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Ethiopia & Oil, West is almost ready to make Ogaden a mini-Darfur

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07/22/07

  05:45:27 pm, by kirkos   , 1128 words  
Categories: Science and Technology

Ethiopia & Oil, West is almost ready to make Ogaden a mini-Darfur

Ogaden

So what do we have here in Ethiopia? There is the Chinese investor. Then there is the Ogaden region. In it, is Oil, potentially an untapped large source of it. Guess what? America is not that far behind and it is not going to miss this O.O.P. - the Ogaden Oil Party. As expected, It would do anything just to get it and to make sure China doesn't get a single liter of it. Including of course, doing a 180 degree turn to attack its closest friend in Africa, Meles Zenawi, and make the Ogaden look like Darfur as much as possible.

The latest liberal and angry New York Times article should teach Meles Zenawi a good lesson - never trust the American government! NYT's Jeffrey, as usual, made sure that he didn't talk about the real goals of the ONLF rebels and the forces behind the ONLF. Mr. Jeffrey also made sure that he hid the details about the Somali/Ogaden state officials governing the area. His goal is to make the region as lawless as possible, without any governing body, but just full of Ethiopian genocidal troops attacking the local population that is waiting to be saved by the ONLF rebels. This is same old, same old stuff. Despite the American attempt to portray divisions between liberals and the GOPs, in America, these two groups work hand in hand with each other. It is the job of the "pro-poor" and caring liberals to play angels and show such using their mass media & human rights organizations etc. After that, depending on which liberal spiced up crisis story is the most money-making one, the American government would select the best one and proceed. Once it is assured that there is something worth taking (like Oil) it is the job of the tough GOPs to go down and save the locals from massacre, "famine" and "genocide" and bring justice & democrcay by using force. At the end, ironically, the liberals will ofcourse shout and cry about the harshness of the GOPs, not because they really mean it, but just because it sounds good and portrays the picture that not all Americans are as cruel as the resulting bloody American military occupations. This cycle of deceptive American foreign politics, with liberals and GOPs working together, have been going on for a while. But the fact that it is happening against Ethiopia will be unique but not as strange as the fact that Ethiopians are not ready for this game.

Well, the opposition parties in the parliament have already warned Meles Zenawi. Before he went to Somalia, everyone told him of the consequences. Now an overstretched Ethiopian defence forces means that Ethiopia will not be able to easily defeat the combined Eritrea-ONLF-ICU forces in the Ogaden. The saying "time is money" can be applied here. The faster one finishes off the ONLF rebels, the harder it would have been for the anti-China Americans to start the first part of their pre-intervention strategy: which is showing their loving & caring pro-Human Rights side. But so far, it is too late for Meles Zenawi and depending on how much the GOP were laughing about the China oil field massacre in April or depending on how Oil-thirsty they are, it would not be far before the next step of American foreign politics of bloody intervention takes place.

Now the time is evaluation period for the "good old America." What are the tradeoffs for the American government? Should it assist the ONLF to get the Oil and to also be seen as a hero by the pro-ONLF people? Or should it stick with Ethiopia, placing security on top of its agenda? It appears like the only way ONLF can gain control is if Eritrean government invades Ethiopia. So would that be the best scenario for America? It seems like the UK and EU are already siding with the Eritrean government & ONLF. The UK confirmed that only the WEST has the exclusive privilage of defining groups as "terrorist organizations" by overtly protecting the ONLF leaders in London even after the bloody massacre by ONLF. The EU also awarded the Eritrean government with tens of millions of dollars, which has ofcourse become Eritrean money that is mostly used to finance and arm the ONLF. So the American government would not feel alone if it decides to help the ONLF. Certainly, there are a lot of tradeoffs in this game for America.

For Ethiopia, the options have dwindled. Certainly, by Meles Zenawi making such bad decisions, Ethiopia will inherit a historical burden unless Meles quickly gets himself out of this quagmire. It is not like he hasn't been warned. Actually, the warning started many years ago with his reckless policies including the disasterous Article 39 of the constitution that gives rebels the legal power to take any part of Ethiopia they want. And Meles has been trying to make Ethiopia democratic while keepig her sovereignty in question via Article 39. As expected, he has mostly failed so far. Meles should have read books about how much Human Rights was actually respected by the early European Americans while making their empire by exterminating Native Americans. None. In fact, all nations around the world have such bloody beginning to secure their sovereignty and HRW & Amnesty International certainly were not running around centuries ago and picking on American founding fathers for mass murdering the native Americans. But what Meles has done is take the Ethiopian sovereignity question back to the "survival of the fittest" answer. This would mean more wars with the Eritrea-ONLF alliance just to re-secure Ethiopia's boundaries and sovereignity. Instead of building democracy after keeping Ethiopia's sovereignity, Meles is now trying to re-secure Ethiopia's sovereignity from scratch and secure democracy: both at the same time. Which has beeen an impossible thing to do and will be impossible to do so without facing massive diplomatic setbacks. By trivializing Ethiopia's sovereignity via Article 39 and with his other failed policies, the Meles Zenawi adminstration has so far put the issue of democracy in the back seat.

Still the problem in the Ogaden is not as bad as it looks. The locals have representatives in the Ethiopian parliament and most of them are actually supporting the government against the ONLF rebels. The fact that the ONLF rebels are ignoring their constitutional rights to be elected and do whatever they want, if achieved the majority, would be another political weapon against this separatist group. Also if a central Somalia government succeeds in Mogadishu and the rule of law prevails, ONLF's lawlessness would be less tolerable by the powers in the regions. But the WEST factor and interests play a big role in the future of this eastern Ethiopia Ogaden region. Afterall, Oil is Oil.

