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Ethiopia: Between Journalism And Terrorism: The Curious Case Of Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson

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11/20/12

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Ethiopia: Between Journalism And Terrorism: The Curious Case Of Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson

Ethiopia: Between Journalism And Terrorism: The Curious Case Of Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson


November 20, 2012

By Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam

Previously Published by Eurasia Review

Martin Schibbye and Johan Persson, two Swedish journalists, were detained on 1 July 2011 after they were captured in Ethiopia during a fight between rebels from the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) and a contingent of the Ethiopian National Defence Forces (ENDF) in Ogaden. The two journalists were charged with violations of the Ethiopia anti-terrorism law and both acknowledged during their trial that they had entered Ethiopia illegally via Somalia accompanied by rebels from ONLF. However, they argued that their contacts with the ONLF were intended to help them enter a region the Ethiopian authorities would not allow journalists to enter. They alleged their purpose was to report on the activities of a Swedish oil company, Lundin Petroleum AB, in the Ogaden as well as allegations of human rights violations. Both of them denied terrorism charges, including claims that they had been given weapons training. They were, however, sentenced in December 2011 by the Third Criminal Bench of the Federal High Court to seven years in prison on the charge of abetting terrorism, which they denied, and another three years and 3 months for entering Ethiopia illegally, a charge to which they pleaded guilty. They were pardoned by the Ethiopian Government on 10 September 2012 and released the next day after serving nine months of their sentences.

Dr. Sisay Alemahu is an Ethiopian legal scholar at Åbo Akademi University in Finland. He posted on Facebook, “I have been asked about a hundred times about the imprisonment of the 2 Swedish journalists – with an undertone of ‘how did the government of your country dare to do so?’. The funny thing is that almost all those who asked me do not have any idea about the situation of journalists in Ethiopia. For many, it is the ‘Swedish brand’ that made the whole thing ridiculous. Nobody, including the journalists after their release, talks about their illegal entry into the country, etc. What I found more appalling is their allegation that they would have been ‘shot dead anytime along the period of their detention’ and their ‘degrading treatment’ without referring at all to how other Ethiopian prisoners in their situation were treated. I would never condone the imprisonment and mistreatment of any journalist as such, but the whole story about the SWEDISH journalists has been curiously funny. They are now vowing ‘to give back’ – help Ethiopia realize freedom of the press – I wish them luck.”

I replied to Sisay in the same Facebook thread, writing that “I think what makes the case of the Swedish journalists curious is not so much their national origin as the charge of terrorism. I beg to differ with your assertions. Getting indicted with charges of terrorism and aiding and abetting terrorism is fundamentally different from that of entering without a visa. How often do you think journalists cross borders in order to carry out their professional duties in conflict zones? How do you think journalists manage to get the news that we watch on a cable TV sitting comfortably in our couches or that we read in the papers sipping coffee almost every day?”

The surest way for a journalist to get the news is to be there, but gaining access to what can be described as a conflict zone is not easy. In order to do their jobs in a conflict zone, foreign journalists essentially have two options: either obtain a visa or enter illegally. Even large media outlets and wire news services such as Reuters, CNN, AFP, AP, and Bloomberg get us the news by maintaining correspondents on the ground at a great personal risk. Sisay may be unclear about this professional hazard as well as, for example, the many foreign journalists who entered Tigray via the Sudan in the company of the Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) to cover the humanitarian crisis that followed the civil war and drought in Tigray in the recent past.

Now the issue is whether sovereign states have to hold foreign journalists criminally liable for entering its territory without a visa. Any state has the right to control its borders and to establish entry requirements for foreign nationals, including making illegal entry a criminal offense. But that specific offense is different from the offense of terrorism. The Ogaden region has not been freely accessible to foreign journalists since December 2006 and, according to human rights watchdogs, the region has experienced terrible humanitarian crises since then, in great measure caused by the use of scorched-earth tactics by the ENDF in its operations against the ONLF, as well as to chronic drought.

At the risk of being called unpatriotic, I stand with Schibbye and Persson and don’t flinch in defending them. You can call them many things, but they are not terrorists. They are journalists exercising the internationally recognized freedom of the press. As the phrase goes, “they gots to do what they gots to do.”

Dr. Firew Kebede, an Ethiopian legal scholar at Deakin University School of Law, Melbourne, Australia, joined the debate. He wrote, “I think both of you are highlighting different aspects of the issue. Sisay, I hear you when you say that the matter received so much attention because it involved foreign nationals, particularly from the west, while numerous Ethiopians are being sent to prison on the ill-conceived “terrorism charges”. But even among Ethiopians, we only tend to talk of some high profile victims of these “terrorism” charges, while there are several hundreds being sent to prisons not only in Addis but also in so many small towns around the country. Elsewhere I stated that it is ridiculous for TPLF to accuse foreign journalists of terrorism while they fully know how western journalists were visiting them in Tigray mountains during the armed struggle without getting visas or papers from the government. They are being disingenuous. Another point, which is mute now, is that weren’t the Swedish journalists on a mission to make a documentary on corrupt Swedish politicians connected to a shoddy oil exploration contract in Ogaden? It seemed to me that their goal primarily was not to report on the war itself but on the oil deals? Did this contribute? What do you guys know about this?”

