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Ethiopia: Does Meles Zenawi still believe large-scale farms as "patently stupid"?

11/29/09

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Ethiopia: Does Meles Zenawi still believe large-scale farms as "patently stupid"?

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Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi

Ethiopia: Does Meles Zenawi still believe large-scale farms as "patently stupid"?

Stephanie McCrummen of The Washington Post wrote a front-page story on the Post last Monday chronicling about the leasing of Ethiopian land to foreign investors. The story has been syndicated at many other major papers around the world. What she does not say in the story is whether Ethiopian farmers have been forced off the land or not. Although she wrote that, Ethiopian farmers were told that they can no longer water their cows at a river which is now being used solely for irrigation. Here is what she wrote, "From there it was possible to see a river designated for irrigating cornfields and rice paddies; it is no longer open for locals to water their cows."

Ethiopia has set aside farm land almost the size of Belgium for agribusiness and last year Meles Zenawi was asked by Financial Times, if they [investors] will be given land which is not being farmed at the moment. And Meles Zenawi said yes, and we certainly hope that is the case that no Ethiopian farmers are being forced off their land to make room for foreign 'investors'.

In August 2008, Ethiopia's Prime Minister Meles Zenawi was asked why Ethiopian government focused on small-scale agriculture. Here is an excerpt from the interview with the Financial Times.

FT: One comment I’ve heard from several people about agriculture is that the government has been focusing very much, as you said, on commercialising small-scale farms. But these people say is you should be focused on big-scale farming and creating large commercial enterprises, because that’s the way to prevent a recurrence of the food shortages. Why have you decided to focus on the small scale rather than go big?

Meles Zenawi: Because the alternative is patently stupid.

FT: Why is that?

MZ: Let’s look at two factors. The first factor is the availability of capital and savings in this economy. There are very, very low savings and very limited capital availability. If we were to invest in large-scale, commercial, mechanised farming, then we would have to deplete whatever savings we have in establishing these large-scale farms, and what do we get in return? We get in return some employment, but not much. If we were to focus on the commercialisation of small-scale farming, we wouldn’t need that much capital. We would be using the excess resource we have, which is labour and land, and we would be combining these two without too much capital to produce more. Secondly, we would be employing millions of people on their farms and giving them income. The problem that we face this year is not about production. It’s about income distribution and income distribution in Ethiopia is not going to be improved by abandoning small-scale farms and concentrating on large-scale farms. Fortunately in our case, to the extent that capital can be imported from abroad, we can do both because we have unutilised land in the lowlands where there is not much labour and we can combine that with foreign capital to supplement the small-scale farming. Such supplementary large-scale commercial farming is part of our strategy, but it is not the central piece of our strategy.

FT: And this is why you were meeting a delegation from Saudi Arabia a couple of weeks ago?

MZ: Yes, and many other investors including those who are involved in flower farms, horticulture and so on.

FT: They will be given land which is not being farmed at the moment?

MZ:
Yes, and we have quite a bit of it, in the western lowlands and part of the eastern lowlands. We have a shortage in the central highlands and that’s where 70-80 per cent of the population live.

FT: But your strategy remains focused on the small scale?

MZ: Yes, because the small-scale farms are where we have the 9m households and what happens there determines their income. Large-scale commercial farming is not going to create millions of jobs and without those jobs, even if we had mountains of food in the country, it would not mean that people had access to that food.

FT: Because they wouldn’t have money to buy it?

MZ: They wouldn’t have the money to buy it and that has been the real problem here. It is not the availability of food. It’s the availability of money in the pockets of individuals.

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Is it a good policy to lease farm land to foreign investors or not? How about privatization of land, do you support or oppose? Have your say

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msg Comment from: alex [Visitor]
the land can take only a limited number of cycles of farming, after which it will have exhausted its essential minerals and become useless.
The government will not control the type and amount of chemicals(fertilizer and pesticide) these investors will use. So the food produced is likely to be unhealthy because the investors will look only at PROFIT.
So consider employing people in other sectors and leave farming for nationals.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 02:32

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msg Comment from: addiiss [Visitor]
Well Meles has given you a clear answer and yet again, you pose his answer in the form of a question... who is sounding "patently stupid " here?
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 03:06

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msg Comment from: Lij [Visitor]
It is a loss because:

land will be scarce in the coming years as it is. This arrangment is not sustainable to the communities or farmers or even to Ethiopia in the long run.

labor and wages are badly negotiated in africa that the worker gains nothing but long hours of work and constant striving to make it and to survive. Thus the poor are kept poor. Like in UAE, where there are 1.1 million indentured workers that have no rights to anything, not even to their passports. It is pure injustice.

