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Ethiopia: Meles's Death: Paradoxes and Opportunities

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09/03/12

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Ethiopia: Meles's Death: Paradoxes and Opportunities

In the Ethiopian capital , soldiers lower the flag-draped coffin of Meles Zenawi into the grave at Holy Trinity Cathedral. The prime minister died Aug. 20. REBECCA BLACKWELL / AP

Ethiopia: Meles's Death: Paradoxes and Opportunities

By Messay Kebede

Beyond the pathetic and at times ridiculous theatrics of Ethiopians ordered not only to mourn but also to show visible signs of a boundless grief over the death of Meles Zenawi, henceforth advertised as a great and beloved Ethiopian leader, I hear a murmur that increasingly sounds like a condescending laughter. Who is laughing? Perhaps history is laughing at the extraordinary reversal of Meles and the TPLF. When the guerrilla troops of the TPLF marched on Addis Ababa in 1991 and their leaders seized power, they promised freedom and democracy for all the peoples of Ethiopia. After 20 years of total rule, what we observe is people mourning a leader in the North Korean style, that is, the reality of a government that feels entitled to order its people even how to feel.
This is a new landmark: already whatever Ethiopians used to have belongs to the government, including their house, their land, and the schools to which they send their children, just as they are told to which ethnic bantustan they belong and which party they should follow under pain of being demoted to second or even third rate citizens. I would hardly be surprised if the government soon orders Ethiopians who to marry and which religion to adopt. The totalitarian strangle is tightening every day to the point of utter suffocation of what makes their humanity, namely, their ability to govern themselves.

The recent drama of a prolonged and effusive official mourning is deliberately staged to achieve two interrelated results. On the one hand, by demanding that Ethiopians show an outpouring grief over the death of Meles, his successors and followers want to further humiliate them so as to erase any temptation of protest, obvious as it is that a humiliated, broken people is unable to stand up for itself. On the other hand, the submission of the people to the point of manifesting grief over the demise of their oppressor provides his successors with a semblance of legitimacy. The more Meles is glorified and his successors swear to continue his “great” work, the more they acquire the mantle of legitimacy by presenting themselves as his trusted heirs. This borrowed legitimacy is necessary to find some form of acceptance among party members, the military establishment, and the troops.

It should be noted that the strategy could backfire. Indeed, the more Meles is exalted, the less his successors appear as able people. The excessive exaltation of Meles leaves the impression that he did everything by himself, that he was the only decider, planner, and executor. His stature is now so high that his successors look like dwarfs licking his boots. This confirms what Sebhat Nega supposedly said, to wit, that “in his death, Meles took with him the TPLF as well.” Meles’s glory is obtained at the expense of the TPLF and, as repeatedly confirmed by history, the rise of a dictator always undermines his followers. Even though dictatorship was thought necessary to impose the interests of the party, the first loser is always the party in that it creates a force that it can no longer control.
The most stunning reversal is however the fuss aimed at presenting Meles as a great Ethiopian nationalist leader. Meles, who all along ridiculed Ethiopian nationalism, landlocked Ethiopia, fragmented the country into ethnic states, officially and repeatedly stigmatized Ethiopian legacy, even went to the extent of defending the secession of Tigray, is now exalted as a staunch Ethiopian nationalist. What is more, he who defined himself so pompously as a Tigrean nationalist, wanted his funeral ceremony and his burial to take place in Addis Ababa, as though he had nothing to do with Tigray. That the once vehement Tigrean nationalist suddenly found Tigray too small for him represents the apex of paradox. There is after all a winner in the 20 years of wasted rule and it is Ethiopia. The fact that Meles’s body did not even touch the soil of Tigray is his mea culpa and final tribute to Ethiopian nationhood.

Lastly, I have a free advice for Meles’s successors. Instead of trying to find the legitimacy that they lack by hiding behind the ghost of Meles, they should seriously consider the only path that provides them with their own legitimacy. The resolution to continue Meles’s policy is a deadlock and ultimately dangerous for their own survival and interests. To continue the same policy without Meles would require them to be more repressive and totalitarian than Meles ever was, the outcome of which can only be the exasperation of popular unrests. Even if we assume that the EPRDF has the ability to become more repressive, the implementation of the policy will necessitate another “strong man.” And this means back to square one, that is, back to one-man dictatorship with all its risks and restrictions on the ruling party itself. Notably, the rise of such a dictator, assuming it is possible, would come at the cost of the unity of the EPRDF and even of the TPLF.

The only viable path is to correct Meles’s mistake by opening up the political space to opposition forces and by lifting all the restrictions on freedom of speech and organization as well as by liberating all political prisoners. To do so would confer a new legitimacy on Meles’s successors while at the same time removing the possibility of another round of dictatorial rule and reaffirming the unity of the EPRDF and of the various parties that compose it. In other words, both the EPRDF and the TPLF need the participation of opposition forces to regain an internally working democratic condition and preserve their unity.

As things stand now, I see no better way to move in a different direction than to confirm Haile Mariam Desalegn as the new prime minister. More than his status as deputy prime minister, what militates in favor of his confirmation is that he represents the southern peoples and, as such, can intercede between the big competing forces within the EPRDF. This gives him the strategic position to preserve the unity of the party and opens up a space for the participation of the opposition. Let there be no misunderstanding: I am not saying that Haile Mariam is the right person. Some such conclusion would be utterly premature and unfounded on any reliable proof. Rather, I am suggesting that he should be given the benefit of the doubt, given his strategic position. At any rate, we will soon know whether he can take advantage of his position and initiate a new direction.

102 comments

Comment from: Olana [Visitor]
Olana

Messay,

How could you say with certainty that the people were ordered to mourn? You have lived here in the USA, in Dayton, Ohio to be precise, for over two decades and you have never visited Ethiopia. It is so sad that intellectuals like you choose to bury their head in the sand, and are never willing to accept reality.

09/03/12 @ 22:41
Comment from: zewdu [Visitor]
zewdu

power vacuum and now you come up with paradox and opportunity. what’s wrong with you guys. Do you think we are stupid as such. Nothing to say but ‘Abay yigedebal!!’.

09/03/12 @ 22:59
Comment from: Ensermu [Visitor]
Ensermu

Prof. Messay - as much as I appreciate the analysis of the contemporarey Ethiopian politics, I disagree with the recommendations and here is why….

Hailemariam Desalegne is handpicked by the late tyrant not based on his credentials or meritocracy but out of convenience & ethnicity. First of all, from the little I learnt about Hailemariam, his resume is one of an opportunist and loyal cadre - and not of a principled leader or proven technocrat. In addition, his ethnicity is also considered as less of a threat to the Tigrian hegemoney compared to an Oromo or Amhara.

Although I understand Prof. Messay’s recommendation, I presumably like millions of Ethiopians do not agree with the prescription. Instead, I suggest to look beyond TPLF and the cosmetics of Hailemariam Desalegne.

Ethiopians must make a decisive move to end the Woyane rule and erase the unending Tigre circus at the expense of Ethiopia and Ethiopians.

09/03/12 @ 23:21
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

“I would hardly be surprised if the government soon orders Ethiopians who to marry and which religion to adopt. “
Dr Messay Kebede, you are out of touch? The Pop as we knew was a reformed of the church. Second, Islam is now being reformed to make it liberal and compatible with the dictatorial mentality of aristocratic Meles. He imported Ah bash the most hated and despised cult claiming to be a Muslim. Its founder Abdulahi Harari is a self acclaimed interpretor of scriptures of Islam. No one knows where he got training who his influencial desciples are and his great teachers are. He may be self taught but we don’t know who he is. He advises women to take off their face veil, he advocates interest (ribba) and alcohol , gay marriage and so on. He also takes issue with Quraan as word of Allah. Instead he claims it to be word of angel Ghebrel and hence it is created not eternal and has never been with Allah and can thus be variously interpreted. He follows the Mutezelite school of understanding and they think that they can use logic, rational thinking of Aristotle to interpret Quraan. They never see Quraan as literal in meaning and they stand at variance with Asharite school of thought like what people want to call wrongly Wahabi or more appropriately Salafi. Asharites give little to logic and rational thinking for interpreting Quraan. the major dispute between the two of course if “Tawhid” on Unity and oness of Allah. They like to celebrate Muawlid and they add certain practices never practiced by the Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.) and call it hassenate Bidaa( good innovation practies). however, Salafi don’t not add any practices other than those documented to be present in hadith( a book where the practices of the Prophet were documented). Wahabi do go by the Books(Quraan and Hadith) and literally . Ah Bash heavily rely on prominent scholars for their opinions. This has led to a lot of their practices such as venerating Shrines and their Shiehks as imminent dangers to unity and oness of Allah. This is the state of affairs in the current debacle between the Ah Bash Mejlis who recently prayed for the dead body of Meles. Muslims are asked to make prayers for the “dead of their fellow Muslims” with may be the exception being King of Axum King Negash who for the first time ordered to pray (selatele jenaza) in the absence of the dead body. the Ah bash people may have taken this as a loophole to pray for another Axum King this time for Meles. But we know Meles is bent of harming Muslims and the interpretation of the original teachings of Quran his own way. Meles therefore stands with Ghadafi who wrote his Green Book equivalent to him to his own opinion of Quran.

We really don’t know what to call Meles. Historians usually lack inner circle information to know who Meles and his beliefs were rather than judge him by his actions which are not truly reflections of one man’s decision.

On the advise you put on legitomizing Hailemariam thinking he will play a role of balancing. That is totally erroneous. What should happen is give Oromo and Amhara their due share of power. Religious balance should always be taken into consideration whenever possible.


09/03/12 @ 23:43
Comment from: Ahadu [Visitor]
Ahadu

Fools like Messay were the ones meles refer them as “idiots” day dreamers.

09/03/12 @ 23:52
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

I would hardly be surprised if the government soon orders Ethiopians who to marry and which religion to adopt. “

Dr Messay Kebede, you are out of touch? The Pop as we knew was a reformed of the church. Second, Islam is now being reformed to make it liberal and compatible with the dictatorial mentality of aristocratic Meles. He imported Ah bash the most hated and despised cult claiming to be a Muslim. Its founder Abdulahi Harari is a self acclaimed interpretor of scriptures of Islam. No one knows where he got training who his influencial desciples are and his great teachers are. He may be self taught but we don’t know who he is. He advises women to take off their face veil, he advocates interest (ribba) and alcohol , gay marriage and so on. He also takes issue with Quraan as word of Allah. Instead he claims it to be word of angel Ghebrel and hence it is created not eternal and has never been with Allah and can thus be variously interpreted. He follows the Mutezelite school of understanding and they think that they can use logic, rational thinking of Aristotle to interpret Quraan. They never see Quraan as literal in meaning and they stand at variance with Asharite school of thought like what people want to call wrongly Wahabi or more appropriately Salafi. Asharites give little to logic and rational thinking for interpreting Quraan. the major dispute between the two of course if “Tawhid” on Unity and oness of Allah. They like to celebrate Muawlid and they add certain practices never practiced by the Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.) and call it hassenate Bidaa( good innovation practies). however, Salafi don’t not add any practices other than those documented to be present in hadith( a book where the practices of the Prophet were documented). Wahabi do go by the Books(Quraan and Hadith) and literally . Ah Bash heavily rely on prominent scholars for their opinions. This has led to a lot of their practices such as venerating Shrines and their Shiehks as imminent dangers to unity and oness of Allah. This is the state of affairs in the current debacle between the Ah Bash Mejlis who recently prayed for the dead body of Meles. Muslims are asked to make prayers for the “dead of their fellow Muslims” with may be the exception being King of Axum King Negash . The Prophet ordered for the first time to pray (selatele jenaza) in the absence of his dead body. The Ah bash people may have taken this as a loophole to pray for another Axum King this time for Meles. But we know Meles is bent on harming Muslims and to apply this to interpretation of the original teachings of Quran his own way for the case of Meles is debatable. Meles therefore stands with Ghadafi who wrote his Green Book as equivalent to his own opinion of Quran.

We really don’t know what to call Meles. Historians (Ethiopian ones) usually lack inner circle information to know who Meles was and what his beliefs were rather than judging him by his actions which are not truly reflections of one man’s decision.

On the advise you put on legitimizing Hailemariam thinking that he will play a role of balancing. That is totally erroneous. What should happen is give Oromo and Amhara their due share of power. Religious balance should always be taken into consideration whenever possible as well.

09/03/12 @ 23:54
Comment from: mesfiin [Visitor]
mesfiin

It is your choice to deny the reality.If it is worthwhile as opposition go a head, keep lighting the sun by lantern.
I am following the news, comments and articles from the opposition since the news release of the late pm sickness.
all of them were throughing the same kind of exaguration,lie and disrespect to people.
If you understand what statstical sampling is, you would easly understand where the ethiopian people position is.
This would be a good chance to you to evaluate how EPRDF penetrated to the heart of each citizine and you would correct your marching position.
This is a clear indicator that you are not from the people to the people.Your politics is just sarted from hatred,revenge and seek of power.
my piece of advise to you is do not deny the realty,instead face it.
Ethiopian LOVE meles.enjoyed his era,sad with his death. Ofcourse there are issues they may not like.Respect people opinion,find the real problem and come up with convincing solution.Unless you keep shouting as old dog,you will never fish anything,your voice will have nothing but just noise.

