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Ethiopia: Addis Ababa, the New York of Africa?
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Ethiopia: Addis Ababa, the New York of Africa?
Ethiopia: Addis Ababa, the New York of Africa?
BY ROSE ATHUMANI
Previously published in Tanzania Daily News (Dar es Salaam)
ANALYSIS
Addis Ababa — ADDIS Ababa loosely translated means a 'new flower'. The capital city of Ethiopia is indeed blooming and very fast, Addis is also known as the home to the African Union, formerly the Organization of African Union (OAU).
According to Wikipedia, Addis Ababa is the largest city in Ethiopia with a population of over 2.5 million people quoting the 2007 census. As a chartered city it has the status of both a city and a state, is often called the capital of Africa because of its historical diplomatic and political significance to the continent.
Founded in 1887, this sprawling, hospitable city is situated at the foothills of the Entoto Mountains. Being my third visit to Addis Ababa I was determined to try and see as much as I could, despite the tight schedule I had. There is much to do and lots to see if one is visiting for pleasure and or business plus lots of souvenirs from the signature white Ethiopian dresses with intricate trimmings to fashionable outfits mostly from Italy.
The city has a flourishing cultural life, and Ethiopians are proud of their music. Not forgetting Injera, a large, soft, pancake like, which forms the basis of most Ethiopian meals, served with a communal tray with accompanying array of spicy sauces. What amazed me most as I was being driven to the hotel from the airport is the construction boom going on. There is lots of construction from skyscrapers to condors and roads.
I couldn't help being fascinated at the speed at which the city is growing in modernity compared to other African cities. I mean, really I am used to seeing a building or two going up here and there in Dar es Salaam but this is different, construction is everywhere around the Ethiopian capital.
No wonder some people speculate that in several years to come, Addis will be the New York of Africa, with eye catching architectural buildings. The structural transformation of the city, the skyscrapers going up; each with unique architectural designs left me awe struck and it's not just real estate that's booming, but there is also the construction of a light rail around the city being carried out by a Chinese railway company, the likes of those found in European countries.
It is no wonder that Addis Ababa has made it to the top ten as one of the best cities to visit in 2013, published by the Lonely Planet, a global travel guidebook. The Ethiopian capital is number nine on the list with Puerto Iguazu of Argentina coming number 10, while San Francisco, California and Amsterdam in the Netherlands came first and second respectively.
Although Addis Ababa is growing at a fast rate economically, like in many other cities in African countries, Dar es Salaam included, it still faces a number of problems including that of sewage. Dirty and smelly water can be seen flowing freely in open ditches. This is of course with exception of some areas such as the Bole area.
Public facilities and open fields are on the verge of extinction, just like in Dar es Salaam. I did not see any open space and this was confirmed when I looked it up in the Internet. It is a good thing then that the government is repossessing open spaces that have been grabbed by greedy investors.
Mixing business with pleasure my colleagues and I decided to have dinner outside the hotel I was staying just so I could have a glimpse of Addis Ababa by night. After asking around for a place where we could have beer and some food, we were directed to the Beer Garden.
Apparently the Beer Garden is very popular amongst foreigners and the beer is served in five litre towers at the German bar. The beer which is brewed by the establishment is served in either really tall glasses or the five litre towers with a tap at the bottom.
There is the deep reddish coloured brew which has a higher alcohol content compared to the coloured brew. Another interesting aspect of Addis Ababa was the posters of the late Prime Minister Meles Zenewi who passed away in August this year, are still lined up on billboards along the streets and avenues, buildings, shops and in different postures, with messages proclaiming their love for him and how they will carry his mantle ahead to achieve his vision.
Its seems that despite having little tolerance for oppositions with claims of having a poor human rights record, his people still adore him and do not seem to be able to let go. Much as Ethiopians show respect for their leader, I realised one morning on our way to the conference centre that Ethiopians are rather religious.
I was amazed at how they profess their faith by touching holy buildings or grounds and praying reverently with their heads covered. Ethiopians would not pass a holy place, without touching, kissing or kneeling down and saying a little prayer silently.
Addis Ababa, like in many African cities, has its share of beggars, with children running along side you begging for money in their mother tongues pointing at their mouths, meaning they want money to buy food or something like that...and if you give one of them money, he or she goes and calls others, who swarm around you almost tripping you as they all beg for money.
Waiting in traffic women with babies clamped on their sides tap on the windows of vehicles, smiling beautifully at you while begging for money. The babies too smile up at you with big beautiful innocent eyes, if you have a small heart, you might end up emptying your purse.
63 comments
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
Mekatele newe engdihe ye ethiopia telatoche lol
yaze engdihe yadu genete lij ena ethiopian yemiwede hulu eskese eskese eskese.
Embureeeeee hahahahaha!
yaze engdihe yadu genete lij ena ethiopian yemiwede hulu eskese eskese eskese.
Embureeeeee hahahahaha!
11/18/12 @ 10:57
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
Extrabegger
Did you read the last sentence. Beggars women caring their children's. Were n't you one of those beggars children out side Ras hotel begging for a change. I still remember your mother Heny and you father ZERHUN,full of Fleas ,who used to beg on the window of our car.
That is the weyanne economy success BEGGERIZEM
Did you read the last sentence. Beggars women caring their children's. Were n't you one of those beggars children out side Ras hotel begging for a change. I still remember your mother Heny and you father ZERHUN,full of Fleas ,who used to beg on the window of our car.
That is the weyanne economy success BEGGERIZEM
11/18/12 @ 11:37
Comment from: sf [Visitor]
To all,
It is always good to dream. This dream is not my dream or the dream of an ordinary people. This dream is the propaganda dream of Woyanne.
If not, go and see Cairo,Pretoria, Capetown and so many towns in Africa.
My dream is at least to eat 2 times per day.
It is always good to dream. This dream is not my dream or the dream of an ordinary people. This dream is the propaganda dream of Woyanne.
If not, go and see Cairo,Pretoria, Capetown and so many towns in Africa.
My dream is at least to eat 2 times per day.