The environment will be desroyed forever when you have commercial farming and gold or other mining. Only communities with a higher socio economic status are able to thwart such arrangments when looking at several similar cases. Otherwise communiteis are compromised and their health and well being is in the balance as a result of greed.

It will cause so much health issues such as diabetes, heart attack, obesity that Africa will have the perfect storm unable to provide healthcare to its population due to a change in the diet caused by the GM and pesticides and fertilizers.

It will forever change the food/farm/community dynamics, this means not knowing where and how food is grown. Biofuel and animal feed has got to go and we need to return to small family farming.

This is a fight western nations are having to put up with, we will placed in the same predicament but with little resource to change things when they get bad.

PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 03:16

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msg Comment from: bryanvalley [Visitor]
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PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 03:33

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msg Comment from: Cheaters [Visitor]
Why are this people are always cheating my poor and largely uneducated,helpless,hungry people.

The issue is not about large scale or small scale farming.It is about long term issues.First,by alowing foreign farming to farm in ethiopia whatever produced will be shiped to their respective country.This would not solve ethiopians years long hunger problem.This is actually one form of colonization.Secondly,ethiopia will lose foreign exchange money.It is like the forigners farming coffee and selling to the world and taking the money themselves.

Finaly,the land will degrade for farming for future generations.

If this kind of colonization continues by Europians,Arabs,or whoever we will defend our country with whatever way possible.

This is a warning as well as an advice!
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 04:05

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msg Comment from: Nahom [Visitor]
I agree with Meles 100%. We have surplus arable land and surplus human labor; however, we do not have capital to finance large scale farming or transform the subsistence farming economy that millions depend on to large scale commercial farming any time soon. Assuming the farm land lease plan succeeds, then it will create jobs and generate additional tax income to the state. It is not a land grab exercise as some tend to argue; it is a give and take process. Its most important aspect in my view is its influence in introducing and transforming the existing backward farming method to a resourceful and advanced farming technique in a very short period of time.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 04:52

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msg Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
I don't see anything wrong in leasing ideal land to be used by foreign inversters that will contribute to the economy and also bring a new farming technology in to the age old farming techniquies in Ethiopia. Ethiopia have a lot of unutilized land. The PM had said it in plain English that this large scale farming is not the central policy but empowering the mojority of small scale farmers is the central theme of the policy, land leasing and large scale farming is supplementary. Why is that reporters are focusing on what is supplementay?

There is no point in arguing if land is privatize production will increase, any argument around this area have nothing to do with production but ideology.

What is shoking is the disperate media attempt to give a picture of Ethiopian farmers are being forced out of their land and forbidden to use local rivers is just not a normal report. The question is why is that this fabrication is needed?

This was the same way the western media have declared war on Mengestu H/Mariams settlement (sefera) policy of moving farmers from drought area to green area. Through an intensive media campaign and the support of Ethiopian elites they paraliszed the holy idea of settlement which would have brought economic change and also would have destroyed ethnic attachment to the land.

WHEN THE MEDIA IS CRYING HARD OUTSIDE ETHIOPOIA IT IS MOST LIKELY ETHIOPIA IS IN A DECISIVE TURNING POINT TO ESCAPE FORM THE FOOD AID BONDAGE, HENCE THE CRY.

PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 05:19

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msg Comment from: dave [Visitor]
I think it is a well calculated move, and the prime minister seems to know what he is talking.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 05:35

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msg Comment from: I Love Ethiopia [Visitor]
The article said it all. I love it
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 06:31

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msg Comment from: Hiluf [Visitor]
Is Meles Zenawi debilitating?? I taught he was a stalinist or Marxist-lenininst? Why is he unable to take a lesson from Russia or China? What is going on with this man?

