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01/30/13

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Ethiopia: Beyond Ideology: The Betrayed Task of Ethiopian Intellectuals

Dr. Messay Kebede is an Ethiopian Professor of Philosophy at the University of Dayton. He taught philosophy at Addis Ababa University from 1976 to 1993. He also served as chair of the department of philosophy from 1980 to 1991. He earned his Ph.D. from University of Grenoble, France

Beyond Ideology: The Betrayed Task of Ethiopian Intellectuals

By Messay Kebede

This article is not a rejoinder to Prof. Alemayehu G Mariam’s recently posted article titled “Ethiopia: The Irresponsibility of the Privileged.” Alemayehu’s article is well-thought-out and accurate in its analysis of the shortcomings of Ethiopian intellectuals. The apparent indifference of many Ethiopian intellectuals to the plight of the Ethiopian people and to the lack of democratic governance or their veiled support to a tyrannical government, mostly because of ethnic affiliations, is indeed appalling. Rather than a retort, this article is a complementary contribution with an eye to discerning the root of the derailment of Ethiopian intellectuals.

Besides indifferent or sold intellectuals, Ethiopia has produced a virulent type of radical intellectuals who are directly or indirectly responsible for the prevalence of tyranny in Ethiopia since the fall of the monarchical system. I am not saying that tyranny started with the collapse of the imperial rule, but that the imperial autocracy was replaced by a more vicious and destructive type of tyranny, characteristically defined by the commitment to a clean slate or tabula rasa ideology. The typical ethos of the ideology is to indiscriminately denigrate whatever has been bequeathed by the past so that the country must be rebuilt anew. Whether we take Leninist type of socialisms or the various versions of ethnonationalism, they share the belief that the first condition of real change is the merciless destruction of inherited features.

Those who are familiar with my book, Radicalism and Cultural Dislocation in Ethiopia, know that I trace this clean slate ideology to the colonialist overtones of modern education in Ethiopia. What else is the indiscriminate assault on tradition but the product of the internalization of the colonial discourse by uprooted native intellectuals? Colonial discourse and policy called for the eradication of native traditions, judged primitive, and pushed for the subservient copying of the Western model of modernity. A cursory examination is enough to see how closely the modern system of education in Ethiopia was and still is framed to inculcate uprootedness and colonial mimicry. As a result, a significant number of Ethiopian intellectuals (this writer included) became in the 60s and 70s, not the defenders, but the gravediggers of Ethiopia’s history and legacy by creating radical movements championing the clean slate ideology, be it through Leninist versions of socialism or outright ethnonationalism. Unfortunately, their undoings still define today’s Ethiopia and constitute a major obstacle for democratic government and modernization.

This is not to say that social radicalism should be banned in favor of one category of intellectual. As in any other social question, prudence should avoid one-sidedness and promote diversity. It is much healthier for Ethiopia to produce various types of intellectuals, ranging from conservatives and reformists to radicals. The democratic process itself, to the extent that it is genuine, requires and produces various types of intellectuals. Even so, the type practicing indifference or insincerity should be denounced. For, the role of intellectuals is to tell and argue in favor of what they believe to be true, that is, what they have established as “true” through an intellectual procedure of research and validation. What is sane for democracy and progress is not the triumph of one view, but the open and dynamic debate between competing perspectives.

In my view, the type of intellectuals that is most needed in today’s Ethiopia is the type that transcends classes and ethnic groups and defines a national mission for the country that is both comprehensive and galvanizing. Traditionally (what follows is taken from my published paper titled “Return to the Source: Asres Yenesew and the West”), Orthodox Church intellectuals, often known as debteras, played this role. Indeed, according to Asres Yenesew––a leading scholar of the Ethiopian Church during the imperial rule––traditional intellectuals were the scouts or the outposts of Ethiopian society; as such, their role was to scrutinize the surrounding world so as to safeguard its national mission and identity. What defines them is thus their national function, which compels them to rise above factions and special interests. While kings rule, warriors fight, peasants produce, priests pray, intellectuals reflect on what is good and bad. They represent the small but advanced garrison protecting the society from malefic and dissolving internal and external forces.

After highlighting the traditional role of intellectuals, Asres deals with what he considers as the greatest betrayal in Ethiopia’s long history, to wit, the transformation of the Westernized Ethiopian intellectual into an ally of the colonization of Ethiopia. In a highly provocative statement, he declares: “although Italy’s army was driven out, its politics was not.” In other words, the military defeat of the colonizer has not ended the colonial project; it has simply compelled Westerners to use subtler means. Chief among such means is modern schooling. That is why they were so eager to open schools and send teachers in Ethiopia. What better means was there for realizing their colonial project than the propagation of their books and the creation of a Westernized Ethiopian elite?

For Asres, Ethiopia faces the gravest danger of its long history since modern native intellectuals, whose task is to provide protection, now side with the enemy by becoming the instrument of colonization, When the patrols of the society turn into deserters, its defensive capacity is utterly shattered. This ominous transformation fully materialized when the guardians of tradition turned into its critics under the instigation of Western teachers and books. Asres unravels the insidious method used to effect the transformation. To change intellectuals into turncoats, Western education had first to denationalize their mind by encouraging “individualism and social ambition.” In thus isolating them from the rest of the community and inducing frustration over their place in the social hierarchy, Western teachers changed them into rebels and revolutionaries.

In light of the deep predicament in which Ethiopia is immersed, mere political activism and elections are not enough to salvage the country. Hence my belief that the kind of intellectual change that Ethiopia needs is the kind that assumes the role of the traditional intellectual but by modernizing it. Freed from the clean slate ideology which, to paraphrase Asres, is just the continuation by natives of the colonial ideology, the modernization of the traditional intellectual redefines the national mission of Ethiopia in accordance with the requirements of modernity and the religious and ethnic characteristics of today’s Ethiopia.

Rather than partisanship, reborn intellectuals draw a comprehensive vision that is renovating and galvanizing because, going beyond group and individual interests, the vision provides a supreme national goal, thereby mobilizing the sense of duty and the power of emotion. Such a vision preserves and changes at the same time; it alone is capable of inspiring social and political reforms that are born of the Ethiopian soil and that elevate Ethiopians from copyists to designers and agents of their own modernity. In short, what is needed is a modernized and integrative new Kibre Negest, the very one that creates a nation, that is, an object of love, and not merely of interest.
Let us rethnink Ernest Renan’s famous definition: “A nation is a soul, a spiritual principle. Two things, which in truth are but one, constitute this soul or spiritual principle. One lies in the past, one in the present. One is the possession in common of a rich legacy of memories; the other is present-day consent, the desire to live together, the will to perpetuate the value of the heritage that one has received in an undivided form. . . .The nation, like the individual, is the culmination of a long past of endeavors, sacrifice, and devotion. . . . To have common glories in the past and to have a common will in the present; to have performed great deeds together, to wish to perform still more–these are the essential conditions for being a people. . . One loves in proportion to the sacrifices to which one has consented, and in proportion to the ills that one has suffered. One loves the house that one has built and that one has handed down. . . . Man is a slave neither of his race nor his language, nor of his religion, nor of the course of rivers nor of the direction taken by mountain chains. A large aggregate of men, healthy in mind and warm of heart, creates the kind of moral conscience which we call a nation.”

Nation is love, history, forgiveness; it transcends race and language and is commitment to unity in greatness. Is not the above definition absolutely contrary to the path taken by Ethiopian intellectuals since the 60s? Instead of love, history, forgiveness, and unity, we have division, tabula rasa ideology, resentment; instead of transcending race and language and working for greatness, we are mutilated by ethnnationalism and sectarian meanness.

60 comments

Comment from: Ahun [Visitor]
Ahun

Just sit in your big butt, and talk…leflafi…

P.S Please have someone change your four year old shirt and get them to dress you up with adult suit. (Well..what does that matter? It will be an empty suit, anyway)

01/30/13 @ 20:25
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

Ahun, and not AZ.. interesting. Why make this about the dude or his shirt? Did you read his article or are you just pulling an AZ here?

It is a very nicely written piece. It speaks the truth about where we are today in that long journey starting out in the early seventies. It is a fact now we are ethnically divided more than ever when compared to the previous two administrations. Did you get that point at all Ahun? or should I say AZ asmesay?

01/30/13 @ 21:53
Comment from: jazzman [Visitor]
jazzman

If you really want to know how the dear prof. is rated…and what he preaches ….check out “Rate my professors".com

01/30/13 @ 22:22
Comment from: flulu [Visitor]
flulu

This is guy is the most appaling person . uncharismatic , boring . it is so clear that his articles are written with the aid of therasaus . I can’t even stand to read one paragraph of his article .
Most surprised how a guy who is deadly boring with no speaking skill is able to teach in an americal university . it must be the racial quota thing otherwise there is no way this guy is capapble to teaching in a big americal institution /

01/30/13 @ 22:51
Comment from: Below [Visitor]
Below

@ Flulu: When are you going to back to English language school? I highly recommend you not to waste anymore time hence your life!

@ Ahun: Very childish! I apologize to read your comment!

@ Pro. Kebede: Thank you so much what a wonderful insight! thank you!

01/30/13 @ 23:51
Comment from: sf [Visitor]
sf

To: @jazzman [visitor], @flulu [visitor], @ahun [visitor]
Here again Woyanne Cadres in mass with other type of assignment.
Their mission and assignment are only to discredit an individual ability with no argument.
This is what we call character assassination, and how miserable they are. [Vagabonds]

01/31/13 @ 01:11
Comment from: Tilahun [Visitor]
Tilahun

This was a very insightful article, and I believe if all Ethiopians took heed to this message, our nation will progress with celerity. Like the professor emphasized, we need to get rid of the “clean-slate” ideology, not just with the intellectuals, but within our person relationships and with our communities as well. We need to be designers and not merely facsimileing imitators.