In the Ethiopia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ official weekly publication, A Week in the Horn, the Ministry claims, “In fact, Schibbye and Persson were very fortunate in being acquitted of terrorism charges after the court found they had not actually been involved in carrying out any terrorist activity. In fact, luckily for them, as the group they accompanied was clearly on an active mission, they were caught before any such activity took place.” An Ethiopian-American attorney, Bereket Tesfu, asserts also in the same vein that the two Swedish journalists were lucky to “(l)et alone be imprisoned, they should be counting their blessings that they survived a military confrontation between the Ethiopian army and ONLF and are already back home with their families.” What’s so disturbing about this line of thinking is its tendency to reduce the rule of law to good luck or fortune.

It would not be a mistake to think that the two Swedish journalists entered Ethiopia via Somalia knowing full well the legal risks of their actions. They were not ignorant nor did they miscalculate. They were aware that if arrested, they ran the risk of being convicted of illegally entering Ethiopia and sentenced to the maximum penalty for that the offense. But it is ridiculous to think that Schibbye and Persson were aiding and abetting terrorism. The Ethiopian Government declares that the ONLF is a terrorist organization and that being affiliated with it is by itself criminal. Well, my response to that assertion is: “One person’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.” The Ethiopian Government’s terrorism designation of the ONLF could easily have been applied to the TPLF if it had not succeeded in winning the civil war. What say you?

The Ethiopian Foreign Ministry also claims by way of a refutation that these two Swedish journalists did not enter Ethiopia to cover the activities of a Swedish oil company as they alleged, because there was no Swedish oil company operating in the region by the time Schibbye and Persson entered Ethiopia. Rather, according to the Foreign Ministry, they were in Ethiopia “to produce ‘evidence’ of atrocities” committed by the Ethiopian National Defence Forces against the Somali people of Ethiopia’s Ogaden region and to derail ongoing peace negotiations between a faction of the ONLF and the government.

In refuting the allegation that they were in Ethiopia to cover the business activities of a Swedish oil company, the Foreign Ministry makes a bold statement to the effect that “Lundin in fact sold its Ethiopian oil concessions to Africa Oil Corporation over three years ago, and Lundin now has nothing to do with any activities by Africa Oil in the Somali Regional State. Africa Oil itself is quite open about its activities and is in fact on record as noting that it hasn’t seen any of the violence claimed by the ONLF in the areas in which it operates.” The most surprising element of this statement is not so much the affirmation of the cessation of Lundin Petroleum AB’s activities in Ethiopia resulting from the transfer by sale of its oil concessions, but the use of Africa Oil Corporation as a witness to the Ethiopia Government’s impeccable human rights records in the Ogaden region. Whatever the merits of Africa Oil Corporation’s testimonials as to the state of human rights in Ethiopia, the truth of the matter is that Africa Oil Corporation is a subsidiary of the Lundin Group of Companies, which are under the overall management and guidance of Lukas H. Lundin and Ian H. Lundin. Africa Oil Corporation is an oil and gas company with assets in Kenya, Puntland, Ethiopia, and Mali as well as through its 45% equity interest in Horn Petroleum Corporation. The Company’s shares are listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the symbol “AOI” and on the NASDAQ OMX First North Exchange under the symbol “AOI”. What emerges from the Foreign Ministry’s audaciously never-before-heard defense of Lundin Petroleum and Africa Oil Corporation is the whiff of something suspicious about the award of the concessions and its impact on the security of the region. In this regard, I can’t help but agree with Dr. Firew Kebede’s suggestion that the atrocities were not the only issue that Schibbye and Persson wanted to cover. It seems that they also wanted to cover the oil concessions concluded with Lundin Petroleum, its probably unseemly corporate behavior, and the subtle manner it tried to exit from the scene by transferring its Ethiopian oil concessions to what initially seemed a completely different company. It now seems that the Swedish journalists entered Ethiopia with the double purpose of exposing the atrocities committed by the ENDF and the activities of Africa Oil Corporation, a Canadian company belonging to the Swedish Lundin family. Looming shades of the Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest?

On an absurd note, however, what Ethiopian authorities did in response to Schibbye and Persson’s media appearance once they returned to Sweden was to block domestic Ethiopian access to the website of the Swedish state broadcaster Sveriges Television (SVT). If these journalists had been Ethiopians, their fate would have been same as Judge Birtukan Mideksa’s – revocation of their pardon and reincarceration. It was the speech that Judge Mideksa gave to her supporters in Sweden that got her into trouble again in Ethiopia.

What lessons did Schibbye and Persson learn from the Ethiopian legal system? One thing that is too important to ignore, which is that in Ethiopia journalists who investigate the government or criticize its policies and practices, whether home-grown or foreign, are presumed to be terrorists until they enter a plea for a pardon. This is currently the only way to secure a release from imprisonment and the larger prison called Ethiopia, because the Ethiopian authorities make no distinction between journalism and terrorism. Every dissenting journalist is presumed to be guilty until proven innocent. And innocence is only proven by pardon pleading.

Sisay’s observation can’t be downplayed none the less, given that Ethiopia’s own sons and daughters such as Woubshet Taye, Eskinder Nega, and Reeyot Alemu are still languishing in jail for no fault of theirs. The late Prime Minister Meles Zenawi once remarked, “If that is journalism, I don’t know what terrorism is.” But, all I need to do now is to turn it around, “If that is terrorism, I don’t know what journalism is.”

Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam is a visiting scholar at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin and specializes in the Horn of Africa. The views expressed are his own.

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47 comments

Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
MY PURE AND ETHIOPIAN Punishment.......they should be brought to meskel sq. In addis ababa to suffer the humiliation of wearing a wooden board around their neck, marked with a description of their crime for all to see in meskel sq. Addis ababa. These two bastards,are not the first one, there was in late 70-80 one of swede well known author of the book ( a woman with dragon tattoo ) best seller was in Ethiopia smuggled then by Shabia to blow up schools,hospitals etc...the scandanavian are in genera to destroy Ethiopian united and support all the time those who are against Ethiopians.

They never employe if you are Amhara. They employ shabians etc..... I remember even the Canadian ,swede and norwagin
used to have only shabians in their embassies.
11/20/12 @ 23:36
Comment from: ment4you [Visitor]
*****
Cane in point .... never enter another country uninvited, and don't instigate division or try to legitimize an illegitimate and disestablishing group or assume to be knowledgeable on matter and people and country you have no clue about. Y

No sympathy from me ..... you got what you deserved!!! Well not quit!
11/20/12 @ 23:45
Comment from: john john [Visitor]
*****
We heard all the arm twisting maneuver the best solution in such kind of future incident let the gallant defense force take care of it right at the sight case closed. Learn from great mistake and let's move on.
11/21/12 @ 00:16
Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
It seems this two idiot thugs are getting the attention they were seeking for their inferiority complex!
11/21/12 @ 00:39
Comment from: HAMETIC & SEMETIC [Visitor]
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@C'est moi senait [Visitor]
What's your point i lost you.
you hate America,you hate Scandinavians Where in the hell west do you live?
you Always Negative do you've a LIFE?
11/21/12 @ 00:58
Comment from: Ejole Ambo [Visitor]


If these two journalist were black from Africa and illegally entered to Spain to report about Basque Nationalism or United Kingdom to report about Irish Republican Army( IRA ),they would be in Guantanamo Bay detainment camp( GITMO ) at this time.OR September 11 were happened in Africa and the victims were all black Africans, Osama Bin Laden would still alive somewhere in Europe or USA.
11/21/12 @ 03:05
Comment from: Ejole Ambo [Visitor]


Do you remember what happened on 7 July 2005 in London? Islamist home grown terrorist detonated four bombs in London underground trains across the city and 52 civilians were killed in the attack. Imagine what would happened to that country,if the attackers had office in Africa?? Do you remember what happened on 24 April 2007 in Abole oil field in the Somali region of Ethiopia? The Ogaden National Liberation Front( ONLF )attacked civilians and killed 74 people including 9 Chinese workers. But the ONLF still has office in London.
11/21/12 @ 03:48
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
EXtrapente ,you mean 'COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY' ...LOL !!A psychiatric disturbance that you and your Thuggy bros are suffering since the begining ,your Daily HYSTERIA vis à vis Patriots and Amhara Peoples .AGAZI ASS LICKER BANDA !!!!
11/21/12 @ 04:15
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Ejole Mekelle who the hell are you supposing fooling .If these two journalists were black or Arab why not Tigre and captured in Western Country .First of all their cases shall be prosecuted by a FREE JUDICIAL SYSTEM .And also revealed by the press and mass medias without being already categorised as "TERRORISTS" as did ETV ,WALTA ,Adgi forum ,AZebmesfinfirst.com and Bandalandonline.com ASS HOLES FAKE JOURNALISTS !!!!
11/21/12 @ 04:24
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
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Ejole Mekelle ,do you know that from 1975 through 1991 TPLF and Shabya used to put bombs and Terrorist attacks against civilians .And at this Time ,these two organisations did have Official Representations in LONDON....LOL !!!!
11/21/12 @ 04:30
Comment from: Gondar [Visitor]
from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]


YES MILLION YES,THANK YOU FOR WELL CONTRACTED AND FACT ANALYZING ,
11/21/12 @ 04:58
Comment from: Ejole Ambo [Visitor]

TEDDY,

Wrong Then, Wrong Now:to give shelter for any organization which target civilians.
11/21/12 @ 05:06
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]


1975 through 1991
There were two world one American side and USSR side. Ethiopia were in USSR side neutrally if British support TPLF it make sense because Ethiopia were communist and against them so they have to do what they have to do.

Today is different story Ethiopia is in the same camp America. and British so why are they working against her. This like USSR supporting TPLF openly.

The second reason the America and British support TPLF is TPLF were freedom fighter... The different between freedom fighter and terrorist is very simple in Mangustiu time there is no political space for TPLF to work or fight peacefully so there only one way to be a freedom fighter. In case of ONLF there are million way they can fight peacefully inside Ethiopia without armed struggle so there is no reason to be a terrorist. To this end British also must support ONLF peaceful struggle not armed or terrorist struggle do u see the different between TPLF and ONLF.

