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Scores killed in Ethiopia floods

Updated Aug 8 2006 10:24 AM EDT

10,000 homeless in flood-hit eastern town

ADDIS ABABA, 8 August (IRIN) - At least 10,000 people have lost their homes in the eastern Ethiopian city of Dire Dawa after a flash flood hit the area, killing hundreds, officials said on Tuesday.

"The city administration has so far registered more than 10,000 [homeless people]," said Getachew Asres, Dire Dawa city administration police commander. "They are temporarily sheltered in schools and tents and getting food and other necessary support."

More than 300 people are still unaccounted for after 197 bodies were recovered. The search for more bodies was continuing on Tuesday. "Most of the homeless people lost their houses and family members to the flood," Getachew added.

The Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi visited the area on Monday and said the government would send more emergency food assistance and shelter to those who were made homeless.

Heavy rains in Dire Dawa, 525 km east of the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, caused the Dechatu river to burst its banks, prompting flood waters to hit the country's second-largest city. Many of the dead, including 40 children, drowned because they were sleeping. The city was also dark because the electricity supply was off.

The police warned that the risk of flooding was still high because heavy rains were falling in the highland areas outside the city.

Meanwhile, another flood induced by heavy rainfall in the Kombolcha district of East Harrarghe zone, 400 km east of Addis Ababa, has destroyed more than 100 homes, the police said. The four-hour downpour that occurred on Monday night displaced 500 people.

The rainfall caused a landslide in Jarso Woreda, blocking the road that connects the zone with Harar town and Kombolcha, said Seyoum Degefu, the zonal police spokesman.

Flooding in southern and eastern Ethiopia is a frequent occurrence, and according to weather experts, occurs due to unseasonal heavy rains in the highlands that flow into the lowland areas.

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IRIN

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Updated Aug 7 2006 5:00 PM EDT


Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, second from right, and other politicians and disaster-relief officials surveying one of the worst-affected sites in Dire Dawa - about 500 km east of the capital, Addis Ababa - after a flood struck early Sunday morning. The flood killed more than 200 people, with the death toll still rising. Officials report that more than 300 people are missing or unaccounted for in the disaster. (AP Photo/Les Neuhaus)


An overturned truck, Monday, Aug. 7, 2006, tossed by massive flooding in the far eastern Ethiopian city of Dire Dawa., A flash flood swept through the city early Sunday morning and is blamed for more than 200 deaths, with the toll expected to climb as recovery continues. Officials also report more than 300 unaccounted for, or missing persons.(AP Photo/ Les Neuhaus ).

Updated Aug 7 2006 10:00 AM EDT

Ethiopia flood toll hits 206 as rescuers search for hundreds missing


By Abraham Fisseha

File photo in 2005DIRE DAWA, Ethiopia (AFP)

Rescuers have clawed through mud and debris with their hands, garden tools and heavy equipment in eastern Ethiopia, searching for hundreds of people missing after lethal flash floods.

While relatives began identifying victims of the weekend flooding in and around the provincial town of Dire Dawa, officials said 206 bodies had been recovered but the toll was expected to climb as 300 people were still unaccounted for.

"We have been able to recover 206 bodies and we have also rescued 96 injured people," said an official with Ethiopia's federal Disaster Prevention and Preparedness Commission on Monday.

"The search and rescue efforts are still going on but we expect the death toll to rise," the official told AFP on condition of anonymity after flying into Dire Dawa with Prime Minister Meles Zenawi to inspect the damage.

"It is a sad day to all of us," Meles said in the town of some 400,000, about 500 kilometers (300 miles) east of Addis Ababa. "We have lost our brothers and sisters."

He added: "The Ethiopian government will do everything in its power to bring normal life back to the people of Dire Dawa and to give all needed support to those affected by the disaster."

But his consoling words appeared to have little impact on survivors who wandered the devastated streets, weeping and moaning, many unable to comprehend how the now-receded raging waters caused so much damage.

"I lost my husband and my child, my life is now nothing," said 32-year-old Bezunesh Abegaz. "I don't see any hope or future for me."

"I saw them die in a terrible way, but at least I can draw comfort from having recovered and buried them," she told AFP. "Now, I'm sorry for my neighbours who have not yet found the bodies of their loved ones."

At least 39 of the confirmed dead are children under the age of seven, according to police who said many of the casualties were women, children and the elderly who were sleeping and unable to escape when the floods hit.

Residents said they were using their bare hands, hoes, trowels, shovels as well as bulldozers and other earth-moving equipment to dig through sand, mud and rubble in search of bodies or people still alive.

Aid workers said some 10,000 people had been left homeless by the waters from the swollen Dechatu and Dire Dawa rivers which broke their banks, sweeping through the town and nearby villages, killing many while they slept.

The floods in the Addis Ketema, Genfele, Coca Cola and Aftessa districts caused massive property damage, destroying hundreds of homes, trading stalls and cutting a key road linking the town to Addis Ababa, they said.

In addition, the waters brought down electricity and telephone lines, further complicating rescue efforts in an area in Ethiopia's lowlands that is prone to flooding during the June-to-September rainy season, they said.

Last year, at least 200 people were killed and more than 260,000 displaced when heavy rains pounded the region, flooding rivers that quickly attracted large numbers of crocodiles and forced survivors to cling to trees to escape.

Over the last several years, flooding has affected large areas of eastern and southern Ethiopia, displacing tens of thousands of people and causing damage worth millions of dollars, particularly to agriculture.

The floods follow a devastating drought that hit the east Africa region, threatening the lives of about 15 million people in five countries, including Ethiopia and neighboring Somalia and Kenya.

Ethiopia, a nation of about 70 million people, has repeatedly been ravaged by natural calamities, notably drought and famine.

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AFP

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Scores killed in Ethiopia floods
BBC News
Sunday, 6 August 2006

Almost 200 people are reported to have died after a river burst its banks and floodwaters swept through the city of Dire Dawa in eastern Ethiopia.

The local police commissioner said 39 of the dead were young children.
The Dechatu river overflowed, sweeping water through the city
Officials said hundreds of homes were destroyed when the Dechatu river overflowed on Saturday night.

Over the past two years flooding has afflicted large areas of eastern and southern Ethiopia, killing hundreds and displacing hundreds of thousands.

'Washed away'

A heavy downpour hit Dire Dawa city, some 500km east of the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, in the early hours of Saturday, residents told news agency AFP.

"My home is situated a bit far from the river, I was in bed when I heard people shouting," said 45-year-old Abaye Baheru.

"I opened the door, and the water burst in, forcing me to escape to the rooftop from where police rescued me, but my house and property were destroyed.

"While on the rooftop, I saw men, women and children being washed away, while crying for help," Mr Abaye said.

The floods also swept away vehicles and livestock, and destroyed markets and shops, witnesses said.

Thousands of Dire Dawa's estimated 250,000 residents have been displaced by the flooding.

"The death toll from the flood caused by the overflow in Dire Dawa reached 191 by 8.30 pm (1730 GMT)," regional Dire Dawa Police Commissioner Getachew Asres said.

He said 39 of the dead were children aged under seven years.

Flooding often hits low-lying parts of Ethiopia during the June-to-September rainy season.

The flooding has caused mass destruction

Last year at least 200 people were killed - some by crocodiles in the floodwaters - when heavy rains pounded the same region.

The flooding also caused millions of dollars worth of damage, particularly to small farmers.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/africa/5250386.stm

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File Photo: A herder tries to cross a flooded area in Ethiopia with his donkey, in 2005. Flash floods have killed more than 191 people in eastern Ethiopia, sweeping away many of the victims in their sleep, after a heavy downpour caused a river to overflow, police said.(AFP/File/Lea-Lisa Westerhoff)

Ethiopia floods kill at least 129

From correspondents in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

August 07, 2006 12:00
Article from: Agence France-Presse

AT least 129 people were killed in flash floods in eastern Ethiopia after an intense, sudden downpour pounded the region, sweeping away many of the victims in their sleep, police said.

"So far 129 people are confirmed dead. We are still looking for more on the outskirts of the city and all along the river from the north to south," said Inspector Beniam Fikru, a top police official in Dire Dawa region, about 500km east of the capital Addis Ababa.

Aid workers and residents, who scoured for the survivors and bodies, said several thousands of civilians were displaced and others reported missing.

"We have between 2000 and 3000 people displaced. With the ICRC (International Committee for Red Cross) and other government organisations, we are trying to facilitate shelters and other support as the search for more bodies and survivors goes on," said Kasahun Debelie, a local Red Cross official.

Residents said the casualties of the floods, which are as a result of the June-to-September rainy season, were mainly women and children, many of whom were swept away while asleep in poorly constructed shacks along the river bank in the poverty ravaged region.

