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The government of Ethiopia should not practice fast track resettlement program in which the farmers and indigenous people thrown off the land and replaced by TPLF fighters and foreign investors.Resettlement is supposed to be a voluntary process that offer increased access to basic services and improved food security.However in Ethiopia farmers and indigenous people are being dispossessed of their fertile,ancestral lands and forced into new villages where there is little access to food or arable land.
The Gov./investors should construct house,clean water,health center,school... before resettling the farmers/indigenous people by doing so empowering our citizens irrespective of their ethnicity and area of origin.Unless the land invasion and forced resettlement stops,it will trigger the liberation struggle...gradually will lead to independence.

Gambella vs Zembemia


Re:-However in Ethiopia farmers and indigenous people are being dispossessed of their fertile,ancestral lands and forced into new villages where there is little access to food or arable land.

Answer:-

If their ancestral lands is fertile then why this people need Food from UK?

Besided how much is ur ancestral land that u allowed to keep? One hector? Two hector or a land eye can see..

Even in UK u can't own land without paying tax for it... Even if u see a land one can see is belongs to them then they have to pay tax on it...

I agreed with u those people must be take care of good even if they don't know their right the government must not cheat them.

For example in we produce billion birr electric power so the Gambella people must be given 10% of billion birr which is 100, million per years.

For free loader city boys look like 100 million birr A waste money since we could have get away without paying them in the first place... But as u said if we avoid freedom fighter then we will save the money because after all if Gambella got the money instead of wasting our money buying war machinery we will develop gembella... When they see how gembella develop the Ogaden freedom fighters will stop killing and joined the oil project.

If u ask me even if u give them resatllement building hut will not pay for lose of land instead if the farm investment burning income then that income must be shared with them.... Same idea in waldeba... Why the sugar company buy land as if it is city land....if the land worth 100million then pay the amount for the city of waldeba not individual

This like America buying oil from South Sudan... The American might think they could get free oil if they send army and kick around southern Suden behind they will easly get free oil but the Americans doesn't work in this logic they pay


To UK, reporter I one thing to say I always wondered why someone send Ton of Rice to Somilia... Since Somilia srounded by sea why not just send one fishing boat and one expert fisher to teach those Somilian to eat fish and become independent.

The same with Ethiopia why not send one farm expert with one tractor so that we can produce our own food... Then again that is not the idea... We have to keep those poor Gamballa alive so that aids can be given

Why is this funny AZ? It was not ok when the Derg did it, it is not ok for tplf to do it, for whatever reason. You can not sell their land and throw them anywhere you want, whats wrong with you people? It is wrong to displace citizens so that 'effort' can make money for its Tplf investors.

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Some individuals who are in love with " Wenbedes" when half a million people are displaced by a controversial "villagisation " program it is so funny.
May be this people are running away to be in the biggest refugee complex when the country is registering 11% econ. growth and prospering.They don't want to prosper, they just want to be poor.

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Hager poor,

AZ, find it funny because Meles took away people right to be POOR.. That is funny... How in hell someone build me a modern house, hospital and give me job when I want to be free to be poor and get my god given right Aids.

By the way the guy in the photo doesn't need land what he need is condom so that he will not multiply like fly if he doesn't have enough food.

I know u love Derg..., according to Derg all land belong to state. So no hurm done.... Today is different the investor creating job for the gembella people Derg time gembella is totally different today gembella just google gembella city and u will see what I am talking...

Beside Derg is not ur logic that Ethiopia belong to everyone so the investor have equal right just like the gembella people... The same gembella have the same right on Wenbedes land to work and to invest...I thought ur logic support the government... If not please correct me

addis zemen
TPLF cheerleader!

WOW !! I hope you are happy now.
Well, that is exactly what is happening in Ogaden every single day 24/7.

To Ash, You have said it so well. Thank you. For writing . I hope the cementer reads it.

What a sad story! Who is going to fight for these poor people? what a shame reading cruel and insensitive comments. God be with you, that is all I can say.

