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It does not matter if Ethiopia or Armenia were the very first. What matters is that Ethiopia is one of the oldest Christian nations on earth & all the first Christian nations on earth are Orthodox Christians.
No Pentecostal clowns can deny the fact that our Orthodox faith is the one, only, the truth! Their branch of diluted form of bogus Christianity were invented by Caucasians to numb & rob people and still spreading strongly backed by powerful Caucasian’s $$. End of.
Yes, Ethiopia is the first christian kingdom on earth. Bless her and her people.
Whether we are the first Christian or the first Islamic nation,. That should be a pride for all Ethiopians.
But let’s not construct this as Ethiopia as a whole being as Christian Nation from day one.
Let’s be clear.The Axum kingdom built around the city of Axum is not Ethiopia as a whole.
Ethiopia as its current borders with its current make up of tribe and religion did not come into existence until 20th century. That is the fact. If anyone thinks otherwise, they need to see their doctor.
Ethiopia is fundementally Christian. And conversly, Christianity is Ethiopian. Islam came to Ethiopia much, much later seeking respite from persecution. This is no new discovery. It is an old fact.
I believe I understand where you are coming from on the boundaries on the kingdom of Axum. History is a very tricky discipline. There are some historians that suggest that Axum at some point in time had even descended as far south as Gambella. When you think of it, if those kings could traverse the red sea and rule over south Arabia, then going further down south to say Moyale is not an impossibility. The main issue is- is there a proof to that. In any case it is my believe that there is much we don’t know about ourselves and knowing that may (or may not) help us to come out of this division we now found ourselves in. Dear friend, if you can get your hand on the following books try to do that and see what they say about Axum and even the time before it. 1. YE Ethiopia 5 shi amet tarik ke Noad eske Ihadeg. 2. The untold histroy of the jewish people and the Ethiopians. They are good reads I think.
Yea right. tell that to Oromo’s, Somalis, Gurages,Afars, Hararis, People of Gemuz, Gambella,Sidama, Walayta,and others who don’t know nothing about Christianity, Specially Orthodox Christian until the Amharas invaded their land.
If we took your logic Ethiopia should be considered a fundamentally, Jewish state since Jewish religion was there much earlier than Christianity in Ethiopia.
You see how flow was your logic?
Where did you read that or how did you come up with the conclusion you come up with?
Like Amu Fikir said there are a lot of things that we don’t know about Ethiopia and people like you and some southern nationalities were told by westerners that they are not Semitic like the northerners and they have been oppressed and Ethiopia history is not their history, which is bull.
During Axumite empire the people who lived there were not Tigray or Tigray speaking. That is one thing most people need to understand. When the Axumite Empire was going down lot of the people fled to the inland of Ethiopia which they had still control over. That is why you see in present day Kenya, Tanzania, Ruwanda, ethnicities that can trace their race to Ethiopia. During Axumite Empire Ethiopias feature were not what you consider now Tigray, Amaraha, Oromo only. There were lot of them Western African looking with big physical features and different physical looks. It is possible what you call Gambela or Sedam or Oromo and other ethnicities might have played a major role in Axumite Empire and because someone clames it is there history doesn’t mean it is not your as well. It might even be your history more than the others and it is you responsibility to claim it. The westerners are master of claiming someone’s history as theirs. With out getting emotional think and try to find out the truth. What Ethiopia was during Axumite empire or after that was a lot different than the current day Ethiopia. At that almost half of Africa was considered to be Ethiopia and Amhara and Tigray people were not the major players at that time because there were no Amhara or Tigray at that time. So, now what we need to find out is who were these people that made the Empire great and that made that history. That is what you and I need to find out. If we cant find out then we all can clam because it is either one of them or all of them have something to do with it and can claim the history. Axumite Empire was not a Tigray Empire and that is what everyone need to understand. When the empire collapsed I am sure the major players left the area, most likely to South and to the inland. Since that is most likely the remained people at Axum were the ones that were not that significant and important. Think about that. If that is the case the people in the south, Oromos, Sidams, etc… probably were the main players of the Axumite Empire.