The heavy downpour pummelled the area for more than an hour and a half, causing the River Dire Dawa that passes through the town to burst its banks and flood in the region.

Last year, at least 200 people were killed and more than 260,000 displaced when heavy rains pounded the same region, which lies close to Ethiopia's Somali state.

In those floods, swarms of crocodiles devoured villagers, while others clung on to trees in a desperate attempt to avoid being eaten.

The floods follow a devastating drought that hit the east African region, threatening the lives of about 15 million people.

Ethiopia, a nation of about 70 million people, has repeatedly been ravaged by natural calamities, notably drought and famine.

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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil [Visitor]
What a terrible news this is! When will we be able to avoid such predictable disastrous? When?
Are we going to have a similar one in August 2007?

Ra'Oeil
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 20:15

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msg Comment from: yebostenu [Visitor]
God please help us why these all things are happening in Ethiopia. We had enogh last year Weyane killed 200 hundred innocent Ethiopians, mother nature again. God please please turn your face to Ethiopa
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 20:34

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msg Comment from: HABESHAW [Visitor]
Oh........ This is very sad.. God help the Dire Dawa people... But why do we always have to talk about politics, this is nothing to do with politics please stop it. Every time something happened in Ethiopia some people want to use it to condemn the government. The government have nothing to do with it, it's just nature... Think before you write ok!

[Please do not use all upper case letters next time. ]
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 20:56

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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Member]
Our hearts and minds should be with the people of Dire Dawa.

We should all try and mobilize some resources towards the rehabilitation of the victims.

PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 21:33

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msg Comment from: yoni [Member]
Nobody blamed The Indonesianm Indian, Sirilankan...gov't when SUNAMI hits the region.

Forget your Narrow political view and SEND YOUR $$$$$$ TO HELP OUT.

Shame on all you guys relating this story with politics. Do you see why you will never succeed in achieving power

ADIOS

PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 21:40

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msg Comment from: bordede [Visitor]
what a sad story!May God rest thier soul in heven and help their family recover from this shcoking disaster

This area has been affected by floods for many years and every body knows the worest might happen some day .Because of Woyane's silly
"geterun yamakele" economic policy towns and cities were almost forgoten for 15 years.So this is purely the out come of their policy! Any way will they take a lesson from this terribel disaster so that they turn thier face to town?
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 22:17

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Ra'Oeil,

Very Simple.

In order to avoid this kind of natural calamity to be repeated over and over again, the govt should erect a dam just at the entrance of the city of DireDawa (coming from Dengueguo)Not too far from the High School.

First the dam will provide electrical power for all the surroundings even exporting electricity to Djibouti; and the water that is captured instead of being wasted in the "Chee nee lae" area, it could be used as a potable water for the city of DD (if the water is well treated).

I mean what is the problem with Meles administration. They have been on power for the last 15 years and did not even come with a solution for this perennial problem: this flash flood "Gor FF" had been wreaking havoc in the city of DD since time immemorial.

Meles if ever you are reading this posting please do heed this warning. You have to come with the money to finance a dam in DD, otherwise just pack-up and go retire in your mansion in Denver. This is the most basic thing you could have done for the city of DD. Instead of wasting Ethiopian money buying guns from Czech Republic you could have done something useful for the city of DD.

I am talking about the second most beautiful city in the whole Ethiopia after Harrar.
Who did not fall in love in the city of DD while listening to that famous french music in the early 70's, "Capri, c'est fini; et dire que c'est la ville de mon premier amour. Capri, c'est fini, je ne crois pas que je retournerais un jour. Capri...lala..." Seriously something has to be done for this city.
Santenaw, don't tell me again to go to church for fasting and prayers. Because I am still a hot Babe, I am afraid the priests will lust after me.
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 22:31

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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Member]
Weyzero Konjo,

very cleaver idea!

I wish you were a Weyzerit Konjo instead of Weyzero Konjo.
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/06 @ 23:59

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msg Comment from: Chala [Visitor]
To protect the society from natural disaster Government has to have disaster relief plan, but I don’t think the Tigrea Government willing to do that. Last year crocodiles in the floodwaters killed at least 200 people - some - when heavy rains pounded the same region. So what have been done to protect people from the last year natural disaster? Is there any plan to protect people from such catastrophic? Again this is another tragedy; what will happen for the next year?

Look at the road, building and transportation infrastructures has been gone long time ago. There was no government attention for all these basic necessary for public safety in the region of east, west and south but they do have economic facilities for the region of Tigrea and for personal gain to accumulate their bank account in the western world, but the rest of Ethiopian city has no a single penny project. The truth is all the money they make for their personal gain and to their province is coming from the largest province of east, west and south part of the country. This is not a public secret any body knows where the county economic resource is.

I have no complain for what Mother Nature does to the region; to me it is not a Mother Nature problem the problem is with the government. Rain comes once a year to moisturize the land and give fertility to the soil. Of course the heavy rain can destroy baseless housing and Muddy Street. All I have to say is where selfish and racist ethnic leader took place there is no solution for any tragedy. If there is some plan in their subconscious mind to solve problem they should prepared to protect people from natural disaster for this year heavy rain, but didn’t care happen again and take away the life of 129 people in the region. Mind can act only on one thing can’t be do two things at a time; they are running for power struggle to stay in power to accumulate wealth. Their mind is full of greed and selfishness. How they could be able to do constructions for public safety? If they have willing to do so there is no more huge money in their bank account.

Please, any one who wants to read this article don’t consider as a political agenda I’m not a member of any political organizations.
Thanks.
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 00:13

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Yoni
This is in response to your posting, :
"Nobody blamed The Indonesianm Indian, sirilankan...gov't when SUNAMI hits the region. Forget your Narrow political view and SEND YOUR $$$$$$ TO HELP OUT." Yoni


In all due respect the Tsunami that hit the Indoneasians and South East Asia is something that happened once in a blue moon when there is an earthquake deep in the ocean floor.

We are talking about a seasonal flash flood that occures every single year. Sometimes it is benign but very often this flash flood "GOR FF" was and still is very destructive.
And according to you what is more important - building a dam or buying guns, and armored vehicles.

And thanks to Meles who provided ethiopian passport to somalis of somalia, the population of Dire Dawa has multiplied by 100 folds. And needless to mention that these somalis of somalia made the city of DD very expensive for the locals (the Kotus and the Amharas) who started to live in small house at the entrance of DD on the other side of the dry river bed, some even on the hill and they are the one who are always swept by this flash flood.

By the way this dry river bed that divides the city of DD in two sections; it is dry most of the year except when there is "Gor ff"
when there is downpour on the mountains of Dengueguo.

Like you said it, it is not politic but simple common sense that a dam should be erected just near the High School. And if you are not happy, just take an aspirin and call your doctor tomorrow.


PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 00:21

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ
You wrote, "I wish you were a Weyzerit Konjo instead of Weyzero Konjo."

Weyzerit...weyzero what is the difference? It is just semantics.

We are on this forum just to exchange ideas about our country. You can have any nick name for the purpose of this forum and I chose Wozeiro Condjo believing that you guys gonna respect me but... with people like santenaw on this forum, the word respect is nonexistent. I should have used ubiqutous nick name like Mimi or Chuchu.
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 00:56

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msg Comment from: Megala [Visitor]
It's a very sad news!!!
Dire is not deserving this!!!!

No one is Willing to hear Professionals and the result is this BIG.


As an Urban engineering professional,I would say

The administrators SINCE DERG,have to take the responsibility for all of these destruction.

I have been working in Dire dawa master plan project,thus i am confident enough to talk something about it.

After detailed geological and hydrological studies,it has been concluded that river dechatu is the most distructive natural drainage channel for dire dawa city.As a primary protection, BUFFER ZONE or settlement free- zone was established about 60mts from both side of the river.But different govermental and private constructions were constructed even inside the channel in contrary with the master plan proposal.

This is not the first time for Dire dawa town to be flooded by dechatu river. As far as I know destructive flooding has been occured 4 times for the last 20 years.Horably,it has observed that the recurrency is reduced to 1-2 years.

Every times we are paying hundreds of human life and milions of dollar.So do we have to wait the same destruction next year?? I feel sad to see that human life is so cheap in ETHIOPIA!

Every year people are dying and property is damaging. WHY ACTION IS NOT TAKEN??????

WHY OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT GIVING PRIORITY FOR HUMAN LIFE??

This time I feel SO BAD. I am from DIRE and still I didn't call to family,affraid of bad news,but no choice i have to do it.....

Cher Yaseman!!


