Donors plan to withhold $375m from Ethiopia

Comment from: the trinity [Visitor]

i am happy with the donors decision

because the money goes direct to the

poor rather than melese's account to

kill innocent ethiopian

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 05:35

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

Who should be responsible for such punishment of our country?
A.The dictator (Kids killer) Example Meles or
B.The democrat (debate winners) Example Dr. Birihanu
C.The people who vote for Democrats
Example Addis Ababa
D. The people who vote for dectator
Example: Adewa ( of course they didn't get alternative candidate)

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 05:44

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Comment from: Sitotaw [Visitor]

Congratulations to Shabia, the dirty diaspora who have been working hand in hand with shabia to get the world stop aiding Ethiopia.

Congra to Shabia websites particulary Ethiomedia and Ethiopian Review, rather Eritrean review.

Congra to the dergists who escaped from justice and now doing the same crime from abroad.

BUT, don't delude yourselves into believing that the decisions will destroy Ethiopia from map. Nothing will happen and life will continue as usual.

Sitotaw from Home, Addis

Posted from Ethiopia

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 05:51

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Comment from: balcha [Visitor]

Thank you Donners for taking this bold action on the jungle minded albanian comminist trained brutal meles zenawi.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 05:51

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

thanks to anti-ethiopia party CUD
and its master SHABIA for this news.
the time come to get rid off this banda PARTY out of ethiopia and dump it where it belong [TO drug addict street, little ethiopia in washington DC]

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:02

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Comment from: Mulu [Visitor]

If the aid comes through NGOs to ETHIOPIA ,from the point of view of the poor Etiopian has no problem.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:04

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Comment from: Sorressa [Visitor]

This is good news for those fugitives who disguise themselves as Ethiopians and working against the country's national interest.

It is neither good nor bad for us at home. If we work hard, we can overcome the difference that might be created by the stoppage of the aid.

We should also learn that we should never remain slaves to the white people's donations.

Hell with the enemies of Ethiopia including the so called diaspora. Wushoche.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:04

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Comment from: dido [Visitor]

Well, I have to congradulate the diaspora for their effort to stop aid to Ethiopia. Perhaps we are the only people in the world who beg donors not to help our country. It is sad really for the poor and mostly rural people of Ethiopia who would suffer the consequence. Aid cut will surely heart EPRDF, but it would take time, but meanwhile it is the ordinary Ethiopian who would suffer. Shame, shame and shame

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:08

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Comment from: hailu [Visitor]

CUD is working with SHABIA to destroy ethiopias economy.
there is a planned demonstration against CUD in addis very soon.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:16

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Comment from: jambo [Visitor]

the anti democratic and anti-eth. forces must be by now very happy.
it is allways the same old story
anti-ethiopian forces are acting once more togeater to put us down.
Shabia, the dirty diaspora who have been working hand in hand with shabia to get the world stop aiding Ethiopia.
it is time for all ethiopian democratic forces to work hard and show the world that what ethiopia need is only its peopel to overcome poverty.
we must fight the media against the democratical movement of the ethiopian ppl.once and for all.

long live the democratic movement
peace for ethiopian ppl.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:24

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Comment from: jambo [Visitor]

see you soon by anti schabia derg,esepa demonstration in addis

Peace for the ethiopian peopel

long live the ethiopian peopel democracy

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:30

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Comment from: degu [Visitor]

NO MORE DONATION MONEY FOR BLOOD SUKING PARTY[CUD]!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:47

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Comment from: JOE [Visitor]

The Amhara elite will not stop their struggle to regain power and they willing do that by any means necessary. They belive that it is thier God given right to rule Ethiopia. They don't trust any other ethinic group to do the job. There cult like false admiration and misguided love for the country is killing our nation.
I use to think the problem was that people were brain washed by previous rulers but now i start to think it is more than brain wash... is more like demonic.

I call on 0n all the Amhara elite (as Moses called on Pharone)........LET THE PEOPLE GO GO!!!!

JOE

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 06:54

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Comment from: helen [Visitor]

"Joe" you make a mistake
you mine;
"i call on all eprdp elite ( as Moses called on Pharon ) LET THE PEOPLE GO GO GO !!!!

no more money for your killer kommando!!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:04

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Comment from: kidst [Visitor]

meles is responsible for every thing happen in Ethiopia for 31 years.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:25

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Comment from: bekele [Visitor]

NO MORE SUPPORT FOR THOSE RETARDED CUD LEADERS IN US and THEIR ZOMBIES SUPPORTERS!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:26

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Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]

First of all I would like to say congradualtion to all brave Ethiopian youths and civil societies at home and you people living in diaspora who are true Etiopians excluding those'WOYANE BANDAS'for the victory we have achieved against the brutal Melles and his supporters.

In fact it was not so simple to gain this victory, our brothers and sisters at home had sacrified their irreversible life and the diasporas were being challenged by bitter struggles for the last six months.

Now your struggles bear fruits, and all of you who you are residing at home and in abroad should have to continue your struggle as usual to remove the dictator very soon, especially at this moment while you have got the attention of the international community.

As you can read on the above cooments of all the woyane puppets, we can realize that they are getting very nervous about the decision of the Internaltional community. So we should have to carry on/resume our struggle until the down fall of the dictatorial regime and our people be able to enjoy the rights freedom without limit.

Currently, the corrupted, rotten and criminal state of Melles Zemawi is preparing to call the people for demonstration to condemn cud, uedf, olf and other democratic forces, which is completely against the will of the people. Unless the government inforced citizens to come out for the demonstration as usual.

Anyway Brothers and Sisters lets keep up our struggle

Ignoring comments of non-sense Woyane Bandas and other traitors.
Long live for Ethiopia

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:38

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Comment from: Good news [Visitor]

We are very happy Donor decision. HULUM ZERO, ZERO...so, what will be the next stage of WOYANE. It is known, escape from our country!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:38

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Comment from: addis [Visitor]

Those of you who support the aid cut are either very naive or plane straight stupids.
Learn from Cuba and the Cuban diasporas acting exactly like the so called the Few but the Loud Ethiopian diasporas... despite aid cut, trade embargo, Fidel Castro is still in power... lesson to be taken is no money cut could or would bring any political solution.

I never thought the opposition supporters would go so low to the point of even siding with the enemy and choking the aid/development the country is enjoying.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:57

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Comment from: Bekel [Visitor]

From the beging, those CUD leaders move was against Ethiopians interst.They tried to change USA and EU aid programme,by using false information through" VOA and Deutshewlle"besides their collebration with Ertrieans.
So donor counties wether they agree or not those CUD leaders must face punshiment by Ethiopia`s constitutional low.It is not normal to bind(change) constitutional low only to get aid from donor countries.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:57

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

what next ?

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 07:58

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Comment from: Bonso [Visitor]

I think the next thing should be "handing over OROMIA to OLF" this is the only best solution for that empire! Then, Oromia and Ethiopia will be two different countries with their own FLAGS!!!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 08:22

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Comment from: albi [Visitor]

I swear to GOD it is so sad to see some of my country people feel euphora when AID is cut for Ethiopia.If you were Eritreans i can understand, but fellow Ethiopians thats crazy.My brothers and sisters, the more aid is withheld, it would creat an unbelievable sufferage towards the poor. Some of you said it would cripple the government, but i do not think so.With or without aid the government could survive. A lot of people have been saying that the government been stashing millions of dollars abroad, and if that is true, the aid money is not a matter of survival for the government. My people we have to be very careful what we are we wishing for. Those of us in diaspora and the wealthy in Ethiopia would not be affected, but the 90% of our brothers and sisters, would feel it like "ERGEMAN". GENA LEGENA MENGIST GENZEBUN YEWESDEWAL BELEN DEHA YAGERACHENEN HIZB ENJERAN ANASATAW. lATER IT WOULD BE US WHO WOULD BE BLAMED BY THE POOR ETHIOPIANS NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
PEACE

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 08:38

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Comment from: desta [Visitor]

TO:FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CONSIDERT THIS AS A GOOD NEWS.
yetim fichew duketun Amchiw-" the means justifies the end"this is the most back ward political strategy if at all it is strategy? do you guys think it is the wise idea to damage the economy of the poorest land on earth.do you know anything about the boiling point theory.for me it is only ISAYAS who is suffering from megalomanic disorder who should be happy by this news.do not be ENNEKEMOTKU SERDO AYBKEL.GOVERNMENT COMES AND GOES BUT WE HAVE TO SURVIVE AS A NATION.One thing is abounduntly clear for everyone who can see the reality -cud or anything which looks like to CUD will not assume power in any time in ethiopian history.ethiopia in its present form.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 08:41

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

Great!!! Woyane is going soon to its grave, where the democratic forces has dug for decades.

This is the result of our bitter struggle and sacrification both inside and outside the country.The minority,narrow minded and the puppets a married with inferiority complex will purish. Ethiopia no more ruled by unelected and racist government.

Some desparate and retarded tplf dogs mention Cuba as a model of survival.The case of Cuba is quite different since the government has a strong backing from the mass population. Do you think that Meles has a popular backing??? 100% No. Thus the aid cut will reduce the life span of the tyrrany and racist regime. You can go to hell!!!

Aid , however,will be going to the poor, for the poor and of course by the poor. No more serve as a political instrument for the tyrannts.Our farsighted and brilliant leaders in jail will be released sooner or later by the bitter strugle and holy sacrification of the Ethiopian peope.

Our struggle will continue as we get more international attention. Don forget that the motto ASK FOR MORE...
vICTORY IS WITH US!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 08:56

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Comment from: asteway [Visitor]

Finally, the momentum of victory is leaning in our favor as it should have been from day one.

In additon, targeted sanctions will also be applied. Slowly and surely, we are making this oppressive regime go away forever.

Victory to the wonderful people of Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 08:58

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

Those of you who argue in the name of the poor people shall reconsider your stand. Aid flow under undemocratic government structure does not warrant development and alleviating the poverty either.For the poor it does not make a difference.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:04

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Comment from: asteway [Visitor]

Getu,

You seem to have been confused. What the donors group are going to do is, instead funneling the funds through the government, as they used to do, this time the funds will go directly to the people through aid workers. So, our country is not being punished, the people will still benefit. But the oppressive regime will no longer be able to use the funds to buy weapons to kill our people.

That is victory to the people of Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:04

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

The Woyanes are getting crazy if they are going to stage fake demonestration. I fear that this demonestration may backfire to Meles regime and eventually concluded by the downfall of the racist elements. Peoples sould not miss this opportunity!!! ki..ki..ki "Betam asazenachehugne berasachihu chewata ena dula kemiten enchawetibachihualen."

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:11

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Comment from: amishta [Visitor]

Dear All, This this the indication that the violation of Human right in Ethiopia ia at a climax. You will see it will continue till the fallen. However, the poorest people might face problem but even before, the poor will get pieces after the Swiss and European Personal account is full. So, don't be surprise God will show you what is going on in the porrest country. So, this is the Yellow light to Weyane to stop & think!!! Other wise the hired military will eat them back!!! Hope so!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:14

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Comment from: Balaw [Visitor]

I afraid,the freezing aid for Ethiopia may accelerate the death penality on those CUD leaders.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:16

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Comment from: asteway [Visitor]

Addis,

Don't be fooled by the long survival of Fidel Castro. Fidel Castro has the support of his people at home. Meles is hated by all. That is why Meles can't survive long like Fidel Castro, don't even think about that!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:17

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Comment from: albi [Visitor]

I swear to GOD it is so sad to see some of my country people feel euphora when AID is cut for Ethiopia.If you were Eritreans i can understand, but fellow Ethiopians thats crazy.My brothers and sisters, the more aid is withheld, it would creat an unbelievable sufferage towards the poor. Some of you said it would cripple the government, but i do not think so.With or without aid the government could survive. A lot of people have been saying that the government been stashing millions of dollars abroad, and if that is true, the aid money is not a matter of survival for the government. My people we have to be very careful what we are we wishing for. Those of us in diaspora and the wealthy in Ethiopia would not be affected, but the 90% of our brothers and sisters, would feel it like "ERGEMAN". GENA LEGENA MENGIST GENZEBUN YEWESDEWAL BELEN DEHA YAGERACHENEN HIZB ENJERAN ANASATAW. lATER IT WOULD BE US WHO WOULD BE BLAMED BY THE POOR ETHIOPIANS NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
PEACE

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:20

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Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]

You guys having genuine common sense (true Ethiopians)

Look! comments given on above from Woyane supporters who are extremely hated by the entire population of Ethiopia but still claiming on behalf of the people.

As if the Woyane government has done tangeble development tasks in the past for Ethiopians (except Tigreans), they are opposing the current unanimous decision of the International community against the dectatorial regime. On top of that they are going to tell us despite the decision taken by the International community they would stay on power.

You see, how they are power thirsty , undemocratic and humilated.

Moreover, Woyane government officials and their supporters have charged innocent leaders of the public by treason while they have lootted and deposited in foreign banks all the money the International community granted for the poor population of Ethiopia , denying the rights of the people for making demonstration and expressing ideas/openions, inciting violence amongst citezen by promoting etninocenteric sentiments, murdering and arresting citizens without crime, delibrate desimination of infection (disease) by shaving hundred of thousands political prisoners using common razerbaldes and others.

Having seen all the above routin crimes of the state (woyane) we can conclude that there is no rule of law in the country, even it doesnot abide by the constitution developed by the Woyane itself which mainly reflects its political agenda regardless of the the interest of the population.

So, we Ethiopians should continue our struggle and be more active than before on our political participation on every aspect either locally or abroad to fasten the collapse of the regime and the death of woyane members and its supporters .

The people of Ethiopia will set free from suppression of Woyane very soon!!!!!!

GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:23

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Comment from: KEBENA [Visitor]

Good news. Another blow to the dictator and his cadres.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:25

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

It is redemption time. The hard work of our compatriots is paying off. Meles will have less funds to use for buying bullets to terrorize our people. Everybody please do what you can to help the struggle. We can join Tegbar, contribute funds to radio stations & web sites, help our noughbers in need, etc. Our action is required to bring about the change our people deserve. We shall overcome!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:27

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Comment from: Tasew [Visitor]

Hey, the government get the budget donation b/c of free market, privatization and the like that is imposed by them. Now, the government has all alternatives to get the componsation by impposing more taxes, limiting the free market, etc. On the other hand it could be good news to Ethiopians who want to have a self sufficient government that do not relyin donation. To the government, this is realy a good oportunity to leave the Fasist and Nazi money and learn to survive with out their help. As an individual we are determined to be self sufficient and save our money and invest and help our families and relatives. We will be no beggars! We understand now how the CUD and Shabia are working together to ruin Ethiopia. They will not be allowed to do so, never.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:27

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Comment from: bekagne [Visitor]

I can see that this morning a lot of Meles' regime decoys are out to spread their false propaganda on this forum.

Hey, you Meles' puppets, don't try to influence public opinion poll on this forum by pretending there are too many of you. Everybody knows that there are only very few of you in the Diaspora or at home (

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:30

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Comment from: Bekel [Visitor]

I perfer personaly peace rather than doners aid.
Peace achived also by punishing anti-peace forces like CUD in Ethiopia or abroad.In this web site I read many comments from Naftagna and CUD children.But doner countries are not move like you blindely,they knew the reality and I belive they never punish poor Ethiopians by cutting aid.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:34

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Comment from: Tigrayo [Visitor]

Great victory for all peace loving people. Unlike some TPLF supporters, I think withholding direct budgetary support is the right thing to do under such circumstance. Because this money as the name implies “Direct Budgetary Support" goes directly to Meles's pocket. Of course the World Bank will find a way for the money to reach the intended recipient i.e. the Ethiopian People through NGOs. Now the Diaspora need to persuade international banks and financial institutions to freeze bank accounts of EPRDF members.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:35

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Comment from: Bekel [Visitor]

I perfer personaly peace rather than doners aid.
Peace achived also by punishing anti-peace forces like CUD in Ethiopia or abroad.In this web site I read many comments from Naftagna and CUD children.But doner countries are not move like you blindely,they knew the reality and I belive they never punish poor Ethiopians by cutting aid.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:39

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Comment from: ETHIOPIAN [Visitor]

don't the woyanes and the puppets of the wocanes don't know that ethiopia is the kingdom of god in which all races can live together ? don't they know that amhara is not a race, because mostly all amharas, espcecially those in shoa, also haile sellassie, menelik have a strong strain of oromo blood, and also tigrayan blood within them. don't they know that amharic is not only a so called semitic language but also has some elements of cushitic languages, that means it is the esparanto language of ethiopia. you woyanes have to realize that. the west was backing the meles regime till the end, because meles was their slave, with him they tried to achieve their goal - the dismantling of the oldest independent nation in the world, not only in africa, as many want to tell us. but their "qey baira" meles got crazy, after the elections, god made him crazy...for sure. now it is impossible for the west to pamper such a crazy man, they will let him down. also i would advise some tigrayans to concentrate on our ethiopia and stop supporting the woyanes, their days are numbered.

Victory is near, GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA !!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:42

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Comment from: tam [Visitor]

i am happy about the witholding of the budget,i doesnot help us anyway because resonable proportion of the budget assigned for tigray and the remaining will be used for financing the TPLF soldiers for terriorizing and killing Amharas and Oromos.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:44

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Comment from: Belaw [Visitor]

Bekele
"I perfer personaly peace rather than doners aid.
Peace achived also by punishing anti-peace forces like CUD in Ethiopia or abroad.In this web site I read many comments from Naftagna and CUD children.But doner countries are not move like you blindely,they knew the reality and I belive they never punish poor Ethiopians by cutting aid."
thise is all true Ethiopians stand.
please go on such constructive comments.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:44

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Comment from: Tola [Visitor]

This clan leaders will stay on power until the last dollar is spent on their dry land.Independent studies shows that more than half of the money we get for development aid spent on Tigray.No aid to dictators until we get our real representatives.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:50

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

Tasew, You analyzed correctly that the govt could replace the lost revenue by increaseing taxes & tarifs. But, at it increases taxes, etc, it will expand it's sphere of opposition- the tax paying population sepecially businesses will revolt. That what we want- to increase the pressure on the goverement to force it to change its policies. That what happend to aparthide & the eastern block countris. People may suffer economically but most Ethiopians are now decided to LiVE FREE OR DIE.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:51

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Comment from: nuna [Visitor]

some of th writers in this forum seem to be getting their salery from the aid money, because they seem to be so upset. all of a sudden we are starting to see emotions.we did not see any kind of emotions from these same writers when 100s gunned down in broad day light and thousends mass jailed like animals, but now when their pocket books are hit they start calling every body shabia,we know who deals with shabia, where were in 1990s you when the whole of ethiopia crying foul when your master meles kissing every eritrean ass that walked by him.you may be in love with eprdf for one reason or another, but seeing and accepting what this government doing to its people, charging opposition members with genocide including a fourteen year old boy should make you ashamed and sick, that's ofcourse if you have any sense.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 09:52

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Comment from: Tola [Visitor]

Belew

You may prefer your own dream peace by killing our brothers and sisters,but we have no peace until we get equal representation in the country we call it ours.The aid will be spend fairly when there is a just system.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 10:03

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

We Ethiopian are doing our job...tplf dogs are barking ...good job ...continue to do that.Brave woyanes will fall under our feet. Believe me this will be happen soon.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 10:12

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Comment from: solomon [Visitor]

This is a fraction of victory,which is the result of the poeple stragle.we did not achieve our main goal yet.the fight will continue.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 10:18

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Comment from: david [Visitor]

It is very sad news for poor Ethiopians. The government will stay strong with or without foreign aid at the end cud supporters will be a big looser.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 10:28

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

Aye Tassew,
Miskin

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:00

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Comment from: Dagmawi [Visitor]

Mr David,
How can it be the CUD among the lossers.If this is your day dream, pls go ahead.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:02

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear Desta!
yes you are right!
It is a bad news.
killing indiscriminately to create terror is also a bad news.
hijacking democratic election is a very bad news.
"i am right and you are dead" approach is also the same.
Creating atmosphere where we can submerge in a civil war, just to stay in power is a bad one.
Living large, talking big, acting, and claiming progress in some part of the country, while depending in foreign aid for half of our expenditure is bad.
Can you imagine how these guys operate private businesses in the name of organizations(...blink blink)and how other businesses compete with them. in meles's circle 'musena' works on others and used as a tool seen many times. It is so bad and one of a kind.
can you imagine why we are allowed by these Albanian marxist to go that far?
can you see when they say is democracy is not good for their existence.
can you see a million people + peaceful demo in Addis (which lasts with out incident) create shockwave and frantic call to crack down the opposition using any and every means.

