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Ethiopia - nazret readers weigh in on Seye Abraha and Negasso Gidada

11/28/09

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Ethiopia - nazret readers weigh in on Seye Abraha and Negasso Gidada

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Ethiopia - nazret readers weigh in on Seye Abraha and Negasso Gidada

There was much discussion about the recent development about the announcement of Negaso Gidada, Ethiopia's former president, and Seye Abrah. joining the opposition party UDJ. More than 150 comments were posted on nazret.com where many were skeptical. Below are some of the selected comments from our readers.

elcad writes

"When Negasso Gidada aka (Gedada) left the TPLF junta the excuse he gave was, “I didn’t know EPRDF/TPLF has socialist agenda”. This was after six years of being their puppet /president. With out even mentioning many areas of his short comings or to the extent crimes, this statement by itself speaks volume about this man’s incredible lack of character. When he announced his ignorance about the core ideology of Woyane’s after six years of close acquaintance, he either had to be immensely stupid and oblivious or he was a chronic deceiver had no shame for lying out of the blue. Both are indicatives about what his supporters’ have to expect from his newest gig as a member of UDJ.

Siye Abraha is simply a tribal gangster and perfect swindler who have no reservation to make his noxious move as long as it fits his own self centered ploy. Let’s see, he was the perfect Mr. Woyane through out his glorious days as a master mind for Ethiopia’s demise for losing its see access to become land locked nation with the 2nd largest population in Africa imposed on her a 6 billion dollar annual economic advantage due to the absence of its own port (Assab). During his awesome epoch as a Woyane chief, a reporter from Reuter questioned him about Ethiopia’s disadvantage for losing its port, and the colorful hoodlum responded by saying “Ethiopia was poor when it has port and Ethiopia is poor with out port. So what?” as the good Journalist from CBS (Mike Wallace) said “this is his word not mine”.

These are the two opportunists that have been called in this forum as the future political power houses of Ethiopia and hailed as saints for becoming potential contaminators of the already crippled UDJ. After toppling the coup orchestrators against his government in 2002, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela answered to a reporter who asked him if he will appoint one of his nemesis’s to a cabinet post, Chavez said a firm “no” by emphasizing “short memory is the biggest mistake in politics”. Some of the bloggers who steadfastly supports this calculated move by these two evil trailblazers are nothing but suffering from “short memory” syndrome. When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves. These include the way we think and the way we see our political leaders. I would adamantly prefer the Woyane’s to stay on power rather than facing another political disappointment. These two people have not changed or will never change. They simply made political move based on their self interest. Expecting any change out of these two is just naïve. As the old saying goes “it is hard to teach new tricks to the older dog”. Our country is bleeding partly because of the malfunction created by these two people and will be blooding for generations to come. Now, if we are trying to convince our selves the same havocs will be the solutions, I say “it is delusion at its best”.

Free writes

"Am Lovin' This, Excellent News! Both Siye and Negasso, Welcome to UDJ, The Second Child of Ethiopia's Next Prime Minister Woizerit Birtukan Mideksa!!! Also, congratulations to those who made this happen!

Laughing at Hailu Shawul's ye Teletafi badge, it is as colourful as the ugly dedebit flag. "

Challenger writes

Negasso and Siye are criminals who killed 42 of my friends in one day in AAU. They belong in Huge to stand on trial for killing Amharas in Bedeno and Areba gugu, not use me again to hap on their high horses.

I can't fathom some people are supporting this killers who chased us out of the country to use my party, Birtukan's party, to return to power. What do we gain from them? What is that special gift these killers bring with them that other Ethiopians can't bring to UDJ? How come UDJ chases people like Prof. Mesfin but invites General Siye to join it? Whose idea is this anyway? How come the same players/actors are allowed to continue their game with a different costume?

Siye made Ethiopia landlocked. Siye was the hardliner in TPLF who objected elections and Democracy in 1991. Siye was the ultra-Tigray nationalist who was subdued by Meles. He was worse than Meles in his outlook on Ethiopia and Amharas. Siye through his leadership facilitated the transfer of the public’s wealth to his ethnic group’s coffers.

Siye never rejected woyanne even after six years of incarceration by woyanne. All he wants to do is reform woyanne so as to follow his political beliefs. He never denounced ethnic-federalism or admitted that his stand on Eritrea was wrong. Many of our brothers and sisters are dying of hunger today because of the actions he took when he was in power. Today Ethiopia is paying $700 million a year for port Djibouti and unable to sufficiently import the aid food at rate that copes with the critical demand.

How come someone who never cared about Ethiopia’s national interest -- economic, geopolitical— stands out as one of the last hopes of Ethiopia? How come someone who is admittedly wrong, which means half as smart as the rest of us who were against his deadly and destructive ideology and policies, is given the chance to be part of our leadership and a de facto leader of UDJ?

It is one thing to forgive him for what he has done, but it's absolutely completely mind boggling and another thing to see him as a political asset when he is inferior to us politically and his loyalty and allegiance to the flag and the republic is suspect. It’s also another thing trying to give him another chance before those who were tortured, killed and exiled by him got a chance.