One is freedom fighter and the other is terrorist.. If u don't believe me ask our grad father who fought against Italian ask them if they are terrorist or freedom fighter. Ask the American who liberated Europe if they are terrorist or freedom fighter because they bomb the hell out of Europe in order to liberated them so Mangustiu was an evil man so the only way out is freedom fighting. Thanks for freedom fighter Ethiopia is free from evil.
11/21/12 @ 07:21
Comment from: heny [Visitor]
Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson
Shame on you, you big losers. You erred, you were jailed, then you asked for clemency and you were set free. How the heck do you now that your appologies were fake and pretentious? Wait we will one day catch you by the collars.

11/21/12 @ 07:29
Comment from: heny [Visitor]
Nazret.com,
Why did you disable the part for comments n the death of the man you call you call Prof. Chekol Kidane? Why are you restricting our freedom of commenting about him? Why did you then let every body free to comment on the passing of thr great leader, our PM Meles Zenawi? This is an open testimony that you are loser are skewd to the loser opposition camps.
Also didn't this man work and make money when he was alive? Why are are nagging the Ethiopian Diaspora to contribut money? It is a shame that a professor has no money to facilitate his burial.
11/21/12 @ 07:41
Comment from: Obsaa [Visitor]
@Ejole Ambo and other Woyane Thugs:

You tried to defend the barbaric acts of Woyanes on the two Swedish journalists. Your argument is funny;you attempted to compare the situation with some ideal African journalists assumed to be improsoned in Spain for the sake of reporting on Basque movement. My replay is that U cannot compare the prsoners handling system of Ethiopia with that of any European country. In Ethiopia prisoners are deprived of their human rights;they are tortured, raped, forced to admit crimes they didnot commit and even killed with out legal verdict. STOP UR NONSENSE ANALOGY!!!
11/21/12 @ 08:02
Comment from: Ejole Ambo [Visitor]

@Obsa,

I'm not defending any body,but my country.If it is crime to enter to in Europe illegally, why not in Ethiopia? I don't support human right violation of prisoners, but unfortunately it happens every where in the world including by developed countries.Do you know about Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq?Don't you remember the crime committed by military police personnel of the United States Army?If you don't remember let me refresh your brain:there were series human right violation in the form of physical,psychological and sexual abuse including torture,rape,sodomy and homicide.
11/21/12 @ 09:03
Comment from: Ejole Ambo [Visitor]

@heny

Yes, three days ago Professor Meseret Chekol has passed away in the USA,RIP If the news were reported here in Ethiopia,the people would ask:who is this man? what did for us? What a waste of life!!
11/21/12 @ 09:45
Comment from: Smar [Visitor]
May I request any of those distinguished Ethiopian intellectuals ? If an Ethiopian fly by air to any European or generally western country with out visa, isn't that an entry illegal and would be in prison ? Let alone to a restricted war zone to enter illegally without permission from sovereign country like Ethiopia ? Their entry for what ever reason in collaboration with the outlawed ONLF fighters by itself could put them for life in prison . They would rather thanks to Ethiopian government who grant them pardon .
. It would have been seen wise if government army shot them dead and claim their killing as killed by friendly shot during fighting, that is ONLF.
11/21/12 @ 10:28
Comment from: Shalom [Visitor]
What things make these white boys/journalists Ashebari?

- They entered in to the country illegally

- They entered into the country via a security/prohibited zone.

- They entered assisted by an organization labelled as Ashebari.

- They had carried weapons upon entering the country.

- They wanted to help an Ashebari organization.

So, could the GOE leave them free as soon as they caught them? Of course, they could.

But is there good ground for the GOE to sue the so called journalists if they opted to do so? Again, hell yes, they had a very good case.