'The famine was good business for the Derg. A port fee of $12.60 was charged for each ton of donated grain. This replaced coffee as Ethiopia’s biggest hard currency earner. The United States paid $5 million just to have its first 400,000 tons pass inspection'
you might say wow!
I will give you homework to take some donation to the country now and see how they tax you and threat you and the aid money, good and services. They even tell you to give some of them first to certain areas of our country.
that is a very bad news.

'70,000 water-harvesting ponds and tanks were built hastily under government orders in 2004 in tigray' with out a proper study and man power (maintenance). This is how unrepresentative and stalinst government is doing with the money we begged showing the situation of our poor people.
nobody has a right to criticize the government except the usual suspects. Are you telling me that this government is doing everything right? If government of the people is unreachable it is a very bad news. who is telling meles the truth?
the court?
the parliament?
the election commission?
the military?
ministers?
local reps.?
the media?
no!
noway jose!
Individuals who are handedly beaten during the election are given (awarded) super ministerial job. why?
The money they are spending to give lifeline to meles belongs to our country not meles's. If you are not saying these bad, i am asking you to give me a klimajaro size brake.

isayas is isayas.
He is trying his best just like his cousin to stay in power. If you are expecting him to have a sound sleep thinking of our country, you are dreaming. It is meles's weakness and unbalanced move and under the table policy create this mess. 100,000's of people died for these lunatic's ego.
that is bad.
one more thing.
when we are talking about the existing government we have to finish that arguement. cud, neftegna, derg member arguement can be discussed by its merit. let us not mix the two.
I am trying to respond to you because you are one of the decent individual who is arguing merit (even though i do not agree not with your base of thought but the venue we are traveling.)
take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:10

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Comment from: Alemayehu [Visitor]

Ayte Tassew and Mr david,
It is funny to read your marvelous dream. We do not constraint from your illusion but I would like to request you to wake up see the reality."Hilm elim ...hilm elim" belu ki...ki... You can not extend the life span of the dying regime. Do you know that Eth. finance 40-60% of its budget from foreign aid. Keep dreaming the self reliance principle in the age of globalization. Had we been self sufficient we wouldnot have such kind of problem. Have you a mass base in Ethiopia? No..Nooooo. Failure...Failure...no safest spot for woyanes in Ethiopia as well as in the globe.

The fate of woyane was hinged to the westernes support but this wayout seems rockout. So we will know what we do internally by mobilizing freedom seeking brave Ethiopian people.

At the end the

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:16

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Comment from: Olana [Visitor]

When did this happen? When did the Woyanes start caring for the poor? It is really funny to see these heartless hate mongers acting like a humanitarian.

Congratulations!! to all caring Ethiopians who have worked tirelessly to bring awareness of Meles’s brutality. This is the beginning. God works on his own timetable. I hope, the donors group will give the money to private humanitarian group. As some of you mentioned; Meles will provide everything for his Agazi army by raising tax on the poor. There is no rest for all of us until this cancer is removed from our lives.

My thanks; especially the Woynes hate the most:
nazret.com
ethiomedia.com
ethiopianreview.com
fettan.com

Thank you, for working very hard day in and day out to bring us the current news from our beloved country.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:22

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Comment from: Yirgacheffee [Visitor]

Miskinoch,

This article is misleading!

The $375 million has not been cut yet! It is not final....the article should had said that the Western donors are delaying and reviewing the aid.

ANyway, the truth will come out soon! Untill then sleep tight thinking that you have succeeded in making Ethiopia even poorer!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:47

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Comment from: Negesho [Visitor]

It's sad that the Diaspora Ethiopians are pushing for the mass starvation and suffering of Ethiopia. Cuting the aid money will never change the fact on the ground. The CUD leaders and the anti-people elements will never see any light from now on. No matter what the western governments reaction would be Ethiopia will continue on it's journey for democrcay and equality.

Ethiopians in the diaspora specially that of Neftegna back ground are the one who had to be held as responsible for the mass starvation and economy hardship that the country will suffer because of their racist insistance against EPRDF. If the western governmnts and Ethiopia's development partners decided to cut the aid then just let it be. As Meles elquently put ii after all "it's their money". We shall never be held hostage by any western CUD sympthizers and neftegna hate campaigne victims.

EPRDF would do just fine without aid money. We need stand up and work together to prosper ethiopia all it takes is hard work and peace. EPRDF shall eleminate all anti-peace elements if it would like to progress in democracy and equality.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:56

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Comment from: abdu [Visitor]

congratulation cud shabia and derg specialy aliase review for this good news.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 11:57

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Comment from: bekagne [Visitor]

We Ethiopians are really very happy that the Western donors are planning to cut about 375 mil in aid to the Meles regime. This is not the end of it though. This TPLF animal will not, of course, die very easily. We still have lots of works ahead of us. It needs to be kicked hard until it dies.

Also, let's remember this is not only about withholding money or funds. It is a sign of the start of the withdrawal of Western political supports from the TPLF regime, a support on which the TPLF has been heavily relying upon for the past 14 years. In additon, if the Diaspora succeeds in having HR 4423 become a law, this also will mean a withdrawal of military support from the TPLF regime. If the TPLF does not respond to all these pressures, then the International communicty will consider kicking the TPLF regime out of office by force.

Conguratulations Ethiopians all over the world who have been working very hard to bring in democracy to our beloved country. Our struggle is starting to pay off slowly and surely. Let us continue our struggle steadfastly and with the utmost discipline.

Let us remember, our strength comes from our oneness and love for one another and for beloved nation.

God Bless Ethiopia forever!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 12:06

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Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]

I applaud the measures that the donor countries have taken by cutting aid to the dictatorial one man Government of Meles even if the measures are long overdued and it took the donors long to comprehend the Machiavellian, treacherous and the most depraved Meles. There should still be some more stringent political measures yet to be taken to convince the McCarthyist Meles who has accused the whole opposition of treason and incarcerated more than fifty thousand of its supporters under harsh condition in incommunicado to step down before he leads the region to more disaster and turmoil.This Government is a group of thugs who were deriding at spilling the blood of its own citizens by saying that it has massacred its innocent peaceful protesters for dearth of water canons and rubber bullets. This Government is the most infamous and most depraved Government Ethiopia has ever seen in its long story. This Government is the one Government in the history of Ethiopia who have worked against all the political and Economic interests of Ethiopia and its people. Even if I know that this cut of aid has a tremendous effect on the abjectly poor people of Ethiopia I believe that the donors will devise a different way of addressing poverty without involving these morally bankrupt and unpopular minority Government.
Thank you donors for finally getting the message.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 12:09

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Comment from: asteway [Visitor]

Yirgacheffee

You are right the funding has yet not been cut and is still under review. That means the Western donors are giving the Meles regime a chance to release all political prisoners, start dialogues with the oppositons and other political parties, resolve the issues related with the rigged elections of May 2005, remove its control on the media, etc, etc. If Meles is willing to do all these things, then the Western donors will not cut aid.

If Meles refuses to act democratic, then the funding will be cut. Period.

You guys, TPLF supporters, stop talking about democracy while at the same time putting people in prison and killing people for expressing their political opinion.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 12:25

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Comment from: truth [Visitor]

The truth shell set you free. Our people know the truth and fact. Melse and his supporter deny the fact and the truth. But the truth will never be hide, it will come to surface slowely. The time limit for Melse is counted. Melese and his supporter can not lie and deny facts, the truth will alway win.

Those people who are supporting Melse, open your eye and stand for the truth now before it is too late.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 12:31

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear Negesho !
I was saying let us talk things independently. If this government is bad it is bad.
If the diasporas: “neftegna”, “derg” are racist they are racist.
let us not mix the two.
You are way out of line when you say, "Diaspora Ethiopians are pushing for the mass starvation and suffering of Ethiopia."
What i am seeing in this part of the world is different:
* people are lobbying each and everybody they met to do something for the ill of our country.
* They are sending unprecedented amount of capital back home to increase the buying power of the people.
* They are spending hours and hours of their precious time creating organizations, which can tackle the social ills in our homeland.
At the same time, they are voicing the problems back home. This is not unique. It was here during hailesellassie and mengistu regime. Those regimes used to say the same ridiculous thing what you and meles's network is saying right now.
diasporas are the exact heartbeat of our country. They are people who cannot live with out this government. also, on the other end there are people who represent everybody and everything around our country. But, using diasporas as a single entity and use it as a scapegoat will not take you anywhere.
The money, even the tiny portion can do a lot of good to our poor country. but, using the donation money and implement bad policies and undemocratic action is not ok to the freedom-loving nations who are forking half of our country budget.
take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 12:34

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Comment from: gabu [Visitor]

I think the next step is the colonizers should leave and go out from the place where they are now to their place of origin ,the so called ethiopians!

victory for oppressed!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:06

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear gabu!
Stop your ho ya hoie and fight for democracy what ever it is to you.
take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:10

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Comment from: Joe [Visitor]

The problem i have with CUD is that
it is a party which looks at the past not the future, CUD hard core supporters have this cult like false admiration and misguided love for our country and it is taking us nowhere. One thing we desparately need is to break from the past and look to the future. We need to reform a new and dynamic Ethiopia.

WE LIKE TO BUILD:

1)A country which does not hide in the past.

2)We like to build a new Ethiopia where every race is proud and respected, where to love your country doesn't mean to love part of your history and map denying the right of others ethnic groups.

3)We love to build a country where people struggle not for their ethinic interset but for others.

4)We love to build a society which unerstand the sacred nature of all human race.

5)We like to cultivate intellectuals who are humble before God and their people

6) WE LIKE TO HAVE A NATION which see GOD in its history and be humble.

7) We like to have politicans and religious leaders who understand that pride has always been our greatest enemy.

GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME AND MY COUNTRY
GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME AND MY COUNTRY
GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME AND MY COUNTRY

AMEN

ABI

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:21

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Comment from: helen [Visitor]

dear"Yehuna" i am agree with you
you are a wise man,ethiopia proud of you!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:25

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

Negasho, It morally responsible to ask Ethiopian people to sacrifice for their freedom, helping & supporting dictators when they terrorize the Ethiopian people is immoral. Aparthide & communism were dismantled by sacrifices not by begging dictators. Ethiopian people can sacrifice for their freedom because it is better to die than live without freedom. .

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:43

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Comment from: EWENET [Visitor]

The truth shell set you free. Our people know the truth and fact. Melse and his supporter deny the fact and the truth. But the truth will never be hide, it will come to surface slowely. The time limit for Melse is counted. Melese and his supporter can not lie and deny facts, the truth will alway win.

Those people who are supporting Melse, open your eye and stand for the truth now before it is too late. If you think you have power and force now, that can be gone is a matter of seconds. God is always behind those people who stands for truth not killers and untruth speakers.

Truth can not be hide!
***

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 13:52

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Comment from: AkakiZeraf [Visitor]

A response to Joe:

It’s disingenuous of woyane to label the opposition at home and/or abroad as Shabea or supporters of Shabea. Ethiopians already know who the real shabea is and that is Meles and company. Who aided and abated the cession of Eritrea? Who was the only leader in Asmara that congratulated Eritreans on their independence from Ethiopia? Who refused to accept the suggestion of the London group in 1991 to accept Asab as port of Ethiopia? Who stopped Ethiopian troops from recapturing Asab and dealing a death blow to Shabea once and for all in 1998? Who betrayed the good people of Badme? Who supplied supporting evidences that allegedly proved that Badme is and has always been part of Eritrea to Shabea lawyers in the Hague? Who betrayed the good people of Tigrai after they were bombed by the mad Isayas? Who was drinking whisky in Addis palace with Issayas Afeworki ? Who was telling Ethiopians repeatedly that Issayas is the wisest person alive on earth prior to 1998? Who was calling Eritrea affectionately ‘The brotherly neighbour..’ prior to 1998? Who is ashamed of calling himself an Ethiopian? Who is distorting Ethiopian history? Who is trying to divide Ethiopians day in and day out for the last fourteen years? Who is the first to pull out of Badme even as we speak?

Ethiopians know the true face of woyane and there is no returning back to the last fourteen years. We Ethiopians are proud of our history and proud of our forefathers pride and patriotism. We are proud of our heritage and that’s been the beacon of freedom for all the nations in Africa. Like Eritreans, it’s woyane that’s having problems with their history and heritage.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:17

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Comment from: Tola [Visitor]

Most Ethiopians know foreign aid has been the spinal cord of the TPLF regime,some of you cyber tagadelies are trying to tell us all foreign aid is for us poor Ethiopians.I say don't worry about us ,we can support ourselves if you guys just leave us alone ,thank you for your "democracy " we got enough of it in the last fourteen years.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:43

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Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]

The donors decision to freez aid or budgetery support for the brutal government of Woyane is the begging of our victory against the one man and one ethinic government.

Guys, be aware that there are also so many challenges ahead to overcome and then to bring to an end this corrupted regime. So lets proceed hand in hand to make a difference for our mother land Ethiopia.

Beside, this what I would like to bring to your attention is the International community shuold be informed in advance not to give aid (money) for every local NGOs as per request. Because, from our past experience we could realize that the government has only given licence of local NGOs for those who are in feavor of the state.

Therefore, there should be critical background examiniation of the person incharge of the project and the local community entitled to get the aid should be consulted in advance in this regard.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:51

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Comment from: Ethiopian Mosses [Visitor]

The whole world is watching
Meles is sinking
Meles is sinking
The truth is winning
The evil is losing
Brhanu Nega is gaining
He will be our king(PM)
Lidatu is fading
Victory is coming
Victory is coming
Yergacheffe is lying

God bless Ethiopia!
Victory for CUD!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:55

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Comment from: solomon [Visitor]

Yirgachefe,you are right,it is the begining.we did not say it is the last victory.we are at the end of the canal.ethiopian poeple is gona out the dark age of Woyane,and see the light soon.the fight will continue.you better make up your mind and stand with the poeple before the jadgement day.time is runnig out.Meles and his associates are going down through the drain of the toilet.love will prevail over hate.CUD=LOVE,TPLF=HATE.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:56

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Comment from: Tola [Visitor]

TPLF will start soon firing people like Yirgacheff,who have been paid over time by using the aid money to do the dirty work on the cyber war.I am sorry for these people ,go get a real job guys.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 14:59

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Comment from: safu [Visitor]

Hi all,

It is incredible to see how the situation changes like unpredictable weather. Yesterday, EPDRF and its supporters were saying the west will not cut aid and they are the winners while the so-called Diaspora are losers. But today they say they will be ok and will stand on their own without foreign aid. It reminds me a dreg time slogans and chanting that said down with imperialism! Dreg, Inat hager woy mot, when they were hated and loosing power base. I see EPDRF being in the same situation. But I am sad the change is coming without well-organised opposition and with all unsolved differences and problems ticking as a time bomb. I am excited for change, but change without direction and hope for all is sad. Derg destroyed all good things and bad things from haile's time and there was no heritage left, after came the EPDRF, it destroyed all good and bad as its predecessors and now, we will be doing the same again. Ethiopians are creating generation after generation new rules and law without referring to what has been done before us. If look at any country in the world, example UK, they have a record of crime and related punishment imposed on individuals say in 1700's that they refer to give similar or close to that punishment for current crimes. Ethiopia is a nation without wisdom. That is why dictators create constitution and laws as they wish to govern the nation or bring in borrowed laws that have no cultural or indigenous value and that hurts. We are always pushed to learn all odds and it does not stay with us. We have been used as an experimental field like geanue pigs. However, I welcome the aid cut and it is a above all good news for western charities to have their fat pay increase, as the west will try to deliver the money for the so-called poor through them. I do not think it will reach the poor! The winners are western aid charities. The poor people have no access to their money. There is no transparency and if one wanted to do a project there is no way to get the funding form the western charities as it could be possible if you were in the west (UK or US). That is a big problem. Even how much fund they have into their disposal or what they suppose to be doing is not transparent to all Ethiopians. This should change. People should be given the chance to draft projects and get funding in a form of grant if they were to change their lives.
Cheers

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 15:29

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

The door for peace opens inword

I’ve lived in this house for forty years now,
Unable to experience what each room has to offer
When I wanted to be happy, the door to laughter would not open
When I wanted to be rich, the door to success was shut too
When I wanted to feel love, I’d knock, but no answer

So I was stuck in the room of self for a long time

Everyday I would venture out into the hall of hope
only to find these doors and many others still closed.
Then one day I ventured up the stairs of faith,

and came the door of Belief…

On the door was the following…
“When you seek happiness for yourself it will always elude you”
“When you seek Happiness for others, you will find it yourself”

“Pull”

So I pulled,
And lo & behold
The door opened!!

And the room was filled with Peace

I left that room a different Person,
No longer alone, nor scared
And downstairs I found a new life
All the doors would now easily open to welcome me in.

For they too opened inward,
And all I had to do was stop Pushing for me,
And Pull

For my brothers and sisters of this world
who live in this house too!!!
Bb 2005

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 15:29

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Comment from: sisay [Visitor]

you idiot,bestial,ignorant,embeciel,narrowminded,wild,down graded,inconfident,shamless,murderer,barbaric,ethnocentri/gotegna/,ramshakel,dead,grazer,ayto ayto ayawk WOYANE and its suportes,you can no longer decive the world leave alone the decent Ethiopians.now the noose is tightening around your neck and no more begging on behalf of the poor for you personal advantage.your days are numbered.you will be killed as you killed innocent Ethiopians on day light.your criminal the so called "PM"/yetarik atella /will appear ay ze hague for mass murder.this will happen soon.I don`t want to insult you by your ethnicity like you do,I can show you I am wiser than you.I know thatit is not all from tigry who committed the atricities which were committed by the direct order of the traitor Zenawi.eventhough I am angry at your merciless action I don`t want to generalise....death to you instead of those tenagers who were murdered in cold blooded killer Zenawis Agazi army.time will come soon which will cost you a double price.God will punish you soon.who are you to criticize CUDP`S leadership who represents the majority of Ethiopians and who are the best minds of Ethiopians.you ignorant woyane and its followers together have no competence as Hailu shawel alone.victory for all Ethiopian people.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 15:29

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Comment from: alem [Visitor]

It makes me sick to my stomach when I hear WOYANE saying CUD works with SHABIA. Did they forget that SHABIA help them get this power? Didn't they give Eritrea to SHABIA in return? Didn't they stop our brave soldiers from taking back our port? Anyway, you play all kinds of games on our people's life. You think life is worth nothing when you kill all these people. Please think for our people instead of your stomach.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 16:32

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Comment from: Sara [Visitor]

Congratulations CUD.Finally you have achived what you have been working for
Destroying your own Country living in the comfort of Western Countries.
However slowly but surely you will vanish and history will not forgive you for what you have done.

God save Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 16:34

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

Sara, It is you weyane foot sldiers that should be ashamed of what you do- supporting a govt which terrorizes its own people. Those who live in western country help the struggle of our people move forward by dening meles the financial & diplomatic support he gets.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 16:57

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Comment from: yalome [Visitor]

To Sara and the like. Was it ok for woyane to kill innocent Ethiopians. Destroying a country means destroying people. Killing and putting people in jail simply because they love Ethiopians and Ethiopia. Infact histroy will not forgive you and woyane supporters and sympetizers. Woyane will vanish from Ethiopia and people like you. You know who Shaibia. Meles and Woyane. They support and fought for Shaibia against Ethiopia.
go and ask your woyane who they are. Leave alone CUD. They can never be Shaebia. You are fooling yourself by calling CUD Shaebia. We are happy that the aid money will not go to woyane to kill Ethiopian. It will go directly to the the people.

Victory for the Ethiopian people!
Death for woyane and their supporters.!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:01

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Comment from: angel [Visitor]

I wonder!

All of You guys made me realize that EPRDF is really a good and wise government and CUD is just a bunch of craps including its supporters from whose english I came to realize that they are less intelectual like their leader.

I never thought Meles was so successful in screwing everybody's brain. He is successful in making you call his name all the time for good and bad. He is successful to make you feel less secure, less confident in your self, emotional, less proud, etc....

he put your human gods in jail. he will soon execute them. He will then come after you, if you still play an old game. He will then make you realize that you can not mess with him.