UDJ may think appeasing the enemy or working with any x-woyanne members maybe the way to go. They may think they could counter the Tigre nationalists through him and the Oromo nationalists through Negasso. In my book that is not forgiveness; that is called opportunism or give and take. I tell you these two are the wrong persons even for that kind of political calculation. And that kind of horse trading may pass for smart politics but responsibility, accountability, transparency, morality and sense of truth and honesty will be the permanent causality in our society.

This will foster lack of trust in the Democratic tradition of the country because all people like Siye need to absolve themselves from their past crimes is a mere short and cryptic apology then they can get right back at it and start where they left off. In a sense this says that you are accountable for your crimes and actions only when you have nothing to offer.

Even if it’s taken at a face value, this unholy alliance doesn’t pass the criterion set by Siye himself for a successful and lasting political unity. Alliances that never solved outstanding issues such as those mentioned by Siye in his 35 page paper and serious issues such as Siye's and Negasso's alleged involvement in past crimes such as Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity and possible legal claims that my arise against them from those incidents in the future and its effect on the political alliance are dead from the start. There are other issues as well such as Siye’s involvement in defrauding the Ethiopian people through EFFORT and how this things will be handled in the future political arrangements, just to mention a few.

That is why many say this substandard agreement has all the hallmarks of the Western diplomats in Ethiopia who are being pressured by Meles to force the Opposition to accept woyane and organize in the same way as EPRDF -- one Oromo representative, one Tigre representative, one Amahra representative, etc. UDJ is going down the road of EPRDF to defeat woyanne. UDJ is becoming woyanne to "defeat" woyanne.

The valid fear and concern of many is that UDJ has been hijacked to throw the quickly sinking woyanne a life raft. Many staunch opposition supporters thought AEUP’s Hailu was the most stupid politician to ever walk on the face of the earth, because of the recent agreement (code of conduct governing the 2010 election) he signed with Meles. But many didn't expect their own UDJ will out do him in such a short time.

That unnatural and out of the ordinary, sudden move made many reach into a conclusion. Now it's obvious what is going on. It's all about jockeying for attention and relevance. It's all about pre-positioning oneself to be a beneficiary of the recent trend in African Democracy. It's all about appearing a viable pressure group that should be considered in power-sharing arrangement with Meles Zenwi's EPRDF. There you have it. A very sad dead-end for UDJ’s and AEUP’s principled stand on Ethiopia's future.

abate writes

"I think this is a great news. These two guys are well respected in Ethiopia. EPRDF will do everything to eliminate this brave guys. I hope their unity will strength the weak opposition parties we have currently. We need like Dr. Negasso who can fight toe to toe with Meles. Dr. Negasso is well respected man in Ethiopia and around the world. Go UDJ!!! "

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msg Comment from: selam [Visitor]
Below my thoughts:

- Those who are against Seye, Negasso joining UDJ wrote long well reasoned comments. Those who support these guys joining UDJ wrote short and naive comments. This shows what kind of people are in favour and against

- Very unfortunately, no one (or very few) made neutral and helpful comments. This shows that Ethiopian politics and Ethiopian elites (I consider all who have internet and comment as elites) are still very polarized – thus immature.

- Challenger writes “… It’s also another thing trying to give him [Seye] another chance before those who were tortured, killed and exiled by him got a chance”. This is scary thought because still many of our articulate and intelligent politicians think that one’s position in a political party should reflect one’s sacrifice. That is not how democracy functions or should function. In a democracy one’s position in a political party or leadership is determined exclusively by the will - and only by the will - of its members. I really don’t know if the UDJ leadership is elected. If they are not elected leaders and if membership Seye/Negasso is not openly debated by the members, then it is irrelevant whether Seye or ‘Challenger’ is promoted to the party’s high position. The problem is not who is welcomed or appointed but the process through which that happens.

- Time and time again we see that leaders and parties being criticized. I wonder if the problem lies only on those individuals. Probably the problem lies in our people – our cultures, our traditions, our religions. Remember, our political leaders don’t fall from the sky but come instead from our midst. They are shaped and formed by our cultures, traditions, customs, religions, etc. There must be something wrong with us.
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msg Comment from: SAMI YEMEN [Visitor]
unfortunatly, we ethiopians are best at back stabbing eachother, let's unity and work for the benfit of the country. it does not matter whether siya or nega were fromer members of the ruling party. At the end of the day they are ethiopians
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msg Comment from: Selam [Visitor]
Meles and his killer machines Seye and Gidada are playing with you folks. :crazy: Don´t be naive and beside of this how the hell can we welcome a murder? We have to try them and welcome them.
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msg Comment from: Birhanu [Visitor]
This is one of the greatest news in recent Ethiopian history. I applaud the two politicians and UDJ for the breakthrough. Both of these politicians have contributed a great deal for the democratic movement in the country. We wouldn't have seen a Forum called Medrek where all the oppositions can debate and pass a stand on issues. These politicians have done right all the wrong they've done, in my oppinion. EPRDF would’ve done the same atrocities and killings in the country whether or not these two individuals were in the party. We’ve seen the worst of EPRDF after the two left the party. UDJ have evaluated these individuals not based on their words and opposition to the EPRDF but on their action in strengthening the democratic movement.

