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Do Ethiopia’s politicians mean it on democracy?

By Barry Malone

Reuters Blog

On the evening of the 20th of March 1878, Ethiopia’s two great rivals, Emperors Yohannes IV and Menelik II, came face-to-face to thrash out their differences.

As the two men met for the first time, traditional Ethiopian singers are said to have sang “A road that is perilous is far / you have to climb and then descend.”

Ethiopia’s journey since then has certainly been perilous.

It has been marked by great heights like the defeat of Italy’s colonialist army at the battle of Adwa in 1895. And devastating lows such as the 1984 famine that killed more than 1 million people and brought the country long-lasting notoriety.

The huge nation is again heading into interesting times.

This week the government of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi agreed a code of conduct for next May’s national elections with three opposition parties — two of which are dismissed by opponents as ruling party satellites.

But the biggest opposition force, a coalition of eight parties called Medrek (the Forum), did not participate in the negotiations despite repeated invitations.

Medrek said issues including reform of the national electoral board and access to the media were left out. But some Ethiopians suspect that opposition leaders just can’t stand the thought of sitting down with government negotiators.

And a lot of the opposition parties seem to despise each other, too.

Ethiopian politicians love to talk about democracy. It’s presented as the ultimate political goal for a country that has never had a peaceful transition of power.

The government talks about democracy. But is routinely accused of harassment and intimidation. Opposition parties talk about democracy. But most of them won’t even try to talk to those in power about how to make it a reality.

And they all disagree on how close they are to finally achieving it.

“Ethiopia believes it is an emerging democracy,” the government’s head of information Bereket Simon told me this week. “We cannot say we have perfect governance yet. But, on balance, we are moving forward.”

Yet the opposition says there is no democracy at all and accuses the government of using the code of conduct negotiations to hoodwink the West — on which it still relies for huge amounts of humanitarian aid.

Ethiopia’s last national elections in 2005 ended in disaster when a previous opposition coalition said the government fixed its victory and street violence broke out in the capital Addis Ababa in which almost 200 protesters were killed.

Many Ethiopians tell me they were so disheartened by that experience that they have lost interest in voting. 2005 also entrenched extremism on both sides.

Some diplomats in Addis Ababa are putting pressure on Medrek to talk to the government, telling its leaders they believe Meles is acting in good faith.

And the government says Medrek can still get involved in ongoing talks.

So, no matter how bitter the rivalry, why haven’t Ethiopia’s main powerbrokers today been able to talk to each other as happened more than a century ago?

Who’s right about how close Ethiopia is to democracy? How can a poor country secure a prosperous future? What are the solutions? Is democracy even one of them?

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msg Comment from: Chala from Addis [Visitor]
The huge nation is again heading into interesting times. interestingly forward.:!:

PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 03:12

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msg Comment from: kibrom [Visitor]
Who’s right about how close Ethiopia is to democracy? How can a poor country secure a prosperous future? What are the solutions? Is democracy even one of them?
Here is the answer
Ethiopia is far far far away from democracy, and will never achive any prosperous future in the eyes of tribal regime, the solution is dismantle Tplf and then we caan try democracy in good faith and trust.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 03:19

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msg Comment from: mikale [Visitor]
"Is democracy even one of them?" Thats a very good question!
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 03:27

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msg Comment from: Alemu [Visitor]
If there is a will there is away. Will the government allow the people of Ethiopia to have their say in the matter? The last election showed us that that is not the case. There cannot be any democracy if there is no free and fair election. The governments hold on power is so great that no oppsoition can campain properly. But the people are so hungry for change and would like to see alternatives and would probably vote for opposition parties more than they would for their oppresive government. But I expect to see what the governemnt did in the second round of votes in 2005. So lets not expect any change. The governemnt is staying in power so long as it has the strong support from the west. Lets not forget the PM was rubbing shoulders with G8 leaders after he got killed more that 200 people and arrested over 50,000 people after the last ellection. The singers were right over 100 years ago and unfortunately they are still right. I wish I could hear the song.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 03:32

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msg Comment from: Tefera [Visitor]
"the government says Medrek can still get involved in ongoing talks.

So, no matter how bitter the rivalry, why haven’t Ethiopia’s main powerbrokers today been able to talk to each other as happened more than a century ago?