67 comments

Comment from: ashenafi1 [Visitor]
ashenafi1

Kiros, thank you so much!!!!

You nailed on the head!

07/22/07 @ 21:25
Comment from: ET [Visitor]
ET

The ONLF has to fight ethiopia with guns and bombs not with diplomacy and democratic means. especially i am sad that ONLF rebels killed their own ethnic group citizens. they are a shame! we should not tolerate terrorists who are trying to cut our land.

07/22/07 @ 22:00
Comment from: Beekkaa [Visitor]
Beekkaa

Hi Kirkos,
Do you want to extinct the Ogaden people like the native Americans?You are 300 years back .

07/23/07 @ 01:22
Comment from: Eth1888 [Visitor]
Eth1888

matefo ye ethiopia awedadek be 6 wer weset betentenua endamwata ergetagna negn

07/23/07 @ 01:56
Comment from: Obang Ujilu [Visitor]
Obang Ujilu

This is the truth and unfortunately most elite Ethiopians do not understood. The US congress never say a word when TPLF massacred peaceful demonstrators and incarcerated elected officials and political activists of the opposition after the 2005 post election turmoil, but when the Chinese offered to develope Ogaden, they started wagging their tails. I am not surprised about US but the very Ethiopian people in the diaspora dancing to the tunes of imperalists to rape thier own country. For example it was shameful to see a person with the name Andargachew Tsigie went as far as Gana to to convey the wishes of his masters that Africa should remain ununited, to the conference held to discus on the unity of Africa.
I think, our struggle for a better Ethiopia is going to miss its right path exactly like the downfall of the Imperial or the Military regimes, and the need for a change of TPLF is going to loose significance. It is not going to be wrong to assume the unwillingness of the opposition to forge a common Ethiopian vision and strong dependance on US is a receipe for our disaster as it has been seen in the Ethio-Somalia war in the 1970s. We need to swing to wherever beneficial to us. We need to strategically position ourselves in case when things went wrong. We have to work with former allies like Russia, China and India to counterbalance Africas stability and economic growth.
With respect

07/23/07 @ 02:08
Comment from: YHD [Visitor]
YHD

The ONLF movement has never been about democracy from the beginning, it has been aimed only on a separatist grand agenda architected by nationalist Somali leaders. The forces behind, supporting ONLF are the same old historical Ethiopian enemies. I do not believe the leaders in this group will have any interest in any type of peaceful negotiation other than separation from the main land, Ethiopia. This reality has nothing in common with the democratic, social, political, and economic question of the majority opposition groups in Ethiopia. I believe, this movement is directed against the long term interest and quest for survival of our nation Ethiopia. If a workable negotiation is not acceptable and becomes far from the reality then we will have no choice other than fighting it to the end.

07/23/07 @ 02:51
Comment from: omo [Visitor]
omo

What would the Chinese factor do in this unfolding situation in the horn of Africa? The Chinese government has invested heavily in Ethiopia and now India, as a regional power, is doing the same. Will they pack up and leave Ethiopia or face the intensified neocolonial drive in the horn of Africa by the West?
What will be the nature of the new cold war? Is it going to be the China and India on one side and the aging West on the other?
Where are they going to fight it out? Of course in the third world, especially the horn of Africa, the most destitute region even by African standard.
Is the lunatic in Asmara going to play an important role despite his anti-American rhetoric? Are we facing an Arabo-West conspiracy against Ethiopia because MZ is aligning himself with the rising powers of the region? Does the west feel used and damped by MZ, and want to punish the spoiled child of the horn?
Can America afford to lose the only friend in the horn for the sake of petrodollars? Can they count on any body else except Israel and Ethiopia in this subcontinent? Every thing is possible, but let’s hope they are not that naïve.
Are the war mongers in the white house ready to fight on two fronts? A religious war where they are in a big mess, not knowing how to disentangle, and a new cold war with the most populous nations of the world?
Whose policy will pass? That of the morons with their brainless president in the white house or that of the more mature and responsible American politicians in Washington? Time will show.
Famine, dictatorship, ethnic politics, weak and dispersed Ethiopian diaspora, ineffective and alienated opposition, Lfs, the hated and despised ruler, new cold war are some of the curses bestowed on our nation. When are we going to get rid of all these ailments?
What can we Ethiopians do to avert this new danger in the horizon? The answer is national unity and solidarity to face the arrogant dictator and the enemies of Ethiopia, find a solution to the Eritrean destabilizing factor, implement democracy and the rule of law in Ethiopia, bury for ever ethnic politics, handle strategically our internal and foreign policies having as a standard our national interest and not ethnic or personal interest, etc.
The enemies of Ethiopia are many. Nevertheless, we are much more strong and invincible if we cast away our weak points and unit to face our enemies.

07/23/07 @ 04:49
Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]
Mesfin

Thank you for this well articulated text
and truth.
West try to feed us thier acidic agenda
by the name of democracy.
But for all Ethiopians ,sovereignity of
Ethiopia the first thing.If west goes further
such distructive way ,It is all Ethiopian
responsiblity to repeat the some history
on the west and anti-Ethiopian forces.
so far they try to destroy aur future
perspective,We will destroy their hidden
agenda wherever in Africa.
God bless Ethiopia,.

07/23/07 @ 05:28
Comment from: (shotolay) Mekonen [Visitor]
(shotolay) Mekonen

“THERE IS NO GOD THERE IS ONLY ETHIOPIA”

people of ethiopia weak up and safe ogaden
shabya supported by kinijit leaders they tray to distroy our land woyane is number one enemy but we don,t havem choice this time we have support woyane troops ogaden region becous all about ethiopia.

LONG LIVE ONE ETHIOPIA.