If you really want to win over meles, if you really need his position, let me give you an advice:

- be a good friend of him

- acknowledge when he does something good. comment when he does wrong (with good intention)

- if you have an idea, debate with him, be logical and you will win so long as you have a better idea

- then after a while, you will have his position!!!!!

Remember at first, meles got his position amongest many competeters b/c he was Smart and you have to be Smarter.............

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:04

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

IMPORTANT NEWS
any one who has a family who is hurt by novomber violence in ethiopia can sue ETHIO-MEDIA and ETHIO-REVIEW website editors,because of their violent propoganda and lies inorder to push young people to violence.
i talked to lawyer in DC,and he told me, any one can has a good case and can contact their lawyer to SUE the OWNERS of these web sites.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:05

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Comment from: angel [Visitor]

and some thing I forgot

barking is democratic right but its annoying

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:07

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Comment from: angel [Visitor]

I Wish Melese was more dectator like "Mao Tsung - Chinese leader"

Our country would have been much better.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:09

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Comment from: angel [Visitor]

Read this

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese President Hu Jintao gave no hint of a timetable for full democracy in Hong Kong on Tuesday and said any change must be gradual, after lawmakers there rejected limited election reforms backed by Beijing.

During talks with Hong Kong's visiting Chief Executive, Donald Tsang, Hu emphasised China's support for Tsang, and said Hong Kong's "one country, two systems" model was intended to let the city's people rule themselves.

"But just as in any country and any region democratic development is a gradual historical process, Hong Kong's democratic development must also be pushed forward in a stable, sure-handed and systematic way," state media quoted Hu as saying.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-12-27T151329Z_01_MCC745160_RTRUKOC_0_UK-CHINA-HONGKONG.xml&archived=False

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:10

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Comment from: Dachaasaa [Visitor]

Congradulations for those who worked hard to expose TPLF for what it is. Oromos and others have been working for this for so long and it is delighting to see their long struggle bearing fruits.

The impression of the West is changing as far as Meles is concerned. They have given him the benefit of the doubt for longer than due and that has started to change thanks to the long struggle of the Ethiopian peoples coming to more light in the May election which fascist Meles hoped to bring him more aid money.

Things turned up side down and Meles lost in his calculated move (BBC HardTalk). The more significant thing here is the change in impression of the West about dectator Meles than the amount of money withheld or its immediate effect. You usually have one shot as far as impression is concerned. The West has had not a bad impression about the tyrant Meles for various reasons. Now things have started to turn corner and this measure by the West is only the first step in the right direction. They said 'trust has broken down..." That is a good news for Ethiopian peoples and it is only a matter of time before we see Meles's back. With the struggle of our people raging, that day won't be long.

Victory to the Oppressed Peoples!!!

Dachaasaa

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:15

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Comment from: angel [Visitor]

From the above article, we can see that, to show economic development that the world has never seen (as China did), Democracy is not a precondition.........

1. when stupid people get in the way to mess things up? kill them

2. When they speak against national interest, arrest them

3. when they try to destroy peace? kick them

4. when they Cry here and there? Ignore them

Bad news? Meles is not doing all the above things as he was supposed to do and he need some lesson from CHINA on how to arrest, kill, and slap traitors, peace disturbers, racist and radical activists......

lets all of us contribute money and Send Meles to Chine for Political Study so that he become more dictator and more Successful

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:15

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Comment from: Tom [Visitor]

No sweat, Ethiopia don't get nothing anyway. meles and his gangstas groove on the money. The only gift/help we need from the west is freedom. Peace, man. Less money means less scotch for the gangstas at the menelik palace. The poor is starving no matter what. Peace, man.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:18

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Comment from: Yoamn [Visitor]

angel, You can have what ever dictotor you wish but the Ethiopian people are saying it is enough of dictotorship. One thing you forgot, Meles came to power by killing his friends. But his days of disgracefuless is approching. He will face what Hitler, Mousolini, Chaucescu (Rumania) & others faced.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:19

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Comment from: Gudissa Gutu [Visitor]

Hey Engel, I don't think you are Angel, you must be a junk Devil. How come you compare unducated EPRDF leaders with CUD leaders. Most of EPRDF leaders expect one or two including the evil Meles never finished College. Meles has only one lyer big mouth, he knows how to lie, and decive people. I can compare it with formers Ugandian leader Edamin Dada. Like the so called Oromian leader ABBA DULA(Minasie Tekelgiorgis) is a six grade graduate trying to lead more than half of the Ethiopian population. So Engel, I tell you don't open your mouth like a dead fish. May be it is a good idea to thin twice before speak. All the CUD leaders are smart, gentle, graceful, but the EPRDF leaders are unduacted, traders, killers, loosers, gridy, selfish animals. I don't even comapre them with animals, just they are devils----Devil knows how to kill and destroy.

Victory For peace loving people.
Peace for Ethiopia!
Down for EPRDF!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:21

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear angel!
what did you get after breakfast. Definately it has a lot of impact on you. I thought you are reasonable enough to see things clearly from the previous blogging point. Boy I was wrong, you remind me of somebody who used to bring his 'asher basher' in a format exactly like yours.
get a grip and stop acting as an align who does not have interest in the things going on in our country.
I think i have to say take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 17:24

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear all!
You have to see the angle meles's network are coming with different names like Xir.
'sheber' is the name of the game in their camp right now.
We have to restrain our self not to get into their trap.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:02

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Comment from: efrem [Visitor]

all the money we were given from donors was spend by narrow mind and greedy woyanes on thier dry land and tigray people's poket,so we dont care as long as the donation is not for our country, anyways its for tigray not for ethiopia, lelaw sidema tigray tilma new yenesu alama

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:05

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Comment from: lukhukhu [Visitor]

You will be all surprise in tow days you will hear the donors changed thier mind and they will continue thier genrosity. only one phone call required they will realize how meles gov is democratic

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:08

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

Bereket said we d,want aid
we can bygg our land by on people
I agree

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:17

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Comment from: abebe boke [Visitor]

To At Tye W/Semayat
In Ontario and Alberta Canada you were preaching that "we have to kill this government by doing sanction in case of aid and other economical destruction". The way how you guys doing not different than "don't borrow fire to Tigriyans nieboughrs". You don't believe on minorities leadership. At this moment you are trying to hurt the people of our country who is suffering of poverty. Let me tell you the truth what ever you do or what ever you dig you and CUD both very childish kinds of people. You said I am not any party member so why you are preaching about CUD? As I guessed you are one of the worst criminal of the earth. I hope you are done in west or if you are going back you well come. You bustard criminal of our poor people. You will see the aid will never stop from our poor people.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:36

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Comment from: tazabe [Visitor]

i'm sorry to all weyane supporter shame on u all supporters please open ur eya u r still support the killer of u r brother and sister shame may be u will ge some benfit fom the blood suker weyane sorry 4 all of u weyane supporetr watch every day u r brother and sistr is death in ethiopia please b4 desition opean u r mind wherever u can say neftnga ,derge etc thinking future no past all the time united ethiopia not divided ethiopya like weyane supporter God BLESS ETHIOPYAWEYAN ANDE UNITED PEOPLE BLESS ETHIOPYA

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:43

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Comment from: BB [Visitor]

tulu,
What the hell are you trying to say?
Why don't you give up? you are one big idiot.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:43

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Comment from: BB [Visitor]

Angel:
I hope you are being sarcastic towards Meles. If not, you’re pathetic. I feel sorry for you.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 18:57

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Comment from: Tom [Visitor]

Ethiopia will survive.

We survived worse historical obstacles, according to my dad. Between the the takeover of Yukuno Amlak and making a point of reconnecting himself with the Axumites and the real axumite Kingdoms, Ethiopia has seen a succession of leaders from Queen Gudit to king Lalibella. These were really tough times. Ethiopia woulda freaked out and disintegrated during those times. Or Ethios mightave gone their separate ways during the rule of the princes until Theodros forced their behinds together under a central government. You know why they stayed together even though there was no central authority before Theodros? Because we are freaking the same peeps. Therefore a man who looks like a goat, who quacks like a duck, with a stained bloodline will not break us apart. Ras Alula, Atse Yohanes, Menelik, Theodros, HaileSelassie were way way brighter and smarter than a stutter with a runny nose(that's a fact, his highschool buddies attest to that) He always had a runny nose at highschool(general Winget.) As a result kids bullied him and nicknamed him "niftam." Even at that moment he used to organise Tigre boys and make everything about ethnic. The bullying, he considered it a result of his minority status, thus developing this inferiority complex. No need to hate Amharas just coz you got a runny nose, unless some Amhara kid was poking your nonexistent nose constantly. You see what I am sayin. Ethiopia survived bigger challenges. Meles Zenawi is too insignificant compared to Ethios history. We shall prevail. My country is not going to be destroyd by a boy who couldn't get over his weak social skills. Meles Zenawi is a retard. And anyone who works for him is idiot coward.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:08

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

free all opposition leaders including seye and the likes.
let us think big and peace. Let us get rid of jungle mentality: my way or....

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:10

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

let us fight for the free press and the release of its editors. free press is targeted by the people who can not stand the truth.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:12

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Comment from: Hebere Behair [Visitor]

My understanding is that the World Bank intention is not to cancel $375 Million grant altogether but to find an alternate method of disbursement that ensures the proper utilization of this money for the targeted purpose. If that is the case then World Bank’s decision can serve a dual purpose, and it should be welcomed by all who care about Ethiopia and Ethiopians. However, to the disappointment of many, some quarters in the Diaspora have been advocating for aid cancellation and imposition of an economic embargo on Ethiopia categorically. Speaking from an Ethiopian point of view: that is a betrayal to Millions of Ethiopians; brutally murderous and no different than a crime against humanity. I say this because the majority of the Ethiopian People that I know struggle to survive the day, struggle not to go to bed with an empty stomach, suffer from deadly diseases with no medication and care or assistance, and struggle with the savage and uncompromising nature of cyclic and seasonal drought constantly. The Ethiopian People that I know does not have the comfort to permit anyone to act on their behalf in blocking the life saving assistance offered to them by humanitarians and donor countries. The Ethiopian people that I know, is not in the business of slashing their own throat by refusing help in this unfortunate and difficult time. Actually, we are all grateful and very appreciative of those helping hands which are keeping millions of people alive. The reduction of aid to Ethiopia more than anything hurts the millions of impoverished Ethiopians. Do not forget that we are one of the poorest countries in the world where hundreds thousands of people had died because of hunger in the past and at present we still have millions of people who totally depend on foreign aid. The actions we take at this moment should not target or affect millions of Ethiopians who unlike us in the Diaspora have other immediate priorities and needs for survival, which are beyond their ability and control. Democracy shall be a mutual struggle by the people for the people, and not against the people’s interest. The fact is that at this moment none of us, as responsible Ethiopian citizens, are capable of solving the immediate need and suffering of millions of our own people without depending on the help and assistance of the international community. This is no joke! It is a life and death alternative for millions of Ethiopians. It should be a serious concern to all of us if we really care to the well being of our people. So, why are we swearing in their name, the millions of Ethiopians name in a very irresponsible and harmful way? Is that ok for the rest of us to allow a few swear in the name of millions of Ethiopians, in a very irresponsible and harmful way by effectively undermining the priorities, needs and above all well being of 77.4 million Ethiopians. I strongly believe that there still are other effective ways to struggle for democracy without strangling millions of extremely poor people and bleeding our own country to death. The way forward to solve the Ethiopian crisis comes through reconciliation and continuous dialogue with a clear understanding of the political topography of Ethiopia, by listening and considering the various demands of the people without any limitations, by seeking and forming a genuine and representative collision, by sharing power and resources equitably and proportionally.
Peace!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:20

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

BB
We Ethiopian are doing our job ..
with EPRDF y, BB and shapias
DERGS ,,,,,,,,

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:25

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Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]

You woyane pupets donot you feel shame when you mention about Derg, ESEPA at this critical time. All of them are past histories.

The current Derg is woyane and ESEPA is EPRDF, because you are armed and killing innocent citezens on the streets without any crime as your predecessors did.

Honestly speaking the people opposing woyanes at present are not members of the former Derg or ESEPA, they have already gone once and for all, but who inreality has confronted and condemned woyane are mostly youths under the age of 20 and who are born by this regime. Becuse they are very desperate about thier futurity and they donot have trust on the government.

Therefore to bring about change and enjoys freedom they are determiined to pay any scrification required; at the same time donot forget that the rest of the population are behind their children.

So you Woyane Cadres and Soldiers inorder to guarantee your survival in Ethiopia after the downfall of Melles Zenawi, you need change your mind and stand beside the mass of the population at this last moment.

Victory against EPRDF is inevitable.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:28

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

yeuna
Will y tell as the differens eseye
and CDU

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:32

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

Defaru
I. am sorry to all DERGES
y are the loser

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:37

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear tulu!
isayas is meles's cousin and cud is meles's worest night mare.
take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:44

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

FINAL!
The aid to so called government ic cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS!!!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:54

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Comment from: Demelash [Visitor]

Somewhat satisfying!!! But way to go. We will let the truth about Meless and his puppet.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 19:55

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Comment from: dee [Visitor]

Hey this is the first blow to this idiot fascist ditator,rather invador, the worst which will once and for all eliminate him from that land is yet to come!!!!our effort will go on as our heros back home struggle for freedom. the nightmare of agazi will be burried very soon and the people of Ethiopia will enjoy the freedom that almost everybody in the world is enjoying. 16th century has gonne br. males. you better wake up. we have have heard what your so calle d advisor,Berket, on voa today. his response remined me that he is living on other planet.males made another mistake putting him as an advisor.
at the end i can't explain my excitement on the decision of the donners to give the money direct to the people rather than to males. shame on you the agazi pm.shame on you for putting the gratest country on this. don't worry , the scolars and the scientist who are in jail now know how to put our country back in shape.
ETHIOPIA WILL PREVAIL.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:30

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Comment from: Selam Ethiopia [Visitor]

We don’t need to guess or even envision what a weak central government in today’s Ethiopia foretells. Believe me; it won't be to the best interest of any one, even for those who advocate, day and night, for it to happen. The end result of this risky game will be a divided and failed Ethiopia; an Ethiopia fragemented in to four or more pieces of tiny states. If you are afraid to accept this fact today, then tomorrow you will find yourself and nobody to blame for your irresponsible and unwise misdeeds. God save us from the evils of hate and sectarian politics looming over our country. Give us the true wisdom and guide us through the right path out of this mess. Amen!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:37

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Comment from: STI [Visitor]

This is quite alright fellow. What the government needs to do is stop building roads Like the ring road, and health care facilities period.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:39

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Comment from: Robele [Visitor]

Dear Mamo,
One big question for you.
Do you really think that those desperate and justice-seeking youngsters in the slums of addis browsed Ethiomedia and Ethiopian review web sites before they took it to the streets? Come to your mind bro! Take your time and think for a while before you say or do something out of blind hatred.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:45

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

GRACE:
As in Christianity, there is "Forget and forgiveness" in politics. whether we like it or not EPRP is part of the equation in the Ethiopian politics. We just have to learn how to deal with it? From the current CUDP crisis, being too emotional and going it alone is not worth it? I hope we learn from our mistakes? At least we need to have the tolerance for other views? May be we ought to adapt a policy to agree when there is disagreement & work together even when conditions are not favorable. According to your view, after all,
"Ethiopia is in the hands of the almighty GOD. Our part is to trust in him. What will happen next is we don't know. Everything about Ethiopia is according to His time, will and way. Trust in the LORD. "
We all should feel safe. For Meles and the Weyanes, however, resistance to his tyrannical rule is treason punishable by death. Nevertheless, one of the founding fathers of American democracy, Thomas Jefferson, disagrees with him. According to Jefferson, “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.” Ethiopians have been obeying God by putting resistance to succeeding tyrants for far too long. As God created man in His own image, no one has a right to take way the liberty of other fellow creatures. Tyranny is an attempt to violate the inalienable and natural rights God has given to all human beings. God never created prisoners, detainees, hostages, victims, slaves and slave masters. He created us all free and equal with the inherent qualities of other human beings. Despotism is rather treason not only against humanity but also against Almighty God…."
Of course arm struggle is not the only venue. We Ethiopians, however, are basically living in a "Police State." For too long, our call for peace and reconciliation has landed on Meles and the Weyanes deaf ears. When peace and reconciliation fail, however, the choice becomes force and that is exactly what Ethiopians are demanding from it's heroic and patriotic children. The only way out is talk or face the popular revolt or armed struggle. God willing we shall prevail.
God Bless Ethiopia.

P. S: Refer to the following posted definition on "Guerrilla Warfare."

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:49

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Guerrilla Warfare:

An aspect of popular warfare that is strategically defensive and tactically aggressive. Guerrilla warfare is strategically defensive because it spawns under a repressive government in defense of the interests of workers/peasants, or forms in the interests of national liberation against an occupying enemy force. It is tactically aggressive because its aim is to overthrow the repressive government, or force the withdrawal of an occupying army. Guerrilla warfare commonly begins spontaneously, but may be used as a means of revolutionary struggle.

Guerrilla warfare is organized and carefully planned combat; commonly employed in conjunction with conventional warfare tactics. Although units operate independently, they have a common political objective (overthrow the existing government, defeat occupying armies, etc.) linked to the aspirations of the people. Guerrilla warfare is commonly referred to as "political war"; all warfare, however, is political. When warfare is not fought on behalf of an existing government, then it is fought to establish a certain government, by a military that has political bodies/interests of some kind guiding its objectives in war. Guerrilla warfare is that type of warfare that represents the interests of an oppressed peoples.

The survival of guerrilla warfare is entirely dependent upon the support of the oppressed population, who provide soldiers for combat, food, shelter, intelligence, medical supplies, etc.; while the guerrilla soldier usually acquires their armament and equipment from the enemy or the arms market. Thus it has been constantly stressed by guerrilla leaders that the guerrilla soldier must: 1) establish and maintain exemplary relations among the people; 2) inspire the people with the ideal which they fight for; 3) vigilantly guard to ensure the ideal of liberation is forever anchored to the revolutionary cause, all of which depend on good communication. Thus the battle of information warfare is one of the most important battles the guerrilla soldier will fight. Without this battle won, the umbilical cord between the guerrilla fighters and the population will be severed, and the revolution will wither and die.

In combination with popular support, the success of guerrilla warfare is dependent on a united political objective and military command (ex. Cuban revolution). Guerrillas are formed from the mass of the population, something that was lucidly recognized by Mao in his organizational structure, establishing a command structure from the bottom up. With the foundation and strength of command in a diversified base, though overall instructions and tactical plans came from the top, the strength and continued existence of guerrilla warfare was insured even when top military leaders were assassinated.

Rural/Urban Warfare: The type of warfare a guerrilla engages in depends on the environment where popular support is located. If guerrilla support is among the peasantry/farmers, then rural guerrilla warfare is practiced; if support is among the working-class, then urban guerrilla warfare is the method. When their exists support among both workers and peasants/farmers, a double front of rural and urban guerrilla warfare may be established.

Protection for the guerrilla means freedom of movement and deceiving the enemy. Such protection is manifested through their environment and information networks; whether the dense jungle or concrete buildings, word-of-mouth or satellite networks. Methods of protection are as various and constantly shifting as the environment the guerrilla lives. In Cuba, guerrillas used the densely forested mountains as their area of movement; while the Vietnamese used both the jungle and a brilliant system of underground tunnels. Urban guerrillas have an even greater variety of options, everywhere from subway and sewer systems to buildings and busy streets of all types.

Guerrilla Warfare Tactics: The oldest formulation of basic guerrilla tactics can be found in: Sun Tzu's Art of War. Guerrilla warfare tactics rely on inexhaustible, primarily psychological, harassment (attacking the enemy by causing defection, fear, political and social pressures within its ranks, etc.), accomplished by extremely subtle, flexible, and improvised tactics designed to overextend the resources of the enemy. The time guerrilla warfare gains can be critical for the development of a conventional army to confront the enemy (Mao in China) or to divide and conquer the enemy psychologically (ex. Vietnamese guerrillas). Above all of course, guerrilla tactics adhere to the principles of survival and success (as mentioned above).

Anti-Terrorism: Guerrilla warfare is entirely opposed to terrorism, but degenerated and weak guerrillas may resort to terrorist tactics. The very nature of terrorism is opposite of popular support; such is the reason why it is reverted to by degenerate and isolated soldiers. Terrorism seeks by violent action, planed by a small group or single individual, to instill fear and terror in the masses and in the government through public bombings (guerrillas attack military, not civilian, targets). Since the birth of terrorism, its end result is alienation of workers, an increasingly repressive government, and the destruction of revolutionary organizations, leaving the mass of the population unprotected by a now sharper and more brutal government.