11/18/12 @ 12:00
Comment from: Mo [Visitor]
Comparing Addis Ababa to New York is a bit too much. It would sound more realistic to say Addis Ababa is the next "Beijing," of Africa. How can a city that doesn't even have a proper sewage system can be compared to New York - the most populous city in the United States and the world's center for finance, culture and media? For starters, Ethiopia is the biggest jailer of journalists in the world, along with China and Eritrea. That comparison ends there. Let's get real, please.
11/18/12 @ 12:05
Comment from: Belete [Visitor]
MO and Co., you are missing the big picture here. think this way, if it wasnt for the politics, meaning assuming we have elected government and democracy, this kind of eye witness assessment filled with hope and bright future would have meletd our heart with joy. but you know you cant get every thing and a glass half full is better than an empty one. yes the city is improving a lot and no question several years from now it would be one of the best cities in africa. there is no reason to be sad and cranky about this, unless you are one of those poor individuals, like elias kifle, dr brhanu etc... who are banned from the country..lmao...
11/18/12 @ 12:52
Comment from: Mojo [Visitor]
If you want real talk; Addis Ababa no where near to Nairobi, Harare, Abuja and I am not going to mention Johannesburg, Cape town, or north Africa. you want another bitter truth? little Asmara much cleaner. Addis is growing city but disorganized urban planing, poor sewage system, donkeys cars cows everywhere.
11/18/12 @ 13:38
Comment from: Bruk [Visitor]
C'est moi senait
I don't know what kind of person u r called your self the above user name, but you are very obssessed to see ethiopia growing. when you use some of the unkind words, those words show me what or who you are. i think it is better to listen to your self. where ever you go in the world, there is beggars. before we came to USA, most ethiopians used to believe there is now beggars in USA at all. but the realty is there is tens of thousands in single area. so, please change your course. your ideas are neither constructive nor helpfull. i hope you are not the DERG cadre, which was the worest of all in ethiopian history.
LETS BRING OUR IDEAS TO THE TABLE FOR COMMON GOAL NOT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER OR SPREAD HATE. LETS ACCEPT THE REALITY AND CHANGE OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER. NO BODY EXCEPECT US TO BELIEVE IN ONE THING, BUT OUR DIFFERENCE HAS TO BE FOR THE COMMON GOAL OF OUR COUNTRY.
I don't know what kind of person u r called your self the above user name, but you are very obssessed to see ethiopia growing. when you use some of the unkind words, those words show me what or who you are. i think it is better to listen to your self. where ever you go in the world, there is beggars. before we came to USA, most ethiopians used to believe there is now beggars in USA at all. but the realty is there is tens of thousands in single area. so, please change your course. your ideas are neither constructive nor helpfull. i hope you are not the DERG cadre, which was the worest of all in ethiopian history.
LETS BRING OUR IDEAS TO THE TABLE FOR COMMON GOAL NOT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER OR SPREAD HATE. LETS ACCEPT THE REALITY AND CHANGE OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER. NO BODY EXCEPECT US TO BELIEVE IN ONE THING, BUT OUR DIFFERENCE HAS TO BE FOR THE COMMON GOAL OF OUR COUNTRY.
11/18/12 @ 13:38
Comment from: Concerned [Visitor]
If you are not good to yourself or happy with yourself, you cannot say well about anybody or anything. Addis Abeba came long way, and so is Ethiopia. Please, contribute some thing tangible, important things that can better our country. If you cannot contribute something, be positive. Alternatively, it is even better to be quite. Addis Abeba I know yesterday is different from what it is today, in many ways. If today is not good day for you, hope for better tomorrow and be part of the contributors.
11/18/12 @ 13:49
Comment from: Hanna [Visitor]
Senait,
In case you don't know NYC, there are beggars in New York too! Do not pick negative aspect and project it as if the whole view is on that. Silly!
In case you don't know NYC, there are beggars in New York too! Do not pick negative aspect and project it as if the whole view is on that. Silly!
11/18/12 @ 14:29
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
What a joke ,Another disullioned payed lobbyists vomiting his usual lies .Does this guy ever seen Johansburg ,even not far from this Nairobi ,Kampala ,Luanda ,Maputo why not St Louis and many many other African cities florishing with modern buildings and more modern equipments .It's not because Chinese built the AU center and goat Herders Agazi fake officers own
new buildings around Bole Road that things have changed .On the contrary
BEGGARS and Street Children multiplying ,compared to others periods, by 100 times ,and most of the citizen unable to eat even once
a day .Worst lots of shortage of electric and clean water services .Of course Moron stupid bandas as Extrapente who are swalling daily woyane propagandas whorship such childish propagandas...LOL !!!!
11/18/12 @ 14:31
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
I was amazed at how they profess their faith by touching holy buildings or grounds and praying reverently with their heads covered. Ethiopians would not pass a holy place, without touching, kissing or kneeling down and saying a little prayer silently.
Asafari new.
Asafari new.
11/18/12 @ 14:37
Comment from: my2cents [Visitor]
Yes, Addis Ababa is the spritual sister city of New York. Most creative people come out from New York City; likewise, "so and so come out of her" is said of Jerusalem a.k.a AA. Soulfulness and modernity are just two of the qualities shared by the two great cities.
How the Gurages beat the Arabs and chased out the unscrupulous and unfair negades from Ethiopia post Italy's occupation: read Fitawrari Zewde Reta's new book (2nd part) very interesting story. Similarly, the Somalians have managed to chase the Indians out of Kenya in the last decades and Woeyanes are repeating the Arab's loser history.
http://alturl.com/xoptt
11/18/12 @ 14:43
Comment from: Cobra [Visitor]
Dear Mojo,
At list we the Ethiopian built Addis, not like the others which was built in by the colonial era. The white ppl built nairobi or Harare. Plz don t come here to open ur f£&@ing mouth.
Kula ras u and that women senait
At list we the Ethiopian built Addis, not like the others which was built in by the colonial era. The white ppl built nairobi or Harare. Plz don t come here to open ur f£&@ing mouth.
Kula ras u and that women senait
11/18/12 @ 15:14
Comment from: Kifle [Visitor]
Hey guys we need to appreciate the trend of our country's development. It doesn't matter who takes the credit for it. We need to say a spade a spade. That is what I understood from the above article, despite some unhappy reactions from a few guys most probably in the neighborhood.
