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How To End Government Intolerance Of Islam In Ethiopia
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How To End Government Intolerance Of Islam In Ethiopia
File Photo: Ethiopian Muslims protest against government interference in religious matters at Ethiopia's Anwar Grand Mosque
How To End Government Intolerance Of Islam In Ethiopia
Opinion
By Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam
Previously Published in eurasiareview.com
The current Ethiopian constitution provides for freedom of religion and requires the separation of state and religion. However the Muslim community in Ethiopia has been, for more than a year now, holding protests at mosques around the country against what is perceived as government interference in religious affairs. The protesters are demanding that the current members of the Islamic Affairs Supreme Council (Majlis) be replaced by elected representatives and that elections for Majlis representatives be held in mosques rather than in the Kebeles. Some members of the Muslim community accuse the Ethiopian Government of controlling the Majlis and sponsoring the propagation of Al-Ahbash, a little known sect of Islam. The Ethiopian Government, on the other hand, accuses the protesters of being led by extremists who want to establish an Islamic state in place of the current secular multination federation.
The Ethiopian Government has responded against some protests in 2012 with deadly force, most recently in Assassa in April and Gerba in October, resulting in the death of at least seven protesters, a large number of injuries, and the imprisonment of a number of protesters on terrorism charges.
The protests were triggered by the suspension of the Awoliyah Muslim Mission School and the dismissal of 50 Arabic teachers via a letter issued by the Majlis. The Awoliyah Muslim Mission School, has been a member since 1993 of the Islamic charitable agency known as International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), and has been linked to the Saudi Arabia controlled World Muslim League. Ethiopian authorities consider Awoliyah to be a breeding ground for a new generation of radical Muslims, which they refer to as “Salafi-Jihadists” or “Wahabi-Salafists”. However, the Muslim protesters have consistently adhered to nonviolent demonstrations, leaving the Ethiopian Government with little to no evidence of behavior or action that could be described as terrorism. It is clear to date that the Ethiopian Government is manufacturing a security problem where none actually exists.
A careful consideration of the matter reveals that what’s happening in Ethiopia today is a reflection of what has been taking place in the West. Concerns about terrorism have degenerated into an irrational suspicion of Muslims, which will continue unabated until Ethiopia and its Western partners reflect more critically on their own perceptions.
It is reasonable to argue that Ethiopia’s leaders are experiencing a growing fear of Islamic terrorism given the fact that it is combating the Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Shabab in Somalia and the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) in the Somali region of Ethiopia. This is buttressed by a universal consensus among analysts that Somalia and Sudan are exporters of both political Islam and Islamic terrorism. Given that Ethiopia is widely considered as a bulwark against Al Qaeda-linked terrorists in the Horn of Africa, Somalia and, across the Gulf of Aden, in Yeman, one could argue that Ethiopia is not suffering from siege mentality, but rather that it is suffering from rational fear.
There is some evidence that the Ethiopian Muslim community has been radicalized, although not in the sense that it has a political agenda, but in the sense that it has attained a higher degree of religious consciousness and has become more aware of its particularistic identity. In light of “Arab Spring” events that took place in North Africa and the Middle East, toppling repressive governments, it can be argued that the Ethiopian authorities are haunted by the fear of an ‘Ethiopian Spring’, which has not only contributed to the current crackdown on the media and the political opposition, but also against the Muslim community. Ethiopia has increasingly become intolerant of Islam.
There is little evidence to support the Ethiopian Government’s claim that its own Muslim community poses a legitimate threat to national and regional security. It only seems to be driven by a shrewd strategic calculus. Since Ethiopia is a critical partner in the West’s war on terror, the government thinks it helps to foment fear of the rise of radical Islam in Ethiopia that would lead to an improbable takeover of power by political Islam. The current Ethiopian Government seeks to keep Western support and aid flowing into the country through characterizing the Muslim community as linked to Islamic radicals and terrorist and thus a threat to national security.
The fear being cultivated by the Ethiopian Government without basis in evidence has lead to the dubious actions it has engaged in. It would be irrational for a country that has had a history of Islamic terrorism to dismiss the fear of Islamic terrorism. When it comes to Ethiopia, the fear is irrational in light of its recent past and current events. My point is that rational fear can be a guide to sensible public policy. However, it is simply absurd to believe that all Muslims in Ethiopia are fiends and terrorists in disguise. The Ethiopian Government is using irrational fear to justify intolerance of Islam, and all of this because of bad public policy.
To the extent that secularism is a constitutionally enshrined principle of governance, the interference is unacceptable. Any sponsorship by the government of a religious sect over others or any attempt of privileging one religion over another is illegitimate, be it Al-Ahbash or Wahabi. But this is not to divest the government of its legitimate authority to neutralize security threats as they arise. Recognizing the threshold requires not only good public policy and laws, but also responsible enforcement. If the Ethiopian Government supports a religious group such as Al-Ahbash, it must leave the task of propagating it to the faith-based nongovernmental organizations, rather than the Ministry of Federal Affairs. The primary problem is that the Ethiopian Government has already legislated civil society out of existence with its charities legislation, so that the legitimate activities of religious groups are constrained.
The threat claimed by the Ethiopian Government, which as yet is not clear and present, does not emanate from radicalization, but from the embrace of political Islam and its concomitant militancy. The threat emanating from radicalization in my view does not call for direct government intervention. It would have been better addressed by civil society organizations. Unfortunately, in Ethiopia today there is barely any vibrant civil society, including religion-based and inter-faith NGOs working in the area of peace and reconciliation as they were legislated out of existence by the government itself.
My prognosis is that the protests will surely grow so much so that it overwhelms the government’s ability to handle the situation. I don’t expect the peaceful Muslim protesters to resort to violent means in the near future. My concern is that the Ethiopian government will eventually resort to more force and repression than is warranted under the circumstances. While it is impossible to predict the consequences, one thing is certain – hatred begets hatred. Some thought the protests would simply go away with the Majlis elections. Now we know that a significant proportion of the Muslim community boycotted the polls that took place on 7 October 2012, although the Government claimed the elections were concluded successfully.
Another reason why the Ethiopian Government’s actions are misguided is because Islam has been historically a decentralized religious institution in Ethiopia. With the formal establishment of the Majlis by the Ethiopian Government in 1976, it has enjoyed an official governmental status, with its chairman considered by the government as “representative of the entire Muslim community,” and is accorded the same courtesies as the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, the Bishop of the Catholic Church, and the Head of the Protestant Churches in public ceremonies. Historically, it has always been the responsibility of local mosques to appoint clerics, which makes the Ethiopian Government’s effort to control each and every mosque in the country through the Majlis untenable. It simply doesn’t work that way.
If the Ethiopian Government wants to help resolve this emerging conflict, it should refrain from interference. It should also make a goodwill gesture not only towards meeting the demands of Muslim protesters, but also in promoting a respectful and sustained dialogue among Muslims belonging to different Islamic sects, instead of promoting one sect of Islam to the exclusion of others. A positive first step would be to release the imprisoned elected leaders of the Muslim community and conduct the election of the members of the Majlis at the mosques rather than at the kebeles. Moreover, it must stop sponsoring Ahbashism at the expense of other sects of Islam as long as they respect the constitution and other laws of the land.
Last but not least, the Ethiopian Government should refrain from unnecessary provocations, which have been abundant in government publications and statements by authorities. After all, the Ethiopian Government owes Ethiopian Muslims all due respect and treatment, if not tolerance. For me, tolerance is not enough. The problem with applying the concept of tolerance to the case of Ethiopian Muslims is that it neglects the rich history of Islam in Ethiopia. It ignores the fact that Ethiopia’s Muslims were early historical converts in the same way as Ethiopia’s Christians.
However, through repressive interference the Ethiopian Government will only be sowing the seeds of a radicalized political Islam that it seeks to keep at bay. The ongoing interference will do more harm than good.
70 comments
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
The Awoliya mission school was the same as the Madrassas in Afganistan, pakistan and other muslim countries well known breeding islamic fanatic extrimists and terrorists. Ethiopian govt was well aware of these problems to close that known breeding ground of terrorists.
Alemayehu Fantaw, the above article writer is a hate monger, dellusional fanatic ginbot7 member who has nothing to do with Ethiopia. He's rather an enemy of the people of Ethiopia, who will do anything to distablize and destroy Ethiopia. For him this islamic movment is yet another hope to fulfil his destruction dream and satanic mission of whatever it takes to discredit our govt.
Alemayehu Fantaw, the above article writer is a hate monger, dellusional fanatic ginbot7 member who has nothing to do with Ethiopia. He's rather an enemy of the people of Ethiopia, who will do anything to distablize and destroy Ethiopia. For him this islamic movment is yet another hope to fulfil his destruction dream and satanic mission of whatever it takes to discredit our govt.
11/11/12 @ 00:53
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
http://aigaforum.com/articles/America-on-the-Freedom-Abuses-of-Religion-in-Ethiopia1.pdf
Look what the arrogant wayanes are doing by reading the above post.
By far Mr writer you have a fair view of the dangers of Wayanes. I wish you sent strong message to them.
Other than that let me say also that in Ethiopia Islam has become so diverse that my aunt no more eats in my other relatives house. The characterization of Muslims to different sects I think is a grave mistake especially when we don't know the consequences.
Wayane uses the tactic "If you want to kill the fish dry the pond". Wayanes have little brain so they think like a lizard they have no protective mechanism. They did the same think when they planned the gibe dam with little knowledge on its environmental impact.
http://www.abugidainfo.com/amharic/index.php/10192
Look what the arrogant wayanes are doing by reading the above post.
By far Mr writer you have a fair view of the dangers of Wayanes. I wish you sent strong message to them.
Other than that let me say also that in Ethiopia Islam has become so diverse that my aunt no more eats in my other relatives house. The characterization of Muslims to different sects I think is a grave mistake especially when we don't know the consequences.
Wayane uses the tactic "If you want to kill the fish dry the pond". Wayanes have little brain so they think like a lizard they have no protective mechanism. They did the same think when they planned the gibe dam with little knowledge on its environmental impact.
http://www.abugidainfo.com/amharic/index.php/10192
11/11/12 @ 01:14
Comment from: usfu [Visitor]
There is no prove whether gov't is irrationally or rationally intefering into Muslim society or their religion. Even there is no evidence that the gov't impeded religious freedom or tried to get attention from West.
There is no organization necessary to mediate between Muslim and gov't. It is a function of justice system.
How to resolve the ongoing protests?
First, gov't has to release those who were detained arbitrary without any precondition. This will develop trust between gov't and all citizen. For example, Junedin's wife.
Second, rule of law must implemented on these who clearly engaged on radicalism irrespective of who they are, provided that this can be proved beyond doubt.
Third, the election was done in Kebele. If they still disagree among themselves, they have to pay for security services so that government can give them a protection services. In this case, Muslim can still discuss among themselves for reelection or take it what was already elected in Kebele.
Fourth, Gov't must be not prejudice for/against any religion activities or no religious at all.
Gov't can let protesters to express their ideas. If there will be any break of rule/law, in transparent ways, gov't has a mandate to assure rule of law. Then justice must be rendered.
last point, Ethiopian need to economically develop. Poor need to feed and led their worldly live. Gov't must function without a biased. External political parties or members must stop a conflict inciting activities. Otherwise people are to suffer at the expense of gov't, political parties, and terrorism which none of them helps to bring economic growth rather it shows ignorance and wildness!
There is no organization necessary to mediate between Muslim and gov't. It is a function of justice system.
How to resolve the ongoing protests?
First, gov't has to release those who were detained arbitrary without any precondition. This will develop trust between gov't and all citizen. For example, Junedin's wife.
Second, rule of law must implemented on these who clearly engaged on radicalism irrespective of who they are, provided that this can be proved beyond doubt.
Third, the election was done in Kebele. If they still disagree among themselves, they have to pay for security services so that government can give them a protection services. In this case, Muslim can still discuss among themselves for reelection or take it what was already elected in Kebele.
Fourth, Gov't must be not prejudice for/against any religion activities or no religious at all.