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msg Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]

Cheffeeይርጋጨፍ, based on your comment is this;

"Weyzero Konjo,

very cleaver idea!
I wish you were a Weyzerit Konjo instead of Weyzero Konjo.
08/06/06 @ 23:59 "

Cheffee, for your information, this is already SECOND HAND comments and this is already shown in my previous comments.

Well, Im not wonder why i called you "Blind As*hole" before because you didnt see any originality, or maybe you are courting to Weyzero Condjo isnt it?

Here are my comments before, to let your eyes open again. . .

"Well, let me tell something to these "Monkeys". .

First, what is the main cause of that floods? This stupid government they know that area are flooded prone area and WHY they didnt build Dams or Floodways to reduce environmental damage or to avoid the destruction of farms and animals? This UGLY regime thinking "No Problem! people already evacuated", Stupid! After the flood where they go? where those animals belongs to them? Dont ever tell me that also the cows, goats and others are rescued with this 5 boats? with 5 boats there is 3000 persons per boat it is unbelievable! how many months before they can start farming because the farms are eruded and damaged?

The LEBA government should build Dams or Floodways! This UGLY regime anticipated the floods and they planned but WHY they didnt build that? Where is the government funds for this area?

Dams or Floodways are designed to reduced floods and to minimized the environmental impact to that area. They can use also the water for other purposes.

08/03/06 @ 06:30

Cheffee, better you to go to optomitrist and let them check your eyes and dont forget also to tell this to your LEBAKING master.
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 03:11

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msg Comment from: Anchiye [Visitor]
Ow what a terrible and horrible disasters? Please pray God rest thir soul in heaven.We have to help victims immediatly now.The government also has to take future prevention becuase this is not the first time to occure.Last year more than 50 have died.So the government is also resposnsible
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 03:56

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msg Comment from: Des the African [Visitor]
dear w/ro conjo i respect u since u speak the truth but some times avoid ur hasty generalization of hating some nations for the crime committed by few of their members in the past.I really feel untoldable sad Disturbance about what the flood has brought on the hospitable and lovley people of DD.I beg my God to give condolence and strength for the vicitms and their faimilies.
For how long our people suffer as such by frequent famine,flooding,drought blha,blha.It is the responiblitieis of the "governemnt" of the country to take prcautions about such disaster.But they are always thinking of filling their jonya stomak at the expense of innocent Ethiopians.Rather than running here and there to attack oppstion parties why do not u take a feedback from them.You arrogant leadres of The country and city what is yur answer for this I fear lest associate with CUD,but if you did not use ur guns and if opponent poltical parties ar ein power we would balme them not be ready for the disaster.but the only blamed bodies are the EPRDF's unpoplar governemnt that ravave the country through war and corrupted adminstration for more than 3 decades.
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 03:57

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msg Comment from: guuled [Visitor]
replay to Wozeiro condjo
they were habash who born inside the river they washed by the river they dont belong the city they have to sleep inside the river the somalia live the best part of the city becuase they belong the city. long live somalian and muslim down with habash and etiopian
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 05:25

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msg Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
What a terrible tragedy. This is so sad story for every one. I hope the government effort will quick recovery for the needy.
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msg Comment from: Woytata [Visitor]
i wish God lay thier soul down in heaven and i wish comfort to the families who has lost their beloved.It's really sad news to hear and of course shocking see the figure that portrayed the number of dead. anyways, what one can do about it? it's natural calamity, even the worst scenario of the trajedy is that it did happen at night. I can't blame the govt because let alone this poor country, even those who are called civilized couldn't put the likes of natural calamities well in hand. argueably to those who blame the govt, simply look at what has been happening in the states and what happened to them a couple of months ago by caterina. they did no effort to counter the problem of caterina which made quite thousands of citizens homeless and forced them to leave the area. So, does that mean the US govt in incapable of constructing dams or whatever physical measures given their high lvel of technology and of course infinite trillions of dollars? I dont think so. but, simply because, it's quite cumbursome to predict what will happen in case of natural disasters. Nevertheless, i'm not talking in favor of the epdrf govt and acknowledging them for what they are doing, but just to be fair and have a balanced arguement regarding non-political issues. actually, i agree with some postings here advocating that it'd be better to construct a dam in the outskirts of the town (DD) if the conditions allow to do so.
Good luck for all who are involved in rehabilitating the destitutes and protecting further damage in the area. God be with the people.
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msg Comment from: tazabe [Visitor]
real ethiopia now talk with money.you people always talk about the people now is your time to show,that you share what you have.now donot talk about meles do your share!!!!!!!!!!
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msg Comment from: my dire [Visitor]
There you go again blaming the government. Stop your whining and support the people by sending money
Thank u
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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Member]
Weyzero Konjo,


Though I sometimes disagree with you, I respect you. You are one of the few smart, moderate, and progressive persons in this site.

At any rate, I thought your last post was very impressive---- so I said I wished you were a “weyzerite” (single woman) 
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
OH God! Why this kind of thing has to happen to the poor people of Ethiopia?

We are already suffering at the hands of the TPLF we do not deserve to suffer from another catastrophe like this one.

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msg Comment from: Yebase AtamTa [Visitor]
Ouuu.. Weizero,

Folks on this forum are not at your caliber in terms of weight of substance and command of language. Better give it up ... ;)
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msg Comment from: Mujaahid [Visitor]
Innaa Lillahi wa Innaa ileyhi raaji'uun

The fact that they were in bed when the fload hit makes it more horrific.I hope we won't the death toll won't be more than the reported one.

It is not the first time that it is hit by fload, but I don't remember a one costed such a high fugure of life.What makes it more succeptible is that sometimes they get floaded though there might not a drop in Dire due to rain-falls at the upstream catchment areas.I think that improving the wether forecast sytem could help in saving the life of the innocents, by warning and alerting them on the speculated scenarios. I think that Dire desserves it and can have considerable contribution if not cover to more stable infrustructure with longer term solution.

My heart goes to all victims and may Allah give the patient to those who lost their dears.
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msg Comment from: Mark [Visitor]
The government is totally responsible for this. Everybody knows that the town has experienced this kind problem several times before. Shame on you those who try to defend the government and the administration of the city. They need to be held accountable for this tragedy. I can not imagine the horror those innocent children and others went thorough before they met their death.
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo,

Thanks for your intelligent and caring message. I like it better when speak deep from your heart. I don't know that French song and would appreciate having the whole lyric. As to the Government, will they ever listen to you? Will they ever listen to anyone?

lets re-read this quote: "Last year, at least 200 people were killed and more than 260,000 displaced when heavy rains pounded the region, flooding rivers that quickly attracted large numbers of crocodiles and forced survivors to cling to trees to escape.

Over the last several years, flooding has affected large areas of eastern and southern Ethiopia, displacing tens of thousands of people and causing damage worth millions of dollars, particularly to agriculture."

Hey Woyanians, what has the Government done since last year?

They could be re-born five times and still would not get it!

What a shame.

Also, although I almost never agree with him, Yirgas' above comment is supposed to be a compliment to you. Take it as it is.

Please somebody, let us know if there is an independent (Ethiopian non-governmental NGO) that is working to help the victims, we should come together and help our people.

May God give strength to those in need.

Ra'Oeil
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
My Dire:
No one is blaming the govt. for that natural calamity; but we are voicing our rage to the fact that this "Gor FF" occurs every single year.

Haile should have done something, Mengustu should have done something and Meles more than anyone else should have built the dam; Meles has leverage because neither Haile nor Mengustu were receiving this kind of money from the World Bank while they were on power. The city of DD can put the blame of their predicament on Meles and his predecessors.
It is very true Meles brought the Chinese to build many infrastructure in the province of Harrar but the Dam for the city of Dire Dawa is exigency more than ever.

Santenaw:
Wooow, nowadays you don't have your cousin as the Adm. of this forum to let you post all your rubbish. I believe the new Adm is censoring you. Finally, the "Tun kola" from the hindu temple is working.

Ra'Oeil:
I don't remember the whole lyric but you can download the music from LIMEWIRE for free.

And for those of you who have never been in DD, let me describe it to you as we all remember it before hordes of somalis(not the indegenous Issas, but somalis of somalia) come and settle here.

It is an alluring little pedestrian city. People like to walk in this city. With a genial climate and a blithe lifestyle you fall under its spell easily. Visitors who flocked to this city are smitten by its seductive blend of local charm and European atmosphere. People are dazzled by the city joie de vivre and its palpable tradition. There is no snobbish people in DD. It is very common to see a very rich man sipping a scalding tea with his employees.

Dire-Dawa with its myriad of People (Greek, Italians, Yemenis, Sudanese, Issas somalis, Haderes, Kotus, Amharas, Gurayes, Tigrays, Armenians and French)is a proof to the whole world that disparate group can live together in harmony and mutual respect. It is an enlightened city, free from all national and religious prejudices that cripple the rest of Ethiopia.

