their country, they going no where, and you can do nothing about it. ARAT NATIB.
11/05/12 @ 14:03
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Seattle & Gragn Ah'Moron
What region do you hail from, exactly? Why are you hiding? At least, Gragn Ah'Moron dreams to be Amhara & Tigray mix
Aydel?
In any case, tell us which region in Ethiopia you hail from so we will tell you exactly what time it is? At the end of the day, one Ethiopia & Unity does NOT in any way give every clown in town to disrespect Amharas or Christians for that matter. How about you stick to your Ogaden deserts, Silte Zone, Afar, Issa deserts? Why are you always hiding behind Oromia, South? For they are majority Christians?? Hello!! I told you last time what % of Oromos are Muslims? Only 29% are the rest are NOT. So at times like this when radicals aka tiny Silte, Harari, Afar, Immigrants Somalis are disrupting our nation, majority will tell you to go to hell!
I was even sympathetic to Ethio Muslim's cause until I read the evils shouting behind them, disrespecting Christians at any given opportunity, Khat heads Jezba Hula aka Yourself & Gragn Ah'Moron. Amharas did NOT invade No Muslim Region, Quite the contrary!! Go to hell. Whether you like it or NOT Ethiopia is majority Christian nation. Muslims are 33% are according to official figures from the over all population but I suspect Zenawi tampered with this data & over inflated your numbers for it is simply NOT logical to have that many Muslim numbers considering the fact that every Islamic Tribe in Ethiopia are MINOR!! Take the Harari, Silte, Wolloye, Afar, Issa, Alaba for example? Tiny flies. Only Oromo Muslims are 8 million & they are the largest single Islamic tribes. Other than that Somalis in Eastern region outnumber every Ethiopian Muslims in that land at 5 million! Get over yourselves! You wanna live in Muslim Majority land, how about Somalia where the real time pig Gragn Ahmad as well as our in house Gragn Ah'Moron hails from? They have plenty of space there after offloading half their population as refugees in almost every part of the CHRISTIAN world on welfare mostly. A$$holes! Get a grip, already!
You wanna live in peace with respect and harmony, fine. You wanna be disrespectful & trumpet Arab pig's dark ages ideologies & ways of life, try to be exclusive? That is more than fine, bring it on, you will see where that will get you? You will be pushed to your Zombie status & get Muted like you were for 1400 years. Khat grazing hypocritical Zombies who are forever criticizing & judging other's way of life & religion while living PURE lies, doable lives, your holly cities are evil infiltrated full of arrogant, worldly, cruel, abusive, homosexual Arabs. Heck you on about? Here you are disrespecting your fellow Ethiopian women forced into wrong ways out oh sheer poverty as prostitutes etc but who is their head client? Who is raping house maids in Arabia? Insulting Christian lands as if Islamic tribes have any viable lands? The heck you fooling? Allah? Don't you know Allah knows what murderous, hypocritical, materialistic judgmental evils most of the Islamic world are? Who you fooling, exactly? Majority of the Islamic world don't even practice what they preach, they bend & scream Allah Akbar countless times a day while at the same time committing the most heinous crime forbidden on every single religions book under the sun including their Quran? Massacring, slaughtering, decapitating human beings men, women, elderly, children in the name of Allah & scream Allahu Akbar??? Oh, please! Retarded folk.
The other day, they were showing the most despicable criminal act in Syria by both Government & Militant soldiers. Both side rain bullet on each other, decapitate, blast each other's heads with bullets, decapitate captive POWs and both sides scream Allahu Akbar. Nauseating clowns! May Allah rot all radicals in hell & on earth. Amen
What region do you hail from, exactly? Why are you hiding? At least, Gragn Ah'Moron dreams to be Amhara & Tigray mix
Aydel? In any case, tell us which region in Ethiopia you hail from so we will tell you exactly what time it is? At the end of the day, one Ethiopia & Unity does NOT in any way give every clown in town to disrespect Amharas or Christians for that matter. How about you stick to your Ogaden deserts, Silte Zone, Afar, Issa deserts? Why are you always hiding behind Oromia, South? For they are majority Christians?? Hello!! I told you last time what % of Oromos are Muslims? Only 29% are the rest are NOT. So at times like this when radicals aka tiny Silte, Harari, Afar, Immigrants Somalis are disrupting our nation, majority will tell you to go to hell!