01/31/13 @ 02:10
Comment from: Eyoail [Visitor]
Eyoail

I think this is the best article I read in a long time. It clearly identifies the problem we Ethiopians are facing currently. The Western or Eastern ideology has infected and corrupted our intellectuals and society since the fall of our monarchy. Development and education should not always compromise our culture, history and heritage rather it should embrace it just like the way Japan has managed to do it. Orthodox Church has contributed significantly to the establishment of Ethiopia so as our rich royal heritage and we should incorporate this and our culture to the making of the future Ethiopia like Teddy Afro said ” yehualawo kelel yefitu yelem” LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA

01/31/13 @ 02:13
Comment from: Heny [Visitor]
Heny

yihe tekateko fit, minargu new yemilen. Tekateko muz (banana) keborsaw aytefam neber alu when he was in AAU!? Thus this tekateko left on his face

01/31/13 @ 03:32
Comment from: Bante Yihunilegn [Visitor]
Bante Yihunilegn

The so called intellectuals are not really intellectuals in the real sense of the term, particularly in the context Ethiopia. Mr. Mesay Kebede must be talking about the likes of professors who discriminate against their students on the basis of ethnicity at the Addis Ababa University…whose intellectualism does not transcent ethnicity! Do you know that Hutu professors massacred their Tutsi students in Rwanda during the genocide period? My argument is that “intellectuals” should have NO place, whatsoever, in the Ethiopian history!
Ethiopia Know This: There are some segment of the large Ethiopian population who are the most vocal and who will never stop barking (often in the name of Ethiopianism, intellectualism) unless they assume power (which was given a permanent full stop to with the fall of the Dergue regime).
Bante Yihunilegn
Addis Ababa

01/31/13 @ 03:35
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

This article is very great.

The Author acknowledged the use of knowledge for bads or goods. He indicated there is tyranny governmental systems in the Country that challenges the Unity of citizens because the country is divided by ethnicity, language and religions. He indicated that education by itself should be diversified because all disciplines have their own contributions.

He reminded that traditionally Orthodox Church has kept the national unity and mission, but he indicated as Western educational inputs criticized this tradition, weaken social systems, organized rebels and finally caused revolution.

He pointed out, now, enemy has paved way to colonize the country because there is no spirit of national mission. He cautioned political activism and elections shortfall to rescue the country.

He recommended that to bring real change, first it is necessary to dismantle the inherited culture. To do this, he suggested to modernize the native tradition ” sectarian meanness” by giving due credit to the exists religions and ethnicity. Finally, he stated that this approach will bring social and political reforms.

My view is almost the same as the author approach. But it is very difficult to state that the country has, now, a tyrant government though it is impossible to see that it is totally democratic, but it is very much better. Yes, it is better to appreciated the existence of multiculture: religions, languages, and ethnicity composition. The administrative systems in the local perspective doesn’t has much problems except bisadness towards TPLF. However, the Country is exposed to international shocks!!!

To save the Country, at local level, it is better to praise who do more economic activity. It is better not to prevent others who want to preach any religions or none at all, it is better not to block others language and culture as all those freedom should be given as anyone wants to see his/her excellence. Then, the national mission is a collection of diversity.

01/31/13 @ 04:22
Comment from: Lemma Wonde [Visitor]
Lemma Wonde

Professoe Messaye is a big fraud.He was a Maoist and a comrade of the late Haile Fida/Meisone. He then joined the Derg and in the university he was teaching,not Ethiopian arts and culture, but Marxism Leninism.He attacks past intellectuals while he has never admitted his follies and mistakes. A fake and a hypocrite that is what you are.

01/31/13 @ 06:47
Comment from: addiszemen [Member]  

Hagereethiopia wanna be,….

Remember the analogy of that wild teenage girl back in highschool. She also misses you whenever you don’t show up. HE, I’m afraid that fits you like a glove.
To come up to the above article and the author himself, it is a typical dergue sympathizer like you which would enjoy. As a matter of fact, this guy Messay has been a philosophy teacher at AAU since the ABIYOT FINDATTA. What does that tell you? He’s a die hard communist who is specialized in a communist manifesto. Judging by your reply and everyday cry, one can conclude that you’re his deciple. “Denbegna ye mesay girffe abiyot tebaqi cadre". No wonder why you keep worshiping menge and his regime.

01/31/13 @ 07:06
Comment from: Nenewe [Visitor]
Nenewe

Ahun ,jazzman,flulu, Lemma Wonde & heny-testa di gallina,

You are all too stupid & thick to read & understand. No one expects you to be respectful and civilized because this is how you serve your masters.Woyanes don’t like you to know & dig. You may start asking question they don’t have answers for.

AZ,
he might be a communist sympathiser then. As a late comer to Woyane’s fold you may know that Woyanes were communists more than Derg had ever been. They worship not only the known three but Joe Stalin too, get it, of all people him. They still belive in one party rule & mixed economy - Chinese style of communism.

This might as well be too much for you, too.

Btw, can you please tell your underlings above how worthless they are by quoting that famous quote you misused:
“Don’t argue with an idiot… with experience.
Thank you

01/31/13 @ 07:59
Comment from: Maitu Yilma [Visitor]
Maitu Yilma

Prof. You are coming back to your senses. This is a good piece. You are right what we need is Lova, Forgivenss and MECHACHAL and respect for each other. Though we are together we are gravely divided. May God Bless Ethiopia and its Nations.

01/31/13 @ 09:23
Comment from: Azeb [Visitor]
Azeb

Here is an interesting post I read in Ethiopian Recycler two years ago.
http://etrecycler.blogspot.com/2010/10/intellectuals.html

01/31/13 @ 09:53
Comment from: Belay@yahoo.com [Visitor]
Belay@yahoo.com

the three stooges, Pr.Alemayew, Messay and Yilma are on over dirve these days. in my opinion none of them may be except pr Al, care for the people of ethiopia. but they sure hate the government and the people of tigray in general, at least as long as tplf/eprdf is in power.

01/31/13 @ 10:34
Comment from: Mike M [Visitor]
Mike M

Dr. Mesay laments about our lost heritage and the great virtues of our collective past. He blames the generation of Ethiopians that help transform the imperial system for all the ills that we have endured for the last three decades. He paints them as savages who ransacked the heritage by bringing an ideology that calls for a ‘new beginning’ by annihilating the past. What he characterizes as our great legacy of the past is nothing more than one among the many competing interpretations of our collective history. He glorifies the past in absolute terms. He is entitled to his interpretations but the problem with his approach is that he leaves no room for any dissenting interpretations of the same era. His many writings on the same subject do not allow for variations. He demonizes the generation of Ethiopians who participated, led, and sacrificed so much during the popular movements of the 1970s. Rather than attempting to bring the survivors of these movements to productive dialogue and perhaps help chart the path to a better country, he intimidates them into submitting to his singular view of history.

01/31/13 @ 11:27
Comment from: ETHIO.VISTOR [Visitor]
ETHIO.VISTOR

heny

YES HE WAS @ AA
Before the begger TIGRES invaded addis and shitting on the roads.

01/31/13 @ 11:51
Comment from: Haile [Visitor]
Haile

Professor Messai raises existential issues that are important to Ethiopia as a nation and to Ethiopian intellectuals.

The name calling and character assassination by semi-literate TPLF foot soldiers is coming from a group that suffers profound inferiority complex. It is diversionary and short-sighted.

I may not agree with many of Professor Messai’s core arguments, but I appreciate the originality of his thinking and approach. I believe there is much that is right with a generation of Ethiopian intellectuals that sacrificed all to see a better society.

Ours is a traumatized nation; a trauma made worse by the ascendance to power of dim-witted, narrow-minded, tribal tyrants.

Professor Messai has introduced original ideas. Others need to follow his path by joining the debate with candor and a rigorous presentation of our past and present

01/31/13 @ 12:22
Comment from: korat [Visitor]
korat

It is all in our blood sir. We do not realize it leaves generations behind poverty if we continue this way. Let us think about stopping sadness and hopelessness fellow Ethiopians!! Please!

01/31/13 @ 12:29
Comment from: werner2010 [Visitor]
werner2010

@Haile
the professor has no moral ground to lecture any Ethiopian intellectual in any subject. You may not know it, but he was Marxist Leninist phlilosophy lecturer at Addis University for almost two Derg decades, and there have been several very promising young people that were forced to drop out because of him. He never ever mentiones this dark part of his biography, except a grayed reference stating “He taught philosophy at Addis Ababa University from 1976 to 1993.” He was bloody marxist during the darkest period in our latest history, and he gave the ideological framework for the butchers of the red terror campaign.

01/31/13 @ 12:39
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

AZ,

Analogy eh? Well.. analogize this bro. TPLF is the biggest Communist of them all. This guy may be a Dergist but the article is a view point I happen to agree with. That, dickwad, does not make me a Communist nor a Dergist. By the way, Derg is not a dirty word. It is just like when we talk about what you traitors are doing to Ethiopian unity, you cry out.. Amhara Neftegna.. Dergist bla bla. Derg was a butcher, never the less a pure Ethiopian force based on unity and not ethnic division like Tplf Eprdf. If at the time of war with Eplf some of you Tplf thugs got in the way and got cleaned out, don’t blame the Derg but your own stupid ass because today, you are right back where the Derg was back then concerning shabia. Hence the usage of the verse “Derg is More TRUE Ethiopian than TPLF.” A statement of fact and not taking sides or sympathizing, boy. When one states facts it is not worship or sympathy.. it may do you good to learn that AZ.

addis zemen [Visitor]
Hagereethiopia wanna be,….
*** No No No.. no wanna be here ante denkoro. I’m the real deal&#59;)

You said,
“As a matter of fact, this guy Messay has been a philosophy teacher at AAU since the ABIYOT FINDATTA. What does that tell you?..”