As Amhara Pincess said in nother current topic, you guys, the hard liner Islamists, are all about encroachment, impostering, fiction and lies. That is before the crack down by the gov. It is a grat point raised by her. You even claim that the early settlers of America were Muslims therefore there is no surprise there. The sad thing is, all your efforts presumably bear no good fruit so why the turmoil, to be another Yemen or Pakistan at best?
Now tell me which one is the fiction?
1. Claiming the whole Ethiopia as being a Christian Nation ruled from Axum from day one.
2. Telling the fact that Ethiopia as we know it now, in its current form is a mixture of different tribes and religions until some people from the north decided to decent to non-christian regions and try to force the locals to assimilate?
No need to jump from Ethiopia all the way to America please . Right now we are talking about Ethiopia.
If you don’t have the facts or don’t know a lot about Ethiopia then say you don’t know. That is ok. But don’t claim that the Christians used to rule from Axum to South Africa or something like that?
Just remember any where the Orthodox pee on or build a church on like in Kulubi is not a Christian territory. Don’t twist history to fit your own claim.
Whether first of this or that we should care less about fiction and myths flawing around for the last couple thousand years and Ethiopia has solid prove for every thing more than anyone imagine.By the way we respect your all believe.
Dear Seattle and all others
This is my second time to leave a comment on Nazret. But I usually go through most of the comments. It is good that we try to discuss and argue about issues that concern us. But what I find horrendous is the language some of us use, the hatred that lurks behind our language. So Dear brothers and sisters, please let us try to use decent words and at the same time have an ear to listen to other sides as well. I have travelled and worked with people from different nations. From my experience what I found most striking is the commonalities I was able to discern in people one might regard utterly different. It all depends on what you wish to see.
That said, when it comes to history, I believe most (or some) of us Ethiopians have lost the purpose of knowing history. I believe the aim of history is to learn from both accomplishments and mistakes done in the past, identify issues we need to correct and rectify and map out a future better than the past. But what saddens me is our focus on taking out the wrongs and constantly arguing over them, while at the same time feeling our heart with hate and failing to take lessons from the past. It is good for us to treat history as such- something out of which we can take lessons, rectify the mistakes of our ancestors, build up on their attributes and focus on our common factors (Is there any one who does not take pride on the victory of Adwa? The entire black race does, how much more the Ethiopians- this is an example of such common factors)
Provoked by the late prime minister Meles’s earlier remark on the lack of relation between Axum and the Gurage, Lalibela and the Oromo etc, Dr. Fikre Tolossa conducted a research of his own and came up with the following article trying to show that indeed the Gurage, the Oromo, the Somali etc has everything to do with Axum or Lalibela etc. I understand that his claims can be pending verification. But his attempt was a grand motive to find the common factors that glue us together as Ethipians, as a nation. But then I was horrified by some of the comments that people wrote failing to discern his noble motive of focussing on our commonalities.
Anyways have a look at the article.
@ Amhara Princess,
There is nothing written about orthodox,protestant or catholic in the bible. All divisions are made by people.Do not feel you have the best and old religion.For God what matters is to obey his words and live accordingly.Try to evaluate yourself.Do not judge others.You are just fake!
Seatle the talliban from torra borra,…
Very intersting! You’re trying to change Ethiopian history too! Wow, you stupid terrorist, you even have the audacity to deny Ethiopia’s known 5000 years history to accommodate your muslim fanatic theory!
What’s new? Next story by muslim extrimist like you will be, mohamed is an Ethiopian, islam came to Ethiopia before christainism, bla bla..
If it is to glorify terrorism, you’re allowd to lie through your ass. Don’t forget to wash your ass anyway!
The current Pentecostal church format descended from USA Negroid traditional gospel church. So, our confused Pentes think they are civilized by joining nigga club.
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