I was even sympathetic to Ethio Muslim's cause until I read the evils shouting behind them, disrespecting Christians at any given opportunity, Khat heads Jezba Hula aka Yourself & Gragn Ah'Moron. Amharas did NOT invade No Muslim Region, Quite the contrary!! Go to hell. Whether you like it or NOT Ethiopia is majority Christian nation. Muslims are 33% are according to official figures from the over all population but I suspect Zenawi tampered with this data & over inflated your numbers for it is simply NOT logical to have that many Muslim numbers considering the fact that every Islamic Tribe in Ethiopia are MINOR!! Take the Harari, Silte, Wolloye, Afar, Issa, Alaba for example? Tiny flies. Only Oromo Muslims are 8 million & they are the largest single Islamic tribes. Other than that Somalis in Eastern region outnumber every Ethiopian Muslims in that land at 5 million! Get over yourselves! You wanna live in Muslim Majority land, how about Somalia where the real time pig Gragn Ahmad as well as our in house Gragn Ah'Moron hails from? They have plenty of space there after offloading half their population as refugees in almost every part of the CHRISTIAN world on welfare mostly. A$$holes! Get a grip, already!
You wanna live in peace with respect and harmony, fine. You wanna be disrespectful & trumpet Arab pig's dark ages ideologies & ways of life, try to be exclusive? That is more than fine, bring it on, you will see where that will get you? You will be pushed to your Zombie status & get Muted like you were for 1400 years. Khat grazing hypocritical Zombies who are forever criticizing & judging other's way of life & religion while living PURE lies, doable lives, your holly cities are evil infiltrated full of arrogant, worldly, cruel, abusive, homosexual Arabs. Heck you on about? Here you are disrespecting your fellow Ethiopian women forced into wrong ways out oh sheer poverty as prostitutes etc but who is their head client? Who is raping house maids in Arabia? Insulting Christian lands as if Islamic tribes have any viable lands? The heck you fooling? Allah? Don't you know Allah knows what murderous, hypocritical, materialistic judgmental evils most of the Islamic world are? Who you fooling, exactly? Majority of the Islamic world don't even practice what they preach, they bend & scream Allah Akbar countless times a day while at the same time committing the most heinous crime forbidden on every single religions book under the sun including their Quran? Massacring, slaughtering, decapitating human beings men, women, elderly, children in the name of Allah & scream Allahu Akbar??? Oh, please! Retarded folk.
The other day, they were showing the most despicable criminal act in Syria by both Government & Militant soldiers. Both side rain bullet on each other, decapitate, blast each other's heads with bullets, decapitate captive POWs and both sides scream Allahu Akbar. Nauseating clowns! May Allah rot all radicals in hell & on earth. Amen
11/05/12 @ 14:49
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
My dearest Amhara Princess (visitor),
You gave Gragn Ahmed the words he deserves, but he is busy chewing his chat and smoking his cigar; therefore, I don’t think he understands the seriousness of your valid comment. All the time, he is boasting there are 60 million Muslims in Ethiopia and inciting them to secede and form their own Islamic government. How foolish he is indeed!
You gave Gragn Ahmed the words he deserves, but he is busy chewing his chat and smoking his cigar; therefore, I don’t think he understands the seriousness of your valid comment. All the time, he is boasting there are 60 million Muslims in Ethiopia and inciting them to secede and form their own Islamic government. How foolish he is indeed!
11/05/12 @ 15:16
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Sorsa the idiot (visitor),
Read my previous response to Mr. Muammar al-Gaddafi (visitor), and that is enough for you as a novice and ignorant of both the Holy Bible and the fictitious Quran. I cannot detach myself from telling the truth that Jihad is a declaration of war by your Jihadist Muslims to invade a Jewish or a Christian country. Everyone knows that except the lunatic Muslims of your kind.
Have a nice day, follow your camels, wash your ass, pray five times a day for your safety, and deceive your moon-god, Allah, the creator of Muhammad the false prophet, messenger of the Dark Angel.
Your comment will be ignored, and I have given the reason in my previous comment that there is no reason to argue with liars, deceivers, and rapists of the Arab-Muslim world.