11/18/12 @ 15:59
Comment from: BARAK SAPIRO [Visitor] 
I hate Brookly
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.
11/18/12 @ 16:22
Comment from: BARAK SAPIRO [Visitor]
I hate Brooklyn I hate Brooklyn I hate Brooklyn
I hate Manhattan I hate Manhattan I hate Manhattan
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.
IN ETHIOPIA MIRACLEUS DREAM When you wake up in the morning you swing your legs out of bed and you put your feet on the ground and you stand up. You don't scoot to the edge of the bed and look down to make sure the floor is still there. The floor is always there. Until it's not
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.MIRACLEUS DREAM I hate Manhattan
I hate Manhattan I hate Manhattan I hate Manhattan
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.
IN ETHIOPIA MIRACLEUS DREAM When you wake up in the morning you swing your legs out of bed and you put your feet on the ground and you stand up. You don't scoot to the edge of the bed and look down to make sure the floor is still there. The floor is always there. Until it's not
My favourite characters are Woyane or Weyane Agamis' people who think they’re normal but they’re not.MIRACLEUS DREAM I hate Manhattan
11/18/12 @ 16:32
Comment from: Favioli [Visitor]
What a joke!!! There we go again on this crazy town!!
Cést Moi, Warrior Queen, you are right on most things, but no insults! I have warned you also before.
Talking of Addis the NY of Africa, Addis Zemen where art thou? Can you please enlighten us???
Anyway I will go there soon and report on it.
Cheers.
Cést Moi, Warrior Queen, you are right on most things, but no insults! I have warned you also before.
Talking of Addis the NY of Africa, Addis Zemen where art thou? Can you please enlighten us???
Anyway I will go there soon and report on it.
Cheers.
11/18/12 @ 16:38
Comment from: Haleluya [Visitor]
the best site to keep up with addis's development, from page 39 backward or forward...enjoy it...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1429657&page=39
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1429657&page=39
11/18/12 @ 17:05
Comment from: Muammar al-Gaddafi [Visitor]
I noticed this to Ethiopian government "I♥NYAddis the NY of Africa" poster on the wall, and the "I♥NYAddis the NY of Africa" flag over the door, and the "I♥NYAddis the NY of Africa" dishtowels, and the "I♥NYAddis the NY of Africa" lunchbox on the kitchen table. I♥NYAddis the NY of Africa shirt, Woyane YANKEES club Go 'head." Freaky Crack Head Woyane
11/18/12 @ 17:08
Comment from: BARAK SAPIRO [Visitor]
New York Addis the NY of Africa is a place where the rich walk, the poor drive Cadillac's, and the beggars die of malnutrition with thousands of dollars hidden in their mattresses. Miracles of Woyane or Weyane Agamis I don't know how you feel, but I'm pretty sick Weyane Agamis
11/18/12 @ 17:39
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
It is simply catching up with the rest of the world form the iron feast of Mengistu.
TPLFs and Shabians are trying so hard to jack the story and history of Ethiopia in an attempt to extend their stay in addis and sell land to foreigners and pocket as much as they can before time runs out.
Idiots like ExtraIdiot are poor and pitiful losers who have nothing to show except the obvious..... the inferiority complex and fear towards other ethnic groups.
TPLFs and Shabians are trying so hard to jack the story and history of Ethiopia in an attempt to extend their stay in addis and sell land to foreigners and pocket as much as they can before time runs out.
Idiots like ExtraIdiot are poor and pitiful losers who have nothing to show except the obvious..... the inferiority complex and fear towards other ethnic groups.
11/18/12 @ 18:32
Comment from: Mesfin B [Visitor]
ይህ ታንዛንያዊ ደግሞ ለ ኢ ህ አ ዴ ግ ተቀጠረ ማለት ነው?
ብሎ ብሎ አዲስ አበባን የ አፍሪቃ ኒው ዮርክ ልትሆን ነው ይበል! ይደንቃል መቸም ጆሮ የማይሰማው የለ !!
የጭቃው ቤት እንዲሁም sewer system ሳይኖረን ነው ከ አለም ትላልቅ ዘመናዊ ከተሞች ጋራ አዲስ አበባን የምናወዳድረው!!
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እረ ሁሉ እየተስተዋለ ቢሆን ጥሩ ነው ሰዎች
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ብሎ ብሎ አዲስ አበባን የ አፍሪቃ ኒው ዮርክ ልትሆን ነው ይበል! ይደንቃል መቸም ጆሮ የማይሰማው የለ !!
የጭቃው ቤት እንዲሁም sewer system ሳይኖረን ነው ከ አለም ትላልቅ ዘመናዊ ከተሞች ጋራ አዲስ አበባን የምናወዳድረው!!
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እረ ሁሉ እየተስተዋለ ቢሆን ጥሩ ነው ሰዎች
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11/18/12 @ 18:48
Comment from: GUD [Visitor]
@ C MOI CENAIT THE CHIGOGIT
THOSE BEGGARS WITH FLIES ON THEIR FACE
ARE CREATED BY YOUR HODAM FATHER AND ZERMANZERS BUT LOOK WHERE YOU ARE NOW AND LOOK WHERE THEY ARE NOW. BE WICH AGER EKEKSHIN EKEKI.WORADA BALEGE!!! IS THIS WHAT YOU LEARN FROM YOUR DEBELO LEBASH FEUDAL FATHER?
THOSE BEGGARS WITH FLIES ON THEIR FACE
ARE CREATED BY YOUR HODAM FATHER AND ZERMANZERS BUT LOOK WHERE YOU ARE NOW AND LOOK WHERE THEY ARE NOW. BE WICH AGER EKEKSHIN EKEKI.WORADA BALEGE!!! IS THIS WHAT YOU LEARN FROM YOUR DEBELO LEBASH FEUDAL FATHER?
11/18/12 @ 18:56
Comment from: samson [Visitor]
Go Addis ababa Go.
here from canada we support you guys. in canada we built project call think ethiopian. this project brings togetheir all ethiopian student around canada. it is really impressive job, like what is going in Ethiopian. Good bless Ethiopain and the nation.
here from canada we support you guys. in canada we built project call think ethiopian. this project brings togetheir all ethiopian student around canada. it is really impressive job, like what is going in Ethiopian. Good bless Ethiopain and the nation.