Combating the Guerrilla: The principal method imperialist and local armies employ to combat guerrilla warfare is through attacking the civilian population. The imperialist method can be divided into direct and indirect methods.(see Sun-Tzu )

Direct assault against guerrillas is commonly aerial attack with the aim of destroying urban centers, communications, transportation, etc (US in Vietnam). This form of direct assault has its own indirect method – with the aim of assassinating guerrilla leader's, impersonating guerrilla soldiers, and actually helping villagers/workers in strategic areas/districts with social projects to bring them on the side of the imperialists, gathering information, etc. – enacted by various special forces units.

Indirect assault against guerrillas is through psychological operations conveyed through all existing means of communication: air drops of propaganda leaflets, books, pamphlets, etc.; radio; television; news reporting manipulation, etc. The aim of psychological operations (like all warfare) is deception, enacted by reducing morale and guerrilla combat efficiency, promoting defection, and providing misinformation on imperialist movements/objectives. Thus the first task of psychological operations is to completely understand their enemy: what they believe in, what motivates the population, etc. The basic themes of enemy propaganda, heavily conveyed through cultural/historical references, are: the superior strength of the imperialist army, the inferiority and savagery of guerrilla fighting, that defectors are heroes who will be treated very well, guerrillas and their compatriots will be tortured, and that true victory lies within the [puppet] government which "really" supports the aspirations of the people. Psychological operations also use a form of direct tactics which aim to destroy political unity through introducing imposters to emphasize differences in the guerrilla movement, and make extravagant bribes for certain political parties to disrupt unity and drag the people away from struggle. (U.S. methods in Guatemala, Argentina, Panama, etc.)

In order for a guerrilla army to effectively combat both methods, the guerrillas most important objective is to insure complete and total integration/solidarity with the people of the country, both politically and militarily.

Synonyms: Guerrillas are also called partisans, insurgents, and freedom fighters.

Historic Origins: The origin of the English term for guerrilla warfare comes from the Peninsular War (1808-14), where Spanish guerrillas crushed Napoleons' occupying armies – in Spanish guerra means "war"; the tactics of the Spanish were so successful, that the name stuck.

Guerrilla warfare has been employed as early as conventional warfare existed. Recorded acts of guerrilla warfare first occurred in around 500 B.C.E. against the Persian King Darius; in around 350 B.C.E. against Alexander the great; in 218 B.C.E. against Hannibal; and later against the Roman republic by Spanish guerrilla fighters who fought against the Romans for over 200 years. Guerrilla tactics are sometimes attributed to various "barbarian hordes", while of course conventional tactics can also be attributed to "barbarian hordes" – tactics, however, represent the form of an army, not the content. While guerrilla fighting may resemble the form of some "barabarian hordes", their content is very different – the guerrilla fighter is someone who is organized and pursues a particular political objective, and who is fighting a defensive war.

Guerrilla warfare was employed by Arabs in defense against the Christian Holy Wars (Crusades), and also by the countrymen of Ireland after the Norman invasion in the 12th century. Kublai Khan's Mongolian army withdrew from its occupation of Vietnam after Tran Hung Dao's successful implementation of guerrilla warfare. Guerrilla fighters in Welsh shook the foundation of King Edward I's army, but were unsuccessful without conventional forces; while in the North the guerrilla tactics of William Wallace, and the long and brilliant combination of guerrilla and conventional warfare by Robert Bruce decimated the English army and gained Scotland independence. A century later, during the Hundred Years War between England and France, Bertrand du Guesclin led a guerrilla army to crush English occupation of France almost single-handedly.

With the advent of the matchlock rifle in around 1450, however, guerrilla tactics began subsiding to the power of conventional warfare. The technology, supply, and training needed to use rifles could only be supplied by a large government; and moreover, guerrilla tactics could not operate with the clumsy, imprecise, and bulky weapons. Guerrilla fighters could not put to serious use these new weapons and so were decimated by them when they tried. One of the most well-known examples of this is the mass genocide of the Native Indians of North, Central, and South America, who unsuccessfully employed guerrilla tactics primarily using bows and arrows against an enemy with rifles and cannons (though the tremendous role of disease should not be underestimated as the worst aspect of their European enemies).

Nearly three centuries later, by around 1750, guerrilla fighters began to employ rifles – thanks to the advent of the flintlock musket. The flintlock greatly increased the rate of fire, reliability, and ease-of-use of the rifle, making it better suited to guerrilla tactics of shooting and moving. In conventional warfare, the flintlock was a safer weapon, which allowed the formation of infantry "lines" – instead of needing at least a yard between firing soldiers using the matchlock rifle, the flintlock allowed soldiers to stand shoulder to shoulder, creating a "wall of fire". While the line of fire proved extremely effective in raw power, maintaining the line of soldiers proved difficult for commanders, and would soon be exploited by guerrilla forces.

Used in conjunction with conventional warfare, guerrilla units operated in the first two Sicilian wars (1740-45) and later in the Seven Years War (1756-63), on the side of Austria against Prussia. American workers employed guerrilla tactics in their first revolutionary war, conclusively demonstrating the inferiority of the line of fire tactics dominant throughout the British army. The line was unable to effectively combat guerrilla resistance, as the guerrillas came from all directions, usually under the cover of the environment.

In 1812, during Napoleon's failed conquest and retreat from Russia, Russian peasant guerrillas combined with mounted Cossacks to continually harass, demoralize and inflict tens of thousands of additional casualties. Guerrilla warfare was practiced to some extent in the colonized nations of India, Algeria, Mexico, China, Morocco, Burma, New Zealand, and the Balkans, but lacked cohesive unity and a united political agenda within its own population to be effective. Native American Indians in North America galiantly employed guerrilla warfare in defense of their land, their culture, and their people – but again lacked an effective political unity, sometimes fighting against themselves. In the Boer War (1899-1902), guerrillas in South Africa held off the powerful British army for over two years, until, not having any conventional forces, the British overwhelmed the guerrillas. In the 1890s Cuban guerrillas led by Jose Marti fought their Spanish overseers, but the United States intervened to ensure that the U.S., not Spain, had control over Cuba and its people. Deceiving the Cuban people that the U.S. was acting in their interests, Cuba and the U.S. together defeated Spain, while the Cuban people donned the new yoke of U.S. imperialism for almost 50 years, until guerrillas would rise up again, to overthrow their new masters.

In the 20th-century, in the 1916 Easter Rising, led in part by James Connolly, the Irish Republican Army engaged in guerrilla warfare that, in partial success, established a partition of Ireland in 1921. The IRA, however, would later degrade to terrorism; a tactic with a few positive results for over 80 years. In 1927, with Japanese imperialist forces occupying China, Mao Zedong led a 22 year war of liberation, that successfully combined guerrilla tactics with conventional warfare to remove Japanese imperialists from China, and later helped in the struggle for socialism against the nationalists. In 1937, Mao wrote his work On Guerrilla Warfare, summarizing his experience.

Throughout World War II, Communists throughout those nations that had been invaded by the Nazi or Japanese armies established resistance forces who employed guerrilla warfare tactics – in conjunction with the conventional forces of the Allied nations – to achieve victory; most notable were the Chinese guerrillas, and French and Belgian maquis.

The Yugoslav Communist lead Partisans were among the most successful of all communist lead guerrilla movements, having liberated almost all of Yugoslavia prior to the German surrender in 1945. Lead by Slovenian/Croatian leader, Tito Broz, the Partisans overcame centuries of national/religious antagonisms through tying up nearly nine German divisions. Their political platform defined themselves as fighting not only for national liberation from the Nazi occupier, but for socialist revolution, something that brought the Partisans into conflict with Stalin's Russia, who preferred a more low-key, simple national liberation approach that would not upset the Western Allies. One aspect of the Partisan struggle was the formation of "Prolaterian Shock Brigades", made up of the most politically advanced workers, members of the Yugoslav Communist Party, often from the same factory, who acted as shock-troops for the revolution, taking on the most difficult tasks or attacking the most fortified Nazi positions.

Following the success of the Chinese revolution in 1949, Cuban revolutionary fighters were embraced by the peasants and workers of Cuba, and united together to overthrow the Batista dictatorship relying entirely on guerrilla tactics. This revolution led to guerrilla campaign's throughout Latin America and in some places Africa, none of which were successful without conventional forces. Shortly five years later, however, the guerrilla forces of Ho Chi Minh forced the French army to release its stranglehold over Indochina. Later invaded by the U.S., Vietnam successfully dealt a catastrophic blow to the U.S. military, using solely guerrilla forces, to defeat the most powerful military in the world – a military with a budget 20 times greater than the entire GNP of the Vietnamese nation.

Later, Muslim guerrillas (the mujahideen) in a decade-long battle defeated Soviet imperialism in Afghanistan, but lacking political unity, accelerated by unbalanced U.S. intervention on the side of various factions, the nation still was unable to claim for itself victory well until the beginning of the 21st century with the establishment of the repressive Taleban. At the end of the 20th century, guerrilla warfare had been practiced throughout the nations exploited by imperialism (the so-called "Third World"); in Peru, Colombia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Thailand, Sri Lanka, India, Morocco, Angola, and Mozambique.

Modern Tactical Assessments: With the material impossibility of building a conventional army approaching anywhere near as powerful as the strongest imperialist armies, i.e. the U.S. Military, whose yearly budget is over $300 billion (2000) (more than the nation even spends on all education), many have no choice but to resort to guerilla war. Conventional forces who have opposed the U.S. like Iraq (1990) have been ruthlessly and easily crushed, while guerillas like those in Somalia (1993) achieved success. In 2001, the U.S. military has begun a transformation of priorities, so that it can better combat guerilla fighters in the future.

Further Reading: Revolutionary Spain, by Karl Marx; Guerrilla Warfare, by Vladimir Lenin; On Guerrilla Warfare, by Mao Zedong; Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla, by Carlos Marighella; Guerrillaism and the regular army by Leon Trotsky, Do We Need Guerrillas? (Trotsky), Overcoming guerrilla-ism (Trotsky).

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:51

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Dear Ethiopians:
CAN EPRP BREAK IT'S SILENCE?
ELF, EPRP and TPLF are the root causes of current Ethiopian crisis and all evils in Ethiopia. Back in the late 1970's, the Ethiopian people, especially, the younger generation was demanding EPRP to arm them as part of the EPRA. A sort of "RED Army," that was supposedly to start some where in the Ethiopian country side. Later, we found out that place was Asimba. An imaginary, place supposedly in the Tigryan country side, where Meles and the Weyanes were born.
The national, call to be armed by EPRP, was never properly addressed nor responded by EPRP. In stead, the Ethiopian Revolutionary Party (EPRP) decide to wage urban guerilla warfare. This move was opposed by many seasoned politicians & the public. This historical error was caused by EPRP party officials, who were Tigryans and Eriterians at that time. The consequence of this misguided party policy was "RED & White Terror," in which thousands of Ethiopians killed unnessarily.
The question is HAS EPRP LEARN FROM IT'S PAST MISTAKES? If so CAN IT JOINE THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE STRUGGLE AGAINST IT'S FORMER ALLIES? OR WILL REMAIN SILENT AS THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE CONTINUE TO SUFFER IN THE HANDS OF TPLF AND EPRDF?
For the past 15 years, EPRP has been a destructive force in the struggle against TPLF and EPRDF. Recently, EPRP party officials have chosen not to see evil, hear evil, touch evil and talk evil? We Ethiopians, however, prefer and invite EPRP's active involvement in Ethiopian politics. We need their guide and leadership? They have the party discipline and experience, which are crucially needed at this difficult time.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:52

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Dear Ethiopians:
I.FACTS.
The West Perfer Silence:
-The whole world knows that Ethiopia is the worst place since Melese Zenawi and TPLF/EPRDF came to power with the blessing of America and Europe.
-The Bush Administration knows what was going on and what is taking place currently in Ethiopia.
-Europeans in general and the Americans in particular know deep in their heart that these is a regime they created to destroy Ethiopia and its civilization. They also know that this is 100% Tigryan Ethnic based government. They know that Melese's regime is mercilesly killing, arresting, torturing innocent citizens, just because of their political differences.
II. WHAT IS NEXT TO BE DONE?
-Condemn all past ills and bring all Ethiopians to one platform and fight the evil international conspiracy to destroy Ethiopia.
-Recognize the fact that we Ethiopians are alone and it is up to us to be united and confront Melese and Tigryans? America and Europe, do not want people based government in Ethiopia. They want devided and weak Ethiopia.
-It is time to have a new strategy to overthrow this regime. The current regime belives in force and should be removed by force?
Meles and the Weyanes are not ready to relinquish power peacefully. Neither, we do expect good to come out of the savage Administration of Meles. It is high time for all Ethiopians to make Meles, TPLF and all EPRDF members accountable for all deaths and destructions in Ethiopia. We are basically living in a "Police State."
For too long, our call for peace and reconciliation has landed on Meles and the Weyanes deaf ears. When peace and reconciliation fail, however, the choice becomes force and that is exactly what Ethiopians are demanding from it's heroic and patriotic children. The only way out is talk or face the popular revolt or armed struggle. God willing we shall prevail. I am calling all Ethiopians to be prepared for a long protracted armed struggle. Indeed, There is a "Higher Call" for every Ethiopians?
Let's stop the talk and be involved? Can't we take out Meles? At least let's get into his immediate families and properties? what seems to be the problem to take out Meles and a few key EPRDF/TPLF leaders? where is our commitment for Ethiopia? If the Palestinians, and the Iraqi people do it we all should be willing to be "Semaitate or Martyrs for beloved Ethiopia?" God is always on the side of United Ethiopia.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 20:55

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Dear Ethiopians:
CAN EPRP BREAK IT'S SILENCE?
ELF, EPRP and TPLF are the root causes of current Ethiopian crisis and all evils in Ethiopia. Back in the late 1970's, the Ethiopian people, especially, the younger generation was demanding EPRP to arm them as part of the EPRA. A sort of "RED Army," that was supposedly to start some where in the Ethiopian country side. Later, we found out that place was Asimba. An imaginary, place supposedly in the Tigryan country side, where Meles and the Weyanes were born.
The national, call to be armed by EPRP, was never properly addressed nor responded by EPRP. In stead, the Ethiopian Revolutionary Party (EPRP) decide to wage urban guerilla warfare. This move was opposed by many seasoned politicians & the public. This historical error was caused by EPRP party officials, who were Tigryans and Eriterians at that time. The consequence of this misguided party policy was "RED & White Terror," in which thousands of Ethiopians killed unnessarily.
The question is HAS EPRP LEARN FROM IT'S PAST MISTAKES? If so CAN IT JOINE THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE STRUGGLE AGAINST IT'S FORMER ALLIES? OR WILL REMAIN SILENT AS THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE CONTINUE TO SUFFER IN THE HANDS OF TPLF AND EPRDF?
For the past 15 years, EPRP has been a destructive force in the struggle against TPLF and EPRDF. Recently, EPRP party officials have chosen not to see evil, hear evil, touch evil and talk evil? We Ethiopians, however, prefer and invite EPRP's active involvement in Ethiopian politics. We need their guide and leadership? They have the party discipline and experience, which are crucially needed at this difficult time.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 21:00

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

I also feel EPRP is sighlet in our current struggle. Further more I heard from different sources that it is becoming distructive in many places. Is EPRP for EPRP, it's own ego or for Ethiopia/

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 21:17

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Comment from: yemererew [Visitor]

we've got reports of agazi snnipers moving around central addis wednsday noon.once again there is a big trouble near abinet highschool where students refuse to join othe unjnown "student like" people in side theire compound.
clashes broke out,shootings heard and mass arrests and taken to unspecified location.
the situation seems ugly.more and more people are affected by the violence everyday.
It seems their is no guarantee for everybody to live in security.
the peoples wish demonstrate their opposition to ongoing poorgovernance
is brutually suppressed by force.
the you never seem to get a drop from the election.
the youth is the most marginalized and not benefitted from the regime in power.

Certainly God is with the steadfast!
Inn Allah Mea Asuabreen!
Bergit Geta ketagashoch gar naw!
Waqayoti b

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:28

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Comment from: abebe boke [Visitor]

It looks something when you see about CUD on media,but it is nothing.
Nefteghas are forgetting what they did to us and now they are saying our country is in a big terrible. It's lie,not the country, but the CUD is in terrible. What is the exact question of CUD?
Some examples which is mentioned in this tabloid.
Our Minilik throne.
Our leadership.
We know how to lead this country.
My culture, my language, my history, and me me me me me.
Who hec they are? Who gave this cuntry for them? Woff zerash hulla. Ager yellew sew benore neftegna bicha new.
Minilik,Haile, Derg, or the new cud...don't expect from egg,larva, pupa and adult.All are the same blood suckers who sucked our people blood earlier and now they are trying to stop aid for our country, the truth must be this. The aid must be stopped from neftegna region not from the rest of the country.
The government doing some mistakes, still they are to late to filtrate those the Derg and Haile sillasie remaines.They should clear it as soon as possible. Another should be the neftegna region aid and budget must be stopped unless they stop hate rate from other groups.

mohamed: yemayadig lig arr yibezawal.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:37

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Comment from: Tolosa [Visitor]

This is ONLY the first step!!!!

The real punishment to WOAYANIE is coming from another diretion. Woaynies day is numbered.

God Bless Mother Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:37

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Comment from: Baqala [Visitor]

Analysts say, based on the current situation, Meles Zenawi’s government MAY HAVE enough money to run his government only for four to six months.
Local experts are indicating that the EPRDF government is running into extreme financial break as the economy drastically slowing down and foreign resources dried up.

Reports also indicated that the government continues to make a budget cuts on all subsidized purchases. The government of Meles Zenawi has instructed factories and business that rely on government subsidy to make a cut on their foreign purchases due to deficit in foreign currency.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:40

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Comment from: yourman [Visitor]

Has any of you learn from the past?
some of you were over 50years +- out of Ethiopia doing only God know what
and know you are doing the same thing what you had don in the past?

People please, please live the
politices to the politicans and be
a flower becous you can not be a leader
just work hard wereaver you are
help you selef and the other that you only love.
the truth is no one LOVE ETHIOPIA
evry one Love his own self and $$$$
and then when time come he or she died
THE END
and then the Move start allover agin diffrent peson but the same
________________.
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Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:43

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Comment from: Chergidew [Visitor]

No. 1 started
It is a shame for the x-government.
Let God help our Country

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:48

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Comment from: tizita [Visitor]

to mamo the fool,sitotaw,joe,albi,desta, and some other idiots. you think the aid money goes to ethiopian poor and needy people? are you going to say yes? What is TDO? Tigray Development Organization;why isit important? Isit necessary to establish one province organization by the name of Ethiopia and Ethiopians? why only tigray? hell no! the aid is for TDO and Agazi army to kill innocent ethiopians who didn't vote for woyanes not for poor people. you might say other provinces have it too.yes but not supported by the centeral government like TDO. Why you so mad and pull your tounge for the reason you don't have any clue. listen guys follow truth not temporary lies and if you don't know politics and the Ethiopian poor people,keep your mouth shut.Ask older Ethiopians about what is going on in that country not follow tigray politics I know you all from Adwa and you scared when you heard about aid cut.Don't worry Ethiopians will take care of you

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 22:59

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear abebe boke !
slow down!
breeze in
breeze out.
tomorrow when you see what you wrote, you are going to hate yourself.
It is so bad.
take care.

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 23:05

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Comment from: Doyoo [Visitor]

Who would be affected by the donor's decision to cut "Aid"?. The poor Ethiopians? No, not at all. After all, all the money that was flooding into the country was only used to fatten the bank accounts of Meles and his hench men.
Had all the "Aid", that the West has been giving to Ethiopia over the past fourteen years, used directly to development projects, the country by now would have been self sufficent.
The Western countries somehow has never stop giving Aid in billions but never knew where the money was going and little did they know that the same money has been transferred into personal accounts of Ethiopian officials in banks right under their own nose.
So, for those of you who think otherwise, I have a good news for you: THE DONOR COUNTRIES HAVE JUST OPENED THEIR EYES WIDE ENOUGH TO SEE WHERE THEIR MONEY HAD GONE IN THE PAST FOURTEEN SOLID YEARS.