Who’s right about how close Ethiopia is to democracy? How can a poor country secure a prosperous future? What are the solutions? Is democracy even one of them?"
....
that is an honest ovservation by the write.
in my opinion democracy is one of the solution, if we can achive it peacefuly and gradually, and i believe that is what ato hailu and lidetu despite being late and villified are trying to do.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 10:09

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msg Comment from: Yared [Visitor]
thank you Barry

our so called oppositions are neither well educated nor smart like Meles. the true comes gradually. they dont know where they are going now because their drivers are private radio station owners in DC area. I wonder what they gona say if they lose another chance like they did in 2005.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 10:37

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msg Comment from: sami [Visitor]
I think both meles and Hailu shewal,Ledetu and the others partys did the right thing. Let the ethiopian people decide who they like. Some of you guys who are commenting bad here are from shabia agents. Forward ethiopia
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 13:50

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msg Comment from: afarman [Visitor]
It was a good observation. I like the way the article was written. The agreement on the code of conduct in relation to the election is a landmark in Ethiopian politics. We can see light at the end of the tunnel, its a good beginning and I hope those who decided to boucott the discussion will come on board the the weeks and months to come. The EPRDF seems to be initiating good ideas that will ultimately help our country. Ethiopia belongs to all of us and has no stepkids. We all are ethiopians irrespective of our ethnic, religious and political backgrounds. The EPRDF has every right to govern the country as long as its elected by the majority. Some of the opposition leaders arent showing tolerance to the incumbant, they want to see the EPRDF overthrown for good, they don want to see EPRDF to be part of the political dynamism in Ethiopia. All the political groups in Ethiopia do enjoy popular support from some sections of our community. Calling names and character assasination wont help us all. The only thing forward is to build and consolidate the democratic institutions.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 14:01

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msg Comment from: ZXAmiche [Visitor]
Imported democracy to divide and rule?

Hell with it!
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 14:26

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msg Comment from: Ewunetu [Visitor]
Terrorist TPLF used Hailu Shawel, Bedru Adem and W/ro Tigist to destroy what is left of Kinijit after the terrorist TPLF was forced to release Kinijit leaders from its dungeons. Terrorist TPLF used its mouthpieces (weekend talkshows) in diaspora especially in the U.S. The mouthpieces of the terrorist TPLF in Washington, D.C. metropolitan area include Mirchawu's, Negussie Hode Meragn's and Selam radios. Especially Mirchawu's and negussie's radios play bad cap-good cap on the diaspora Ethiopians living around D.C., in the U.S and around the world. Their main mission entrusted to them by the terrorist TPLF is to play bad cap-good cap and confuse the diaspora in order to break tha backbone of any viable opposition as soon as it appears on the horizon. Their main job for which Mirchawu (aka Amtatawu) and negussie get paid by the terrorist TPLF is to prevent any viable Ethiopian opposition (any viable threat to the terrorist TPLF) from gaining any strong foothold in the diaspora and divide and weaken their support or potential for support. The terrorist TPLF pays also for their air time. One pulls from the right and the other from the left with tha same goal of confusing the diaspora and destroying the opposition. Mirchawu plays good cap and negussie plays bad cap on the diaspora. They work together hands in gloves. They broadcast from the same station and share their air time without even any attempt to hide it. They also defend one another from any attack from the audience. By playing good cap especially Mirchawu tried to destroy Kinijit. It also tried to destroy the OLF, EPPF, AAPO, AFD, Ginbot 7 just to mention a few. The current mission on which Mirchawu is working hard to destroy is MEDREK. The good thing is more and people are getting it. Ewunetu
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 14:58

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msg Comment from: laljoe [Visitor]
Dear Barry Malone,