07/23/07 @ 05:38
Comment from: shiferaw [Visitor]
shiferaw

it is a satisfactory article kiros.we ethiopians we need to wake up as soon as we can.as we all we know that westerns they never been a partner of ethiopia.

07/23/07 @ 05:40
Comment from: I care [Visitor]
I care

I bet you Meles has cash in his pocket from his buddy Chines Govenment and Ethiopia.
Here we go another leader will rob Ethiopia and run.

Take all he has and drop him off in Eritria to leave with his borther.

07/23/07 @ 06:24
Comment from: bashka [Visitor]
bashka

here we go againa amhara extremisme

the writer wrote: European Americans while making their empire by exterminating Native Americans. None. In fact, all nations around the world have such bloody beginning to secure their sovereignty

i say: u should be imprisoned like ur amhara cud leaders article 29 preaches freedom democracy and u want to kill the nativs in ogaden lol man u so sick and perhaps u need a mental care u psyco ogaden is ogaden and will allways be we are the only ones to choose our future not u or ur derg savage brutal leaders

07/23/07 @ 06:35
Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]
Mesfin

Mekonen,

Belive me we have aur almighty God
enmy of Ethiopia dusty.West shocked,because
Ethiopia start to solve its problems
by it self.This a time all Ethiopian
to defendaur country . Let us leave
aside aur political diffrences.OLF,CUD,
WOYANE alle are aur brothers (thiopians)
let us solve any diffrence by aurselves.
We have no much Money and weapon like west
but we are brilliant people,we have no
problem to understand wests evil strategy.
It very silly mistake,attempting Ethiopia
to colonize by the aid or weapon in 21th.century.

07/23/07 @ 06:35
Comment from: maryam [Visitor]
maryam

ONLF no chance we can not support a
terorist grup.

ETHIOPIA TEKEDEM

07/23/07 @ 06:41
Comment from: WENDESEN [Visitor]
WENDESEN

MELES you are a gret man in world
god bless you

I LOVE ETHIOPIA

07/23/07 @ 06:46
Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
Almaz

Which country is the biggest terrerist in the world? USA

who brought massacre into Ethiopia? USA

Who organized EPLF and still trying to make Ethiopia a landlocked country? USA

Who violated security councill’s previous decision about Ethiopia’s rights? USA among the others

Who prepared the algers document while falsly promising the government access to the see? USA

Who defended Ethiopias’ cause in the international tribunal? USA

Who organized opposition parties which are tying to destroy thier own country like the kurdish people? USA

Where are the offices of separatist and their support coming? USA government

Who has the reputation for mass killing and dissentigration of society like the kurdish people?
USA

Which country has the reputation of arming dictators even to massacer people like the kurdish people?
USA

If you expect something that is good from USA, you have lost the root cause of our problem over the past three decades, now and in the future.

Cheers


07/23/07 @ 06:47
Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
Yeha

Mr.Kirkos your article has positive attitude as well as negative views,as how to the Ogaden region will be in the future.
Despite the argument,those slef declared and shabia backed ONLF,OLF must have rooted no matter waht.If not then the nation would have a huge problem to the future. One thing the article mentoined that these people are abusing their right as far as article 29 goes.

07/23/07 @ 07:42
Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]
Mesfin

hi Yeha,
please dont compare ONLF and OLF,
OLF is despite they stand together with
Ethiopia-enemies,but they are Ethiopians
.That is why they have no civil ethiopians
blood on their hand.
ONLF is nothing to do Ethiopia and Ethiopians
,they are the collection of Somalia islamic court
and Shabiya.by the help of EU.

07/23/07 @ 08:00
Comment from: habeshaw [Visitor]
habeshaw

ethiopia will be ethiopia no matter what.
we don’t need outside help to protect our country. we don’t need to ask for eu or usa to help us talk to OLF AND ONLF. SEPARATISTS
SHOULD BE DEALT WITH WITH IN SHORT TIME
AND SWIFTLY. LET US NOT REPEAT THE PAST HISTORY
OF EPLF AND TPLF.
GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA.

07/23/07 @ 08:22
Comment from: Samuel Gebru [Member]  
Samuel Gebru

1/ Funny mistake: it is not Article 29, rather Article 39 that gives ethnic groups the right to leave from Ethiopia.

2/ Your article is somewhat interesting and thankfully isn’t another diaspora piece of trash, I actually liked it.

07/23/07 @ 08:25
Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
TEDDY

Who is to blame for such unnecessary crisis
Certainly Zenawi and TPLF thugs who willingly
create this chaotic situations by their
so called Federal Constitution based on
ethnical hates and their mercenary mission
into Somalia which has worsen the Ogaden
crisis .
LONG LIVE THE TRUE ETHIOPIANS !!!

07/23/07 @ 08:35
Comment from: Fed up [Visitor]
Fed up

I agree a lot with the writer, i also like to point out we Ethiopians who live abroud hove citizinal duties to lobby,campaign and pressure the West to keep Ethiopian integrity intact,right now we are being tested by out side forces to destabilze and divide the country in to several pieces of land.

I urge every one to put the political agenda a side for a moment and focus on imidiate task on hand,i also like to point out UNITY not finger pointing is what we need.

We need to look at Israel,They have survived b/c they are united,they do have their diffrences when it comes to their country they are one and only.

United We Stand,Divided We Fall!