When you go to the juice bar or restaurant, you can witness street urchins giving you orders (not begging) to give them some changes. People are equal in this city. There is no need for Ato or Weizero, instead the locals use those ubiqutous words as - Abbo, Warya, Anchee.
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msg Comment from: TG [Visitor]
It is the sad story.
Please God bless Ethiopian people.Sometimes I do not even know why this kind of terible things happen to our inocent Ethiopian people.Please all Ethiopian people let's pray from our heart for our our peopleand help each other.
God bess Ethiopian.
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msg Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
What a sad news! May God rest their soul in haven! Hey Gobez, It's time for true Ethiopian to do all the best to the victims of this terrable disaster.

Oh..Dire, you don't desrve this. My favourate town.
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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
god bless the victims of this horrible tragedy.please lets try to help our people instead of politicizing every hapenings.lets not exploit every occurance for our selfish and childish political end.you know in the west in a time like this no body waits for government to take action first the people do.for heAVEN SAKE LIFE IS BEYOND POLITICS .FOR MANY OF THIS PEOPLE POLITICS IS A GOOD REASON TO DO NOTHING.
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msg Comment from: Joker (*_*) [Visitor]
GOD bless ethiopia! AMEN. GOD watch over ethiopia! Amen .God please eradicate Melese and his entourage AMEN.

LONG LIVE ABSIYINYA AND ITS RIGHOUSE PEOPLE NOT THE EVIL

GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA.

Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen.
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msg Comment from: ABEBE BOKE [Visitor]
What a sad story is this? This is a real time to help these people.
Nazret.com, please organize all Ethiopians all over North America, Australia and Europe.
Our condolences to all lost life.
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msg Comment from: GDR [Visitor]
Stop! The politics and try to help our victims! You people always blame the government! For god sake government has nothing to do with natural disaster!
Allah bless the victims of this tragedy.
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msg Comment from: fatuma [Visitor]
Wz. Conjo,


Dire Diwa sounds like a great place! I also heard that people always use 4 letter words casually all the time and mean nothing bad.


Are you sure the new Somalis are not Ogadeni clan somalis?

I agree this govt should have built a dam to prevent these kinds of floods.



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msg Comment from: Choice [Visitor]
The flood is no surprise!
In scientific point of view, it might be associated with "Global WARMING". In spiritual point of view it could be a "Global WARNING".

In case the former, it is unlikely that the Glob will get cooler as long as greedy nations are not willing to deal with all the cause.
But with regard to the latter, humanity has failed God, and it could be a wake up call to get our attention and heed his WARNING and be right with Him.

Well, to put it down to either of the above, is upto every individual.


Choice.
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msg Comment from: Ross Rolirad [Visitor]
I made my first visit to Ethiopia last year as part of a polio eradication effort through Rotary. I found out during that visit what wonderful people Ethiopians are. I am deeply saddened by the loss of life in this terrible disaster. My prayers are with all the affected families. God be with you!
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msg Comment from: yoni [Member]
Woizerite Konjo,

I got your point. To some extent u r right. But my frustration is that u and others never fail to point out the failure of the gov't when anything happen. Hey, Our people have been starving from one year to another, regardless of the scale that happen quite often too. should we use our common sense too. OFCOURSE. But I am tired of yo guys crying and do nothing.

ACTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN POINTING OUT THE PROBLEM. THE VICTIMS DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT SHIIIT.
To make u understand where my frustration come from, i'll let u in in a little story.
Few years ago both Eritrea and Ethiopia have been hit by drought (five years to be exact). It took 2 weeks for the Eritrean community to gather $100,000 US and was sent quick. The Ethiopian community raised $20,000 US and the money stayed here for more than 45 days because we were trying to figure out who should take WITH. Imagine how many people died while we are arguing. Out of frustration The Tigrean community decided to separately raise $50, 000 US and was delivered right away. Regardless of why and how nothing can justified our stupidity. I ALSO know a lot of poor nation around the world who have very little expectation from their gov't and they fight natural disasters in very economical and creative way. I am not saying the victims should be accountable to what happens to them. i'm just saying that i am tired of you guys crying from every corner and flex your weak muscle on the gov't, insted of doing what is necessary. I BET YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING HUMANITARIAN THING SINCE THE INCIDENT, BUT YOU FIND IT EASIER TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT THE SHORTCOME OF THE GOVERNMENT. TIME WELL WASTED.

If you get hit by a car i will try to take you to hospital first before i try to convict who hit you.

Got my point? Who needs the ASPRIN now.

ADIOS
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/06 @ 23:28

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msg Comment from: guuled [Visitor]
replay to fatum i dont want a dam to built either if they built a dam still the habash will take there sheet inside the river who will celan the river? if there is no flood I only want those habash who expolting the local somalian to leave there i want the prim minster to think this and take them this peopl to some where we somalian we love this city and we will bilt a dam the day we kick out the habash and etiopian long live diera somalian
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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Member]
PM Meles Zenawi,

thank you for visiting Dire Dawa and pledging to support the victims.
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 01:18

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msg Comment from: kolotemari [Visitor]
Mrs Konjo (Condjo...what does it mean anyways)...,
I just want to tell you that i'm impressed by your post. You constantly manage to bring fresh ideas and suggest solutions without being too critical of the Gov.
Anyways its sad that we constantly sustain casulaities by drought and Flooding which are ironic solutions to the problems. Hmmm...Its sad...I feel sorry for those families who lost lives. the recovery should be implemented asap, or else more people are going to face economic hardships.

At least the incident wasnot covered-up; and Meles himself has been there, I hope they will do something quick before it goes out of hand.
But you know whats, so sickening; its the fact that we can donate more than $2 Million if each of us contribute just $1.
Every time we have such a crisis, we are so tied up in this stupid politics bulshit; we forget what really matters.
What does it take to form an organization that can collect donations then take it directly to the affected people and supervise the whole rehab process? We are so intwined in greed and hate, we cant even unite for a common cause...thats just sad. Politics will always be politic; there has never been a gov in history that ruled a country anopposed, wars will always be fought; be it around tables or on the battel gorund, thats how things will always be.

The Ethiopian Community should form an organization, thats free from any political bias, that can funnel aid to Ethiopia,,,,There is no point in being proud being an Ethiopian, if we cant stand for our own good.
This is a punishment for our greed and hate to one another, we will always suffer because of it. untill we see the light and avoid our differences, drought, flood, and famine will keep on ruining Ethiopian lives.
Its so ironic, that we can make Ethiopia the richest country in Africa, inspite of who's ruling the country.
Peace
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 01:29

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msg Comment from: patriotic/አርበኛው [Visitor]
The situation in that country is getting worse and worse day to day, in fact our planets most part is facing similar disasters, however weather it is natural or caused by human, based on geographic locations and blood relation, man kind is straggling to survive and to save his relatives, let us see Israel..... for their hand made disaster the Jews community world wide is standing together to raise funds to those hit by the war disaster.

The same thing from the Arabic side, they are doing the best they could to survive and save others, but when it comes to my Ethiopian society.....the first response we give for all poverties and disaster is "POINTING TO OTHERS" let us see it different way at least when our people need us.

To the Dre Dawa people world wide:- please stand together in terms of declaring state of emergency, be the first people to respond The situation in that country is getting worst and worst day to day, in fact our planets most part is facing similar disasters, however weather it is natural or caused by human, based on geographic locations and blood relation, man kind is straggling to survive and to save his relatives, let us see Israel..... for their hand made disaster the Jews community world wide is standing together to raise funds to those hit by the war disaster.

The same thing from the Arabic side, they are doing the best they could to survive and save others, but when it comes to my Ethiopian society.....the first response we give for all poverties and disaster is "POINTING TO OTHERS" let us see it different way at least when our people need us.

To the Dre Dawa people world wide:- please stand together in terms of declaring state of emergency, be the first people to respond and invite all Ethiopians in fund raising for those got hit by natural disaster, at least for now what that people need it not our argument and blaming others for what happened, I am anti Government but I don't have time to waste blaming the TPLF for each single happenings.

Let us do some thing now let us not waste time talking and cursing each other, any organized group to raise funds for the disaster area can contact me through my e-mail for my contribution.

I am not capable to go further than that due to the location where I live, I am not caplet to organize the very small number of Ethiopians in Jacksonville Florida however I will try all my best.

Allah May help my people in Dre Dawa and every where else and invite all Ethiopians in fund raising for those got hit by natural disaster, at least for now what that people need it not our argument and blaming others for what happened, I am anti Government but I don't have time to waste blaming the TPLF for each single happenings.