11/18/12 @ 19:07
Comment from: Gashe mamo [Visitor]
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Everything that glitters is not gold!
When going deep inside Addis Ababa, its social problems are still there. We need a policy change! In property right we are at the bottom list! The land policy should be taken out of the constitution! The bureaucracy and restrictions in federal offices should be eliminated! ........
No more excuse of executive problems, because the real problem is all the way at the top!
With numerous blockages Citizens have been engaged in development of the city ....
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Everything that glitters is not gold!
When going deep inside Addis Ababa, its social problems are still there. We need a policy change! In property right we are at the bottom list! The land policy should be taken out of the constitution! The bureaucracy and restrictions in federal offices should be eliminated! ........
No more excuse of executive problems, because the real problem is all the way at the top!
With numerous blockages Citizens have been engaged in development of the city ....
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11/18/12 @ 19:51
Comment from: Brooks [Visitor]
Dear Mojo
In the older days of beautiful Asmara Standing at the intersection of now called Sematat Ave. and Bedeho Ave. used to show 50/100 people crossing that intersection,it is not exaggeration Sir.Now in the present time you don't find a single person crossing that intersection means Your beautiful Asmara is clean without it's residents.Have you looked the pictures during the celebration of martyrs day in Massawa and Independence day in Asmara how many people you saw in that picture.Your beautiful Asmara is clean because no body lives in it.
In the older days of beautiful Asmara Standing at the intersection of now called Sematat Ave. and Bedeho Ave. used to show 50/100 people crossing that intersection,it is not exaggeration Sir.Now in the present time you don't find a single person crossing that intersection means Your beautiful Asmara is clean without it's residents.Have you looked the pictures during the celebration of martyrs day in Massawa and Independence day in Asmara how many people you saw in that picture.Your beautiful Asmara is clean because no body lives in it.
11/18/12 @ 20:49
Comment from: john john [Visitor]
Gragn Achmed
The only "ASAFARI" is a people like you want spread hate all over in the name of Moamed. The fake prophet and a child molester.
The only "ASAFARI" is a people like you want spread hate all over in the name of Moamed. The fake prophet and a child molester.
11/18/12 @ 21:30
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Hey people, it is not surprising to see the likes of senait, the brain dead old woman, or the asshole shabian TEDDY the coocoo, or the Tsetse fly desperate old b!tch ment4you say anything. Because they are old dead people walking. Anything they say is out of line and because of their mental defect hopelesness anything they say doesn't make any sense.
But the rest of you guys who keep saying all the negative things about our country should be ashamed of yourselves, for not reading the whole article or take it out of context.
The writer of this article put it very clearly about people's speculation, that in several years to come, Addis Ababa could become the New York city of Africa. It is just prediction and speculation. What is wrong with that? And she continued to write whatever she witnessed comparing with other citys she saw including her own city Dar es Salam.
When we say the New York city of Africa, it is figuratively speaking, and it doesn't neccessarily have to be the exact copy of New York city. But as New York city is where the headquarters of the UN is, and also is Addis Ababa where the headquarters of the AU.
If our hope, vision and plan make you so angry like this, I wonder how the reality of development and transformation hapening on the ground is torturing you to death!
But the rest of you guys who keep saying all the negative things about our country should be ashamed of yourselves, for not reading the whole article or take it out of context.
The writer of this article put it very clearly about people's speculation, that in several years to come, Addis Ababa could become the New York city of Africa. It is just prediction and speculation. What is wrong with that? And she continued to write whatever she witnessed comparing with other citys she saw including her own city Dar es Salam.
When we say the New York city of Africa, it is figuratively speaking, and it doesn't neccessarily have to be the exact copy of New York city. But as New York city is where the headquarters of the UN is, and also is Addis Ababa where the headquarters of the AU.
If our hope, vision and plan make you so angry like this, I wonder how the reality of development and transformation hapening on the ground is torturing you to death!
11/18/12 @ 22:30
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
Well,well, how could I forgot to mention you Addis beggar on my list who used to beg out side Ras hotel. Hahaaaaa. Any journalist who write abou Ethiopia always mention about Addis beggars relatives who are now abounded by their weyannes Hoddams who become rich but hide inside luxury house not to see their beggars sisters and brothers in the streets of addis. Some of these beggars are very close family members of these Hoddams rich weyannes.
Addis zefen keep on barking while your own relatives end up on the streets begging and those Leba weyannes turn their back on them. How much do you get from your Leba masters to come here vomite your beggar propaganda.
Addis zefen keep on barking while your own relatives end up on the streets begging and those Leba weyannes turn their back on them. How much do you get from your Leba masters to come here vomite your beggar propaganda.
11/19/12 @ 00:04
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
john pedophile john [Visitor],
Speak for your self you little bastard. Go see if you can find your daddy called John.
Speak for your self you little bastard. Go see if you can find your daddy called John.
11/19/12 @ 01:01
Comment from: Harlem [Visitor]
While members of the ruling Woyanne junta and their families plunder the country and buy properties in Western capitals, over one million people in Ethiopia’s capital Addis Ababa are left homeless and many of them depend on restaurans leftovers to survive while majority residents of Addis spend a month salary to eat Doro-Wett chicken stew .In Addis Ababa chicken was sold between 150-200 birr in the market. If a person bought the chicken at this amount, then he/she has to face the extra costs of preparing the chicken. One of the most important ingredients of Doro Wet is butter. the best butter was for 200 birr. Including the costs of the spices of butter to prepare it in Ethiopian way, the amount can go up to 300 birr.In countries like USA homeless life standard is equivalent to the life standard of the 95% Addis Ababa residents.The homeless in USA get free food and free clothing from missionaries and volunteers. If we see the case of Ethiopia the volunteers that are supposed to help the homeless end up taking the food and the clothes to their homes or sell it for money.The need to start a rescue mission that will have an honest impact on Addis Ababa’s residents is long overdue.Religious freedom will definitely bring transformation on the life standard of the residents of Addis Ababa.To make matters worse Addis Ababa on September 2012 announced that it has granted pardons to more than 1,950 Ethiopian prisoners.Addis Ababa is indeed turning into crime infested parts of New York.