I am always amazed at how the realities are totally skipped when it comes to Ethiopia. The ruling party which you are trying your best to picture as something confusing has a clear picture of its own. IT IS UNDEMOCRATIC. Let me give you examples:
- In 2005 the government killed more than 250 street demonstrators.
- Harassed opposition representatives at election posts, and later on at election fraud investigations.
- Prisoned opposition party leaders for more than a year until they agree to sign a shameful paper accepting that they were wrong.
- Still keeps one of the opposition leaders, Birtukan Mideksa, who is a mother of a little boy because she said she didn't agree with what she signed.
- Owns the media, telecommunication (by the way it closed SMS during and after the election to avoid SMS based campaigning).
- Owns big and profitable business organizations.
What more do you want. Why do you keep asking the diplomats who spend most of their time in enclosed and spacious villas and hotel compounds. They are the ones who are playing the major role in feeding the world the wrong picture.
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msg Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
Secession has taught us there is no real democracy, just a fabricated democracy full of lies and deception. Ethiopia definately can achieve a prosperous future providing that the restoration of the Constitutional Monarchy is restored in its fullest sense. The history of Ethiopia is to precious to be alienated by selfish motives. Haile Selassie gave the Ethiopian people a Constitution of his own free will to bring the best of what the Anglo-American systems of law had to offer. Ethiopians would elect the most qualified, educated person in their communities to represent their voices in parliament in Addis Ababa, these elected members would then elect the most qualified and educated person to be Prime Minister who would be appointed by the Emperor. "Government servants are peoples servants.","In our times, there are those expansionists who by shedding blood, desire to achieve their ambition and by dismembering themselves they are seen as tools for alien interests. Our people from Ethiopia shed blood, to save themselves from disintegration. Those personalities who believe in freeing a country by secession are selfish and prey to outsiders. We will not accept their motives." Negus Haile Selassie, Long Live The Constitutional Monarchy, Long Live the Kebra Negast, Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 15:42

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msg Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Kibrom...last time I checked you are an eritrean who is still angry of tplf,bc it kicked ur azz. You have no place to voice what is best for Ethiopia. Beat it! scrum!

The main point is, do the opposition people really believe in democracy? Do they even know what democracy is? Let alone to count them as democratic front or the future leaders of Ethiopia. All their aim is to oust the current govt by any means necessary with out a long time programme for the country,leaving us in chaos.look the parties who are under FORUM,each one of them has their own diffrent antagonistic agenda whom can never agree to each other. if they take power,the first day. you will find them dead in the meeting room shooting each other. There is no any party or govt who could lead Ethiopia other than EPRDF at this time.
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 16:13

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msg Comment from: leehawma [Visitor]
the only way out 4 ethiopia is a true democracy. not those democracy imposed by others. 4 ethiopia democracy is its goal. Ethiopia will achieve that and is working hard for democracy to shine in ethiopia

well done ethiopia ethiopia will win with true democracy not colonalist democracy which is not democracy but opperssive axis promoted by thier puppet the so called oppostion group all over the globe
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 17:04

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msg Comment from: DEMOCRASY=RESPECT OF THE LAW OF THE LAND [Visitor]
addis zemen [Visitor]:

"...the opposition ..All their aim is to oust the current govt by any means necessary with out a long time programme for the country,leaving us in chaos... the parties who are under FORUM,each one of them has their own diffrent antagonistic agenda whom can never agree to each other. if they take power,the first day. you will find them dead in the meeting room shooting each other. There is no any party or govt who could lead Ethiopia other than EPRDF at this time."