07/23/07 @ 08:47
Comment from: jama geele [Visitor]
jama geele

as i understood onlf is right
no matter how you dislike this movement
but today no one can stop onlf

ethiopia is worrest people ever we saw
becouse of killing toturing the ogadenian
people i dont now who is the real
ethiopian

look if you ethiopian and concern
what is going on in ogaden rigen
why dont you speakup what the maleze
sanawi doing to uor people
blockinkg the food killing
the enocent mother and chlideren

in the long histore we were fightig
ethiopia toget our rights inclouding
the bassic life but how came wegana
be same rethiopian while you
people are geting edcution
health roads
and our people are 0%of life

therefore our disesion is
to get our freedom
our goverment dont worry
this is the time we were waiting
fore many years

god bless ogadenia
onlf vive vive onlf

07/23/07 @ 08:50
Comment from: Ogadenian [Visitor]
Ogadenian

Stupid comment by a stupid writer. How dare u accuse those who are fighting for their rights to be terrorist? Americans and west might be many thing but stupid isn’t one of them. They know ONLF have been fighting for the right of Somali region for as long as one can remember. Ogaden was never part of EThiopia, we have nothing in common with you and certainly just colony of highlanders.
It is true America looks at its interest. Therefore what has EThiopia got to offer? nothing. No oil in highlands and no costal area. On the other hand we have djibouti goverment which is putting considerable pressure on america and reminding them that djiboutian support somalis both in somalia and Ogaden. Even Abdullahi Yussuf who chill with meles still dream of a day ogaden is either independent or part of somalia.

Strategically somalia is more important to america than ethiopia could ever be. WE are muslim and they need muslim support. We are close to the arab countries and we have got the cost. In addition to this we have considerable oil potential.
For a very long time i have said if oil was to be found in Ogaden, independence will follow soon and looks like our freedom is almost near. So instead of crying and beggin Ogadenian and claim it to be your country…lets vote and see which way we go. Truth be said, never seen a single somali resident of somali region callin themselves ethiopian. To us Addis is as far as Cape town is.

07/23/07 @ 09:15
Comment from: guttu [Visitor]
guttu

The article it self is story with out evidence. far from to things could happen.darfur issue and ogaden
incomprable poleticaly,and goegraph
icaly.darfur been intervened by 75%
of world body including africans.
In regard of poletical tentions in
ethiopia some of you gave posetive approach while upper hand comments
are wiping out onlf and olf by force.HERE IS MY VIEW. ETHIOPIA AND ETHIOPIANISM IS AWILL OR ACHOICE TO BE .ETHIOPIA BEEN MENDED AND KEPT
TOGETHER FOR THE LAST 120-130 YEARS BY GUN POINT NOT BY THE WILL OF RIGHT DESERVING CITIZENS .IF ETHIOPIA WILL KEEP FOLLOWING THE SAME TRAIL, PEACE AND UNITY IS FAR AS
DISTANCE BETEWEEN EARTH AND SUN.

07/23/07 @ 09:40
Comment from: Ogadenian [Visitor]
Ogadenian

Bye bye Colonialist highlanders that will be the word uttered by our leaders soon. We are not receiving support frm somalia believe me on that. Yes they provide us with moral support but they are not capable of providing us with military support not yet anyway. Can u imagine if somalia was as strong as it sued to be? Ogaden would have been independent long time ago especially since there aren’t any russian and cuban troops to come for your rescue.

Woyane are talking because they are loosin the war. We have known this all along ethiopia is a poor country and once bogged down they are as good as finished.

07/23/07 @ 10:03
Comment from: Tasa [Visitor]  
Tasa

this is the begening of the end of Males, he do not understand the American policy, ethiopia is now on the edge and can no longer be united since the signs of democracy has been eridcated from the ethiopia.

those of you whose blieves that power should be for EPRDF and AHMARA, and claim ethiopia should be united are dreaming if you think ethiopia is for ethiopian you should accept equal oppotunity and diversity for all ethiopians and you should alow the to exercise their polical writs, majority Oromos,Somalis and other minorities are forbiden to come to power so how do you cliam democracy in ethiopia and United ethiopia.

first correct your planed mistakes and seek greater ethiopia.

And i blieve OLF, ONLF, and other parts should continue and wage war against dectator regime in Addis.

07/23/07 @ 10:05
Comment from: VIVA O.N.L.F [Visitor]  
VIVA  O.N.L.F

GLAD 2 C HIGHLANDERS crying over O N L F
we were 4 along time isolated and denied of our right. how can you complain today to the western while while highlanders now wtat they did to the local ogadenian{ raping,killing,
arresting………}
to little to late……………….
raabi

07/23/07 @ 10:29
Comment from: Wikiyanos [Visitor]
Wikiyanos

Hi Eth 1888 we know you are shaebiya
the looser Bashka wash your toung and
go to learn Ogadenian you are not
Ogadenian you are somalian and your
dream will remain as a dream forever
no one will touch our ETHIOPIA.

07/23/07 @ 10:39
Comment from: zemen [Visitor]
zemen

I agree with the commenters point about the ogaden and minidarfur comparison and the west intention. West shows us thousand times that they does not care about the rest of the world. We all know what their interest is. But that is not our challenge. our biggest challenge is among ourselves. We are problems to ourselves. We do not have a single common line where every indvidual agrees or respect. The party in power and the opponents on the other side are completely different. They donot have a common standard that every party or individual must obey. Look what was/is happening in our history. So to make things short , Now AGAIN WE NEED SHIMAGILLE to bring us to common understanding so that everybody must obey and respect those values. By doing so we can save ourselves and our country. God bless all of us!