09/03/12 @ 23:54
Comment from: amare101 [Visitor]
amare101

Under Weyane rule, thousands are massacred, billions dollars robbed, thousands are evicted. Weyane officials are responsible for all these crimes. They know it and afraid to stand trial. They will never give power unless they are forced militarily. TPLF will never reform itself. Messay is too long in US and forgot African politics, no smooth transition. I appreciate his good wish.

09/04/12 @ 00:03
Comment from: JOJO [Visitor]
JOJO

So you are saying all ethiopians are fools and do not have courage I do not want to cray….. so you are understemating Ethiopian people inteligence… your the only inteligent person …..

09/04/12 @ 00:03
Comment from: Ambessaw! [Visitor]
Ambessaw!

What an a****le! He called the whole country as pathetic and theatrical….. ??And he claims to be,what? educated?….I can tell right on your face you are just tired addict good for nothing!

I stopped on first paragraph cuz reading this would be repeating your disrespect to the pepple. Bisbis shimagle!!

09/04/12 @ 00:22
Comment from: Lencho [Visitor]
Lencho

I personally mourned to Meles to some extent, b/c I am a human being and have intact sense to feel death. But the very extended and very exaggerated mourning made me sick into my stomach. In addition people forced to mourn in public without their willingness, the ruling party used the death of MELES as strategic means to legitimize his controversial 20 years ruling.
There are three groups of people in Ethiopia today
1- Those who benefited from these government- they cried loudly and will cry for themselves too b/c no more such lotting and getting rich in short cut.
2- Those who lost their beloved once, suffered and victimized by the ruling party- No doubt those people feel at least relief and eventually will get healed from their wound.
3-Some people are in between- they are like a wind, they simply follow the group, they are emotional. We have seen those people in past and will see them in future. They simply cry and laugh.

So, MELES was not an angel for all or devil. He was a human being with a lot of good and bad baggage. He did his own history, history will judge him. No man is a hero to all !

Let us not forget when he shut down his book and joined the northerner rebel his goal was to separate Tigray from the rest
of Ethiopia.

He disrespected Ethiopian flag but took it to his grave.

He did not rest for 14 days in his life time, but at least officially rested for 14 days. We the Ethiopian people some us by force some of us willing-fully saddened and morned to him. This true to all of us and close friends Ethiopian.

I don’t my people to be hunted by his death sprit or I don’t people west too much time by talking about him. We have move on, put a side MELES to historian.
We don’t need national ( salest, arba- ken, mut-amet, ….)

RIP

09/04/12 @ 00:25
Comment from: New Ethiopia [Visitor]
New Ethiopia

Do not to rush to judge
the people of Ethiopia.
A lot has been said about the last 20 years. At the end one can say the late PM Meles had a funeral that your generation has never seen to bury a leader with respect.
The nation has mourned and take it as it is.
The key at this juncture is not to give the funeral and the behavior
of people @ the Lekso unnecessary weight, but rather is to wish for the nation to have peaceful transition.
I believe staying abroad for to long has it’s disadvantages.
We forget who we are and where we came from.
Have faith on Ethiopia.
It’s a dignified and cultured society. Give it time and at the end Ethiopia will be fine.
Change is taking place but for the best.
We have young generation with different point of view and different expectation.
This is a generation that believes in itself.
It’s a new beginning.




09/04/12 @ 00:57
Comment from: Ababu Alemu [Visitor]
Ababu Alemu

amare101 [Visitor]
Genfo le genfo bidegagef abro zef nw negeru.
Antena fesam Mesay can go and fight, which I strongly doubt.
Qezenam hula—

09/04/12 @ 01:10
Comment from: amanu [Visitor]
amanu

Thanks Prof. You gave us a very good analysis I prefer you said more about about free election and reconciliation. As for Melesse let him Rest In Hell

09/04/12 @ 01:11
Comment from: tink_tank [Member]
tink_tank

What have you done for Ethiopia expect running away to the west and complain most of your life time, it is a shame on you writing this topic; you know a brave man for what he/she believes fight and take over not ..ing. Good luck for your blablabla.

09/04/12 @ 01:52
Comment from: Independent [Visitor]
Independent

Prof,

It is realy sad when some one educated preffers to chose what is popular among certain groups instead of what is true and right. I mourn for Prime Minister Meles (May Peace Be Upon Him) and nobody has ordered me to do so. You can’t order millions people in the whole country to mourn. Your analysis puts you in par with village idiots like the likes of TEDDY and Ce’moi instead of Plato, Hegel or Kant. One thing Meles (MPBUH) posses and you apparently don’t is GUTS. Unlike you He would die for what he believes in. You people just follow eacher blidly scared of saying one word different.

09/04/12 @ 02:28
Comment from: ejole bishoftu [Visitor]
ejole bishoftu

People of Ethiopia,

This diaspora writers do not care for the people of Ethiopia.They think they know better than anyone else and try to underestimate Ethiopian people.Imagine they run away from our people for their comfort nothing else.They write articles based on assumption not on facts on the ground.

even some of them copy and paste from western writers.

I believe Meles is a dictator but has brought changes in terms of development which will give him credit and appreciation.No one and no regime is perfect!!!

09/04/12 @ 02:36
Comment from: C'est moi senait [Visitor]
C'est moi senait

Ppl have been forced to mourn the devil or loose their job, house and free food. This is the fact.

Weyannes FORCED MANY PUPLIC WORKERS TO GO TO MESKEL SQ . OR LOOSE THEIR JOB. SOME BEGGERS FROM NORTH TRANSPORTED TO COME TO MESKEL SQ. AND CRY ALL DAY. Many of them are now on street of addis as a beggars.

09/04/12 @ 02:42
Comment from: Ameha [Visitor]
Ameha

“Ethiopians ordered not only to mourn but also to show visible signs of a boundless grief over the death of Meles Zenawi….”

Delusional at best!

Aye Ethiopia, people like this ‘jonya ras’ are considered intellectual just because they have added some titles to their names.

Such individuals so called diaspora intellectuals, are driven by selfish interests and/ or populist pretense, and are not good for any meaningful advice about Ethiopia.

Ye agere gebere kene qenenetu ena ewnetegnanetu besint taemu!!!

Adios analysis!

09/04/12 @ 02:47
Comment from: Assefa [Visitor]
Assefa

I trust Reporter who is reporting from the spot:

http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/editorial/294-editorial/7593-2012-09-01-12-04-23.html

“As we cried in unison let us move forward together!!”

No time for such garbage worthy ….

09/04/12 @ 02:56
Comment from: Abebe [Visitor]
Abebe

Those people sleep knowingly, so you cant´t wake up them. They are ashamed to be out SMARTED by a revel fighter who ruled Ethiopia with extremely outstanding performance with much dynamic mind. He debet and articulate with the most powerful politicians, educators, economists and he out smart! And he is prized for that.

While the aka Prof/Dr. with empty mind and race based hate in the confort diaspora, preached hate for the last 21 years and expected to be continued. I never imagen something stationary in this univers, it under goes transformation in any kind. But those people are static/stack to the monarch ideology only. So, what we Ethiopian need is just to pass by and show them we are better of them, as we showed them in the past. Because inferiority complex is killing them inside. They are dreaming hard, Mengistu can come to power so they can be the drivers. Listen to the US ambassador how she describe those pople as “foolish/idiots", nothing can describe them than this.

My beloved pople hate never produce any fruite, we had enough of it and it put as in the dictionary as starved people! We need to say enough to that, we have a lovely country enough to accomodate all of us, but prior wrong ruling deeds cost us too much as you all know it. We need to learn from the people´s motivation to overcome poverty inside Ethiopia! May God bless Ethiopia!

09/04/12 @ 03:40
Comment from: chala [Visitor]
chala

What is your children learn from you?
They have been seen you hiding in your room the last 21 yrs and asking others to do your job.
you are embarrassment for your family ?
this is the what Madonna says once.

*EBAB YELIBUN AYITO EGIR NESAW*

09/04/12 @ 03:53
Comment from: duri_mohammed [Member]  
duri_mohammed

What ever is said seems a personal view, but when it comes to the fact that The meles regime left Ethiopia landlocked is out of reality.Ethiopia is aland locked country since time immorial. We dont want to ignite fire with our Eritrean brothers.We can agree to the ports on grounds of good neighbourhood. The amhara’neftegna’ belongs to the old century, we are now in the 21st century.dr. messay wake up!!!

09/04/12 @ 04:37
Comment from: Adebayo [Visitor]
Adebayo

@ Independent

“I mourn for Prime Minister Meles (May Peace Be Upon Him) and nobody has ordered me to do so. You can’t order millions people in the whole country to mourn.”

Many people bend over without being told to. This is worse than being forced to. I don’t blame you. You’ve been brain washed by the weyane propaganda machine for too long you should be glad your head hasn’t exploded.
Hitler introduced the ” Tell the big lies often; they will believe it sooner or later” maxim. Supreme leader Zenawi and Bereket Goebbels perfected it.
Enjoy blogging for now until Internet and Skype are banned.

09/04/12 @ 04:49
Comment from: Olorro [Visitor]
Olorro

I am sad to read such low piece from a once known professor in AAU.
Does going to America make people such stupid ???

09/04/12 @ 05:08
Comment from: Tamrat Tamrat [Visitor]
Tamrat Tamrat

It is not a paradox at all. The aim of tplf is to controll Ethiopia economically, politically and full miltary controll. So my question is for trigrians: Shall we continue coating the poisen of tplf by eprdf or shal we drive for real the teory of eprdf. Meless had driven tplf in Ethiopia and Eprdf internaitonal. And see the result. God how happy i am he is dade. At least no innocent man be killed by him.

09/04/12 @ 05:35
Comment from: Bula [Visitor]
Bula

The letters that the authorities wrote to order people to mourn the death of Meles are now in public domain. Whether Messay said it or not the fact remains that the Ethiopian public was ordered to mourn Meles. If EPRDF thinks that they have this much public support they have to organize a free and fair election and see the result.

09/04/12 @ 06:30
Comment from: Manbelew Menesha [Visitor]
Manbelew Menesha

ejole bishoftu !

Thank you for your advising, have made quite clear to all Ethiopians.
Such as a few diasporas to make confused the people of ethiopia to put in the hard question for their’s interest and to come in the power.
I hope the new generation should know of those old view mind intellectual living abroad in the age of over 75 years still looking comfort and hunger for power. No way at all.

09/04/12 @ 06:44
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TEDDY

Those to be blamed are the evil Bandas who did organise the shows .Of course as the main profiteers of the System Agazi Bandits ,Tigre Mafiosis and opportunist bandas have cryed for him .But it’s a Shame obliging Street Beggars ,Aged peoples ,children and all others citizens to parade in front his coffin .Afterall all these poor men and wimen are the main victims of evil rule the Dead Crime Minister .

09/04/12 @ 10:00
Comment from: Yirgacheffee [Visitor]
Yirgacheffee

Messay Kebede

What planet did you come from? Planet of the Nefts? Do you think that 80 million people suddenly went to a some of the top Holywood acting school to be able to fake crying?

C’est moi senait [Visitor]

Vous devez vous dire merci Woyane pour vaincre le cul Dergs en ​​1991 et le cul Kinijit en 2005! Merci à Woyane, chiennes Neftegnia stupides comme vous ne sont plus un facteur en Ethiopie. Au lieu de cela, vous avez à traiter avec une femme de chambre étant ou esclave en France ou partout où l’enfer que vous êtes.

09/04/12 @ 10:14
Comment from: Zer202004 [Visitor]
Zer202004

Some of you are articulate, and it appears you have good Judgment. But I find it mindboggling how you fail to see the bigger picture of Meles’s contribution to the country. Yeah, you can point out errors here, minor mistakes there, and it’s normal to have difference of opinion on any given issue. But what I’m hearing from some of you is pure nonsense. Whether you like it or not, he has changed the nation for the better, and millions of Ethiopians have made it clear to everyone. He has laid the groundwork for a political system, (even though it is still in its infant stage) he has jump started the economy, he has placed us on the map once again, as a voice to be listened to in world stage. What more do you want? No wonder Susan Rice called you guys idiots! You have just witnessed the making of history before your eyes and failed to be a part of it. Better yet, you will be remembered as those who opposed the making of history. Future generations, future Ethiopians, will judge you for that. History books not yet written, will mock you. As those who sided with Italy against Ethiopia in the past, you sided with Egypt who wants to exploit our Waters. Menelik II prevailed; the Ethiopian people prevailed against all odds and won. In our time we prevailed again against all odds and made the Nile River ours again. Thanks to Meles and his leadership. He deserve a credit for that. We should give those who live for the betterment of Ethiopia their due respect. Elias Kifle and the like question the sincerity of Ethiopians who morn the loss of a great leader, HOW DARE YOU! This is some of the things he says, “according to Ethiopian Review sources. ‘Shermuta’ was Azeb’s favorite name for her late husband also.” Well, what more can I say.

09/04/12 @ 10:29
Comment from: Solomon [Visitor]
Solomon

Prof. Mesay Kebede, thanks!

Yes its fact, we have been witnessed on German Radio Amharic service (Listeners comments) and VOA Amharic, Oromigna, Tigrigna programs that Ethiopians are forced to mourn the death of dictator, killer and boss of looters Meles. We also witnessed on www.nazret.com and other Ethiopian websites about a copy of a letter to Gonder University, which proves the fact that the weyane-EPRDF regime forcing people to mourn, unless we tell and record facts those idiots keep generating lies to confuse the entire world.

