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01/15/06

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African Rebels Take Their Battles Online

Internet Extends Political Debate

By Emily Wax
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, January 14, 2006; Page A16

NAIROBI -- The leaders of the main rebel movement in Sudan's Darfur region were once brothers in arms. But last year, the two powerful men had a falling out, and each proclaimed he was the rightful president of the Sudanese Liberation Army. Things got ugly.

During several outbursts of political violence, especially in the capital, Addis Ababa, after the disputed May election, no news organization was able to report on events as fast as online instant messages and posted diaries.

On Nazret.com, a call went out for bloggers "to blog on events unfolding in Ethiopia." The blog site, "Live from Addis Ababa Ethiopia," had some of the most vivid reporting of the November unrest, in which an estimated 40 people were killed when police fired live bullets into protests.

"I was shopping with a friend when all of a sudden I heard people screaming and running around me. There were bullets flying past us," wrote a young woman who called herself Mimi. Washington Post 01/14/2006

During protests on June 9, there were minute-by-minute eyewitness reports from the blog on Meskel Square.com. One blogger wrote:

"Just for the record, I saw 11 bodies at the Black Lion and Zawditu hospitals, all with gun shot wounds, some to the head. As you know, the official count at the moment is 22 dead."

During that time, nearly every independent Ethiopian journalist was hauled off to jail.

"On the Internet, they certainly are far away enough or invisible enough to not feel the burn. The Net has played a huge role," said Tamrat G. Giorgis during a recent interview in Addis Ababa. Fortune, the independent newspaper he publishes, is the only one in Ethiopia that has not been shut down. Washington Post 01/14/2006

In Ethiopia, Prime Minister Meles Zenawi recently said in an interview in the capital that some of the country's newspapers and blogs were "yellow journalism of the worst kind. In some cases we have evidence that they were trying to overthrow the government."


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msg Comment from: HAYAL [Visitor]
All independant media have been closed down and since then the Internet has been our only source of any credible info. We alson have the VOA, Eritrean Radio, Tensae Radio and Voice of Ethiopian People but they are one hour broadcasts. So for instant news I go regularly ot my favourite Internet cafes.
About Meles and yellow journalism, he just blurts out his foul adjectives I remember he used to call the independent press here as "gutter journalism".
That's where his murderous party is heading now. Stupid dictator, go pack your bags, take a one way ticket to PyongYang...There, I feel relief...Come and beat me up, imprison me, accuse me of treason and genocide.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 04:58

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msg Comment from: HAYAL [Visitor]
If we hadn't Internet, I think I would have gone mad. It's crucial for our struggle. Of course, Mr.Good Governance, New African Democrat, Meles did all he could to restrict access in Ethiopia, only a few thousand compared to hundred thousands in Kenya for example, also there no SMS. No private TV, Radio, and to think that all these long 14 years the International community praised him, now they know, he's a ruthless dictator not better than the one he ousted.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 05:06

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msg Comment from: Abera demeksa [Visitor]

The so-called "journalists" are nothing but propagandists for the long-vanquished Derge and its grandchild, CUD.

We know the so-called "opposition" are using titles of "journalist" and "human rights official" to hide behind, in order to cover up their criminal activities . We are not impressed, or fooled.

The EPRDF and Ethiopia's democracy are here to stay. Neftegnas and their boochillas are going to have to find real jobs instead of wasting their,apparently not-so-precious, time on teternal bozenenet and futile demonstrations in Washington D.C. and Merkato.

Real Ethiopians are busy building the country while Neftegnas are busy trying to tear it down-they will not succeed.


PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 05:45

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msg Comment from: Michael [Visitor]
Tagay Abera Demeksa,
Your liberal use of the quotation mark is really remarkable: "journalists", "opposition", "human rights official". For you everything and everybody is suspect. You seem to be totally confused. Anybody opposing a government is called opposition in any country. In EPRDF's Ethiopia even the staus of "opposition" to those who see themselves as opponents of this "government" is not permitted. You see, I am also using the quotation mark. Because the group of thugs you call a government is in fact a crime syndicate. You are really going over top when you mention EPRDF and Ethiopian Democracy in one breath. In fact, the two are irreconcilable. The EPRDF is a band of armed robbers organized in a "Mega" scale. The two are in fact not only irreconcilable but the existence of one precludes the existence of the other. The problem with you is that, being a supporter of a fascist organisation you are unknowingly adopting the modus operandi from Adolf Hitler, i.e.
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 07:15

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msg Comment from: tagay [Visitor]
our enemy is woyane and his henchmens not tigray people like melese said tigray are victims by woyane regime fought for eritrean independence woyane is eritrean nationals take bereket,yemane,melese,etc treason charges should be brought to this gangs fooling euopeans
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 08:35