Everyone has a revelation, some are major. In the bible, God’s most chosen apostle was St. Paul, who for a long time chased down and killed Christians. A genuine awakening does really happen. To see whether or not their revelation is genuine, it helps not just to look at their words but their actions. These two politicians have contributed, in action, a great deal to strengthen the democratic movement. They’ve proved it in action. They are also very resourceful in identifying the EPRDF moves as they used to be insiders. They also have great resources. Negaso has been doing a great deal of work in helping revamp the struggle for democracy in Oromia and the rest of the country. He is a whole lot more trusted by Ethiopians living in Oromia region than the UDJ. He can bring a great deal of support. He also recognizes the agenda of the Oromo people. He can help bring those voices to the major opposition party and get millions of supporters behind the party. One of the failures of the CUD was that it didn’t have a majority support in the Oromia region. They didn’t even address the agenda of the Oromo people. With Negasso Gidada, he can bring those voices and help the UDJ address them.

After all, you can’t claim to be a representative of Ethiopians if you fail to also represent the majority Ethnic group in the country. Seye Abaraha is a heavy weight politician that has a great deal of leverage. He is a seasoned politician that was a guerilla fighter along with his TPLF comrades. He’s been on both sides of oppression. He knows the military and the internal workings of the EPRDF. EPRDF often tries to put out there propaganda as if they’re helping Tigray at the cost of the rest of Ethiopia. They’re simply trying to hold hostage the Tigray people. In their belief, the rest of Ethiopians will alienate Tigray and they tell Tigrians that the only way for them to stay safe is if they harbor the TPLF. They want to make sure that they have a safe heaven and support of one of the major Ethnic groups and relatively ethnically homogenous regions of Ethiopia. The presence of Seye with UDJ gives UDJ the support of Tigrians. All the fear mongering that EPRDF puts out there, they can see that Seye wouldn’t sell his people. Tigray people trust Seye Abraha more than any of the major players in TPLF.

These two politicians will add a great deal to the representation and the leverage that the UDJ has and they’ll contribute to the agenda in a way to make the party more representative of Ethiopians. They’ll also have a great platform to promote democracy and defeat the TPLF with the support of the whole of Ethiopians. So it’s great news to hear, music to my ears.

When it comes to negotiation, the current UDJ leaders haven’t shown a great deal of skills. During the failed negotiation, Bereket Semon talked them down and they complained creating a disagreement that ended the negotiation. That was exactly the TPLF plan. Bereket Semon has the least leverage and decision making authority of all the major TPLF players. The only time they send him for negotiation is when they want someone to disrespect others and end negotiation with disagreement. He doesn’t have the authority to give in to any of their demands without the authorization of the rest of TPLF leaders. So if during the negotiations, Seye Abaraha was one of the representatives, it would’ve been a different outcome. He’s smart enough to know how they want to derail a negotiation. Most of all, Bereket Semon won’t be attempting to threaten and talk down the opposition if Seye was one of their representatives. The TPLF know that Seye has so many followers and people who sympathize with him, in the military as well as in Civil institutions of EPRDF. If Bereket tries to disrespect him like that, he knows he’ll get a retribution from Seye’s supporters in the military or else. It’ll get personal. So I believe that UDJ should have Seye as one of their representatives during negotiations.

I think all of these people who wrote in detail have a hidden agenda. They're the Aiga forum heros that intend to divide Ethiopians. They're trying to make those two politicians look bad in their effort to break up the opposition. They're the EPRDF propaganda machines. I know their writing styles from my experience of reading some of their comments on Aiga and other pro EPRDF websites. I feel bad for these sell outs.
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msg Comment from: Lul [Visitor]
I don´z know how many dummies we have but the seem to be too many. Who cares about those two "former" EPRDF that joins UDJ. Ones Ethiopia is rulled by the true leaders, those bunch of Weyane will end up in the court and then in jail. They murdered students, mothers and children. Their late move can´t bring back the lives they took. Murder is murder.
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msg Comment from: selework [Visitor]
For those of us residing in ethiopia,leaving in a hot world of unendless political theatre,Negaso and Siye playing a part which is written to them.In a word these guys have thus far proved to the real threat to EPRDF.The past has blinded some of you.I know for sure EPRDF cadres are furious and engaged in defaming these men.
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msg Comment from: kindeneh [Visitor]
:?: infact it is a good news to hear from these people to support a party which includes all the parties of all nations from south to north and from est to west eventhough wedidn't forget their participation in the destruction of ethiopia from the very beginning! Above all what we ethipians really want is that by forgatting the pas to work together and to build a dmocratic ethiopia based on the will and the happiness of all nations all over ethioia!
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