I know the oppositioins' weaknes. But the meles kids aren't the alternative to the oppositions. Never! Never! They're ETHIOPIANS AND WE TRUST THEM. BUT OCCUPIERS? NO! BIG NO!
OCCUPIERS NEVER HAD AND WILL NEVER HAVE LONG LASTINT PROGRAMMES FOR THEIR VICTIMS WELL BEING. DID I SAY WELL BEING? I MEANT ...
YES THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST CHEOS...SOMETHING HELLISH FOR THESE KIDS' BOSSES.
The ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN THEIR RESPECT FOR THE LAW OF THE LAND WHEN MENGISTU AND HIS SYCOPHANTS FLED THE COUNTRY LEAVING THE COUNTRY WITHOUT LEADER. THEY WERE THE PRESIDENT. THEY WERE THE LEGISLATIVE. THEY WERE THE EXCUTIVE...THEY WERE THE JUDGES...THEY DIDN'T GO TO THE KEBELES AND BUCHERED THE REMNANTIS OF MENGISTU.
addis zemen! DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. WE KNOW OUR ENEMIES. WE KNOW OUR PEOPLE.
IF YOU REALLY CARE FOR THE COUNTRY, LET THE OPPOSITION HAVE A SAY. SHOW US THAT YOU RESPECT THE OF THE LAND. FORGET YOUR ETHNIC POLITICS.
THE WHITE MEN COULD TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT READY FOR DEMOCRACY 1000 YEARS FROM NOW...BLACK IS ALWAYS INFIRIOR...IN THEIR WORLD.
addis zemen! WHO ARE YOU TO TELL US WHETHER WE ARE READY OR KNOW ABOUT DEMOCRACY? WHY DON'T YOU FIRST CLEAN YOUR HOUSE?
ARE YOU ALREADY CLEARED OF THE ILLUSION OF PROLETARIAN DICTATORSHIP PROLETERIAN INTERNATIONALISM?
YOU'RE THE ONE VERY FAR AWAY TO KNOW DEMOCRACY.
LAST QUESTION: WERE THE GREEKS WHO ARE SAID TO BLESS US WITH THE TERM DEMOCRACY DEVELOPED SOCIETIES AT THE TIME WHEN THEY PRACTICED IT?
AREN'T YOU TELLING US THAT MENGISTU WAS OVER THROWN BY MISTAKE? MAY BE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE FIGHTING FOR. I SAY THIS YOU WERE FIGHTING FOR DEMOCRACY, WHICH NOW YOU'RE TELLING US THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE NOT READY FOR. WHAT A HIPOCRACY!
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msg Comment from: ZXAmiche [Visitor]
Democracy in Ethiopia?

ras saiTena gutena!
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 21:56

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msg Comment from: Positive Thinker [Visitor]
Mr. Malone
You gave us quite an education, You gave us quite an education, thank you for that. For some of you with stupid comments [you know who you are] just because you have internet access it does mean that you have to comment on every article you read. There is nothing wrong to be a reader once in while especially when you don’t have anything substantive to say about the topic. Please refrain yourself from telling us about your blind support or opposition. I know it is a bit difficult but you can do it. Try it …Stay out stupid!!!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 11/04/09 @ 22:10

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msg Comment from: kibrom [Visitor]
addis zemen
We ethiopians now leaned how to disguise ourselves from the tribal junta tplf, don't be scared if i am using an eritrean name, look legese zenawi, he switch his eritrean name to ethiopian to fool a moron like you, right now the eritrean legesse and bereket simon dancing on your head sucking your blood day in day out, by the time your little brain notice what was going on you are a dead men
PermalinkPermalink 11/05/09 @ 01:24

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msg Comment from: addis zemen [Visitor]
Kibrom,
As long as you call your self "we ethiopians" I don't have any problem.
Now I can conclude your grudge with woyane must be a very personal one,which makes you bark day and night on every topic on this web site.
What I don't get is your negativity to every Ethiopians,whether personaly or politicaly,doesn't make any sense.except ofcourse you could be one of those so called radical diaspora politicians or someone in psychitric hospital being treated for manic depression and mental disorder.
Keep on vomiting your hatred. If not a cure,it will help you as a day to day therapy.
PermalinkPermalink 11/05/09 @ 11:08

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msg Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
What a jock ,a tribal based regime TPLF using tribal militia forces (Agazis ) , strowing opposition leaders in prison (Miss Liberty W/T BIRTUKAN and many others ),desmanteling any democratic movement ,museling the free press ,comitting genocide against its own peoples .So where are then the critiras that the Tyrant Zenawi and his thugs can be legitimizes .
PermalinkPermalink 11/05/09 @ 12:52