If you continue protesting in the Christian city of Addis Ababa, the Ethiopian Christian government has the absolute right to expel you from the Christian land of Ethiopia and send you to your barren mother land – Mecca – where Christians are not allowed to build a Church or to read their Holy Bibles publicly.
Read my previous response to Mr. Muammar al-Gaddafi (visitor), and that is enough for you as a novice and ignorant of both the Holy Bible and the fictitious Quran. I cannot detach myself from telling the truth that Jihad is a declaration of war by your Jihadist Muslims to invade a Jewish or a Christian country. Everyone knows that except the lunatic Muslims of your kind.
Have a nice day, follow your camels, wash your ass, pray five times a day for your safety, and deceive your moon-god, Allah, the creator of Muhammad the false prophet, messenger of the Dark Angel.
Your comment will be ignored, and I have given the reason in my previous comment that there is no reason to argue with liars, deceivers, and rapists of the Arab-Muslim world.
If you continue protesting in the Christian city of Addis Ababa, the Ethiopian Christian government has the absolute right to expel you from the Christian land of Ethiopia and send you to your barren mother land – Mecca – where Christians are not allowed to build a Church or to read their Holy Bibles publicly.
11/05/12 @ 15:59
Comment from: Tulu Proud ET [Visitor]
If EPRDF is sincere and thinks that Saudi Arabia is funding Muslim radicalism in Ethiopia then the frist and the most prudent action to take is to close the Saudi Arabian Embassy.
Otherwise it is the same old Woyane divisive propaganda to promote and continue with Woyane tyranny.
Christians and Muslims have lived and will continue to live in peace. Nobody will be fooled and fall victim to Woyane desperate power and money greed.
Otherwise it is the same old Woyane divisive propaganda to promote and continue with Woyane tyranny.
Christians and Muslims have lived and will continue to live in peace. Nobody will be fooled and fall victim to Woyane desperate power and money greed.
11/05/12 @ 17:13
Comment from: Sorsa [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu (stinky)
You are the most disgusting raw minded ass. You are the lowest IQ, like your thug brother Amhara Princess. You talk about camel. Why don't you talk about youself? May be you put on your first shoes on your shafafa leg when your Woyane invaded Ethiopia and entered Addis. Probably, you bought your first decent cloth from a Muslim shop. Ethiopian Muslims made you put on decent cloth and liberated you from your Kimal infested bituto. You stink. Get lost and don't come back.
You are the most disgusting raw minded ass. You are the lowest IQ, like your thug brother Amhara Princess. You talk about camel. Why don't you talk about youself? May be you put on your first shoes on your shafafa leg when your Woyane invaded Ethiopia and entered Addis. Probably, you bought your first decent cloth from a Muslim shop. Ethiopian Muslims made you put on decent cloth and liberated you from your Kimal infested bituto. You stink. Get lost and don't come back.
11/05/12 @ 17:34
Comment from: ethiopiawi [Visitor]
the hell with you all amnesty international bums.when it comes to our enternal/regional religious affairs,we are all united behind our government fullheartedly.please stop interfering with our local religious issues.we trust our government's judgement on this one.the future belongs to modernization not savegery.we encourage the ethiopian government to keep up the good work in cleansing fundamentalism from ethiopia.good job.
11/05/12 @ 21:28
Comment from: ethiopiawi [Visitor]
by the way i want to associate myself with assta B. gettu's comment in its entirety whole hearteadly.death to the savages !!!
11/05/12 @ 21:33
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Amhara P from the north said,
"what region do you hail you from?" kkk
I am an Ethiopian Muslim. get it?isn't that enough for you? I bet it is killing you from inside not knowing where I came from or that I didn't identify myself with any tribe or region. why do you want to know where I hail from anyway? so you can label me like you always do with any none amhara? Preach One Ethiopia from outside but always quick to label someone. One day you are against Pentes, the next day against Muslims. you have a bone to pick with walaytas, Siltes, Woloyes, Somalis, Hararis, Afars, Tigres,Oromos, all of the southern people. tell me anyone you did not call names? even the Kikiyus, bantus from outside Ethiopia.