Let us do some thing now let us not waste time talking and cursing each other, any organized group to raise funds for the disaster area can contact me through my e-mail for my contribution.

I am not capable to go further than that due to the location where I live, I am not caplet to organize the very small number of Ethiopians in Jacksonville Florida however I will try all my best.

Allah May help my people in Dre Dawa and every where else

here is my e-mail
jemaw@hotmail.com
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Fatuma,

I know for sure they are not Ogadenis Somalis. I grew up among them I know all the clan and sub-clan. Easily I can make the difference between a "Haber'AWal" and an "Issacq" a "Guederbussi" or a "Midgan" by the way the Midgan are the untouchable in their society, only because they are blacksmiths. No Somali wants to be called a Midgane, because it is considered as an insult. Believe me all they have to do is just to utter a few sentences and immediately I know what is their clan.
But what supprised me is when they speak fluently the amarigna in a matter of few years as such they were born in the country; and we are talking about people who really have problem pronoucing and not making the difference between p and b and also between f and v when they speak in European language. And this is not in a negative way. Somalis are one of the most intelligent people in the world. A French academy once said that the French Baccalaureat (last exam that all francophone have to pass to go to any university), the hardest exam in literature and mathematic go to Vietnam and Djibouti because the somalis are so eloquent in french language and also brilliant in math. I know for sure that this man was saying the truth.

As far as the F word is concerned, when you are born and raised in that part of Ethiopia, the F word pronounced in somali, oromo or even in amarigna you know it is part of the street lingo so it is not shocking but when you hear the same word in Addis you are taken by surprise.
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 03:43

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msg Comment from: Neutral [Visitor]
Wozeiro Kondjo: Big up for the analysis you gave on the situation concerning building dams and treating the water for further use. It must be the first time I have ever read such an educated analysis in this site that I couldn't resist commenting. Way to go!!
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msg Comment from: begashaw [Visitor]
May God be with Ethiopia and its people!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 06:33

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msg Comment from: assefa [Visitor]
I am amazed how meles dressed.
He seems as if he went for wedding
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msg Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]

Yoni,

How come the government of Ethiopia is procuring a huge arms from Czech and for this kind of project the government is lack of funds?

We will stay keep silent about this? Who will criticize the Ugly regime without the people like us?

We are trying to share what is the best solution in this problem. And problem will be avoided if the government give action of this.

Yoni, HOW MANY RAINY SEASONS PASSED SINCE THIS UGLY REGIME TOOK THE GOVERNMENT? Dont tell me that until now they are very busy for the feasibilty studies and plannings for that kind of project.

Why they can make planning for military purposes and for this kind of project they didnt? Did you know that they are procuring arms from other country and this is a lot of money? million of dollars? Dont tell me that they never make any planning of this activities.

Yoni, we are not too late while we are helping our people in the East and also the people trapped in the warzone in Lebanon we can voice out these things to this UGLY regime. I cannot stay out and become useless people of Ethiopia. We have to move and help those Ethiopians, opposite action done by this Ugly Regime that until now they are very very busy with Somalia adventurism.

"LET US EXTEND OUR HANDS ONCE AGAIN TO OUR DISTRESSED PEOPLE OF DIRE DAWA AS WELL AS THE OROMOS IN SOUTH, SIMULTANEOUSLY THE ETHIOPIANS IN LEBANON"
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 08:21

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msg Comment from: Zeabe [Visitor]
Satenaw,
I sew your Amharic writing;
You still put the "serezes" after each word?! I think you are one of the ones who had received education during the time before the Italians came to Ethiopia.
So, how was "ye'arbegnenet" zemen? were you in the field with Belay Zeleke or Ras Emuru? You are lucky that you have lived upto this time! I hope I will one day see you with Arbegnoch when the Adwa dil is celebrated.
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 08:24

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msg Comment from: Des the African [Visitor]
Dear Gulled at least this for time try to think like human being.You are as such arrogant and deaf and blind individual.I afaid to insult u those who lost their life are your mom,dad and fraters,but why u wish to respond evil with evil.I pray for Alha to give you good minds,you do not know your tonight fate,but you utter such arrogant words from yr mouth.Let me tell u one thin"human being is tantamaount ot what he has said".Other ethiopian,irrespective of race differnces help the vicitimized civilians Like H/g selassie.bye
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 08:53

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msg Comment from: Alula Yemesker [Visitor]
Ladies and Gentlemen,

As I read from your inputs, you have a lot of knowledge and understanding about this flooding. You wonderfully articulated what should have been done; when and what to do during to this particular problem.

What I do not comprehend is that if we have all this planning engineers and urban developing professionals how came we do not have a single white papers prepared by one of you guys? I think if one of you put your ideas on paper and present it to Ethiopian government, world body, and even to AA university, then we would have some fact to blame someone. We could say "I told you so".

The paper should indicate the problem and the solution. I must be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
If you ask me what I did, well I am Telecommunication engineer and I already helped ETC in its mobile telephone venture by going there and share my experience.
In the flooding case a white paper that suggests what to do in DD would help in providing an idea to the concerned party.
Mind you, even Addis Abeba University Engineering faculty could make this problem as its engineering students' project for their graduation.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

High Regards,
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msg Comment from: Awasa's ozz [Visitor]

My heart goes to those who lost their loved once!!

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msg Comment from: Awasa's Ozz [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo


Your comments sound as one of the most ignorant person on this blog.
I wonder how you could start a new day, knowing that your yesterday was wasted! Well that is your life any way.

Any body that lived for few months in eastern part of Ethiopia has greater and better knowledge than yours about the demography of the region. The city is inhabited by multi national and ethinic people, nothing other than that! It is very simple.

FYI this could be justifiable also to you and alike, there are no Somali’s in Dire Dawa, there are Issaa waraba, drifter Gadabursii, some Issaq with majority of (Qoti’s Gibrill Aboker), few vagrants Ogaden.
As every body knows Abasha’s were there before all of these. Any way this is not arguable.

I don’t know why you want to build the Dam in Dhangago? Did you got a chance to have a sky view of the region? I don’t think so. What you know about the area is very limit. Shut your mouth!

Very personal
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 09:35

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msg Comment from: Neftegna [Member]
Meles assessing the damage!! wondering how much money he can beg from his maters!!...This is an excellent opportunity for Meles & co to collect $$$ !! a guy who ordered the killing of 10 years old by the agazi snipers can not care about Dire-Dawa!! People's revolution is just like this flood !! God bless Dire-Dawa...we pray for the salvation of many souls!! what Meles can do for Dire-Dawa or ethiopia as whole is irelevant!!
in fact there is only 1 thing that Meles will do..it's to leave ethiopia...by force!! every day that passes things get worst....1 day soon !! "la revolucion" will catch on weyane!!
VIVA LA REVOLUCION EN SILENCIO!!
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 09:45

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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo,
Building a dam around Dire Dawa and its environs may mitigate the annual flood issues; however, building dams around high population centers in areas that are prone to seismic activities is an accident waiting to happen. Dams fail as a result of poor foundation conditions, bad construction practices or natural disasters such as high rain fall events & overtopping (one in a thousand year rainfall event) or earthquakes. When dams fail they pretty much wipe out everything on their way worse than flush floods (e.g. Stava dam failure in Italy).
I should also point out that the potential of hydro dams for most Ethiopian rivers are high up in the mountains close to the main part of the watershed and not at the lower reaches of the rivers. Hydro dams also required at least about 20 m or more in head drop (elevation differential) and certain morphology to successfully harness the potential energy of the fast flowing water.
In my opinion, flood gates which divert higher than normal flows around the city through a system of diversion channels are more safer and cost effective flood control measures.
PS:
You should ask Ra'Oeil: about his G-string bikini story, he is one of a kind.
You should also see Yoni’s comments. They make a lot of sense to me.


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msg Comment from: Sodo [Visitor]
It is a continuatin, a neglet of our land by hodams when they aligned themselves with weyanes.It is also disgusting for Nazret . com to show the phony Tota and call him the Prime Minister.
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msg Comment from: yoni [Member]
Seleme,
Your oint well taken but you still have not tried to understand where my frustration come from.

Like I said before you are still flexing your weak muscle on the gov't. I am not an expert on the THIRD WORLD POLITICS, i can only see what makes sense to me and doesn't. You do not make sense to me when you have already concluded the gov't is a brutal regime and still expect it to do humanitarian work. got my point???
You sound like you want a regime to change, you are not sincerly talking about how we can help this people right now. you are in the wrong battle field. I myself pitching my hard earned $$ to humanitarian orgaizations, and i have four kids i sponsored. it may seem too little but that is what i can do with my capabilities at this point.

ps, please check out the proposal posted above by a gentleman name Allula, he has a good point. Lets see putting your idea on paper and put it to action. You are spending too much time being A CYBER WARRIOR.