We need to give the land to ethiopians. There are many ethiopians who have enough capital to invest in commercial farming. Foreigners will abuse the farming. The could corrupt the government to evade any illegal use of land.

The best option is joint venture. The government should invest in large scale farming. The government should encourage private farming with full indepedence. The farmers in Ethiopia have no rights because the ruling party does not trust them or forces them to support the ruling party. If Meles Zenawi is genuinely interested in commercial farming, there is none better than the ethiopian farmers.

Meles Zenawi should have taken a lesson from Zimbabwe. This is only capable to destroy communities. He is continuing his hidden mission of dismembering and colonizing ethiopians. We have to stand up and save our country.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 06:43

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msg Comment from: Mikiyas [Visitor]
I don't see any problem with this argument. I guess large scale farming should be given a space in the economy since small scale farming hasn't done anything for almost 30-40 years now.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 07:01

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msg Comment from: melosovich [Visitor]
=> Ethiopia is fast becoming part of the Sahara Desert. Why?

=> Because the land is being abused by farmers who have no interest in taking care of the land because
=>1) The land does not belong to them

=>2) Those who do not want to own land are forced to own land just because not doing so would be forfeiting what little free resource they can inherit.

THEREFORE...PRIVATIZATION OF LAND IS THE ANSWER because then only those people who care for the land can own it and those who do not will be free to sell it and move on with their lives.

ON THE OTHER HAND, LEASING THE LAND TO SAUDI ARABIAN INVESTORS WHO HAVE NO

1)Interest or obligation to consider the welfare of the nation as a whole

2)No experience taking care of a fertile land

3)More likely than not will be involved in the internal politics of the nation (hence internationalizing TPLF's every problem)

...will have very sever consequence for the people. The Saudi's are solely concerned about how much food they can grow and SHIP to Saudi Arabia and i bet you a million dollars, they won't be planting any trees or offending Egypt by building a dam any time soon.

The use of pesticides and inorganic fertilizers with reckless abandon, the killing and clearing of several thousand hectares of forestry, the religious conflict that is inevitable will throw the nation further into the darkness. I gurantee you that Ethiopia will be soon part of the Sahara Desert.



PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 07:20

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msg Comment from: kumnegert Y [Visitor]

In absence of relevant information and transparency, it is difficult to say one way or the other as to what is going to take place. The only thing that is certain is that this policy is driven by short term objective of the incumbent government to widen its revenue base i.e. to find another source of foreign currency.
Given the prevailing situation in the world, with climate change, recurring droughts, huge structural changes in culture of food consumption, It will be difficult to see the long term benefit of this effort for Ethiopia. To know why, read the scenario below.
This kind of policy change requires careful deliberations among the citizens of the country so that everyone in Ethiopia is aware of what is going, only in that case can they supports the ideas without sabotaging it. In addition to that it requires a very a good policy regarding land usage, export, labor relation on the ground beforehand supported by legislation to protect the benefits of Ethiopia, her natural resources and the right of Ethiopians farm workers. And there have to be a transparent policy with regards to the term and references of lease given to the potential investors, the bid process and so on
Ethiopia has never been able to feed herself due to the poor management in agriculture sector by successive governments. It is unwise to give out land to foreigners before giving the chance to Ethiopians with the same term and references like the fernijes. Two years back, I have tried to secure a 30 He farm land, and my successive attempt to acquire exususitve information by calling three Embassies in Europe didn’t materialize in me getting adequate information, Except for one, and the others weren’t able to give me the information. In one case the trade attaché give me non-direct information which I thought were at least something to start with up until he told me the policy is be actively revised it is better to wait. Forget about me let me share with you what I think will happen in one case scenario:
• Mr. Sign and Sheik Al saudi will take up fertile land in Ethiopia,
• will borrow money from Ethiopian bank guaranteed by the country of origin
• will hire Ethiopians farm workers with minimum wage ( farmers will be forced by conditions of life to work at lower wage as labor is excessively abundant. BTW farming is not known to be a very good in creating employment. Yes the land given might be virgin land, it doesn’t nesscerly mean we have enough land for all people living in densely populated area , in some areas up to 2000 /KM2 )
• will start to exploit the land and produce outputs,
• Will enter into a long term contract with a buyer at a fixed price in their own respective countries. The buyer on paper may be a different physical or judicial person but in a reality it will be the same investors
• If current trend will prevail, which I believe it will, the price of agriculture products in absolute and relative terms will rise significantly and rapidly,
• And the importers will secure their profits in a second market, of course on higher return, but paying tax to Ethiopia on initial price which you guess will be lower than the market. Remember in market economy contracts are the holy of holy.
• As result Ethiopia might be forced to buy its own produce at higher price in second market to feed her own citizens.
• In the end Ethiopian gains might amount to nothing.
The lack transparency, the absence of rule of law, the endemic nature of corruptions is a fertile ground for scenarios described above.
If you think this can’t happen, please do not insult me but let me know why it can’t happen.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 07:33