Gov't can let protesters to express their ideas. If there will be any break of rule/law, in transparent ways, gov't has a mandate to assure rule of law. Then justice must be rendered.
last point, Ethiopian need to economically develop. Poor need to feed and led their worldly live. Gov't must function without a biased. External political parties or members must stop a conflict inciting activities. Otherwise people are to suffer at the expense of gov't, political parties, and terrorism which none of them helps to bring economic growth rather it shows ignorance and wildness!
11/11/12 @ 02:02
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Adgi ,what the hell are you talking about .Why don't you talk about who the hell brought Pakis ,Saudis ,even Iranians preachers in the country .It's too late to cry days and nights "Whabi ,Whabi..",by the way you know the origin of your "BIENFAITEUR" ,the Sheraton Sheik for whom you are prostituing yourself for his Shakes...LOL !!!!
By puting TPLF cadres on top of the Awalia
counsil ,Agazi bandits wanna to interfere in religious affairs as they had done by the past on the Tewado Orthodox Church by placing the then Woyane Pop .They are themselveses the Authors of the crisis .
11/11/12 @ 02:19
Comment from: Nuroo [Visitor]
Poor Ethiopia, still trying to figure out who will be (Christians or Islams)religion leaders.Send your kids to Madrasas and churches that what we get. send your kid to school( i know we didn't try this one before)!!!
11/11/12 @ 02:31
Comment from: chefo [Visitor]
ethiopian enemy like grane ahmed and other salafist moslims they will happy if they see this kind of view from genbot 7 oppostions.
The true face of this barbaric moslims and demand is not freedom of religion. They have a hi8ding agenda to spread extermisem ,terorisem in the peacefull true muslim population. They have got daily million of dollars from ethiopian enemies for this satanic purpose so they contniue destablizing and terorizing our country. we must destroy them from the land of ethiopia very soon!!!1
The true face of this barbaric moslims and demand is not freedom of religion. They have a hi8ding agenda to spread extermisem ,terorisem in the peacefull true muslim population. They have got daily million of dollars from ethiopian enemies for this satanic purpose so they contniue destablizing and terorizing our country. we must destroy them from the land of ethiopia very soon!!!1
11/11/12 @ 03:04
Comment from: Teodros [Visitor]
Afghanistan, Pakistan and other Muslim countries well known breeding Islamic fanatic extremists and terrorists. Ethiopian govt was well aware of these problems to close that known breeding ground of terrorists thanks 2 Ethiopian government and people of Ethiopia God bless Ethiopia...
11/11/12 @ 03:12
Comment from: MIMI [Visitor]
THIS STORY REPEATS ITSELF EVERY DECADE.
WHAT EVERYONE FORGETS IS ETHIOPIA'S OWN IMAMS WERE THE ONES WHO WANT SAUDI WAHHABI-SHARIA $$$ OUT OF ETHIOPIA...SAME GOES FOR FOREIGN EVANGELICALS $$$.
WHAT EVERYONE FORGETS IS ETHIOPIA'S OWN IMAMS WERE THE ONES WHO WANT SAUDI WAHHABI-SHARIA $$$ OUT OF ETHIOPIA...SAME GOES FOR FOREIGN EVANGELICALS $$$.
11/11/12 @ 03:16
Comment from: Kerkero [Visitor]
Ethiopia is not Afganistan or pakistan.There is no place for ayatolah mullah shit.The gvt must act with more power.Wake up Agazian.
Teddy the big mouth shabian-dog.I blame your mother who decided to keep you to term instead of aborting you. wicked and degraded hater.
Teddy the big mouth shabian-dog.I blame your mother who decided to keep you to term instead of aborting you. wicked and degraded hater.
11/11/12 @ 04:34
Comment from: Tamrat Tamrat [Visitor]
There is no free gift tplf. Like a primitive midival king controlling all the countries activity in 21 years leads us to now, the present. Just to have aid money, yes thank you for all has consequences. Was it news to tplf! No! Why journalists labeled like terrorists?
When one ethnic based government abuses its power in 21 years, it creates radicals like mushrooms.
Now is time for like Gragn Ahmed to dance while tplf is singing their dead pm empty words.
When one ethnic based government abuses its power in 21 years, it creates radicals like mushrooms.
Now is time for like Gragn Ahmed to dance while tplf is singing their dead pm empty words.
11/11/12 @ 04:45
Comment from: Evangelise [Visitor]
Ethiopia has to allow every kind of Christian evangelists in the country to counter those Arab evangelists. Our Church is too poor to evangelise the coutry. Invite millions of conservative American and European evangelists. I preffer them than any sect of islam. Muslims have declared jihad on us. It will stop only if Ethiopia would renounce building of a dam on the Nile.
Saudi Arabia and Gulf states will never abonden their plans to evangelise Ethiopia by any means necessary. That is why Ethiopian Christians need help from Protestants and Chatolics alike. The old religious divide is nonesense, the biggest danger now are muslims not another Christian sect.
Saudi Arabia and Gulf states will never abonden their plans to evangelise Ethiopia by any means necessary. That is why Ethiopian Christians need help from Protestants and Chatolics alike. The old religious divide is nonesense, the biggest danger now are muslims not another Christian sect.
11/11/12 @ 04:48
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Teodros
awoliya has not been closed, it has been funtioning since hilesilasie regime, rest assured that it will never be closed
awoliya has not been closed, it has been funtioning since hilesilasie regime, rest assured that it will never be closed
11/11/12 @ 05:29
Comment from: coming soon [Visitor]
This is not the work of Ethiopian gov't. it is the work of the almighty. Some of the comments written be the Wayaneh are sickining. The are full of hatred. This guy the writer is very rational if you understand what rationallity is. Look what is going on in the West. those for whom you lick their jackass. their biggest worry is the coming of the Mahdi and it is soon. We are not enemies with all christians. we know our enemies are those who follow the zionist agenda of suppressing the truth. the ethiopian gov't is playing with fire. they won't to fight the truth. they should look what happened to their masters in Iraq and afghanistan. the money you getting from the zionist will not save you from the Army of God. only those good ethiopian christians will be save. time is nearing. Egypt is ready to eat you alive with your coward behaviour. few chicken legged somalis kicked your ass and made you cry. all you guys know is hatrat. that is the disease known for the wayaneh and the ethiopianist habasha.
11/11/12 @ 05:52
Comment from: nenewe [Visitor]
Ato Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam,
I certainly don't agree with all the policies of our giv't.But, I beg to differ with your assertions that there is little evidence to backup gov't's claim of radicalisation of Ethiopian muslims. Ther is indeed strong evidence of it although the gov't unwittingly played a role in it in the first place.Despite claims to the contrary, our leaders are far from being visionaries & and their disastrous self-serving policies & laws have begun to haunt them.
some segments of the muslim community are so radiclaised they even go further to deny their Ethiopian identity, which they mistakenly associate with Christianity. The gov't interferes in every aspect of life, religion included. The diference is that Muslims have inherent belief that the non muslim world is out to undermine them. We all agree that muslims are loathe to any form of reform or modernisation.
The "Arab spring" started & culminated in overthrowing repressive regimes demanding freedom & democracy not against gov't interference in their religious affairs.
The gov't in my view should keep a close wactch on the community. If they have their way they would turn the country into a bastion of Islamic extremeists of every variety.
I certainly don't agree with all the policies of our giv't.But, I beg to differ with your assertions that there is little evidence to backup gov't's claim of radicalisation of Ethiopian muslims. Ther is indeed strong evidence of it although the gov't unwittingly played a role in it in the first place.Despite claims to the contrary, our leaders are far from being visionaries & and their disastrous self-serving policies & laws have begun to haunt them.
some segments of the muslim community are so radiclaised they even go further to deny their Ethiopian identity, which they mistakenly associate with Christianity. The gov't interferes in every aspect of life, religion included. The diference is that Muslims have inherent belief that the non muslim world is out to undermine them. We all agree that muslims are loathe to any form of reform or modernisation.
The "Arab spring" started & culminated in overthrowing repressive regimes demanding freedom & democracy not against gov't interference in their religious affairs.
The gov't in my view should keep a close wactch on the community. If they have their way they would turn the country into a bastion of Islamic extremeists of every variety.
11/11/12 @ 06:38
Comment from: Lemma [Visitor]
The writer gives us his own observation about the current Muslim protests in the country. Instead of refuting his idea some people like the person who write his comment on Addis Zemen try to label the writer as Ginbot 7. We can go nowhere by trying to hide the truth or the facts. I think it is better to argue on the facts rather than trying to label the writer. Based on the constitution of the country everyone has the right to practice his own religion without the interference of the government. However what we are observing in the country today is the contrary. The government is interfering in the religious belief of the people by the name of protecting the country from terrorism and extremism. I want to advice the government officials to revise what they are doing on the Muslim communities and remove their hands from the Ethiopian Muslims and answer the basic questions asked by the believers. Otherwise the consequence will not be good for the peace and stability of the country.
11/11/12 @ 06:54
Comment from: lil [Visitor]
addis zemen, you have no clue about what you are saying. I know people who graduated from Awelya and they are more moderate than you are are. People like you are making the noise and creating a problem. This is not politics , this is religion once the problem start it will be hard to contain. So stop you shitty mouth and enjoy your welfare money in US and let the whole thing calm down in Addis. Woyane always create internal problems to divert peoples attention from the big picture, this is one of them but they are crossing the line this time
11/11/12 @ 07:49
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
The writer knows English he also knows only if he criticize the government his article will be appreciated but, the article is detached from the reality on the ground. There is a real Islamic terrorist threat going on in the country and the government is not even doing enough to deal with them.
11/11/12 @ 08:27
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
I think its worth asking the following question before drawing a conclusion on this matter
what triggered the unrest? ( who made the first move?)
What are the Muslims demands?
prior to the launching of the Government sponsored project of indoctrination with Ahbashism, Ethiopian Muslims were getting on with their lives: carried out NO sitins, or any other form of expresing contempts. this is not to say they had no complaints. essentially Majlis was run by criminal gangs, some were even alleged to be non-Muslims
At this point, No Muslim was arrested under the counter terrorism act, Government never declared the presence of Islamic group in Ethiopia pausing threat to the state, and never mentioned the so-called pro-Islamic State movements
Deploying the Majlis folks (who are unknown to Muslims, never mind be a true representative) The Gov intensified forced baptization of Muslims with Ahbash ideology. Mosque imams were replaced with ahbashes. Federal minster vowed to outlaw publishing Islamic books or Cds that are not approved by Majlis (Ahbashes. Finally Majlis decided to close a section of Awoliya College, suck its Imam (who has been serving in the Mosque for decade) and send students to their home, even those who are only few months away from graduation. The students plead help from the Muslim community. This is what prompted Muslims to re claim back their institution. The Muslims established a committee comprising of 17 members to address their contempt to the Government. The Government was negotiating with the committee until two months before he put them behind bars charged them with terrorism
The Government appointed new majlis cadres by conducting fake election in kebele, despite the Muslims demand to hold the election in Mosque.
Killed dozens of Muslim civilians in Oromia and South wollo
detained thousands of Muslims and the vast majority are not even charged with any crime
The Million dollar question
Do these Islamic groups advocating for an Islamic state and for violence against other faith groups evolved just a year ago, if not why hide it from public, why members of the group werent arrested and prosecuted? why the propaganda coincided with the beginning of the Muslims protest? If indeed the committee members were engaged in such activities why werent detained then? or did each commit 500 page long crime within 3 months?
The above are hints for non-Muslims, so that You dont be lured by the false propaganda being dished out by the Government
The tension is not between Muslims and Christians as government and its supporter wish to be, rather its, Muslim Vs Gov
The Muslims have no ambition of establishing a sheria state, or destabilizing the country! Their demands are simple: elect their religious leaders freely, stop coerced indoctrination,
http://www. ethiotube.net/video/23003/MUST-WATCH-EID-ALFETIR-1433-REVIEW-WITH-AMAZING-EVENT
what triggered the unrest? ( who made the first move?)