ADIOS
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil [Visitor]
Lekim, I was starting to wonder if you were still alive. I had no idea you were still loking for a G-string bikini. You might want to check at the following site: http://www.aminarts.com/ Your boss doesn't seem to have any problem finding one, LOL.

Welcome back,

Ra'Oeil

PS: Although it might be a modest one, I would also like to make a contribution to any relief for DD. Those genuine NGOs can contact me at: Ra_Oeil@yahoo.com
Thanks
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 12:48

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msg Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
Hi Sodo,

Are you born just to curse? Oh God! what unfortunate guy you are!
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msg Comment from: damtow [Visitor]
It is a very sad news for all ethiopian loving people, may god save thier soul. I am very disturbed to see some of you use this problem for a political games.I do not belive that this hate momgorer are ethiopians but our enemyies attempting to mislead us as ever there by create divisions amonges very concern ethiopian. My advise is please do not waste your time ethiopians are very well aware of you evil minded poeple pretending be concerned but working for separaties groups.If you can please do what you can to help the poeple suffering at this moment; if not stop telling us what the govenment is not doing.Tell us what you can do or you have done. Do not forget we know what the government is doing.
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/06 @ 14:03

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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
“…What I do not comprehend is that if we have all this planning engineers and urban developing professionals how came we do not have a single white papers prepared by one of you guys?..”……Alula Yemesker


The Dire Dawa river is a seasonal/dry river. It happens between the months of June and September whenever there is heavy rainfall in the high lands (Dega). I think it is misnomer to call it a river since that would indicate a continuous day in day out flow at least for a period. What we got in Dire Dawa is a flood plain that has been worsening in recent years because of all the reasons that Wozeiro Condjo stated and some more. In earlier years, the flood was more of a nuisance than a catastrophe. It surely cut the city in half stopping the flow of people and traffic for a couple of hours (usually 2-4 hrs max).

The only levy system that exists in the city today was built by the Italians sixty some years ago. It starts on the west side to protect Gende Gara, Kefira, Dechatu, Megala and Konel Sefer and then jumps to the east side starting at the palace to protect the palace, Kezira, and Lumberwan. The location and construction of the levy system reflects the population distribution of the 1940s Dire Dawa.

It is really difficult to pin the blame of the recent year catastrophes on a single government. Both the Dergue and EPRDF have been criminally negligent of the city’s infrastructure and development. The EPRDF, in addition to doubling the cities population overnight as stated by Wozeiro Condjo has also an axe to grind against Dire Dawa as I have mentioned in my earlier postings during the bomb blasts two weeks ago. The population explosion has exacerbated the flood, because now people are building their shops and shacks right in the middle of the river bed (Ashewa), thus creating an artificial diverting channels that is increasingly becoming deadly to the residents of Addis Ketema, Coca Cola, Afeteisa etc.

Dire Dawa is on TPLF’s choke hold and is dying a slow death. The only addition TPLF has made to the city is two ‘Tigrai Development Association’ offices, one in Megala and the other one in Kezira. Now you could ask what the f*** is a Tigrai Development Association office doing thousands of miles away from the nearest border of Tigrai? I have been told that every year on Yekatit 11(Lekatit 11?), this offices organize a massive gala and invite individuals that TPLF thinks have money to share for the joy of building greater Tigrai. I have been told that this is one invitation that you better not refuse on pain of repossession of your shop or other property. I always wonder how many Harrargue Development Association offices are there in Mekele or Adwa.

I see our enlightened leader has visited Dire Dawa lamenting about lost brothers and sisters. I am sure this is another golden opportunity to fleece the donor community, a good reason to request additional millions in the name of rebuilding the city and rehabilitating the devastated communities and pocket some changes.

Alula Yemesker was asking about concerned Urban Developers and white papers. I think he was trying to be cute, unfortunate timing and a bad topic to be cute about. As far as we know TPLF is not about developing and building Ethiopia, it’s about destroying and looting it. We have yet to see TPLF’s response to Tadesse Haile Selassie’s proposal/study on ‘Eradicating Hunger from Ethiopia’ that was made public in September 2002 at the Symposium of Ethiopian Civil Engineers Association in Addis Ababa. For those of you who don’t know who Tadesse is, he is the cofounder of BERTA Construction (he is the TA in BER’TA’).

Tadesse has been practicing engineering close to 50 years in Ethiopia and has been involved in all the major public projects in the country. He knows the land and topography as well as all our rivers and watersheds like the palm of his hand. He spent a considerable amount of time and his own resources to do the preliminary study and put together these proposals. Meles hasn’t even sneezed about the proposal so far and we know he was furnished with the first copy of the detailed proposal (about 70 pages) right after the seminar.

The hope at the time was that since Meles doesn’t like new ideas coming from anyone else except him, he will sit on it for a year or so and will present one of the proposals to the donor community on his own. Apparently people were wrong by a mile and hopefully one of the proposals will be a reality once Woyanie is out of the picture and there is an Ethiopian Government in Ethiopia. Here is a
link to the short synosis on Tadesse Haile Selassie’s Proposal



As far as Dire Dawa is concerned, once again TPLF is the main stumbling block. All we need is a couple of DD-ians to form an organization to tap into national and international resources to commission a study on ‘Rehabilitation of Dire Dawa’ involving economic development for the region as well as disaster prevention that entails studies of levies, catch basins and diverting channels. At the end of the day, it all boils down to good governance and we can’t have that with looters at the helm of our government.

(I appologize for the length of this post, just couldn't help it I guess.)


Cheers,

-Gundan
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msg Comment from: Betru [Visitor]
Weyane has lost one brigader general and one colenel along with 19 soldiers to Shabya.Aiga website(http://www.aigaforum.com/)has taken a pre-emptive strike on the general before the news spreads in different Ethiopian and Shabiyan news outlets. This dying regime couldn't ever protect our defence forces from disintegration.
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msg Comment from: selememaster [Visitor]
It is so sad that this site is bised . How comes my openion is not posted. I think i have the right to comment what ever i want (appropriately). I hope yoy will post this.
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Gundan, A while back I read the paper by Tadesse Haile Selassie that you are referring to. Even though the paper provides some engineering solutions, the paper doesn’t detail the technical basis for the proposed solutions, nor does he considers a proper environmental impact assessment which is the building block of any diversion or retention schemes. What are the impacts on downstream communities, faunas and floras, farming, soil erosion, channel morphology etc? I respect and value Ato Haile Selassie’s experience and expertise but solid engineering solutions have a scientific basis that have to be spelled out clearly before good ideas can fly. Can you please elaborate on your concept of “Ethiopian Government in Ethiopia”? What do you think we have now? Please don’t regurgitate your monolithic trash values again.
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msg Comment from: ambaye [Visitor]
hey people please let's leave politics a side and let help our people. please please let feel the pain our people are going through.
Lets start doing some thing before it's too late.
GOD bless our people & our country.
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Gundan,

While I was reading your posting of 08/08/06 @ 14:09, I was wondering if this Gundan is not a native or a longtime resident of Dire-Dawa; I was mesmerize by the fact you are so familiar with the name of all the neighborhoods of DD.
Particularly Konel Sefer brought back so much memories. Just at the edge of the dry river bed there was a big thorn tree (the kind of tree we see on those glossy travel magazine where they show a lone tree in the middle of savanah) and destitutes people used to sleep under this huge thorn tree.

The tree was situated diagonally on the opposite side from the Palace. As a child, I used to wonder can Haile see these poor people from his terrace?? Does he ever care if these people are swept by the "Gor FF" in the middle of the night??.

Every years this flash flood used to kill so many poor people but it was kept subrosa. No one can utter a word against the Haile regime.

In the morning we could see the officials from Mezegaza Beth asking those who survived "Is this one christian or muslim?" in order to take the dead body to the proper cemetery

Coming back to you, Gundan, when I was reading the first sentence of the 4th paragraph, I said to myself. How true and how painful it is.
Then when I read the last sentence on your 8th paragraph which I don't even want to rewrite it here again. It is so repulsive.

I start to wonder what the word "Ethiopian" conjure in the mind of these amharas people.
Is Ethiopian means only amharas for you guys???