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msg Comment from: tagay [Visitor]
dear respected ethiopians brothers and sisters fathers and mothers we need peace and development the last 14 years woyane distroyed our country now there is nofreedom if there id no freedom we are in slaver and we have to get our freedom as an ethiopia so we have to unite demonstration fund raising helping each others etc this is the first step we have to be organized dont waste your time with woyane argument it is over we have to pressure internationa community to stop funneli to the ethiopiab prime minister who is terrorizing his nation we have to o we continuosly contribute money support media ethiopians support our people back home wedont know freedom will not come over night if u need ur freedom yu have to buy it leadership is important yesdet mengist makuakuam yasfelgal
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 08:53

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msg Comment from: Teshome [Visitor]
Ruling government, (EPRDF), brought a change to Ethiopia. Internet service was introduced by Meles’s time. Free journalist were popped in Ethiopia first time during Meles’s time too. Just enjoy the freedom of all kinds and don’t ignore what was achieved.

Haileselassie OR Mengistu for that matter, DID not bring the freedom what we are enjoying as I write.

It doesn’t matter what was being said on line about Ethiopia. The fact is that CUDs were member of Derg regime. Period.

CUD started violence first.

Sick and tired of seeing Muhamed's trash comments again.

He is not going to bring and positive changes or peace in Ethiopia as he always promotes criminal activities to peaceful Ethiopia.

None of his comments ever ended with peaceful comments. Either he wants to kill or start war.

What kind of peace seeking Ethiopian is he?

He will not be liked by his own children for his negative view for peace in Ethiopia.

Muhamed should be banned from posting his rash.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 11:33

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
To all woyanes and their cadres,

your papa melese is a very good lier as well as not peace loving. He might full the west with his lies, but not the Ethiopian people. We Ethiopians are naturally peace loving people. You as well following your pap are blindes as he is. We all have said it and have seen it , there is no peace in Ethiopia. Go ahead and tell your lies to the west not to Ethiopians!

P.S. You and your papa melese are pathetic.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 14:11

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msg Comment from: Kidist ashagre [Visitor]
It is good to have website to have our message passed to readers.

At the same time websites promote both good and bad messages to readers.

Readers always should read and believe in the massage that promotes peace to Ethiopia NOT violence and instability to peaceful Ethiopia.

Let's take example of Ethiopians from South, especially from Gamo Goffa region, (Arba Minch), are peaceful and the region is reach with natural resounces.

Talk about Arba Minch or Gamo Goffa and bring your message what you know about this region.

Thank you
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 15:39

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]

The spilled and trickling blood of the young and innocent children of Ethiopia,who were murdered by melese and his TPLF/EPRDF paid cadres is screaming to every Ethiopians. We will never forget theme. The cry of the mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers is the agony of Ethiopia. We will never forget this.We will remember and We shall over come by any means necessary!

PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 19:25

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msg Comment from: mammo killu [Visitor]

I really enjoyed reading this article. It clearly states that dictators can't silence the scream of their victims. Thank God for the innovation and technology, we will be heard.

Freedom of speech finds a way. Communists had done everything to silence the public, but resistance relied on the word of mouth. That helped the tyranny to crash down. The modern day dictators like Meles are shutting down free press and accusing journalists of genocide. Then we got the internet. That will bring them down. Release the elected leaders and free press journalists.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 20:33

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msg Comment from: gion [Visitor]
i am proud of meles. he is the man. you know that. so please don't act stupid. because you will lose.

have a nice dream.
PermalinkPermalink 01/15/06 @ 21:00

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msg Comment from: DAN [Visitor]
please read the following differences between CUD and eprdf. 1 the eprdf leaders spent a good part of their life fighting the dictatorial MENGISTU regime while the majority of the CUD leaders were serving the regime. 2 the EPRDF is composed of AMHARA, TIGRE,OROMO and SOUTHERN NATIONALITIES the CUD is an exclucive organization composed of extreme AMHARA elites who claim their root to JANHOY or ATSE HAILE SELASSIE.3
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 03:14

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msg Comment from: HAYAL [Visitor]
I'm tired of this incessant reference of the CUD as being Amharas only,lately labelled by the insult factory ie IHadig as "extremist Amhara". Even if that were the case ie Amharas only,what they represent and fight for are universal values of democracy and human rights,so please look further than someone's ethnic background.
Do Westerners give a damn if we are Oromo, Amhara, Gurage or any tribe from Ethiopia? No,they just see a bunch of blacks who always put that particular tribe on top even when they are all beggars for money, food ,arms and what have you.
Leave Muhammed alone,who are you to accuse him of preaching violence and ethnic prejudice that's your speciality...
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 05:32

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msg Comment from: Damota [Visitor]
Muhamed read below what you said above.