So, stop and shut the fu** up. You have no case on this. You'll loose all arguments even if you want to pursue it forever.
11/21/12 @ 10:57
Comment from: nenewe [Visitor]
I fully agree with the assertion that they are not terrorists. The terrorism charge was a sham. It is a thinly-veiled law to silence any form of dissent. But they were accused of entering Ethiopia illegally to which they pleaded guilty. I don’t understand why you find it ridiculous TPLF did what it did to these guys? It was the duty of any gov’t to control its borders and apprehend anyone who enters the country illegally and TPLF knew that it was taking a risk when it brought journalists into the country illegally; they were not in gov’t then. Now that (TPLF) is in power and did any gov’t does. Arrest them and deal with them according to the law of the land, if there is one. These journalists might have other motives for entering illegally; terrorism was not one of them. Those other motives you mentioned were equally were not tolerated by the gov’t and the best way to get them, the gov’t decided, was to charge them with terrorism.
11/21/12 @ 11:16
Comment from: Y. Mohamed [Visitor]
I am SURPRISED! The Ethiopian traditional oppressors cursing each other on the net. It was ok for Tgray to fight and illegally unseat president Mengistu’s regime in Addis. It seems ok for Ahmara to struggle to reclaim their throne. But Ogadens, who are they? In the eyes of Ahmara and Tigray we are chattel to be owned by the victor. I am saddened that we are lost in your discourse.
11/21/12 @ 12:03
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Ejole Mekelle what about the civilains murdered by Shabya and Woyane , the bombs introcuded in the Addis city Hall and Telecommunication by them in 1975 , and all the trucks and lorries drivers assassinated by them....As you know such kind of act of Banditism is also called TERRORISM .
11/21/12 @ 12:11
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Extrapente ,it's been 4 months and a week that your Looter Blood Sucker Tyrant Master is roting in Hell .The Shabyan Ass Licker ,your Ass Hole Professor Indrias is on the eve to join him with his Agazi Bros Mesfin....LOL !!!And the the registration of your Agazis masters on the DEATH Files is not already closed and still OPEN....LOL !!!! By the way don't forget your Agazi Pop who is actually with your Dead Master roting too in Hell..LOL !!!
11/21/12 @ 12:26
Comment from: Tokkicha [Visitor]
I think no body is required to study political science and international relations, or no body is either supposed to join a Public Affairs University to know the preliminary difference between “Journalism” and “Terrorism”. Or no body is either expected to be a distinguished political analyst or talented journalist to know what “terrorism” and/or “journalism” is. At least, when it comes to be the case of illegally crossing a country’s boarder, a common sense use will be more than enough to distinguish between what “terrorism” and “journalism” is. What is illegal is illegal, period! It doesn't either need somebody to be a distinguished scholar in any or none of the profession related to terrorism or journalism. To understand what journalism and terrorism, for Ethiopians, is nothing other than to be true Ethiopian. To be concerned about the country’s sovereignty, unity, and peace is quite enough to know what terrorism or journalism is in connection to the Swedish chumps. Every single Ethiopian knows what terrorism is, even though journalism is a kind of profession. But, when ever journalism serves terrorism, when ever journalism initiates violence, when ever journalism is used as a mask to camouflage terrorism, when ever the covert target of journalism use is to cross our boarder illegally; then after, the measure will be serious, i.e., bullet not prison. For any mercenary journalists, who illegally cross our territory and attempts to spay our country for Shabia, Arabs, Westerns, etc then after the price will not be jail but life. Try it again you mercenaries, good luck!!!
11/21/12 @ 14:35
Comment from: nenewe [Visitor]
Tokkicha [Visitor]
The essence the above article is not about the difference b/n journalism & terrorism. It is about the terrorism charges brought against them. Was it called for or did the gov't have something to prove by bringing those charges against them & other Ethiopian journlists?
The authorities did to these journalists pretty much the same thing Mengistu's gov't would have done had it been able to control its boarders & got its hands on anyone of those journlist who, with the blessings of Woyane & Shabia entere the country illegally.
But the terrorism charges were disproportionate to what the might have treid to do or done. The terrorism law in Ethiopia is designed to supress dissent as the regime became increasingly intolerant of it.The whole episode was a warning message close to home, the local journalists. I wish all those prisoners of conscience languish in those filty prisons would be given a second chance.
11/21/12 @ 16:31
Comment from: AGAZIT WOMAN [Visitor]
@ASH

Why do you need to fabricate a lie about the struggle of the heroic Tigray people that you have no idea about.

As i had told the shermuta flip flop Amhara Princess in the past do not write or speak about Tplf/Tigray people struggle that you have no clue about.

Eplf had its own foreign policy,military doctrine,and political view that was 90% different than Tplf.

During the struggle Eplf it used to change its stand of politics,views when every they meet foreign powers in order to get assistance.

That was not the case with us GALLANT TIGRAY FIGHTERS,& LEADERS OF TIGRAY PEOPLE LIBERATION FRONT.

From day one the Tigray Army never changed its color regarding of the front idology which was hard core MARXISTS that was hated by U.S.A. ,BRITISH,EUROPE,ARABS at that time.Because of that Tplf never received assistance from these countries or others.

Why would the west,Arabs countries support the hard core marixist Tplf in the early of 1980s?

Infact the majority Arabs,europe and america were against Tplf from the get go.

The Tigray fighters and Tplf never cared about the outside world to get assistance for our cause.

The Tigray people liberation Front and the Tigray people in the 1980s were adament being self reliant,self dependent to defeat the largest army in Africa.

And it was the determination,selflesness ,courage,bravery & GUERILLA WARFARE STRATEGY of the GALLANT TIGRAY PEOPLE FIGHTERS that enabled us to accomplish the impossible.

I hate to say this ,but most fellow ethiopians mainly some amharas belives in if foreigners dont help you you can not win MEGA WARS,OR DEFEAT POVERTY.

On the contrary it was you Ethiopia government/DERG supporters that was trained,assisted,supported,adviced by FOREIGN COUNTRIES SUCH AS USSR,CUBA,ARABS,ISRAEL,WESTERN SPIES ETC ETC for morethan 17 years.

And not to forget the 6 billion dollars you received from foreign countries to fight the war in the early 1975-1991.

And this 6 billion dollar you received did not include other human material,supplies you put before the war.

The 6 billion dollar in the 1980s equal to in todays dollars atleast 50 billion dollars.

The point is my friend inorder for all ethiopians to have confidence stop your slave mentality that you can not accomplish the impossible without being supported by foreign powers.

We the Tigray people never blame others for our weakness and we dont have the culture of defeatest like most of you and some Eritreans who comes on this site to fabricate to cover thier loss on the battlfield as well as the diplomatic arena.

The americans,british have being spending billions of dollars to training the IRAQ,AFGAN ARMY but with no results.

But yet Some of you amharas belive the defeat of derg just happened because some countries just shipped you weapons from afar.