Bravo Donors!!

Doyoo

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 23:10

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Comment from: Doyoo [Visitor]

Who would be affected by the donor's decision to cut "Aid"?. The poor Ethiopians? No, not at all. After all, all the money that was flooding into the country was only used to fatten the bank accounts of Meles and his hench men.
Had all the "Aid", that the West has been giving to Ethiopia over the past fourteen years, used directly to development projects, the country by now would have been self sufficent.
The Western countries somehow have never stop giving Aid in billions but never knew where the money was going and little did they know that the same money has been transferred into personal accounts of Ethiopian officials in banks right under their own nose.
So, for those of you who think otherwise, I have a good news for you: THE DONOR COUNTRIES HAVE JUST OPENED THEIR EYES WIDE ENOUGH TO SEE WHERE THEIR MONEY HAD GONE IN THE PAST FOURTEEN SOLID YEARS.

Bravo Donors!!

Doyoo

Permalink 12/29/05 @ 23:54

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Comment from: Yirgacheffee [Visitor]

Ethiopian Mossaza,

I’m deeply touched with you poem in general and the part you attributed to me in particular.

IN SHORT, AID HAS NOT BEEN AND WILL NOT BE CUT
Ethiopia is not going to lose a single penny in aid because EPRDF has shown too much progress in development and poverty reduction!

Some western governments may for a limited time choose to funnel their finances through NGOs rather than direct budgetary support. But that is perfectly alright since the resources go towards infrastructural development such as the 60,000 k/m road networks, international airports, universities, hospitals, clinics, electricity, telecommunication and other infrastructures EPRDF has so far built!

Ethiopian Mossazza,

Now here is a poem for you.

Ethiopian Mossazza,
Yilkesekesal ezih eza,
He enjoyes distruction,
He wishes the Elimination,
Of our great nation,
Through Kinijitnization,
He is no Mosses,
He must be an actress,
More like Judah,
Hagerun silekedah,

Solomon,

How can you suggest for Meles to release the criminal CUD leaders! Are you listening to yourself?! No amount of AID cut will ever force EPRDF to negotiate with Hailu Shawel the evil man who wanted to massacre 15,000 people! All Meles has to do to the aid givers is show them that Ethiopia can conduct a free and fair trial!

And finally to the true Democrats of Ethiopia,

Don’t be fooled by misleading articles like the one my Financial Times! ETHIPOIA WILL NOT LOSE A SINLE PENNY! You just wait and watch! Time Will Tell The Truth!

True Democrats,
I finally want to say that I love you all.

Non-Democrat Derguists,
I still love you all too deep deep way deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep down!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 00:13

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Comment from: Daniel L. [Visitor]

First of all,I don't know where you people got the news,there is nothing that says "cancellation"and secondly you guys take the trophy as the first citizens calling on western donors to cut aid to their own country,WOW dinkem Ethiopianoch

you probably like to hear news that is negative or bad about Ethiopia,some of you even had the audacity to call your crying games around Embassies "a bitter struggle"

give me a break,now you all should just relax go to your nearest dunkin donut and get a decaf then go earn money,to help your families here,now that could be considered as a struggle

P.S yeah yeah I know the responses:weyane cadre,bla bla bla etc....so you can stash it,and it's okay to have a mature diaogue BUT...no thanks.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 00:29

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Comment from: dee [Visitor]

ato yergacheffe:
I did not know you are still alive when most of males's caders are dead. you are telling me that you are the richest country in the world who do not need donners money just like your boss(granzani Bereket) said on tigergna's voa.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 00:35

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Comment from: Awol [Visitor]

We need arm struggle to bring down EPRDF, it is clear that it is non democratic, it suppressed the oromos and other Ethiopians,killed them and denided their right, if EPRDF doesn't want reconcilation, let the oromos and Amaras and other ethinic groups reconcile and start arm struggle.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 00:43

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Comment from: Yirgacheffee [Visitor]

Dearst dee,

My long time rival. I was under the impression that you would never comeback to this site since 75 Kinijits decided to disobey you and join the parliament. EPRDF will now use these Kinijts as a bargaining chip to counter-balckmail the Western governments.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 00:56

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Comment from: Tadesse [Visitor]

mamo the fool,sitotaw,joe,albi,desta
etc ...

In case you didn't know the AID has been cut it is just decided not to be given to you personally and let you steal it.

It will be delivered to Ethiopian through non-govermental agencies.

Sorry, I see your pain because you cannot steal from the poor anymore.

No one trust this EVIL EPRDF/TPLF anymore ..That is the messge of this decission.

In case you are interested, I want to tell you to abandoned this dying regime and think for your future.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 01:07

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Comment from: Hebere Behair [Visitor]

My understanding is that the World Bank intention is not to cancel $375 Million grant altogether but to find an alternate method of disbursement that ensures the proper utilization of this money for the targeted purpose. If that is the case then World Bank’s decision can serve a dual purpose, and it should be welcomed by all who care about Ethiopia and Ethiopians. However, to the disappointment of many, some quarters in the Diaspora have been advocating for aid cancellation and imposition of an economic embargo on Ethiopia categorically. Speaking from an Ethiopian point of view: that is a betrayal to Millions of Ethiopians; brutally murderous and no different than a crime against humanity. I say this because the majority of the Ethiopian People that I know struggle to survive the day, struggle not to go to bed with an empty stomach, suffer from deadly diseases with no medication and care or assistance, and struggle with the savage and uncompromising nature of cyclic and seasonal drought constantly. The Ethiopian People that I know does not have the comfort to permit anyone to act on their behalf in blocking the life saving assistance offered to them by humanitarians and donor countries. The Ethiopian people that I know, is not in the business of slashing their own throat by refusing help in this unfortunate and difficult time. Actually, we are all grateful and very appreciative of those helping hands which are keeping millions of people alive. The reduction of aid to Ethiopia more than anything hurts the millions of impoverished Ethiopians. Do not forget that we are one of the poorest countries in the world where hundreds thousands of people had died because of hunger in the past and at present we still have millions of people who totally depend on foreign aid. The actions we take at this moment should not target or affect millions of Ethiopians who unlike us in the Diaspora have other immediate priorities and needs for survival, which are beyond their ability and control. Democracy shall be a mutual struggle by the people for the people, and not against the people’s interest. The fact is that at this moment none of us, as responsible Ethiopian citizens, are capable of solving the immediate need and suffering of millions of our own people without depending on the help and assistance of the international community. This is no joke! It is a life and death alternative for millions of Ethiopians. It should be a serious concern to all of us if we really care to the well being of our people. So, why are we swearing in their name, the millions of Ethiopians name in a very irresponsible and harmful way? Is that ok for the rest of us to allow a few swear in the name of millions of Ethiopians, in a very irresponsible and harmful way by effectively undermining the priorities, needs and above all well being of 77.4 million Ethiopians. I strongly believe that there still are other effective ways to struggle for democracy without strangling millions of extremely poor people and bleeding our own country to death. The way forward to solve the Ethiopian crisis comes through reconciliation and continuous dialogue with a clear understanding of the political topography of Ethiopia, by listening and considering the various demands of the people without any limitations, by seeking and forming a genuine and representative collision, by sharing power and resources equitably and proportionally.
Peace!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 01:38

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Comment from: kidst [Visitor]

i am realy upset and fade about the federal police they are realy no the human bieng

meles is DEVEL

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 01:39

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Comment from: dee [Visitor]

what seems idiot is some of you still think this guy is Ethiopian. nnooooo. the other thing is I can't wait to see who will come out to demonstrate saying "good job males for killing women, child, etc...what a joke. " to me it is a perfect opportunity for Ethiopians to crackdown the agazis to their home "dengay". very soon, woyane will be burried once and for ever. the woyanes now even banned all newspapers including sport newspapers. can't you see where the country is going? hey the guy is dead already. Ethiopians are united as ONE morethan ever.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 01:43

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Addisu:
Thank you for your constructive comments and suggestions.
As per the struggle, we need to focus on Meles and all his allies. We have to expose and pressure them. To avoid broad criticism, we need to hear more from the Tigryan people. Time is critical and we need to stay on course. We have to keep alive the struggle in the Diplomatic, Grass Roots and Arm Struggle circle. The issue of unity however, have been challenging and must be always our priority. The opposition parties should be more careful and responsible in how to handle political differences and extra care must be consider on the issue of nationalities.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 01:56

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Comment from: Selam [Visitor]

Supporters of CUDP, the self-acclaimed nationalists, the self-proclaimed true sons and daughters of Ethiopia; now is time to serve your people and your country truthfully. Let’s see what you can do. Do you have the time or interest to meet me tomorrow in front of the IMF and ask the international body to assist Ethiopia save the lives of an estimated 500,000 people from the looming drought and starvation in the south east of Ethiopia.
Please go ahead and read the article below, do not feel bad but make a note of it and next time act appropriately.

ETHIOPIA FAMINE WARNING
30.12.2005. 12:09:51

More than a million Ethiopian cattle herders are facing extreme food shortages after rains failed to replenish water sources and sustain livestock, according to a famine early warning group.

Drought also has triggered food shortages in neighbouring Kenya and Somalia, a country that has had no effective government since warlords overthrew dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1994.

Pre-famine conditions have already emerged in Ethiopia's eastern Somali region, including escalating malnutrition and reports of child deaths; tribal conflicts over scarce resources; early and widespread human and livestock migration; slaughtering of calves to save cows and rising sorghum prices.

The US-funded Famine Early Warning Systems Network says that a preliminary assessment showed more than a million people will face serious water, pasture and food shortages for the first half of 2006.

The crisis will peak from January to March, according to the food security monitoring group.

The Somali region, which is the size of Britain, is one of the driest and least hospitable areas in Ethiopia.

The area was hit by catastrophic famine in 2000 that killed an estimated 50,000 people.

An initial estimate from the regional Disaster Preparedness and Prevention Administration indicates Ethiopia needs more than $A54.7 million to provide emergency water, fodder and health care to people and animals affected by the drought.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:07

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Comment from: tizibt new [Visitor]

Hibre Biher said: "The way forward to solve the Ethiopian crisis comes through reconciliation and continuous dialogue with a clear understanding of the political topography of Ethiopia, by listening and considering the various demands of the people without any limitations, by seeking and forming a genuine and representative collision, by sharing power and resources equitably and proportionally".

What a beautiful say, only devoid any thing practical. Isn't this the same thing that we have been hearing from Meles, Aigas, waltas and ETV, so beautiful words. How is yours different Mr? You only forgot to talk about constittion and the rule of law a necessary catalyst in TPLF's propaganda these days. Mr Yeazo Inba, how do you advice us to deal with a regime who has refused every bit of what you are proposing here? let me assure you one thing, the donors aren't boycotting providing food for the famine striken, the whole mark of our existence, the rest never reaches to the poor any way. Perhaps with the current way of finding some other route, the poor, in whose name this brutal regime survives, may benefit something, however small it may be.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:10

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

Under the banner of "STRUGGEL" all Ethiopians from every corner of the world should march towards the true democracy.

Together with the help of GOD we can. Yes we can!

May GOD bless you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:18

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Dear Ethiopians:
I am happy with the donors decision. I believe this is a pay back of our relentless struggle on the Diplomatic front. In the past, the money donated never been used for it's intended targets. Instead it went directly to Dictator Melees' account. For the past 15 years, Meles and the Weyanes, have stolen and looted all donated monies and the country is still poor because of bad governance.
When it comes to Foreign Aid, there is a famous saying

... teach me how to fish rather than you give me fish....)
The more of this piece is that unlike emergency or disaster relief, Foreign aid in general is bad to nations' economic development. There are three main reasons. First foreign aid creates dependency. Once start getting foreign aid nations become dependent on Aid. Second, foreign aid come at a price of nations loosing sovereignty and national as well as international independent identity. They become a subject and controlled by the donor nation. Third even in the most generous circumstances, 90 percent of the money remains in the hands of the donor nation agencies. These agencies keep the money in their general fund accounts and use only some in logistic & administrations. Only less than 0.10 reaches to the reciver individual or nations. Even here in most cases the money ends going to the wrong hand or corrupted officals.
The nation of Bangladesh has been the highest foreign aid recipient since it got it's independence from India. Life for the average citizen is still bad and in theory and practice FOREIGN AID IS NOT GOOD.
Also most foreign Aid workers are spies, missionaries or people who give up hope in their countries.
In general, Bilateral like World Bank and IMF and UNDP Economic Development type of foreign aid is good if there is a follow up on the projects.
We Ethiopians and Africans, need to accept responsibility for the demise of our economic and social crisis. The root cause of our problem is political disability, which usually caused by one or more of the foreign donor nations. We need to learn how to solve our problem our self without calling a third party. Forget Carter and the like personalities as well as nations like USA and United King Dome.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:30

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Comment from: yafet Kibreab [Member]

It is great that the western donors have come to their mind. It seems that they have started realizing what the existing Ethiopian government is doing here. I appreciate the measure taken by the donor countries. yes, the financial support should not go into the pockets of our bosses. Let the needy get the aid through the humanitarian organizations located here. What the donors should know here is that by withholding the fund they have at least prevented our 'leaders' not to purchase more rifles (snipers).

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:40

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear selam!
what was the base/criterea of the award for meles from yara? We are in a dog house for a long period of time. 14years was supposed to be enough for meles and company to come up with solution. The west and donor countries cover almost half of our badget. What are you expecting? Back up a little bit and see the root source of the problem.
take care.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 02:45

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Comment from: Hebere Behair [Visitor]

Dear Mr. Tizibt New,

My comment calls for reconciliation and dialogue as the preferred and peaceful means out of the crises. I am sorry if that does not go well with you. The truth is that indulging into more confrontational, disrespectful and hateful rhetoric will do very little to help the ailing state of democracy in Ethiopia or alleviate the immediate needs of millions of extremely impoverished and currently aid dependant Ethiopians. As much as the Government’s recent intensification of repression will not bring peace or democracy, inciting more confrontation, violence and bloodshed could not deliver the desired democracy to our people. As you may well know, advocating for peace and reconciliation doesn’t go in coherence with a parallel campaign of hate and hostility among the Ethiopian people.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:09

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Comment from: Seni [Visitor]

Tadesse
yes it will not be given to the government but to Aid workers who will take over 50 % for their salaries. Trust me I know I work for the UN!

My boss gets 68,000 birr a month 816,000 per year. That by itself can build a school in some rural area.

I also get quite a good salary which is good enough for school supply for a year.

So stop romanticizing it.

do not respond to this unless you have something matured to say as Daniel L. put it " ...yeah yeah I know the responses:weyane cadre,bla bla bla etc....so you can stash it,and it's okay to have a mature diaogue BUT...no thanks."

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:12

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

Yirgacheffe!

First of all, do you accept as Dictators are always killer, they never stop killing unless they removed from their power?
Say Yes or No

Please see the following facts:
1.Hitler is dictator, he killed in millions.
2. Mussolini is dictator, he killed in ten thousands.
3. Mengistu is dictator, he killed in ten thousands.

As you know all the above are real facts. What is wrong to predict Meles will kill in ten thousands?

Meles is dictator (kids terror is live in Ethiopia everywhere now). If Meles stay in power , would kill in ten thousands as any dictators had killed before.

Meles is practically careless for Ethiopian people death.For example:

1.More than 60 thousands Tigrian poor people had been scarified themselves for sake of democracy in Ethiopia . But Meles neglecting their scarification he becomes dictator.
2.Thousands of Ethiopian had been scarified to safe Badem from Shabia.But Meles neglect their scarification, he started joke by saying that the war with eritrea shouldn't have done. It was wrong it has taken for sake of Esiye Abraha interest etc.

YIRGACHEFFE
Such person is dangerous, unless removed from his power soon will kill in 100 thousands let alone 15,000tohuasands.Even he can eat you like his Esiye.

Any person who prediect that meles will kill more than 15,000 people can never be considered as wrong one.

Take care

!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:12

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Comment from: Bayu [Visitor]

I read that a major road infrastructure project will be stopped beacuase of the aid cut from EU. What I do not understand is how on earth the people of Ethiopia will benefit form this. It is a sad day for Ethiopia and Ethiopians not beacuse the aid cut but because it was pushed by Ethiopeans especially those who have benefited a lot form the poor and are enjoying life in Europe and America. I know you can drive in well-built roads while your action blocks the survival of many in your 'beloved country'.
Please each of you who have supported the aid cut just think for a minute the consequences of your narrow minded action on the people of Ethiopia who have much worse problem than who their leader is.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:19

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Comment from: Yafet [Visitor]

Dear Seni!
I do not agree with what you are saying. you said that the fund (I am talking about the financial aid) would go to the salaries of the expatriats working here. Don't you know the saying which goes : 'beggars are not choosers?'. What I want you to underscore here is that it is the westerns, our masters, who are donating the financial aid. So, what's wrong if they give and take? What's wrong if they dispatch their money stuffing in a van, which was made in their country? Mind you, the cost of the van is to be diducted from their financial aid! Then, my dear sister, Who are you to sit here and comment regarding the dollar coming from overseas! You are talking about the salary you are scooping from a UN organization. Have you ever thought of using very some of your earning to pay for school fee of a poor child here? The other thing you missed here is that it is the white people who are feeding you and me that are throwing their money to suppot the needy here. Please don't talk nonsense!
Yourbrother, an Ethiopian, from Addis.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:40

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Comment from: Melekot [Visitor]

Negesho,

You are not mad because the Western countries are holding the money from the poor, you are mad because they are going let the NGO's handle the money instead of your Uncles to get it to the poor. What a shame, what a shame. The whole world now knows your Uncles and Antis have been taking the money all along. No more getting rich with the money that was supposed to go to the poor. .. Haven't you heard What the ever stupid Berket Semon said today,(damn, I surprised he's still talking). He said that woyane is not depended on the Westerns money; he said woyanes Government is depended on the people. I have no idea what kind of people he was referring to. Maybe his MUSSNA buddies.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 03:58

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

asteway
You mean that no more bullet purchas using donors fund. this is realy Victory to the donors themselve.
Thank you for your explanation.

Those of you who are crying a lot what is your especial need here? as long as the fund is reaching to the poor through NGOs? Or any other agent selected by the owner of the fund what should be a problem here?

The donors know how to use their fund effectively than any of you.

Please don' try to be more concern than the owner of the fund. Let us leave this issue for them.

If the donors believe that this action is helpful to Ethiopian people they can do it as long the fund is their own.

If this action is disadvantageous to Ethiopian government no problem government officials (Puppets) can resign as the donation is for the poor Ethiopians.

If this action is disadvantageous for the Agazi army no problem they can stop there work (killing kids) and sleep to there home.

As long the poor get the aid the method of getting the Aid is up to the owner of the fund.
Please keep quiet.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:09

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Comment from: Melekot [Visitor]

: Muhamed,

I read your Book!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:20

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Comment from: Mulu [Visitor]

I think the donors are trying for better use of thier fund.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:25

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

Latest news from addis,

They are still arresting and killing young students.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:39

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

IMPORTANT NEWS
any one who has a family who is hurt by novomber violence in ethiopia can sue ETHIO-MEDIA and ETHIO-REVIEW website editors,because of their violent propoganda and lies inorder to push young people to violence.
i talked to lawyer in DC,and he told me, any one can has a good case and can contact their lawyer to SUE the OWNERS of these web sites.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:56

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

for GRACE
you must be one of shabia thugs who are infesting ethiopian web site these days.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 04:57

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

mamo,

No I am not one them, but I am telling the truth.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 05:03

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

mamo,

No I am not one of them, but I am telling the truth. I thought you were one of them.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 05:06

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Comment from: Chulule [Visitor]

We should be grateful for the donors' decision to freeze their political-infected donations.

For many years, we've been received donations; however, with no avail.
It didn't make any difference; rather the donation resulted in bad name to our country - which is known by the world as a poverty infected country.