I never heard you saying a word when all the scums of the earth insult Islam and advocate for eradication of Muslims from Ethiopia. But you are quick to open your loud mouth of someone say somthing about your sorry tribe. typical hypocrat.
No more hiding under the banner of one Ethiopia. you are fighting for your orthodox religion and Amhara tribe pure and simple. you might as well create the Amhara People liberation front like your cousins from Dedebit.
Like Abraham Lincon said:"You can fool all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all the time" Awenabaj
11/06/12 @ 03:23
Comment from: Nostra Daimus [Visitor]
@Amnesty International
Who in their right mind would like the following to happen in their country?
Ethiopia's Christians and Muslims have been living in harmony for a long time and will do everything it can to maintain it that way.
Amnesty, go to Pakistan that's where you are needed most.
ISLAMABAD (AP) — A Pakistani couple accused of killing their 15-year-old daughter by pouring acid on her carried out the attack because she sullied the family's honor by looking at a boy, the couple said in an interview broadcast Monday by the BBC.
The girl's death underlines the problem of so-called "honor killings" in Pakistan where women are often killed for marrying or having relationships not approved by their families or because they are perceived to have somehow dishonored their family.
The girl's parents, Mohammad Zafar and his wife Zaheen, recounted the Oct. 29 incident from jail. The father said the girl had turned to look at a boy who drove by on a motorcycle, and he told her it was wrong.
"She said 'I didn't do it on purpose. I won't look again.' By then I had already thrown the acid. It was her destiny to die this way," the girl's mother told the British broadcaster.
Television footage of the couple showed them standing behind bars in separate, but adjoining jail cells.
The father said the family had already come under public censure because of their older daughter's behavior, but he did not detail what exactly he meant.
Pakistani officials initially said the attack occurred because the girl supposedly had an affair with a boy.
According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, at least 943 women were killed in the name of honor last year. Only 20 of the women were reported to have been given medical care before they died, the report said. The real toll is believed to be higher because many of the crimes go unreported.
"Throughout the year, women were callously killed in the name of honor when they went against family wishes in any way, or even on the basis of suspicion that they did so. Women were sometimes killed in the name of honor over property disputes and inheritance rights," the report said.
Who in their right mind would like the following to happen in their country?
Ethiopia's Christians and Muslims have been living in harmony for a long time and will do everything it can to maintain it that way.
Amnesty, go to Pakistan that's where you are needed most.
ISLAMABAD (AP) — A Pakistani couple accused of killing their 15-year-old daughter by pouring acid on her carried out the attack because she sullied the family's honor by looking at a boy, the couple said in an interview broadcast Monday by the BBC.
The girl's death underlines the problem of so-called "honor killings" in Pakistan where women are often killed for marrying or having relationships not approved by their families or because they are perceived to have somehow dishonored their family.
The girl's parents, Mohammad Zafar and his wife Zaheen, recounted the Oct. 29 incident from jail. The father said the girl had turned to look at a boy who drove by on a motorcycle, and he told her it was wrong.
"She said 'I didn't do it on purpose. I won't look again.' By then I had already thrown the acid. It was her destiny to die this way," the girl's mother told the British broadcaster.
Television footage of the couple showed them standing behind bars in separate, but adjoining jail cells.
The father said the family had already come under public censure because of their older daughter's behavior, but he did not detail what exactly he meant.
Pakistani officials initially said the attack occurred because the girl supposedly had an affair with a boy.
According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, at least 943 women were killed in the name of honor last year. Only 20 of the women were reported to have been given medical care before they died, the report said. The real toll is believed to be higher because many of the crimes go unreported.
"Throughout the year, women were callously killed in the name of honor when they went against family wishes in any way, or even on the basis of suspicion that they did so. Women were sometimes killed in the name of honor over property disputes and inheritance rights," the report said.
11/06/12 @ 12:09
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Nostra Diamus,...
You gave an impossible task to these losers wanna be human right activists.
Have you ever seen this coward AI, group talking about these talibans and alqaida human right abuse, or any islamic extrimists killing inocent children, men and women? NEVER! Why? Because the extrimists will come after them and kill them.
The coward amnesty international only knows to run their mouth and cry against decent govt like ours. They don't even say anything if they suspect a certain govt is rogue one like Iran or North Korea, because they think they will send an assasination squad on them.