11/19/12 @ 05:29
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Adgi ,the Shabyan Prostitute ,keep on jerking on yourself Moron Lefaffi .Where the hell have you seen Addis changing .It's not because Goat Herder Agazis ,the Saudi Tycoon and fool diasporas have tens buildings and business that you can call the city NY .What about Asmera ,the city of your prostitute Mom ,honored by your dead leba master as the city of Liberty ,the then called by Facists as the African Rome ...LOL !!!!
11/19/12 @ 06:40
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Brooks ,don't be fooled by shabyan propagandas .As their Agazi bros these guys are also chaneling the same fake information .The reality is different ,since the Fake Independance ERi cities are on the way to desapear one by one ,because of lacks of proper equipments and none project of restauration accomplished since May 1991 .Asmera buildings are on the eve of falling down .While Massawa is still on the state after 1990 and Assab has ceased to be a city after 1998...LOL!!!!!At least that Adgi Banda and his Amice 4 Kilos bros shall manage something for their holly land ...LOL !!!
11/19/12 @ 06:50
Comment from: IT [Visitor]
Those outfits aren't italian. They were made by Ethiopians.
Who told you that?
Who told you that?
11/19/12 @ 07:05
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
C'est moi Senait ,you are absolutly right ,Adgi is a Shabyan ass hole paid by the evil widow and co. tigre
mafiosis .To Shit on diaspoara's medias .While his sister is begging
in front Sengaterra Temamaw Foke ,owned by his Amice master Bereket ,and his nephew running to sell kollo ay Kambolodjio chased by Samora's Agazi Body Gards not to stand next to his pick ups and Limousines...LOL !!!!
11/19/12 @ 07:17
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
Addis Zefzef the Gay Shabian
Besides qula metbat there is nothing you can do but cry like the little girl you are when we deport you back to Mekele or Asmera.
WE own you like a dog on a leash. With a brain capacity of a dedebit and a girlish courage don't expect anything to change for you anytime soon.
Achi zemblesh qula tebi....in Mekele where you belong
Besides qula metbat there is nothing you can do but cry like the little girl you are when we deport you back to Mekele or Asmera.
WE own you like a dog on a leash. With a brain capacity of a dedebit and a girlish courage don't expect anything to change for you anytime soon.
Achi zemblesh qula tebi....in Mekele where you belong
11/19/12 @ 08:49
Comment from: Belay [Visitor]
lemayaqish tategni...alu... we all know what addis used to look like in the 80s and 90s, it was like a big toilet where even the few top hotels and restaurants didnt have a decent bathroom. i dont know why some people are angry at this but the city has come a long way since the fall of derg with 10s of thousands real state houses most build by the diasporoa, thousands of condominiums units, roads extending through out the city and hundreds of high rise buildings. this isnt bad for a city that slept for centuries and one that wasnt colonized by the west. most of you are simply too stupid and blinded by hate to admit what is infront of you. this is like some one from the other side denying the misery people go through as the result of high inflation, can you dummies (teddy, ment4you..etc) imagine that???
11/19/12 @ 10:04
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
Belay
There is no more dedeb than you, who said we are against it moron?
What we are against is TPLF and Shabia trying to benefit, as you accurately stated, a city built by "Diaspora". At least you got that part right.
What we are against is people like you, Addis Zefzef the girl Shabian, Agazit Pr0zac Woman, ExtraIdiot, Heny Brian Dead, who are parasites and have little to contribute and happy to manipulate money from the banking systems in Addis and refuse to go back to where you came from Mekele and Asmera.
Meles is DEAD and control will be gradually transferred over to the rightful owner of the country Amehara, Gurages, Oromos, none TPLF Tigrayans, and every other Ethiopian.
It however will not include TPLFs and Shabians and people with inferiority complex like yourself and the people I mentioned.
There is no more dedeb than you, who said we are against it moron?
What we are against is TPLF and Shabia trying to benefit, as you accurately stated, a city built by "Diaspora". At least you got that part right.
What we are against is people like you, Addis Zefzef the girl Shabian, Agazit Pr0zac Woman, ExtraIdiot, Heny Brian Dead, who are parasites and have little to contribute and happy to manipulate money from the banking systems in Addis and refuse to go back to where you came from Mekele and Asmera.
Meles is DEAD and control will be gradually transferred over to the rightful owner of the country Amehara, Gurages, Oromos, none TPLF Tigrayans, and every other Ethiopian.
It however will not include TPLFs and Shabians and people with inferiority complex like yourself and the people I mentioned.
11/19/12 @ 10:55
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
HaHaHaHa!!!
Wow! C'shermuta senait, the old prostitute, and the asshole shabian TEDDY the coocoo, and the desperate old b!tch ment4u, meant4every1 cheap shelle. Or shall I call them the three little pigs!
I will take these three losers back to Addis and show them around what the city looks like, then give them 40 slashes on their old ass, oopps it is too much. They're too old for that, they'll die. instead I will throw them in Kalliti for one day to be mollested by the prisoners, especially ment4u, she dreams and fantasize to be molested by ten or more people taking turn on her.
Wow! C'shermuta senait, the old prostitute, and the asshole shabian TEDDY the coocoo, and the desperate old b!tch ment4u, meant4every1 cheap shelle. Or shall I call them the three little pigs!
I will take these three losers back to Addis and show them around what the city looks like, then give them 40 slashes on their old ass, oopps it is too much. They're too old for that, they'll die. instead I will throw them in Kalliti for one day to be mollested by the prisoners, especially ment4u, she dreams and fantasize to be molested by ten or more people taking turn on her.
11/19/12 @ 12:46
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
At the end, after all guys take turn on her, the old b!tch ment4u (meant4every1) will say, thank u guys 4 making my dreams come true, then will die peacefuly. How sad! The end of a desperate lonely old woman¿ but atleast her life long fantasy of being raped by as many as 10 guys comes true. HaHaHaHa!!!!