We should trust in ourselves. Let's make poverty history by working hard and help eachother.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 05:15

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

GRACE
believe me i know you very well. that's why i said you one of shabia's thugs.
you really are working for shabia .
you don't want to tell you your real name.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:03

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Comment from: sun of eastern [Visitor]

I belive ,the time had been over after dergu down --CUD and supporter can not lead us with bastard mind ,the quation is not about prim minesrar meles , is about strong relation of nation and nationality ,strong law of federalizm ,the equal right of all nation....No one- westerns dorors or other can not stop us to build our equalty . if you belive all nation are equal, you are with us.you are better than us, fuck yourself getout of here ,you can't fuck us no more...-go and fuck donors ok ,No more fuck in ethiopia-we are taired fucking ,no more fucking

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:09

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Comment from: sun of eastern [Visitor]

I belive ,the time had been over after dergu down --CUD and supporter can not lead us with bastard mind ,the quation is not about prim minesrar meles , is about strong relation of nation and nationality ,strong law of federalizm ,the equal right of all nation....No one- westerns dorors or other can not stop us to build our equalty . if you belive all nation are equal, you are with us.you are better than us, fuck yourself getout of here ,you can't fuck us no more...-go and fuck donors ok ,No more fuck in ethiopia-we are taired fucking ,no more fucking

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:17

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Comment from: Seni [Visitor]

Yafet
u said u do not agree. You do not agree with what. With the fact that they are taking half the money or the fact that it is better if it is channeled through the government.

Coz even if a member of EPRDF takes the money to his pocket...the money stays in Ethiopia.

Moreover I do not think that Bono is fighting for the employee (his country men) to take the money inappropriately.

Those who pay tax do not support the fact that money is used inappropriately. The givers are not saying take half of what we give to the poor.

Yes there are students I pay to go to school and you have to remember all the money they give me I spend it in Ethiopia.

I do not save, I have a sister I pay to go to Unity Collage.... the money they give me is circulating.

On the other hand my boss just paid for a second mortgage in the US his kids go to school in the US.

So do the calculation

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:20

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Comment from: bekele [Visitor]

kinijit.org is begging the goverment to kill young ethiopians in order to create violence in the city.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:29

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

bekele
You mean that CUD is in a position to order agazis?Please explain me more.

Why the Goverment is accusing CUD?

you are witnessed that CUD has no power to kill by himself .

But sholud beg the killers (the government)to excut the killing.

If what you are saying is true who sholud have been in jail for the crime ?

The fact is the goverment is killing the youngs :
1. He hate the Ethiopian people except his dogs like you.
2.THE GOVERMENT FIREST KILL THE YOUNG THEN ACCUSE THE CUD for the kiling.MEANSE THE GOVERMENT PLAY GAME,ENJOY IN ETHIOPIAN DEATH.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:49

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Comment from: Mulu [Visitor]

Please stick to the forum title only.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 06:52

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Comment from: bekele [Visitor]

GETU
cud and its pack of zombies like you are spreading lies day after day inoder to create violence in the city . it is sicking to see zombies like hiding behind your computer and pushing those young people to die for you those so-callED CUD LEADERS. [THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HARD TO DESTROY THAT COUNTRY ECONOMY].

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:08

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Comment from: mamo [Visitor]

IMPORTANT NEWS
any one who has a family who is hurt by novomber violence in ethiopia can sue ETHIO-MEDIA and ETHIO-REVIEW website editors,because of their violent propoganda and lies inorder to push young people to violence.
i talked to lawyer in DC,and he told me, any one can has a good case and can contact their lawyer to SUE the OWNERS of these web sites.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:11

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Comment from: Yoko [Visitor]

Bekele & Mamo

Just shut up! LOOSERS

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:24

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

Beke
1. Why don't you tell me what I asked YOU than repeating ETV program again and again here.

2. This generaton youngs are not foollish like you who said "CUD begging the goverment to excuse young killig."
3. This generation youngs properly understand the value of freedom for humanbig. they never want to live
under the silavery of TPLF gangers like you .
4. What do you mean destroying the country Economy.when TPLF gangers has came to cenral Ethiopia were they building bridge or destroying our inrastructure? Pleas explain me.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:24

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Comment from: Mulu [Visitor]

Mamo
Please stick to the point.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:29

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Comment from: yafet [Visitor]

I can’t say what I should do at this moment. The only thing I can tell you is that I hate life in my own country. This is the very day in which I have come to realize that life in Ethiopia is a real tough. I hope this word can’t express my feeling well.
Oh dear God, how a citizen can be regarded as an enemy in his own country! This very day wherever you go, you can’t have the gut to look straight into the faces of the woyanes, or government soldiers. I am writing this in an e-mail cafe near Mesqel Square. You all should know that these days it is tough and dangerous to write or e-mail a word when there is someone you really don't know nearby. Now I am feeling alright to say the following.
Yesterday the government soldiers, federals, were busy rounding up and flogging teachers of various high schools. Students, for instance, at Abiot Kirs High School were pursuing their lesson quietly before the federals flooded the school’s campus. It was then the students got confused and voiced their dismay. However, the response they received from the federals was flogging. Teachers were among those who received the beating and kicking. There were also certain teachers who were detained. This week it is their turn. They (high school teachers and students) are getting their share of flogging from the woyanes. Students and poor teachers at Teferi Mekonnen, Minilik Dil Ber, Abiot Kirs Wondirad and other high schools are being flogged by their brothers, the federals. This is Ethiopia. This is the place where we are forced to lead misery life.
Dear people, have you heard over the Ethiopian Television yesterday what a Somali representative said regarding kinijit, CUD? He said that with the said party, CUD, in power, the country named Ethiopia will never last long. He was saying what his masters, woyanes, told him to reflect. We know this is what the woyanes are striving for. We Ethiopians don’t want any body else to tell us what Melese and his friends are doing now. Disintegrating Ethiopia is their primary goal. Don’t you see what the fate of this country will be so long as the woyanes and their cadres are not in possession of the rein of power?

Geremew

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:32

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Comment from: safu [Visitor]

Hag,

Few days a go you said USA and UK are with EPDRF and the TPLF. Today we see that they are contemplating to cut your bloodline, the aid. What happened? Are you being an Arada, the language given in Amharic to all those make jokes about their met or cheat them? Is that means the whole TPLF/EPDRF policy is based on Arada thinking. Cheat, cheat and cheat? Who is going to trust you ever? EPDRF has lost dignity and respect, which was never there at all. You think even the remotest people of Benishangul, Gambella, Shekicho, Kaficho, Konso, Mursi, Surma and others will believe what you say. No. As matter of fact, they have never known your existence until 1992, when suddenly you appeared on their land like a seed germinating from ground. Even, not good seed, but very bad weed. You just go on and have your meetings, evaluations and pass on resolution. Meet again. Read it and believe it has value and is taken up by the people. The so-called farmer based economy has no skeleton. 14 years wasted. Even the so-called OPDOs are not with you, their soul and mind is elsewhere. They are your sole employees and when the pay dries they will melt away. After their entire name is known to their communities and they know what expects them after you. Never again Ethiopians will sale their soul to stolen money and looted property and baseless ideology that marries both western and eastern doctrine.

I am proud Annuak, and I can say this. Even there are good individuals within Amhara people who spoke out about injustice that was imposed on us when their natives killed us and subjugated us. Such are the likes of Abegobegna, the author of Desegnaw (whose name I could not remember) and other. We have never ever heard or seen a single Tigrean who did the same for the last 14 years of Tyranny. You may think that I am an Amhara, but I am not. Even I cannot conduct good conversation in Amaharic. Please give up you TPLF dream and speak out about the oppressed people. Ethiopia without Ethiopians has no meaning and those Ethiopians are all Ethiopians. When you love the land, you need to love the people too!

Respect

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:42

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Comment from: Tolossa [Visitor]

Dear Mamo Killo, Please keep shut your mouth. We don't want you to tell us whom we should charge. Your fathers here are telling us not to raise rifles to struggle against them. Because they know they will not stay in power for a single second if the entir nations determine and wipe them out once and for all. you, their son,are telling us what the cadres are echoeing here. please keep shut your mouth. you have not the right, at least, to make fun of my brothers who were gunned down by your fathers here. Keep washing the dishes your white msters have left at the dinning table.
Your poor brother.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 07:48

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Comment from: 007 [Visitor]

Bravo cud supporters, I am sure shabians must be very happy that you have achieved what they could not for the past 10 years.You might hurt Melese a little, but to the majority my Ethiopian brothers and sisters a whole lot.I really wonder what your justification would be.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:11

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Comment from: Kimba [Visitor]

'Why don't you leave us alone!'. This is what our leaders are saying. They want us to keep quiet while they are making shoes from our skins. They have evry thing here. They have the banks, the bussines, the land, the rifles and every thing this country possesses. They don't want us to raise the question of common property of the country. So, where are we supposed to go!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:13

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Comment from: Getu [Visitor]

Bekele
1. Why don't you tell me what I asked YOU than repeating ETV program again and again here?

2. This generation youngs are not foolish like you who said "CUD begging the government to excuse young killing."
3. This generation youngs properly understand the value of freedom for human being. They never want to live under the slavery of TPLF gangers like you.
4. What do you mean destroying the country Economy.
When TPLF gangers have came to central Ethiopia were they building bridge or destroying our infrastructure? Pleas explain me.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:39

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Comment from: A.H. [Visitor]

It costs a lot for a party who argues that he stands for the people. The judge will release prisoners with bail on next trial since the cases brought against them range from three years to death. If it had been a minimum of 15 years then, the court would have no choice but now, smart institutions/persons will take the advantage of popularity and no wonder if they are flexible. The prize is high.

Our limited experience of CUD shows that the day after they are released on bail, the hardliners will involve in similar situation. It means, back to square one and the advantage goes to ??????. Not a single lawyer internally willing to ask for bail.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:43

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Comment from: Mulu [Visitor]

How mind is more powerful than Gun?
I could have certain that A few professors mind is more powerful than a lot of group of gorrela fighters.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:48

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Comment from: desta [Visitor]

yehuna
Do you really think 14 years is enough to solve all deep rooted problem. do you deny the undenable facts.do you deny the change in democratization how ever it was damaged by recent events-who ever responsible might be.have you ever been to ethiopia(if you are abroad)recently.the invenstment in education, health,road.electric power and telephone(you can find telephone even in soem remote rural areas)road..you do not need to use four wheel drive car to travle to Gonder Deredewa ,djibouti,dela thanks to the newly built asphalt roads....in short i can say that there is a sea change in ethiopia especially in the last some years.how do we expect a miracle in such a short time.the news papers which has been writing the untolerable things have been tolerated by this system for the sake of democracy.we have seen some element of openness and acountablity for the first time in our history.
But we should be practical.it is unwise to expect everything over night.we can have things in our WISH LIST but we can not get them.how on earth one expect a police man in ethiopia to be like a police man in France or else where.we all have to ask ourselves if we could act differntly if we where in their shoes.for some one who brought up in undemocratic culture can not be democrat over night.
at least this system is not a type of system which prescribe what to read and listen like derg and cud.We all know that politics is some thing which we -it is this system which helped us to speak our heart.during the derg regime it was some thing difficlt ot discuss about politics even b/n relatives.every body was adviced to keep proper distace frome politics.it is b/s of this government that we saw all the demonstrations and freedom of expression.we should not forget that the democratic culture is some thing new for us.
take care

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:49

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Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]

You WOYANE CADRES & SUPPORTERS.

First of all What you should have to know is the current sacrification of young boys and girls all over Ethiopia is only for freedom but not as you said to promote the agenda of any political parties.

Becuase its obvious that WOYANE/EPRDF has oppressed the population of Ethiopia for the last 14 years.

Those woyane members who were very poor/destitute before 1991 has now become millioners with in 14 years time. whose money is that? that is ours not woyanes. so rather than dying from hunger/unemployment youths should have to continue their struggle against woyane and secure the ownership the public on those properties controled by woyanes for the time being.

If woyane gets over thrown, first and for most it is the people living in Ethiopia who would be benifited from the victory not those living in diaspora. Becuase there would be wide opportunities of jobs for citezens, proper education for youngesters, social welfare for sevil societies and above all freedom for all Ethiopians living in Ethiopia.

Victory for Ethiopians.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 08:56

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Comment from: Bekele [Visitor]

Hi Guys,
let me remind you,Ethiopia has very gut relation with Germany,France,Italy and other EU meberstates.Specially Germany and France,both cauntries are the back bone of EU.They are ready to help Ethiopia tecnically and finacially.
For Ethiopia, it is impossible to satisfay 25 different EU memeberstates different interest only to get aid.People of Ethiopia are already fade up by EU threating aid cut.Now Ethiopians qoestion for EU,please leave us alone!don't try to interrupt aur democracy and Peace by the name of aid.Ethiopians for centuries opressed by few Naftagna.Today again they try to their old position ony by changing their names from Naftagna to CUD.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:03

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Comment from: Bekele [Visitor]

Hi Guys,
let me remind you,Ethiopia has very gut relation with Germany,France,Italy and other EU meberstates.Specially Germany and France,both cauntries are the back bone of EU.They are ready to help Ethiopia tecnically and finacially.
For Ethiopia, it is impossible to satisfay 25 different EU memeberstates different interest only to get aid.People of Ethiopia are already fade up by EU threating aid cut.Now Ethiopians qoestion for EU,please leave us alone!don't try to interrupt aur democracy and Peace by the name of aid.Ethiopians for centuries opressed by few Naftagna.Today again they try to get their old position ony by changing their names from Naftagna to CUD.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:06

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Comment from: desta [Visitor]

Getu
do you have a son or a daughter .pls do not be bad example to them.pls try to be good at least for the sake of your kids.pls try to pretend to be smart .do not kill the coming generation i am worried very much about the coming generation.pls be yourself and walk your talk.
bye

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:10

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Comment from: Muhamed [Visitor]

Dear Ethiopians:
Congratulation to all Ethiopians both at home and in the Diaspora. Walking hand in hand and working together, we have symbolically won diplomatic support. This is a victory we have archived against the Brutal Dictator Meles and his supporters. Our Peaceful struggle has started bearing fruits. While this result strengthen our bitter struggle against the enemy, this decommission will heart Meles in the pocket. He should be ashamed and responsible for such punishment of our country.
I am happy with the donors decision. I believe this is a pay back of our relentless struggle on the Diplomatic front. In the past, the money donated never been used for it's intended targets. Instead it went directly to Dictator Melees' account. For the past 15 years, Meles and the Weyanes, have stolen and looted all donated monies and the country is still poor because of bad governance.

Money donated from Western countries or "FOREIGN AID," is supposed to improve the lives of Africans across the whole continent. Despite it's rich natural resources and good climate, Ethiopia is one of the poorest countries in Africa. In stead of being the bread basket of Africa, Ethiopia is suffering from chronic Famine and Hunger. The situation has gone from bad to worst since Meles and the Weyanes took power by force.
Meles and the Weyanes have not only, exacerbated the crisis in Ethiopia, but also committed a economic and political suicide. As the country try to drug itself out of poverty, Meles and TPLF/EPRDF have failed to provide good governance. This government have failed to provide basic life necessities such as clean water, sanitation and shelter to it's citizens. In addition, this government, have no vision and lacks efforts to put Ethiopia on the path of prosperity. Even there is no free access to the government control media. There is popular bitterness over the current economic, political and social policies. Ethiopia is for sale.
While I sincerely admire western politicians interest in our cause, their impact is minimum in finding solution to our problems. I strongly be live that nothing Good comes out of a White Man for Africans in general and Ethiopians in particular. We do not need foreigners to solve our problems? We will deal with it. No matter how difficult it gets? Our struggle for Peace, Democracy and Justice will Continue? For sure our sacrifice will not be in vain. For too long, our call for peace and reconciliation has landed on Meles and the Weyanes deaf ears. When peace and reconciliation fail, however, the choice becomes force and that is exactly what Ethiopians are demanding from it's heroic and patriotic children.
God Bless Ethiopia.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:19

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Comment from: tazbiw [Visitor]

I do not see why EPRDF should be concerned about the donors dicision. Thy are not going to stop the aid but promised to provide it the right way. Giving the aid directly to the people who need it most. The more you woyanee illegal government supporters cry about this issue the clearer it becomes that the money was giong dirctly to Mels' account

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:19

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Comment from: tazbiw [Visitor]

After all we should not be rely on wetern aids. we should be more concerned about the things that made our nation dependant of aids. what is the cause our poverity. are they not dictators like Mels and Mengistu. The later is gone the other one should go too

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:25

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Comment from: Tedla Hailu [Visitor]

Dear Bloggers,

I think this topic has brought a lot of attention from all sides. My observations are the following.

On the side of the opposition parties and supporters
1. The umblical cord for the survival of Woyane is going to be cut so what the opposition has fought for; international recognition of their cause, is bearing fruit.
2. In most of the comments supporters of this point indicate that this is just another chapter in the struggle towards freedom, democracy and the rule of law in Ethiopia.

On the side of Woyane/EPRDF cadres and cronies here are some of the accusations:
1. The poor will suffer the most.
2. They (Woyane) doesn't care about these sanctions anyway.
3.Woyane will increase tax, tarrif and other income generating mechanisms on the people of Ethiopia.
4. Supporters of this sanctions work with Shabia/EPLF.
Most of all Woyanes are deeply anxious and angry with this move from the donors community.

Anyway Ethiopians shall get their freedom, democracy and the rule of law!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:39

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Comment from: below [Visitor]

Muhed,
please make your comments short and clear.By the way,do you used some Drags?.
Please try to collect your mind in one direction.I saw in your comment everytime some fragmented ideas.Think for yourself before Naftagna(CUD)Ok!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:41

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

Bekele, EU countries are have their own interest. They know that their long term interest lies with Ethiopian people. Melese may have relation with one or two leaders of these countries. These countries are run by democratic govt where rule of law & not personal relationship is important. EU is determined that Meles is dictotor & the aid money is going to be cut for sure. There is no back door deal of giving money to Meles. You reapetdely mentioned Ethiopian people demand for aid money. Ethiopian people's most important demand is freedom. If aid money is cut, donors will find ways to help them. Ethiopian people are decided on the slogan: LIVE FREE OR DIE!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:52

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Comment from: jambo [Visitor]

This news is no doubt music to the ears of Shaebia-CUD coalition, but it will not change the government's position on the criminal CUD leaders. In fact no amount of interference by the west will alter their fate. The government is seeking justice for the crimes they committed in their attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government. And justice will be served whether their supporters and backers like it or not.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 09:54

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Comment from: bekele [Visitor]

Yoman,what is for you freedom?If you have Naftagna back ground, It is not easy to answer this qoustion.
All Ethiopian,we struggling for freedom,equality and democracy.But We acieve thise goals only by removing those ant-peace forces like CUD and Shabiya messengers,not by EU aid.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 10:13

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Comment from: Olana [Visitor]

I hope the money goes to private humanitarian groups, like Doctors With Out Borders and the likes. Hopefully they won’t give it to corrupt organization like UN. The UN secretary, Annan should have condemned Mele’s brutal govt.

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I would like to thank those who are holding a vigil in DC in this cold and windy winter day. Too bad I live far away from DC to join you, but I am with you in spirit.
God bless you and keep you warm.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 10:24

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Comment from: Ethiopian Mosses [Visitor]

Yirgacheffee, you mentioned that CUD is destructing Ethiopia. CUD always formed to build Ethiopia,and to bring a better time in our country. Why why you keeping lying? Everbody knows EPRDF is a destrucive force; you only know how to destroy our Ethiopia. EPRDF means-----------
Evil Possessed
People came together
Recurited by the devil Meles
Down down in hell
For Destruction of Ethiopa

You got the point!