You gave an impossible task to these losers wanna be human right activists.
Have you ever seen this coward AI, group talking about these talibans and alqaida human right abuse, or any islamic extrimists killing inocent children, men and women? NEVER! Why? Because the extrimists will come after them and kill them.
The coward amnesty international only knows to run their mouth and cry against decent govt like ours. They don't even say anything if they suspect a certain govt is rogue one like Iran or North Korea, because they think they will send an assasination squad on them.
11/06/12 @ 13:00
Comment from: Magdala [Visitor]
Some of the posts are really ridiculous. We have been tolerating political Islam and now the Arabs and TPLF-EPRDF by proxy are using it to foment civil wars in Africa.
The point is to diffferentiate between those true followers of Islam and those who are slaves of Arab Imperialism.
Some of the poins posted above are very emotional but in the realm of the possibility.
We have to tolerate each other as ethiopians and not allow internal and external enemies to divide us.
From Meqdellawi
Greta Grandson of Emperor Tewedros II
The point is to diffferentiate between those true followers of Islam and those who are slaves of Arab Imperialism.
Some of the poins posted above are very emotional but in the realm of the possibility.
We have to tolerate each other as ethiopians and not allow internal and external enemies to divide us.
From Meqdellawi
Greta Grandson of Emperor Tewedros II
11/06/12 @ 16:43
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Seattle aka the retard Arab wanna be clown
Well, Obviously, you are definitely NOT confident enough to say where you hail from. This leave us to think that you are from one of those tiny fly Arab wannabe minority Silte or Harari Radical group. Logic says, if you were from any viable, credible, MAJOR tribe, especially Oromo, you would have been the FIRST to say it, said it a long time ago!!! So, quit hiding behind others, feeble radical. Trying to hide behind others, pretending to speak for others speaks volumes! Slime ball, please!. As I said here many times before, I don't give a flying Monkeys about what tribe you are, who you are, which country on planet earth you hail from, as long as you degrade, insult Amharas/Christians for no reason, you be told exactly what time it is! Get that? You can be Kikuyu, Fulani, Dinka, Dorze, Welamo, Silte, Tumi Tigray, Somali for all I care? As long as you spew filth, you will be greeted with filth. Quit crying & defend your indefensible corner.
FYI, I have never seen any Ethiopian Christians insult Ethiopian Muslims here until "Gragn Ah'Moron", yourself and the other "Ye Aymro Zegemtegna" aka "Ethiopiawinet" started your trash, you deserve every response you got! You House Niggers often clash with Christians on this site defending your filthy Masters aka Arabs better quit crying. You are still a fool being herded like a sheep? Nothing changed. Nobody fooled you, you radicals are born Goddamn fools. That much is obvious when you blast yourselves up and take human beings that God created with you for 72 virgins. What fool is there other than that? May I ask?
Well, Obviously, you are definitely NOT confident enough to say where you hail from. This leave us to think that you are from one of those tiny fly Arab wannabe minority Silte or Harari Radical group. Logic says, if you were from any viable, credible, MAJOR tribe, especially Oromo, you would have been the FIRST to say it, said it a long time ago!!! So, quit hiding behind others, feeble radical. Trying to hide behind others, pretending to speak for others speaks volumes! Slime ball, please!. As I said here many times before, I don't give a flying Monkeys about what tribe you are, who you are, which country on planet earth you hail from, as long as you degrade, insult Amharas/Christians for no reason, you be told exactly what time it is! Get that? You can be Kikuyu, Fulani, Dinka, Dorze, Welamo, Silte, Tumi Tigray, Somali for all I care? As long as you spew filth, you will be greeted with filth. Quit crying & defend your indefensible corner.
FYI, I have never seen any Ethiopian Christians insult Ethiopian Muslims here until "Gragn Ah'Moron", yourself and the other "Ye Aymro Zegemtegna" aka "Ethiopiawinet" started your trash, you deserve every response you got! You House Niggers often clash with Christians on this site defending your filthy Masters aka Arabs better quit crying. You are still a fool being herded like a sheep? Nothing changed. Nobody fooled you, you radicals are born Goddamn fools. That much is obvious when you blast yourselves up and take human beings that God created with you for 72 virgins. What fool is there other than that? May I ask?