Yes I am witnessing the suffering of Millions and millions of Ethiopians in the hands of Tigriyans and Eriterians. Because of what I have witnessed, I am ashamed to be an Ethiopian and living under such rule, criminal and oppressive regime is difficult. I am ready to kick out Meles and the Woyanes
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 11:27

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msg Comment from: Damota [Visitor]
To: Belay Tesema

You keep dreaming about your and Muhamed's idea.

Kidist was right. The truth ids that you just wanted power by force that was already dead end and no way of comin back.

You and CUD still going but you and CUD don't know where you are going.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 11:31

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear gion!
nobdy said meles is a woman. If you are trying to emphasize "greatness", you are undermining the 50%+ ethiopians in every sector who are carrying all the burdens.
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 11:38

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msg Comment from: Aschalew [Visitor]
To: Belay Tesema

Peace for Ethiopia not violence.

Kidist was right for her peaceful comment to bring lasting peace and growth to Ethiopia and economy.

You must be ignorant and not getting it what is right thing to do for Ethiopia.

You must have you own small world that you think is right in your small brain.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 11:46

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msg Comment from: nuna [Visitor]
tyrants don't want others to speak, thank God for internet, if it was just up to meles and cronnies, we will be fed day and night of their lies and, we will not even have an outlet to vent.they are trying their very best to get the amharic section of VOA dismantled, so we can only have one news outlet.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 12:09

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msg Comment from: Kidist ashagre [Visitor]
EPRDF has to share wealth of Ethiopia equally to all provinces specially to those that has been ignored by previous rulers including Menlik, Haile Selassie and Mengistu as well.

EPRDF needs to change its view in rural Ethiopia that needs lots of improvement.

Most of the news we hear from Ethiopia was about Northern part in particular Tigray, Amhara regions and Eastern Ethiopia getting millions of birr worth of different activities being carried out in cities and country sides.

Country side and rural Ethiopia in other provincesneeds financial aid from Ethiopian government to improve lives of farmers and poor Ethiopians.

Rural Ethiopia needs sanitation, clean water, schools, clinics, roads, telephones and so on.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 15:45

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
Back on monday, I thought the woyanes could have a break on the weekends. hard working people aren't they? Yes they are, killing people witout regard to age, gender, empty handed. even sunday.

On sunday, I watched a movie E.T with my kid. He told me, I think I saw some one like him (I guess he was behind me when I viewed the video on tamagne.com).
Well I told him this one is still on earth unlike E.T. so sympathic looking.
I told him the one is still on earth kills children like you on the streets and their mothers.
He laughs a bit, he thought I was joking.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 16:05

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear Kidist ashagre !
I am not sure about Areas who are habitted by Amhara or eastern (or anybody else) got special preference in haileselassie or mengistu's. If you have information otherwise i really wants to know. They were working around cities to show that their cities are showing progress or to hide their dirty laundary.
These days, from my personal experience, things are doing incorrectly favouring only one part of the region. That should not be a green light for attacking the poor sons and daughters of tigray.
Kidist, the truth hurts. That is what i felt when i am instructed to do things differently to the one meles and the network are telling us about the situration in our country.
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 16:13

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msg Comment from: Beyene [Visitor]
What's most interesting is that the blog writers are depicted as "REBELS". Besaaaaaaak!
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 16:14

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msg Comment from: mammo killu [Visitor]

Hey apache,

I think you are gaining prominence everyday. Your blog is featured both at BBC and Washington post. I think that's great. This site will be big. Keep up the good job, if not I will be so mad....then I will come to your house and eat all the food in your fridge.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 16:16

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msg Comment from: worreddes [Visitor]
Who is Muhamed? He must have said something good to touch woyannes' butchelas. I am all for that Muhamed.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/06 @ 18:05

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msg Comment from: mimi [Visitor]
After 15 years, why does anyone want to rule the country? Like other western countries, give a chance for somebody else. Life is short,retire and relax. You have a wife and kids so enjoy life with your family.Free the prisoners.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 00:40

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msg Comment from: W/Senbet [Visitor]
Teshome,
Try to think logically and expreess your idea accordingly. You wanted to tell us meles brought us democracy,introduced internate, etc.,as if on his absence these things did not take place. He,meles, sold the country and the people, has no moral right to stay in on power any single day.
As for CDU conserned, ask the people of Ethiopia, if you still do not understand.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 01:48

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msg Comment from: almayehu yazew [Visitor]
Soory soory 1000 tiome b/c some people think every ting come after weyane take over the power .Like dimocracy mm.
Today the world doing alote of
technology the is fastest and woyane donot do what should they do this is real .dont proud with epdrf they are killer stuped creasy.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 02:06