It tells me he was a Philosophy professor at AAU. That is what it tells me. Being that, does not make him any less qualified to give his input. Just because he was a Dergist does not make this man any less Ethiopian than your Tplf shitheads, does it now?

Then you continued with your idiocy..
“.. He’s a die hard communist who is specialized in a communist manifesto. Judging by your reply and everyday cry, one can conclude that you’re his deciple. “Denbegna ye mesay girffe abiyot tebaqi cadre". No wonder why you keep worshiping menge and his regime..”

Again, you know Meles/Tplf is equally if not more of a communist than this dude. It is not a crime to have a preference to ideology. He is a Communist, so was Meles till opportunity came knocking with dollar signs.. So, based on the above you are a Communist disciple of Meles the dead Zenawi the traitor. Which makes you and all supporters traitors too. Right?

Az, you know all that is just bull. You know it is time to fix this hate Tplf/Meles has put upon the Ethiopian masses. It is good advice, heed it. If not you will see bloodshed like you have never seen before. Divide and rule always backfires and ethnic hate is the worst kind as proven repeatedly, in Eiro Asia, India, Rwanda etc…

Check this out.. An Argument Against Ethnic Federalism in Nepal..

http://shiwanineupane.blogspot.com/2012/06/argument-against-ethnic-federalism-in.html

My only concern going forward is, we need to come together as a nation and not as ethnic groups. It is dangerous.. that dear boy, is what the article is about.

01/31/13 @ 13:33
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

For all Woyanes…

In this article it is easy to draw a parallel.. Ethnic Federalism is a racist divide and rule system coined by the colonial powers, mainly the British. Where the British has been, conflict follows… Eritrea, Somalia for instance..

http://shiwanineupane.blogspot.com/2012/06/argument-against-ethnic-federalism-in.html
An Argument Against Ethnic Federalism in Nepal

When the debate about federalism started in Nepal, I was for it! Why not, I thought? If our country is divided into self-governing states, there would be development outside Kathmandu, and a lot of people would escape poverty and forced migration. Perhaps, our hardworking Nepali men and women would return from the terrible work conditions in the middle east and be proud of their passports. Federalism also seemed like a great idea for increased competition among states and governing bodies, which would perhaps lead our government to function, better. After all, if the development of Lumbini happens faster than the district Kathmandu falls under, the ministers in Kathmandu are bound to feel some pressure. This would also help people filter ministers and local parties.

However, when federalism became mashed with ethnic federalism, I was conflicted. Nepal is a small country, but we have many divisions sowed into the history of our country’s existence. I remember learning about Prithvi Narayan Shah sometime during school, and how he reunited Nepal that was scattered to small states. If it hadn’t been for him, we would probably be a part of India or China right now; most probably India because of our open borders and the British policy of divide and rule, where they pleased countless small kings and statesmen, eventually taking control of a nation, also naming it India. The entire landmsss had different names before, but the British divisions and colonial exploits led to the map of the India that we see today in Atlas’.

Enough digression! What I am trying to get at here is that if it hadn’t been for our unity in the first place, we probably wouldn’t have existed as a nation. Is it really that easy to overlook such a simple fact today just because we don’t support monarchy? We might not agree to monarchy, but do we not agree to the existence of our nation either? I have many problems with ethnic federalism, and writing this article is simply a means to justify and understand my own frustration.

Let me begin with a few questions.

Which country has succeeded with ethnic federalism? We could use India as an example but history clearly states that the British used the policy of divide and rule, which guaranteed that they always remained in power. While it might work reasonably well in the present context, is it because the “them” versus “us” talk is more focused on religion. In India, the dichotomy rests mainly between the Hindus and the Muslims, whereas in Nepal the “them” versus “us” rhetoric takes place in the divisions of castes and ethnicities. Each major caste/ethnicity has prejudices against another. The “madhesi’s” are referred to as “dhotis”, the bahuns as “chors” who have ruined our country, and so on. If we divide this country by ethnicities, aren’t we sowing deeper on the emotions of “us” and “them” instead using the rhetoric of “us”. Perhaps, respect and dignity begins at the ground level when we educate our children at home. If we teach children to stop discriminating against each other, stop using derogatory words, there would be greater unity and peace, and perhaps the harmony that all of us want in Nepal.

Going further into history, what about the example of Bosnia and Rwanda. Have we forgotten the genocide and ethnic cleansing in both these countries? Both wars happened as a result of ethnic conflicts, and the sights aren’t pretty even today. My fear with ethnic federalism is that it will lead to a backlash. Once the states are divided by ethnicities, what guarantee is there that other ethnic groups can live in the same place in peace? Also, a friend of mine recently pointed towards another danger - of favoritism. When a particular ethnic group runs local bodies, wouldn’t they favor the same ethic group to take over and run business, politics and society for that matter? My friend gave me an example of Nigeria where Muslim Nigerians and Christian Nigerians are still struggling with such divisions.

One could also argue that this is already happening today at a national level where bahun and chettri communities are running the country. I have no-doubt about it, but to end this cycle we have the quota system where a percentage of seats are reserved just for the minorities. That is not to say that minorities cannot run for other seats; they just have an increased advantage and a guarantee because of this system. However, their inclusion also needs to happen on an economic and educational level. Breaking a country by ethnic states doesn’t guarantee any of that. It only gives an elitist group within the same minority groups further power, whereas, integrating quotas in our education and empowerment programs may break the cycle. To truly integrate them, perhaps introduce quotas in universities and schools (especially private schools), while focusing on empowerment activities for the minorities.

I am also worried about ethnic federalism because this seems like a Maoist strategy to keep their powers and win the next elections- “satta kabza” as they say in Nepali. Here, I see an eerie resemblance to British colonial politics, where the policy of divide and rule created situations where people fought against each other constantly. The British government set states against each other, by creating distrust and enmity between local leaders. Even today, India and Pakistan are known as sworn enemies because of the land dispute over Kashmir. The British intentionally created a map for both countries with Kashmir inside their borders. Segregation of nations by religion also led to expelling of Muslims from India and Hindu’s from Pakistan. Hundreds and thousands lost their ancestral homes and were forced to settle in new territory where they re-created their identities. Ethnicity is as dangerous as religion, especially when racism runs so deep in our country. My question is, isn’t the Maobadi doing exactly what the British did? By giving out ethnic states, they become “hero’s” to the state leaders, who will guarantee they win in the next elections. It is not just leaders; even minority groups will give them votes. I also see this as a means to erase “memory”. The civil war where more than 13000 people died is a recent part of Nepali history. The scary part is that amid all this talk about ethnic federalism, minority groups are compelled to overlook a war that not just led to thousands of deaths, but massive human right violations.

Even if you do separate the country by ethnic groups, what guarantee do you have that people wont ask for further divisions. As far as I know, division runs deep within castes and ethnicities. There are literally types of Brahmins- higher and lower, along with types of Newars. Also, if you divide the country into 10 or 12 states by their ethnicities, what about the rest of the groups? We don’t have just 10-12 ethnic groups in this country. According to a 2001 census, we have 102 castes and ethnic groups! (couldn’t find a more recent census)

My next big concern is strictly an economic one. What is going to happen to the supply of food/ materials when you create ethnic borders? Aren’t people without a border with India going to suffer the most? Aren’t industries going to suffer because of further taxation and new border policies? How is the domestic economy going to compete with the international market? Also, those ethnic states with borders touching India are going to benefit the most economically, while the rest will be left in jeopardy. Another question I have is that: one day when the bahun’s and chettri’s become a minority in Nepal, which is very likely, and the influx of Indian immigrants ask for Nepal to be integrated to India, would we agree to that too?

I also want to make it clear that I am not against giving ethnic groups indigenous recognition. Yes, every minority group should get equal rights (obviously!!) but I don’t think ethnic federalism is the right way to go about it. Ethnic Federalism isolates a large group of people; a majority of castes and ethnicities that are going to be further alienated if such an 11 state or a 13 state model based on ethnicity is established. I also understand the idea of “preservation of culture” but don’t think forcing people to celebrate festivals and be a part of an identity through ethnic federalism is the right way to go about it. In fact, I see it as an infringement to people’s private spaces and the whole idea seems rather un-democratic. The promotion of cultural activities can be done in non-ethnic based states as well. Everyone is free to do musicals, dances, food-festivals etc. I am in fact very very proud of the diversity in our country.

01/31/13 @ 13:42
Comment from: addiszemen [Member]  

Hagereethiopia wanna be,….

Wow! What an asshole! Are you trying to justify dergue’s brutallity by telling me dergue was a butcher but based on unity. Are you justifying the death of your parents and relatives you claimed on the hands of the death machine dergue as your relatives being anti unity. How stupid can you be dude?

01/31/13 @ 14:03
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Member]  
Assta B. Gettu

I was born, grew up, educated, and enjoyed life in that life-giving country of mine and yours, Ethiopia.

My understanding of traditional and modern intellectuals may be a little bit different from Dr. Messay Kebede’s article I admire fully and appreciate the author sincerely for raising the overlooked traditional intellectuals. Since most people are very familiar with modern intellectuals but less familiar with the Ethiopian traditional intellectuals, I will simply give my views about the Ethiopian traditional intellectuals.

Of course, the main cradle of these traditional intellectuals is the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in whose spiritual guidance, secular, and religious education thousands of large-minded traditional intellectuals from all sections of the country burgeoned and flourished, and they had been the megahits of their times for centuries.

These highly educated and well-disciplined traditional intellectuals got their educations from various traditional Church schools where ethnicity, nationality, and tribalism didn’t exist at all. When a new student entered a new traditional school for the first time, no one was bothered to ask the new student from where he was coming and to which Church he belonged. Immediately, some of those students who had been in that particular school would bring water to wash the new student’s feet. They would call him “ayewa,” or “ehuye,” which means my friend. Throughout the years and until they left their school and moved to another Church school, traditional students were very friendly, humble, and respectful to one another.