11/06/12 @ 16:48
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Amhara gered,
What else is new here except you filthy bastard minority amharas vomiting as usual.
I can tell you missing some thing at home and your biologocial clock ticking that is why you bring your frusturation here. come here and bark on everyone like a mad dog. your mood going up and down every other day.Go find yourself a Dinka who can satisfy your urge. Maybe it will change your attitude of non Amharas.
Funny Butt naked Amhara goat herders,Ye Arab gereds, buna bet serategna, cave dweling deacons who has been islolated from the rest of the world for centuries and their dummy children has the audacity to call others illitrates. dedeb hula!
11/06/12 @ 20:58
Comment from: Amhara Princess [Visitor]
@ Seattle aka Radical Arab wannabe Geriatric
Hahahahaa! What mood swing are you talking here? My mood on this site is always happy & cheerful, thanks to retards who keep me well entertained. No such thing as mood wing on this site, the only thing that swings here is your chimp a$$ from one false banana tree to another! Smh! LMAO.
FYI, you simply DO NOT have the intelligence, sharpness, the wit, wisdom, street creed, flexibility, edge, class etc etc to impact negatively or positively on my mood. I have been reading what you have to say since I came to this site, even when you didn't know how to speall your own user name (Seatle) you used to be called, if I recall?? LMAO. (one year)!!
ROFL@ Amhara Minority? In your Khat Grazing Jezba dreams!
Fact Number one:
* Amharas are the SECOND LARGEST TRIBES IN THAT LAND & the second MOST productive/Richest REGION NEXT TO VAST OROMIA! Get that, knuckle head? There is absolutely nothing minority/Minor about Amharas the majority & the beautiful. The actual numbers of Amharas in Ethiopia is 27-30 million and Oromos are 34 -38 million.
Fact Number two:
* The rest of you tiny flies EACH are all OUTNUMBERED by foreign Somalis in Eastern Province at 5-6 million!!!! Did you know this, retard? All other tribes in Ethiopia each, more especially, the Islamic TRIBES are TINY in numbers, in your hundred thousands lol Er'm Harari (183,415) Silte?? Cough cough, much less than the Hararis! The overall Gurage number is just over 1.8 million. The Afar, Issa combined together are 1.2 million so the rest Islamic tribes are practically non existent.
Fact number three
* Oromos make the largest Muslim population in that land at 29% of their overall population. Go figure! I think you have like couple of hundred other Muslims in Alaba, few in Tigrayi lol. FYI, the Amhara Muslims at 3 million BY FAR OUTNUMBER all the rest of Islamic tribes in Ethiopia when you compare them with each one! Did you know there are more Amhara Muslims than Gurages, Harari, Afar, Issa, Silte, Alaba etc etc when compared to each separately? Where do retarded people who have NO CLUE about their own nation, capabilities, their actual numbers, significance etc come from? Aliens? Semi illiterate nomadic clown. Know yourself before you talk about others. Amharas took your garbage & disrespect for the past 20 years extremely lightly because we know your likes are inferiority complex ridden TPLF tools, tiny minority just trying to make yourselves feel better, massaging your tiny egos so we pitied you for far too long. Now, you overstepped the mark, you'll be told exactly what time it is! We've had enough of your kinds. It doesn't matter who you are. Your filthy behaviors will be greeted with filth from here forth, as I said. Tegbaban?
Fact Number four:
ONLY United/Unity mentality and stand keeps you tiny insignificant barren dwellers, radical folks equals with Amharas,(As Ethiopians). Other than that, if you're talking tribal nonsense, disrespect & none existent significance, we'll tell you exactly where to get off? "Mengedun Cherk Yargilachu" Amen. You'll see who the loser be?
Fact Number five:
* Amharas are also the most educated tribes, highly productive tribes in all fields in Ethiopia. Fact. There is no intelligent, sophisticated, top, bottom professions/fields in Ethiopia that Amharas do not excel at. Fact.