What the majority Ethiopians wish for Meles was to be judged at the hand of Ethiopians in front of court of justice.

“Qomatan, Qomata! Kalalut be dushu gebito yifetefital”

09/04/12 @ 10:50
Comment from: kul [Visitor]
kul

ወይ አቶ መለስ:-

በህይወት ዘመናቸዉ ጨርቅ እያሉ ያዋረዷት ባንዲራ ሲሞቱ ለሬሳቸው ማድመቂያ ሆነችላቸዉ::

09/04/12 @ 10:56
Comment from: Gondar [Visitor]
Gondar

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEFORE TWO MONTH AGO THE DICTATOR SUDANESE PRESIDENT ,OMER HASSEN AHMED AL BASHIER SURVIVED FROM ASSASSINATION,
HIS BODY GUARD WAS WOUNDED AND TAKEN TO
ROYAL-CARE HOSPITAL FOR TREATMENT,

09/04/12 @ 11:04
Comment from: GUDL [Visitor]
GUDL

what a professor!!
i am tired of those geriatrics hopeless like messay to tell as ethiopians are ordered to cry.How do you know they are ordered? did you see it in your dream? please if you don’t have any thing to contribute to our society, just shut the f ..k up and hide in your nursing home.balege shimagle keletam!!!

09/04/12 @ 11:07
Comment from: Tezibt [Visitor]
Tezibt

Prof Messay need to stop being a hipocrytical. What ever you write may have positive intentions but I am so sorry to discount it to useless and wasteful writing. Probably you write garbage purposely.

09/04/12 @ 11:08
Comment from: Truth Hurts [Visitor]
Truth Hurts

Most of part of Messay Kebede’s opinion is correct except that TPLF and their remnants did not come to power peacefully and they will not relinquish power without Ethiopians uprising or concoct overthrow of the TPLF administration by low level military officers.

When Mengistu took power, most of the military generals were in the pockets of the few well-to-do Ethiopian leaders. The generals and their followers protected Haile selassie’s regime and the feudal system.

In 1974, Emperor Haile Selassie’s government had lost public confidence within Ethiopia following a famine in Wello province, leading to the Ethiopian revolution. As a result, power came into the hands of a committee of low ranking officers.

Mengistu became the most influential member of the shadowy Derg, but preferred to act through more public members like his former mentor, general Aman Andom, and later Tafari Benti.

To make the story short, Mengistu, a ruthless dictator, low level military officer at the time rise to power by killing several generals or persecuted one by one until he had a grip on power. I do not have to remind Ethiopians well-documented atrocities that he and his administration committed over the years.

Knowing that (58) out of (61) generals are from Tigray and these generals are loyal to the Woyane tribal administration. They will do everything in their power to protect the status quo.

We cannot expect democratic change from the Tigray administration in a peaceful manner. The vast majority of Ethiopians are fed up but they lack power to remove current leaders or change the system.

I do not prescribe solving current Ethiopian dilemma with violence but with the benefit of TPLF’s past actions, Ethiopians will be forced to remove these actors with aggression.

The defense ministry is completely in the hands of Woyane and giving up power peacefully can only be a wishful thinking.

09/04/12 @ 11:24
Comment from: heny [Visitor]
heny

This man, who was once posting his picture with a tekateko fit (face) after eating a lot of tekateko banana, is on eof those people our suprbly intelligent Meles called the “IDIOTS".

You see how much this againg man who has nver been to Ethiopia after he left Ethiopia about a decade and a half agao undermines the intelect and judgment of the Ethiopian people. A farmer from Butajira is more informd and wiser than this senile, confused liar.
One day soon, Your body will be lowered to the bottom of the earth, like the body of our brilliant PM Meles. The difference is your passing will not be heeded by any one other than ESAT and the vagabonds out there, including the lemtam leper Afear.

But the passing of our dear leader echoed all over the world. He was diginified by dignified and honourable leaders of the world. He was cheered by millions of Ethiopians. So your stinky body will sooner or later be in the same position. ante getaba shimagle. bekt.

09/04/12 @ 11:40
Comment from: heny [Visitor]
heny

I am glad that I forced you to stop from posting your ugly picture. It sickens at the very sight of it.

09/04/12 @ 11:46
Comment from: Kibee [Visitor]
Kibee

Lack of intellect is driving how TPLF puppets’ idiotic mind functions.

They have been watching the death of Meles, the dictator propagated, honored and rise to heaven through the prism of TPLF TV (ETV). Remnants of Woyan cannot handle difference of opinion unless fits their tribal agenda.

It is laughable that these folks’ minds are still trapped in the 20th century.

09/04/12 @ 12:08
Comment from: WakeUp! [Visitor]
WakeUp!

As Meles himself said it….
OUR ONLY ENEMY IS - P O V E R T Y - AND IGNORANCE OFCOURSE.
Lets all stand for ones and think
Why is Ethiopia (the only country in africa who has never been under colony) has never been able to develop itself, eventhough Ethiopia is full of natural resources and human power? What is it that made our country to live as one of the poorest countries in the world and stretched our hands for handouts? Why?
Yes, the answer is because we depend a lot on foreigners, we worship them as our Lords to begin with USA. We have accepted our poverty as a badluck and we were too lazy to fight for our living. We were to cruel because they made us believe our empty pride that we are the only SUPERPOWER of the horn of Africa. They played us like string between their fingers to sing their song and bow for their orders and kill all our neighbours but gain NOTHING! except hate, poverty, ignorance. Our leaders be it Meles or the former leaders except Mengistu they all been licking shoes of their Masters. All those who cried for Meles they done it for their politics. They still want us to remain under their mercy. They want us to fight for decades among ourselves and our neighbors so that they sell their sophisticated armaments while we end-up as deadbodies. Those who are cut their right hand would snatch our resources with the left and those who lost a great friend would hook-up with a new one and make us bleed for more years to come. Are we meant to accept all the cruel, degrading and humulative actions as God sent orders? For how long should we serve them? What is the outcome?

09/04/12 @ 12:20
Comment from: Zerihun [Visitor]
Zerihun

C’est moi senait [Visitor]
Anch kerfatm arogit–alesh?

Please clean up yourself–you stink, stink, stink.
your mouth and everything are stinky. I know what I know–please do clean up first and go to school, get GED or take data entry job somewhere.

09/04/12 @ 13:06
Comment from: marcus [Member]  

I am not a supporter of the EPRDF government. In fact, I disagree with some of their political and economic policies. Furthermore, I do not belong to any political party and I dislike political parties totally.

What I find hard to believe is when people such as Messay and Alemayehu claim that the EPRDF government is the worst government Ethiopia has ever seen.

Unless one is blinded by intense hatred and irrationality, one cannot deny, despite the many blunders, that there are some positive contributions this government has made. The harnessing of Ethiopia’s water resources for Hydro-electric power, striving for food security and standing up to Egypt’s bullying are some landmark achievements of the EPRDF government that immediately come to mind.

I do not know Alemayehu, but I knew Messay when I worked at Addis Ababa University. Unless it is a different person with the same name, the Messay Kebede I know was a proud and arrogant Derg cadre who strutted around wearing the WPE (ESEPA) uniform.

Messay was also cruel and nasty towards his students. I even know a case of one student being expelled from the University over a personal disagreement with him (the details of which was not disclosed to me). I would like to appeal to former students of the University during the Derg, who may have more details about Messay’s cruelty, to come forward and expose this crooked and lying person.

It is almost Orwellian, when Messay compares the EPRDF with the North Korean communists. But, but, but, … North Korea was best mates with, Messay’s former master, the evil, drunkard, deluded, incompetent and sadistic Mengistu.

Does anyone remember the 1984/85 famine? At that time, Mengistu was celebrating the anniversary of his revolution with his North Korean, East German and Soviet handlers, drinking tones of Whiskey. I bet Messay did/does not have a negative opinion about that event.

When Messay said: “both the EPRDF and the TPLF need the participation of opposition forces to regain an internally working democratic condition and preserve their unity”, I was totally dumbstruck (not because I object to the EPRDF being more inclusive).

How is it possible for a die-hard Derg cadre who used to preach the sanctity of communism with passion able with same breath to pontificate about a “working democratic condition”?

Is there no shame, conscience with Messay and his ilk? But I am certain that what they all lack is one vital currency in politics called ‘Credibility’.

09/04/12 @ 13:17
Comment from: The Great Meles Dam [Visitor]
The Great Meles Dam

UnEthiopian!

“Beyond the pathetic and at times ridiculous theatrics of Ethiopians ordered not only to mourn but also to show visible signs of a boundless grief over the death of Meles Zenawi, henceforth advertised as a great and beloved Ethiopian leader, I hear a murmur that increasingly sounds like a condescending laughter”: Messay Kebede
For a man as old as Messay Kebede with one leg in the grave to spew such a hateful message to a dead man is UnEthiopian.But why the few elite Diaspora “intellectuals” are desperate after the death of PM Melese Zenawi? Well the answer is found in the cities and the villages of Ethiopia. They have witnessed their defeat in the streets of this great nation called Ethiopia. For over twenty years the likes of Messay kebede and Almariam have spewed so much hate…but went in to the tubes in just one week.Our proud ppl have shown the world why we are called Ethiopians..because of feriha egziabher..and they have buried their leader in grand scale unprecedented in Ethiopian history. Now instead of facing the reality they have gone to the extreme to insult the Ethiopian ppl..by labeling “North korea style”…
In my life time I have never seen any Somalie weeping for any Ethiopian leader but Meles Zenawi..reader just ask why? that is the basic question any ordinary person let alone“intellectual” needs to Ask ..but a gain we have some people who have created their own planet that we cant see it..
Well Meles zenawi is dead but his vision is unsettled them, cause the common man in Ethiopia has internalized his vision….
Before I go…Melles Zenawi enters history as a great son of Africa who re-invented Ethiopia and Africa..
And what is Killing the Radical dispora is this:
“ For, among Prime Minister Meles’ many admirable qualities, above all was his world-class mind. A life-long student, he taught himself and many others so much. But he wasn’t just brilliant. He wasn’t just a relentless negotiator and a formidable debater. He wasn’t just a thirsty consumer of knowledge. He was uncommonly wise – able to see the big picture and the long game, even when others would allow immediate pressures to overwhelm sound judgment. Those rare traits were the foundation of his greatest contributions.
Prime Minister Meles was an uncommon leader, a rare visionary.
Susan Rice.
President Boni Yayi of Benin, which currently holds the presidency of the African Union, said: “With his energy, vision and fight for the achievement of a free and prosperous Africa, the late Meles Zenawi… was a force… on which the African Union depended in these last 10 years.”
President Zuma said: “We are proud of Meles Zenawi, and the leadership he provided on issues affecting the continent and around the globe.”

The Great Meles Dam

09/04/12 @ 13:20
Comment from: ABDU KAMAR [Visitor]  
ABDU KAMAR

MATTAQALAYA MELESE ZENAWI

CONCLUSION ABOUT TO GHANNAM ESAT LIFE IS LIKE THIS …..

SWEET,TASTY,DELICIOUS MELESE ZENAWI

1)YAZEHON TERS YALLAHU DIABLOS TOMANNA( ONE WHO FASTS) EYYYA BALLAWO NEWO MELESE ZENAWI ERRY ALA

AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.

2)TUNCAMMA -HAVING MUCH MUSCLE GATATA TERS YALLAHU SATNA’EL(SEWAMI-SOM ADDARI( VERY POORFASTER) EYYYA BALLAWO NEWO MELESE ZENAWI ERRY ALA

TUNCANNA MUSCULAR TERSAM (PROTRUDING TEEETH SATAN YALLAHU SOM GADDAFI- BROKE ONE’S FAST MELESE ZENAWI EYYA BALLAWO NEWO ERREY ALA

AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.A

ATANNA TERS AGANENT ATANNA TERS YALLAHU TOM-ADDARI (WENT WITH OUT SUPPER AGANENT EYYA BALLAWO NEWO AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.

3) TABDAL ATANA TERS GANEN (RATHER THIN SREM OF ECULAYPTUS TREE GANEN) TOM ADARI ( ONE LIVING IN WRETCHED POVERTY GANEN EYYA BALLAWO NEWO ERREY ALA AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.

4)BALLATANNA TEQUR BALCK (NEGRO), TAQUWARA (DARK NEGRO)TEFRAM-CLAW FINGER NAIL DIABLOS, SATNA’EL, GANEN, AGANENT, MELESE ZENAWI WAS SWEET, WASTASTY, WAS DELICIUS, WAS SAVOURY EYYABALLAWO NEWO ERREY EYALA

AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.

AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP………………………………

YE ELIASK KIFLEN SEM MATFAT WANGALM TEKWANNANULA MELESE ZENAWI

EBAKKAWON ( PLEASE DO ME A FAVORE? (POLITE) FORGIVE HIM TO MELESE ZENAWI THANKS
MELESE ZENAWI AQQATARI ENBA BANAB TARACCA (LAMENTED IN GROUP.

09/04/12 @ 13:20
Comment from: mesfin_b [Member]  
mesfin_b

***To all the Cyber Cadres***

The begged change that trickles to your pockets is dwindling!!!
Till you get no more chum change, you guys will “meow", “scratch” and still utter nonsense!!!