11/19/12 @ 13:11
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
Addis Zefzef the Bushti Shabian
Are you talking with qula in your mouth? I hear you and Agazit Woman had qula metebat for Meles when he was alive at the same time, anchi disgusting looking setaset, you and Agzit take it in the afe and ket too hoping that is going to improve your inferiority complex.
Addis Abeba belongs to Ethiopians the only person who needs a tour is outsiders like and Meles who beg to be accepted everyday.
Meles is DEAD and your refugee status is here by revoked, now time for you to take a tour in Mekele and Asmera. Aram and fesam TPLF!
Are you talking with qula in your mouth? I hear you and Agazit Woman had qula metebat for Meles when he was alive at the same time, anchi disgusting looking setaset, you and Agzit take it in the afe and ket too hoping that is going to improve your inferiority complex.
Addis Abeba belongs to Ethiopians the only person who needs a tour is outsiders like and Meles who beg to be accepted everyday.
Meles is DEAD and your refugee status is here by revoked, now time for you to take a tour in Mekele and Asmera. Aram and fesam TPLF!
11/19/12 @ 13:36
Comment from: Tulu Proud ET [Visitor]
What a lie? Who is this article trying to fool as if we don’t know the truth?
This is news right out of a garbage dump.
What we know and what this useless article is saying is different as night and day. Addis Ababa’s population is swelling by the Tigre invaders leaving Adwa and Tigray to steal people’s home, business and land.
Because of Tigrea colonizers One Million of Addis Ababa’s citizens have become victims and have lost their homes, jobs, businesses, land, and properties to Tigres. Majority of those people are living by eating trash from the huge pile of trash located in Addis Ababa.
EPRDF and their gangs are trying to give us a rosy picture and it is shiny to them because they are not working to earn all that wealth. They are stealing people’s hard earned money.
Tigres must go back to Tigray zone just as they are forcing other people to live in their zones
This is news right out of a garbage dump.
What we know and what this useless article is saying is different as night and day. Addis Ababa’s population is swelling by the Tigre invaders leaving Adwa and Tigray to steal people’s home, business and land.
Because of Tigrea colonizers One Million of Addis Ababa’s citizens have become victims and have lost their homes, jobs, businesses, land, and properties to Tigres. Majority of those people are living by eating trash from the huge pile of trash located in Addis Ababa.
EPRDF and their gangs are trying to give us a rosy picture and it is shiny to them because they are not working to earn all that wealth. They are stealing people’s hard earned money.
Tigres must go back to Tigray zone just as they are forcing other people to live in their zones
11/19/12 @ 14:14
Comment from: ETHIO.VISTOR [Visitor]
IF ALL F@ken @GAMES AND ERITREAN BEGGERS leave our beloved capital city and returned back to there's jungle and shanti villages we wouldn't have all these conversation the savages brought there dirty blanket, gabi,ansola,kumta-suri,congo chama, lice, herps, and problems with them. The WONBEDES knows no normal ETHIOPIAN will go to live at there's cursed,barren.chigaram drought stricken desert TIGRAY or ARETREA. The northern thicks and leeches are biting our AZZ!
11/19/12 @ 15:34
Comment from: ETHIO.VISTOR [Visitor]
The F*KEN FILTY WONBEDE TEGRES must return back to there native land, KILIL.SIHFTA-CAVES, Monkey cliffs,termite piles,mangosse burrows, and practice there's ongoing savagism. The WEYANE hired the beat up tanzanian KUMAMAYO! FAG-HOG to bluff an @game propoganda inspite of forget to mention the cause of our capital sweage system which is clooged up due to the street shittery of 1000.000 AGAZI ANIMALS, which are never seen or used toilets before there stinky congo-chama steep in in ADDIDS ABABA and trained by addis born citzens. C'mon herdes leave our town!!!
11/19/12 @ 16:43
Comment from: True [Visitor]
I JUST CAME FROM ADDIS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. TO COMPARE ADDISS TO NEW YORK IS FAR STRETCH EVEN IN A FEW YEARS. IT MIGHT TAKE 15 - 20 YEARS TO START TO COMPARE. BUT ADDISS HAS CHANGED BIG TIME AND EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. EVEN THE IDIOT DIASOPRA OPPOSITION KNOW THIS BUT THEY CAN'T SAY IT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OUT OF MONEY TO COLLECT. BUT ADDISS IS IN THE RIGHT TRACK AND IS CHANGING BIG TIME. AND THE WOMEN I HAVE NO WORD TO SAY. NOW THAT IS BETTER THAN NEW YORK 100%. THE WOMEN IN ADDISS ARE LIKE CAKE. THEY SPEND EVERY SECOND TAKING CARE OF THERE LOOKS. WOW I ALREADY MISS SEEING PRETTY GIRLS IN ADDISS NOW I AM BACK TO UGLY TOWN D.C.
11/19/12 @ 18:12
Comment from: favioli [Visitor]
Hi True,
Is it that bad in D.C.?? After all they are, all of them, the same Abyssinian girls! Why do you find them ugly in DC and not in that hell-hole Addis??
Cheers
Is it that bad in D.C.?? After all they are, all of them, the same Abyssinian girls! Why do you find them ugly in DC and not in that hell-hole Addis??
Cheers
11/19/12 @ 18:28
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Betatch ,lekammi Tultulla banda ,by the way could imagine the state of a
Hotel Bathroom in a city suffering of shortage of Water Services...LOL !!!Adgi keep on shiting on yourself ,Addis is getting more and more dirty since the presence of your parasite bros .Knowing perfectly your Amice Banda origin ,we are here inting you to take care of your Holly Land
cities than jerking days and nights on a patriotic ,True Ethiopians' ,Democratical Forum of Discussion .YE SHABYA KIT LASHI ,YE
SAUDI BARYA ,YE AGAZI ANBETTA ,YE AZEB MESFIN KEBT BANDA !!!!!!!
11/19/12 @ 18:44
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
It is a dis appointment really, missing out on this rather exquisite description of our beloved City and its inhabitants.
I for one love it. It positive.. it is always good to acknowledge growth even if it is your political enemy who is doing it, it still deserves praise. So yo'll be happy that Addis is growin for sure with growth of this sort employment grows, businesses grow.. the country grows, though we may have no use for all these buildings now, we will in the future. They may stand empty now like the stomachs of the hunger stricken street children who would rather get a regular meal as opposed to staring at these buildings.. never the less, growth is growth no matter who done it. Infrastructure is some thing the leba woyane can not deposit in a foreign bank. And that is the truth.