Princess over here is also the most fresh, sharp (Habesha) aka (Amhara the beautiful) aka Ethiopian you have never seen. I can tell you are definitely older or same age as my parents! So spare us your cheap, retarded profiling PUNK a$$ House Nigger & talk about your nomadic "Bozene" radical clan gallivanting from one green region to another, destroying vegetation, Geriatric...Only losers become low ranking profilers on this site...
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Hahahahaa! What mood swing are you talking here? My mood on this site is always happy & cheerful, thanks to retards who keep me well entertained. No such thing as mood wing on this site, the only thing that swings here is your chimp a$$ from one false banana tree to another! Smh! LMAO.
FYI, you simply DO NOT have the intelligence, sharpness, the wit, wisdom, street creed, flexibility, edge, class etc etc to impact negatively or positively on my mood. I have been reading what you have to say since I came to this site, even when you didn't know how to speall your own user name (Seatle) you used to be called, if I recall?? LMAO. (one year)!!
ROFL@ Amhara Minority? In your Khat Grazing Jezba dreams!
Fact Number one:
* Amharas are the SECOND LARGEST TRIBES IN THAT LAND & the second MOST productive/Richest REGION NEXT TO VAST OROMIA! Get that, knuckle head? There is absolutely nothing minority/Minor about Amharas the majority & the beautiful. The actual numbers of Amharas in Ethiopia is 27-30 million and Oromos are 34 -38 million.
Fact Number two:
* The rest of you tiny flies EACH are all OUTNUMBERED by foreign Somalis in Eastern Province at 5-6 million!!!! Did you know this, retard? All other tribes in Ethiopia each, more especially, the Islamic TRIBES are TINY in numbers, in your hundred thousands lol Er'm Harari (183,415) Silte?? Cough cough, much less than the Hararis! The overall Gurage number is just over 1.8 million. The Afar, Issa combined together are 1.2 million so the rest Islamic tribes are practically non existent.
Fact number three
* Oromos make the largest Muslim population in that land at 29% of their overall population. Go figure! I think you have like couple of hundred other Muslims in Alaba, few in Tigrayi lol. FYI, the Amhara Muslims at 3 million BY FAR OUTNUMBER all the rest of Islamic tribes in Ethiopia when you compare them with each one! Did you know there are more Amhara Muslims than Gurages, Harari, Afar, Issa, Silte, Alaba etc etc when compared to each separately? Where do retarded people who have NO CLUE about their own nation, capabilities, their actual numbers, significance etc come from? Aliens? Semi illiterate nomadic clown. Know yourself before you talk about others. Amharas took your garbage & disrespect for the past 20 years extremely lightly because we know your likes are inferiority complex ridden TPLF tools, tiny minority just trying to make yourselves feel better, massaging your tiny egos so we pitied you for far too long. Now, you overstepped the mark, you'll be told exactly what time it is! We've had enough of your kinds. It doesn't matter who you are. Your filthy behaviors will be greeted with filth from here forth, as I said. Tegbaban?
Fact Number four:
ONLY United/Unity mentality and stand keeps you tiny insignificant barren dwellers, radical folks equals with Amharas,(As Ethiopians). Other than that, if you're talking tribal nonsense, disrespect & none existent significance, we'll tell you exactly where to get off? "Mengedun Cherk Yargilachu" Amen. You'll see who the loser be?
Fact Number five:
* Amharas are also the most educated tribes, highly productive tribes in all fields in Ethiopia. Fact. There is no intelligent, sophisticated, top, bottom professions/fields in Ethiopia that Amharas do not excel at. Fact.
Princess over here is also the most fresh, sharp (Habesha) aka (Amhara the beautiful) aka Ethiopian you have never seen. I can tell you are definitely older or same age as my parents! So spare us your cheap, retarded profiling PUNK a$$ House Nigger & talk about your nomadic "Bozene" radical clan gallivanting from one green region to another, destroying vegetation, Geriatric...Only losers become low ranking profilers on this site...
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11/07/12 @ 14:21
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Amhara gered,
"The second largest tribe in that land" ..."while Muslims are a few here and there". kkkk who is doing the counting? Leras Sekorsu Ayasanesu yebal yelem.