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msg Comment from: berqesew [Visitor]
Dear TPLFites,
if everyone and everything is going against you there must be something about you that has gone wrong .please try to find out what the problem could be rather than bumping against everything on your way to nowhere.journalists,human rights activists, europe, the diaspora, civic organizations, school children(including KG babies),cud, uedf, ofdm,Siye et. al. No body knows what or who could be next except the 'great' leader.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 06:00

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msg Comment from: zekiros haile [Visitor]
we understand that you guys have nothing productive,Ethiopia will never go back into your way.you guys are lagging behind.if you keep going the way you are now,you will have another forteen years to lag behind every Ethiopian,until then you will never produce any thing.because it is natural for our brain to reject negatives,like haterate,joulesy,silliness, all nasty mentality.
CUD is gone for good try another one TPLF in north America.
Hiji wun bikalsna niewet!
kibri nswuatna!!!!!!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 11:49

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msg Comment from: Marsha T. [Visitor]
Comment from: Marsha T. [Visitor]
Know who Mumed is.

Muhamed is Somalian living in Harer region.

We can proof it with open letter to government of Ethiopia and USA.

That was why Muhamed was always promoting violence messages to different tribes and wanted civil war and arm sruggle in Ethiopia.

It is good that we have a chances to voice our openion online.

But becareful that some intruders like Mohamed, from Somalia, were trying to divert attentions of true Ethiopians and wated Ethiopia to be destroyed.

Please DO NOT ignore about who Muhamed and where he is from.


PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 12:13

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msg Comment from: Mesfin Addisu [Visitor]
mimi

I don't think you know how leadership works in Western countries.

Any elected leader rules the country as long as they are elected over and over regardless of the duration of leadership.


Take example of Bill Clinton is USA. Even after sex scandal, Americans didn’t demonstrate to kick him out from office.
You are just learner and still learning about peace.

The truth is that you just don't want peace in Ethiopia, because the leader is from minority class.

You just wanted violence and disturbance in peaceful Ethiopia.

Come to dialogue to solve problems in peaceful manner not violence.

You must be thinking
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 14:36

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO ZEKIROS HAILE,

You are going to be punished by your woyane masters, for what your positive brain posts.

hiji wun bikalsna niewet!
kibri nswuatna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Means:
Now too we will win by our struggle!
Respect for our martyrs!!!!!!!!!

Your or your woyane teachers have forgotten to tell you they are in power for almost 14 years.
Unless you are convinced time is over for you & your governement, which I volontarily believe your brain goes this way.
Wish you good luck back on the bush.

NEWS TO BE TOLD FOR RECORDS:

*A Switzerland based human right activists has informed woyanes there was an organized child abuse 'Pedopholia' in WOLDIA ORPHAN CENTER-WOLLO, by ngo's and investigate this crimes before they left ethiopia.
But they left the country without problem, who cares for these childs.

* In djibuti during a conference where the pm attended, one of his guards attempted to assasinate him.
The djibuti security forces evacuate all of his guards to addis by a special plane.
At last the whole guards of pm was killed in unknown place, and replaced by another guards.

(those news are not recent news)
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 15:19

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msg Comment from: Concerned - Ethiopian [Visitor]
Dear Mesfin Addisu:

Please learn about how the Western politics works. What you know is completely untrue and I recommend you to go back and read about what you posted. Dear Ethiopians, these are kinds of people leading Ethiopia. I am so sad. They had 14 years to learn and become educated but unfortunately all the want is money and ethnic politics. Also, dear Mesfin Addisu, I am glad that you admitted that Ethiopia is lead by one ethnic group as you called it ethnic minority. But for me ethnic minority is not Tigrians, but those hodams. True Tigrians are those who also been oppressed. Who cannot read any independent media because "independent media and newspapers belong to neftegha" according to your dumb leaders. It is 2006 for God’s sake – wake up!!!
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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

"...Comment from: mammo killu [Visitor]

Hey apache,

I think you are gaining prominence everyday. Your blog is featured both at BBC and Washington post. I think that's great. This site will be big. Keep up the good job, if not I will be so mad....then I will come to your house and eat all the food in your fridge.
01/16/06 @ 16:16
"
that was the good one mk.

what about the left over food? I suggest you leave it in the voice mail.

thxs nazreth.
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 17:22

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msg Comment from: Hong Chin [Visitor]
TO:SISI

Wat'z up.Kndey eyom kefilomki/ka?Tigrawyeti/way diki/ka ways Eretraweyti/way?Eretraweyti/way.Bi haki gna wurdetegna eki/eka.SHAME ON YOU.

WURDETEGNA....
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 18:24

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msg Comment from: Selam [Visitor]
Dear Mesfin Addisu,

In your 'educated self assurance', you wrote, 'I don't think you know how leadership works in Western countries. Any elected leader rules the country as long as they are elected over and over regardless of the duration of leadership.'