What are the Muslims demands?
prior to the launching of the Government sponsored project of indoctrination with Ahbashism, Ethiopian Muslims were getting on with their lives: carried out NO sitins, or any other form of expresing contempts. this is not to say they had no complaints. essentially Majlis was run by criminal gangs, some were even alleged to be non-Muslims
At this point, No Muslim was arrested under the counter terrorism act, Government never declared the presence of Islamic group in Ethiopia pausing threat to the state, and never mentioned the so-called pro-Islamic State movements
Deploying the Majlis folks (who are unknown to Muslims, never mind be a true representative) The Gov intensified forced baptization of Muslims with Ahbash ideology. Mosque imams were replaced with ahbashes. Federal minster vowed to outlaw publishing Islamic books or Cds that are not approved by Majlis (Ahbashes. Finally Majlis decided to close a section of Awoliya College, suck its Imam (who has been serving in the Mosque for decade) and send students to their home, even those who are only few months away from graduation. The students plead help from the Muslim community. This is what prompted Muslims to re claim back their institution. The Muslims established a committee comprising of 17 members to address their contempt to the Government. The Government was negotiating with the committee until two months before he put them behind bars charged them with terrorism
The Government appointed new majlis cadres by conducting fake election in kebele, despite the Muslims demand to hold the election in Mosque.
Killed dozens of Muslim civilians in Oromia and South wollo
detained thousands of Muslims and the vast majority are not even charged with any crime
The Million dollar question
Do these Islamic groups advocating for an Islamic state and for violence against other faith groups evolved just a year ago, if not why hide it from public, why members of the group werent arrested and prosecuted? why the propaganda coincided with the beginning of the Muslims protest? If indeed the committee members were engaged in such activities why werent detained then? or did each commit 500 page long crime within 3 months?
The above are hints for non-Muslims, so that You dont be lured by the false propaganda being dished out by the Government
The tension is not between Muslims and Christians as government and its supporter wish to be, rather its, Muslim Vs Gov
The Muslims have no ambition of establishing a sheria state, or destabilizing the country! Their demands are simple: elect their religious leaders freely, stop coerced indoctrination,
http://www. ethiotube.net/video/23003/MUST-WATCH-EID-ALFETIR-1433-REVIEW-WITH-AMAZING-EVENT
11/11/12 @ 08:37
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Don't forget Alqaida is alive and kicking in the whole Arabian penninsula especially in Yemen our neighbor. it is very clear they would be happy to build a safety nest in Ethiopia, where they dream could be like killing two birds with one stone. First its strategical benefit and secondly they will get rid of a strong ally against terrorism.
So Alqaida is working in full force by sending all kinds of extrimist jihadists to Ethiopia, who continue to stage this fake muslim interfrance protest every weekend.
The govt never interfered in their internal issue. As a matter of fact no other religion has been given such a freedom the muslims enjoy these days. All the ellections of their officials is held in their own system, fair and squere. But the extrimist who are being financed by Alqaida are angry and brought a different agenda of interferance, making it a political issue.
Our govt especially our security forces are on top of these case, and they know who is behind it.
The peaceful majority muslims never complained or thought the govt is interfering in their religion, rather they think the govt is protecting them from the trouble makers, the extrimists and terrorist suciders.
When a religion cause is being hi-jacked for a political issue, we cannnot stand in the corner and let this islamist extrimists and alike enemys of Ethiopia disrupt and destroy all the great things we've achieved.
Ethiopia and Ethiopians have come this far, a great deal of sacrifice have been paid to get here. and we will do what ever it takes to protect what is ours.
So Alqaida is working in full force by sending all kinds of extrimist jihadists to Ethiopia, who continue to stage this fake muslim interfrance protest every weekend.
The govt never interfered in their internal issue. As a matter of fact no other religion has been given such a freedom the muslims enjoy these days. All the ellections of their officials is held in their own system, fair and squere. But the extrimist who are being financed by Alqaida are angry and brought a different agenda of interferance, making it a political issue.
Our govt especially our security forces are on top of these case, and they know who is behind it.
The peaceful majority muslims never complained or thought the govt is interfering in their religion, rather they think the govt is protecting them from the trouble makers, the extrimists and terrorist suciders.
When a religion cause is being hi-jacked for a political issue, we cannnot stand in the corner and let this islamist extrimists and alike enemys of Ethiopia disrupt and destroy all the great things we've achieved.
Ethiopia and Ethiopians have come this far, a great deal of sacrifice have been paid to get here. and we will do what ever it takes to protect what is ours.
11/11/12 @ 09:07
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Addis Zemen(you are addis zemen for real)
You said 'Alqaida is working in full force by sending all kinds of extrimist jihadists to Ethiopia, who continue to stage this fake muslim interfrance protest every weekend.
The govt never interfered in their internal issue. As a matter of fact no other religion has been given such a freedom the muslims enjoy these days'
Well, why should the reader trust you and NOT the author of this article or USCIRF, who have dismissed you argument that the muslims protesters have hidden agenda and backed their accusation that the Government is meddling in their religious affair
Why should one buy the propaganda of your Government, who has a very poor track record of telling the truth?
You also said 'The peaceful majority muslims never complained or thought the govt is interfering in their religion, rather they think the govt is protecting them from the trouble makers, the extrimists and terrorist suciders.'
lol
This can be easily disproved ( I know you are not sincere in your remarks but just for record) I will invite you to watch the following video footage. let me know if you still think the crowd in this video represents the minority of Muslims of Addis
http://www.ethiotube.net/video/23003/
MUST-WATCH-EID-ALFETIR-1433-REVIEW-WITH-AMAZING-EVENT
You said 'Alqaida is working in full force by sending all kinds of extrimist jihadists to Ethiopia, who continue to stage this fake muslim interfrance protest every weekend.
The govt never interfered in their internal issue. As a matter of fact no other religion has been given such a freedom the muslims enjoy these days'
Well, why should the reader trust you and NOT the author of this article or USCIRF, who have dismissed you argument that the muslims protesters have hidden agenda and backed their accusation that the Government is meddling in their religious affair
Why should one buy the propaganda of your Government, who has a very poor track record of telling the truth?
You also said 'The peaceful majority muslims never complained or thought the govt is interfering in their religion, rather they think the govt is protecting them from the trouble makers, the extrimists and terrorist suciders.'
lol
This can be easily disproved ( I know you are not sincere in your remarks but just for record) I will invite you to watch the following video footage. let me know if you still think the crowd in this video represents the minority of Muslims of Addis
http://www.ethiotube.net/video/23003/
MUST-WATCH-EID-ALFETIR-1433-REVIEW-WITH-AMAZING-EVENT
11/11/12 @ 10:04
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
First, let us not be blind people. do you believe in the constitution? Then you have to respect the Law.
Some of you Wayanes are emotional. When things work only in your favor you tell us to respect the Law and how good it is but when things get tough you never want to point to the Law because it will expose your hypcrisy. Now, what I will say is this:
The Leaders that are put in jail were not terrorists. They preached under the circumstances of the Law. You can not jump on someone who got long beard and label him for being so and so. It is his right to have 10 meter long beard. Okay?
Second, there is no way that the Leaders chose or self appointed themselves. They were not leaders they were arbitrary committee for the people. The people signed their names and put their true addresses so if the government wants to check who they are they can easily find them. This again put the government on the defensive. There is no single evidence that related the current movement and their committee with the burning of church in some parts of the country. On the other hand, Mesjids were burnt in Hawariya gurage zone, in Addis Ababa in Shiro meda and Fereensay Legasion and Lideta German Mesjid. None of the christian extremists were charged with anything. We have not seen them on Ethiopian TV neither were they detained. A lot of pentecostal not copts were supposed to have burnt the Quraan, played with it in the toilet or disfigured it or tore it down. This level of crossing red line was never dealt with the government. This could be the evil plan of Pentes who support Wayane (not all pentes). It is about time Pentes denounce such evil acs that is not the example of their Jesus.
I for one believe all the crimes against churchs and Mesjids were plotts of the Wayane regime or their supporters for political reason and not for religious agenda per se.
There is no proof that Al Amoudin supported or sponsored any so called extreme groups. If so the government is the extreme or terrorist because Al amoudin is one of the government official. To this day, however, Al Amoudin built Sheraton which sells Alcohol and is also involved in building churchs, helping christian friends and artists and generally drinks alcohol in the face of the public eye. I doubt if you think this is a good extremist. In fact, Al Amouidin helped more Christians than Muslims.
I want to see how Al Amoudin is linked. If he is then why not bring Al amouidin along? We knoe Junedin was not involved in all of this but to terrorize his family who had nothing to do with the present movement and the extremist case is totally a very savage act of Meles.
If Awolia needs to close why do you have Redwan Husien who was director of Awolia as high official of Wayane. Many Awolia graduattes work for Wayane.
Please don't mix what is happening AT PRESENT as Muslim protest with whatever is happening in the name of extremism.
If you want to Change the system of Ethiopia to be democratic then this is the time to show solidarity with any kind of free movement.
The Muslims will not stop protesting for fear of being labeled as terrorists. This is not a terrorist movemnt. It is one of the most intelligent and peaceful movement the modern era has seen despite their leaders being detained in that country. We will not stop here. Muslimss of Ethiopia have many fundamental issues that never been touched including the right to recognition from government as the orthodox church, the right to free preaching and the complete freedom of Islam in Axum and Many cities of Amhara including Lalibela to build a Mesjid. That is when we call Ethiopia is for all and we will be happy to live. Otherwise, there will be no churchs in many Muslim dominant regions of the South including Jimma, Harar and Jijiga and Assayita.
Some of you Wayanes are emotional. When things work only in your favor you tell us to respect the Law and how good it is but when things get tough you never want to point to the Law because it will expose your hypcrisy. Now, what I will say is this:
The Leaders that are put in jail were not terrorists. They preached under the circumstances of the Law. You can not jump on someone who got long beard and label him for being so and so. It is his right to have 10 meter long beard. Okay?
Second, there is no way that the Leaders chose or self appointed themselves. They were not leaders they were arbitrary committee for the people. The people signed their names and put their true addresses so if the government wants to check who they are they can easily find them. This again put the government on the defensive. There is no single evidence that related the current movement and their committee with the burning of church in some parts of the country. On the other hand, Mesjids were burnt in Hawariya gurage zone, in Addis Ababa in Shiro meda and Fereensay Legasion and Lideta German Mesjid. None of the christian extremists were charged with anything. We have not seen them on Ethiopian TV neither were they detained. A lot of pentecostal not copts were supposed to have burnt the Quraan, played with it in the toilet or disfigured it or tore it down. This level of crossing red line was never dealt with the government. This could be the evil plan of Pentes who support Wayane (not all pentes). It is about time Pentes denounce such evil acs that is not the example of their Jesus.
I for one believe all the crimes against churchs and Mesjids were plotts of the Wayane regime or their supporters for political reason and not for religious agenda per se.
There is no proof that Al Amoudin supported or sponsored any so called extreme groups. If so the government is the extreme or terrorist because Al amoudin is one of the government official. To this day, however, Al Amoudin built Sheraton which sells Alcohol and is also involved in building churchs, helping christian friends and artists and generally drinks alcohol in the face of the public eye. I doubt if you think this is a good extremist. In fact, Al Amouidin helped more Christians than Muslims.
I want to see how Al Amoudin is linked. If he is then why not bring Al amouidin along? We knoe Junedin was not involved in all of this but to terrorize his family who had nothing to do with the present movement and the extremist case is totally a very savage act of Meles.
If Awolia needs to close why do you have Redwan Husien who was director of Awolia as high official of Wayane. Many Awolia graduattes work for Wayane.
Please don't mix what is happening AT PRESENT as Muslim protest with whatever is happening in the name of extremism.
If you want to Change the system of Ethiopia to be democratic then this is the time to show solidarity with any kind of free movement.