At least you admit you’re the second in the land for a change. That is progress my Amhara friend. Once upon a time you are number one on the land. No one exists except you. Inflating yourself like a balloon. Complaining on why the locals speak and learn their own language in school. Now reality starts to sink in. Soon when the Wolloyes declare that they are no longer Amharas but just Amharized Oromos, they got nothing to do with you and you are confined just two ancestoral regions of Gojjam and Gonder you will start to feel what a real minority means.
Funny you used to say that the eastern region is dominated by Amharas just because of the few recent settlers, carpet baggers, guests and squatters here and there.
"Mengedun Cherk Yargilachu" Amen.
If I were you, I wouldn't wish that to myself. Imagine what you looks like if just only the Afars, Somalis, and Oromos together create a belt around you? That means no Assab, no Djibouti, no sea outlet, nothing, nada. If anyone, it is us who could say Mengedun cherk Yarigilachu, Let's see how long you survive.
"Princess here" kkkk kkkkk Aynen Atasikew.
Melke teffu Besim yedegifu endetebalew. Don’t forget a Dinka, a dorze or wolamo, as partner is still an option. Not they are ugly but they have some qualities the Northern midgets can’t offer. Better yet, they give you the chance to see Ethiopia outside your tribal box.
"The second largest tribe in that land" ..."while Muslims are a few here and there". kkkk who is doing the counting? Leras Sekorsu Ayasanesu yebal yelem.
At least you admit you’re the second in the land for a change. That is progress my Amhara friend. Once upon a time you are number one on the land. No one exists except you. Inflating yourself like a balloon. Complaining on why the locals speak and learn their own language in school. Now reality starts to sink in. Soon when the Wolloyes declare that they are no longer Amharas but just Amharized Oromos, they got nothing to do with you and you are confined just two ancestoral regions of Gojjam and Gonder you will start to feel what a real minority means.
Funny you used to say that the eastern region is dominated by Amharas just because of the few recent settlers, carpet baggers, guests and squatters here and there.
"Mengedun Cherk Yargilachu" Amen.
If I were you, I wouldn't wish that to myself. Imagine what you looks like if just only the Afars, Somalis, and Oromos together create a belt around you? That means no Assab, no Djibouti, no sea outlet, nothing, nada. If anyone, it is us who could say Mengedun cherk Yarigilachu, Let's see how long you survive.
"Princess here" kkkk kkkkk Aynen Atasikew.
Melke teffu Besim yedegifu endetebalew. Don’t forget a Dinka, a dorze or wolamo, as partner is still an option. Not they are ugly but they have some qualities the Northern midgets can’t offer. Better yet, they give you the chance to see Ethiopia outside your tribal box.
11/08/12 @ 02:20
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Amhara piss
I had a lot of respect for you until you stood by the evil Assta Getu. I never insulted copts until I found Assta Getu insulting our religion. No even Debtra insults our Prophet like Marcus and Assta Getu do.
But as I told every body there was a lot of hate in this room. Very childish accusations against Islam.
So are you telling me that we will be safe in the eyes of copts.
Let me tell you having heard enough about Muslims of Ethiopia I have now decided to call copts of Ethiopia the most extreme form of christianity. I wish we could forgive but it is really more than forgiveness. Ask the Tigrayns how they hate Muslims. They don't say it openly but they are very very racist or religious sealots. Ask any Muslim from Endaselasie. Ask any Muslim from Axum. Ask any Muslim from Maksenit Gondar. Ask any Muslim in Gondar. Gondar is actually better than Wollo. It is better than Tigray.
I had a lot of respect for you until you stood by the evil Assta Getu. I never insulted copts until I found Assta Getu insulting our religion. No even Debtra insults our Prophet like Marcus and Assta Getu do.
But as I told every body there was a lot of hate in this room. Very childish accusations against Islam.
So are you telling me that we will be safe in the eyes of copts.
Let me tell you having heard enough about Muslims of Ethiopia I have now decided to call copts of Ethiopia the most extreme form of christianity. I wish we could forgive but it is really more than forgiveness. Ask the Tigrayns how they hate Muslims. They don't say it openly but they are very very racist or religious sealots. Ask any Muslim from Endaselasie. Ask any Muslim from Axum. Ask any Muslim from Maksenit Gondar. Ask any Muslim in Gondar. Gondar is actually better than Wollo. It is better than Tigray.
11/09/12 @ 11:49
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