GARBAGE...MORE LIKE "MR. O" WAS ENLISTED BY "FOR-PROFIT" NGOs AND GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER WITH FAKE PROMISE OF $$ LAWSUIT.

Ash,

You are not stupid,dumb or less intelligent.You are just too funny!Keep entertaining us.This site would be boring without your comments.

BTW,I like your video too.What is the language on the video? I know it's not Tigrina.
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Ash ,yourself are in need of Special Condom ,for not being infected once more with Agazi-Amice Bandits Virus ,while you are being raped by them ....LOL !!!!!

what is that all with this so called Gardians? they seem to have so sort of fixation on Ethiopia..Is Adal Darwin the fake Egyptian the editor?

Westerns are the enemy of Ethiopian people that supporting to the worest dictator,killer,looter gov't of Ethiopia.
USA and Britain gov't must must stop their aid for dictator regime of Ethiopia. They are saving the killer dictator power. USA, Britain ...... Stop stop stop to stand on dictator of Ethiopia gov't side !!!!

The shameful act of a government lead by intellectually challenged and corrupt people leads to misery of people depraved of their land and livelihood.

A despicable cowardly primitive act on exhibition that will cost us all!!!

Many nations not only the poor and weak including all Africans but also so called the rich including France and Germany are accusing England for many illness in EU internal matters and between nations. France and German foreign Ministers have said today (23-01-2013), If England leaves EU, they would lay down a very long red carpet the way to home after giving them one way ticket and wishing the best wish for the rest of their existence alone and isolated as they are naturally isolated from Europe. They know, England is nothing but trouble maker and obstacle including playing games dividing members to argue and disagree with matters that are essential and easy to talk, agree and work on it.

Imagine how could be their multi dementional damages against poor and weak nations like Ethiopia in order to get their way and protect their interest looking for long future ahead.

But who is to blame? Not the entire English people. Not the vast majority that is forced to be blind and just follow the Establishment. Those benefiting including from colonization, slavery and everything associating with them such as cheating, criminal activities (selling weapons) and creating so many problems against and in other nations.

The English establishment is the biggest problem to the vast majority of the English people than it is to other nations. Many nations and lots of individuals including very important ones have enough with that Little England but her action against the world was/is like an aid virus- as worst as killing people after so many physical, mental and other damages.

The English Journalists are the first and worst front and bold member of the Establishment that are serving it while sharing the benefit. Because of the internet/new media, the English type of journalism is already dead. They are just working with dead journalism types. They don't have any more their ways the way they have been for more than 100 years against the world and individuals.
Today, everyone is a better journalist than the old style merciless English journalism ways mainly those working in the world service about other nations don't belong to them.

They are already exposed. But what they have to do is just go too far and deep around the trashes and garbage like this story knowing the people are primitive, the place is remote, the government is ignorant and the world has no interest to find out the truth that will expose them with lies, exaggeration and biased stories.

We know their aim is to stop development in Africa. Who forgets that BBC journalist in 2009 talking on BBC so many lies in order to stop Gilgel Gibe III. However, the dam will be in full service within a year. We also know teh English so called right groups action which is to keep africa poor, backward and ignorant which is teh best way for them to have their way as it was teh case for 100s years in teh past. They do hate nothing more than development and knowledge in poor nations mainly africa.
That is why they are using so many tactics to stop it while intending to help with is teh known tactic they have. They enslaved and colonized africa with slogan to modernize it. When they modernized it, they killed teh africans way including the people name, language, tradition, custom, faith and so on. In return, they doctrinated their values and norms which is becoming teh only way many african nations are able to function. That is why, african became unable to develop and have good life in africa in their why despite the continent is naturaly rich and big including with sun shine.

Do you think an English journalist who is part of the Establishment (English media, papers and so on), do care about any African even in Europe let alone in Africa and worst than that in very remote areas? If he/she cares, they would do anything to help in order the people to become part of the modern world. To do that they have to get education, light, water, road, medical services and so on. In order to do that the people have to settle in one place and start to have normal/modern life.