07/23/07 @ 10:39
Comment from: Abdi [Visitor]
Abdi

This article is the most stupid one i have ever read. This man is advocating foR GENOCIDE in the Ogaden. Whether you like it ot not Ogaden is going. The actions by ur Abssynian army shows how desperate you have became in compatting the ONLF which has the full support of the people. If referendum were held today 100% of the people would vote for independence. the sooner you let the OGaden go the better for Ethiopia. cos they are not gona give up till total independecy

07/23/07 @ 10:41
Comment from: ogadenia and oromia [Visitor]  
ogadenia and oromia

i am so surprised the way tigres are talking today,they don’t seem that they are the ones….
1,who massacred the people in addis 2005
2,who massacred the honourable member of parliaments of oromia in 1993
3,the ones who left stranded the injured ogadenian youth in jigjiga during ETHIO-ERITREA war with out medication……
4,who make the ogadenian and oromo the second class citizen….
BYE BYE TIGRIGNAAAAAAAAAAA
TAKE YOUR KAMAILAKHA TO MAKALLE

07/23/07 @ 10:48
Comment from: peace ethiopia [Visitor]
peace ethiopia

read this from our author

Meles should have read books about how much Human Rights was actually respected by the early European Americans while making their empire by exterminating Native Americans.

lol besically his suggesting that ethiopia (amhara) should wipe out the somali population in the ogaden. no wonder ur called nazis by others and hated.

07/23/07 @ 10:54
Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]
Somali realist

Fed Up

You told me not to write on Nezret.com because it is an Ethiopian blog and i am Somali. You suggested i should find my own blog among my own people.

Well, my parents are from Jigjiga. How logic is it to you to view us as Somali and not as Ethiopian yet claim Ogaden as part of Ethiopia? Does it make sense to you?

Every Ethiopian knows that Somali people do not want to be part of Ethiopia and they are not Ethiopians but Somalis. No one can force them to become Ethiopians. Somalis in Ethiopia have the right to fight for their rights.

07/23/07 @ 11:01
Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]
Eshetu Daba

It is a good historical assessment of the regional economic and military power game in the world. There is no out cry when Eritrea and Ethiopia killed one another where upto 300,00o thousand people died and untold numbered became disabled. Those who lost two limbs who gets help when they leave home a friend or a good samaritan helps them to unzip and pulls out their penis to urinate.
When the Chinese and Ethiopians were massacared the major news papers in the west told us how greedy they Chinese are to exploit Africa, that means Monopoly power which is more profitable is at stake. These Major oil corporation new before the Chinese where the oil deposits are but they did not want unover supply of oil that takes out of profit. They never thought the Chinese and other Asian countries are capable to even try it. When they found in Sudan, and other African nations. The development of Africa the debt forgiveness, the eradication of Malaria and HIV started to get traction. They know the weaknesses of Africans we are more ethnocentered than Afro centered and the means used was the devastating wars in Liberia, Siera Leone, Ivory c

07/23/07 @ 11:18
Comment from: minabat [Visitor]
minabat

Please SHAbiya ( ONLF) don’t interefer
in aur Ethiopian discussion.We don’t spend
much time to discuss abaout Shabiya.If
it necessary only one kilel Ethiopia
Police punish you.Dont call the name of proud
Ethiopian Ogaden people.You are al-qaida
in Asmaera.

07/23/07 @ 11:31
Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]
Eshetu Daba

It is a good historical assessment of the regional economic and military power game in the world. There is no out cry when Eritrea and Ethiopia killed one another where up to 300,00o thousand people died and untold numbered became disabled. Those who lost two limbs who gets help when they leave home a friend or a good Samaritan helps them to unzip and pulls out their penis to urinate.
When the Chinese and Ethiopians were massacred the major news papers in the west told us how greedy they Chinese are to exploit Africa, that means Monopoly power which is more profitable is at stake. These Major oil corporation new before the Chinese where the oil deposits are but they did not want over supply of oil that takes out of profit. They never thought the Chinese and other Asian countries are capable to even try it. When they found in Sudan, and other African nations. The development of Africa the debt forgiveness, the eradication of Malaria and HIV started to get traction. They know the weaknesses of Africans we are more ethnocentric than Afro centered and the means used was the devastating wars in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Congo and Darfur.
Do you think that the Washington Post, The New York Times, The Economist, the BBC and the Wall Street Journal are writing for the human rights of the CUD leaders, or the 193 who lost their lives, please. A strong Ethiopia, and a strong Somalia was never in the Plan. Other wise there is no reason why the Ogaden is given to Ethiopia. The war of liberation that was left to rage on between Ethiopians and Eritreans is a strong Ethiopia with a large population is also not to put its resources into development activities and to become big and assertive giving contracts to every nation it likes.
There is Oil not only in Ethiopia but also in Somalia, on land and all around the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean. Now the competition is in full speed, oil is found in Ghana, it is a place that has been looked at inch by inch for what it is worth, but only the competition from the east, and shortage in the oil production that necessitated it. Now there is found in Chad, Central African Republic, Angola, Darfur etc and all these places are are on deliberately set fires. Where do you think news comes and war rages the most in Oil endowed regions. Oil is found in vietnamese water, why are Iran and Venzuel in the news for the most part, they becae to free and insubordinate, other wise they like to sell their oil as much as the buyer it is a question of control. The lesson learned is it is better to weaken an area before it becomes free and rich.
Africa is divided and week, we respect and give a cup of water to a tourist from a foreign land than a brother next door dying of thirst. We envy each other, compete in our war skills, when every thing is determined by the supply of guns. We will never accept democracy the only government that will keep us in peace is a government of Mega corporation, that is not at least neither African nor a human being. Just like a country you have not heard much but is one of Africas richest countries in oil and other essential resources. One man is managing it for ever in peace and no strife and no news coming out good or bad. People like Michael Jackson in his glorious days had a live concert. He would not show up in Tanzania or Ethiopia. There are no people with more in common like the Somali people but are without government for over 16 years now. What is the difference between Ethiopians and Eritreans, for that matter Sudanese, Kenyans and Somalis. Non other than our ignorance and the divide and rule of the colonial powers who tore up Africa in to several peaces randomly with a shredding machine.