When they finished their education, some of them would serve in the Church as deacons, priests, memhirs [teachers], preachers, debteras [singers], monks, bishops, archbishops, painters, writers, copyists, emendators, engineers, lawyers, judges, and calendar interpreters [Bahire-hassab]. And still some of them would work in the government as advisors, cabinet members, Kebre-Negest and Fetha-Negest specialists.

Without denying the immense contributions of these traditional intellectuals to their country and to their people as a whole, we should not forget there are two types of traditional intellectuals: High Level Traditional Intellectuals and Low Level Traditional Intellectuals.

Who are the High Level Traditional Intellectuals?

The High Level Traditional Intellectuals are those people who spend most of their time discussing about the political issues of that particular period, trying to bring some changes to the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church and to the entire country. For example, ሊቀጠበብት አክሊለ ብርሃን, መልአከ ሰላም ሳሙኤል ተረፈ, ዶክተር ጌታቸው ኃይሌ, አለቃ እንባቆም, ሊቀሥልጣናት ሐብተ ማርያም ወርቅነህ፤ፖትርያርክ ቴዎፍሎስ, and many other High Level Traditional Intellectuals worked very hard to bring something new to the Church and to the country. Some of these high level traditional intellectuals are not with us today; they have passed away long time ago, but they had left the name of their impressive movement such as “Tehadiso” with us, and it is up to us to bring their dreams into reality. Who can forget the fiery speech መልአከ ሰላም ሳሙኤል ተረፈ delivered in Addis Ababa against the Egyptian Coptic Church that claimed the ownership of the Ethiopian Deir al-Sultan Monastery in Jerusalem? And who can forget the poetry of አለቃ እንባቆም, in Geez language, against the government of Somalia, and who told us that Somalia belonged to Ethiopia. He said that the name “Mogadishu,” meant “mekdese-Mariam,” i.e. the sanctuary of St. Mary. These were indeed high level traditional intellectuals who served the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church and their secular government in various areas. Among these High Level Traditional Intellectuals, we must remember Abune Petros, who gave his life for his country, and we should also remember Aba Fekade Selassie who was gun downed in Addis Ababa while he was preaching.

Who are the Low Level Traditional Intellectuals?

These Low Level Traditional Intellectuals are also highly educated, but they prefer living in isolation to mixing themselves with the outside world. They spend their precious time in praying, fasting, conducting liturgy, blessing, and administering the Eucharist. Most of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church deacons, priests, Memhirs, debteras, nuns, and monks belong to the low level traditional intellectuals. Among these low level traditional intellectuals, the Debteras are a little bit different, a little bit shrewd, and more disrespectful of the priests, the deacons, the bishops, and the archbishops. The Debteras, most of the time, consider themselves the highly educated ones, more educated than the priests and the bishops. On the other hand, the priests, the deacons, and the monks consider the Debteras witchcrafts, sorcerers, magicians, and laypeople with no ordination.

I can name hundreds of highly-educated-Low Level Traditional Intellectuals such as Abune Michael of Amba-Gishen-Mariam, Wollo province; Aleka Yukuno Amlak of Addis Ababa; Woizero Gedamnesh of Gojam; Dr. Aleka Ayele of Gondar; Dr. Sirgew Hable-Selassie of Addis Ababa; Memhir Wolde-Giorgis of Axum, Tigray; just to mention a few.

All these high or low level traditional intellectuals are our indispensable heritages: Without them, Ethiopia could have been a country without history, without its own alphabet, without its own calendar, without its own architect, without its own calligraphy, without its own form of government, without its own flag, without its own religion, culture, custom, and historical tradition. We should respect our traditional intellectuals, and we should not be deceived by the glamour or superficialities of the western culture of which some of us worship at the expense of our traditional intellectuals.

01/31/13 @ 14:53
Comment from: my2cents [Visitor]
my2cents

The intellectuals have been turned off. They are overwhelmed by the calamities that has befallen the country. Perhaps what they need is inspiration and situmilation. If there are only 34 surgeons in Uganda, just how many intellectuals are there in Ethiopia anyways? Out of whatever intellectuals there are, a percentage has the wrong fundemental thinking while only good at communicatiing. On this blog site for example, there are a handful if them: Messay Kebede, Alemayehu G.M, Assta B. Gettu, Yilma Bekele, Fikre Tollosa and few others. These folks cover a lot, more than needed. Just how many readers are out there must be the question. What good does it make if thousands of intellectuals flood the mediums. Just how many excellent ideas are out there, just how many interested readers who re-read them and even think about them. Unless Prof. Alemayehu G.M is tired, the curiosity and invitation is in vain.

http://goo.gl/5sAen

01/31/13 @ 15:54
Comment from: my2cents [Visitor]
my2cents

Assta, very good point, but the plague has throughly devastated the entire traditional structure. You are writing about the Lique-Liqawints. The plague that arrived under Mengistu and Meles has wiped out other circles of great treasure: the Neguse Negestat and Mesafents. Even the traditional vanguard, the Church, is dangerously corrupt and plagued. That is why Richard Pankhurst insisted we preserve those mini-bios chiseled on cemetery headstones. While the Palace and Church normally guide the people, in keeping with sorry history, only the church is functional now. Another English man said that we Ethiopians have cut our own head after the events of 1974.

01/31/13 @ 16:24
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

@HagereEthiopia
You gave a possible outcome of division by ethnicity and religions. You drew possible analogy from Nepal, India etc and expressed your concerns for Ethiopia. You also wanted to know a country success based on such administrative systems. Taking your concerns as anyone have right to express ones view, I would like comments:

1) Ethiopian regional Administrative system is not based on ethnicity. For example, there are many ethnic groups who are living and working in others regions. As to the federal level, EPRDF and TPLF should give share of authority positions for other ethnicity equally. Because the current system gave less position to Oromo and Amhara. You are right that equal opportunity should be extend to economic, educational, business and employment empowerment equally.

2) What is a problem if any one follow any religions or not at all? Nothing at all.

3) Language should be as will of the regions. Get over this one too. For example, if Amhara region want to stop Amharic language and prefer to use Oromo language, the Amhara region have right to adopt it. Otherwise, Oromia region cannot to insist Amhara region to adopt Oromo language, and vice verse.

4) Does Ethiopia is famine of Ethnicity, religions and language? Does they need aids to be addressed for them now? Not at all.

5) Rather, what the country need is one and only one! Economic development. So, does this forum bring a project through discussion e.g. mining industry, oil extraction etc.

Otherwise if some of you a thirst of political position, go and compete. But notice that have an economic projects to sell to public who are going to vote for you. TPLF and EPRDF must allow to undertake the election systems without a fraud. Those who want yo preach any religions, go and do. Probably no one will restricted you from your interests.

Take Canada as an Example of a country where there is very successful administrAtion systems by granting rights for each regions: Quebec vs others. At each regions, children and patents have a choice to attend any schooling either by using French or English language starting from Day care. It is unto individual choice. Is there a problem? No at all.


01/31/13 @ 17:08
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Member]  
Assta B. Gettu

Dear my2cents (visitor),

Ethiopia is right now like an abandoned house where most of her traditional intellectual households have been systematically decimated by two successive dictators – Mengistu Haile Mariam and Meles Zenawi, and no one would replace her traditional intellectuals. Few of them who are still alive live in exile, hankering to go back and pick up the pieces, but I doubt they will find any worth-keeping pieces. All are broken, fragmented, and scattered all over the places.

You are right the entire Ethiopian traditional systems have been wiped out, and I compare the two Ethiopian dictators with the Jihadist Muslims in Mali. Those Jihadist Muslims destroyed the ancient history of Timbuktu and tried to impose the Sharia law in Mali. In the same way, Mengistu Haile Mariam and Meles Zenawi did their best to bury down the history of Menelik II, the history of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie, and the histories of many other Ethiopian kings and forced the Ethiopian people to forget the past glories of Ethiopia, which have been the histories of her courageous kings and queens.

Yes, Richard Pankhurst has been very concerned about the preservation of the Ethiopian histories. His mother Sylvia Pankhurst did tremendous work in helping Ethiopia during World War II by campaigning against the invasion of Ethiopia by Fascist Mussolini. The Pankhursts have been good friends of Ethiopia for many years.

The English man who said, “We Ethiopians have cut our own head after the events of 1974,” which means after the death of our famous king, Emperor Haile Selassie, is absolutely correct. It is true our glorious history ended, exactly in 1974, and we are left now without heads, feet, hands, ears, eyes and many parts of our bodies. We are all now handicapped, helpless, blind, and hopeless. It is really sad that our ancient history is now replaced by the history of the desert monkeys and donkeys. Will it come back? Who knows? Everything is possible for the Almighty God!

Thank you for your interesting comments!

01/31/13 @ 21:01
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

AZ,

addis zemen [Visitor]
Hagereethiopia wanna be,….

Wow! What an asshole! Are you trying to justify dergue’s brutallity by telling me dergue was a butcher but based on unity. Are you justifying the death of your parents and relatives you claimed on the hands of the death machine dergue as your relatives being anti unity. How stupid can you be dude?

*** Well, let me start by reaffirming… not as stupid as you.

A very important matter to any nation, its survival above all, is based on the unity of its people. Tplf, a creation of Eplf, destroyed that unity while the Derg was fighting to keep it. The butchery of Meles/Tplf is no less than that of Mengistu/Derg, so be careful with your judgmental attitude. Again if the Derg put under a few Tplf along the way, good and dandy, I like it. Furthermore, I never told your stupid ass anything about my parents passing, which by the way was natural, you punk ass shabia gered. I said family members just like many were killed by Derg. Many Ethiopians are killed by Tplf every day, not to mention the 200 killed in a single day. Who is judging who? Who is justifying their hold on power because they fought the Derg? Yap.. its you tplf FOOLS & IDIOTS.
AZ, you are at the top of the moronic woyane idiots preceded only by Ash.
Once again, no justification.. the Derg was better than Tplf. Know it now, know it forever. Do not bring it up again. The Derg was Ethiopian, Tplf is not. Again, read’em and weep.. Tplf is a creation of shabia therefore not Ethiopian. As it stands for the so called liberation of the people of Tigray, you explain to me and all concerned what and who are you/tplf liberating Tigrians from? Is it the Ethiopia you have divided so that when the time comes you can just walk away wit Tegray just as you let Eritrea? Think again you banda mofos, Ethiopia will not be divided because the Ethiopian people will fight for their unity at any cost. TPLF will die a traitors death at the hand of the Ethiopian people. Mark my words.