The truth is The late Evil/Shifta Meles the TPLF’ite funeral should not even be such significant event. To have each and every Ethiopian citizen wear a morning dress/costume and have he/she weep till they are exhausted is beyond Tyranny. It is downright “Thugtatorship” of the ruling Mafia Circle - AKA EPRDF. In the end we have been the “Laughing stock” of the rest of the world!!!
Go figure fellows.
It doesn’t get any worse than this.
******////******
Meles’s resume include the following

1- separated Eritrea from Ethiopia hence we became landlocked.
2- Sold pieces of our nation to foreign investors at almost zero price.
3 - Antagonized Ethiopian citizens with ethnic categorization.
4 - Misappropriated Aid and Loan funds in the name of our nation.

09/04/12 @ 13:27
Comment from: tarik [Visitor]
tarik

people tend to forget the greatest enemy of ethiopia …….yes it is poverty get that in your mind pls pls pls….and before you raise to write with your pen think twice about that and the whole perspective changes,…yes meles was not democrat but he was a changer and he changed a lot for the country…not for for every body but to the majority of after all he was the leader of yedeha….. deha… ager ethiopia!!!……..yes he showed us change….he has his mistakes(politically) but he showed us change(economically) right ones too …what touched me most in his funeral was there were people crying because at his time they managed to carry their loved ones to clinics because there is a ROAD!!! but before that they lose them on the journey!!…that is change….when 20 years ago eletric power we produced 200MW now we produce 1,400MW planing to go to 10,000MW ….then there is change in a number of available small clinics where there was none before… basic education outreach to everybody improved by 15% ….if that is not change well abslotutley you dont know the difference…and it is not easy to do a job again in a very deha ager!!! Belmenam behone….so give credit to the job that is done too….what is sad is …the leader in all of this is not there any more well he should not be there forever either…that is his weakness..if there was a system….hopefully some one picks from where it is left…..humm we have the luxury of talking democracy ,….do you know there are ethiopians a lot actually that do not know meles …if they do only by name. ….because they are far from any form of civilzation.!!!.. thats what ethiopia is….pooor poor….who ever has the opportunity to sit down like me and have internet acess and the privillage to read these belive it or not you are the rich of my country …….Please ask what you can do to your country not what your country do to you or other people of your country do to you to make ethiopia a better place……!!!!! then we will see change when everybody have a steak in his country …democracy naturally flourish!! you cant stop it then…but in dehenet/poverty there is a lot of dirty tricks in it!!!

09/04/12 @ 13:33
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Things most Ethiopians do willingly, freely, and convincingly are less than the things they do forcedly, oppressively, and fearfully.

Throughout their histories, Ethiopians have always been told to follow whatever their oppressive leaders tell them to follow and do. Everything is imposed upon them without their wills, without their consents, without their permissions, and without their approvals.

However, the Almighty God had been good to them for giving them some outstanding and god-fearing Christian leaders until the death of Emperor Haile Selassie. Then he abandoned them for killing his anointed King, Emperor Haile Selassie, and gave them two brutal leaders – Mengistu Haile Mariam and Meles Zenawi.

Even the so-called good Christian leaders never refrained from imposing their harsh rules upon their subjects. For example, Ate Yohanes IV, Ate Tewodros, Ate Menelik II, and Ate Haile Selassie had been considered good Christian leaders, but they never allowed the common people to participate in various decrees these Christian leaders wrote and announced to be the laws of the land. The common people had no right to amend or to delete some of the decrees the emperors had codified, signed, and sealed.

I have heard some shocking stories such as an Ethiopian common man who had a fatty goat or sheep was forced to give his fatty goat or sheep to the emperor, because it was considered illegal to kill and consume one’s own fatty goat or sheep. The same thing was true with honey: if a common man had harvested plenty of honey, he must give the honey to the emperor; it was unlawful for the common man to eat his own honey in his house with his family.

In their earlier histories, we see Ethiopians were forced to accept Christianity, and those who refused were dubbed “Felashas.” Ethiopians were forced to build imposing Church buildings and magnificent palaces, and no one knows how many Ethiopians were perished as they constructed the obelisk of Axum, the Castle of Fasilades in Gondar, and the Rock hewn Churches in Lalibela. The Ethiopian common people were forced to build all these great and historical Churches and palaces without their wills. Those who questioned the legalities of the emperors’ edicts to build Churches and palaces might have been sent to jail or forced to exile.

The vicious communist leader Mengistu Haile Mariam introduced villagization and the displacement of thousands of Ethiopians and uprooted them from their inherited lands and sent them away, without their consent, to a remote area. He nationalized the people’s land and gave some of it to whom he favored. He terrorized the ordinary people for many years, killed many of them, and some historians designated his 17 years of rule as “The Red Terror” for killing over 150,000 Ethiopians. He ruled Ethiopia without the consent of the Ethiopian people and left many Ethiopian children fatherless and motherless. He killed Emperor Haile Selassie and Abune Theophelos, the Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, without the knowledge of the Ethiopian people. He finally, without the permissions of the Ethiopian people, left Ethiopia with huge amount of the people’s money, landed in Zimbabwe, and settled there with his family for, perhaps, for the rest of his life.

More brutal and ruthless than Mengistu Hale Mariam, Meles Zenawi ruled Ethiopia for 21 years without the wills of the Ethiopian people.

For over twenty decades, Meles committed some of the following cardinal sins, ignoring the wills of the Ethiopian people but following the wills of the few Tegaru:

1. He held the Ethiopian flag up side down and desecrated it as a piece of rag.

2. He came to power by bullets not by ballots.

3. He appointed Abune Paulos as the Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church while the legally-appointed Patriarch Abune Merkorios is still alive and well.

4. He murdered over 200 innocent Ethiopians in 2005 and refused to be accountable for the slaughter.

5. He abused human rights by incarcerating journalists and his political opponents.

6. He considered the Amharas and the Oromos as big threats to his government and killed many of them.

7. He annexed Wolkait-Tegedie and some regions from Wollo province to his province – Tigre.

8. He gave some fertile lands from Gondar to Sudan.

9. He divided the Ethiopian people through the ethnic lines and enriched his own ethnics – the Tegaru.

10. He planned to proclaim Tigre as an independent nation even though it is one of the tiniest provinces.

11. He forced the Ethiopian citizens to vote for him in 2010, and they voted for him without their wills.

12. He squandered the hard-working Ethiopians’ money and bankrupted the country.

13. He rejected the unanimous consent of the Africans’ heads of states to erect a statue in front of the OAU head quarter for Emperor Haile Selassie, the founder of OAU, but Meles considered King Haile Selassie an Amhara king.

14. He lied to the Ethiopian people that he would leave office when his first term was ended, but he didn’t.

15. He gave important positions to the Tegaru army officers at the cost of the Oromos, the Amharas, and the other Ethiopian ordinary soldiers.

16. He purposely disrupted the quietude and the peaceful living of the Ethiopian monks of Waldiba Monastery by attempting to takeover their god-given lands.

After he died on August 21, 2012 at age 57 in Brussels’ hospital from a mysterious disease held secret from the Ethiopian people, his political cadres forced the Ethiopian people to wear black clothes, to mourn, to cry, to wail, and to weep in front of his corpse without their wills. Some people were forced to travel miles and miles to be present at his perfunctory funeral attended by some foreign dignitaries. Some Ethiopians who could not naturally produce tears brought with them some mitmita (hot pepper), dipped one of their fingers into the hot pepper, touched their eyes with their hot-pepper-tainted finger, and their tears came easily; they could now add some wailing to their flowing tears so that the other people could see them they were truly and deeply touched and saddened by the death of Meles Zenawi.

Therefore, Dr. Messay Kebede is absolutely right some Ethiopians were forced to cry and weep for the dead man. Ethiopians don’t have the right to control their own feelings, their own emotions, and their own properties. Especially at this particular time those who are in power control the destinies of the Ethiopian people. When Ethiopians are told to leave their farm lands, they have to leave; when they are told to show their IDs, they have to show; when they are told to vote for a certain person from the authorities, they have to vote for that person; when they are told to send their sons and daughters to an unjustified battlefield, they have to; and when they are told to weep, to cry, and wail at the funeral of some of the officials in power, they must weep, cry and wail as they did for one of the most hated persons – Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi). Poor Ethiopians have never been free to control their own destinies.

I hope the new Prime Minister, Desalegn Haile Mariam, will let the Ethiopian people go free and mind their own businesses without the interference of the government.

Good luck Mr. Haile Mariam in your risky and very rewarding job!

09/04/12 @ 13:37
Comment from: ABDU KAMAR [Visitor]  
ABDU KAMAR

BALLATANNA TEQUR BALCK (NEGRO), TAQUWARA (DARK NEGRO)TEFRAM-CLAW FINGER NAIL DIABLOS, SATNA’EL, GANEN, AGANENT, MELESE ZENAWI WAS SWEET, WASTASTY, WAS DELICIUS, WAS SAVOURY EYYABALLAWO NEWO ERREY EYALA

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TANAFARAQI –NAFRAQQA(SOBS BITTERLY LIKE— (CHILD) –KAZZIHM BALAY MASSASAYA ANCHI CAQQUWAN (OPPRESSOR TYRANT )

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09/04/12 @ 13:45
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

Impressive post by the brave man Assta Getu.

Thank you for being so informative and well balanced.

09/04/12 @ 13:48
Comment from: Ameha [Visitor]
Ameha

Our country has been considered a property of elites hailing from one ethnic group for the last century. The elites considered every other ethnic group in our country as their servants and subjected to a second-class citizenship. Their allegiance was, however not to their ethnic group but simply to their power, in other words – hode. They flatter the ordinary persons coming from their ethnic group so that they are content and will not be threats to their power.

True to their selfish interest, they try to humiliate any ethnic group that challenges their hold to power. They faced such a challenge for the first time, coming from the people of Tigray. They were militarily challenged and were defeated, and they surrendered power to the oppressed people. However, due to the effect of their long sustained social setup among their ethnic group created through flattering, and to some extent due to the pay cut they have sustained through the change brought about by EPRDF, there still exists some grudge among them toward the people who supported EPRDF unequivocally.

We see them targeting one ethnic group 24 /7, through a strategy they consider would weaken the power that is standing in their way to power. Even though, their campaign is targeted at the people of Tigray, there is no doubt they would have done the same thing towards any other ethnic group. Had it been the Benishangul ethnic group who challenged their hold to power in a serious way, it would have been this ethnic group that would be painted as banda, racist, etc by the ‘hodams’, who regard their belly above anything else.

The good news is these people are getting fewer by the day; and more so after the great job EPRDF has done to lift many poor Ethiopians out of poverty. Today, their only hold outs are in the cyber space particularly around their websites, the youtube videos (ESAT comes to mind), paltalk, facebook and other social media including this very website. They have been severely weakened that they have allowed the Eritrean regime to be their master of designing strategies and setting agendas. Anyone can tell they are in their last breath!

Ethiopia shall be stronger through the effort of her masses!

09/04/12 @ 14:22
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
Mario

The insult and disrespect Meles poured on Amhara and Oromo ethnic groups didn’t spare a minority group, the Wolayitas. At one time, Meles asked, “What has Axum civilization (Axum obelisks) got to do with the Wolayitas?” That was just meant to denigrate Wolayitas and other ethnic groups and glorify his own region and ethnic group, the Tigrayans.

The all-know-it-Meles, when he said that didn’t realize Axum obelisks actually belong not only to all Ethiopians as their heritage, but also are world heritage of all mankind (check UNESCO).

Before Meles died, Hailemariam Desalegn (a Wolyita) was his favorite to rule Ethiopia in his absence, so we were told. His selection was purely based on personal and party loyalty. Here is the proof. At one time, Meles said, “If a donkey is loyal to himself and the party, he/she will get the job". That is exactly what is happening now and then.

Do you sense something strange and weird here? A man whose ethnic group was singled out by Meles and denigrated and then to be picked by him as deputy PM. Sounds very strange and sad too.

This alone reflects what Meles and woyanes were/are like. As they say in Ethiopia, “In the reign of woyanes, water flows upwards, i. e., disobeying the law of gravity". Very weird and strange indeed.

I have no much problem with Haile Mariam for being future PM of Ethiopia. Destiny has brought him to the current status. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can offer something different from his boss and mentor.

09/04/12 @ 14:41
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Ethiopians live under forced governance, forced culture, forced tradition, and forced religion. There is nothing that has never been imposed upon them.

Forced governance: All Ethiopian kings and queens had never been elected by the people of Ethiopia. They had governed the Ethiopian people either by claiming they had divinely chosen by God or they had an overwhelming power over the common people.

Forced culture: The Ethiopian people pass their cultures to their children by forcing their children to adhere to their parents’ cultures; if they don’t, the children will be whipped severely.

Forced tradition: A guest visits an Ethiopian friend, and the Ethiopian friend brings a lot of food to his gust. The guest eats until he is full; then the Ethiopian friend insists his guest to finish the food. The guest eats a little bit but not any more because he is too full. Still the Ethiopian friend begs his gust to eat some more. This time, the Ethiopian friend holds a big piece of food with his hand and puts it into the mouth of his guest (this is called gursha), and the guest may take two or three gursha. Finally, the Ethiopian friend would say to his guest: “What is your problem? Why don’t you eat some more, my friend? You have never been to my house before? This is your first time to come to my house. Please, eat some more!)