But these despicable individuals still are thinking the world is under that Little European island (England) feet. They still don't get it, that their era is over long ago. They think anything we do must be ratified by them as it was the case in the past. Otherwise, it has to stop by any means they are good at having centuries old experiance .

It is a pity and sad the English establishment is still here and causing so many troubles against the world especially the Journalists and some using NGO in order to do secret/spying while we know there are many ordinary very very nice English people out there and doing their best to bring some better changes in the world.

Look Sylvia Pankrast. She too is by Birth an English woman born in Manchester. She is an eternal legend in Ethiopian history and the world with her bravery, honest, humanist and with anything good human being has to acquire. Her son-Professor Richard and His son Doctor Alula pankrast who is speaking the best Amharic than any Ethiopia without adding any English word which is worthless Ethiopians are speaking it with zero quality and too much quantity adding unnecessary English words and they seem don't feel shame and wrong doing. They just are exposing themselves don't give any effort and value for quality which is doing pure and teh right things especially speaking to the orients. Speaking language is like selling products. But, the worthless incluiding those sitting on leadership and responsible position don't understand it. They are talking using world the public don't understand it. Even the public understand it, speaking one language without damaging teh message with foreign words is very essential and normal human being all over the world are doing that. But not the worthless Ethiopians. I feel sorry for Ethiopian journalists dealing with these kind rubished including interveiwing them concerning teh nation matters.

The point is that Ethiopians must see and treat the English Journalists that are coming in the country as enemies and bad for the country. They are the one damaged the Ethiopian image in 1984 and still is going on in many ways including "the most dangerous road in the world in 2012 on BBC TV". There are also bad NGOs. However, there are good English citizens you can judge them not with the talk they are saying to cheat but the action they are doing to make positive changes As the Sylvia family is doing for generations for Ethiopia more than any Ethiopian would/could do.

Don't judge all of them. But those associating with the English establishment are very bad creatures especially the journalists. Because of the new media, they have no job the way they used to be and most importantly they are no longer relevant. It seems they are getting mad and bad everyday because of the journalism work they have is not relevant and they are too worry about their future. Insulting and accusing others including the English politicians, sex crimes (many bib journalists including today) are exposing their crimes against the children and young girls in the 1960, 70, 80 and so on.

If Ethiopia wants to build her nation based on her way and for long term benefit for all without having the foreign obstacles and trouble makers, she need to stop being trapped by the English so called aid. The aid they are calling is human made weather it is money of product. If the aid is serving the nation, take it and work with them. But, if they are using it to affect the nation especially with secretive agendas and their journalist are coming in the country and spreading lies about, Ethiopia as usual, it worth nothing. There are many nations to work with and benefit together. Even EU wants England out of the union. Why are you so attached with their aid story they are using to maneuver your silly and weak brain which they know it more than you do to yourself.

If Ethiopia able to produce anything useful, there are billions of consumers in China, India, Korea, Japan, Middle East, North Africa and elsewhere to buy it. They are also close to us. Why is Ethiopia having a kind of special closeness with England cheated by aid propaganda or may be with something we the people don't know it. Is it some members having something with them based on personal gain at the nation cost?

Think about it. This is not a solution but otherwise.

To AZ I think your full time job is to accuse ESAT or any other media tells the truth about the situation of Ethiopia and its citizen. I hope they pay you good. ESAT tells us the truth about what is really happening in Ethiopia. Keep the first to comment in this Site for every topic.

Wish,...

Why do you hope they pay me good? Am I supposed to share it with you?
Hey, seriously, why would anybody pay me for my personal comment. I'm just a blogger like you and the rest of the people here who comment their opinion. If you know anybody who pays for my hoby, please feel free to introduce me to that person. I will be happy to get paid, while doing things I like to do.
Do you really support ESAT, the youtube lie macine? I mean, if anybody with their right mind truelly support ESAT, their must be something wrong in their brain. And the amharic saying "ESAT KAYEW MIN LEYEW" fits them verywell, literaly!