Victory for CUD!
God bless Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 10:25

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Comment from: nuna [Visitor]

Seni and David L, the so called matured ones, say when money is given to a dictator, the money stays inside the country,wow i haven't heared that one before , do you really believe what you write??what we have seen in the past is dictators if and when money is left from their personal army and police force (USUALLY DICTATORS HAVE THE LARGEST ARMY,even if their countries are the poorest in the world) that money is stashed in foreign banks.for seni who says her monthly salery is big enough to pay for a school construction, stop preaching us on how dictators are good with their country's money,you and your rich boss should go ahead with constructing schools,but i doubt you would do that.yes you are one of those paid cadres who write what they don't believe to be the truth.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 10:33

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

Bekele, Freedom to me means when I live in a country ruled by law & my personal being & property is free from state persecution. The current govt has no respect for personal freedom. Today in Ethiopia basic freedoms are restricted by the state. If you believe in freedom, even the so called neftegnas shouldn't denied the freedom God & law gave us. By the way who is neftegna today? It is weyane who rules over Oromo & others by force. It rules over oromos by likes of Aba Dula who is not an Oromo. TPLF preaches the freedom of nations & nationalities as long as they don't challenge it. The freedom I wish for my country is first the individual freedom & second freedom of nations & nationalities to rule themselves by electing their true representatives & not by rulers sent from TPLF. These rights were not respected during HS & Derg & it is not respected today. That is what CUD, OLF, etc fighting for today. That is what all of us; indifference of any background should fight for.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:05

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Comment from: Semu [Visitor]

I read so many comments from WOYANE supportors or may be WOYANS to day. What hppened? You are scared may be? You already knew that you time is giong to the end? you were supposed to know that long time ago.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:06

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

These donors know well that the Melese government is hated by the majority of Ethiopian citizens. At the same time they are cogent of the fact that Zenawi's government wouldn't last if they don't provide him with the funds. They also clearly understand that their money pays his military, and buys the arms he uses to kill his own people. Without their aid money, they know that he wouldn't have the foreign currency to buy oil even for a few months. They also understand that he funnels the aid money to his party-owned financial institutions to fatten his corrupt officials.

http://www.ethiomedia.com/courier/aid_withheld.html

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:28

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

Prior to the election, Zenawi had promised the whole world and swore to the Ethiopian people that Ethiopia would have a free and fair election. Contrary to his commitment, his party and his government, helped and abated by an election board hand-picked by him, had stuffed ballot boxes and stole the entire election. The regime has been in power for so long and has gotten away with multiple violations of the rights of its citizens. It was business as usual, when the government was caught red-handed with an election fraud.
http://www.ethiomedia.com/courier/aid_withheld.html

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:30

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

The US, more than any other country, has more influence on the regime. The Ethiopian people see the US as having the political and financial clout, the moral authority and obligation to influence this regime. The US cannot afford the implication of supporting a rejected dictator at the expense of offending over 70 million Ethiopians. The US does not want to see the Ethiopia turn into a fertile ground for extremist zealots. It would rather side with the people of Ethiopia and fight for democracy and work towards building a stable democratic government. Supporting brutal dictators such as Meles has proved counter productive to the long term interest of fighting radicalism. The US would stand with the people of Ethiopia and provide support to their democratic aspiration. With all his dismal human rights records - including the ongoing terror against the entire citizens of the country - the US has had helped the ruthless tyrant for some time. It should call it quits; and the time is now. It is time to cut the losses, and start over to help the Ethiopian people put their house in order.
http://www.ethiomedia.com/courier/aid_withheld.html

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:31

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

All Woaynie Cadres On this page,
Wake UP! Time is against you. Better to leave this Facist today than tomorrow.

All, the big officials already stolen millions of dollars from poor Ethiopian people and they are ready to leave. They have purchased very nice houses outside the country. But YOU, poor Cadres have nothing!! YOu will have to live with Ethiopian peole for life. Ethiopian people knows who does what so there is no way either you or your family to escape the consquence of your todays action. Better to think for your future. Good luck.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 11:35

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Comment from: tulu [Visitor]

Tazabi

Do you think we are poor?

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 12:19

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Comment from: Olana [Visitor]

The money is benefiting only one Tigrae province and Meles and his gangs. And the money is also spending to pay Lobbyists around the world. The rest of Ethiopians are still dying from diseases and starvation.

To the true sons and daughters of Ethiopia, please let us stop saying CUD this and that, OLF this and that. Let us come as one as true Ethiopians and fight this cancer that is killing our brothers and sisters and our fathers and mothers. The death camps are full of Ethiopians young and old and women and children from every ethnic group with the exception of Meles’s ethnic group.

If we fight together as one, we can combat this horrible cancer before it kills all of us. Let us show this tyrant, Meles and give him his own medicine that his efforts to divide and rule will never come true. Let’s show him that we are not fools to be dragged into his tribalism propaganda to divide us. Let us return the nightmare back to Meles and tell him we are one Ethiopia. We will exercise a true democracy soon and have a legitimate PM.

What we wish for ourselves and our families let us wish for all Ethiopians. Ethiopians from every ethnic group have suffered enough. We must seek peace for all of us.

I wish you all peace and A Happy New Year.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 12:34

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

mamo,

You are at the four way road intersections and you dont' know which way to go. You go wherever the wind blows. You are neither hot nor cold, please don't bluff. Just show your true color!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 12:44

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Comment from: Olana [Visitor]

Excellent analyses of Meles’s atrocities. A well documented piece.

http://www.ethiomedia.com/courier/crime_and_nourishment.pdf

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 12:59

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Comment from: Hagos [Visitor]

EPRDF always has a back up plan.Look how PM Meles got the money out of their pocket.Bleive it or not you are against yourselfs.Wheather they gave us the money or not that is not to rule Ethiopia.You can scream as you would like nothing .If they don't want to give us their money that is simply doesn't help for democratic
change.We don't give our power for their useless money.Look what is going to happen for the creater of the problem.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 13:33

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Comment from: Habtamu [Visitor]

It is a good action agaist corupt leaders of Africa like Meles Zenawi.The Western has a legal and moral responsiblity where the money given to the poor Ethiopian gone.It should not be under the pocket of TPLF cadres.TPLF is using such money for their personal consumption.TPLF should be stopped.
God Bless Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 13:51

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Comment from: Jaagamaa [Visitor]

TPLF is on the run. Its last and best ally, is abondoning it. Its power base is eroding fast one by one and now TPLF is standing alone at a side of its grave where it will fall into soon and be buried. All the signs of a downfall of a dictatorial regime are readily seen. No miracle can save TPLF.

Victory to the Oppressed Peoples!!!

Jaagamaa

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 14:12

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

tulu
ABCDEFG ...

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 14:46

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Comment from: gabu [Visitor]

yahuna, u are so talkative!
wethet u like or not the real democracy will be seen in the so called ethiopia if the oppressed people gets their democracy!
do u know how many oromo intelectuals are in a prision in the so called ethiopia for not one day but for so many years ,still they are in a prison ???? u talk about siyee and his relatives !!!!

dagimo democracy bilahi atafirim taawaraalahi!!!!
liqi bitee nahi!!!

silamaatawiqaw siiyaawaruu samitahi atilaqaqii!

victory for oppressed!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 15:03

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Comment from: Selam [Visitor]

The only expertise for Meles and TPLF was international begging. Now they are even failing in that...

No wonder that they and their supporters are so bitter; listen to their comments...

When Niger was labelled as having major famine by the UN and donors, their democratic govt. proclaimed that it is nothing that the people of Niger could not handled and they did. That is how proud people behave.

BUT listen to Meles and his TPLF who are crying for failing from their number 1 position in their beggar position in the world.

We will again be a proud and respected people in the world.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 15:07

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Comment from: solomon [Visitor]

ANGEL(devil),unfortunatly there millions worms like you who have no chance to perpetrate the devil wish you are trying to advocate.the world has witnessed lots of dictators,Meles is one of theme.(your hero).what you are trying to say is, millions of poeple who perished under these brutal dictators is justified.what kind of evil are you?.go to school,you morron son of a bich.AFER BELLA!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 15:44

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Comment from: Honest [Member]

Abebe Boke,

Were you threatening Dr. Taye Woldesemayat when you said:

Abebe Boke said,

"To At Tye W/Semayat
In Ontario and Alberta Canada…. I guessed you are one of the worst criminal of the earth. I hope you are done in west or if you are going back you well come. You bustard criminal of our poor people."

You know what Mr. Boke, threats like this may fly in your lawless government ruled Ethopia but saying this over the net while in another sovereign country is illigal.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 15:54

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Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]

Thank you Honest!!!

I don't have any more word for this (Abebe Boke) idiot.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:24

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

Have you heard!!!!

The Dam consruction over Tekezie river---1st of its type in Africa!!!---for the realization of Greate independent Tigray.---You are fighting for nothing here ,but they are making their business putting up your mind busy in a such Chaos,ignore them
1.lets unite
2.dont react for such evil acts

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:26

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Comment from: How can illitrate Wayane Cadere become stop sucking? [Visitor]

I am happy with the decision of donors. I think every man loving Ethiopia and hating these illiterate suckers must be rejoicing with this decision. On one thing, I am not amazed with what “Wayane Kadere’s” wrote. You know why?... guys, 90% of “Wayane Kadere’s” are illiterate, I mean at most less than 6 grade in Ethiopian education slandered. They get to sleep on “cotton mattress” and be out of “kurbat”. How can these guys become back to “kurbat” again. They want to suck the people for ever.

This is the big strategy Wayane followed… They collect these useless illiterate cadre’s from country side and stop farming and make them to live in city. Then these illiterate guys want to die rather than go to their previous farming. You know this is the kind of illiterate people which become frustrated not to go back and live their previous life. If they loose this politics… the only option they have is to back to “kurbat and farming” as they are illiterate and unable to work other professional job. This is why these killing of innocent people all about…. It is true that literate people have at least logical mind and decided to live with their own mind if people hate them but these bands are unable to develop their logical mind, I mean they are still in pupae…..

I think if Mr. Meles is willing to deliver the authority, these lower suckers want to die to remain on their position and live better life in the expense of others. They will back to their previous life… any way…the day is not far….

Be blessed
Abel

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:32

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Comment from: Dasee [Visitor]

Happy New Year to everybody who is working hard to end the unparalleled atrocities of the TPLF.

Hopfully the new year will be the year of the demise of the TPLF. All enemies of the Ethiopian peoples such as TPLF(the new neftanya) and neftanyas will be wiped away in 2006. The new year will be the year of freedom and genuine democracy in Ethiopia.

Victory to the Oppressed Peoples!

Dasee

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:42

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Comment from: bakele [Visitor]

CUD is falling apart. because of its blunder with world bank and its evil message to those young people to put themselves in danger ,most of its supporters are completely stop any kind of communication with this cluless organization. a good example is the 48 hour vigil, there is ony 6 people who came to that place.
it is true . i was there.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:45

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Comment from: Honest [Member]

I am glad that the donors have come to their senses and are disassociating themselves from the Ethiopian government who is out to torture it's own people.

Any one can see that a Leader who is willing to round up little kids of ages 8-14, pack them up in a truck, that are packed with police men that are armed with Klashinkovs is either desperate to hang onto power or down right Crazy.

For those that are interested in looking at the pictures follow the next link;

http://www.ethiopiafirst.com/news1.html

I am angry, sad, .... that these kids are being tortured.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:48

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Comment from: mammo [Visitor]

It's the recognition, stupid. The money ain't that much. However, the fact that the world leaders understand that this guy is nothing more than a backward warlord who shoots at everybody that doesn't agree with him is big...humongous...monumental. He reduced himself to a small time thug. For those of you who blame the diaspora for this....get a life. Europeans don't give a hoot about diaspora or anybody else. When they see human rights are grossly violated, they react. Who is abusing human rights in Ethiopia? Ethiopians living in DC are shooting a 7 year old kid? Or have you seen Ethiopians from Canada or Europe shooting a woman for crying. Have you seen the diaspora go home and shoot young girls point blank? Absurd, all the suffering is the result of a few greedy bastards who are scared to death to lose their luxurious life style after giving up power. The era of ruling by force is over.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:53

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Comment from: Girma [Visitor]

Terrorist TPLF is terrorizing the Ethiopian peoples. The whole world is catching upon it. TPLF's hoodwicking of the international community is coming to an end. The grace period for the terrorist TPLF is over and the world is uniting against these tugs. TPLF is a state terrorist.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 16:53

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Comment from: mammo [Visitor]

Hey Honest,

I have just seen the pictures and am infuriated. Meles will pay for this. Nothing more to say.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:02

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Comment from: abebe boke [Visitor]

The terrorist CUD is terrerizing the Ethiopian peopl.
The unmarked CUDP and the suporters thinking that if the aid cut is real they might catch the throne, but that is just dream even if the EPRDF not the leader in Ethiopia the ethiopian people never and ever again under the rule of neftegna. Their dream is nothing but narrowing their party life.
Death for CUD.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:14

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Comment from: bekele [Visitor]

CUD is falling apart. because of its blunder with world bank and its evil message to those young people to put themselves in danger ,most of its supporters are completely stop any kind of communication with this cluless organization. a good example is the 48 hour vigil, there is ony 6 people who came to that place.
it is true . i was there.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:19

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

HAVE YOU HEARD!!!!!!!!

The DAM consruction over TEKEZIE river---1st of its type in Africa!!!---for the realization of Greate independent Tigray.---You are fighting for nothing here ,but they are making their business putting up your mind busy in a such Chaos,ignore them
1.lets unite
2.dont react for such evil acts

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:23

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Commentary
A Thank You letter to President George W. Bush
December 29, 2005

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The President

The White House

Washington, D.C, 20500

Dear Mr. President,

As an American of Ethiopian origin, I am writing to express my appreciation for your continued support of the on-going democratic process in Ethiopia and to highlight some of the vital changes that were implemented by the current government of Ethiopia.

I have seen a few letters addressed to your name posted on the internet asking you to liberate the People of Ethiopia from what they called oppression, or in the authors own words “tyranny.” I understand that these people are entitled to their opinion but when they write to the President of the United States, they should have been careful not to misrepresent the facts. As far as I know, there is no tyranny in Ethiopia. To the contrary, Ethiopians enjoy unprecedented democracy for the first time in the nation’s more than 3000-year history. The Nations, Nationalities and peoples of Ethiopia highly appreciate the current democratic change and they are committed to embrace and foster it despite frequent calls to reverse the course of history by some of the opposition groups. The people of Ethiopia know quite well the difference between tyranny and freedom for they have experienced both under the previous governments and the current government respectively. It is ironic that the Coalition for Unity and Democracy (CUD) calls the current democratically elected government a dictatorship when, in fact, many of the CUD’s leadership and most of its Diaspora supporters served the previous Marxist dictator regime that killed many innocent Ethiopians as part of its “red terror” campaign.

I am also astounded that some members of the CUD are unhappy with the current Ethiopian government’s tough stance on terrorist elements in the “Horn of Africa” and that they are trying to distract the government from its continued commitment to fight terrorism. In their press circulations, they have said that the Ethiopian government is fighting terrorists in order to please the United States and other donor countries. The truth is that the Ethiopian government has been fighting terrorism for the safety of its citizens based on the strong belief that terrorism is the enemy of all humanity. In fact, the current Ethiopian government has been fighting terrorist elements mainly along its border with Somalia since the 1990’s----way before the tragedy of September the 11th of 2001.

The current government has brought so many changes to Ethiopia and to the way things used to function in the previous administrations. Here is a list of some of the accomplishments of the current government that I believe are worth mentioning:

● Constitution: The current government introduced a constitution in 1994, and ratified in 1995 that guaranteed every Nation, Nationality, and people in Ethiopia their unconditional right to self-determination, including the right to secession. Article 39 of the constitution further grants to every Nation, Nationality and people the right to speak, to write and develop its own language; to express and promote its culture; and to preserve its history.

● Elections: The current government has helped the Ethiopian people to conduct three National elections including the recent parliamentary election that was hailed as fair and free election by world renowned election observers including the former U.S President Jimmy Carter.

● Education: The government believes education is a key factor for the improvement of the economic situation in Ethiopia. To this end, it has more than quadrupled the number of colleges and Universities in the Country within the last fourteen years and student enrollment has increased by ten fold. Ten years ago, private colleges were non-existent in Ethiopia, today; there are many of them throughout the country.

● Economy: The government encourages free market through the Ethiopian Privatization Agency (EPA) that was established in February of 1994. Since then, business entities ranging from small retail trade outlets to large-scale enterprises have been privatized. The economy has been showing consistent growth against the odds of some drought years.

● Court system: Out of its conviction to justice, the government has established for the first time an independent court system that works for the people. In today’s Ethiopia, justice is served for every citizen; no innocent person gets penalized for a crime and no one is above the law.

● The Press: Consistent with the constitution it helped to materialize, the government has given licenses to more than a hundred private Newspapers and magazines in the country. The freedom of press is a milestone achievement for the people of Ethiopia for it was unheard of in the previous governments.

● Parliamentary system: The government has introduced the first truly representative parliamentary system comprised of members elected directly by the people and responsible to the people.

Mr. President,

You would be shocked to know CUD’s fierce opposition to the aforementioned Ethiopian constitution that essentially guarantees full freedom to all Nations and Nationalities of Ethiopia regardless of their population size. The CUD preaches about unity without the consent of all members of the Ethiopian people much like the previous governments who have committed serious atrocities against the Nations and Nationalities of Ethiopia in the name of Unity. In today’s Ethiopia, every citizen is free to choose his/her destiny. This, of course, does not go well with the CUD leadership’s “one fits all” (one language and one culture) prescription for the more than Eighty distinct ethnic groups. Hence, CUD is poised to change it forcefully.

In conclusion, with the support of freedom loving countries such as the United States Great Britain and others together with the foundation laid down by the current government, Ethiopia’s future is bright and promising. To this end, I ask you, Mr. President, to continue your support to Ethiopia and its people in their struggle to realize the fruits of democracy and I thank you for that.

Sincerely yours,

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:27

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Comment from: Habtamu [Visitor]

Hi Honest!
I saw the pictures.It is really sad.As you know most of them are under 15 years.TPLF is just killing the next generation.I am sad.

Above and beyound all America still don't clear her stand.The American government is helping TPLF.I couldn't differentiate America and Chaina in Ethiopian case.It is sad for a country like America stands just like Chaina for her benefits from the poorest people.

When I was a kid and make something wrong in elementary and secondary school,We bring our families to school and the teacher or any body concerned tell what we did in school to our families and so on.Now the kids are being beaten by the so called federal police and kept them with diffrent kinds of prisoners.

By the way do you think there are religious fathers in the country?

"LE HULUM GEZEWIN YETEBIKELETAL BE MALET "

God Bless Ethiopia!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:32

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Comment from: Honest [Member]

Abebe Boke,

I feel so sad for you that you wish death to people who stand for democracy and freedom of Ethiopians everywhere. As for me I donot wish death even to the worst of the perpetrators of atrocities like Meles Zenawi and Mengistu.

But I wish liberty and the pursuit of happiness for Ethiopians in their own homeland. And I hope that they will attain it soon.

Because Ethiopians everywhere in Ethiopia are saying. "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:33

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George:

How much TPLF paid for you?-don't lie-just tell me the truth

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:34

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Comment from: araya [Visitor]

Death to woyane and his dogs.
Victroy to all ethiopians.
Happy new year!!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:38

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

nothing

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:39

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

I just used my fair mind! and love to acknowledge the good deeds.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:40

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,

You are a Big Lier!!!!!!!!!!!!
You better Die-hodam

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:43

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

naaaaaaaaaa

that is the truth

and truth sucks!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:44

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

You don't have mind-rather pumpkin.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:44

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

I am 100% sure that you are one of the TPLF loosers. Stick to the truth. I can feel you are loosig your power and breathing your last breath. It's ok for you when
Ethiopia is bleeding and young children are being killed now, but you are trying to save your boss melese and the rest of you. Too late for that.

GOD bless the cildren of Ethiopia!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:44

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

I don't expect you to love Meles, or anything outside your race. But that is the truth! and even if you don't want to believe it, it will always ping in your mind.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:45

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Comment from: yehuna [Visitor]

Dear gabu!
You have a very nice day.
take care.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:48

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace,

I hate to tell you that you are Wrong.

Try to think clear, out side of the box. Otherwise, your fate will be like Hailu Shewal or Hitler!

You don't have to see millions dieing b/c of Hailu Shewal, you have to learn how 7 million Jews die b/c of Hitler's Ignorance.......

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:48

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Comment from: abebe boke [Visitor]

Dear HONEST
Dr TAYE himself he is illegal person by saying that we have to kill the Ethiopian government by cutting aid. who hell he is? You are allowed to do such illegal preaching also instead supporting the N.AMER diaspora by teaching the right thing, Do you think that he is doing the right thing? You mean that why the secret is exposed?
Ihave an eye wittiness who saw interference of Ato TAYE on ourlife. As we got some information you guys far away in somebodies sovereign country politics which you are engaging to elect conservative party over the liberals. What is going on buddy?
I live in Ontario CANADA. As citizen we will find out who is legal or who is illegal?
Me if it is come to personal I am ready to fight such illegal manner.Go and dictate the way how you did that with military junta last time.we live in the best democratic country.Don't threat me or scare me.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:48

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,
You are just one sick person!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:49

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace,

I never been sick in my life. I am a happy and fulfiled human being. I love to think clear. I love people with humble heart.