Forced religion: Christianity came to Ethiopia first to the Ethiopian royal family, and then it was imposed upon the common people who had no idea what Christianity was. It took a long time to help the Ethiopian people to understand the value of Christianity, and why Christ died for them.

In the old days, Ethiopian parents forced their boys to marry whom the parents of the boys would like their boys to marry. Girls were also forced to marry at the young age so that their parents could enjoy seeing their grand children before the parents died because in the old days and in some places in Ethiopia some people didn’t live more than 46 or 56 years.

Any way, in Ethiopia and in many other countries people are told what to do, how to do it, and why they do it. It may be good in some countries to be told what to do, and it may not be good in other countries to be told what to do. By any means, we have to firmly respect our good cultures, and we have to abandon the bad ones.


09/04/12 @ 15:11
Comment from: Shame on Messay Kebede [Visitor]
Shame on Messay Kebede

Mesay Kebede was one of Mengistu Hailemariam’s kakitocrat intellectuals. He, like many of his derg colleagues, is bitter at his ouster from position of influence. He blame Meles for it. And so he character assassinate him and his party at every opportunity.

Although he hasn’t been to Ethiopia since in more than 2 decades, Messay Kebede is certain the outpouring of grief by Ethiopians towards their deceased leader was government orchestrated. It is this kind of condescending views of the Ethiopian people that has alienated Ethiopians from the opposition. The toxic opposition has nothing else to offer the public but hatred and cynicism.

09/04/12 @ 15:37
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Gragn Ahmed (visitor),

O my dear friend, Gragn Ahmed, I am glad you have read my post and found it balanced and impressive.

Thank you for the compliment!

09/04/12 @ 16:00
Comment from: marcus [Member]  

I am not a Philosopher, Sociologist, Economist or a Political ‘Scientist’, but I like to read on these subjects in my own time.

What I observed so far is that although the above Social Science subjects are very fascinating and worth studying, the type of people who are attracted to specialise in them are not very bright (intelligent). Thus is the case of Messay, Alemayehu, Mesfin W/Mariam and the rest.

I have said elsewhere that the only opposition leader I admired was Prof. Asrat Woldeyes. Despite his latter day errors he had a first class mind (RIP).

Messay accuse Meles of creating “landlocked Ethiopia”.

Well, what does Messay know about Eritrea, other than blind speculation? Does he know anything about its societal dynamics?

My personal position, supported by facts and analysis, is that the Eritrean secession issue is the agenda of Muslim lowlanders. It was incubated, initiated and given shape by Egypt. The proof is that the ELF was established at Al Azhar University in Cairo. The Christian highlander has no business or profit from this issue.

But for one reason or another, the Christian highlander was conned and dragged into the conflict. By the time of the evil Derg, matters have gone out of hand (with the idiotic diplomatic skills of the Derg) and things were hotting up in Eritrea. The EPLF (a Christian guided and dominated force) had beaten the Derg with hands down. Separation was an accomplished fact; Meles and the EPRDF were in no position to prevent it.

Had Meles and his party tried to oppose it they would have been smashed to pieces. I also know for fact EPLF had a plan to mess up the entire Ethiopia.

On the other hand, Meles calculation was smart and had a high degree of probability of success. He calculated that “a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”. So, not only did Meles manage to save his group and also, I can boldly say, save Ethiopia, but he was hoping that the Christian dominated EPLF would eventually steer Eritrea toward some form of unification with Ethiopia (even Isaias was talking about this topic openly).

As usual, quick and smart thinking by Meles; but there were other factors that Meles did not take into account such as Isaias egoistic character and volatile nature.

Now, Messay, if you want to bring Eritrea back to the fold you are free to organise and start an armed struggle. We will then see how long you will last.

Eritrea can be brought back to the brotherly Ethiopian fold, not by following Messay’s and Derg’s tried and failed method. But by understanding the dynamics of Eritrean society, and using a thinking and problem solving approach.

Do you hear me you stone head Messay? The method I described is a more rational and intelligent one.

09/04/12 @ 16:00
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TEDDY

Hey Mr SLAVARY (The Thug laughing on himself with a funny nickname “Idependent"),nobody is a VILLAGE IDIOT as you and your Thuggy bros worshipping for more than a 2 decades a blood sucker tyrant as the Almighty God following
his stupidities and lies as a herd of Donkeys and Shepherds !!!LEKAMMI DEDEB BANDA !!!Anten billo degmo Ye
Plato ,Hegelna Kant Awaki ,Ye Heineken Termusena Ye Yohanes Aramde
Melekia Tefelassafi !!!!

09/04/12 @ 16:27
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TEDDY

Weshe Gud !!! Tchiffenee is speaking
“FRENCH” …LOL . Hey Tchiffenee where did study French ,certainly not à la Sorbonne .Maybe à la Lianz
FRANZESE but surely at Tchemane de Far be TCHAT MIRKANNA !!!!

09/04/12 @ 16:32
Comment from: Let us be responsible [Visitor]
Let us be responsible

My last advise to TEDDY

Just express your opinion with out insulting others, who have different opinion. It is natural we differ. Put your opinion on issues, not on people you haven’t see them.

09/04/12 @ 16:37
Comment from: GONDAR [Visitor]
GONDAR

YOU WROTE THIS
rom: Let us be responsible [Visitor]
My last advise to TEDDY

Just express your opinion with out insulting others, who have different opinion. It is natural we differ. Put your opinion on issues, not on people you haven’t see them.
09/04/12 @ 16:37

WHERE HAVE BEEN YOUR FUCKEN MASTER INSULTED US FOR 37 YEARS,
FUCK YOUR ASSHOLE

09/04/12 @ 16:41
Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
Almaz

In the last several days we have witnessed articles by Diaspora intellectuals trying to explain to the rest of us that the mourning we saw on ETV and other media outlets is not genuine. To make sure that none of us underestimates the depth of their “analysis” they include prefixes like Dr. or PhD etc to their name. The irony is that these learned men happen to provide explanations that contradict each other, and the rest of us are left confused and bewildered. May be there is a much simpler explanation to the much publicized act of mourning we saw on TV screens. Could it be that the Ethiopian people were genuine in their grief over the untimely death of somebody whom they saw as selfless and has spent much of his adult life fighting for the good of the country, as opposed to our learned men in Diaspora who spent a their life to live a comfortable life in the west. Meles, whether one agrees with his approach or not, went to the woods to fight an injustice not knowing if he would live to see a more just society. Thousands of his fellow friends died for a better Ethiopia, and he was lucky to carry on their torch and lead the country to what it is now, clearly a much better Ethiopia in any measure. Who among these learned mean, and armchair analysts has done a minute fraction of what Meles did for Ethiopia. Professor Messay, can you please tell us what good you have done for the country, except serving as an ideologue for a brutal regime (the dergue) in your prime years. All I know is that you write your articles criticizing hard working people from the safety and comfort of the west. The world is full of people of your kind.

09/04/12 @ 17:17
Comment from: Adebayo [Visitor]
Adebayo

@Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]

Great analysis supported by facts

09/04/12 @ 17:42
Comment from: extraterrestrial [Member]  
extraterrestrial

Saying the Ethiopian people are pretending or were forced to cry in this scale both in terms of the number of people and also the intensity of the cry is AN INSULT TO BOTH THE READER AND THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE.

They are literally saying don’t believe what you see but, what we are telling you about what you see, THIS IS AN INSULT TO ALL OF US, THEY ARE SAYING YOU ALL ARE STUPID PEOPLE.

09/04/12 @ 17:43
Comment from: Yitbarek Mesfin [Visitor]
Yitbarek Mesfin

Such comments by the professor and his ilk are irrational, and set in stone, and therefore not amenable to reason, so it is futile entering into a debate with them. However the professor must credit us with the intelligence to know when people are mourning genuinely from the heart. Otherwise he is insulting the Ethiopian people again by implying that they are faking their sorrow on government dictat. He should phone his relatives, if he has any left in Ethiopia, and check it out for himself. They may be horrified by his assertion.

This is another self-goal as they say in football: the professor and his friends are kicking themselves into more and more irrelevance to the Ethiopian people with every comment they make.

09/04/12 @ 18:08
Comment from: marcus [Member]  

Messay, I challenge you to a debate on how to solve the Eritrean issue.

The greatest Mathematical Physicist, Albert Einstein, defined insanity as follows:

Insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Messay, you are insane and addicted to failure.

09/04/12 @ 18:12
Comment from: popo [Visitor]
popo

Look guys! let’s grow up. We don’t need to insult each other. We should have a habit of respecting differences on views or opinion. Otherwise we are still not prepared to any of democracy or human right we all fighting for! This is where we should start respecting or entertaining differences in all aspect of social or political life journey…
The other thing i want to make clear is that we should also have a habit of looking into the future rather than stuck on past events or situation. Meles is gone forever, so no need to mourn or praise or any associated irrelevant points that has no value for our future! So let’s start think or work toward our future!!!!! God bless Ethiopia

09/04/12 @ 18:46
Comment from: Tamirat [Visitor]
Tamirat

Who should we believe: Professor Messay, the Dergue ideologue or the following world leaders? Messay would probably tell us that they are Woyanes too!

1) It was with sadness that I learned of the passing of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia. He deserves recognition for his lifelong contribution to Ethiopia’s development, particularly his unyielding commitment to Ethiopia’s poor.

Barack Obama, President of United States

2) Prime Minister Meles Zenawi was an inspirational spokesman for Africa on global issues and provided leadership and vision on Somalia and Sudan. His personal contribution to Ethiopia’s development, in particular by lifting millions of Ethiopian out of poverty, has set an example for the region.

David Cameron, Prime Minister of UK

3)I am profoundly saddened by the untimely passing of my close friend and cherished colleague, Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia. He leaves behind an indelible legacy of major contributions to Ethiopia, Africa and the world. His loss will be greatly felt in so many places in so many ways.

Susan Rice, United States’ Permanent Representative to the United Nations (UN)

4) I was deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia. He was an important and influential voice in Africa, and we especially valued his role in promoting peace and security in the region.

Hilary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, United States

5) Prime Minister Meles Zenawi was a respected African leader. He demonstrated his strong personal commitment over many years to improving the lives of not just his own but all African people, thorough his work on African unity, climate change, development and in promoting peace and security.

Jose Manuel Barroso, President of European Commission (EC)

6) It is with great sadness that I learned of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi’s death. He was a hugely significant figure in Ethiopian history, in particular helping guide his country from extreme poverty to an area of economic growth and development.

Tony Blair, Former Prime Minister of United Kingdom (UK)

7) It is an absolute tragedy for Africa and the people of Ethiopia to mourn such an exceptional leader who contributed as an active role-player in various continental and global initiatives.

Jacob Zuma, President of South Africa

8) Meles Zenawi was an economic transformer. He was an intellectual leader for the continent. He stood out in our regional meetings because of his intellect and his ability to respond and to lead dialogue on matters relating to African development. He will be missed in all of our meetings and all our endeavour.

Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia

9) Meles Zenawi was a great leader, an intellectual, someone who was very dedicated to Pan-Africanism. One will remember him for the great effort he put in transforming the Ethiopian economy.

Raila Odinga, Prime Minister of Kenya

09/04/12 @ 18:49
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

Marcus,

I absolutely lost a basic trust in how we diaspora Ethiopians scholars totally lack good, mature, and well balanced analysis. It is hard to find people who know how to solve regional crisis. Their analysis is very far from reality and out of touch. They still think armed struggle is the solution. Allah has intervened and killed those who stood on our way. This is golden moment. Instead of thinking a cosmetic change why we not go to our respective Allah and come to terms for the sake of humanity for the sake of love and peace,? Why we think interms of Ethiopia as such? Why we are unable to perceive our problems and solutions beyond our beloved country? Instead of blaming past events and their persona why not we find a stronger base to go forward? Who are our real enemies? Are their real enemies by the way? Are we good to always oppose every thing Arab? Or every thing Israel or America? Have wee as people respect for our country men? Do we still need to bring about our past miserable life and put it in front of us thus making it difficult to move forward? Are we difficult people or practical people? Is selling our resources the only hope forward? What is that we Africans are doing while Asia is booming? Why we are unable to sit down with our enemies?


09/04/12 @ 19:00
Comment from: MACK [Visitor]
MACK

Some one has to become famous for god or bad reasons. This guy chose for the bad reason to be famous on. It is clear and good reason for the Ethiopian people to know and realize how the so called few diasporas educated people are good for nothing. When these people write their entire BS’S it gives very much self explanatory to the Ethiopian people to neglect the wild animals from the domestic. I would suggest you to keep on writing your usual BS that exposes you to the public how good you are. The more you write all these BS’S the more you are going to be bullied from the real Ethiopians.
MACK

09/04/12 @ 19:18
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

Correction

I absolutely lost a basic trust in as we diaspora Ethiopian scholars totally lack good, mature, and well balanced analysis. It is hard to find people who know how to solve regional crisis. Their analysis is very far from reality and out of touch. Some still think armed struggle is the solution. Allah has intervened and killed those who stood on our way. This is golden moment. Instead of thinking about cosmetic change why we not go to our respective Allah and come to terms with ourselves for the sake of humanity and for the sake of love and peace? Why we think interms of Ethiopia only as such? Why we are unable to perceive our problems and solutions beyond our beloved country? Instead of blaming past events and their persona why not we find a stronger base to go forward? Who are our real enemies? Are there real enemies by the way? Is it good to always oppose every thing Arab? Or every thing Israel or America? Have we as people any respect for our country-men? Do we still need to bring about our past miserable life and put it in front of us thus making it difficult to move forward? Are we difficult people or practical people? Is selling our resources the only hope forward? What is that we Africans are doing while Asia is booming? Why are we unable to sit down with our enemies?