It does not matter what ethnic group is at the helms of the country, power is so addictive and
sooner or later the leader become riddled with authoritarism. The reason I mentioned that tree is to show you no matter who is the leader they always end up by becoming heartless piece of shit.
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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
“…..What are the impacts on downstream communities…..”…..lekim

Tadesse presented these proposals so that people who are experts in the field could give their critiques and opinions and we as a nation could begin the big debate that is ‘How to eliminate Hunger from Ethiopia’. This was just his solo effort to show, from the technical aspect at least, it was feasible to eradicate hunger from Ethiopia using engineering solutions. You are right; it wasn’t a detailed technical study and did not address all the issues that you mentioned and some that you didn’t. This was just a bird’s eye view of a technical concept from 30000 feet above ground. The document despite its short comings was the first of a kind in trying to address the perennial food shortage in Ethiopia.

From what I heard, TPLF was nonplused with the proposal, not because of its technical shortcomings but because of the timing. Meles and his henchmen were racking their brains as to why Tadesse did not propose these solutions say 20 years, 100 years ago, why now? Why on our watch?

The thing is lekim, for Meles; disease, poverty and hunger are geese that lay the golden eggs. These are the main reason why he is able to get hundreds of millions of aid money from the so called donor community; to feed the starving Ethiopians. This is how top level TPLF officials are able to purchase their mansions, villas, haciendas and dachas at the hottest real-estate spots in the world. According to Meles, eradicate hunger from Ethiopia and you would be burning down the tree with the dollar leaves. It is that simple.

You asked me to elaborate on the concept of ‘an Ethiopian Government in Ethiopia’, sure why not?

When you say, “What are the impacts on down stream communities?”, that is the TPLF code word for Egypt and Sudan right? I am sure you are referring to Tadesse’s ‘Proposal III’, the one that deals with a partial use of Nile for irrigation and power generation?

You see, it is these kinds of Woyanie preoccupation with the welfare of our neighbors and not the welfare of Ethiopians that leads us to believe that TPLF is a non Ethiopian entity. Meles was so worried about the welfare of Eritreans, during the 91 London negotiations even the entreaties of non-Ethiopians like Herman Cohen not to land lock Ethiopia, fell on deaf ears. For the last 15 years Meles has been working day and night to bring peace and harmony between the different warring factions in Somalia. Now that has failed, he is again in Baidoa, guns blazing, because of the poor Somalis not being able to watch soccer games on their TV because of the Islamists.

We all know that Egypt's cropland is already 100% irrigated, which makes that country totally dependent on the Nile. It is a well documented fact that over 2 meters of water evaporate from the surface of Lake Nasser every year. This is because of its location in the middle of the desert, which was constructed against the advice of the experts. If this dam was located say in Ethiopia, there won’t be any loss of water and we could have the benefit of sharing the hydro power with Egypt. Right now all we get from Nile is soil erosion and the pride of ownership which doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in economic terms. It is also common knowledge that Egypt has a contingency air strike plan, should Ethiopia try to utilize the Nile in any way or form that could reduce its flow. It is also a documented fact that Ethiopia and Sudan could achieve high levels of food production if they chose to irrigate as much land as possible.

Granted, we are too weak at this time to challenge Egypt on the fair utilization of the Nile, but that doesn’t mean we can’t have a feasibility study going on and I don’t understand why the Woyanie government is getting skittish about it.

Cheers,

-Gundan
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msg Comment from: Waryaa [Visitor]
Blaming the government isn't the issue here. As poor Horn Africans we have never depended on our goverments. It is always the other way round.

Visiting the city earlier this year a Jijigan who was walking with me around the city couldn't fail noticing the proximity of some shoddy buildings to the river, some litterally on the edge of the river.

The guy was petrified. I told him that these were poor people. But he didn't accept, shaking his head he utterd: Poor people want to live, these poeple are suicidal or may be they don't understand the nature of this land. According to him the river was work in progress and all those on the edges will soon find themselves inside it.

There is a somali proverb advicing people against three things:

1- Marrying girls beyond their sell-by date (-:
2- weak speaches
3- Settling in a dry river bed.

The government have built some walls around the river but the somalis I have talked to think it as a waste of money.

Many of them were ill-educated and didn't understand the modern methods of taming the nature. Nevertheless, they have lived in this dry lowlands for thousands of years and their respect for this dry river is not from nothing.

In the wetter highlands one can predict how things will be from how they are now. In the dry lowlands things (including people( -: ) are never what they seem to be.

The solusion is check where the water have reached this year and never build on or live in that area.

Then, you will never need the useless government. Safe better than sorry.
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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
Wozeiro Condjo:

Yes, I am a native of DD. I don’t think Ethiopia consists of only Amaras because I am not one my self, but I am very much an Ethiopian, so there you have it. The notion that Ethiopians hate TPLF because of their ethnicity is totally and completely wrong. We hate TPLF because of the TPLFey things they do like inciting ethnic hatred, religious hatred, looting, telling lies and their aid/poverty-based growth and development policies. I also hate them extra because of what they are doing to Dire Dawa.


Cheers,

-Gundan
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msg Comment from: Gebena22 [Visitor]
This topic, although unfortunate, was the most eye opening for me. We have so many smart brothers and sisters. All they need to do is set aside politics and help our countrymen and women in need. I used to hate Melese and what he stood for. When you really think about it, as Wozeiro Condjo said "It does not matter what ethnic group is at the helms of the country, power is so addictive and
sooner or later the leader become riddled with authoritarism." That is so true. If tomorrow Oromos gains power, they will most likely kill a bunch of us to prove they are strong. Once they show us that, they will start doing what Melese is doing, rob the country blind. So people, forget about who is in power and help your family. Look at China. Despite their leaders, the people are building their country. At the end, when the killers and abusers leave China or hanged, the country will still be the next superpower. The choice for the future of Ethiopia is within us.
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
gundan,

Do you mind if I can ask you these 3 questions??

a. which area of DD were you raised? please don't tell me Kazira or Megala because they are vast area. If you can be more specific (God I am demanding) and where did you get your elementary and secondary education?

b. Are you Haile's generation (those described as "ailing generation") by someone on this forum? or Mengue generation?

c. How do you like my description of DD as it was in early 1974 and do you have any recollection of that thorn tree?

Three years ago, when I last went to DD (Nowadays, when I go to Harrar and Ogaden 3 or 4 times in a year, I go by car from addis directly to Harrar, just turn right after Gabriel Mengued. Because Dire Dawa gives me so much heartache.) I took the plane and 99.9% of the travelers and the hostess in the plane, were Tigrays and I was saying to myself, what the F..k is this? then at Ras Hotel and everywhere else all you can hear or see is just Tigray people and Somalis from Somalia. Then deep inside knowing that it was my last trip to this once beautiful city, I took a taxi and I asked him to drive me through DD and deep inside myself as we were driving, I said my last goodbye to that city I have loved so much. Now it is populated by total strangers. That beautiful european city I have described earlier had totally vanished and a dirty, dusty, unruly city took over. It is so heartbreaking. But I don't blame neither the Meles or the Dergue administration. I came to term and said nothing stay the same. We are all energy and we are constantly changing.
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msg Comment from: Awasa's ozz [Visitor]
Gundan
You know the city a lot better than weizro condjo and your research is reasonable.
As the eminent of the city describe, Dachatu River used to be flooded for most part of the year, back in history.
From my understanding the settlement in and around Dire Dawa was significantly changed during the economical booming of Governor Alfred Shafi’s era. New settlers ignore the rift of flood-river basin and constructed new homes, up far from new Gurage town to Allay Bade’ along the river all the way past the cemetery.
People repeatedly ignore flash flooding and over the past 30 years 1000s of lives were lost during the rainy season.
Moving settlements out of the river and building more Levees are better solution.
I feel sorry for the innocent lives lost!!

ViVa EPRDF
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msg Comment from: Joker (*_*) [Visitor]
talking doesnt help.
send money back home and i dont mean to melese but a trust worthy org and help the ppl. for all i care u can dream on making a blue print on making dums or watever it is your thinkging.Leave that in la la land and come back to reality.

GOD bless ethiopia
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msg Comment from: Sodo [Visitor]
People! Let us not stray to minor and body,body conversations with WEYNAES.lET US REMIND THEM THAT they are holding the elected leaders of Ethiopia and her people as hostages.no let up in the debate about the crimes they have committed against us.
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
Sodo

You are absolutely right! I totally agree with your assertion !

Ethiopians, wake-up, the Tigre criminals are still holding unlawfully the 1st democratically elected leaders of Ethiopia.

[Woyane] is always lurking around to slow us from our strides.

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msg Comment from: Megala [Visitor]

DEAR ALL!

I am Grateful to all your ideas.

I think now the time is asking for ACTION.

10,000 people need help!
10,000 people without shelter in this rainy season.........

Let's follow the way of HILE G/SILASSIE, KENENISSA, PM.MELES and others.....

I contacted many eyewitnesses and residents of DIRE.One cannot imagine the aftermath of this ever distructive flooding.It is so HORRIBLE.