So, enjoy the truth that it is just like any other city with its up and downs, rich, poor, full tummy here empty over there, justice, injustice all in one just like any other city.. rejoice that we are at a relatively peaceful time in comparison to our recent history as a nation. Restrict opposition of the woyane to political differences, corruption etc.. and not on growth, we will do fine.
Many here on Nazret seem to be unhappy at anything, my suggestion.. lighten up, give yourselves time to enjoy life.. move on.
I for one love it. It positive.. it is always good to acknowledge growth even if it is your political enemy who is doing it, it still deserves praise. So yo'll be happy that Addis is growin for sure with growth of this sort employment grows, businesses grow.. the country grows, though we may have no use for all these buildings now, we will in the future. They may stand empty now like the stomachs of the hunger stricken street children who would rather get a regular meal as opposed to staring at these buildings.. never the less, growth is growth no matter who done it. Infrastructure is some thing the leba woyane can not deposit in a foreign bank. And that is the truth.
So, enjoy the truth that it is just like any other city with its up and downs, rich, poor, full tummy here empty over there, justice, injustice all in one just like any other city.. rejoice that we are at a relatively peaceful time in comparison to our recent history as a nation. Restrict opposition of the woyane to political differences, corruption etc.. and not on growth, we will do fine.
Many here on Nazret seem to be unhappy at anything, my suggestion.. lighten up, give yourselves time to enjoy life.. move on.
11/19/12 @ 23:35
Comment from: True [Visitor]
favioli,
CALLING ADDIS A HELL HOLE IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU CAN MAKE IF YOU ARE ETHIOPIAN. IF YOU ARE ERITREAN OF COURSE IT IS A HELL HOLE SO DON'T GO. IMAGINE GOING TO A PLACE WHERE ALMOST EVERYONE YOU SEE AND EVERYWHERE YOU GO TO IS FULL OF ETHIOPIANS. IMAGINE BEING IN NEW YORK BUT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE YOU SEE ARE ETHIOPIANS....ASK ANYONE THAT WENT TO ADDIS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. THE GIRLS DRESS WAY BETTER THAN IN D.C. THEY KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN, THERE IS A LOT TO DO. THE GIRLS ARE MORE SMARTER THAN ETHIOPIAN GIRLS IN D.C. BEKA LIFE IS GREAT IN ADDIS. I WANT TO GO BACK NOW.
CALLING ADDIS A HELL HOLE IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU CAN MAKE IF YOU ARE ETHIOPIAN. IF YOU ARE ERITREAN OF COURSE IT IS A HELL HOLE SO DON'T GO. IMAGINE GOING TO A PLACE WHERE ALMOST EVERYONE YOU SEE AND EVERYWHERE YOU GO TO IS FULL OF ETHIOPIANS. IMAGINE BEING IN NEW YORK BUT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE YOU SEE ARE ETHIOPIANS....ASK ANYONE THAT WENT TO ADDIS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. THE GIRLS DRESS WAY BETTER THAN IN D.C. THEY KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN, THERE IS A LOT TO DO. THE GIRLS ARE MORE SMARTER THAN ETHIOPIAN GIRLS IN D.C. BEKA LIFE IS GREAT IN ADDIS. I WANT TO GO BACK NOW.
11/20/12 @ 00:19
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
True,...
Thanks, you're making favioli jealous. He is a deported asshole shabian who cannot go back anymore to Addis. That's why he is calling Addis a hell hole.
Thanks, you're making favioli jealous. He is a deported asshole shabian who cannot go back anymore to Addis. That's why he is calling Addis a hell hole.
11/20/12 @ 00:56
Comment from: Favioli [Visitor]
True,
I am not an Ertrean, to start with.
Why eveyone is labelled Shabian eveytime one expresses a different opinion on anything is hard to understand. Of cource you have the right to go to Addis and enjoy. I don't deny that the girls in Addis dress good and are fun to be with. So go there and have a good time; it is your right, but don't label people just for the sake of it.
Aroge Zeffen, ante achebchabi Gurage!!
AP was right, ya beshetaah jemereh; it was just a matter of time before you came down to your natural levele of a street thug. I thought we made peace and there you go insulting me! Atachebcheb ebakeh, be musherit mot. Ay yante neger, endezih hono kereh, agereh gebteh kotcho satbela??? Letena yargeleh.
I am not an Ertrean, to start with.
Why eveyone is labelled Shabian eveytime one expresses a different opinion on anything is hard to understand. Of cource you have the right to go to Addis and enjoy. I don't deny that the girls in Addis dress good and are fun to be with. So go there and have a good time; it is your right, but don't label people just for the sake of it.
Aroge Zeffen, ante achebchabi Gurage!!
AP was right, ya beshetaah jemereh; it was just a matter of time before you came down to your natural levele of a street thug. I thought we made peace and there you go insulting me! Atachebcheb ebakeh, be musherit mot. Ay yante neger, endezih hono kereh, agereh gebteh kotcho satbela??? Letena yargeleh.
11/20/12 @ 04:11
Comment from: Favioli [Visitor]
Cést Moi, warrior queen,
What shall we do about this achebchabi Gurage, Aroge Zeffen?? Will you hang him at merkato, Zeberga suk fit le fit, or shall we dump him in Awash wenz, Awash endibelauw, ageru gebto kotcho saybela?? Ha ha ha...
What shall we do about this achebchabi Gurage, Aroge Zeffen?? Will you hang him at merkato, Zeberga suk fit le fit, or shall we dump him in Awash wenz, Awash endibelauw, ageru gebto kotcho saybela?? Ha ha ha...
11/20/12 @ 04:22
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Favioli,...
Was it a slip of a tongue, for you to call Addis a hell hole? I don't think so! This is your second time saying so. And I never expect this from a guy who call himself yadissabba lij. Shame on you!
Was it a slip of a tongue, for you to call Addis a hell hole? I don't think so! This is your second time saying so. And I never expect this from a guy who call himself yadissabba lij. Shame on you!