Yilma [Visitor], I Agree, a well written argument.

All the ill of the world is due to the European colonizers, in particular..the British and it continues to this day. If you look at China/Hong Kong, Australia, North America, India/Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, and close to home with the Eritrea situation, to name a few, you will see the colonial empire of Great Britain has made the world a conflict zone. Who sells the arms to both sides? They create conflict, they sell their guns, they pretend to be peace keepers.. now a days, they have the BBC promoting terrorist organizations like the OLF/ONLF as freedom fighters while their government trains and arms Tplf Eprdf soldiers. Yap.. even though they do that, I blame the African dictators for allowing this abuse after the colonial era to continue.


Ash [Visitor], Amedamu.. you are poor in IQ, lower than dirt. You are an idiot because fact statements do not mean I like Derg or hate it. Tplf EPrdf/Effort is removing people from their land. A FACT, SWEET AND SIMPLE. Why?

addis zemen [Visitor],
".. I mean, if anybody with their right mind truelly support ESAT, their must be something wrong in their brain.."

**so AZ.. if I were to infer that there is something wrong in your brain for supporting Tplf, I would be correct.. Right?

Ash,

You stupid Idiot, do you know why people pay tax to the government? That is to cover the service,es they get from the government. What do these people get from the government, Squat, Nada, Nothing. So don't just open your Stupid mouth before you understand shit.

Why do these people get help from UK, when is the last time you heard that people of Gambela were starving you moron? It is your CHIGRAM Tigray people are the ones that always are starving because they are lazy bastards.

@HagereEthiopia
You appears rational when you discuss things. However, you are extremist to hate others and upheld yours.

Consider a political organization you are demeaning of OLF and ONLF. This organization has felt problems by themselves or for their regions or their ethnicity. If there was no problem, they wouldn't establish from the beginning.

On similarity, you appears to support G7 who usually uses ESAT. This media is used to (e.g. Abebe Gelew who is a member of G7) against current Ethiopian government. But it appears that you are comfortable with this.

TPLF is also claimed a terrorist ( Abebe Gelew).

The main point is how to all come together to sustain and promote the effort of current gov't. That is where you may discuss without your apparent biased views.

I appreciate your views on continental aspects!

Gashe Mamo:

I disagree with you. I do not think it is poverty this people choose. I think they choose to live just the way nature made them with very little care and worries. They probably do not believe in accumulating wealth ( greed may not be their thing ) Or they think they are not supposed to disturb the earth . I do not know what their reasoning is but what i know is, They seem to be contempt and happy with their life. They never been starved. They share what they have, they sing, they dance, They kept their tradition intact. They never bother anybody. It is their country, their ancestral land, their birth place. I do not think it is fair to remove them and give it to other people. Especially foreigners.

It could have been great if the government has a program which provides them basic skills and farm equipment and put them to work. Rather than give their land to the so cold investors. Or Government should require these investors to train and provide jobs to the local and indigenous people as well as keeping 50% of the produce to local conception.

just a little correction. The word i want to use above was "content "

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@ Tutu, thank you!

I am aware of the situation! Nobody will choose begging and take refugee in other land, unless forced to do so!

My above comment is intended to show how some individuals who throw their support to the current so called" villagesation " program perceive this people.

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HagerEthiopia,

Thank you. You are absolutely right.
These peole from top down to the lowest level cadres are hypocrites.

Yilma,
Good points. You mentioned some of the problems why we are unable to untangle ourselves from them in your last paragrah.

Our leaders are in bed with them. The aid money keeps coming and gets rerouted to banks & investments in the donor country. It all boils down to whether or not we have honest & accountable gov't who put the interests of the country first & foremeost.

Ash,
The less said about your logic the better. you probably try to read beyond you intelligence and become a confused person.

24 January 2013 Last updated at 13:45

"Britons urged to leave Libyan city of Benghazi over 'threat'

British nationals should leave the Libyan city of Benghazi immediately "in response to a specific threat to Westerners", the Foreign Office says."