01/31/13 @ 23:27
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

TS,

The end result of ethnic division, ethnic hate which is prevalent in Ethiopia these days is, ethnic violence. NO sugar coating here. I say it as it is what it is. Happened before in many parts of the world. It will happen again and the best way to avoid such events is to face them head on and solve by dialogue. Now, the best way for us as I see it is, to eliminate ethnic borders there by eliminating division, by informing people on the results of hate, the results of unification for lasting peace and economic growth. You can not build a nation when you have people unable to communicate. Hence stunned economic growth. Ts, I was in Ethiopia recently and on my way to Hawassa stopped a few little towns on the way.. no one spoke English and certainly not Amharic, the national language. Amharic IS the national language of Ethiopia, right? When I say that it is in the most useful way of a language and not based on ethnic supremacy. People just got to get over this Amhara superiority hate thing because that died when Derg took power.

I totally disagree on part of point #1 as far as the regional administration is concerned. No Amharas in Tigray regional offices, no Oromos in Amhara regional offices and vise versa, certainly Tigrians everywhere.
Point #2 the Tplf Eprdf is interfering in religion. It is a problem. If you are not aware of the Muslims in Ethiopia having issues with the Tplf govt, you may want to read up on it.
Point #3 No getting over this one. Why? Because, we already have a national language.It is Amharic and it is the working language of the nation. In addition to that Oromigna and Tigrigna should also be taught in schools throughout the nation along with English. But there can be no compromise about a language to tie the nation together. You may want to study history on the effects of language on the economy and inclusiveness of all ethnic groups in sharing equal opportunities.
Point # 4 I couldn’t get that. What exactly are you trying to say?
Point #5 Economic development is a product of a democratic society that has attained peace through equality of its people. Much like the USA, Canada, Western Europe in its hay days. Not China, Not the Soviet union who by the way are dictatorships with money, aware their majority population are still dirt poor compared to the West.

Overall, we need to end the ethnic division set by Meles as learned from the shabia IsayASS Afeworki. We must reverse this hate so that we can Achieve the Economic Development Meles has been lying about while enriching the few who help him stay in power.. before and after his death.


02/01/13 @ 00:13
Comment from: Bante Yihunilegn [Visitor]
Bante Yihunilegn

THE SO CALLED INTELLECTUALS (The likes of Mesay) SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE, WHATSOEVER, IN THE ETHIOPIAN HISTORY!!!

02/01/13 @ 02:18
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

As to my knowledge and closely know the facts, including, its retrospective and prospective aspects, there is no “ethnic borders”. For example, there are a number of Amhara or Tigrie people who have been working in Oromia. I know also that there are Oromo people working in Tigray and Amhara regions. Though it is not ethical to mention the name of these people, you can easily see it at Wellega University, Bahir Dar University, and Mekele University. In the regional office, I, myself, have an Amhara people with whom I worked in the same office. We were very best friends of each others. Also I assume that you know as people can have intermarriage because they love each others. Again this not ethical to name, and even it is impossible to list all, but, you may see into a singer and an athlete who married from other ethnic groups. If they like each others, there is no ethnic border you may want to eliminate it.

To be clear enough, the issue is not an ethnicity issues, rather it is a language issues. If one is unwilling to know a language which is useful for his/her own business, it is obvious that that can be a barrier to communicate with others. For example, an Oromo person is less likely accessing employment opportunity at federal level, otherwise, he/she must acquire Amharic language. Equally, an Amhara person can less likely employed in Oromia regional office if that person has no clue about Oromo language. It is unto both persons to acquire both languages to be competitive enough for regional or federal works.

As you knew the large number of Oromo population is proportional to that of Amhara in the country. Sometimes, even both are mixed by blood. There is no reason that both languages cannot be national languages. If Oromo hate to learn Amharic or Amhara hate to learn Oromo language, no one force him/her to acquire the both languages. But no one have mandate to stop in using once own language. In this lieu of these, there is no reason why I fail to favor a dual language (Amharic and Oromo) at national level because the numbers of people using both languages are almost equal. But it is difficult to force, say Tigray region or Amhara region to use only Amharic. Simply, it will not work.

We know that constitution declare there is no government intervention in individual religion affairs. Government stated that there is no interference on this matter, however, Muslim religious follower have been accusing government. I cannot comment on this one, simply, I believe that any person has his/her own right to follow any religion they want it or leave it. It is an individual choice. It is impossible to have a policy for an individual what religion to be attended. Hence, by no means, Orthodox religion will work for all people. It has never been too.

We have diversity of ethnicity. This is naturally there. We have diversity of religions. This is a doctrine. We have diversity of languages; it is people’s preferences to have it. Then, there is no famine of ethnicity, religious, language rather it is over abundant variety of these resources. Any individual can choice and make use of it. Rather as Professor Dr Messay Kebede put it, people failed to overlook “sectarian meanness.” That will come through time as educational level increases. But it is impossible to convert these multicultural to monotonic. However, though the country is progressing, there is famine of running budget, economic productive skills, and technology. There is where things should need to get an attention.

The other broad points you raised is about democracy. You said democracy lead to economic growth. Probably, but I am unsure. If a country has mining industry, oils etc and economically powerful, we shouldn’t have been cried for people who have been unfairly treated either in Arab, Israel or elsewhere.

My understanding is that the country should be encouraged for economic development. The country should build up tolerance and understanding of multicultural aspects: languages, religions. However, reversal to monotonic will simply bring obliteration and splitting of hair around talks. Probably it will bring civil wars.

Economic growth, peace and equality to Ethiopia and the World!


02/01/13 @ 02:22
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

@HagereEthiopia

As to my knowledge and closely know the facts, including, its retrospective and prospective aspects, there is no “ethnic borders”. For example, there are a number of Amhara or Tigrie people who have been working in Oromia. I know also that there are Oromo people working in Tigray and Amhara regions. Though it is not ethical to mention the name of these people, you can easily see it at Wellega University, Bahir Dar University, and Mekele University. In the regional office, I, myself, have an Amhara people with whom I worked in the same office. We were very best friends of each others. Also I assume that you know as people can have intermarriage because they love each others. Again this not ethical to name, and even it is impossible to list all, but, you may see into a singer and an athlete who married from other ethnic groups. If they like each others, there is no ethnic border you may want to eliminate it.

To be clear enough, the issue is not an ethnicity issues, rather it is a language issues. If one is unwilling to know a language which is useful for his/her own business, it is obvious that that can be a barrier to communicate with others. For example, an Oromo person is less likely accessing employment opportunity at federal level, otherwise, he/she must acquire Amharic language. Equally, an Amhara person can less likely employed in Oromia regional office if that person has no clue about Oromo language. It is unto both persons to acquire both languages to be competitive enough for regional or federal works.

As you knew the large number of Oromo population is proportional to that of Amhara in the country. Sometimes, even both are mixed by blood. There is no reason that both languages cannot be national languages. If Oromo hate to learn Amharic or Amhara hate to learn Oromo language, no one force him/her to acquire the both languages. But no one have mandate to stop in using once own language. In this lieu of these, there is no reason why I fail to favor a dual language (Amharic and Oromo) at national level because the numbers of people using both languages are almost equal. But it is difficult to force, say Tigray region or Amhara region to use only Amharic. Simply, it will not work.

We know that constitution declare there is no government intervention in individual religion affairs. Government stated that there is no interference on this matter, however, Muslim religious follower have been accusing government. I cannot comment on this one, simply, I believe that any person has his/her own right to follow any religion they want it or leave it. It is an individual choice. It is impossible to have a policy for an individual what religion to be attended. Hence, by no means, Orthodox religion will work for all people. It has never been too.

We have diversity of ethnicity. This is naturally there. We have diversity of religions. This is a doctrine. We have diversity of languages; it is people’s preferences to have it. Then, there is no famine of ethnicity, religious, language rather it is over abundant variety of these resources. Any individual can choice and make use of it. Rather as Professor Dr Messay Kebede put it, people failed to overlook “sectarian meanness.” That will come through time as educational level increases. But it is impossible to convert these multicultural to monotonic. However, though the country is progressing, there is famine of running budget, economic productive skills, and technology. There is where things should need to get an attention.

The other broad points you raised is about democracy. You said democracy lead to economic growth. Probably, but I am unsure. If a country has mining industry, oils etc and economically powerful, we shouldn’t have been cried for people who have been unfairly treated either in Arab, Israel or elsewhere.

My understanding is that the country should be encouraged for economic development. The country should build up tolerance and understanding of multicultural aspects: languages, religions. However, reversal to monotonic will simply bring obliteration and splitting of hair around talks. Probably it will bring civil wars.

Economic growth, peace and equality to Ethiopia and the World!


02/01/13 @ 02:26
Comment from: addiszemen [Member]  

Hagereethiopia wanna be, the dellusional kebele abyot tebaqi,…

You totally lost it dude. You better check in some where in a psychiatric institution near you
You’re not only trying to be a dergue worshiper, a dergue apologist, and the devil’s advocate, now you seem to act like the reincarnation of that same evil system. Instead you being that small worm born inside the trash bin of history, yet again to be squashed!
You don’t need to go that far just to protect that fragile ego of yours. Open your eyes, and be honest to yourself dude! No need for that stupidity of yours!
If some members of your family are killed by the dergue regime, why are you willing to justify that by labeling those members of your family who were killed in cold blood as being anti unity? It is not fair dude! Give it up! Just hide your tail between your legs and sit in your closet for a while. You might be able to recover out of your hallucination.
Reality bites! Isn’t that true?