07/23/07 @ 12:07
Comment from: ogaden [Visitor]
ogaden

we oromo and ogadenian the second class
citizen in the empire of ethiopia.
thanks………….for massacreds.

07/23/07 @ 13:10
Comment from: gadem hussun [Visitor]
gadem hussun

The only remedie is to understood all these games of the WEST. I don’t understand why our so called leaders like MZ don’t understand the power of Ethiopian people. Who cares about Chinese, USA but we should care adn being united in the Ethiopia. The only solution to avoid interference of western nation and Estern powerful nations like China and India is by having united Ethiopia with all its people respected, full democray. There is no need to have bill passing issues in USA if Meles is respecting the rule of law. It looks like both Chinese and USA are not stading for Ethiopian people, I understand that. But I can not understand why MZ is not with his own people if both West or EAST are n ot with him. It is really confusing. But we have plenty of past examples to find solutions from. Look we have been thought that Italy invaded Ethiopia for its own reason. It is really shame for Ethiopian not to know the real reason. I recetnly read articels about the real reason why Italy invaded Ethiopia more than a centry ago is block Ethiopia-Japan joint venture developement projects between the two countries. Italy has allied with US to invade Ethiopia. And they successed. That is why Ethiopia is what it is today. I am not surprised if our leaders are from USA or China. I am realy surprised how stupid the so called Ethiopian leaders are, how all Ethiopians are ignorant of the real games played by the west. The only thinkg I am seeing from Ethiopian dispora is being naive when we come to USA. We really think that USA is to democracy while it is to the oil. Other country’ people think well to make their future, we can also think like they think, at least to prevent what has happended in the past to our country. I am really conrused! WE ethiopians should really demonstate unity and think well about waht we doint. Meles Zenawi, if you think you are smart enough, work for your people, Ethiopian people, not for Chinese or Eriterian people. Please, understand the game of WEST and EAST. The only way to win the game is to be with Ethiopian people by playing a unifying figure for all people. The Ethiopain people has the right to decide on its resources. We the diaspora wanted is to respect rule of law and democracy. If we have that at home, how can we ask USA infererence. By doing so, you can save Ethiopia and its unity as a country.

07/23/07 @ 13:33
Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]
Gehon

We know the drill, and the back door entrance foreign policy of the USA, and the possibilities of their gutless covert and overt actions that, they can take. It is up to them, to follow the an parallel historical facts of Ethiopia, and go from there, to decided for them selves.

07/23/07 @ 13:38
Comment from: Fed up [Visitor]
Fed up

We need not to blame the west,But take a good look at ourselves,as long as we do that honestly,we shall find the answers we are seeking with in us.

First of stop crying about Meles Zenawi,accept him as the leader and move on to takle other issues we have like National security,Economy,Education and so on.

Next of if you have a problem with curent Adminstration,You all can start the process of change in a peace full manner.

We are our own Enemey,No one else is to Blame.

07/23/07 @ 14:44
Comment from: ogaden [Visitor]
ogaden

This chap should be nicknamed Article 29!!!!!!!

What a big time loser!!!!!!!

The opposite of whatever he wrote including Article 29 (which is Article 39) is right. His write up needs revision and not reading.

07/23/07 @ 15:51
Comment from: Fed up [Visitor]
Fed up

Almaz,

Do you live in USA? If that we will help to get One way ticket out of United States.

Stop Insulting the United States with these crazy theory,you are delusional.

Note,
This message is from the Right wing Republican

07/23/07 @ 15:55
Comment from: Berta [Visitor]
Berta

One thing that that can save us form the little problem to the big problems we forsee is to stand up for freedom and democracy.

07/23/07 @ 16:05
Comment from: Berta [Visitor]
Berta

The harsher a dictator the easier to beused by Westerns.

07/23/07 @ 16:07
Comment from: Tolosa [Visitor]
Tolosa

As an oromo ethiopian, I apreciate the article. the article really provide us the importance of solving our problems on our own. America is just about money. Lets forget the americans once for all and let us work together to change our people life. lets bombard with letters the NY times for their stopid article, and let’s lobby to our government who carry the barden of comfroting ONLF. our enternal problems will be solved when new generation entered to politics. And lets stop coopration with the so called congress people to pass a bill that diminize our country

07/23/07 @ 16:16
Comment from: Ogadenian [Visitor]
Ogadenian

Tolosa your not a tue oromo. True ormo would never claim woyane goverment to be theirs consider they treat u just as bad as somali if not worse. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Talking about lobbing for a goverment that refuse u all the right is like jews lobbying for hitlers goverment.

Ogaden/ Somali region is better off outside EThiopia and we all know that. After all why insist on keeping people who don’t want anything to do with you????

07/23/07 @ 19:34
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

ogadenian and jama geele, you repeated the same old broken ONLF CD. ONLF is not Ethiopian, it was created by siad barre while he was an american ally in the 1980s. “ogadenian", for your information the whole of somalia used to be Ethiopias province before 1960. somalia is created in 1960 by england. There was nothing called somalia before 1960, somalia since its creation has been nothing but a western and arab league toy. The italians used somalis as a canon fodder during their invasion of Ethiopia and somalis are still being used by the west and arab league for the same purpose. “ogadenian", we all know you have an arabized mentality and that you suffer from identity crises, the west supports bandits like ONLF to promote its own interests, at the end of the day, you will be on your own. You better read and learn about the true nature of the west and many of its puppets in the arab world.