P.s I love to teach the Ignorants

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:51

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George.
In this case teach yourself!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:53

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

I did, and I always do,

and I share my teaching

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:55

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

I tought CUD will be a competing party, and will bring a better future.---I was wrong

this is teaching my self with reality! do the same baby...otherwise oyu will be blinded and some day washed with blood..........and wahen you wake up, it is too late to say I was wrong....like CUD members in jail

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:57

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,
Then this will make a false teacher!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:57

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

Gearge,

Don't pretened!!! U R trying to cover your ignorance by your broken ideas!!!!Just live your life ,we know you know nothing!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 17:57

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

PMKR,

Don't be angry of your low self-esteem. It is ok to be angry. It is ok to be Ignorant. It is even OK to be feel less b/c of your color, race, family background and other factors.

You will learn, every day and develop a good personality! a positive trait. and some day you will realize you are capable of doing anything like everbody else.

be open
to learn,
to observer facts,
to be less emotional,
to give good comments
to criticize with good intention
even to your worest enemy.

P.s You are a human being! not a Gorella. Use your brain and think.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:05

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,

I think this is your full time job,Don't try show u r honest,probably u r teaching devils how to suck blood from humans,...

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:11

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

How in the world you can be open minded and support melese when you see children being killed?

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:12

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

PMKR

Still you need to learn a lot. not Chemistry or Physics. That is easy to learn. You need to learn logic and how to think!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:14

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Comment from: tafy [Visitor]

Tplf 4 life

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:17

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

Dear Grace,

I found that george has been hired by TPLF for his offendig ideas,and paid per comment,

ha ha he is doubling his income!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:17

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Comment from: Abel [Visitor]

Grace, Don't be amazed with what “Wayane Kadere’s” like George wrote. You know why?... , 90% of “Wayane Kadere’s” are illiterate, I mean at most less than 6 grade in Ethiopian education slandered.George is one of them. They get to sleep on “cotton mattress” and be out of “kurbat”. How can these guys become back to “kurbat” again. They want to suck the people for ever.

This is the big strategy Wayane followed… They collect these useless illiterate cadre’s from country side and stop farming and make them to live in city. Then these illiterate guys want to die rather than go to their previous farming. You know this is the kind of illiterate people which become frustrated not to go back and live their previous life. If they loose this politics… the only option they have is to back to “kurbat and farming” as they are illiterate and unable to work other professional job. This is why these killing of innocent people all about…. It is true that literate people have at least logical mind and decided to live with their own mind if people hate them but these bands are unable to develop their logical mind, I mean they are still in pupae…..

I think if Mr. Meles is willing to deliver the authority, these lower suckers want to die to remain on their position and live better life in the expense of others. They will back to their previous life… any way…the day is not far….

Be blessed
Abel

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:19

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

Don't be offended George!!!!!!!!we know the truth!!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:19

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Comment from: nuna [Visitor]

George does it even bother you women and children were gunned down by your so called democratic government, how about when they charge a 14years old boy for genocide,treason bla bla...., no it won't because for one reason or another you are blinded ( see no evil and hear no evil) seem to be your style. you are still going to tell me i don't like eprdf because we are notfrom the same race as you put itin your earlier writing,( what race??), the last i checked we are all human race, and again these days i am wondering may be eprdf and supporters come from an evil race.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:20

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace,

Let alone killing Children, killing criminals is not human! That is why most states and good human beings are trying to eliminate death-penality from the court of law.

following me?

Both of us know Meles don't want to kill the children you are claiming about. he atleast have more responsibility that you do.

They were killed b/c they were disturbing peace and killing innocent Individuals.

Was it good to kill them?

If there was another option and taking them back to prision it would have been good.

So?

I am happy the Government does not kill thousands. B/c it would have been possible when you are dealing with people confronting with police and Undermining the law.

I am happy the government arrested individuals who need to learn a little and come to their consceiousness and stop hurting the peace............

Yiketilal Grace....

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:20

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,
You have showen us your thinking ability. I think it is time for you and your alike to hung it up and watch from afar the better changing of Ethiopia.

GOD bless and ADDIOS!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:22

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Abel:

Sorry, I have a Phd in Astro-Physics. I am sure you will learn some thing from this. try to think first before assuming.

We assume to much and we believe our assumptions!!!

that is why we are not growing

that is why we are hurting people

that is why we are disagreeing

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:23

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Comment from: Abel [Visitor]

Georg,

I don't care about that. I told you the truth...Wayane Polotics is really dearty. You know few young people who must work are in preson and few illitrate are pie all around the worled to remain these suckers on power.

I am happy that the truth become clear to the world eventhough it is too late to know the truth...

I am happy if you are able to use your intellect mind for few second to judge the truth....

Be blessed
Abel

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:30

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

nuna:

EPRDF came from the human race. Don't ever think they came from the sky. Or as some old TPLF-Fanatics from North used to think, the are angels.

The fact is:

1. they had an ambition for better Ethiopia. and they sacrifice their life

2. They decided what they should do and put a plan to succeed

3. They fought for what they believe no matter how long it takes

4*. They fought for their Ideas, not in DC and sleeping in a warm bed, but in a desert sleeping under a tree.

5. They make sure you can speak what you want with out being afraid
of whom you are! and they make sure we are all equal in the face of law.

6. They created a Constitutional Base (that is Updatable)

7. They bring the possibility of private ownership

8. etc .. etc...

They did good really. However, they need to do better...much better

So how could they do better?

1. better individuals

2. better oposing parties

3. etc ... etc....

I am sure you don't want me to tell you the rest. you should know this by default under your conscious!

P.S If you don't have a vision, the guts to fulfil it, then you will only be a dreamer and a man with out success and the bad-part will be, start blaming others for your own failures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

example:

in derg time, some people fled the country

why? b/c they hate derg

then? Start oposing and dreamt a better Nation

then? they sit in Washington DC and talk everyday with their Makiyatoo

why? they didn't have the gut to fight for Democracy

then? Some body else took their dream away

then? they became men of no-Success

So? they should start blaming! What else can they do?

It is not too late to learn from past mistake. Every day is worth living and start thinking right

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:37

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Comment from: worreddes [Visitor]

George "Phd in Astro-Physics"? Well..? this is getting interesting.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:49

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Comment from: gion [Visitor]

george please tell this people. they act they don't know.all they do is talk sheet.

one ethiopia

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:51

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,

r u lying still? ,do you have phd? this is the worst...you better be an ethiopian federal police---like your brothers.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:54

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Comment from: Ethiopia ,Debretabor [Visitor]

Dear George,
I think you know what happend,
You saw all the killings by your Father Zenawi and his followers(woyanes)
Please be human and yhink like human.
Please ,pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 18:57

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Comment from: Ethiopia,Debretabor [Visitor]

Yewoyane NURO yileyal Zendro!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:05

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

Just found out you'r a big lier! You are for the money. You are a narrow minded,pleasur seeker,good for nothing.You are after your owen interest. Go featch a dog since there are a lot of them in TPLF and EPRDF!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:06

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

Guys I'm a programmer I'll release a software that will detect "CYBER_TAGAYS" from each blogs and ....Its in beta version.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:06

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

PMKR:

It is lovelly.You are now getting Smarter. That is how people learn. Better, it is in Beta version. Hope to See the final version.

but, the intention behind your innovation will make it hard to meet the dead lines.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:15

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

People,

do you know Birhanu Nega was TPLF???????????????

I just read an article

http://dehai.org/archives/dehai_news_archive/jul-aug05/0968.html

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:16

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace,

I am wondering. You seem to be highly angry, too emotional, less mature, and after all assuming.

Your emotion is affectiong your personality and thus your happiness.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:22

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Debretabor:

My father is no Zenawi.....I wish he was. I would have been proud of him. His logical analysis, his way of handling things dispite uncountable problems...and hate...and above all:

I admire him for his vision, his dedication to get what he wants all his life! and his courage to lead a nation with problems that root from poverity, racisim to ignorance....

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:25

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,

Hadn't been for terms and conditions of nazret.com,I would tell you your IP adress

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:26

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

You are making me laughe. I Phileo for this.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:27

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

George, Please see below. You said 1. they had an ambition for better Ethiopia. and they sacrifice their life I say, They led TPLF. They had an ambition to librate Tigrai & Ertrea. They used the opportunity of Derg's failure to grasp the power to full fill their goal. They d ]\on't have no love for Ethiopia. You said: 2. They decided what they should do and put a plan to succeed. I say They plan was to divided Ethiopia by tribe, make here divided. They succeeded. You said:3. They fought for what they believe no matter how long it takes. I say, yes they did but their beleive was not in the best interst of Ethiopia. Rather in the best interst of EPLF & TPLF. You....4*. They fought for their Ideas, not in DC and sleeping in a warm bed, but in a desert sleeping under a tree. I ...Yes. But they did to fullfill the TPLF agenda of dividing Ethiopia not to bring democracy to our people. You ..5. They make sure you can speak what you want with out being afraid of whom you are! and they make sure we are all equal in the face of law. I...they say we can speak our language as far as we can be ruled by them & as far as it fulfills their startegy of Divided & Rule. We all are not equal under the law. TPLF is the law. They can break the law but even if you didn't break the law, they can say you did break the law & they make you pay for it. You....6. They created a Constitutional Base (that is Updatable) I...the constitution is TPLF program. No real imput from the people, & others with different view from TPLF. You...7. They bring the possibility of private ownership I...They did in part to get rich with state property & also to get aid money from the west by pretending they are free marketrs. If they are, why is the land the most productive asset is under the control of the gov. George don't just write also think.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:33

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George

Don't be scared !!!,you have to Know the truth. if you want to live peacefully,let your mind to know what is bad and what is good---Don't be like animals!!!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:55

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Le me tell you some reality:

I used to have Tigrian friends. They were too proud of them Selves. I used to hate them for their naive, fanatic view and support to TPLF. They used to believe TPLF or nothing. We used to discuss about Oposition political parties and they always tell me that the oposition party is too un-mature let alone to lead a Country, to even accept responsibility in little matters like practicing the law.

I know they are too pessimist to dismiss the fact that there might be other people with well balanced views about the Nation as a whole and whose mere intention and belief is not to prosper their families nor a betterment of life for them Selves but to bring about change, democracy and development.

I also have Amhara friends (lots of them) who were unhappy b/c of the Success of TPLF/EPRDF from North. They also have this Untangible, and less mature view about Situations around the country. They also fear the hate from the South, specially the Oromo's. Then comes CUD, lead by an arrogant leader (I ask your pardon....he is), who does not even know what to talk infront of BBC and what not. He is not better than the current Iranian President! though I respect other person's support for him, I don't really know why! besides being racist....they supported him.

I feel pity for Dr. Birhanu Nega, I think he had made a mistake with out conscions or he was less smarter to be a Victim. I hope he is not in jail, let alone prosecution.

Lidetu Ayalew...a smart man who knows what he should do. I admire all his decisions. not led by emotions. know his territories. I support his idea of opposing EPRDF...by tangible visions, ideas, etc... Don't forget: EPRDF is still the government! However democratic they are, they might still attack you for little mistake you make unless you are smart....and know your moves

I used to have some Oromo friends. Who are fanatic with OLF. I agree Oromia was opressed by previous regims, which is a fact. Native Americans are even more opressed by people from europe. But now, Oromo's are respected as Individuals like evrybody else, and they have all the right to ask for soverignity and besides they don't need to ask respect from others, b/c it is their right.But this demand should not be based on mere dislike to other races or moved by emotion....

and the fact is, Let alone Oromia, Ethiopia has to even Unite with other african countries to solve problems with poverity and solve issues with Globalization and Oromia won't be going out, and there is no need for that, we might even bring Eritrea, Djibouti, Sudan Kenya back together in the near future not just b/c we want to, but b/c of the current situation we are facing in the world

I am tired of typing....

anyways, all of us make mistake but lets not make mistake knowingly. don't Let the past history blinded us from seeing the truth. Lets support this Government in what it is doing good and give good critic in areas where they are poor and make sure that at the end we all are bettered of economically as a nation and Individual. lets stop thinking Democracy is a one day thing, it is a process and don't expect full democracy from the Government, as it is a fact of life. But We if we want can bring better democracy working hand in hand with the government.

Through time, we will have a perfect Government (atleast better), which represent the people, responsible, less hated, and brings prosperity to the whole nation.......

Ok guys?

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 19:57

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Yoman:

They fight for Tigray, ofcourse!

tell me are you going to help me if I had financial problems before helping your families (brothers and sisters)? hell noooooo

you start with your family, you care for your Dad, Mom, bros. Then you start thinking with people who grow up with you.

then you start thinking about your region. people whome you know, whome you communicate better with, whose tax money helped you get educated..

then you start talking baout a country.

then you start talking about your contenent (pan-Africa)

then you start talking about the human--race

if you are still a better human?

you will start thinking about animal rights. and search for extra teresterial-races to communicate with and know better about the Universe............

this we call it Scientifically

"Bottom-Up-Approach"

If you start from the Top.....you will vanish with out doing anything real........believe me, before caring for your family, before becoming a better parrent, you can't have the moral backup to even lead your life letalone leading millions of people......

Meles is doing that......and yet you hate him. it is your right. but by hating him you are hurting your self............

Grace,

the smae thing for uuuuuuu baby girl

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:05

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

George, All your point of views are based & used tribal backgrounds of individuals. Such thing - I asy it is disease (acute tribal mentality syndrome) is not excepted from one who declares "I have a PHD..." That is the major problem in Ethiopia. Since TPLF came to power we see every thin on "tribal eyeglasses" Sad, very sad!

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

There is nothing wrong knowing your etinic background.

the problem is when you start thinking your race is better or less

I am black...so what (for the whites)

I am ethiopian so what?

I am tigre so what?

i am oromo so what?

If I Said I am Oromo, it says something about me and I use it.
-it means, I grow up in Oromiya region, speak Oromiffa, love to chill around that big Tree in the flag, etc ........

So there is nothing wrong knowing your etinicity as there is nothing wrong with saying I am black. (even if you don't say I am black, remember you skin color tells something and you can't lie....if you were ashemed of it ofcourse, which you shouldn't)

stop hating.....you will only hurt ur self

start loving and respecting....

If you have a Phd? say you have b/c it tells that you had invested some years of your life in education and have some experience with some staff (Ur area of study) if I need a Phd, I might hire you.

b/t don't think (ever) that you are better b/c you have a Phd

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:18

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

Do you know that there is a rift between meles and seyoum, and between seyoum and sebhat? TPLF is craking and it is a good signe!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:21

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Comment from: Yoman [Visitor]

George, You make everything so simple. You said you start helping your mother & end up with helping your country. This not a matter heping your mother to buy a bread. This was a struggle to difeat dictotor & save a country. Using your analogy, when I help my mother if my next noughber boy tried to help the village, I don't distroy him. That what TPLF did to EPRP. This is an evidence that TPLF is not to save Ethiopio rather liberate Tigray & Ertrea. As I say before the accidentally graped the power & procedded with the agenda of dividing us. If Meles likes Ethiopia, why he called our flag, piece of cloth & our history ... teret teret of 100 years. We could discuss more but I have to leave. Later.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:26

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace,

I don't care if there is a crack. The moment they are incapable of leading this country, Some one will.

It is not about them, it is about the nation!

Something to teach you:

Darwin's principle of evolution

"Who he is the fittest will Servive!"

So as long as TPLF does something good, better than the others they will Servive. The moment they start loosing their compase, some one will took over!

But there has to be some one who is ready. are you ready to lead the country?

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:27

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

Answer this.
Who came first, the egg or the chicken?

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:32

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,

Without writing any code, I got you again,you are really one of "Cyber_Tagays" ,who are paid per comment by TPLF.you are writing in this blog for more than 4 hours in this buseness country(offcourse you are paid 10 X double).

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:33

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Yoman:

it is as simple as that.

and no body hates you if you love your neighbour before your mother. though it does not make sense and unless your mother was the neighbourhood.

but if you have a bad intention in the name of helping neighbour? then you are messing up and then comes the Government.

Some Facts:
----------------------
NGO's help poor people: right

Government sometimes exclude NGO's

you know why? b/c they took money in the name of the poor then they spend that money in Hawaii....the poor then gets nothing....and the Gov will be blamed finally......

When there is famine in ethio, the Government says only 1 million are in need of AID, then what do the UN people say?? the Government is lying, there are 15 million seeking aid?

Why?

the money the UN gets for 15 mill is much greater that the money they get for 1 million. So they are securing a Salary for the rest of the Year......to honeymoon where ever they like.....

I worked in UN while I was back home, they do less and almost nothing........almost all money goes to paying Salary to Sira-At forigners........

Miskin Government will be blamed finally...thanks to you guys also ... the NGO's will be believed than the Gov't and Aid will be cut...............

bottom line:

the Current Government is Poor though they did marvellous things out of such calamities. they are doing good even if most of US are against them.......

Think for a moment, What if we had helped them? Won't they make something better than they did? ofcourse

But We always come up with an execuse to do our part

Some of our execuses

- I am amhara and Meles is Tigre..

I say bulsheet.....

- The money I contribute to the people won't reach them

atlease some will reach. and if everybody work closely those guys who steal the money will be reduced and finally all our contribution will show fruit

etc ... etc...

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:39

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Comment from: mammo [Visitor]

Dr. Berhanu Nega is a hero.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:39

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

PMKR:

It is holliday....I am having rest

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:40

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace:

Who came first,

Chicken or Egg?

Though a difficult question, I will show you how to logically give a hypothesis about something like this.

1. If I had an egg, and put the egg some where where the tempreture is favourable, then I will get a new chicken after 21 days

2. If it was the chicken who came first? then how?

everything boils down cells, protiens, DNA's, amino acids

1st came Single cell organismes

then they evolve to Multi-Cellular Organisms

then they start to evolve into different forms

then came .....fill the blank baby

if you think all this is wrong, don't blame me, blame Charles-Darwin. This is the only better hypothesis we had at this moment, But as a scientest, we are investigating to comeup with a better explanation, if there is any!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:46

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Comment from: Grace [Visitor]

George,

Hard for you to answer?

In this case Darwin's principel of teaching evolution is nothing but trash. So does your thinking. In the beginning GOD....

GOD BLESS!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:54

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PMKR:

Let alone tracing IP, I wonder if you can write "Hello World" application in C

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:54

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Grace:

Who was before God? another God???

Come on you can think better

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:55

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Comment from: mammo [Visitor]

George,

PHD my foot. You don't have jack on anything. A PHD requires a mind of thorough thinking. People of that stature are restrained by their moral boundaries. You are a simple low life greedy TPLF cadre. You are someone working at the Ethiopian embassy probably as a TPLF agent spying on local Ethiopian community. Your fate is doomed. It is just a matter of days. After that your phony PHD will translate into a parking lot attendant. See you soon, woyane gangsta.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:56

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

Darwin's principle is not about God.

It is about before God.It is about the Origin of life! The origin of God him self if there is.

did you understand?? or hard to comprehend?

there is a difference b/n God and how he came to existance

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:57

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

mammo :

Thank you for your comment.

You can have a Phd if you want. You only need a brain and I am sure you have it. use it.....

be less emotional....

start thinking logically

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 20:59

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mammo:

and don't be angry just b/c others have Phd.....that is the mentality which is killing our nation

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 21:00

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Comment from: George [Visitor]

It is good to know how diverse people thinking is. How narrow One can be.

thanks everybody

I want to hit the road and have some good time with offline-friends

Don't forget: Hating others will only make your life miserable! nothing much, and nothing less!

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 21:06

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Comment from: mammo [Visitor]

George,

As I said, people with that kind of caliber are too restrained and humbled to surf around the web listing their credentials. You wouldn't have probably pronounced them right if I told you what I had accomplished. Therefore, I suggest you zip it. Don't worry if I had/could have had a PHD. Just don't torture the known PHD holders like DR. Berhanu Nega in prison. Or are you still looking for more PHD holders to satisfy your master's blood thirst for educated people? Not me, thanks.

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 21:09

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Comment from: PMKR [Visitor]

George,/SORRY -DR.gEoRgE/

main()
{
printf("AT LEAST YOU SHOULD HAVE MORAL VALUE\n");
}
R U HAPPY-RUN IT ON YOUR BOLD STONE HEAD

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 21:09

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Comment from: george [Visitor]

there is an error: but u performed good

#include

void main(){
...
}

remember not specifying the return type will make ur program not to compile..

printf is an Unknown function unless ....... u know what i mean

Permalink 12/30/05 @ 21:31

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Comment from: george [Visitor]

mamoo: tony blair does not have a phd....

having a phd does not qualify u to be a leader it just tells u know so

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