England and France tried their best for weeks indiscriminately bombing Libya. Yet, they didn't manage even to wound the Gadaffi regime let alone to overthrow it. Then, there was no other choice but the Great USA air force decided the outcome within days after its arrival. There were about 30.000(thirty thousand bombing targets over Libya by the so called west despite USA is not part of Western Europe but North America. The idea of west came in picture during the Second World War to describe east and west Europe, not as we see today the media is talking about it. West has to do only in Western Europe.

First, they were the enemy of Gadaffi. When he agreed to pay 2.5 billion USD for air disaster in Scotland and he gave up his Military ambition, they became his best friends. The English PM Blair even kissed Gadaffi when he led a big business delegation in Libya. Yes, for money they can do anything but not giving for free calling it aid. There must be something attached with it. They worked with gadaffi secretly and collaborated with him tracking and detaining including handing over to him some Libyans that were opposite to him including the leader of the current Libyan Military who was badly tortured and imprisoned in Libya.

When they know, Gadaffi era was over, then they started to work and almost they did by themselves the fight against Gadaffi thinking after Gadaffi, they would be in control in Libya which is oil in their mind. They also knew, the rebels/oppositions were al-qida sympathizers and against democracy in Libya and the world in any form. Islam and democracy seem are the natural enemies. But, the west doesn't care about democracy, human right, rule of law and anything other than their economic benefit at any cost.

But, the Libyan situation after Gadaffi is turned out Libya is now a failed state. Tripoli alone doesn't represent Libya even in Tripoli, there are a number of groups controlling the city under their own rule. Syria will be another Libya, soon. They even didn't care after sadam, when 1.5 million Christians in Iraq vanished because of their religion. They will behave the same thing in other nations, too including Syria, Lebanon and Egypt as long as their benefit is protected. That is why people must not be fool thinking the west mainly England is a Christian nations. They give no shit about it as long as their economy interest is protected. They are sleep and live under the devil rule if their material interest is protected. This is what they are doing in Saudi and the gulf nations.

The point is that they don't care about anything including religion as long as their economic interest in protected. When they know they can get some benefit, they can do anything and they can become anybody else.
Yet, the Ethiopian government thinks aid especially from England would bring any long term benefit for the country that would totally free the nation from foreign independency. They don't get it. There are many nations right now; they could help Ethiopia to achieve that goal in a street and open way with in limited times. But not the English with the foreign journalists they have in Africa/Ethiopia and some bad NGOs that are acting as Gods and playing their dirty games against the innocent citizens.
Russia buys through the Middle men the most quality flowers that are growing in Ethiopia in tropical area 2400-2700 sea levels. Why not selling them directly knowing Ethiopia has a historical long tern relationship and common ground in many fronts. China which is becoming an Industrial nation with 1.4 billion populations will export more than half of her agriculture products. If Ethiopia can produce, there will be the best market for her forever in China and many other nations including the Middle East and north Africa that are importing almost 90% its agricultural products from far away while Ethiopia is too close to them naturally gifted to grow any food item throughout the year. The Ethiopian coffee that is wrongly called Arabica while there is no a single coffee plant in the Arab deserts is now becoming the most known quality coffee in India, China, Japan and many nations.

So, Ethiopia need to free herself from old and brainwashed mentality about the west particularly England. Look how the Libyans are treating them despite England plaid the biggest role to outset Gadaffis and allowed them to get power. Because they know them very well that they didn't do it for the Lybian people but for themselves and they also will not stop there but will affect the current regime as long as they are not getting their interest mainly oil and market.

The western type of aid is not an answer but a tool used by anti development in Africa. No Oxfam. We need no ox to farm but tractors and modern agriculture. Just learn more how many salaries are getting those in Oxfam and other so called NGO in the west. It is the best way to collect money and have life and job for their own not far away in Africa where the people are living with 2 dollar a day. No western type foreign so called aid but trade and working together is the only answer.