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msg Comment from: BETI [Visitor]
Medrek is a basket containing food staffs suchas eggs ,tomatoes,carrots ,potatoes,cabbages ,cereals ,meat ,etc puting together for some time .finally eggs , tomatoes ,vegebles can diluted the potatoes even the strong one cereals.i dont think so they have some thing in common.why they
dont agree with other parties .they considr them selves as the only loyal opposition party considering others even Hailu shawel as pro govt.
i think this thinking is EPRDF VIEW as the founder of MEDREK are SIYE, DR.NEGASO,GEBRU .SO they like one oppsiton view only this is UN democratic act backed by socialist
thinking.when they were in power they wanted to see the sole solutin for the country problem was EPRDF policy .now also they are trying to tell as KENE BELAY LEASAR OR KENE BELAY TEKAWAMI YELEM.what about others . for ur surprise they dont know each others in Medrek. please
improve ur self talk with other oppositin parties,.evebn ENG hailu talked with Lidetu .this is nothing but advanced democracy.but u medrek from the bigingn starts to blame other oppositin.this is the result of SIYE ,NEGASO,GEBRU.SURE UGAIN nothing .ofcourse u tried to collect from each ethinic but this is not ur gaurante for ur vote the peaople are
more concious than u.even u collect 80 ethinic doesnt bring change the main thing is how u dissiminate ur objective .think over it
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msg Comment from: LILI [Visitor]
With my all born disrespect to Positive Thinker who gave 100% for himself as a communist dictator student by scaring the teacher, suspicious but not that scary comment of Alemu, Good respect for visionary "ZEBEGNA" (Hence, all/100% Ethiopian US residents and Ethiopian Americans still call dollar "Birr" in their concious and sub-concious including the unaware positive thinker with stoned mind whether it like it or not,- A FACTUAL DATA..including the millenium challenge nominee and the Virginia Info Net Chairman), and a good advise fro Ewnetu whom I knew for at least 8 years online ,not to think as gorebet but hager...Because peace is good for good or worse.

As for me, I was busy weaving brainy quotes and I am not going to rhyme today because of personal reasons and ethical issues by the Orthodox church.

Mr. + Thinker, you know that I rhyme DIRIB and/or sometimes upto 6 rounds weave for twelve jurors in the vicinity not court where it is not allowed.

But those quoters are not easy to smack.

TIM-BRENERS-LEE was quoted saying "Sites need be able to interact in one single universal space", and the great man Larry wall rhymed (quoted, and/or weaved itas "Real programmers can write assembly code in any language"

God is good and my insufficient critic and yet deluded footprint stalker from certain system, hospital vicinity or innovation stealing/soliciting and/or devaluing based on Jealousy (very drunk by a liquor called "KINAT)circle stuff might be spotted saying or hoaxing this as the wisest man.... "Our quotes are being used for politics"..Smart enough, ruthless enough and derek enough....

Just let's ork for good. I am very positive to learn from one of the highly diversified, sophisticated and organized campaign in history, THE VA RACE.

Today's news was all about the 3com thieves though. 14 New York attorneys and insiders calling it and starting it by..."Our internet is being used for politics"...

Who said ours' are super natural. No fear mongering and/or lizardy. Let's wait and see.

Alem nektalech tetenkek abesha Enatie timut!

PermalinkPermalink 11/05/09 @ 16:27

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msg Comment from: Lili [Visitor]
min medenes bich...medesetim enji.

Beshta new eko besew kusil enchet asedido regae/dembo and/or very poisonous brain fucking and infesting by conspiracy (wrong injection of merz meanings over good) mechefer????Chewa mabelashet..esisst madreg befamiliachew lie even.......Yemicheferibet sew may be suicide adirgo mutual...Ere eyetestewale????Yefikir Deha hono yadege sew betirru kaliazut ena/weinim be red code dereja kaltetenekekut ejig betam adegena new...yemiserawin ayawkimina...ke melkeskes beker.

Ejim yelewaigedil...siasgedil gin betam adegena new. Amsalun kagegne...Ager abekalat....

Lili Ende Kebede...

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msg Comment from: Hadush [Visitor]
Good obsevation but lacks fundamental perspective. The writer ask Abyssinian and say Ethiopians. What he said may apply to Habesha view but not Somali and others
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msg Comment from: Shamo [Visitor]
That’s why I hate politics.
Democracy what is it or how can we use it? What kind of democracy fit for our society and what should be the limit? Did anyone of you do your home work to understand it before we even attempt to open a dialog? It is like a calculus problem that you don’t know the proper formula to solve it. We will never solve the problem without the knowledge and willingness to pass it to those who can do the job right. As far as I am concerned I am not sure if I can trust opposition group too most have baggage take Hailu Shawl and likes. There few but overwhelmed by opportunist and big mouths.
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msg Comment from: Shamo [Visitor]
Lili
You really need to see a doctor or if you are drunk wait until you get sober before you write.
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