The Muslims will not stop protesting for fear of being labeled as terrorists. This is not a terrorist movemnt. It is one of the most intelligent and peaceful movement the modern era has seen despite their leaders being detained in that country. We will not stop here. Muslimss of Ethiopia have many fundamental issues that never been touched including the right to recognition from government as the orthodox church, the right to free preaching and the complete freedom of Islam in Axum and Many cities of Amhara including Lalibela to build a Mesjid. That is when we call Ethiopia is for all and we will be happy to live. Otherwise, there will be no churchs in many Muslim dominant regions of the South including Jimma, Harar and Jijiga and Assayita.
11/11/12 @ 10:06
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Gragn,
I agree with your suggestion that if the Government genuinely believe that Saudi citizens pose threat to the nation by bank rolling Muslim terrorists then they should break or loosen diplomatic ties with Saudi and expel its citizens from Ethiopia, a good way to start is by expelling Al-Amoudi, we will find out soon who is going to miss Arabs the Most: Muslims or EPRDF
AddisZemen
you claimed that the protest in Addis is orchestrated or funded by Al qaida. Even the government didnt claim that, nor ETV. you just make up stories to depict false image. I think you are seriously undermining your readers' intelligence.
Ethiopian Muslims's demands are very precise and legitimate, no hidden agenda, no connection with foreign groups, promote no hostility towards other faith groups.
They will continue their struggle till their demands are met ( TPLFs and some anti-Muslim elements accept it or not). Any crackdown of peaceful protesters will only make the Muslim even more united and determined to achieve its goal, and it may well cost the ruling party the power that it cherishes
I agree with your suggestion that if the Government genuinely believe that Saudi citizens pose threat to the nation by bank rolling Muslim terrorists then they should break or loosen diplomatic ties with Saudi and expel its citizens from Ethiopia, a good way to start is by expelling Al-Amoudi, we will find out soon who is going to miss Arabs the Most: Muslims or EPRDF
AddisZemen
you claimed that the protest in Addis is orchestrated or funded by Al qaida. Even the government didnt claim that, nor ETV. you just make up stories to depict false image. I think you are seriously undermining your readers' intelligence.
Ethiopian Muslims's demands are very precise and legitimate, no hidden agenda, no connection with foreign groups, promote no hostility towards other faith groups.
They will continue their struggle till their demands are met ( TPLFs and some anti-Muslim elements accept it or not). Any crackdown of peaceful protesters will only make the Muslim even more united and determined to achieve its goal, and it may well cost the ruling party the power that it cherishes
11/11/12 @ 11:02
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Mohammedamin,...
The tip of the iceberg was discoverd when we arrseted those two middle eastern guys wandering arround Anwar mosque, who were sent to co-ordinate the protest and other terrorist activities. Don't tell us, there are no extrimists financed directly by Alqaida. God knows how much money they've already deliverd, other than the money which was funneld through the Saudi embassy.
The tip of the iceberg was discoverd when we arrseted those two middle eastern guys wandering arround Anwar mosque, who were sent to co-ordinate the protest and other terrorist activities. Don't tell us, there are no extrimists financed directly by Alqaida. God knows how much money they've already deliverd, other than the money which was funneld through the Saudi embassy.
11/11/12 @ 11:36
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Addis Zemen said
'The tip of the iceberg was discoverd when we arrseted those two middle eastern guys wandering arround Anwar mosque, who were sent to co-ordinate the protest and other terrorist activities'
lol this is even funnier
why did you deport in folks who were discovered conspiring to commit an act of terror? why they werent arrested and prosecuted? do you think people will be fooled by this bluff?
Dont undermine your readers' intelligence fella!!
Even cadres were not happy selling this scum
check this out for verification
http://www.ethiotube.net/view_video.php?viewkey=280eae868d5bd1a9e441
'The tip of the iceberg was discoverd when we arrseted those two middle eastern guys wandering arround Anwar mosque, who were sent to co-ordinate the protest and other terrorist activities'
lol this is even funnier
why did you deport in folks who were discovered conspiring to commit an act of terror? why they werent arrested and prosecuted? do you think people will be fooled by this bluff?
Dont undermine your readers' intelligence fella!!
Even cadres were not happy selling this scum
check this out for verification
http://www.ethiotube.net/view_video.php?viewkey=280eae868d5bd1a9e441
11/11/12 @ 11:59
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Those arrests from Ymen were al Qada? The funniest lunatic Addis Zembaf is here. Is the intelligence of Wayane better than America?
Both USA and a professor from Florida of Norwegain who studied Islam in Ethiopia both indicated that there is no al Qada. Don't mix now al Qaeda with terrorism. Your boss said that Eskinder Nega is terrorist. is he related to Al qada? We did not know that. I said before the people protesting on the streets do not need external help. They are demanding that Law of free religion be respected. You simply can not deny the lack of true governance when it comes to the people of Ethiopian Muslims. You can not impose a Mejlis which is run by christians and expect the Muslims to believe you.
Again, you failed to answer the question posed by MohamedAmin. If Saudi sponsored the event and Al Amoudin is Saudi why you guys work with him? Is Al Amoudin extremist or not? Do the people from Saudi have terrorist agenda all of them or not?
If so what makes you think the present Muslim movement is a terrorist? do you believe that the questions raised deserve some attention? Is it not illegal to hold election in a political place, the Kebele, and does this not compromise the fact that religion and plitics are mixed up by holding the election in Kebele instead of Mesjid?
Is it true that noen of the new Mejlis people are respected or recognized or even known by the large Muslim community? Is it true that Wayane sneaks a Sudane asylee christian Ethioians to high Mejlis posts because they know Arabic? How far did Wayane have to go to destroy
the Muslim community?
Both USA and a professor from Florida of Norwegain who studied Islam in Ethiopia both indicated that there is no al Qada. Don't mix now al Qaeda with terrorism. Your boss said that Eskinder Nega is terrorist. is he related to Al qada? We did not know that. I said before the people protesting on the streets do not need external help. They are demanding that Law of free religion be respected. You simply can not deny the lack of true governance when it comes to the people of Ethiopian Muslims. You can not impose a Mejlis which is run by christians and expect the Muslims to believe you.
Again, you failed to answer the question posed by MohamedAmin. If Saudi sponsored the event and Al Amoudin is Saudi why you guys work with him? Is Al Amoudin extremist or not? Do the people from Saudi have terrorist agenda all of them or not?
If so what makes you think the present Muslim movement is a terrorist? do you believe that the questions raised deserve some attention? Is it not illegal to hold election in a political place, the Kebele, and does this not compromise the fact that religion and plitics are mixed up by holding the election in Kebele instead of Mesjid?
Is it true that noen of the new Mejlis people are respected or recognized or even known by the large Muslim community? Is it true that Wayane sneaks a Sudane asylee christian Ethioians to high Mejlis posts because they know Arabic? How far did Wayane have to go to destroy
the Muslim community?
11/11/12 @ 12:06
Comment from: tigist [Visitor]
I did not read the Article , but I read only the first comment by Addis Zemen. Thank you, Addis Zemen. Ethiopia continuing to be a peaceful country.
11/11/12 @ 12:49
Comment from: Ethiopiawinet [Visitor]
Addis Zemen
All these namings, labelings, insulting, dehumanizing, demanizing, attacking, killings, torturing started after the Ethiopian majority rejected mejlis cadres. Prior to this those majority Ethiopians (you know whom I am referring though you cut their number in half) were the most peaceful Ethiopians.
All of the sudden your government turned its back on its backers. What a shameful act which will make you pay it dearly in the future.
All these namings, labelings, insulting, dehumanizing, demanizing, attacking, killings, torturing started after the Ethiopian majority rejected mejlis cadres. Prior to this those majority Ethiopians (you know whom I am referring though you cut their number in half) were the most peaceful Ethiopians.
All of the sudden your government turned its back on its backers. What a shameful act which will make you pay it dearly in the future.
11/11/12 @ 13:56
Comment from: Addis [Visitor]
Let us do what we do best:
Poverty leads to ignorance, and ignorance to intolerance
we are almost there
Let the voltures feast !
Poverty leads to ignorance, and ignorance to intolerance
we are almost there
Let the voltures feast !
11/11/12 @ 13:58
Comment from: Tamrat Tamrat [Visitor]
Grang Ahmed is ready to replace Agazit Woman constitution with his Sheria law.
We have seen how agazit woman laws has been served in the last 21 years. How many killed, disappeared, tortured, exiled, set in prison, etc.
Before we finished contemplating how it would be Ethiopia with out tplf iron fist, Gragn is ready to cut hands, throats, and stones defensless women.
But our goal is very simple and straight for ward. Ethiopia with equality reagrdelss who sit in power.
We have seen how agazit woman laws has been served in the last 21 years. How many killed, disappeared, tortured, exiled, set in prison, etc.
Before we finished contemplating how it would be Ethiopia with out tplf iron fist, Gragn is ready to cut hands, throats, and stones defensless women.
But our goal is very simple and straight for ward. Ethiopia with equality reagrdelss who sit in power.
11/11/12 @ 14:33
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Dear Tamrat
The Muslims are not running the sheria court, which was established in hilesilasie regime, over 90 percent of the employees being non-Muslim, never mind establishing the Islamic state of Ethiopia. this allegation is no more credible than Collin Powel's report about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction
Establishing a sheria state never cross Muslims' mind. its a fairy tale brother.
The Muslims are not running the sheria court, which was established in hilesilasie regime, over 90 percent of the employees being non-Muslim, never mind establishing the Islamic state of Ethiopia. this allegation is no more credible than Collin Powel's report about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction
Establishing a sheria state never cross Muslims' mind. its a fairy tale brother.
11/11/12 @ 15:04
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Tamrat Tamrat,
I think you joined the discussion on this website a bit late. I have never said impose Sharia on Ethiopian people. never ever. If you are challenged by what I write in English I will be happy to write you in Amharic which is my mother tongue.
እትዮፕያ ዉስጥ ሙስሊሙ ከፈለገ ይችላል:: ይህ ግን የሚሆነው በ ምርጫ ነው::
ሽሪአ ማለት እጅ መክረት ብቻ አይደለም:: ምን አለበት ስው ከስረቀ ቢቆረጥ? እንደዛ ቢሆን በየ አመቱ 10 ቢሊዮን ዶላር እትዮፕያ ባላጣች ነበር:: እንደኔ እስልምና ብዙ አስተዋጻኦ አለው:: ይሄ እምነቴ ነው:: ላንተ ካልተስማምህ በምርጫ ማስተጋባት ትችላለህ::
ኮፕቶች በአገራችን ላይ የሰሩት ግን ከ አሁን በሁዋላ አይደገምም:: አክሱም እና ላሊበላ መስጊድ የማይሰራባት አገር ግን ወደፊት አትኖሪም ወይም ትጠፋለች::
I think you joined the discussion on this website a bit late. I have never said impose Sharia on Ethiopian people. never ever. If you are challenged by what I write in English I will be happy to write you in Amharic which is my mother tongue.
እትዮፕያ ዉስጥ ሙስሊሙ ከፈለገ ይችላል:: ይህ ግን የሚሆነው በ ምርጫ ነው::
ሽሪአ ማለት እጅ መክረት ብቻ አይደለም:: ምን አለበት ስው ከስረቀ ቢቆረጥ? እንደዛ ቢሆን በየ አመቱ 10 ቢሊዮን ዶላር እትዮፕያ ባላጣች ነበር:: እንደኔ እስልምና ብዙ አስተዋጻኦ አለው:: ይሄ እምነቴ ነው:: ላንተ ካልተስማምህ በምርጫ ማስተጋባት ትችላለህ::
ኮፕቶች በአገራችን ላይ የሰሩት ግን ከ አሁን በሁዋላ አይደገምም:: አክሱም እና ላሊበላ መስጊድ የማይሰራባት አገር ግን ወደፊት አትኖሪም ወይም ትጠፋለች::
11/11/12 @ 15:13
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
Why should there be another law, Sharia, running parallel and equal to the country's secular constitution and law?
Why is it necessary at all to contemplate about giving a role to 7th century Bedouin Arab customary law?
There could be be a very minor role for Sharia law in the sphere of family related matters. This is provided all involved persons agree with it and that the Sharia practice does not contradict basic rights of the secular constitution such as practising discrimination against women and infringing on other types of Human Rights as declared by the UN.