If a president abuses his power, he is impeached from office. Clinton survived because the 'crime' is having consensual sex.

Have you ever heard of President Richard Nixon and what happened to him?

Next time please educate yourself first before pompously exposing your ignorance.

Meles and Co. deceive and lie to people in order to protect their millions, what is there for you? What do you get for exposing your ignorance?
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msg Comment from: mimi [Visitor]
Dear Concerned-Ethiopian and Selam, thank you. Tell this ignorant.
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msg Comment from: Wochano [Visitor]





To: Concerned
To: Selam

If you obey the law, you are hired.
If you break the law, you are fired.

"Kewedeku menferaget, akalin megeshelalet naw".

You or any one else wants it or not, the leader of Ethiopia will lead Ethiopia for his full term.

No matter what you said to peace loving Ethiopian, then, Mesfin Addisu, peace of Ethiopia will remain intact.

If you obey the law, you are hired.
If you break the law, you are fired.

What happened in USA was not for the same reason as you hate Meles, his leadership and his tribe.

You will be ashamed if you don't succeed with your negative vision and negative view to Ethiopia.

Your negative vision for Ethiopia was not more than narrow minded and demented ideas to bring about instability to country.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 21:09

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msg Comment from: Negede [Visitor]
To: mini

Ignorant is a person with molded brain who doeasn't like peace.

You must have your own small world that what you think was acceptable, but not in civilized world.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 21:14

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msg Comment from: Selamawit [Visitor]
To: Concerned

In civilized world, people solve problems in civilized manner, there fore, by dialogue not by violence.

You think you are civilized because you work in parking lot in USA.

Do and think as civilized.

It is normal practice for CUDs and their supporters to prioritize violence than interest of the country for their own political gain.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 21:21

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Selamawit,

What do you mean when you say civilized?

How do you define civilization?

What makes you think working in parking lot is not being civilized?

Are you civilized? If so how? Or your thinking and supporting the killing of Ethioioiain children make you a civilized person? Pardon me, I stil use my fingers to eat enjera. Will that make me uncivilized? Does eating pasta with fork and spoon will make me civilized?

If killing innocent Ethiopian children is normal for you, then you are way down from being civilized.

My advise; Grow up!!!
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 22:27

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear Selamawit!
You are assuming things when you are saying:

"You think you are civilized because you work in parking lot in USA."

If i tell you that i have proof about meles taking 200,000USD and art work from yara company and award them lucrative business deal, what do you say about 'civilization'?
or
is it the subject no one from your camp wants to talk about it?

If i also tell you about who is who in our country's list of zillionaries can you tell me who is related to who?
What you guys are doing is hypocritical.
I am suggesting for you guys to add one article in your constitution which is going to say:
It is an alienable right of the family members of the ruling party to accumulate wealth as long as the previous governments were doing the same thing.
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/17/06 @ 23:54

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msg Comment from: hayat [Visitor]

Down with the woyane government! There should not be any dialogue! What for?

The truth is woyane is terribly defeated at the poll.

So, woyane should go and should also pay for all the damages it caused!

This is what should happen!

The rest is just a drama, and we do not have time for that now. The country is on fire and children are being eaten by the fire.

So, cadres it is time for you to stop preaching. You are already paid enough. So, get back to your normal lives!
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msg Comment from: Zekiros haile [Visitor]
SISI,youmust be dreaming,if you don't follow the rule you pay the price!!!got it!
the EPRDF defeated the CUD separately,as EPRP,Derg & soon,so you come again altogether & you are defeated again.
PLEASE TRY SOME OTHER MEANS!!!
THANKS
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 15:02

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msg Comment from: Marsha T. [Visitor]
To: Thunder
tO: yehuna

It seems like both of you are pissed off because the truth is coming out.

Why are you both getting mad? Because some body knew that you both work in parking lot in America and trying to steer thing up in peaceful Ethiopia for innocent Ethiopians living here in Ethiopia?

What do you know about peace for Ethiopia than smearing in somebody’s face with grease and letting that person to lead Ethiopia down in the drain.

Just improve your own life first that will never take you anywhere than working in parking lot.

Civilization means doing things in civilized manner not by violence as CUDs or their supporters do always.

civilization means do things or lead country in broad minded way, not violent way

Also it means that solve problems by dialogue not acting like riff raff. I hope you know what that means, you mist be riff raffs.

Just leave peace of Ethiopia alone.
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 15:57

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO MARSHA T.
HOW IS LIFE IN SHERATON HOTEL.
you are hired western man, or jehova preacher, or an NGO lobbyst of woyanes.
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 17:58

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO HONG CHIN?

NIHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 18:04

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO ZEKIROS HAILE,

I'm coming with my means.
earch your hiding.
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 18:08

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear Marsha T!
Now i am sure about one thing, You guys are not allowed to touch the yara subject or the life style meles and the network are enjoying while millions are starving.
no no no no no no
Please do not tell me diaspora created the starvation story in the parking lot where i am working!!!!!!!.
Give me a klimanjaro size brake.

You are playing a childish game.

When you are cornered by the devilish policy you are running with, You are going to use diaspora, parking, derg, anti peace, haileselassie, menilik, ...etc. arguement.
If you want to talk about peace, you have to put the guns still wet by the blood of kids and moms. Then tell meles that Ethiopia belongs to ethiopians. It is not his personal belonging.

If you want to talk about civilization, act accordingly.

You said
"...Civilization means doing things in civilized manner"
what a defination!!!!!
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 19:25

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
oops!
Gashie Mershat T
I do not know who told you that you are going to die unless you defined civilization.

You again said:
"...civilization means do things or lead country in broad minded way, not violent way"
way to go Mersha the Webster!

some thing i found for you
The Definiendum: ex. a cat (what we are defining)
The Definien: the actual definition

take care.
from the parking lot

PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 19:44

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Marsha T.

First of all you must be an idiot when you said,
"...in peaceful Ethiopia..." Where is the peace in Ethiopia?


second of all you must be super idiot when you said,
"...solve problems by dialogue..."

There, you showed your stupidity when you contradict yourself by mentioning "peace" with "problems". If problems exiset in Ethiopia, then, there is no peace in Ethiopia.Now,this will make you super duper IDIOT!

P.S, No dialogue with woyanes. Because,you don't know what dialogue means.
PermalinkPermalink 01/18/06 @ 20:51

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msg Comment from: Sentayehu [Visitor]
Sisi,

We are tired of your BS. Find your forum with the Eritrian people.

I am still waiting from you or any Eritrian in this forum to openly criticize Afewerkii the butcher for his genocide on his own people and for not giving you a constitution and free election for the last 15 years.

Why are you here.. You are following us as a locust. You were cancers to Ethiopia, once the cancer is removed, Ethiopia is in the process of healing.

Again, we Ethiopians are capable of solving our own problem. We do not need a sympatizer like you..

You cowards are so terrorized by Afeworkiii and his thughs you can not even speak your mind. what a shame..

Cheers...

PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 03:43

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO SENTAYEHU,
You repeat what you have told me on the other Topic.
You are not an Ethiopian at all. you can't solve the ethiopian problem, because you are the problem.
I'm not terrorized at all, A kind of guy like you terrorize children and you know that.
I understand you are trying to confuse this forum in diverting from the real issue.
For your concern about my participation in the forum, I will be here and follow you! cry..cry..
I'm free you better go to mekele forum.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 06:56

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msg Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
To All of You,

The problem in ethiopia is not ethnical
problem, but the problem is only that in
the past 500 years and until now decide
about ethiopians only the 45% christians!
Christians thought that muslims have no
intelligence and mostly they think that
muslims have as a country arabic countries.

All of you christians have more than
500 years to take care of ethiopians and
create a democratic ethiopia, but until
now no one of you has finished the
work. So please give now this chance to
muslim ethiopians.

No muslim speaks about ethnical origin,
but christians do it everyday and every
where. They try to disorganize the
muslims using ethnical problems, which
are created by christians specially
Amhara. The meaning of Amhara is christ.
And a muslim who lives in Gondar or
Gojjam is not amhara but muslim and
ethiopian.

Please do not use ethnical origins which are created from you and never transfer
it please to friendly muslim ethiopians.

TPLF/EPRDF is until now the best party
which gives more than 55% muslim
ethiopians freedom and democraty. Do it,
continue it, as a muslim I love your
work !





PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 09:26

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msg Comment from: Aschalew [Visitor]
To: yehuna
To: Thunder.

You both keep dream'n.

Ethiopia was peace bofore election.

No matter what you think with your small world, Marsha and any peace loving Ethiopians will not let you or CUD TO LET HAVE ANOTHER VIOLENCE OR YOU WILL END UP WHERE YOUR NARROW MINDED LEADERS ARE.


Obey the law of the land.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 13:52

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear Aschalew!
I have some questions for you.
(For the time being, i am going to stop bringing about yara and the 200,000USD + artwork)

What do you mean about peace?
(Are you talking about the 'peace'time you, and the few, who are accumulating zillions of dollars in a record time.)?

Do you think those thousands of people who lost their life in all four corners agree with you? What about the millions who were starved and even lost their lives? do you think they will agree with your assertion?