Nazreth.com could you please post some information about how to help If it's not in contrary with your terms & condition!!!

DIRE is Waiting us!
Let's help Dire's KIND and SOCIABLE people.

Many thanks for your Patience!

Almighty God please help
people of that beloved city!
bless them!
cherish them!

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Awasa's ozz,

Let us clear few things. Alfred Shafi had never been the Governor of Harargue, he was just the mayor of DD.

And during his administration a bunch of Guragues came and suck the city to the max. These guragues were exploiting the city and took all their profit and invested it in Addis or wherever they come from. They have never done anything for the city of DD, the city that made them very rich.

By your nickname on this forum, I see you belong to this looter ethnic group.

That gurague mayor Alfred Shafi expelled from DD those Yemenis merchants who have been in DD for several generations and then facilitate for his gurague people to take over all the businesses of these arabs. But my friend, this universe is constantly changing, now thanks to the Tigrays and somalis who are pushing the guraguys aways and taking over the business of the gurague both in DD and Addis.

By the way, it is called Karma, the law of the Universe. Whatever you do to others will always come back to you in 10 folds.
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msg Comment from: DELLAW [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo,

Look I am not Gurage, but it looks like you have something against them. I just don’t like the way you describe them. They are very hard working people. Leave them alone. I really admire them. I am sure you have done nothing in Ethiopia. I am also sure you are one of those who just complain about every thing. We can’t do nothing, there is nothing for us so forth and so on. But they came and demolished your miserable dreams.

I just can’t stand this character of Ethiopians. We just dislike when someone is smarter, richer, stronger and better then us. Why don’t you just give them credit for their hard work. And after all does it matter if the business are owed by Gurage, Tigra or what ever. I mean aren’t we all Ethiopians? And who gave you the right to decide who is good and who is not good for Ethiopia. Look, just admit it they are very hard workers. And the rest of us including me are just lazy. I really admire them. Coming with nothing and leaving with everything. Please don’t make one over the other as if we choose who we are when we are born. We just all talk too much, at least they do less of that and work more.


Dellaw
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Gundan,

Let me say that you have the potential to look beyond your tribal blindfold and actually find the truth for yourself. You and your buddies are in a perpetual state of denial of very simple and basic facts. You constantly blame TPLF/EPRDF for “giving away Eritrea” and therefore in your views the current government must be a mercenary government. Eritrea or any other land for that matter belongs to its indigenous inhabitants who have a god given right to determine their fate. Your tribal regimes murdered millions of innocent civilians for centuries and alienated not only Eritreans but many proud Ethiopians. If you dig deeper into the tribal closet, you will find out that the current government has nothing to do with the separation of Eritrea. You and I know that the current boundaries between Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Djibouti and Sudan are based on treaties signed between your tribal emperor Menelik and the Italians, British and the French.
Let us call a spade and stop resorting on futile logic to serve our political agenda.

With respect to the flood mitigation plans for the city of Dire Dawa, I personally like engineer Tadesse’s technical concept. However, as the saying goes the “devil is in the technical details”
Projects of that magnitude require concrete engineering details including EIA (Environmental impact assessment) to formulate a detailed project execution plan (PEP), project scope, schedule and budget. In three years you can’t even finish the scoping study let alone finishing the project on schedule and budget. Human history is replete with examples of massive environmental disasters as a result of ill conceived large scale diversion of entire watershed. The marshlands of Iraq, Egypt, Sudan and the agricultural deforestation of the Amazon River basins are some of the modern day examples of large scale disasters.
Let us not mix engineering solutions with political BS and I hope engineering Tadesse sticks to the ethical principles of a practicing engineers and does follow Grandpa Hailu Shawel’s path.

By the way, the downstream communities that I care about are Ethiopian citizens.



Wozeiro Condjo

“The travelers and the hostess in the plane, were Tigrays and I was saying to myself, what the F..k is this?”

I hope that the stellar queen of the south appreciates the diversity of her majestic country.

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msg Comment from: Awasa's Ozz [Visitor]
Weizro Condjo

You don’t get it, do you?
What is called in the western country “state” governor, for some reason is named “Endrase “’
Western ranks “city” mayor, but in Ethiopia is called “Hager Gaggi”
The one Mayor or similar name is the “Kantiba” of the Capital city. Any way others who have better idea about titles can chip in.
However as your nickname indicates on this blog, I think you are from Ganda TushTush!!!
You do not belong here!! Especially on this Blog.

ViVa EPRDF
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Lekim,
Let me answer to the question you asked me: "I hope that the stellar queen of the south appreciates the diversity of her majestic country"

My friend you are totally wrong if you assume that I am not an open mind person. I am extremely tolerant and fight for diversity. BUT there is a limit in everything.

1. When you see the real inhabitants of the city of DD dispersed all over the world - in Australia, Minnesota, South Africa, California, Tennessee, UK, The Netherlands and various Arab countries. And leaving the city or the province of their birth for good, then you start to wonder what is the problem.

I am talking about extremely entrepeuners and well educated people who refuse to come back to DD and the province of Harrargue.
Their greivance my friend is - "I cannot recognize DD any more. The old folks are dead and all the people you see are the newcomers. It does not feel like DD anymore. So, what is the purpose for me to return."
Lekim, I heard this complain in South Africa, Australia, the Emirates, in Europe and US.

You don't see any indegeneous people of Harrargue opening a business in the province of Tigray because you make it impossible for them but Tigrays can come and open a business in Harrargue in a matter of a week; needless to mention that most if not all the officials in government are people of Tigrays. - Nepotism to the max.

2. Meles totally demoralized the local somalis (The Issas) by destroying their contraband business in order for him and his croonies to enter all kind of merchandise through Kambolcha and Gahdaburr. He did not want to have a competition with the Issas.

The muslims population in general have tendency to enjoy a daily life, the religion dictates them that "Tomorrow is in the hands of Allah" therefore the Kotus lived a day to day life, never learning to save. In other word, they never saved enough to buy properties and now the new generation who could not get out of the country cannot even start a small business to take care of themselves and their families because without a property as a collateral no financial institution will let you borrow money to start a business. So, these Kotus (the Oromos of Harargue) spend their day dozing off with Khat.
A Tigray can come get all the necessary fund to open a business because his cousins who work for the banks know all the loophole.

Let me tell you something else about the city of DD. It was the only city in the whole Ethiopia, beside Asmara, to have the City Hall (Mezegaza) coming every single day and collect your trash. you don't see trash piling up in the middle of the city. It was such a clean city. But now who cares, the new inhabitants are there just to make money and leave with their new found wealth and show it off in Addis. Harrargue especially DD is just their stepping stones to their way to wealthy lives.
3. A vibrant city became the trash bin of all these new comers.
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo, I do know that you are far from being a narrow minded tribal bigot. I hear the similar complaints from my close friends too but blanket judgments based on perceptions or realities are an insult to the collective human conscience. It is inevitable that there will be corrupt people in any given system but that shouldn’t discourage others from perusing their economic wellbeing and dreams. Where I come from, you can find many people who could tell you horror stories of years of economic deprivation and an outright murderous rampage that destroyed everything they owned. My dear friend, no one that I know despaired, or used the old tribal system as an excuse to get stoned on “mess or swa” ( we don’t grow Khat) and give-up on their god given rights.
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msg Comment from: yoni [Member]
This comment stage will close and move to another subject without all you guys contributing anything to the VICTIMS. Like usual 'AGEREA ETHIOPIA, AGEREA ETHIOPIA..." but NO ACTION AT ALL. Not even constructive idea.

Isn't Ethiopia your Ethiopia until you see someone you like govern her?? VERY PATHETIC. YOU ARE A CURSE TO MOTHER ETHIOPIA.

ADIOS
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil [Visitor]
yoni: you can re-circulate your loot through the usual back-door:

"Support flood victims

The Disaster Prevention and Preparedness Agency is raising fund for the victims of the recent floods in Diredawa town. We therefore urge you to donate to the Finfine Branch of Commercial Bank of Ethiopia, Account number:0171806 845300.

የድጋፍ ጥሪ በጎርፍ ለተጎዱ

በድሬዳዋ ከተማ በደረሰው ድንገተኛ የጎርፍ አደጋ የተጎዱ ወገኖችን መርዳት የምትፈልጉ በኢንባ ሒ/ቁ 0171806845300 ገቢ ማድረግ ትችላላችሁ።"

As for the rest of us who don't trust this agency, or any governmental agency for that matter until real democracy and transparency is achieved, we will need to do it through a local genuine NGO.

Anybody with such info?

Ra'Oeil

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msg Comment from: Fatuma [Visitor]
Ra'Oeil,


Thanks for the info for disaster relief.

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