11/20/12 @ 06:24
Comment from: Favioli [Visitor]
Hi ato Addis Zemen, zemedee,
Endet neh? I have explaied this before, what my reasons were, and also advised you to go see other towns. Addisaba Kazanchiz azmari beet ena Randevouz hedo megolet becha aydelem; there are more things to it than that. When we meet there I wll gladly show you things of which you have been intentionally blinkered, and after that we will drink cool beer at The Rendevouz! What sayth thou??? besides can you please stop calling me shabia asshole? I find it very disgusting. I could call it any name I want. Ante yeketemwaw kentiba aydelehim, yeshomehem yelem, even not that of Soddo!ha ha ha.. Yene zemedotch nacheuw Addisaban yekorekorut, benegerachen laay. Selezih arfeh tekemet, Addisaban bewers yeseteh yelem. Gebaah??? Kalhone degmo, me and the warrior queen have very good plans to solve this nagging Addis Zemen problem once and for all, as you may already know and hopefully agree with.
Cheers
Endet neh? I have explaied this before, what my reasons were, and also advised you to go see other towns. Addisaba Kazanchiz azmari beet ena Randevouz hedo megolet becha aydelem; there are more things to it than that. When we meet there I wll gladly show you things of which you have been intentionally blinkered, and after that we will drink cool beer at The Rendevouz! What sayth thou??? besides can you please stop calling me shabia asshole? I find it very disgusting. I could call it any name I want. Ante yeketemwaw kentiba aydelehim, yeshomehem yelem, even not that of Soddo!ha ha ha.. Yene zemedotch nacheuw Addisaban yekorekorut, benegerachen laay. Selezih arfeh tekemet, Addisaban bewers yeseteh yelem. Gebaah??? Kalhone degmo, me and the warrior queen have very good plans to solve this nagging Addis Zemen problem once and for all, as you may already know and hopefully agree with.
Cheers
11/20/12 @ 07:41
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
Addis Zefzef the Gay Shabian
What do you know about Addis? You are not in Mekele or Asmera where you learned how to suck a dick.
Anchi setaset clam down girl!!!
What do you know about Addis? You are not in Mekele or Asmera where you learned how to suck a dick.
Anchi setaset clam down girl!!!
11/20/12 @ 07:41
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Favioli,...
Ciao, come va!
Hey, you brought a good idea. Why don't you bring your date senait and I will borrow AP for one day date from TD, and let's get together somewhere in Addis. Better yet AP seems to know a lot of nice spots in Addisabba to have fun. And we will settle our differences.
Ciao, come va!
Hey, you brought a good idea. Why don't you bring your date senait and I will borrow AP for one day date from TD, and let's get together somewhere in Addis. Better yet AP seems to know a lot of nice spots in Addisabba to have fun. And we will settle our differences.
11/20/12 @ 07:50
Comment from: Favioli [Visitor]
Addis Zemen,
Babene!! Great idea, as always but Cést Moi and AP are fuming with anger at your previous message, I think. First settle that and we will do the rest, good/??.
Have a nice day.
Babene!! Great idea, as always but Cést Moi and AP are fuming with anger at your previous message, I think. First settle that and we will do the rest, good/??.
Have a nice day.
11/20/12 @ 08:30
Comment from: What? [Visitor]
The lose of confidence and credibility is piling up on Woyane/EPRDF supported false articles.
What is going to be said about Johannesburg, South Africa or even Nairobi, Tripoli, and some of those who have a higher living standards and economic muscle? Don’t forget Ethiopia is at the bottom and one of the poorest country in Africa.
Woyane/EPRDF supporters are making everything impossible for people to believe them.
Even some one like me who was to some extent supporter of EPRDF is now changing my views. I cant not continue to give excuses for the lies that is piling up because EPRDF is not acting like a government but a simple propaganda machine.
What is going to be said about Johannesburg, South Africa or even Nairobi, Tripoli, and some of those who have a higher living standards and economic muscle? Don’t forget Ethiopia is at the bottom and one of the poorest country in Africa.
Woyane/EPRDF supporters are making everything impossible for people to believe them.
Even some one like me who was to some extent supporter of EPRDF is now changing my views. I cant not continue to give excuses for the lies that is piling up because EPRDF is not acting like a government but a simple propaganda machine.
11/20/12 @ 14:11
Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
What? An asshole shabian!
Really? You're supporter of EPRDF? Don't make us laugh. You sound so stupid when you call Nairobi a higher living standard. Wow!
Take it easy anyway, we are not asking your approval. Fill free to die in jealousy though!
Really? You're supporter of EPRDF? Don't make us laugh. You sound so stupid when you call Nairobi a higher living standard. Wow!
Take it easy anyway, we are not asking your approval. Fill free to die in jealousy though!
11/20/12 @ 14:34
Comment from: tekeray [Visitor]
i saw abebe belew villa on line how much is he asking to rent..please this is urgent.
11/20/12 @ 17:08
Comment from: werner2010 [Visitor]
Addis is changing for the better very fast, and that cannot be denied. Many things are getting better, with the exception of two things: 1. the horrible smell, 2. the noise pollution.
The first thing you notice when you leave the airport to enter the city is the smell of car exhaust and dust. You may escape this smell when you reach home or your hotel. The real horror follows, if there is a religious institution within a radious of a mile from the place you are staying. Especially Orthodox churches abuse their 120DB loudspeakers literally day and night with impunity.
The first thing you notice when you leave the airport to enter the city is the smell of car exhaust and dust. You may escape this smell when you reach home or your hotel. The real horror follows, if there is a religious institution within a radious of a mile from the place you are staying. Especially Orthodox churches abuse their 120DB loudspeakers literally day and night with impunity.
11/20/12 @ 17:19
Comment from: new york myas [Visitor]
Which New York are we talking about before or after the hurricane Sandy? The city is built with no zoning regulation, unplanned utility system and building materials are not pass their safety standards. People mark my word in a few years 80% of the new buildings start falling apart to the point where fixing them is not possible or the cost will be so high. People start complaining most condo’s are damaged, some units has bathroom leak from upstairs and the smell is so bad its hard to leave with that condition.
11/21/12 @ 13:21
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