Come on you all stupid low IQ BASTARDS LIKE SHERMUTA AMHARA PRINCESS will never can think,analyze outside the boxes.

to be continued---

11/21/12 @ 18:41
Comment from: my2cents [Visitor]
The TPLF (Woeyanes) of middle Africa are the Tutsis. The Tutsis who hail from Rwanda and Burundi run the war theater, a proxy, wealth control and political masterminding in the region more than their former colony masters, the Belgians. They are about to run over Congo completely. They have been plundering the entire eastern Congo, the richest country in the world when it comes to natural resources, like a crime syndicate, a la Mafia style for years and now they are embarking on total invasion.
The M23 is made up primarily of Tutsis and opposes the Hutu Power militia Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) as well as area Mai-Mai (community militias).
11/21/12 @ 18:46
Comment from: AGAZIT WOMAN [Visitor]
Continued----

One of the reason i strat writing response comment on nazret.com was because of the lies,hatred that was written against the magnificent Tigray people and the Gallant,fierce Tigray fighters.

Despite my limited ability of the English language i try to do my best to expose liars,gossipers and rumor spreaders people on this site.

Hiding,covering our problems is not gonna help us address the core problems of our country.

And honesty,fairness,truthfullness are just the few aspects of life that can transform us to be better society as well as better individuals.

The demonizing ,lying,belittling the heroic Tigray people sacarifice,efforts and most importantly contribution to Ethiopia history is not gonna make you a better person or society .

If you gonna oppose the ethiopia government do it in fair manner,honesty and with the truth.

Every scumbags who comes on this site continues to fabricate,create lies just to belittle and discredit the heroic Tigray people that liberated Ethiopia after losing hundred thousands of fighters and millions of famine.

Those who perished during famine are casuality of War that was systematically designed to wipe out the Tigray people.

Despite all the obastcles of man made famine,we the heroic Tigray people were able to CRUSH ,DESTROY NOT ONLY various powerful liberation fronts such as EPRP,EDU,ELF/JEBHA BUT the largest army in Africa at the same time.

Fighting various wars in Tigray at the same time against our enemies and win can only happen in one place in the world that is TIGRAY.

The gallant Battle harden commanders of TIGRAY PEOPLE LIBERATION FRONT AND TIGRAY FIGHTERS were able to master the ART OF WAR in Tigray during the 1980s enabling us to win .

That is right my friend regardless of our education back ground majority of the Tigray people are NATURAL BORN WRITER,BUSINESS PEOPLE,MILITARY STRATEGISTS,AND IDUSTRIALISTS because we have the culture of you "can do it"

My comments are to teach ethiopians and young Tigreans what happened in those critical era of Ethiopia history.

It is better for the youth Ethiopia to learn from veterans of Tigray people liberation Front fighters who were the witness of the war,agony,pain that took place in the LAND OF ERITREA,TIGRAY AND THE REST OF ETHIOPIA.


to be continued----
11/21/12 @ 19:15
Comment from: Gobena [Visitor]
If you dont know where you come from you dont know where you will be going
tell this to weyane
11/21/12 @ 19:20
Comment from: AGAZIT WOMAN [Visitor]
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These coward foreign jouralists who were captured,would not make any dent in ethiopia internal affairs or security.

But they should have being kept in jail atleast for 11 years of hard labor to make example of them.

Unfortunatley the justice system failed by releasing them without PUNISHMENT OF ETHIOPIA STYLE/TEACHING THEM GOOD LESSON.

Banda Traitors Ethiopia who collaborate with foreigners will never never be able to defeat the ethiopia government that was put on power after millions of Tigray people sacarificed thier precious life.

We the Tigray people may have paid enormous price for this noble cause,but every Ethiopians are sharing power and doing business in ethiopia at thier free will.

We ethiopians are capable of defeating powerful enemies by our selves as well as defeating poverty.

As an ethiopian my self my advice to compatriot ethiopians is be honest,be truthful and have confidence & pride in our own ETHIOPIA ANCIENT RELIGOUS,CULTURE,TRADITIONS VALUE,MUSIC WHILE EMBRACING TECHNOLOGY & EDUCATION.

We ethiopians are highly talented people in every aspects of life,we just have to create the culture of cultivating,nurturing these gifts from god to LIBERATE ETHIOPIA FROM POVERTY AND DESTROY THOSE ENEMIES WHO TRYS TO KEEP US LIVE IN POVERTY.

We ethiopians have to continue to be an example and pride of to all our BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS AROUND THE WORLD.And defeating poverty should be one of them.

LONG LIVE TIGRAY PEOPLE!

LONG LIVE ALL ETHIOPIANS!
11/21/12 @ 19:35
Comment from: Tokkicha [Visitor]
To nenewe [Visitor]
Well, my point about the difference b/n terrorism and journalism is based on the above article, "Ethiopia: Between Journalism and Terrorism". The article, finally, ends with a questioning statement which says: "The late Prime Minister Meles Zenawi once remarked, “If that is journalism, I don’t know what terrorism is.” But, all I need to do now is to turn it around, “If that is terrorism, I don’t know what journalism is.” Here, comes my point of argument: if at all whether what the late PM said is under question or not, for no reasons can the so called Swedish journalists have legal ground to cross Ethiopian border without any legal document. Well, one cannot deny that there are many Ethiopian journalists are in prison. But, it cannot be taken as an excuse for foreign mercenaries who illegally crossed our country. by the way, I am not either arguing that every illegal act is part of or is entirely "terrorism". But, there is no question that these people who illegally crossed our boarder were assisted by the rebellious groups of the Ogden area. There is also no question that these defiant groups, in eastern Ethiopia, are working with Islamic militant terrorist forces, including Shabia. These so called journalists, but intruders, spay and suckers, who crossed our border, were trained, armed and accompanied by these terrorist forces. Therefore, in one way or another, they are not only supporters of terrorism but are also “terrorists”. Working with terrorists is terrorism, whether somebody is a citizen or not, a journalist or whatever. To be Ethiopian citizen, or Swedish, or whatever, has no excuse for any act of terrorism, period. If the difference b/n “journalism” and “terrorism”, therefore, is the difference between working in collaboration with rebellions, that are backed by terrorist forces, to cross our territory, and working as a journalist by crossing our border with a legal document, then, the Swedish journalists doubtlessly are “terrorists”. That is it!!! Thank you!!!