02/01/13 @ 03:57
Comment from: gudfela [Visitor]
gudfela

Mike M,

“the generations ..he paints them as savages..” He is right. Since the end of the Monarchy we have been on spiral ever since and aren’t they savages? They were mass killing people using “nech chibir", then Derg replaced it in mass killing, almost 1million including the Monarchy that Derg killed, it continued to do so in Tigray and Eritrea although that was understandable it was fight for sovereignty, and today through TPLF mass killing ethnically those who are not favored which is most dangerous than during derg, is continuing to do so. The instigating of divsion from TPLF is feared there might be mass killing using religion or ethnicity more future war with Eritrea. Mike M, you are pathetic, you don’t bring change through killings and by being savage. You mean the mayhem of today and by laying down the foundation of all that you are glorifying is for neocolonization where you can’t even benefit? What an argument!

Hagere Ethiopia,
One Nepalese guy once approached me and told me, Nepal is being advised to have ethnic rule like Ethiopia and he thought what I think about it. I was laughing. This guys has no experience and no concept what is going on so it is good he he aske. Nepal and Ethiopai’s system was similar. Their king backed by foreingers were assassinated. They are now struggling what system to set up. Ethiopia through TPLF has been used a guinea pig model whether ethnic federalism will work or not. So TPLFties and foreingers set up and carved Ethiopia in ethnic fedralism that could burst any moment and they want it that way. Nepal is being proposed the same way. Luckily Nepal has relatively good neighbros not like ours with hostile and Muslim dominated, so they are more educated and know what is going on with the support of their neighbors not to divide into ethnic tribes, to its neighbors a strong Nepal is what is needed.

So for all of you ethno and religious fascists, or ideology fascitst and intellectual wanna be, yes, you are heading righte under the gutter by laying down the foundation with all your “sacrifices” which is self interest, to neocolonialism so basically your “sacrifice” was/is for foreign interest whether you like it or not. Hagere, the brainwashed cadres, their brain about wht you posted on Nepal system, the cadres, can’t handle intelligen discussions they prefer character assassination, distract, and I doubt they read and learn from mistakes of themselves or others.

Over all,

If all Liberation Fronts and ethnic and religious fascists crowned by Shabia and Isayas. Why don’t you guys, Addis Zemen, etc, take for example why Shabia/Eritreans are preaching unity every where for their country while they create divisions for us? Explain this to me. Don’t you have a brain to ask why, especially OLF who are dogs of Shabia? I went to Paltalk, a discussion forum website. When I opened Ethiopian forum, you can see all type of rooms, Muslims have 4-6 rooms (which I am sure promoted by tPLF and Shabia), then about 6 political rooms that are pro and anti TPLF, then other Evangelical rooms, etc.. Anything related to ethnic and religious rooms is not prductive to me rather gives open door to more division. Then I went to Eritrean rooms, all I see is Eritrea with different topics. No relgious or ethnic related. Some of you think democracy means your extreme view of “rights” for ethnicity and religons. When I argued about different names of we have Pal Talk with someone who claims it is “sign” of democracy. Really a country like Ethiopia is not about democracy but it is about in multi ethnic and religious country like Ethiopia, such “rights” is recipie that further divides society because our political system doesn’t have a foundation for democracy to work. So it is a bunch of ethnoc and religous fascists, who thinks it is rights but they don’t see where they are heading that is planned for us, it is heading to chaos and divided nations that leads to civil war, which is beneficial for outsiders. These groups just see their short term interest and don’t see what ever is being promised to them, be it “Oromia” , etc will not happen neocolonization is taking root in Ethiopai now.

TS,

Even though what you say maybe true, what the leaders and foreigners are setting it to be is the disintegration which will create mass exodus from one region to another because they are not wanted. You may not want that, but anti Ethiopains will set it up for you when a crisis or some problem where it will create ethnic or relgious wars. My worry is Yugoslavia style.

02/01/13 @ 04:07
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

The problem arises from two sources: government and others.

Primarily, government really didn’t give freedom to individual or groups under strong rule of law. For example, youth never deserve to be fired from school without causing any visible damage to property or on human being. Those youth can assemble and discuss whatever they like it. If a person found guilty, rule of law would be applied. But it is unreasonable to undertake mass arrests. The same principle applies for religious followers. They can do whatever they like. They can speak whatever language they want it.

Second, those victims of government actions could have proper conducts. But still, this can be easily resolved through training. To develop trust, it is better if government releases political, students and journalists prisoners. Again, as far as there is no visible damage caused, government should ignore cheap slogans and talks.

I assume this approach make the people feel being warranted freedom. That is all democracy means. However, if government exercises his power as if to appear for proactive actions, it will increases revolt. A simple statements from governments: you have right to do whatever you like as far as there is no break of law… people feels good. But be honest here not to put in jails those innocents. Unreasonable oppression and abuses simply increase vengeance.

Even the protocol of Court could have respected: before a person to be put in jails, proof of being guilty should be presented. It is very unreasonable why gov’t is so suspecisous and withheld freedom as far as there is strong law enforcement personnels.

02/01/13 @ 06:13
Comment from: etie [Visitor]
etie

assta b.gettu
wrote:
“And who can forget the poetry of አለቃ እንባቆም, in Geez language, against the government of Somalia, and who told us that Somalia belonged to Ethiopia. He said that the name “Mogadishu,” meant “mekdese-Mariam,” i.e. the sanctuary of St. Mary. These were indeed high level traditional intellectuals who served the Ethiopian Orthodox “

Assta ,Mogadisho is a prtuguese name,the indigenousor name is XAMAR.

Asta not only somalia,but sudan,zimbabwe,france,norway,argentina,all these countries belong to Ethiopia….You happy now.Please Assta stop drinking and smoking.


02/01/13 @ 07:14
Comment from: koya [Visitor]
koya

Hagere

Ethnic federalism with clear ethnic border and language is the best system which can maintain a united ethiopia.
English should be the official language.Hagere most of ethiopians support strongly the federalism.So reversing will disintegrate the country as we know today.

02/01/13 @ 07:57
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Member]  
Assta B. Gettu

etie (visitor),

What has Portugal to do with the Somali nomads? I want you to give me some historical connections between the Somalis and the Portuguese people, but there are similarities between Mogadishu and Mekdese-Mariam, and still part of Somali is in the hands of the mighty Ethiopia; one day the whole Somalia will be under the sovereignty of Christian Ethiopia.

Quizzically you wrote:

“Asta not only somalia,but sudan,zimbabwe,france,norway,argentina,all these countries belong to Ethiopia….You happy now.Please Assta stop drinking and smoking.”

You must think a little bit harder and get the correct answer that the whole world came out of Ethiopia. Ethiopia has been the source of humanity and the queen of the entire world if you read the history of “Dinkinesh,” or “Lucy.”

02/01/13 @ 09:47
Comment from: etie [Visitor]
etie

Assta

The first expedition of prtuguese to help orthodox arrived in Marca,the second expedition arrive to massawa.
Portugal was in Mozambique since 15 century as eurpeen super power and mogadisho is in the indian ocean.

Ethiopian in general are kind people,amharas,oromo,harai and others.Because of your propagation of religious hates you will succed to create more hate,divisions etc.. and such stupidity can put the unity in danger.You have to accept that is international law.That we are multinational and multyreligious people.


02/01/13 @ 10:10
Comment from: koya [Visitor]
koya

ASTA BETTU

“one day the whole Somalia will be under the sovereignty of Christian Ethiopia.”

I think it is better asta,to solve the problemes in ethiopia first.Thereare problemes with many liberations fronts such oromo,somali,afar,sidama,gambella.The conquered populations by Menelik,and haile selassé.And most are muslims and not orhodox.So adding somalis probleme ,you want to create a muslim empire,go ahaed my friend.

About CULTURE, WHICH CULTURE? Oromo culture,somali culture ,afar culture ? amhara culture? Ethiopia has many cultures,so which one?


02/01/13 @ 10:29
Comment from: etie [Visitor]
etie

assta b.gettu

One of the big misunderstanding is about the history of ethiopia.
Specially amhara learn church history which seem to be onsided and often wrong and resemble to propaganda.All other ethiopians dont accept such fabricated history. I invite ethiopian intelectuals to write the true and wright history.

Exemple Haile selasse false history of Lion of juda,he killed Lij Iasu and was killed by Menguistu

02/01/13 @ 10:46
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

AZ,

What the hell man? Ante yeshabia gered you still don’t get it. Just because Derg chased your ass around and buried you upside down while you were fighting for shabia does not mean you have what it takes to consider your/tplf’s ass as Ethiopian. Tplf is a separatist anti Ethiopian not Derg. You are upset because I am telling you the fact. You Tplf goons do not like to hear the truth.

Like I said you people want to demonize everyone but you are the biggest evil of all. I asked you to explain to all what TPLF stands for you dumbfak. Come out with it and admit what you fakers are. You traitors are waiting for the time to secede Tegray Keflehager in hoping to join up with Eritrea, right? Tell us why Sebhat the mofo Nega is saying you will run to the defense of shabia? That was and still is the question. Not the Derg. Stop trying to capitalize on the dead and gone. You are holding absolute power and spreading ethnic hate in our country, the Derg did not do that. Another fact, truth.. but again you do not like that.