In general, step-by-step creeping Sharia should be discouraged. If Muslims living in Ethiopia want to practice full-blown Sharia they can relocate to the Islamic paradise of Saudi Arabia and request citizenship there.
Why is it necessary at all to contemplate about giving a role to 7th century Bedouin Arab customary law?
There could be be a very minor role for Sharia law in the sphere of family related matters. This is provided all involved persons agree with it and that the Sharia practice does not contradict basic rights of the secular constitution such as practising discrimination against women and infringing on other types of Human Rights as declared by the UN.
In general, step-by-step creeping Sharia should be discouraged. If Muslims living in Ethiopia want to practice full-blown Sharia they can relocate to the Islamic paradise of Saudi Arabia and request citizenship there.
11/11/12 @ 17:45
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
How to end government tolerance, not government intolerance, of Islam in Ethiopia
The Ethiopian government has been very tolerant toward the Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims not just for one year but for over 1400 years. Throughout their settlements in the Christian land of Ethiopia, the Ethiopian Muslims have betrayed Ethiopia in several occasions by supporting foreign Islamist governments and by attacking the Ethiopian Christian government: First, they supported the Islamist Gragn Ahmed (1528-1560) by inviting the Turkish army, and they fought the Ethiopian Christians by burning their Churches, their holy documents, and by destroying their revered monasteries. Second, they betrayed Atse Yohannes IV (1889) by supporting the Mahdists at Metema. Third, they betrayed Emperor Haile Selassie by attacking the Christian soldiers. The attackers were mainly the Ray, Azebo, and the Dessie Muslims at Maychew (1936), and Mussolini entered Addis Ababa and His Majesty went into exile. Fourth, Muslims in the southern part of Ethiopia burned 13 Christian Churches in Asendabo and made hundreds of Christian families homeless (2011), and six, the Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims have continued protesting against the legitimate interference of the Ethiopian government to arrest the criminals. However, the author of the article attests: “Ethiopia has increasingly become intolerant of Islam,” which I totally disagree.
Gelawdewos, Atse Yohannes, Menelik II, Haile Selassie, Meles Zenawi had been very tolerant, and so has Haile Mariam Desalegn toward the Ethiopian Muslims; therefore, the Ethiopian government should end its tolerant attitude today and bring to an end the one-year-long Islamist protests by shutting or burning down the Anwar Mosque and by prohibiting any an authorized Islamist terrorists’ protest in the near future.
The main purpose of Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam’s article is to expose the Christian government of Ethiopia to the world as a criminal and as a violator of human rights. When Woldemariam advocates that the government has committed crimes at Assassa and at Gerba, it seems he does not understand that the first duty of the government of Ethiopia is to crack down any religious groups that it suspects will endanger the safety of its citizens. The author claims such a crackdown is the result of “rational fear” rather than a practical one. I would argue the government should not stay too long until a horrible crime is perpetrated by the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims against its innocent citizens. I would always advise the Ethiopian government to take a “preemptive” action before any crime is carried out by the Islamist terrorists.
Another unsubstantiated claim by the author is that he believes the Ethiopian Muslim protesters are peaceful men and women. He asseverates: “…the Muslim protesters have consistently adhered to nonviolent demonstrations, leaving the Ethiopian Government with little to no evidence of behavior or action that could be described as terrorism.” He is totally wrong! Few months ago, some armed terrorist Muslims went to the police station in Dessie and fought with the prison police guard there, tried to release the imprisoned terrorist Muslims, and their violent skirmishes with the police caused the deaths of four or more Islamist terrorists, and some police were injured. Therefore, the author cannot say with certainty: “It is clear to date that the Ethiopian Government is manufacturing a security problem where one actually exists.”
The government of Ethiopia has no intention to waste its scarce resources on fabricating a terrorist threat that does not exist in the country. The reality is that terrorism exists in Ethiopia in different forms: for example, carrying thousands of money in a bag from the Saudi Embassy and distributing such illegal money to the Islamist protesters is an act of terrorism. Writing a bias article like this one is another act of terrorism; in fact the worst one since millions of Muslim people will read it and will incite the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims to arm themselves and to fight the Ethiopian Christian government. The Quran that bounds all Muslims of the world together says: “Incite the believers to fight with you” (Quran 4:84).
I really don’t recommend any person to write any article on Islam or terrorism without first that person read and understood the Quran that authorizes terrorism on Christians, Jews, and on other non-Muslims. I doubt Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw Woldemariam has read the Quran, if he has, he could have been very sympathetic with the Ethiopian government that is struggling to protect the lives of its citizens.
To some degree, the author believes the radicalization of some Ethiopian Muslim communities but doesn’t buy the existence of terrorism in Ethiopia. Well, there are certain stages to commit terrorism anywhere in the world:
1. One has to be a Muslim
2. One has to go to a Muslim school.
3. One has to learn in a Muslim school how to maim the body of an infidel.
4. One has to recite certain satanic verses of the Quran.
5. One has to believe that Muhammad the prophet is the last messenger of Allah.
6. One has to learn Muhammad’s war strategies, deceptions, lies, and subjugation of women.
7. One has to study very carefully the art of warfare (Jihad).
8. One has to convince himself if he kills someone, that he will directly go to paradise and meet the 72 virgin girls.
9. One has to associate himself with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhoods or with any terrorist organizations.
10. One has to hate the Jews, the Christians, and all the non-Muslims from his heart of hearts.
When he has achieved all the ten stages, he is now extremely radicalized and ready for his mission to throw a grenade on any crowded Ethiopian places, such as the market place, the Churches, the Christian Schools but never on Mosques or on Muslim schools.
Therefore, the Ethiopian government should not allow any Ethiopian Muslim to accomplish all the ten stages that lead to the destructions of human lives. Yes, radical Islam will bring serious consequences on the Ethiopian Government by overthrowing the existing Christian government and replacing it by a Muslim rule with its Sharia law. Fore example, the Christian government of Lebanon has been replaced by a Muslim government, and such horrible thing will happen to Ethiopia unless the Ethiopian Christian government stifles the growth of Islamist radicalism in the Christian land of Ethiopia. There are people in Ethiopia who believes Ethiopia is not a Christian country anymore: it is rather, they say, a Muslim country. Why do they say this? They say this to frustrate and to humiliate the Ethiopian Christians or to take over the Ethiopian government.
The author of the article frustrates the Ethiopian government by predicting: “My prognosis is that the protests will surely grow so much so that it overwhelms the government’s ability to handle the situation.” I argue if the Ethiopian government shows to the Muslim protesters its intolerance instead of its tolerance, there will be no Muslim protest in the Christian land of Ethiopia. I have no idea why the Ethiopian government has been so mute for a long time instead of waking up, jailing the criminal Jihadist, and expelling the foreign agents.
I don’t think the author has any valid point when he blindly states and ridicules the Ethiopian Christian government: “Another reason why the Ethiopian Government’s actions are misguided is because Islam has been historically a decentralized religious institution in Ethiopia.” That was then, but today the young Muslim generation, using modern technology, can achieve its terrorist mission. Hence, centralized or decentralized, Muslims have the Quran that makes political Islam very centralized religion, very close to one’s home – the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood or the Boko Haram of Nigeria.
The author’s final solution to the problem of Muslim protesters is that the Ethiopian government should not interfere with the Muslims’ religious affairs and should meet their demands. I would, however, say that the Ethiopian Christian government should not meet the demands of the Ethiopian Jihadist terrorist. If it does, then the next day, the Ethiopian Muslims will demand the Ethiopian government should allow Muslims to run Ethiopia, not Christians and the Ethiopian Constitution must be replaced by the Islamic Sharia law.
In short, I would say the author does not know the nature of Muslims and their political Islam: political Islam insists all Muslims to come together and dominate the entire world, and that is what political Islam is doing right now in Europe, in Asia, in America, and in Africa. In the old days, political Islam took the following Christian countries: Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Tunisia, and now Lebanon. Ethiopia will be next if the Ethiopian Christian government continues to tolerate the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims’ illegal protests.
The Ethiopian government has been very tolerant toward the Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims not just for one year but for over 1400 years. Throughout their settlements in the Christian land of Ethiopia, the Ethiopian Muslims have betrayed Ethiopia in several occasions by supporting foreign Islamist governments and by attacking the Ethiopian Christian government: First, they supported the Islamist Gragn Ahmed (1528-1560) by inviting the Turkish army, and they fought the Ethiopian Christians by burning their Churches, their holy documents, and by destroying their revered monasteries. Second, they betrayed Atse Yohannes IV (1889) by supporting the Mahdists at Metema. Third, they betrayed Emperor Haile Selassie by attacking the Christian soldiers. The attackers were mainly the Ray, Azebo, and the Dessie Muslims at Maychew (1936), and Mussolini entered Addis Ababa and His Majesty went into exile. Fourth, Muslims in the southern part of Ethiopia burned 13 Christian Churches in Asendabo and made hundreds of Christian families homeless (2011), and six, the Jihadist Ethiopian Muslims have continued protesting against the legitimate interference of the Ethiopian government to arrest the criminals. However, the author of the article attests: “Ethiopia has increasingly become intolerant of Islam,” which I totally disagree.
Gelawdewos, Atse Yohannes, Menelik II, Haile Selassie, Meles Zenawi had been very tolerant, and so has Haile Mariam Desalegn toward the Ethiopian Muslims; therefore, the Ethiopian government should end its tolerant attitude today and bring to an end the one-year-long Islamist protests by shutting or burning down the Anwar Mosque and by prohibiting any an authorized Islamist terrorists’ protest in the near future.
The main purpose of Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam’s article is to expose the Christian government of Ethiopia to the world as a criminal and as a violator of human rights. When Woldemariam advocates that the government has committed crimes at Assassa and at Gerba, it seems he does not understand that the first duty of the government of Ethiopia is to crack down any religious groups that it suspects will endanger the safety of its citizens. The author claims such a crackdown is the result of “rational fear” rather than a practical one. I would argue the government should not stay too long until a horrible crime is perpetrated by the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims against its innocent citizens. I would always advise the Ethiopian government to take a “preemptive” action before any crime is carried out by the Islamist terrorists.
Another unsubstantiated claim by the author is that he believes the Ethiopian Muslim protesters are peaceful men and women. He asseverates: “…the Muslim protesters have consistently adhered to nonviolent demonstrations, leaving the Ethiopian Government with little to no evidence of behavior or action that could be described as terrorism.” He is totally wrong! Few months ago, some armed terrorist Muslims went to the police station in Dessie and fought with the prison police guard there, tried to release the imprisoned terrorist Muslims, and their violent skirmishes with the police caused the deaths of four or more Islamist terrorists, and some police were injured. Therefore, the author cannot say with certainty: “It is clear to date that the Ethiopian Government is manufacturing a security problem where one actually exists.”
The government of Ethiopia has no intention to waste its scarce resources on fabricating a terrorist threat that does not exist in the country. The reality is that terrorism exists in Ethiopia in different forms: for example, carrying thousands of money in a bag from the Saudi Embassy and distributing such illegal money to the Islamist protesters is an act of terrorism. Writing a bias article like this one is another act of terrorism; in fact the worst one since millions of Muslim people will read it and will incite the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims to arm themselves and to fight the Ethiopian Christian government. The Quran that bounds all Muslims of the world together says: “Incite the believers to fight with you” (Quran 4:84).
I really don’t recommend any person to write any article on Islam or terrorism without first that person read and understood the Quran that authorizes terrorism on Christians, Jews, and on other non-Muslims. I doubt Mr. Alemayehu Fentaw Woldemariam has read the Quran, if he has, he could have been very sympathetic with the Ethiopian government that is struggling to protect the lives of its citizens.