11/21/12 @ 21:22
Comment from: My2cents [Visitor]
King Abdullah is not the only heir to political power in the Arab world whose embrace of privatization and economic liberalization shook up an old elite and drew allegations of corruption. Much the same happened in Egypt, with Gamal Mubarak, a son of former President Hosni Mubarak; in Libya, with Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi, a son of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi; and in Syria, with President Bashar al-Assad, a son of Hafez al-Assad, a former president. - Jordan Protesters Dream of Shift to King’s Brother NYT

http://t.co/4ccPXLkz
11/21/12 @ 21:23
Comment from: My2cents [Visitor]
One of the few clear strategies to emerge in recent months is an effort to mobilize conservative elements in society. Cossack militias are being revived, regional officials are scrambling to present “patriotic education” programs and Slavophile discussion clubs have opened in major cities under the slogan “Give us a national idea!” ...

Ideas are changing inside the ruling class, as well. The pro-Western, modernizing doctrine of President Dmitri A. Medvedev has been replaced by talk about “post-democracy” and imperial nostalgia. Leading intellectuals are challenging the premise, driven into this country 20 years ago, that Russia should seek to emulate liberal Western institutions. “Western values” are spoken of with disdain.

Every year, scholars from around the world gather for a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club, where they sit around an opulent dinner table, peppering Mr. Putin with questions for hours. Mr. Peskov said this year there were few questions about democracy and human rights — because those questions are no longer of interest.

“World experts nowadays are losing their interest in the traditional set of burning points,” he said. “Everyone is sick and tired of this issue of human rights.” - Putin, in Need of Cohesion, Pushes Patriotism

http://goo.gl/Mf3ey


11/21/12 @ 21:36
Comment from: UNIVERSITY OF MILITARY AFFAIR: [Visitor]
Agazit Woman you are one impressive woman.We have being reading your well thought factual comments for awhile.And we are very impress by your knowledge of various global issues.World military experts have enormous respect to your tribe people of tigray.And we will love to help you advance your education or anything you want to do in life.Good day madam.
11/21/12 @ 22:30
Comment from: Tokkicha [Visitor]
Thank you for the information you provided us from the New York Times. But, how do you relate this to the topic under issue: “Ethiopia: Between Journalism And Terrorism: The Curious Case Of Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson”. Otherwise, something must be going wrong with either of the sides……Yours or visitors’ who are commenting on this particular article. Or-else, it must be..... move-away!
11/22/12 @ 01:26
Comment from: Tokkicha [Visitor]
To My2cents [Visitor]
Thank you for the information you provided us from the New York Times. But, how do you relate this to the topic under issue: “Ethiopia: Between Journalism And Terrorism: The Curious Case Of Martin Schibbye And Johan Persson”. Otherwise, something must be going wrong with either of the sides……Yours or visitors’ who are commenting on this particular article. Or-else, it must be..... move-away!
11/22/12 @ 01:30
Comment from: Gebru [Visitor]
@ Alemayehu Fentaw Weldemariam

"Sisay’s observation can’t be downplayed none the less, given that Ethiopia’s own sons and daughters such as Woubshet Taye, Eskinder Nega, and Reeyot Alemu are still languishing in jail for no fault of theirs"

According to the consitution of Peoples Demctatic Republic of Ethiopia, there is no special law, Treatment for "Ye Kazanches Lejoche"
11/22/12 @ 01:37
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Hey Gebru ,why are you days and nights barking against Kanzantchish Ledjotch" ,you seem suffuring of "COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY " vis à vis them .Does it mean during your child period you have been a Kollo Shatchi not far Bambis and your Mom performing the oldest job in the world in this area...LOL !!!! Keep on performing the old Funny Song "Aybaba ,Aybaba Hode ,Bambisn Man Bashageregni Kazantish Guday Neberegni ."....LOL !!!!
11/22/12 @ 05:28
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]
Teddy,
U r very obsessed about terrism since very difficult to for u the explanation I will use very simple logic to make u understand the meaning of terrism.

Black South African once called terrist by their poeresser. In a way one man freedom fighter is one man terrist.

So u might thing TPLF is terrist and ONLF is freedom fighter that is ur take but the only different is one must to win a war in order to persecute the other in case in point.