Tutu, when u born u cry so loud ur mama said I think he doesn't like it here so doctor can u put him back where he come from... Maybe he like it inside

U can shout, cry or refused to see the light but we going to trun the light onu lie it or not there will be day light soon u like it or not...

Gembella people can not own gembella by themselves and share Ethiopia... If anyone think they can do it by themselves then I say only one word Eritrea... So the gembella people share their land with us and we share our Ethiopia with them...

They like it or not no body own unlimited land.... One gembella have maximum of one hector or ten hector land ( whatever the limit) for one person then the rest of land should be government land .... Just because u born in NY.... U can start owning all the land that sounding u...yes u can own land that u can farm that all if u want extra land then u buy from government and pay tax reguraly....

Since gembella equally belong to every Ethiopian that is a government representing us than that government can give land for investor as see it fit... Ethiopians are the last person to say any thing bad about immigration because we are top ten immigrant people so watch out what u say...

For 3000 years no body did any thing on the land but as soon as the investor come they say how about us... About u? Why u did not do nothing for 3000 years and u still want to do nothing for next 3000 years guess what we will not wake up from ur sleep move over and start sleeping..we are here to work... Sorry for the light we will trun off the light as soon as we finish work so that u can sleep like a cat

The problem in Libya has a lot to do with people's antipathy towards central gov't. It's pretty the same in many Arab countries including Somalia. Their allegiance is to their tribal leaders (Kabila) than the flag - central gov't. Same in Iraq. Suposedely liberated but have since turned aaginst their- for lack of more appropriate term-libearators.

Again you pointed out all the miseries that aid brings to the people.

We need an economy that is less & less dependent on foreign aid.Foreign investment is the way to go. The gov't has been making it possible for FI to flow in for years including the controversial land lease. Without proper accountability and management the benefits would be misappropriated by dishonest and corrupt officials.

To make up for it the gov't has no choice but to seek foreign aid.
The remedies you propose are easier said than done. The big financial institutions are controlled by them. You need int'l credits to run the economy and buy machinary including passenger aircrafts. Russia & China don't provide you with credits. The west do with its long list of conditions. It's not easy. I do share your frustration with west in general.

Blaming the west or Britain for our economic, political, & social malaise is not the way to go. The root of the country's problem lies within its border.
It's like blaming colonialism for all African problems. We need to clean up our house first before we start dealing with these issues.

The hypocrisy of the Ferenjes is no where apparent than the the case of resettlement in Ethiopia. During the Mengistu era, Western journalists accused the Ethiopian regime over inhuman resettlements. Western journalists fried Mengistu over his North-South resettlement. You could tell it was one of the ploys of the C.I.A to demonized the much targeted communist government of Ethiopia. But now, since TPLF is the adopted street beggars installation of the West, all the talk about the resettlement is all but gone. For their fake efforts, however, the West have been rewarded with the much dreaded immigration of Africans and Latinos.

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It is practical to resettle people if, drought strikes, natural disasters like flooding, fire, landslide and uncontrollable events occur. But if the intention is to hand over their ancestral land to an investor, no matter foreign or domestic, it is wrong.

A governments main objective should be to protect the rights of its citizens, not abuse it. Demanding people build or vacate their land, farm or vacate is no way to get support from the people. The Ethiopian governemnt at present is nothing less than a threat for the well being of the people. At the risk of sounding offencive to some, I am under the impression that those who support the governing body benefeit and those who do not are thrown to the wolves. The current Ethiopian government must reforem if it is to be accepted. It must give back the people their rights to express their views, vote and own land with the guarantee they do as they please with it.

Some put blame on the people for the population growth. It should be noted that 80% of the population living in the rural lands, invest in their children for the labor, to work the land. If the economy was beter and these same people were educated on the impact of birth control on their economy and the economies of the nation, the outcome would be different. This governments main focus must be in bringing the people together, controlling the birth rate and making sure people are sharing the nations, political, military, economic and everything else inbetween, EQUALLY. Ethiopia will not grow by the investement of foreign nations but by investing in the ability of the Ethiopian people. Foreign investors will only look for growing their firms, its profitability and they will do anythig to achieve that even corrupt officials while destroying the future productivity of the land.