To some degree, the author believes the radicalization of some Ethiopian Muslim communities but doesn’t buy the existence of terrorism in Ethiopia. Well, there are certain stages to commit terrorism anywhere in the world:
1. One has to be a Muslim
2. One has to go to a Muslim school.
3. One has to learn in a Muslim school how to maim the body of an infidel.
4. One has to recite certain satanic verses of the Quran.
5. One has to believe that Muhammad the prophet is the last messenger of Allah.
6. One has to learn Muhammad’s war strategies, deceptions, lies, and subjugation of women.
7. One has to study very carefully the art of warfare (Jihad).
8. One has to convince himself if he kills someone, that he will directly go to paradise and meet the 72 virgin girls.
9. One has to associate himself with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhoods or with any terrorist organizations.
10. One has to hate the Jews, the Christians, and all the non-Muslims from his heart of hearts.
When he has achieved all the ten stages, he is now extremely radicalized and ready for his mission to throw a grenade on any crowded Ethiopian places, such as the market place, the Churches, the Christian Schools but never on Mosques or on Muslim schools.
Therefore, the Ethiopian government should not allow any Ethiopian Muslim to accomplish all the ten stages that lead to the destructions of human lives. Yes, radical Islam will bring serious consequences on the Ethiopian Government by overthrowing the existing Christian government and replacing it by a Muslim rule with its Sharia law. Fore example, the Christian government of Lebanon has been replaced by a Muslim government, and such horrible thing will happen to Ethiopia unless the Ethiopian Christian government stifles the growth of Islamist radicalism in the Christian land of Ethiopia. There are people in Ethiopia who believes Ethiopia is not a Christian country anymore: it is rather, they say, a Muslim country. Why do they say this? They say this to frustrate and to humiliate the Ethiopian Christians or to take over the Ethiopian government.
The author of the article frustrates the Ethiopian government by predicting: “My prognosis is that the protests will surely grow so much so that it overwhelms the government’s ability to handle the situation.” I argue if the Ethiopian government shows to the Muslim protesters its intolerance instead of its tolerance, there will be no Muslim protest in the Christian land of Ethiopia. I have no idea why the Ethiopian government has been so mute for a long time instead of waking up, jailing the criminal Jihadist, and expelling the foreign agents.
I don’t think the author has any valid point when he blindly states and ridicules the Ethiopian Christian government: “Another reason why the Ethiopian Government’s actions are misguided is because Islam has been historically a decentralized religious institution in Ethiopia.” That was then, but today the young Muslim generation, using modern technology, can achieve its terrorist mission. Hence, centralized or decentralized, Muslims have the Quran that makes political Islam very centralized religion, very close to one’s home – the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood or the Boko Haram of Nigeria.
The author’s final solution to the problem of Muslim protesters is that the Ethiopian government should not interfere with the Muslims’ religious affairs and should meet their demands. I would, however, say that the Ethiopian Christian government should not meet the demands of the Ethiopian Jihadist terrorist. If it does, then the next day, the Ethiopian Muslims will demand the Ethiopian government should allow Muslims to run Ethiopia, not Christians and the Ethiopian Constitution must be replaced by the Islamic Sharia law.
In short, I would say the author does not know the nature of Muslims and their political Islam: political Islam insists all Muslims to come together and dominate the entire world, and that is what political Islam is doing right now in Europe, in Asia, in America, and in Africa. In the old days, political Islam took the following Christian countries: Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Tunisia, and now Lebanon. Ethiopia will be next if the Ethiopian Christian government continues to tolerate the Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims’ illegal protests.
11/11/12 @ 18:52
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
It is funny Muslims of Ethiopia have no right to protest let alone build Sharia. If they want Sharia they have to topple Wayane. Wayane can only be toppled if there is a massive protest by Muslims nonstop. Or if they are armed. But we know the armed struggle in controlled by Issayas a copt and there is no way possible for Islam to take over Ethiopia. Sudan Beshir is weak and he is barely unable to help himself. Where would the Muslims get base to begin their fight? Impossible. No wonder Wayane simply enjoys power unlimited for the next 100 years. Unless Wayane really acts nice and allows opposition there simply be no hope for democracy in Ethiopia for the next 100 years. I wish this was not the case. But one thing Muslims of Ethiopia have is the power to mobilize their people to come and ask for more representation in power structure. This will only be possible if we really are very well organized. But organization is poor and every organization opened for Muslims is always closed. Muslims are the only segment of Ethiopia where they receive the least amount of aid from foreign countries. I wish Ethiopian Muslims were like Nigerians who can fight for their rights sometimes using violent methods but we are very coward. Oromos now work for Essays. Somalis know work for Essays. Those Somali government now work for Meles. All copts now control Somali be it rebels or the government. So, my question is clear there is no way Muslims can find the energy to topple the government because they lack very cohesive unity and structure. I have been trying to do that for the last couple of years. One thing is clear Muslims are angry as ever but they don't know what to do. They do not know how to move forward. They don't have good soldiers. They don't have good soldiers. They don't have good supporters. They don't have bases that are not controlled by copts. With this in mind what do Muslims want and what can they do? The only way forward is to make the people of Ethiopian Muslims become more conservative and very dedicated to their religion. Be active in politics. Be active in Military. Be active in government offices. We can topple this government not only from outside but also from inside. The Muslims regions are still the control of copts. The Oromos are controlled by copts or pentes. The somalis by Tigre copts. We are hand cuffed. What can we do to get out? I admire those who led the people to march for freedom in Addis Ababa. The only hope we have is to use peaceful means to achieve our end until the time comes things go into our favor from the military and political aspect. Then we will achieve our goals. But peaceful means needs to be tempered with violent means. Unless you scare somebody will they be able to listen to you?
Assta Getu.
Freedom of speech does not guarantee you to write those violent statements. Are you sure you are protected by the Law? I am not sure please check out with FBI I am afraid they will chain you if they find out who you are.
I will not pass your name though as an Ethiopian.
Assta Getu.
Freedom of speech does not guarantee you to write those violent statements. Are you sure you are protected by the Law? I am not sure please check out with FBI I am afraid they will chain you if they find out who you are.
I will not pass your name though as an Ethiopian.
11/11/12 @ 19:19
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Here is some news from the Islamic paradise of Saudi Arabia:
Sexual harassment surfaces in Saudi Arabia
I choose Saudi for my daughters. What is wrong with that as long as she likes it too. There are many who likes the Saudi style. Plus this news you posted is all over the net and the average reader knows Saudi Arabia and the Saudi Law is clear in that it is a strict form of Sharia application as practice during the early days of Islam. This is not secrete. I have advice for you Marcus try to judge your audience and whether or not you can get their attention. You are treating most for your audience as ignorant on matters that are even so public for everybody to see. I fee that you wasting your invaluable time.
Sexual harassment surfaces in Saudi Arabia
I choose Saudi for my daughters. What is wrong with that as long as she likes it too. There are many who likes the Saudi style. Plus this news you posted is all over the net and the average reader knows Saudi Arabia and the Saudi Law is clear in that it is a strict form of Sharia application as practice during the early days of Islam. This is not secrete. I have advice for you Marcus try to judge your audience and whether or not you can get their attention. You are treating most for your audience as ignorant on matters that are even so public for everybody to see. I fee that you wasting your invaluable time.
11/11/12 @ 19:30
Comment from: Habib Mustefa [Visitor]
Enough is Enough I will tell you the hiding story of our weekly friday demonstration.
I leave in addis ababa lastweek I was in our Anwar mesgid for friday pray.There were about 15000- 20000 our muslim brother in our mesgid.We were all in deeply praying ceremony .Suddenly We heared some radical muslims shauting "allah weakeber" repetdly and they start disribute pamphelt for every muslim prayer.I get too one. in this pamphlet was written many hatred words about ethiopian christian , about amhara and tigre and the government of ethiopia i dont want mention it all.Between this pamphlet i get 500ET Birr I ask some they are telling me each muslim prayer get too 500 et birr from this radikal muslims every friday. For many our muslim brother every friday come a short term money without any hardwork.and organized us for massiv demonsration. I ask myself who is this people? from were come this huge money?Who is behind this demonsration?and then after few kilometer I bresk my participaion on this demonstation. I advice for all true muslim brothers this radical muslims are the agent of ethiopian enemies dont follow them,
shekuran!!!!!
I leave in addis ababa lastweek I was in our Anwar mesgid for friday pray.There were about 15000- 20000 our muslim brother in our mesgid.We were all in deeply praying ceremony .Suddenly We heared some radical muslims shauting "allah weakeber" repetdly and they start disribute pamphelt for every muslim prayer.I get too one. in this pamphlet was written many hatred words about ethiopian christian , about amhara and tigre and the government of ethiopia i dont want mention it all.Between this pamphlet i get 500ET Birr I ask some they are telling me each muslim prayer get too 500 et birr from this radikal muslims every friday. For many our muslim brother every friday come a short term money without any hardwork.and organized us for massiv demonsration. I ask myself who is this people? from were come this huge money?Who is behind this demonsration?and then after few kilometer I bresk my participaion on this demonstation. I advice for all true muslim brothers this radical muslims are the agent of ethiopian enemies dont follow them,
shekuran!!!!!
11/11/12 @ 22:28
Comment from: 1000 wives [Visitor]
Habib Mustefa, you are coward. Stand up for your right.
11/11/12 @ 22:55
Comment from: john john [Visitor]
Ethiopia must protect its culture value and rule of law under constitution and there is no exception for foreign trained anti peace element under any circumstance. Ethiopia national interest comes first. Let's say no to foreign religion doctrine there is a good reason behind it why our ancestor reject to convert to Catholic 500 years ago? Because they didn't want or like outsider influence this is what apply to minor Islamist who want international attention in the name of religion.
Ethiopia must find lasting solution for this problem by teaching the public to practice their own believe with their own language.
Ethiopia must find lasting solution for this problem by teaching the public to practice their own believe with their own language.
11/11/12 @ 22:56
Comment from: 1000 wives [Visitor]
Habib Mustefa, you are coward. Stand up for your right. You are either wayane or what. How did you get access to nazret.com? It is not available except for Wayanes.
11/11/12 @ 22:58
Comment from: Habib Mustefa [Visitor]
1000 wives(Vistor)
I am know in usa for vacation. If you are my muslim brother I have told you the true story of friday demonstration. I am not weyane but i love and i belive strongly my religion but i hate some radicals they are haterd and not true muslims. Brother I hope you understand me.
shekuran9f!!!
I am know in usa for vacation. If you are my muslim brother I have told you the true story of friday demonstration. I am not weyane but i love and i belive strongly my religion but i hate some radicals they are haterd and not true muslims. Brother I hope you understand me.
shekuran9f!!!
11/11/12 @ 23:19
Comment from: Abdi [Visitor]
1000 wives,
You are the coward Arab akatari. Habib Mustefa has told the truth which everybody knows. I don't know why the government doesn't expell the embassies of those countries who are behind these demonstrations.
You are the coward Arab akatari. Habib Mustefa has told the truth which everybody knows. I don't know why the government doesn't expell the embassies of those countries who are behind these demonstrations.
11/12/12 @ 03:35
Comment from: BadBeza [Visitor]
What a superb article from this gentleman-Mr Alemayehu. Obviously such interference by Ethiopian govt in Muslims’ affairs is intolerable and it even beyond the threshold limit now. We- Ethiopian Muslims never been sundering until the Status quo ante.
11/12/12 @ 06:18
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Habib Mustefa
Did you put the 500 birr in your pocket, or rejected it? lool
What is deep praying ceremony? lool. a strange description
btw, demonstration didnt even take place last week in Anwar,
A fortnight ago there was a silent protest, no one shouted Allahu akber
Just a bit of advice for you, you dont need to say shukran to disguise as Muslim. shukran is an Arabic word not necessarily Islamic synonymous to thanks of English,. Using the word doesnt make you sound a genuine Muslim
poor effort by an amateur cadre
Did you put the 500 birr in your pocket, or rejected it? lool
What is deep praying ceremony? lool. a strange description
btw, demonstration didnt even take place last week in Anwar,
A fortnight ago there was a silent protest, no one shouted Allahu akber
Just a bit of advice for you, you dont need to say shukran to disguise as Muslim. shukran is an Arabic word not necessarily Islamic synonymous to thanks of English,. Using the word doesnt make you sound a genuine Muslim
poor effort by an amateur cadre
11/12/12 @ 07:44
Comment from: Heny [Visitor]
All Alemayohs are born cursed and idiot. Is this Alemayoh the replica of the other agecham, shaebyan sellout Almayoh who pops up at nazret every monday?