The American drop bomb on Japan. If the Japanese had win the war the American could have been perescted as terrist. If the Germany had win the war the American and British had persecuted instead of niaz

In Ethiopia case if ur evil father Mangustu had win the war Meles and TPLF had been persecuted as terrist. The same goes with ONLF they had too win the war first before labeling TPLF terrist. This very simple explalion I can come up with.

About TPLF using terrism to win the war against Mangustu... Mangustu also air bomb them daily so they can't blame them for fighting back.

The point u making why not allow ONLF to use terrism to achive their goal the same way the TPLF did.

On TPLF time Mangustu doesn't even allow them a single right the only way out is fighting. In case of ONLF there is polo tall space okay u can fight peacefully u can demonstrate peacefully if u don't belive me ask the Amhara Gonbot 7 party and the Muslim they are practicing their right peacefully.

U might ask what did they get demonstrating peacefully. My answer is if the Muslim are smart the government is ready to make a deal they should take the chance instead of losing this golden chance just like Gonbot 7 in 2005

One more if u wandering what they get in peacefully struggle then I have to ask u what did ONLF and gpnbot 7 get from armed struggle for the last 21 years. U see armed struggle also take more then40 years ask EPLF the sad thing I after freedom they are still slaved for 21 years by their own leader that means for 60 years they have no freedom so armed struggle is not sort cut ask Zimbabwe after armed Struggle they endup slaved by their own leader... So the stroy of ONLF leader is not different.

A. Woman I am sorry what the hell are u talking? Can u help me here teddy asking TPLF also use terrism to win war. Don't talk all kind of BS. Just answe the question because I am trying todo that because it is very good question and I hope I answer it well as long as teddy is not fool he will understand this basic Olmec
11/22/12 @ 05:30
Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
Mr Woldemariam writes:

The Ethiopian Government declares that the ONLF is a terrorist organization and that being affiliated with it is by itself criminal. Well, my response to that assertion is: “One person’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.”

Well, Mr. Woldemariam, perhaps you can tell this to the Americans about their belief that Al-Qaida is a terorist organization. They sure will toast your ass and banish you Guantanomo Bay for life. Please, think before you get carried away with your "I know it all" attitudes.
11/22/12 @ 09:42
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]
Almaz what u r saying is Americans r just like Al Qaida they will put u in jail just because u say freedom righter...that all it take for American to put u in Guantanamo... I don't know the American are this sensitive...

11/22/12 @ 14:59
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Ash ,under your conception of Terrorism , you are supposing that Agazi bandits used flowers not really bullets to take the power .Afterall the bombs which were introduced by Shabya and Woyane during Mengistu Era did kill peoples rge same as the ones actually used by ONLF .When you say Derg Army bombed villages ,you are not going to argue that the Ogaden civilian casualities and the mass murdering comitted by your Agazi Bandits as a legal action .As your dead Criminal Master did say the killings of civilians in the streets of Addis by his merceneries as the "Rule Of Law" . When you say Arm Struggle can take 40 years ,it can also take only few months .So what did happen recently in the past years to well known African Despots and Tyrants stack for so many years to their throne and finally wiped out .Comparing to the fate of Eri and Zimbabwan peoples under the rule of their despots ,the ones of our bros and sists under your Agazi Bandits Boots are also not really apreciable .Afterall 17 years of Agazi Bandits arm struggle ,has finally produced an ETHNO MAFIA Tyrannical regime oppressing the peoples .
11/22/12 @ 22:49
Comment from: Anon [Visitor]
Almaz
If ONLF is a terrorist, then why has your Government been negotiating with them? You don't negotiate with anyone if they are terrorists. You just go after them and elongate them. But your all-knowing government knows that for a fact that they are not terrorists. ONLFs are doing what TPLF did in their guerrilla days. Anchi shermuta, agame.
11/23/12 @ 01:11
Comment from: Ash [Visitor]
Are u talking about Arab spring that is peaceful struggle that resulted fast result... If ONLF want to take armed struggle then that is their choice it would be easer for TPLF to fight them back.

Gonbot 7 win 200 seat from only two seat in 2005 within peaceful means so peaceful means is very powerful I told u million time TPLF time and ONLF time is very different time in TPLF time the armed struggle is the only choice.... But that doesn't mean the best choice. But the only choice in today Ethiopia ONLF can have political space where they can fight peacefully instead of armed struggle and win a lot of victory for their people then armed struggle. In armed struggle u destroyed ur own land and not TPLF land.

Anyhow if u think armed struggle is ur way out then good luck to u one thing is for sure TPLF could have lost the war and slaved for life so u are taking risk... If u think. The risk is worst it then go for it..
11/23/12 @ 05:33
Comment from: washeraw [Visitor]
Agazit

You say
"We the Tigray people never blame others for our weakness and we dont have the culture of defeatest like most of you and some Eritreans who comes on this site to fabricate to cover thier loss on the battlfield as well as the diplomatic arena."

Who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the people of Tigrai? Apparently, you are assuming that the people of Tigrai think in the same line. This is the inherent contradiction between ethnic politics and democracy, my friend.

You have to learn to say "I think", "in my opinion", etc. NOBODY is entitled to speak on behalf of a people. Even those elected by a majority know that there is a minority which doesn't share their views.
11/23/12 @ 06:28
Comment from: Seattle [Visitor]
Anon [Visitor]

Your assertion about both the government and Almaz.

Spot on.
11/24/12 @ 02:51

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