It is my opinion that Tplf is the worst thing that ever to happen to Ethiopia. No matter what your insults, it will stay a fact that tplf is a traitor to Ethiopia. Your separatist organization will always be the trash of Ethiopian history, which your dead PM called teret teret, till it is overthrown. Deal with it.

addis zemen [Visitor]
Hagereethiopia wanna be, the dellusional kebele abyot tebaqi,…

*** Really? Ayee ante ye shabia kit denkoro hager shiach. Abyot tebaki? Moi? Stupid ass woyane.. get real sialfem aynekagne. I am a humanist, not a murderer like you people.

02/01/13 @ 11:46
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

Koya,

Ethnic Federalism is a dead end. Amharic IS the national language and dissolving this separatist system will only strengthen Ethiopian unity.

I see we clearly disagree on this. But it is important to respect each others opinions and leave it at that.

02/01/13 @ 12:05
Comment from: etie [Visitor]
etie

“You must think a little bit harder and get the correct answer that the whole world came out of Ethiopia. Ethiopia has been the source of humanity and the queen of the entire world if you read the history of “

to Assta B Gettu
Dinkinesh,” or “Lucy",The english called it Lucy ,in respect to the title of the song they were listening when they discover.But Dinkinesh why? Since it is in the Afarland why not an Afar name.

All the nation and nationalities must be respected Assta and they are respected thanks to TPLF.

Haile Selasse policy changing names of people,towns showed their limits when Nazret and Debrezet,return to their indigenous name ADAMA,Bishoftu.Dinkinesh will follow….

There is no place for your distorted history in the new Ethiopia.


02/01/13 @ 14:00
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

Ts,

I will say lets agree to disagree and.. but then, your argument to other ethnic groups in different kilils as university professors is not the context of our discussion of key government positions or local government jobs. I also do not agree with your argument of no “ethnic border.” Ethiopia is no longer in the state system and clearly sectioned off in Ethnic groups. In place of the 14 Kefle Hageroch, we have Killil based on ethnic lines. That is clearly ethnic division built on ethnic borders. Erthiopia’s leadership is made up of one single ethnic group, the army, govt officials.. that pretty much sounds like a minority ethnically biased group and the separatist namely, TPLF, holding all key positions benefeting a single group which is “internal colonialism..” Where the members of the “internal colonies” are differentiated culturally, ethnically.. based on language and/or religion, then excluded from social and political positions which are dominated by members of the ethnic group holding power.. exclusively. This minority leadership also builds hate of previous governing bodies by associating them and blaming other ethnic groups, namely the Amhara, to strength its hold by fear mongering. It is what it is..

You tell me Tplf has not achieved that and we will leave this topic as is and.. agree to disagree.


02/01/13 @ 14:00
Comment from: Ts [Visitor]
Ts

@Hagere Ethiopia,

Do people mostly out-migrated because of lack of democracy? Do people mostly out-migrated because of ethnicity and religious variation? I leave the answer to you here. But for me answering of these questions is simply striving to catch an abstract of a perceived, except real problems. This is very secondary.

I don’t say much but simply, at regional level, there is no key position. If it exists, even it doesn’t pay much. I clearly wrote you that, not at University level, but at regional levels there are a number of employee in private business as well as government office. But a person expected to attain a minimum language requirements. It appears that you are denying as if other ethnic group cannot get jobs at other regions. But this is a perceived impression you had. Business matter nowadays!!

Even you know! I don’t care if I marry a cute, slim, bright and beautiful one if I love irrespective of her ethnicity. This is an example but now I am old.

The problem of the country is economic development which need to be solved starting from village unto national level. Religions are individual choice. Ethnicity is a natural gift. Language is a preference who may need to use it. If someone need have a development projects in wherever regions, there is rare to be prevented. You can easily see this even when foreign investors are running various business though they hardly know our local language.

But I don’t understand why we focus on the talk or abstract aspects. I think this is what we can do and we want to specialize on this? That is to acquire even.


02/01/13 @ 17:42
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Member]  
Assta B. Gettu

etie (visitor),

Your original concern was about the name “Mogadishu,” and I told you Mogadishu can be “Mekdese-Mariam” since you are not sure what it means. Some people who do not understand the Geez language do not know what Mekdes-Mariam is; therefore, it means the sanctuary of Mary. Still some say Mogadishu is from Arabic words “maqad shah,” means “imperial seat of the shah.”

Indeed, during the 15th and the 16th centuries, Christian Portugal was very active in exploring many of the African countries, and her purpose was to expand trade and Christianity. Yes, Portuguese explorers were in the Christian land of Ethiopia in 1493, and six years later they were in Mogadishu; however, we don’t have any evidence they gave the White Pearl of the Indian Ocean the name Mogadishu.

Who are you to doubt the authentic history of Christian Ethiopia? Go and ask the Greek, the Roman, the French, the British, the Russian, the German, and many other distinguished historians about the history of the Ethiopian people.

Don’t even mention with your dirty mouth the precious name of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie, who liberated you from being sold out to the Arabs. You are a very low level person to question the Solomonic lineage of King Haile Selassie.

You are a slave born from a slave mother, and that is why you hate your master, your king, and your protector, His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie.

Any person who denigrates the history of Christian Ethiopia should not be part of Ethiopia. Our glorious Christian kings and queens fought hard to keep Ethiopia united until such a person like you, a brigand, a traitor, a lurker, and a trumpery showed up to ridicule the spotless histories of our Christian kings and our Christian Church.

Diffidently, you scribbled:

“One of the big misunderstanding[sic] is about the history of ethiopia[sic].
Specially[sic] Amhara[sic] learn church history which seem to be onsided [sic] and often wrong and resemble to propaganda[sic].All other Ethiopians[sic] don’t[sic] accept such fabricated history. I invite Ethiopian[sic] intellectuals[sic] to write the true and wright[sic] history.

How do you know the Ethiopian Church history is wrong? Have you ever taken Ethiopian Church History in class? You may have a language problem to fully understand the history of the Christian Church of Ethiopia. Your Galla instructor might have told you to ignore learning the Amharic language, the national language of Ethiopia.

The Ethiopian history, like the Quran and the Hadith, is not a fabricated history. It is a unique and a real history.

Is the historical journey of Queen Sheba to Jerusalem propaganda? Is the martyrdom of Ate Yohannes at Metema propaganda? Is the suicidal death of Emperor Tewodros propaganda? Is the defeat of the Jihadist Gragn Muhammad by the heroic Ethiopian Christians propaganda? Is the victory of Emperor Menelik II against Italy at Adwa just propaganda? Is Emperor Haile Selassie’s historic speech to the League of Nations, Geneva, in 1936 propaganda? Are your liberation by Menelik II, your enlightenment by the Ethiopian Christians, and your progress in modern education through the help and hard work of Emperor Haile Selassie pure propaganda?

Who are the intellectuals you want to invite to rewrite the history of Christian Ethiopia? Are these intellectuals the Muslims, the Arabs, the Gallas, the Somalis, and what will be their sources if they want to revise our Christian history?

Perhaps the Arabs or the Jihadist Muslims in Ethiopia may have brainwashed you to hate the Amharic language, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, and the Ethiopian Christian kings.

Argue as you like, deny as you please, meddle as you want, no one in his/her right mind will rewrite the dynamic history of Christian Ethiopia and the history of her prominent and immaculate Church – the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church.

Why don’t you invite your ignorant mother and father to rewrite the history of Christian Ethiopia or to plagiarize it as such things of copying someone’s work are common practices in the Arab-Muslim world?

There is no end to your stupidity and lack of understanding of the history of Christian Ethiopia; you have further demonstrated your ugliness, your awkwardness, and your insolence by penning down the following tasteless and meaningless statements:

“Exemple [sic] Haile selasse [sic] false history of Lion of juda, [sic] he killed Lij Iasu [sic] and was killed by Menguistu [sic]

You have no any single evidence that King Haile Selassie murdered Lij Eyasu: no one knows how he died until this day. We know he had many Muslim wives, and he was a Muslim; he had never been recognized as a legitimate king of Christian Ethiopia. If you mess with Christian Ethiopia, you will have the same fate. He should have known Ethiopia was and is a Christian country, not a Muslim country. I am glad his life was cut short.

His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie had the absolute right to rename places: such things have been done throughout human history and continue to be done. There is nothing wrong to give Biblical names to our rivers, to our valleys, to our mountains, to our towns, to our villages, and to our cities. It is our country, and it is a Christian country, and we can do anything we want in our country. You have no right to change any name without the permission of our Christian government. You have tried to change the name Addis Ababa to a pagan name “Finfinne,” but you have failed miserably to do so because you have no power: the power belongs to the Christian government, not to a Muslim caliphate.

We have given Lucy the name “Dinkinesh,” which is one of the words of our national language, the Amharic language. We have the right to give all the Ethiopian mountains, animals, birds, insects, rivers, and the stones the Amharic names. What can you do? Nothing! We also have the right to give the new born babies the Amharic name, and it is a great blessing to have an Amharic name – a name of a civilized community.

I don’t want to hear anymore from you for I am tired of writing [sic], [sic], [sic]…………It will be good for you if you consider going back to school and learn standard English you have been advocating to be the national language of Ethiopia.

02/01/13 @ 19:02
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Member]  
Assta B. Gettu

koya (visitor),

Do we have problems in Ethiopia? If so, what are they, koya? Can you name some of them? If you say poverty, disease, lack of education, transportation, clean water, housing, and human rights are our problems, then are these problems new to us? These problems have been with us for thousands of years, and we will never be free of them. Someone may tell you if all Ethiopians get educated, the rest of our problems will disappear. Would you believe him? Most of the people of India are well educated, but they have never been free from poverty, from disease, and from many other bad elements. If you have some solutions to our problems, let me hear it.

02/01/13 @ 20:27
Comment from: addiszemen [Member]  

Hagereethiopia, the delusional ye kebele abiyot tebaqi with a wounded ego,….