07/23/07 @ 21:01
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

ogadenian, you must be out of your mind, in the 1970s the Soviet Union and Cuba went to somalia, then they realized how important Ethiopia is, that is why they switched sides in 1978 to Ethiopia. Ethiopia has a great history and influence in Africa which is something somalia will never ever achieve. All that Green, Yellow and Red African flag colors are taken from Ethiopia upon their indepence from the european devil in the 1960s. Across the atlantic ocean the Jamaicans too proudly wave the Ethiopian flag. Ethiopia is a sign of FREEDOM and HOPE for Africa, that is one of the reason why African leaders chose Addis Abeba to be the seat of OAU/AU African Union. The United States of America is also recently building its second embassy in Ethiopia, the US has double embassies in other 4 countries only. What does that tell ya????? Ethiopia is written many many times in the Bible and the Quran, somalia is no where to be found.

07/23/07 @ 21:08
Comment from: waka ayal [Visitor]
waka ayal

yes Kirkos, America may be behaind the bar for the problems you are forwarding. you know it is not uncommon for america to play such drama. They do evrything for the sake of their national interest and they said it publicly.
however we have to understand something. how long we have to expect democracy as a hand out from the outside while we the children of mother ethiopia fail to seat around the table and solve our own problems
what do you think brothers

07/23/07 @ 21:16
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

somali realist, you have no connection with eastern Ethiopia, you are a somali from Mogadishu just like shek/colonel hassan aweys. It is just a matter of time, Ethiopia will get back the whole of somalia which was Ethiopian province before 1960 when england broke it away.

07/23/07 @ 21:22
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

Eshetu Daba, let alone “ogaden", the whole somalia was Ethiopian province before the arrival of england. somalia were created in 1960 by england, like many states in Africa."ogaden” is an Ethiopian land, it is not anybodies “gift", do not be sucked by western propaganda.

07/23/07 @ 21:36
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

ogaden, you are a shabiya/EPLF, all you can learn from shabiya is inferiority complex, I am oromo and I know I am Ethiopian, I was given education and work opportunity like every Ethiopian citizen.

07/23/07 @ 21:38
Comment from: temesgen [Member]  
temesgen

ogadenian, you are poisoned by separatis ideology, separation from Ethiopia will bring you SLAVERY. Take a good look at “eritreans” who were misled by EPLF in the 1980s, now they can not even get exit visa, they have been made prisoners in their own land, about 600 people flee via sudan and the mediteranian sea to Europe. Anti Ethiopia “liberation fronts” like the EPLF,ONLF are working for enemy foreign governments, they do not care one bit for our people.

07/23/07 @ 21:48
Comment from: zinabu [Visitor]
zinabu

Hi (shotalay)mekonen.my friend iwould like to say that your english is perfect.i realy wonder what kind of person you are?first of all who are you to say tha there is no god.please take alook at your surrounding landscapes the solar system and wonder how they are created and how they are created.my friend i urge you to bow down before almighty god for repentance and ask god forgiveness.unless you gonna be sent to never ceasing fire and burned down to earth for ever.you have time to be pardoned.the other thing i would like to advice you is that please go to school and do your best to improve your english.
GOD bless you

07/23/07 @ 23:30
Comment from: tizita [Visitor]
tizita

to Eth1888
Who the hell are you? Hey don’t you know how to write? I think you must be someone with sheephead on him. “ye ethiopia awedadek” you stupid I was very excited that you know what awedadek means. Listen, Just grab your pencil and paper go to learn history and about Ethiopian different diversed ethinic people. They always one and they will be one for ever. Forget the current ruling party or the way how things run badily in that beautiful, rich in history,and the thrteen month sunshine country,no country or group can harm her or let her down as long as her brave people alive. Ethiopia is a great country, great diversified people,great history,wonderful hospitality,the land of the brave of braves,and the respected and gorgious culture of all times can’t be sub divided into clatters the way Ogadanians think by the pressure they have from anti Ethiopians. Ethiopian people never go apart The way you and your garbbage can headed friends think.As I said above, Ethiopians live together for ever;even the one went and try to go apart will beg and pay sacrify to be together with Ethiopians. Mr Nuckle head Eth1888, you better harry and go school before it gets too late.

07/23/07 @ 23:43
Comment from: meriet [Visitor]
meriet

nazret ;the only reason that i come to you is because you have a blogger like kirko!!
i’m not crazy about the government or the opposition, i have some say about both.when i read blogs like kirkos, i thought about it and i don’t have to:i have fair and smart ethiopian brothers and sisters.
but for sure there won’t be a party at the expence of ethiopia or ethiopians at all

07/24/07 @ 00:07
Comment from: Theodros M. [Visitor]
Theodros M.

Ahmed and Tolosa,
Thank you brothers. You are both good ethiopians and right about ONLF. They are being used by Eritrea and will not survive without the Eritrean support. As Ethiopians however, we need to work our problems by talking like the old ways. Sit around a table and talk things out admit past mistakes and correct it for the future. However, ONLF seperatists want the gun and learn from the Eritrean so calle straggle for I do not know to what end.

Take it easy brothers.