Are you implying that election was a bad medicine for your 'peace'?
(I believe election (part of our fundamental right) should be considered as a given. nobody has a right to 'give' it to us or 'take it away' from us)

Do not you think there is a big difference between standing up for capital and peace?
(you see Aschalew, during derg, all those cronies had 'peace' but that did not mean anything for the majority of the people.)

The last time i read from cud literature(by the way i am not a cud member) is that, they are calling for peaceful stuggle. meles is the one who tried everything from his sleeves and create an atmosphere to discredit the struggle.
Do you remember the million + peaceful demonstrators who voice their oppinion supporting the opposition movement. Do not you think that if they march to meles's office they can wipe out all the the network?

You said:
"Obey the law of the land."
Are you series?
take care.
take care.


PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 16:19

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
ATO GEBRESELASSIE,

YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE HONORABLE PROF.MESFIN WOLDEMARIAM.
FAR,FAR.... BEFORE THE ELECTION, HE TOLD IN B.B.C.INTERVIEW, ETHIOPIANS ARE FRUSTRATED AND AFRAID, BECAUSE THE PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF IS AFRAID. THE ETHIOPIA HE SEE IS ONLY THE PALACE AND THE ROAD TO BOLE AIR PORT.
you talk about president bush's election,have you seen how many states he have visited and meetings he participated.
Those leaders who are in jail has done the same thing and hold meetings and talk with the ethiopian people and ethiopian people elected the coalition of opposition. NOW THEY ARE IN PRISON.
EXPLAIN ME WHAT IS DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW?
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 16:56

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Aschalew,

If it were up to you and your alikes, I would have been shot dead by now. You see, there were no peace in Ethiopia before the election. The trouble is you just came to reality that your flow of fund is bieng stopped. That is bothering you a lot and burnning you inside.You don't love peace, what you love is being selifish while the littel children of Ethiopia are being murdered by you and your alikes. So my friend, time is near when you really are going to be out in the cold.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 17:00

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msg Comment from: Astemrewu [Visitor]
The killing spree continued today in Addis. Two young boys were murdered by tigrray agazi hooligans. What are you waiting people? They want to kill us all one by one! We must start killing them back soon. We have a good enough reason to kill back the tigray hooligans!!
The real sprit of Addis please stands up!!

01/19/06 @ 17:47
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 18:38

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msg Comment from: Astemrewu [Visitor]
"Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it".
Dear Ethiopians!! You must not respect or abide by the so called constitution of Tigray hooligans any more! Because those who wrote it, the tigray hooligans themselves, do not respect it either. So why should you?
Get up stand up!! BE COUNTED!! KILL THE TIGRAY HOOLIGANS
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 19:05

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msg Comment from: mimi [Visitor]
The last 14 years, this government doing a lot of good things for Ethiopian people. They do good Economy, such us real state, road, banks, industry, and farming. Etc... And eliminate corruption, and thefts, you gays you don’t know what exactly you need.
Like long time ago Most of young people including me we believe EPRP with out any compromise EPRP they believe like DURG socialist. pls think twice before support cud don’t support because they cud oppose EPDRF .
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 19:50

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msg Comment from: Astemrewu [Visitor]
Mimi, baby, please send your comment to Addiszemen newspaper or radio fana. (Mimi, baby you sound like a 14 year old little girl to me, did you get your mammy’s permission to write here? if not be patient until you grow up fully.
by mimi, baby!
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 20:14

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msg Comment from: Astemrewu [Visitor]
Mike (AKA. moronic tigray)
You tried to divide Ethiopians by ethnic lines but it did not work out for you. Now you Tigray hooligans are coming to plan B, religious hate. I m sure this will fail too, because we are going to kill you all tgray hooligans.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/06 @ 20:29

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msg Comment from: sisi [Visitor]
TO MIMI,

My mother told you, If you were an e.p.r.p. you had given enough time to understand and learn from the past what really economic achievement means. I'm sorry you hadn't growth an inch.
T.P.L.F. Govrnement
* 60% of it's budget is supported by donnor countries.
* He recieves every year around 2 billion dollars for developpement since 14 years.
* BANKS & road wer there too or were under consrtruction. There is no country who have no banks.
* T.P.L.F is the most corrupted one (transparency organization).
* Ethiopia has become the poorest country in the world next to niger and is doing worst than Somalia, who haven't even a governement.
* Ethiopia is the third hiv/aids country next to south africa and botswana.
THIS IS A LETTER FOR YOU FROM MAM.

AND SISI TOLD YOU:

" T.P.L.F. IS END "



PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 07:04

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msg Comment from: Selamawit [Visitor]
To: mimi

I agree with you.

These individuals, who against growth and peace in Ethiopia, have narrow mind and have poor vision to growth and peace in Ethiopia.