Why don’t you just drop dead dude! Why do you have to torture yourself?
Looks like something is eating you alive. Is it your guilty conscious of the red terror era? How many youngesters you mowed down in a broad day light?
Who knows! You might have been the one yourself who killed your family members and blame them as being anti unity, just to show your unconditional loyality to the dergue regime which you still worship.
You’re a desgrace to human kind! You’re like that little worm which was born in the trash bin of history, just to be squashed. Useless banda! Ye banda lij!

02/01/13 @ 21:28
Comment from: chemoga [Visitor]
chemoga

Someone said,"when you have a knowledge,you think you should tell everyone what to do".Dear Dr.kebede,the era for so called Ethiopian “mehuran"tell anything you want and expect the masses follow you is gone.The time for people like you, jumping from one camp to the next,inflicting pain on the poor,and can get away is over.you pushed decades being unproductive and in the way of ethiopian development.you want nothing but lead.Your are BYTEWAR for open discussion.Anyone with opposing views is yours and “public” enemy. you introduced over decades, adjectives like “banda","anja,"Mehal sefari","Hodam"etc.A system of govt.is ok ,when you`r part of it .It is worst kind ,the day you are apart.Ethiopia missed many opportunities because of you “mehuran” .The people of eritrea went down hill because you blessed stupid movement.Ethiopia lost many worldly leaders,military generals,diplomats,technocrats,and bureaucrats ,she can not replace`m in generations.YOU like to antagonize governments and opposition parties from the start before you try to find common ground.You approach new idea and suggestions with suspicion.You deny progress,development,and achievement made by opposing party.The masses said BEKA for disfunctional “mehuran".

02/01/13 @ 23:14
Comment from: my2cents [Visitor]
my2cents

There was this book that I got to read at one of the libraries at the state universities in the south. It was about the first generations of elite Ethiopian students who were studying in America. This period must have been in the sixties. The author asks the students about the Ethiopia, Haile-Selassie and their experiences in the U.S etc. Their responses were shocking to say the list. They said pretty much ashamed about the king’s administration. They bragged about reforms. The distanced themselves from anything Ethiopian. Disdainful and resentful, they went on to criticize and badmouth everything the country stood for. Mind you, those were th times where you could travel to Europe without visas; where white dignitaries knelt down before our king; our total nationl debt was zero; where we won a couple of African championships; where an Asrer-Aleqa with $120 bir ($1 = 1Eth bir) salary raised eight beautiful college and armed forces bound children. We Abeshas, Ethios + Erits, have some curse we need to cleanse away first. Why should anybody give a godamn care to the intellectuals and the learnt when they acted like assholes. Things have only gotten worse since. Mengistu and Girmame Newaye did the same. They traded their fortune of privileges into bloodbath and treason. We, the intellectuals included, are underdeveloped for the most part or not developed at all. AratKilo, we have a problem!

02/02/13 @ 01:12
Comment from: My2cents [Visitor]
My2cents

There was this book that I got to read at one of the libraries of the state university in the south. It was about the first generation of elite Ethiopian students who were studying in America. This period must have been in the sixties. The author asks the students about Ethiopia, Haile-Selassie and their experiences in the U.S etc. Their responses were shocking to say the least. They said pretty much that they are ashamed about the king’s administration. They bragged about reforms. They distanced themselves from anything Ethiopian. Disdainful and resentful, they went on to criticize and badmouth everything the country stood for. Mind you, those were th times where you could travel to Europe without visas; where white dignitaries knelt down before our king; our total nationl debt was zero; where we won a couple of African Cup championships; where an Aser-Aleqa with $120 bir ($1 = 1Eth birr then) salary raised eight beautiful college and armed forces bound children. We Abeshas, Ethios + Erits, have some curse we need to cleanse away first. Why should anybody give godamn care to the intellectuals and the learnt when they acted like assholes all along. Things have only gotten worse since. Mengistu and Girmame Newaye did the same. They traded their fortune and privileges for bloodbath and treason. We, the intellectuals included, are underdeveloped for the most part or not developed at all. AratKilo, we have a problem!

02/02/13 @ 01:22
Comment from: bichinchiru [Member]  
bichinchiru

Dumb,Smart and Smarter People
By Richard

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Smart people live up to their potential.
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Dumb people use MySpace.
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02/02/13 @ 06:27
Comment from: bichinchiru [Member]  
bichinchiru

” Those who are the most intelligent are often the most likely to go insane

” Whether you are smart(?) or stupid(?) your thought processes are limited by your language and experience, or the symbols you have associated with your history. None of which have any value(?) beyond the value given to them. The smarter you are, or the more you take in and analyze and associate with previous analysis, the more you are filled with subjective constructs based on nothing but what you make up, or have agreed to believe what someone else made up. This makes things seem empty and valueless whenever you stop and try and take it in and associate a meaningful feeling like success or love to the variables within day to day life or your overall perception of life. This is made worse by the information overload that is occurring as we move through the beginning of the information age.

This is a very interesting line of thought. Sometimes genius is considered insanity by some cultures. When Galileo first postulated that the earth was not the center of the universe, he was considered either mad or a heretic because it did not fit into the Church’s point of view. Mozart was also considered ‘odd’; sometimes the folks in other countries and cultures just associated genius with an unusual way of thinking and interfacing with others.
There was a study done in New York City by Yellow Cab (if memory serves), wherein they compared folks with a high IQ with folks with sub-average IQs. The study concluded that the high-IQ people were frustrated, unhappy and tended to get more complaints and into more accidents. They basically had higher hopes and aspirations, and their minds were working a mile a minute while robotically driving around the city. The sub-average folks were more contented and concentrated more on the moment than the future.

A large part of intelligence and creativity is the ability of your brain to map out complex relationships between ideas. Simply knowing a lot of data doesn’t make you smart or creative – it’s the structured connections you can make between all of those little discrete packets of data.
The brain is constantly toying with the information you absorb - trying out random connections, and seeing how they fit in. Little neurons firing, misfiring, whatever it is. Creative “eureka” moments come from making a random connection that no one else has made before, and all of the pieces suddenly fall into place.

So how does genius connect with mental instability? The average person makes a certain amount of random connections, and most of them get filtered out automatically because they don’t fit into the limited mental maps that person has constructed. The “genius” has a lot more random connections, and they seriously consider a much larger proportion of them. They start new maps more often. They don’t filter out ideas just because no one else has tried them before – and sometimes something great is created…. but sometimes they have so many unfiltered random connections that they can’t get through everyday life.

“Madness” could be a number of things in this model – no filters on random connections, overactive filters (where almost all connections are filtered out as irrelevant), too many random connections, or too few.”

02/02/13 @ 07:01
Comment from: hayelom [Visitor]
hayelom

I wonder if both articles by professors Alemayehu and Dr. Messay are a partial confession of how they and their generation of intellectuals have coroded the moral fabric of society and sold their soul for a few dollars or a fellowship to western countries. It is the likes of Doctors Alemayehu and messay who are hiding behind a facade of intellectualism who are responsible for whatever malaises our society. They both are nihilistic, you don’t have to be a doctor/professor to find that out all you have to do is read their article or attend their meetings. Alemayehu since he decided to be a politician and Messay throughout his academic year has been critiquing everything.What solution did they suggest, it is close to none, besides suggesting the intervention of a foreign countries in the internal affairs of Ethiopia. If you are for neocolonialism they are the best spokes people for your cause. However if you are for Ethiopians deciding their future on their own these people are a manifestation of the internal conflict that is taking place with in a person who has grown in a feudal society and educated in the western countries. They are confused about everything.

02/02/13 @ 10:31
Comment from: Yophtahae New Thinker [Visitor]
Yophtahae New Thinker

You indeed amaze me in recognizing virulent intellectuals. What the Ethiopian intellectual lacks is patience. Because of its short history of leadership, it is hopelessly erratic, quick to achieve change at any cost or by any means. As the product of ethnic conflict, feudalism and western training, the Ethiopian intellectual is arrogant, contemptuous and Machiavellian.The intellectual knows how to strangle his critic best more than to bring him forth and make him his friend.He never acknowledges good work by others out of envy and selfishness. He is reckless to plunge the country into chaos in the name of beating his oppressing regime. The Ethiopian intellectual supported Ziad Bare in the 70s before Castro saved Gara Nuleta and Nazret by his missiles. The intellectual , (some) were cheering for Isayas Afeworki and the Somali Alshabab when Meles sent his troops to Kisimayo. The issue is not denigerate Somalia or Eritrea here. The issue is to show that if Alshabab and Isayas won, the fate of Ethiopia and Africa horn would have been unimaginable. Dr. Messay, I am so sad of your outlandish deception; I am not only sad of your head and heart, but your mandibles and jaw, the real Obo Shemane! You and your likes whether from left and or right have given horn of Africa a night mare for 40 years! It is time Pan Africanists from Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea to come together and chart a way of peace, stability and development to uplift humanity. It is time each country’s young intellectuals reject the old conflict mongers.

02/02/13 @ 17:38
Comment from: Hagos [Visitor]
Hagos

Call to Oromo to Struggle: Your last freedom TV Oromia taken away. The fake Oromo represenative at Federal level is selling your rights. Your president also warming up chairs. OPDO is voiceless. If Oromo and Afan Amhara were national language, there would be no objection.

Wake up Oromia! This is re-colonization stage. TV Oromia is known to be a regional mass media but it has been used to transmit Afan Habesha. Afan Oromo was expected to be a major national language. But this was not happen. There is no single private economic company established for Oromo that supposed to be empowered by TPLF. This is totally a sign to stand and struggle for your rights for one and last resolution against Habesha re-colonization. You don’t have media freedom. You don’t have economic company. Your students are eliminated, harassed, injured, and killed from their student life. Your land is sold out to Habesha. Your taxes are collected and transferred to other regions development. You were given a freedom of language but this is taken from your rights. This is a last indication to up raise together. Go and protests. By any means you need to stand now to struggles. You need to take back your lands since they are taking your freedom of language.

02/03/13 @ 18:37

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