07/24/07 @ 02:20
Comment from: kabridahar [Visitor]
kabridahar

“Ahmed” I know you are Naftegnya who is trying to fool people. please I know you are “sharmuta ligi from Amara". Oromoes are not are not well treated in ethiopia. the abbisiniyana made them slaves in their own country. I know that there is no single oromo who does not know what the oromo people was and is still subjected to. I do not need to explain so much about it. you mention the bloody name ethiopia is mentioned in bible and quran. it is also mentioned in the dictionaries. the word starvation is explained by ethiopia. having history of starvation, backwardness, undevelopment, dictotorship, raw meat eaters is not something to be proud off. please face the truth the time for amara dominance is finished. oromoes, somalis and other people of the horn will fight you. do not talk fot the oromoes- talk to your amara blood suckers-dhanqoroej. you use oromoes for border wars only, not to participate in the ruling of the country. but today they are on the brink of geting back the freedomwhich you denied them for så many years. bleieve me we ogadenians and oromoes will fight the bbisiniayns as lon as it necessary- as the brave people of ereteria did. go to eterteria and try to take it again. you boodies are used by the ereterian farmers as fertilizers..
by ass hole. dont take that name again. probably yuor name is"dunja ras”

07/24/07 @ 07:49
Comment from: kabridahar [Visitor]
kabridahar

“Ahmed” I know you are Naftegnya who is trying to fool people. please I know you are “sharmuta ligi from Amara". Oromoes are not are not well treated in ethiopia. the abbisiniyana made them slaves in their own country. I know that there is no single oromo who does not know what the oromo people was and is still subjected to. I do not need to explain so much about it. you mention the bloody name ethiopia is mentioned in bible and quran. it is also mentioned in the dictionaries. the word starvation is explained by ethiopia. having history of starvation, backwardness, undevelopment, dictotorship, raw meat eaters is not something to be proud off. please face the truth the time for amara dominance is finished. oromoes, somalis and other people of the horn will fight you. do not talk fot the oromoes- talk to your amara blood suckers-dhanqoroej. you use oromoes for border wars only, not to participate in the ruling of the country. but today they are on the brink of geting back the freedomwhich you denied them for så many years. bleieve me we ogadenians and oromoes will fight the bbisiniayns as lon as it necessary- as the brave people of ereteria did. go to eterteria and try to take it again. you boodies are used by the ereterian farmers as fertilizers..
by ass hole. dont take that name again. probably yuor name is"dunja ras”

07/24/07 @ 07:50
Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]
Somali realist

Ahmad

Believe it or not, Somalia is, was and will remain part of the world that the Greeks and Romams called Ethiopia.

But Somalia is not part of the Abyssinian Ethiopia the Europeans created to defeat Somalia and Islam.

For your information, the geopolitics in the Horn is changed for good thanks to the TPLF invasion of Somalia.

Somali, Oromo, Afar, Sidama and Eritrea will play the Abyssinian game. The MOTO is no more Abyssinia domination in the Horn.

I promise, it is matter of time, you will hear a countries called Oromia, Afaria, Sidamia, Amharia and Tigrea, and Ogaden will join Somalia. The Ethiopia that the Europeans created in late 19th century will rightly dissolve into these original nations with their own states.

No more colonial bull shit in Horn of Africa and in that matter in the rest of the world. The second liberation movements are starting know to begin their missions as i speak know. Every nation in the Horn will, by any means necessary, get its freedom and independence to control its destiny.

07/24/07 @ 09:42
Comment from: Wikiyanos [Visitor]
Wikiyanos

Kabridahar somalian very narrow brain
you have no idea what you are talking
about so you need to wash your toung
with a bleach and go to learn

07/24/07 @ 10:16
Comment from: ogaden [Visitor]
ogaden

I would like to say TPLF is key ally of
U.S but what is wrong you-TPLF-IT is more
samefull to distrust one’s freinds than to to be deceived by them.
tolosa first,allow yourself freedom,then your heroes friends ONLF,one gives nothing so freely than advice,We Ogaden people all have enough strength to bear other people’s troubles.Jeffrey is only NYT reporter is on his duty,remember Truth is never pure,and rarely simple,listen the people nothing prevents us from being free andendependance so much as the desire to appear so.YOU-abyinia came on a back donkeys and go on donkeys.you and your selfish go to you home

07/24/07 @ 16:58
Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
Almaz

YOU ALL FULISH PEOPLE!

Why do you quile on a stupid issue?

We all are Ethiopians (somalia, sudanes, the current Ethiopians) come from same family. Cann’t you recognize even from your face eventhough this is not relevant to the issue!

Sham

07/24/07 @ 17:50
Comment from: me [Visitor]
me

i see some people are writing about “retaking” and “recliaming” Eritrea.

you are crazy, Eritrea is a soverign state and should not be invaded. Eritrea was never apart of Ethiopia until it was forced by US and Haile selassie, and when we were independent after we won the war for independence it should have signalled to you that we did not and do not ever want to be part of your ethnic minded, divided, puppet state ever again.

07/24/07 @ 22:24
Comment from: Woytata [Visitor]
Woytata

Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]
Ahmad

Believe it or not, Somalia is, was and will remain part of the world that the Greeks and Romams called Ethiopia.

But Somalia is not part of the Abyssinian Ethiopia the Europeans created to defeat Somalia and Islam.

For your information, the geopolitics in the Horn is changed for good thanks to the TPLF invasion of Somalia.

Somali, Oromo, Afar, Sidama and Eritrea will play the Abyssinian game. The MOTO is no more Abyssinia domination in the Horn.

I promise, it is matter of time, you will hear a countries called Oromia, Afaria, Sidamia, Amharia and Tigrea, and Ogaden will join Somalia. The Ethiopia that the Europeans created in late 19th century will rightly dissolve into these original nations with their own states.

No more colonial bull shit in Horn of Africa and in that matter in the rest of the world. The second liberation movements are starting know to begin their missions as i speak know. Every nation in the Horn will, by any means necessary, get its freedom and independence to control its destiny.

Wow, Dat is what I was telling you folks. I said “That CUD or Amhara ship is sailing by old crew and its only the young people realize its sinking. I wonder how till everything capsizes”

07/26/07 @ 01:17
Comment from: bashka [Visitor]
bashka

why do we wate our time trying so hard to convince habesha people that we are not ethiopians fight them where eve they are even in theyr states period

07/27/07 @ 09:46

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