09/04/12 @ 19:46
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TEDDY

Thank you Gondar ,all these Thugs are taking patriotic websites as their
owns as ETV ,Aiga ,Walta ENA ,Tigraionline and Ethiopiafirst.com into which they are used of Fake news and naked propagandas .Confronted to facts and do not have the means and the Guts to challenge their only ways
is barking once again as being mistreated by those who do not share their ideology of hates .By the way
Mr .Supposing Being Responsable your complaints concern at a first place your own bros infecting this websites with their usual insanities
against the patriots .Before poiting your finger on others .Better you teach your ill educated Thuggy Bros using limited vocabularies such as :Eri guys ,Slut ,Dergist ,Neft ,Neftegnia,Wannabe Princess ,Gayman ,Amharas ,Tefram Gondere ,Parking lot ,Gemotch 7 and many more insanities …So do not expect from any of us ,to let them insult us and to say Amen to their childish Lies and stupid propagandas .

09/04/12 @ 20:06
Comment from: New Ethiopia [Visitor]
New Ethiopia

Diasporas come and work with us otherwise please keep your opinion for yourself ! ዲያስፖራዎች መጥታችሁ ከኛ ጋር ስሩ ካልበለዚያ ዝም ብሉ!! እንስራበት!!

09/04/12 @ 20:30
Comment from: popo [Visitor]
popo

Please let’s grow up! Different views or opinions are the core values of 21st century matured beings! It is a fact that excessive mouring can’t be any solution for our future problem. History will always require time; so let’s not rush for the conclusion! Today’s hero can be tomorrow’s zero or vice versal; eg. Lenin, mandela, gandi, sadam, gadafi, minlik….etc.

09/04/12 @ 20:32
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Dear Mario [Visitor),

Thank you for the following disparaging and heart-breaking quotations and also for telling me our new Prime Minister is from Wolaytas; I never knew that.

“What has Axum civilization (Axum obelisks) got to do with the Wolayitas?”

“If a donkey is loyal to himself and the party, he/she will get the job".

“In the reign of woyanes, water flows upwards, i. e., disobeying the law of gravity".

We should remember what the Holy Scripture says about places considered insignificant in the eyes of men:

“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times” (Micah 5:2).

Had Meles Zenawi realized this Biblical fact, he could have never said those two dehumanizing quotations to the beautiful people of Wolaytas. It is very sad he had said such degrading remarks about his people.


09/04/12 @ 20:41
Comment from: Mazash [Visitor]
Mazash

Teddy,

I noticed the same thing. Yirgacheffee has been learning French, but what he wrote doesn’t make any sense.

09/04/12 @ 20:56
Comment from: HagereEthiopia [Visitor]
HagereEthiopia

??????????????????????????????????????Does anyone know how this man, Meles, died and what or who killed him?????????????????????/?????

09/04/12 @ 21:10
Comment from: Awashdar [Visitor]
Awashdar

Assta…

The first half of your comment was facts! until you mentioned Meles then you multiplied added qimema-qimem you even divided a paragraph counting 1-16 to make it look big crime!. Bro, go fool idiots like your friend Grabis Ahmed. I can not say much about the past because i was not around to witness it in person other than i hear from elders and read bits of history here an there, But i was around during Derg and fully matured during eprdf era, so i don’t have to follow your 1-16 garbage because i witnessed it in person.

You wrote - “1. He held the Ethiopian flag up side down and desecrated it as a piece of rag.”
The problem is in the past people taught in schools, churches, military colleges etc what Ethiopiawinet means, what the flag(green gold red) means, so these people from that era worship their king, worship the cloth(flag) just like Tabot cloth, they value flag more than human being. So if someone tell them the fact they don’t get it because their mind is fixed what flag means to them and they taught their children the same way. Meles is practical ofcourse flag is a piece of cloth, we human say a flag represent a country, this does not mean we should worship a piece of cloth. what matters most valuing citizens more than flag, this is what Meles was trying to explain but twisted mind diaspora from old era keep banging about it.

“2. He came to power by bullets not by ballots.”
Bro, tell us how was it possible to come to power by ballot during brutal Derg regime? you mentioned derg murdered your majesty and buried him under his office also murdered Abune Theoph, 150,000 youth in red terror, 60 ex government officials etc, you could have counted 1-16 paragraphs.

“3. He appointed Abune Paulos as the Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church while the legally-appointed Patriarch Abune Merkorios is still alive and well.”
You mentioned Derg killed the previous church leader Abune Theo, But Meles did not kill Abune Merkros instead replaced him, you know well the church is powerful how can you change a system without modernizing the church?

“4. He murdered over 200 innocent Ethiopians in 2005 and refused to be accountable for the slaughter.”
It was unfortunate young people life wasted, even Meles said in foreign medias it was regrettable people died. Im not defending the regime action at all but the opposition leadership played part trying to overthrow the regime, infact they spoiled the game. Meles was flexible in those days open for multi party rule, but they were in hurry today or no tomorrow, can you imagine if we had Hailu Shawel and Brehanu Nega in power? just look at them now they are scattered everywhere.

“5. He abused human rights by incarcerating journalists and his political opponents.”
Yes there is some truth in that. but our journalists both pro the regime and against the regime are not independent mind. I have to roam from website to website from radio station to radio station to make my own conclusion because there is no ethiopian media that tells you the truth as it is.

“6. He considered the Amharas and the Oromos as big threats to his government and killed many of them.
The majority Oromos will rule when the time comes, this does not mean one ethnic supremacy Felach-Korach.

“7. He annexed Wolkait-Tegedie and some regions from Wollo province to his province – Tigre”
If Tigray remains part of Ethiopia then doesn’t matter but if the time comes Tigray to go separate way then we check historical boundaries fact and solve it without big issue, the people who live in that land determine their future not you or meles will decide for them.

“8. He gave some fertile lands from Gondar to Sudan.”
I don’t know the whole fact, but do you really think he gave fertile land to Sudan with no reason specially that part supposedly part of Tigray.

“9. He divided the Ethiopian people through the ethnic lines and enriched his own ethnics – the Tegaru”
you tell us how would you have done it better. Meles and his colleagues went to bush by tplf name thanks to Derg for creating chaos, tplf was not the first, western somali liberation front now Onlf, OLf, Edu, Ihapa, Eplf,etc. when Tplf became successful under leadership of Meles late 1980’s they decided to extend the struggle beyond Tigray, to do so they had to negotiate with other groups such as Oromo Liberation Front who already well established struggle movemen, How the hell Meles could have recreated OLF or Onlf? The only option he had either let everyone take his region divided ethiopia for ever or by using already established LFs create federal government, at least in this way ethiopia was saved from worst outcome. There was nothing he could have done about Eplf at the time of chaos, neither he had the means to fight Eplf nor the logic, Like they said “Ye qotun Awerd Bla ye Bebebtuan Talech".

“10. He planned to proclaim Tigre as an independent nation even though it is one of the tiniest provinces.”
That was their movement manifesto at the time but that changed. you got to have road map how to reach A to B and then plan for C to D.

“11. He forced the Ethiopian citizens to vote for him in 2010, and they voted for him without their wills.”
well, that is the name of the game. people realized the oppositions are divided even within a single party, and the ruling party learned lesson from 2005 election.

“12. He squandered the hard-working Ethiopians’ money and bankrupted the country.”
maybe you have not been to the country long time. Addis is not recognizable, didn’t we say Meles was smart beggar, at least he brought some money into the country, there are good stuff built up and down the country, but it could have been better. Your majesty spent a lot more money on himself.

“13. He rejected the unanimous consent of the Africans’ heads of states to erect a statue in front of the OAU head quarter for Emperor Haile Selassie, the founder of OAU, but Meles considered King Haile Selassie an Amhara king.”
I agree with that the emperor statue should have been erected with the other founders, give credit where due. I don’t know the reason behind it. However didn’t Meles fought to keep AU headquarter in Addis? in a African head of states meeting didn’t Meles say ” it was Haile silassi the reactionary who trained Mandella, It was Mangistu who helped Zimbabwe against Rhodesia, we stood alone for Africa in the UN”

“14. He lied to the Ethiopian people that he would leave office when his first term was ended, but he didn’t.”
At least he promised and reshuffled his old weyanea colleagues including those close to him since the struggle days replaced them with younger generation, deputy PM is an example. It wasn’t popular decision to make but he was decisive visionary plans ahead. Your majesty ruled for 40 years plus as a foreign minister adviser under empress Zewditu reign, he wanted to rule until he walks with four legs Dadde like a baby but God sent him devil Mangistu to deal with him.

“15. He gave important positions to the Tegaru army officers at the cost of the Oromos, the Amharas, and the other Ethiopian ordinary soldiers”
well, tplf still the dominant party in eprdf but that will change with time when democracy take root, when no more threat from oppositions or from north of Tigray.

09/04/12 @ 21:25
Comment from: zemenu [Visitor]
zemenu

http://www.ethioforum.org/?p=12098
Please listen to this video.

09/04/12 @ 21:41
Comment from: Lima [Visitor]
Lima

@Awashdar (aka Agazit Woman)

We are tired of reading your repeated comments with different name.

You (Awashdar and Agazit woman) are not going to deceive anyone but yourself.

The agenda of Tigray supremacy will end soon. Sandwiched between Eritrea and Ethiopia from south, infertile Tigray without Ethiopia will be unbearable to survive for most of corrupt Tigrains.

Replying to your nonsense comments rationally is just a waste of time.

09/04/12 @ 22:14
Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
Gragn Ahmed

Awashdar [Visitor]

You simply lack common sympathy for fairness, justice and also death to 200 innocent lives, and the many who constantly get harrassed, intimidated and jailed for the simple reason that they are not willing to be members of the ruling party. You can not dismiss mistakes as simple killings, this or that. Any responsible government will not kill lives unless it is a dictator. While people protested your boss began killing just for that. Not long ago in 1997 Wayane killed innocent Muslim for refusing to accept Wayane agents. What sort of modernization is that you are proposing? Gay marriage, alcohol abuse, etc.. should it be by force? Who controls my mind you and Meles? Who loves my counrty, you or Meles or me?

Who is Meles in the first place. You can not fake love for your country. He was illegitimate to start with. Now, he wants a big mosouleum. Time will come when all this fuss will go away. Meles was a reckless leader. He simply loved himself.

The so called development of Meles came through outside leasing of land for cheap money. Any body could do that. The roads that were built were naturally the outcome of China’s eagerness to get foothold in Africa. If someone sells his house for cheap who won’t buy it?

So, tell us if Meles thought of his country for a second until his death? All his worries were to perpetuate exploitation of the people and the country for cheapest bidder. That is so reckless, cheap fame and in the long term very damaging to us.

He never built strong sense of countriship and citizenship for his people. He mocked at one ethnic over the other. pitted one group over the other and tried to saw mistrust and sense of insecurity, shamefulness and embarassment to the country. If he really was loved by his people why would he not defend himself at Obama Economic conference at Camp David in 212 when Abebe Gelaw struck him at lightening speed. Infact, he was a disgrace to act the way he acted and he lost his composure to even ashame his supporters and even more his country men. If he had any tiny care for his country he would never be so much at pain with himself at that juncture. Any pyschological analysis will confirm my point.

He had no shield to hide into at that point in time. His shield should have been his people but he sold them for the cheapest investors in the West and Asia.

Truly it will be no far when Ethiopians will revenge this orchestrated conspiracy that is being plotted against the poor Ethiopians. We inherited good cultures and if there is modernization that we did not know about we will happily take it. But the Wayane theives have no modernization whatsoever. Those agents they put in Mesjid or Church have no clue what patriotism is, what good family is or what modern people mean. They treat their own people like lowly creature, never protest any public atrocities that the government does. They are simply dolls and toys.
Tell me one religious figure who denounced excessive use of force against innocent people under Wayane? This alone shows how our religious value has gone to the extreme. All religious people are detached from their own attendees, far away from their feelings, and never even cared to respond to their needs. Simply they are instruments of Wayane. Now I say if I had to go to pray in Ethiopia, then Mesjid will not be one of them any more. The Mesjids are increasingly becoming part of the security apparatus of the Wayane. All imams repeat what Wayane says and they act as more political people with no deep spiritual sense inside them. No good words coming out and no good manners to emulate.

They drive good cars and live in luxury. Yet the average people are toiling the soil. In fact, I urge all religious people not to even participate in any of religious activities.

09/04/12 @ 23:57
Comment from: Alula Yemesker [Visitor]
Alula Yemesker

A Pledge not to be silenced by the loud Silencers and intimidators!