Yhe Ethiopian government must revisit its land policies as they are very counter productive.

Tutu/Gash Mamo

Look, the modern world wnat to change other third world countries, but the fact of the matter is that, look at today what is happening in the West, people are economically devestated, after all that work, their pension and secuity gone. So the so called TPLF instead of allowing these people in Ethiopia, it just have to look if the population of Westerners today is better. That is your indication that such short term, fas development is detrimental to your well being. Even if West does not have economic problem, they have come to learn that, there are other importinat things to life other than money and gaining superficial things. That is why they are traveling around as tourists to see other traditions and culture. Indeed their way of technology and development is good so it has to balance. In fact since climate change is threate to the world, you need people like indigenous people to balance you out from your destructive ways. Indigenous people all over the world, understand earth well, hat humans must live within their means to sustain mother earth. At the same time, the modern world should continue its innovation and technology, nothing wrong with that, but its addiction now to self satisfation will affect the earth.

Yilma,

your knowledge is amazing, but protect yourself. Historically Ethiopia has good ties with England. Look at it this way, why we see things different than West, our psych is different. They follow the Darwinism, "Survival of the fittest". Their leve of survival is absolute control in order for their race to survive and they beleive they are the cradle of Western Civilization. Let us admit, they have brought technology but that is not to say technology didn't exist before. In todays day and age, still engineers, scietists, architectures don't know how Egyptian pyramid was build in perfect shape of form, and this occured, i don't know thousands of years ago. They have fear of losing, they have fear of disappearing so they must quickly do unto others before this happens to them. This is the psych. They believe they are the last civilization and theere will not be any if earth existed because of nuclear threat. So we are not in their shoes to what they are thining, to be ultimate empire that exists for we don't how long. Past history told us though the empires in the past thought they can exist forever. But today they believe the current empire to exist foreveer because of the sophisticated modern war fare, existance of nuclear, etc. We will see if earth can exist that long, if it can't exist, they can't exist. My point is, there is no mericy if you have the upper hand. Meaning you have to fight tooth and nail to live the best, that is their goal, we don't think that way that is why we get oppressed all the time. Guilt, cheating, lying, etc all these things we believe as immoral is seen in order to survive and to be on top. What happens in the boxing ring? You have to strike before you get striked. Therefore, you are right, we have to get what ever means to be powerful, to be against even those who do us harm, you have to guard yourself against them either by working along with them for the "survival" sake or to defeat them. YOu know the ladder is impossible.

This is also why I go to what Nenew above said, cleaing house first. The antedote against a nation is ourselves. We know outsiders come with threat if the offer they give if you refuse. South America is prime example and I am not sure if they succeeded. But wht we must understand is that in order not to complain about outsiders or leadership, it is up to the people to deal with their differences and work together in unity for the interest of the country not as ethnicity or religion because you will still be vulnerable if you are implementing TPLF type Kilil even disintegrate. So how willing are people to identify their leadership or better yet work together towards one goal and demand from leadership or even have many leadership within a nation for protection of all ward off any foreing aggression? It requires a very committed and long strategy with many many sacrifice including death. But leader in poor countries today prefer their benefit by sacrificing the population seems easy choice for them. I am sure also they get threatened if leaders refuse. What is then the solution? As Nenew said above, try to clear our house in order as much as we can before even getting rid of the elephant in the room. I believe the best strategists were our Emperors up to Haile Selassie. You have to work with any one, even your enemy for best outcome for your country at the same time protecting your country. TPLF may have done right, but because it is naturally anti Ethiopian, it is huring itself right on the foot therefore, giving up too much on the demands of foreigners when it should be equal terms. It is also fantasizing the future where there is nothing guarantee for yourself and hostility increases. If they are hero then you also sacrifice for your country nothing wrong with that.