11/12/12 @ 07:52
Comment from: Heny [Visitor]
All Alemayohs are born cursed and idiot. Is this Alemayoh the replica of the other agecham, shaebyan sellout Almayoh who pops up at nazret every monday
11/12/12 @ 08:00
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
When ever we see any article with the word "radical islam" all alquida cadres come out like a fly over a dead body and they open their liar mouth bla bla bla, you bored me azzhole's!
11/12/12 @ 08:56
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Extraterrestrial (=Habib Mustefa??)
Why call me alqida?
Habib Mustefa claimed that he was in Addis a week ago, prayed in Anwar Mosque where he was offered 500 birr along a leaflet, which incite hatred against Tigrians and Amharas, by radicals (or alqaida lol)and was invited to participate in the protest.
But the truth is there was no protest last week, in fact the Grand Anwar Mosque was virtually vacant last week, because of boycotting Anwar for a week campaign
fortnight ago, there was a silent protest, no one shouted Allahuakber as he claimed
Three weeks ago, there wasnt even Juma prayer because it was Eid day. and every one prayed Eid prayer at the Stadium.
So which Anwar Mosque was he on about?
I only exposed the truth! if this is Alqaida identify with, I don't mind being labelled Alqaida
Why call me alqida?
Habib Mustefa claimed that he was in Addis a week ago, prayed in Anwar Mosque where he was offered 500 birr along a leaflet, which incite hatred against Tigrians and Amharas, by radicals (or alqaida lol)and was invited to participate in the protest.
But the truth is there was no protest last week, in fact the Grand Anwar Mosque was virtually vacant last week, because of boycotting Anwar for a week campaign
fortnight ago, there was a silent protest, no one shouted Allahuakber as he claimed
Three weeks ago, there wasnt even Juma prayer because it was Eid day. and every one prayed Eid prayer at the Stadium.
So which Anwar Mosque was he on about?
I only exposed the truth! if this is Alqaida identify with, I don't mind being labelled Alqaida
11/12/12 @ 10:00
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
Here is some news from an Islamic paradise:
Woman 'tortured her maid to death with scalding water because she was lazy'
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By Jill Reilly from thr Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 10:34, 12 November 2012 | UPDATED: 13:58, 12 November 2012
An employer tortured her maid to death in an attempt to force her to become better at housework, a court heard.
The Emirati woman abused the Ethiopian maid daily after she moved in during Ramadan, Abu Dhabi Criminal Court heard.
She poured boiling water over the maid and tied her up with electrical wire - she was found dead in her employer's bathroom, reported 7daysinDubai.
The employer told the court: 'I only beat her up. I just wanted her to do the housework properly. I didn’t mean to hurt or kill her.'
The accused woman's two children said they had witnessed the daily torture.
Her daughter told prosecutors: ' One day, during Ramadan, I found my mother beating up the maid. She poured boiling water on her body and threw pepper in her eyes.'
Defence: The employer told the court: 'I only beat her up. I just wanted her to do the housework properly. I didn’t mean to hurt or kill her'
She added: 'The woman could not resist the torture.'
The defendant was arrested after her son reported the maid’s death.
She admitted to prosecutors she whipped the maid with wire 10 days before her death because she was lazy.
She is accused of trying to hide evidence of the killing by getting her children to change the maid's clothes to hide the blood.
A forensic report revealed that the woman died from wounds she sustained during an assault.
A doctor told the court an examination of the woman revealed she had been tortured over time.
The case was adjourned to December 31 and the woman remains in custody.
Woman 'tortured her maid to death with scalding water because she was lazy'
=================================================================
By Jill Reilly from thr Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 10:34, 12 November 2012 | UPDATED: 13:58, 12 November 2012
An employer tortured her maid to death in an attempt to force her to become better at housework, a court heard.
The Emirati woman abused the Ethiopian maid daily after she moved in during Ramadan, Abu Dhabi Criminal Court heard.
She poured boiling water over the maid and tied her up with electrical wire - she was found dead in her employer's bathroom, reported 7daysinDubai.
The employer told the court: 'I only beat her up. I just wanted her to do the housework properly. I didn’t mean to hurt or kill her.'
The accused woman's two children said they had witnessed the daily torture.
Her daughter told prosecutors: ' One day, during Ramadan, I found my mother beating up the maid. She poured boiling water on her body and threw pepper in her eyes.'
Defence: The employer told the court: 'I only beat her up. I just wanted her to do the housework properly. I didn’t mean to hurt or kill her'
She added: 'The woman could not resist the torture.'
The defendant was arrested after her son reported the maid’s death.
She admitted to prosecutors she whipped the maid with wire 10 days before her death because she was lazy.
She is accused of trying to hide evidence of the killing by getting her children to change the maid's clothes to hide the blood.
A forensic report revealed that the woman died from wounds she sustained during an assault.
A doctor told the court an examination of the woman revealed she had been tortured over time.
The case was adjourned to December 31 and the woman remains in custody.
11/12/12 @ 10:06
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Marcus
The article talks about a court case in Emirates (U.A.E) not Saudi Arabia
But then even if it is related to Saudi, why post it here? how is this relevant to what being discussed here?
The article talks about a court case in Emirates (U.A.E) not Saudi Arabia
But then even if it is related to Saudi, why post it here? how is this relevant to what being discussed here?
11/12/12 @ 10:16
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
'MohammedAmin', relax. It is just another barbaric example of Arab Islamic barbarism.
11/12/12 @ 10:28
Comment from: Ethiopiawinet [Visitor]
Marcus
Your critical and analytical thinking is below that of infant. I am a Muslim but what has to do with me with events that taken place in Arab countries which consists of Arab Copts like you and far east countries.
Do I've to relate you with Serb genociders, Hitler, Mussoloni, Coptic Milosovic, Mexican narco mass murderes, Rawanda, Congo, with every seconds loss of human life's in those countries.
What the f#$%k you try to tell us idiot debtra. Are you paid agent who spread hates and war mongering.
I've not seen a single Ethiopian here who utter a truth statements or opinions. All trashes from bastard children.
If you want tell us we are not human beings and you are an angel then I see your comments. You are out of norm on this earth.
The Eritreans used to suffer like us and see where are they today! Time will ripe out one day though takes time not 30 years...
You choose to disintegrate the country with your infant mentality instead of dialogue toward love, unity and future.
Your critical and analytical thinking is below that of infant. I am a Muslim but what has to do with me with events that taken place in Arab countries which consists of Arab Copts like you and far east countries.
Do I've to relate you with Serb genociders, Hitler, Mussoloni, Coptic Milosovic, Mexican narco mass murderes, Rawanda, Congo, with every seconds loss of human life's in those countries.
What the f#$%k you try to tell us idiot debtra. Are you paid agent who spread hates and war mongering.
I've not seen a single Ethiopian here who utter a truth statements or opinions. All trashes from bastard children.
If you want tell us we are not human beings and you are an angel then I see your comments. You are out of norm on this earth.
The Eritreans used to suffer like us and see where are they today! Time will ripe out one day though takes time not 30 years...
You choose to disintegrate the country with your infant mentality instead of dialogue toward love, unity and future.
11/12/12 @ 10:29
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
'MohammedAmin', relax. It is just another graphic example of Arab Islamic barbarism.
11/12/12 @ 10:30
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Marcus
Im relaxed, its who sound very frustrated
And if you cant explain the relevance of the article, at lease be civil and admit your mistakes
Im relaxed, its who sound very frustrated
And if you cant explain the relevance of the article, at lease be civil and admit your mistakes
11/12/12 @ 10:32
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
Hate is built in within Islam. Aren't you supposed to torture and kill masses of people to qualify for entry into paradise?
11/12/12 @ 10:32
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
'MohammedAmin',
Can't you figure out the relevance of the article? Is it so difficult for you?
It is an Ethiopian maid who was the victim!
Can't you figure out the relevance of the article? Is it so difficult for you?
It is an Ethiopian maid who was the victim!
11/12/12 @ 10:41
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Marcus
I dont think this forum is suitable to hold a theological debate.
I will stick by the principle and say the following
Whether our doctrine promotes torture or not, We have been existing in Ethiopia since 14 hundred years ago. We are going no where! We have equal right as other faith groups. we will struggle until we retrieve our full rights!
I dont think this forum is suitable to hold a theological debate.
I will stick by the principle and say the following
Whether our doctrine promotes torture or not, We have been existing in Ethiopia since 14 hundred years ago. We are going no where! We have equal right as other faith groups. we will struggle until we retrieve our full rights!
11/12/12 @ 10:48
Comment from: 1000 wives King Solomon [Visitor]
What a tragedy Habib Mustefa. Are you Ah Bash? Slowly Wayanes are converting you into christianity. Tell me how Ah Bash is different from Christianity.
11/12/12 @ 12:03
Comment from: Ras Thomas & Associates of Ethiopian Patriots [Visitor]
Hello Alamanyehu !!!!
Are you somebody else? Or Alamanyehu
we knew for decades. We know you are.
Ethiopian people know who you are and
your only principle and faith; which
to support and exagrate anything anti-Ethiopian.
Shamlessly, you are talking here about that current goverment of the
Ethiopia is not intalorance for Islamists. OK.
Anybody in Ethiopia young and old can remember, when the Malilikh, Hailu Salasia and at last Mingistu
was there, there was no Muslim in Ethiopia any voices or organizations.
We heard Muslims speaking after only
and the caming of 1991 revulation.
Now, first time in history Muslims
in Ethiopian has their organization
and freedom to worship, but unfortunely some reactionery evil elements such as you, who are connected to Al-qaida and enemy of Ethiopia are pentrating peaceful Ethiopians, in order to create chaos
like Somalia. The problem is between
Muslims and they had to solve and take out the viruses in hiding in their community.
Now, here in world, we are seeing
Almanyehu supporting Islamists, who
may thirst for his blood, because for they eyes he is Amhara infidel
which the name they call all Christians. Although Alamanyehu is no
more Christian by converting the characters of his Ethiopian heritage
but again for the Al-qaida supporters
he still a infidel, no matter if he
supports them or not, if he is still
Christian like his parents or changed
American refugee eating pork in subway restaurants in America. But,
he ignoraces did not raise any awarness to his real enemies that he supports because of only their are
contributing the Somalization of Ethiopia.
Mr. Alamanyehu: Did you care the safety of your aunt in AddisAbaba or
Gondar who is easy prey for Islamists
and Jihadist? properly not. Because
are drank and insane of hate and the
hungar for power you have for power !
Those illusions made you simple mad
angary man who will do everything that unthinkable for somebody of your age to do at all. Here we have for you ultimate advice we can help you to return your sanity:
Go to nearst Ethiopian church in place you live in USA and repent to
your God by worship him who gave you
life. He is marciful to forgive you.
And we your people will forgive you
of all you did against your homeland.
We hope you will be fine.
God bless Ethiopia.
Are you somebody else? Or Alamanyehu
we knew for decades. We know you are.
Ethiopian people know who you are and
your only principle and faith; which
to support and exagrate anything anti-Ethiopian.
Shamlessly, you are talking here about that current goverment of the
Ethiopia is not intalorance for Islamists. OK.
Anybody in Ethiopia young and old can remember, when the Malilikh, Hailu Salasia and at last Mingistu
was there, there was no Muslim in Ethiopia any voices or organizations.
We heard Muslims speaking after only
and the caming of 1991 revulation.
Now, first time in history Muslims
in Ethiopian has their organization
and freedom to worship, but unfortunely some reactionery evil elements such as you, who are connected to Al-qaida and enemy of Ethiopia are pentrating peaceful Ethiopians, in order to create chaos
like Somalia. The problem is between
Muslims and they had to solve and take out the viruses in hiding in their community.