David S. Sep 3, 2012- It has been one day since the burial of the late Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Meles Zenawi. Since the day that the world heard of his passing, the fateful Monday August the 21st, Ethiopians across the world, especially the ones at home has been in a deep and inconsolable sorrow. The guilt feeling of ifs and the overall understanding that we have not given him the credit he was long due seems to overwhelm many. No one in his right mind, including his closest friends and allies, did not expect such an outpouring up on his death. His family’s grief has become a countries mourning. A region’s hope is broken and Africa seems to scream in one voice. What an unfinished business. In such a tender age, with so much to give, without deliberation and planning, the one of a kind leader of the emerging country passed the button to the next generation.

The Eulogy of this great man was given by presidents and high level dignitaries from all across the world. One by one, from President Yuri Museveni of Uganda to Omar Al Bashir of Sudan, Paul Kagami of Rwanda to Jacob Zuma of South Africa, Susan Rice of USA to European Commission delegate, reaffirm what has been the constant team since his death: This was a Prime Minister with purpose, uncanny brain and a gift to negotiate. With a central team of lifting Ethiopia from Poverty and changing the fate of Africa at the same time, he fought an uphill battle and made a difference. For Ethiopian’s, this was an affirmation of our status in Africa. A source of pride to all of us. Alas, he is gone! If he could just come back for a day and saw the outpouring of Ethiopians, the respect he generated and the collected shame we felt for not recognizing his did when he was alive, I guess he would have said “I have done and people have seen it” and would have rested in peace. Well, he will not come back and we will be left with the heavy burden of knowing this.

For many Ethiopians who are mourning inconsolably, it did not mean that he was a person without fault. Not at all. He is human and he might have stumbled during the course. There are many issues that I always wonder why he decided this way versus the other, that if I had a chance yearn to ask him to hear his side of the story. I am sure many have such burning issues to pose. But, all his “failures” were in attempting to tackle the abject poverty and destitute life of his people. He has one simple but also complex task: to lift millions of Ethiopian from the misery that they have been entrenched for Melina!! Not a small task by any measure. To do this against the tide of near doers, who neither know hard work or attempt it but were full of excuses and sharp tongue to lash out against all that is good, who have a broad dirty brush that smear everything that has been done with one stroke. The sad thing is the majority was silent: those who support his ideology and path, those who are neutral and want to hear and see more to make their own informed decision were all silenced by the loud mouth of the few opposition. They claim that they are opposition, but I call them loud silencers; intimidators who do not want to hear anything except their echo! Can you imagine how much good he could have delivered to Ethiopia if we the Diaspora were with him in one page? Every time we see him in a meeting, if we were civil and discuss with him our admiration, his limitations and what we thought is wrong? If we gave him the chance, opportunity and time to be judged favorably by foreign countries and organizations who have the capacity to humanize or dehumanize a person/a country?
After his death, now we know that they actually had much better way of studying him than what we tried to portray him to be. Alas, for fear of the backlash, all except few never openly admired him nor allowed him to represent us in the corridors of the higher offices in much more way than he had already done till his death. What a shame to us; to a country who never had a president as visionary as him, as intellect as him and respected worldwide and to not recognize all this before his death is something that will hunt us forever.

Alas, that never happened and we missed the opportunity, he missed to see our love before his death and our beloved country might be the big looser in all this. What we gained because of him is without limit but what we could have gained with our support to his ideals is what we will never know but could easily imagine.

What is going to come remains to be seen but a unity that has been an illusion to Ethiopia and Ethiopians seem to visit us up on his death. May we have the blessing, the wisdom and fortitude to keep it like this! we should not make a mistake again. Let us give the benefit of the doubt to the next leaders and help them succeed. Their success should mean Ethiopia’s prosperity. Opposition without reasoning, intimidation to those who does not share opposition’s view must stop. One thing that we have to promise to ourselves is that we shall never be intimidated by those loud mouth hallow opposition forces who does not give a room to a different view. Difference is great and always a source of growth. What we need is this difference to flow in a media of civility, individual respect and mutual interest. If we do this in our future political discourse, Prime Minister Meles did not pass in vein. Let us sign a pledge of alliance to do so. Let us start a new and bright Ethiopia now!

09/05/12 @ 02:31
Comment from: marcus [Member]  

Gragn Ahmed said:

“Marcus,
I absolutely lost a basic trust in how we Diaspora Ethiopians scholars totally lack good, mature, and well balanced analysis.”

You are right on this matter.

These people are hypocrites, liars and with limitless dishonesty. They do not tell the poor and innocent people of Ethiopia their political games.

Take the case of Messay, who was a diehard barbaric Derg cadre. He was aiding and abetting the criminal Derg spill the blood of so many innocent young lives. Even if we leave politics aside, Messay was nasty to the poor and hard working University students who are our own brothers and sisters. I recommend that the role of Messay in the death of University students of the Derg’s time should be investigated.

Some from the Diaspora are/were members of the EPRP. The core of the EPRP was an immature group of idealistic young students. The EPRP were good at reading Marx’s and Lenin’s theoretical works but did not have a clue about their practical implementation. They started a childish policy of assassinating Derg officials and supporters in the towns and cities and brought calamity on Ethiopian youth through the fury of Derg’s retaliation (which could have started sooner or later anyway). The ‘Death Wish’ of the EPRP was fulfilled and ‘Red Terror’ arrived.

Later on the EPRP ran away to the countryside to start guerrilla warfare. To cut a long story short, the EPRP did not have a support base and were not creative enough to adapt so they failed miserably again.

Others are the MEISON, the gutter animals, who tried to grab power by acting as Derg’s assistants and ‘fotorinos’ (the ticket men on Addis Ababa city buses). The Derg were not clever but they were not too stupid either.

Remember, Mengistu was a streetwise thug, with experience of street brawling and fighting around ‘tej bets’ in Harar, Dire Dawa and Jijiga, he could not be outfoxed. The MEISON who could not manage to escape were rounded up, put in prisons, tortured and killed.

The other loud individual, still in Ethiopia, is Mesfin Woldemariam He is an opportunistic, dishonest person and a total joke. I do not understand why people take this man seriously.

During my student days, I remember Mesfin saying in Amharic: “Semay Aitares, Negus Aikeses”. When the Derg came to power he was made assistant chairman of the ‘Investigation committee’, as a result of whose work 60 or 61 former officials in the imperial government were killed by firing squad without due process of law. At that time, Mesfin never squeaked the phrase “Human Rights”; his silence was deafening. Now he is repeating this phrase like a parrot a million times a day.

To be honest, the root problem of Ethiopia starts from our position in the neighborhood. The rise of Islam in the Red Sea gulf increased violence, religious intolerance and division among our people. All the other issues are minor and can be tackled by thinking carefully and having a problem solving approach.

As you are a Muslim this might offend you, but remember some generations ago your ancestors might have been Christians, Jews or Animists.

09/05/12 @ 05:03
Comment from: Heny [Visitor]
Heny

Mario
atdkem. aysakalhm.

09/05/12 @ 05:52
Comment from: Solomon [Visitor]
Solomon

Mesay - DeDeB AHiYa NeH. Meles has done 500 years of work in just 20 to 30 years of his life. You will die without doing any single useful thing all your life. Just talk, talk, talk, talk, Rubbish!!! DeDeB AHiYa!

09/05/12 @ 05:57
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
Mario

Heny [Visitor] said:

Mario
atdkem. aysakalhm.

I have already accomplished what I wanted. My message has passed through and hundreds have read it. That is now irreversible and your “atdkem. aysakalhm” talk is a waste of time.

Henry, please stop being a waste space here.

09/05/12 @ 07:43
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]
Mario

Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
wrote:

“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times” (Micah 5:2).

Thank you Assta. Theis biblical quote of yours perfectly fits what I wanted to say. The sad thing is, the likes of Meles don’t even want to see hear, or read how their “great leader” denigrated Ethiopians let alone critisize him.

Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]

Dear Mario [Visitor),

Thank you for the following disparaging and heart-breaking quotations and also for telling me our new Prime Minister is from Wolaytas; I never knew that.

“What has Axum civilization (Axum obelisks) got to do with the Wolayitas?”

“If a donkey is loyal to himself and the party, he/she will get the job".

“In the reign of woyanes, water flows upwards, i. e., disobeying the law of gravity".

We should remember what the Holy Scripture says about places considered insignificant in the eyes of men:

“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times” (Micah 5:2).

Had Meles Zenawi realized this Biblical fact, he could have never said those two dehumanizing quotations to the beautiful people of Wolaytas. It is very sad he had said such degrading remarks about his people.

09/04/12 @ 20:41

09/05/12 @ 08:04
Comment from: Tamrat Tamrat [Visitor]
Tamrat Tamrat

Do you want to understand more of meless shabianess then read the following: http://awate.com/dear-prime-minister-meles/

09/05/12 @ 10:23
Comment from: Tefera [Visitor]
Tefera

are the millions people we saw realy ordered or forced to cry and they actually obeyed and sobbed, i doubt it. from the few i spoke none were either in a position to be forced or said they were forced. but i can see how difficult it is for those who strongly oppose and hate meles to accept the very people they are fighting for grieving and sobbing for meles in millions. however its time to move on.

09/05/12 @ 10:24
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Awashdar (visitor),

I can see your agitation, your uneasiness, and your unfounded nervousness whenever someone mentions the evil name of your master, Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi), for a justified reason to remind the young generation that once upon a time an evil man ruled Ethiopia for about 21 years, and that evil man from the Tigre province was Meles Zenawi.

You confirmed your allegiance to the evil man when you said: “The first half of your comment was facts! [sic] until you mentioned Meles….”

I know you don’t want to hear any wrong doings by Meles Zenawi; you want to cover up anything wrong he had perpetrated for over 21 years. I have just mentioned only 16 instead of over 900,000 crimes he had committed since he took power illegally and destroyed the country.

Since you are one of his cadres, your eyewitness testimony about Meles the devil is invalid, and no one in his/her right mind could trust you; therefore, your testimony has been thrown away and put into the trash can.

You are ignorant of identifying the main difference between “respect” and “worship” by calling the past generations “flag worshipers, king worshipers, and Tabot worshipers,” and you are telling me Meles was teaching the people not to worship the Ethiopian flag.

Do you really have any idea what a flag stands for? Our Ethiopian rainbow-style ሰንደቅ ዓላማ, our Ethiopian colorful ባንዲራ stands for our unity, for our love of our country, and for our patriotism in protecting our mother land – Ethiopia – from an invading enemy and from an iconoclastic person like you and your master Meles Seitanawi, who had tried to destroy anything Ethiopian: he tried to destroy the Gondar Castle; he tried to destroy the historical Churches of Lalibela; he tried to destroy the Waldiba Monastery; he tried to destroy the Amhara people; he tried to destroy the Oromo people, and he tried to destroy anyone who opposed his satanic actions. Finally, he destroyed himself in a foreign country, and his cadres threw his dead body into the Holy Trinity Church to desecrate the Church, and I will never go again to that Church to worship God as far as Meles’ dead body is resting and decaying in that place.

Let me go back to the precious Ethiopian flag Meles called a piece of rag:

The Ethiopian flag is our badge of honor, our symbol of freedom; it symbolizes our dignity, our culture, our history, our tradition: it defines our hope, our faith in one God, and determines our destiny. When we see it hoisted up on the pole and flowing at the pick, we feel confident and proud we have a living and a vibrant country. When we see it at half-mast, we feel sad that someone very important to the country may have passed away. Our flag express our sorrow, our happiness, and our victory.

It has been one of our valued traditions to respect our flag: when our school children line up around their flagpole, they sing the national anthem as they hoist the flag up on flagpole, and the same thing is true with our armies: they salute the flag during its hoisting and remain at attention until the flag unfurls or until the music is finished playing for the flag. When the school children sing the national anthem as they hoist the flag, and when the armies play the music and salute the flag, it doesn’t mean the school children and the armies worship the flag; what it means is they just respect the flag; they are just expressing their loyalties to the Ethiopian flag.

As the Ethiopian people love their flag, the Ethiopian flag is, nowadays, almost ubiquitous: one can find the Ethiopian flag in the Church, in the public auditorium, in every governmental offices, in the school buildings, in the wedding places, in the market places, in the stores, in the funeral homes, and in many other private and public places. The Ethiopian flag is carried during the Ethiopian holidays during Church processions, and during student graduations from college.

The calling of our flag, which is one of our indispensible heritages, a piece of rag displays the inferiority complex of Meles Zenawi, whose casket was, in fact, covered with the Ethiopian flag that he hated too much, and that he wanted to destroy it completely. What an irony!

Dictator Meles had enough time after he occupied Addis Ababa and looted the citizens’ properties illegally to call the people to elect their rightful reader, but he didn’t. He waited until he amassed billions of dollars and stashed his assets in a foreign bank.

I have said Mengistu Haile Mariam murdered His Majesty, but I have never said he buried him under his office. You better go back and read my post unless you have asthenopia. I understand you have a serious problem in comprehending my post. Does my post say Meles killed Abune Merkorios? Read it again!

You wrote: “…you know well the church is powerful how can you change a system without modernizing the church?”

When His Majesty died, that powerful Church also died with him; what we have now is an enervated, a looted, and a disrespected Church, standing there as a means of shielding criminal Meles and his Abune Paulos. The present Church is a political Church, made in the images of the two evil men – Meles Zenawi and Abune Paulos, both of them from the Tigray province. Both evil men never tried to modernize the Church but enriched them selves by selling the Church’s artifacts and various valuable Church properties.