I came across on website on wellbeing of societies. Thailand's king understood the malicious ways of foreigners land form in a country. One bad sign of a nation is when your see the city filled with rural people displaced to go work in city rather than in rural area. That is a sign when a country is going the wrong direction and he understood that. He said, what ever with such proposal giving rural people job in city where it will be scarce he said, rather the other way around, promote subsidies to rurual families to have small businesses and their own natural farm to grow so in reverse direcetion, from urban to rural, then the country not only will grow since it relied in the past on predominantly on agriculture, it also means giving employment to the people. So he designed a policy to design rural development. Such leaders and even king are pioneers to their people. I am sure you are going to go after HIM. Again HIM was probably much older than him, the location of Ethiopia, even being in Africa is an obstacle, if his children took over, I hope they would take his foot steps in the development the country. HIM tried to do the best he could. Not every country is the same but the sincerety and attempt of leadership should count even though it is sometimes impossible. YOu have to take into account many things. What ever you do, don't develop but don't go after your people like Mengistu and TPLF did. That will never transform society and development. Going after your people is one indication for being located in Africa. The formula is different and but use the time you have as a leader to do the best you can do to your people until your survive rather than against.

from: Ts [Visitor]
@HagereEthiopia
You appears rational when you discuss things. However, you are extremist to hate others and upheld yours.
***Appear? No dear, I am rational.. even if I have to say so myself. We are all extremists when it comes to our country. But I do hope in a good way. If this is about Ash, he/she is an idiot. That is not having an extremist view but stating the fact.

Consider a political organization you are demeaning of OLF and ONLF.
***Consider it considered and not demeaned. It is what it is. OLF, ONLF, TPLF, EPRP, EPLF and all the rest ARE TERRORISTS. Again it is my view others have theirs. But any organization based on breaking up Ethiopia in the name of an ethnic group or resolving political difference by way of indiscriminate murder.. that is a no no my dear.

This organization has felt problems by themselves or for their regions or their ethnicity. If there was no problem, they wouldn't establish from the beginning.
***First of all, TPLF helping Eplf is treason. Secondly TPLF, as its name implies, trying to secede Tigrai is a double treason. Third any other Ethnic group Oromo, Gurage, Amhara etc.., if they organize as a movement based on ethnicity... that is a real no no, dig?

On similarity, you appears to support G7 who usually uses ESAT.
***Never said that. Appear is not worthy of your accusatory statement. Must have facts, you cant just assume Ok? Ask, you shall receive explanation. As for G7, you may want to look for my previous posts/views on it. I said "armed uprising will only replace a dictator with guns, with another who has more guns." I cant say much about ESAT because it is a news program and I say free journalism in all its forms. Get it?

This media is used to (e.g. Abebe Gelew who is a member of G7) against current Ethiopian government. But it appears that you are comfortable with this.
Of course I am comfortable with it. Are you not comfortable with ETV being a mouth piece of Tplf Eprdf? Why go far? I am against the current Ethiopian government. I am free to choose, so is ESAT, AG and anyone else.

TPLF is also claimed a terrorist ( Abebe Gelew).
*** Again, why go far.. I claim TPLF is a terrorist organization.

The main point is how to all come together to sustain and promote the effort of current gov't. That is where you may discuss without your apparent biased views.
*** Yap.. try and discuss anything with the Tplf government.. its jail, torture of kill. They do not discuss the future of Ethiopia but how to steal millions.

I appreciate your views on continental aspects!
*** I thank you.. and I yours. How we handle things differs from blogger to blogger. We like some, we hate some. Nothing personal but yehager guday.

TS, if you are unable to see this ethnic division that may end up in a blood bath, if you turn away from the abuse and the selling of Ethiopian youth to Arabs, if you do not admit to the fact that these Tplf officials came in to power poor and are now billionaires, then you are one of those who keep silent.. as -MLK said, "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
Remember that and look within yourself before you judge others!!!

Hagere Ethiopia,

Well said in response to TS