CUDs and their supporters wanted their own personal gain and interest than Ethiopia’s.

Ethiopia’s economy grew by 12 percent the last two years alone and poverty reduction was recognized by out side world.

They can simply say all negative ideas about Ethiopia that it will never be practical and can not be proofed.

It is normal practice for CUDs and their supporters to ignite violence to solve problems in stead of dialogue because losers are always losers.
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 13:56

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msg Comment from: Selamawit [Visitor]
To: yehuna

The knowledge you have was limited about what happened when COD leaders were invited to join parliament.

Both US and UK embassy invited CUD leaders to join but parliament to solve problems and differences by dialogue but, they stubbornly refused.

They chose street demonstrations and violent, as direct result, an innocent Ethiopians be killed as provocation of CUD.

Who started first? Were there killings before election?

No one would have been killed today if CUD wouldn’t have asked innocent Ethiopians to go on street.

That was the fact. If you don’t believe it, I wouldn’t be surprise, because, it is always hard for you to do what is right for Ethiopia.

“You are still going but you don’t know where you are going”.

If you break the law, you are fired.
If you obey the law you are hired.
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 14:14

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msg Comment from: Kebede [Visitor]
To: Thunder

You wrote about Masha T. like you are from street.

Digest about peace and stability in Ethiopia not violence.

Talk about growth of economy by peaceful manner not violence.

None of problems will be solved with out dialogue and vise versa.

You don't have to ignore every thing that was achieved positively since 1991.

In your knowledge, violence is the only means to solve problems. Then when are you going to be elected to lead Ethiopia peacefully?
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 14:34

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msg Comment from: damota [Visitor]
To: sisi

Prioritize peace first than violence.

Is your brain spinning around yet with 500 sisi that you got from those who wanted to steer things up in Ethiopia?

Life in Sheraton Addis was wonderful.

Let Ethiopia remain multi ethnic classes, including minority class ruled country.
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 14:47

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Kebede,

I am not a poletician neither have the need to ran for office. I as the rest of Ethipians love to live in peace. But, the burning question is, why is it there is no peace in the nation? Who do you think the cause of it? I don't know from which angle you are looking at it and it does not matter from which angle you look at it , at this point there is no peace in Ethiopia. I don't think the TPLF/EPRDF much careless about it since they are the cause. They have chosen not to abide by it. Therfore, my friend, since woyanes don't know peace, there is no need to have dialogue with them. Call it whatever you may, the only soluton is to put the woyanes out of business.
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/06 @ 18:28

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msg Comment from: damota [Visitor]
To: Thunder

I think CUDs are the once noticeably winding down and out of business for their negative and poor vision for the country
PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 02:02

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
damota,

Listen to the people. What are they saying?
PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 02:57

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msg Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]
Dear Selamawit!

you said:
"If you break the law, you are fired...."
help me with this.
200,000USD and art work bought yara a lucrative fertilzer contract.
Use ethiopian law which has to work on every body(remember musena and tamrat leaynie)
take care.
PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 05:56

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msg Comment from: mimi [Visitor]
This is open discussion express idea. Convince me you gays let me follow
Your step, the fact the matter is economy is booming, like selamawit said by 12 present check any static’s you know that its progress gays.
They main thing for Ethiopia at this moment, work ethics.
Investors came from different places in Addis or where ever They invest there money with out any problem

PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 10:09

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msg Comment from: mimi [Visitor]
Ethiopia will be the first beneficiary of the Pan-African e-Network project as the headquarters is in of African Union and is keen for its early implementation, look all gays especially cud or 60 % of dc tax drivers or narrow minded. The necessary infrastructure is implemented.
And also human right before election was progress every single day. The problem is after election that problem I oppose.
Both parties not only EPDRF

PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 10:28

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msg Comment from: TAMTAM [Visitor]
DEER MIMI
I AGERE WHAT YOU SAID WE EPRP WE DIEING FOR THAT STUPIED PARTY YOU KNOW EVEN NOW 16-20 YEARS OLD YOUNG PEOPLE DIEING IF YOU ASK THEM WHAT IS CUD POLICES THEY DONT KNOW MAJORITY OF THEM THE SO CALLED ENG POLTICIAN THEY USED THEM THESE YOUNG PEOPLE
PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 19:42

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msg Comment from: damota [Visitor]
To: Mimi.

I agree with you Mimi.

These Taxi drivers and parking lot attendants/workers in USA and Canada, including other western countries are using innocent Ethiopian children as a tool to go on street and be killed for their own political gain.

No one in Ethiopia should be listening to these guys (Taxi drivers and parking lot attendant/workers), and be killed for them.

They enjoy their lives in over sea and letting innocent and poor Ethiopians be killed on street.
PermalinkPermalink 01/21/06 @ 23:32

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