In 2005, members of the opposing party were demonstrating peacefully because Meles had rigged the ballots; they had never attempted to overthrow the corrupt regime; all of them were unarmed civilians, but out of the blue, Meles ordered his death squad and slaughtered over 200 young men and young women. After 21 years in power, Meles finally died with the blood of these young men and young women in his hand, and history will never forget him for his unpardonable sins.

You wrote shamelessly: “I have to roam from website to website from radio station to radio station to make my own conclusion because there is no ethiopian [sic] media that tells you the truth as it is.”

How dare you make such a ridiculous statement without thinking seriously? Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi) had already jailed the truth-teller Ethiopian journalists and some of them went into exile. Those who were left could not tell the truth because if they did they would end up in jail. Do you know some Ethiopian journalists are on death row and some on life imprisonment? Meles had never wanted people to tell the truth, and he had made the young generation a generation of lies and deceptions. If Meles were a truthful person, he could have explained to the Ethiopian people his disease that killed him so that the people would take care of themselves from that lethal disease.

Meles took Welkait-Tegedie and some parts of Wollo by force without the permissions of the people of those fertile lands and annexed those lands to the barren land of Tigray. He did this in a spirit of making Abay Tigray an independent state. Of course, when the appropriate time comes, Welkait-Tegedie and parts of Wollo will go back to their mother land, and still the Tegaru will be allowed to come to those areas to work as laborers as they have been doing it for centuries.

It was not in the interests of the Ethiopian people that Meles had created divisions among the people of Ethiopia, pitting one tribe against another tribe. His main reason for dividing the country was to use the old French system of governing the French people, “divide and rule.” I will never forget his evil scheme!

You accused my Majesty had “spent a lot of money on himself.” My Majesty gave his palace to the Ethiopian people to use it for their children. My Majesty built the theological college in Addis Ababa. My Majesty built the Holy Trinity Cathedral Church, where the body of the evil Meles is buried. My Majesty built the Debre-Lebanos Monastery Church. My Majesty built the Axum Church in Tigray. My Majesty built the Asebot Monastery in Harar. My Majesty opened boarding schools for the Ethiopian students. My Majesty sent hundreds of Ethiopian students abroad for higher education regardless of color, gender, and race. On the other hand, your master Meles Zenawi built no Church at all. He filled Ethiopian University in Addis Ababa with Tegaru students and with Tegaru faculties. He sent thousands of Tegaru students abroad but never students from Oromo, from Amhara, and from other Ethiopian places. He might have sent very few non-Tegaru students oversea for political reasons only.

You commanded me: “Bro. go fool idiots like your fried Granbis Ahmed.”

To tell you the truth, I do not have an idiot friend; if you think Gragn Ahmed is an idiot person, you better think twice. He has been fighting with me for over four years. He wants to spread Islam in Ethiopia, and I want to destroy Islam from the Christian land of Ethiopia. As both of us fight ferociously about our religions, at the end of the day, we still remain friends. It is just like two boxers in the box arena. They fight hard until one of them is knocked out and left covered with blood; however, when the fight is over, you see them shaking hands and hugging each other. This is the civilized way of doing business with one’s opponent.


09/05/12 @ 12:02
Comment from: Assefa [Visitor]
Assefa

This guy needs brain replacement. Every point he mentioned doesn’t make any sense at all. It’s said that he has been away from the country for nearly two decades and never visited in between but is quick enough to criticize the working people of Ethiopia. This is ridiculous, especially when it comes from people who claim very proudly that they are intellectuals.
Here is the deal: Instead of being quick enough to write such stupid article, you had better work hard on your English and deliver a good lecture.
Any person with a rational mind would judge him based on the comments he received from his students.
Guys, follow the following link to know exactly who this guy is:
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=485054&all=true

09/05/12 @ 13:32
Comment from: wepE [Member]  

How noble and civil the three guys have become?! Great posts from Marcus, Gragn and Assta. Keep it up!

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Igzer EtyoP’yan And’ Yargat, Kek’fum YiT’ebikat.
Wakes up every day proud that I’m an Ethiopian.
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09/05/12 @ 18:38
Comment from: Junkie out [Visitor]
Junkie out

DID MELES ZENAWI OVERDOSED AND DIED BECAUSE HE WAS A DRUG ADDICT OR WAS HE POISONED/MURDERED?

ETHIOPIANS KNOW HE WAS ADDICTED TO KHAT .

KHAT IS NOT EASILY ACCESIBLE IN BELGIUM.

DID HE TURN TO ABUSING OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT LED TO HIS DEATH?

OR DID HIS WIFE AND PERSONAL NURSE POISONED HIM?

09/05/12 @ 23:15
Comment from: Solomon [Visitor]
Solomon

Messay Kebede,"Massey boundless grief over the death of Meles Zenawi” Messay Kebede, The people passed very harsh times and no party or government did able to push poverty from them, give them hope and renew Ethiopian name again like PM Meles Zenawi and his party. We Ethiopian were walking shamefully on earth, I remember the son running away when his mother when his mother showing in his school in America because he don’t want anyone to know he is from Ethiopian. The people truly are going to missed Meles Zenawi. Once if someone asks you from where you are, the subject will change and the topic of the discussion will be Ethiopians and food. We have to make Ethiopia multi-party country to stop any political crisis in the century. PM Meles Zenawi and his party are doing an excellent job in the growth of Ethiopian economy. The economy is moving but lots of work remaining on the political part. Ethiopia needs to be multi-party country, this part is not touched. Instead of shouting each other let as work together with TPLF. Who can do it? Smart educated and the one love Ethiopia and all the people honestly without personal needs. The first time got something to walk about my country thanks PM.

09/06/12 @ 02:27
Comment from: Gondar [Visitor]
Gondar

from: Junkie out [Visitor]
DID MELES ZENAWI OVERDOSED AND DIED BECAUSE HE WAS A DRUG ADDICT OR WAS HE POISONED/MURDERED?

ETHIOPIANS KNOW HE WAS ADDICTED TO KHAT .

KHAT IS NOT EASILY ACCESIBLE IN BELGIUM.

DID HE TURN TO ABUSING OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT LED TO HIS DEATH?

OR DID HIS WIFE AND PERSONAL NURSE POISONED HIM?
09/05/12 @ 23:15

DON’T BE FOOLISH MELES AND ABUNE PAULO BOTH SHOT DEAD,OK

09/06/12 @ 06:23
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

wepE (Member),

I am glad to hear from you, wepE! I thought I had lost you because of my harsh words and, perhaps, uncalled-for comments. We all are Ethiopians who always wish our country unlimited blessings from the Almighty God, and it is my hope when the right time comes we all go back to our country and do our best to eradicate poverty and disease from our people we always love and admire for their resilient in time of various hardships.

09/06/12 @ 08:25
Comment from: Assta B. Gettu [Visitor]
Assta B. Gettu

Correction: resilience,not resilient

09/06/12 @ 08:32
Comment from: Tekle [Visitor]
Tekle

I hope this writer knows what is he is talking about. What drives him to write disparaging comments about my front TPLF and the Modern Day 13th Disciple and The Ever Living Meles Zenawi is the sheer deep-seated bigotry he harbors for everyone from Tigray. What else can it be? Our country is forging ahead economically by leaps and bounds and has already joined the middle income nations. The per capita GDP(Purchasing) has skyrocketed from the abysmal $300 to $3,500 in just 7 years since 2005. That is more than 10 times. Every working family whether in the cities or countryside are eating three times a day now. That is one of the reasons why health related issues such as hypertension and diabetes are becoming common now. But the globally applauded universal health system designed and implemented by our own son Tigray Dr. Tedros Adhanom is capable of controlling that. I think this guy Messay Kebede is a Shewan Amhara or someone groomed and brainwashed by those devils from Menz, Tegulet, Bulga and Mera Bete. That is what they do when they can’t do it themselves. They recruit and brainwash people like this writer just to hate people like me who hails from Tigray. I bet you anything you want that he will kill me if he gets the chance just because I am a Tigrayan.

I have explained to you all in detail a million times before why I have a bone to pick with the Shewan Amharas. They have been trouble makers since the days of Haile Selassie. They were staunch supporters of the Emperor and let more than 3 million of my people starve to death. And when they realized that the Emperor’s days were numbered they began forming groups or so called political parties and fronts.

1) EDU founders were mainly Menze’s
2) EPRP leaders were 99% Menze’s
3) Behind the scene leaders of USUAA, ESUNA, ESUE and MEISON were all Shewan Amharas
4) Shewan Amharas due to their mastery of the Oromo language camouflaged themselves as Oromos and instigated the formation of OLF intended to wipe us out Tigrayans off the face of the earth.
5) The Shewan Amharas because of their mortal hatred toward the people of Tigray initiated a bad example to all other gullible citizens and now we have G7, ONLF, CUD this and CUD that. If their actions leads to violence and gullible people get hurt in the crossfire, it would not be anybody else fault but the Shewan Amharas alone. I was given first hand information by my very trusted friends over the last 25 years that corroborate those Menze’s, Bulgas, Minjare and Mera Betes for the commission of these crimes against humanity. The only solutions is to take them back to their motherland Amhara Saynt where they belong and their trouble making habits can be well controlled. Also, I was told that the region they now occupy possesses untold deposits of natural coal and possibly other rare metals such as Lithium and precious metals. Such natural resources belong to the people of the country and must be harnessed and exploited. Also, at the end of the days due to extensive excavation of the mountains and valleys around them, it will be hazardous health wise for them to stay there. No question about it. They should be moved. Period!!! And they better not try to resist. It may not be a pretty sight. And I will keep sending letters to the Prime Minister and the Speaker of the Parliament until it happens. It is high time which means in this case payback time.

09/06/12 @ 19:47
Comment from: Eritrean [Visitor]
Eritrean

to marcus

well said,your comment is basic reality.you have good vision and positive mind.I have been read alot of comments in this site about Eritrea issue.they never write comments basic facts.most of them,they have feudal mind in 21 century.they always write,we get it back Eritrea and our port.some of them they think,meles was fight for Eritrean independance.they don’t know even,if Eritrean fight for 30 years because of lack of good govern skills,management,haileselesse and mengistu like you said.some of them try to write comments full lie about Eplf.any way if they care Eritrea,they should write comments which can bring the two contriest together.but they never did,they still caim asab port belong to Ethiopia.can you imagine 70 k.m deeply to Eritrea land.they forget what happen to them in 1961-1991 in Eritrea.they can’t even learn from history.they want us to became stock of laugh Egypt and white men.they dream war b/n the two brother people

09/07/12 @ 00:25
Comment from: Brook [Visitor]
Brook

@ Nazret.com Adminstration you need to ban the luntic Guy called ” Tekle” cause he is infighting openly ethnic genocide as he said it in his word ” if they’re resist it may not be a pretty sight.” that imply genocide in world court. You must not let a lunatic sick individual like Tekle alowwed to use your website promoting ethnic cleansing. Please do report him to authority or let us have his contact address we will make sure he gets a right kind assistance. This is not his first time if you allowed him wont be his last. I do believe you’ll take appropriate discipline and by banning this lunatic individual.

09/07/12 @ 03:49
Comment from: pope [Visitor]
pope

Folks,
Please have a look at the website below: you will find very very interesting and useful for all of us!

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/smart-takes/scientists-ethnicity-may-not-exist-genetically-speaking/556
09/07/12 @ 17:48

09/07/12 @ 18:17
Comment from: Tekle [Visitor]
Tekle

Hello Brook:
What do you mean report him? I fought genocide tooth’n nail myself for more than 17 years while your friends kept sending their modern fighter jets killing my people in their tens of thousands. I was telling you all my information from trusted friends was. And I believed them all. The Shewan Amharas were going to the best schools in the world while keeping my people in the dark and starving them to death in their millions. Now I am told that they have been instigating formations of all these so called opposition groups like OLF, ONLF, CUD, G7, Medrek and the rest of them just to wipe my Tigrayan people from the face of the earth. If I ever have the chance, I would like the opportunity to ask a politically active Shewan Amhara what he rely thinks about me and my people from Tigray. But you know what? I don’t believe anyone of them will be able to hold back their hatred toward me to inform me what their attitude is. So take it somewhere else. You might have been one of those criminals who were very close to Mengistu Haile Mariam who committed genocide against my people. And he is a wanted man. You yourself may be a wanted man. Relocating people for development is normal and legal. People in Gambela are voluntarily moving for the sake of development. So will the Menzes, Bulgas, Tegultes and Mera Betes when and if needed. I was informed that that area has vast reserves of natural resources the country needs. And they all want to go back home to Amhara Saynt any way. You are barking at the wrong tree. So shut up and take your complaints to Zimbabwe where your master is having a good time.

09/08/12 @ 01:47
Comment from: Tekle [Visitor]
Tekle

I have a question or two for Ato Messay Kebede.

1) Why does he hate people like me who hails from Tigray?
2) What did I and the people of Tigray do to him for him to develop such a demonic hatred?
3) Why people like him who are Shewan Amharas hate all Tigrayans? I never harm or will never harm any one of them. I was told by my trusted friends that Shewan Amaharas like him have sworn an oath to wipe out every living thing in Tigray. Why?

I will wait for his explanation.

09/08/12 @ 15:33

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