Now, here in world, we are seeing
Almanyehu supporting Islamists, who
may thirst for his blood, because for they eyes he is Amhara infidel
which the name they call all Christians. Although Alamanyehu is no
more Christian by converting the characters of his Ethiopian heritage
but again for the Al-qaida supporters
he still a infidel, no matter if he
supports them or not, if he is still
Christian like his parents or changed
American refugee eating pork in subway restaurants in America. But,
he ignoraces did not raise any awarness to his real enemies that he supports because of only their are
contributing the Somalization of Ethiopia.
Mr. Alamanyehu: Did you care the safety of your aunt in AddisAbaba or
Gondar who is easy prey for Islamists
and Jihadist? properly not. Because
are drank and insane of hate and the
hungar for power you have for power !
Those illusions made you simple mad
angary man who will do everything that unthinkable for somebody of your age to do at all. Here we have for you ultimate advice we can help you to return your sanity:
Go to nearst Ethiopian church in place you live in USA and repent to
your God by worship him who gave you
life. He is marciful to forgive you.
And we your people will forgive you
of all you did against your homeland.
We hope you will be fine.
God bless Ethiopia.
11/12/12 @ 12:26
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Ras Thomas & Associate of Ethiopia Patriots (visitor),
Where have you been all this time? You don’t actively participate on this web site as you used to. I hope you know what is going on in Ethiopia at this time: some Jihadist Muslims are trying to terrorize the few Ethiopian Christians by protesting almost every Friday afternoon at their Anwar Mosque. I am sure their intentions are to completely destroy Christianity in Ethiopia and replace it with their backward and cultish religion, Islam. I have been commenting on this web site, denouncing Islam and its Sharia law; however, Gragn Ahmed is accusing me that my comment was the main reason for the slaughter of the Assasa Muslims, and he wants me to stop commenting, but I refused to do so.
Any way, I am glad to see you back!
Where have you been all this time? You don’t actively participate on this web site as you used to. I hope you know what is going on in Ethiopia at this time: some Jihadist Muslims are trying to terrorize the few Ethiopian Christians by protesting almost every Friday afternoon at their Anwar Mosque. I am sure their intentions are to completely destroy Christianity in Ethiopia and replace it with their backward and cultish religion, Islam. I have been commenting on this web site, denouncing Islam and its Sharia law; however, Gragn Ahmed is accusing me that my comment was the main reason for the slaughter of the Assasa Muslims, and he wants me to stop commenting, but I refused to do so.
Any way, I am glad to see you back!
11/12/12 @ 13:17
Comment from: berta [Visitor]
the subject of the article shoud have been:
HOW TO END GOVERNMENT INTOLERANCE OF FREE, INDEPENDENT THINKING.
Islam or religion is not the problem here at all, the headech for the government here is free thinking people..
HOW TO END GOVERNMENT INTOLERANCE OF FREE, INDEPENDENT THINKING.
Islam or religion is not the problem here at all, the headech for the government here is free thinking people..
11/12/12 @ 14:14
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Thomas & Associates of Ethiopian Patriots
You said
'when the Malilikh, Hailu Salasia and at last Mingistu
was there, there was no Muslim in Ethiopia any voices or organizations'
No Muslim in Ethiopia during H/slasie or Derg regime???
or you mean, no Muslim organization?
In both cases, you are wrong
Muslim has been practising their faith since 14 hundred years ago
Majlis was established during derg regime, In fact Majlis was independent during regime and its chairman was very popular. since 1987 (EC) it has become a Government body, and is run by cadres, who lack not only basic Islamic knowledge but also human character. Eventually Gov decided to use hand it over to an alien sect called Ahbash. This is what renders the Muslim Community to do some thing about it.
There is no problem amongst Muslims. The only problem is GOVERNMENT'S HEAVE INVOLVEMENT IN MUSLIM'S INTERNAL AFFAIR. PERIOD
Radicals, jihadist, bla bla is a fairy tale, which does nothing Good for your mother in Addis or your Grandpa in Gonder
STOP distortion of the facts
Dont blame the author for telling what he feels is right, he might be a Christian but he is human too. beside, I dont think his God punish him for being fair. and its not only him, many independent bodies have also dismissed the Government's claim as a baseless and unfounded propaganda
You said
'when the Malilikh, Hailu Salasia and at last Mingistu
was there, there was no Muslim in Ethiopia any voices or organizations'
No Muslim in Ethiopia during H/slasie or Derg regime???
or you mean, no Muslim organization?
In both cases, you are wrong
Muslim has been practising their faith since 14 hundred years ago
Majlis was established during derg regime, In fact Majlis was independent during regime and its chairman was very popular. since 1987 (EC) it has become a Government body, and is run by cadres, who lack not only basic Islamic knowledge but also human character. Eventually Gov decided to use hand it over to an alien sect called Ahbash. This is what renders the Muslim Community to do some thing about it.
There is no problem amongst Muslims. The only problem is GOVERNMENT'S HEAVE INVOLVEMENT IN MUSLIM'S INTERNAL AFFAIR. PERIOD
Radicals, jihadist, bla bla is a fairy tale, which does nothing Good for your mother in Addis or your Grandpa in Gonder
STOP distortion of the facts
Dont blame the author for telling what he feels is right, he might be a Christian but he is human too. beside, I dont think his God punish him for being fair. and its not only him, many independent bodies have also dismissed the Government's claim as a baseless and unfounded propaganda
11/12/12 @ 15:52
Comment from: 1000 wives [Visitor]
kkkk MohamedAmin,
I love you man. This is what I was waiting for a long time to come. A courageous Muslim like you.
Ras Thomas is like Ras DomaRas.
He only believes in the old Haile or Menelik style of christian Island. He never wants we lived in that country.
The problem we Muslims have is not even with Government alone but with coptic extremists like RAsDoma Ras.
They simply glorify the past.
I love you man. This is what I was waiting for a long time to come. A courageous Muslim like you.
Ras Thomas is like Ras DomaRas.
He only believes in the old Haile or Menelik style of christian Island. He never wants we lived in that country.
The problem we Muslims have is not even with Government alone but with coptic extremists like RAsDoma Ras.
They simply glorify the past.
11/12/12 @ 16:50
Comment from: 1000 wives [Visitor]
kkkk MohamedAmin,
I love you man. This is what I was waiting for a long time to come. A courageous Muslim like you.
Ras Thomas is like Ras DomaRas.
He only believes in the old Haile or Menelik style of christian Island. He never wants we lived in that country.
The problem we Muslims have is not even with Government alone but with coptic extremists like RAsDoma Ras.
They simply glorify the past.
I love you man. This is what I was waiting for a long time to come. A courageous Muslim like you.
Ras Thomas is like Ras DomaRas.
He only believes in the old Haile or Menelik style of christian Island. He never wants we lived in that country.
The problem we Muslims have is not even with Government alone but with coptic extremists like RAsDoma Ras.
They simply glorify the past.
11/12/12 @ 16:55
Comment from: abchahu [Visitor]
Well balanced observation from the author and requesting the government to distance itself from interfering in religious internal affairs.
Having said that one of the main problem of the leaders of the protest is that their smear campaigns against "Ahbash" and lies that alienates the vast majority of the Muslim community. This does not bode well in the long run.
Whether the election is held in Kebele or Mosque it is the Muslims who are elected. Missed the opportunity those who refrained to participate. What a loss!!!
Assta my friend, you are in your usual tantrum with increasing wildness. As I have said it before, I doubt your intention. You have an agenda to create havoc in our country. Why? What is the gain?
Cheers
11/12/12 @ 20:34
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
1000 wives, 1000 homos, 1000 pigs, 1000 camels aka Gragn Ahmed (visitor),
Do you think I will rest until you defend the following 9 statements I gave you several days ago? I believe all of them are true statements; you can defend them if you want by giving me clear evidence from your Quran or Hadith; however, any testimony from the Holy Bible is more preferable than the testimony from both the Quran and the Hadith.
1. Islam is not a religion.
2. Muhammad was a false prophet.
3. Quran is a fiction.
4. Hadith is a fairy-tale-Arabian Nights.
5. The Sharia Law is the law of the devils.
6. Muhammad was an adulterer and a child molester.
7. Muhammad was a terrorist.
8. Muhammad was a dead woman fucker.
9. Aisha was a violent woman and a murderer.
You can prove me wrong if you have the will and the knowledge!
Do you think I will rest until you defend the following 9 statements I gave you several days ago? I believe all of them are true statements; you can defend them if you want by giving me clear evidence from your Quran or Hadith; however, any testimony from the Holy Bible is more preferable than the testimony from both the Quran and the Hadith.
1. Islam is not a religion.
2. Muhammad was a false prophet.
3. Quran is a fiction.
4. Hadith is a fairy-tale-Arabian Nights.
5. The Sharia Law is the law of the devils.
6. Muhammad was an adulterer and a child molester.
7. Muhammad was a terrorist.
8. Muhammad was a dead woman fucker.
9. Aisha was a violent woman and a murderer.
You can prove me wrong if you have the will and the knowledge!
11/12/12 @ 20:48
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Abchahu (visitor),
I am glad to hear from you again.
You wrote: “You have an agenda to create havoc in our country.”
Since the death of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie, Ethiopia has been in turmoil and havoc (to use your word) and remains that way until a democratically elected leader emerges. And more frightening to the country’s tumult is the rise of Islamist terrorists in our country; I was shocked when I heard armed Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims had tried to free their jailed Muslim criminals in Dessie area.
As you are already familiar with most of my comments, I would like to see the spread of Islam and the constructions of new Mosques in Ethiopia are stopped and the Saudi Wahabbists be deported. That is my agenda; that is my intention, and that is my goal.
I am glad to hear from you again.
You wrote: “You have an agenda to create havoc in our country.”
Since the death of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie, Ethiopia has been in turmoil and havoc (to use your word) and remains that way until a democratically elected leader emerges. And more frightening to the country’s tumult is the rise of Islamist terrorists in our country; I was shocked when I heard armed Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims had tried to free their jailed Muslim criminals in Dessie area.
As you are already familiar with most of my comments, I would like to see the spread of Islam and the constructions of new Mosques in Ethiopia are stopped and the Saudi Wahabbists be deported. That is my agenda; that is my intention, and that is my goal.
11/12/12 @ 21:26
Comment from: MohammedAmin [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu
You Said
'Ethiopia has been in turmoil and havoc (to use your word) and remains that way until a democratically elected leader emerges'
Why do you need to replace your 'Christian Government' (Im only quoting your own description of the current Gov) with democratically elected Government who will unlikely ban building of new mosques and outlaws expansion of Muslims?
You also said
' And more frightening to the country’s tumult is the rise of Islamist terrorists in our country; I was shocked when I heard armed Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims'
Didnt you say that ALL Muslims are terrorists ( or potentially terrorists), so now why finger point only on a segment of Muslim population? be consistent (Christians don't deceive remember? lol)
You Said
'Ethiopia has been in turmoil and havoc (to use your word) and remains that way until a democratically elected leader emerges'
Why do you need to replace your 'Christian Government' (Im only quoting your own description of the current Gov) with democratically elected Government who will unlikely ban building of new mosques and outlaws expansion of Muslims?
You also said
' And more frightening to the country’s tumult is the rise of Islamist terrorists in our country; I was shocked when I heard armed Ethiopian Jihadist Muslims'
Didnt you say that ALL Muslims are terrorists ( or potentially terrorists), so now why finger point only on a segment of Muslim population? be consistent (Christians don't deceive remember? lol)
11/12/12 @ 22:38
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Assta Getu,
You are such "geleba". As the days pass your true self comes to be empty.
Who thought you that awkward English construction? By whose expertise do you think is "more preferred to" ever used? Is it in England your master? Or the American or the Newzealnd ir the Australians or the kukuyus?
You are incredible person. Ayee ethiopia copts!!!
You are such "geleba". As the days pass your true self comes to be empty.
Who thought you that awkward English construction? By whose expertise do you think is "more preferred to" ever used? Is it in England your master? Or the American or the Newzealnd ir the Australians or the kukuyus?
You are incredible person. Ayee ethiopia copts!!!
11/12/12 @ 23:08
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