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msg Comment from: Lasta [Visitor]
I just returned from Ethiopia last week. This time I visited only Gojam’s Monasteries, it’s used to be water fall (it simply doesn’t exist any more or it is equivalent to a piss of a cow).and did a big deal of talk with our people.

This is my first time to visit Gojam and have found it to be one of the most prospers of Ethiopians provinces. We drove all the way from Addis to Bahar Dar and to see the green flat land of Gojam, and Lake Tana gives you inevitably a hope that Ethiopians one day could feed ourselves.

We made several stops to discuss with the farmers about their living conditions.

On the surface it seems Gojam is richer because Teff is 100USD for 100kg. And almost all the harvest in Gojam is Teff. But when you talk to the farmers they are much poorer than the population of Lasta/Lalibela whom I visited last year. I talked for an hour with one of the farmers who were bare foot and wearing a short without distinctive color. I asked him how in the world didn’t have a shoes and couldn’t afford to buy a pair of trousers at least once year after he sold his harvest? What he told me could resume simply the politics of SOB Meles. After he sold his harvest most of the money goes to buy fertilizer. That means directly to the pocket of TPLF’s companies. The rest goes to pay taxes and feed his family. And this is only when there is normal rain, if not he could end up the year as a debtor to the TPLF companies. In other words his condition is almost permanently precarious. And the small-scale farming is the way the dogs who are squatting our Menelik Palace system to control the poor farmers of our people. The method of farming in Gojam is like it used to be 2000 years ago; it is not even like in the middle age’s of Europe.

After discussing with highly qualified people in the Agricultural field, if we made large scale farms in Gojam, we could feed half of Ethiopia without any problem. But Meles the mad dog is arguing here about capital when there is no alternative to save our nation from famine except large scale farms. He is giving our land to the Arabs because he gets millions of dollars in commission. So, for the moment almost 70% of Gojam’s population, with a beautiful rich country didn’t have shoes. And it is heart breaking to see those tiny girls in Bahar Dar bare foot selling chewing gums until 9 O’clock in the evening. This is not a theory, rather an objective reality I found on the ground just a week ago. What patently stupid is Meles and small scale farms.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 09:03

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msg Comment from: Deme [Visitor]
The best thing for dictator melese to do is begging. Please keep begging.

Canada, Please feed me.
USA, please feed me and feed my people.
UK, please feed me and feed my supporters.
Euro, please feed me first and feed my people.
Australia, please feed me, but not feed any opposition group. Let them die.

It is not my gov't fault we have over 9 millions starved people here.

I'll be very polite and beg. Please feeeeeeed me!! Please keep send all kinds of aids, my economy will grow double digit. You know.

Dictator melese and his evil supporters are the worest person in this planet.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 09:07

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msg Comment from: Samuel Yohanes [Visitor]
Diplomats are concerned that African countries, many of which face problems of chronic hunger, are giving away vast tracts of farmland almost for free in return for vague promises of job creation and spending on infrastructure.

The UN and the World Bank are walking a tightrope in drawing up a code of conduct, however, as they do not want to undermine all foreign direct investment in agriculture, which they believe can offer opportunities for development.

The difficulty was reflected in a declaration
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 10:18

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msg Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
Deme [Visitor]

Deme DOMA RAS can you also make some DOMA RAS comments about this info coming out of the USA.

"The Safety Net
Across U.S., Food Stamp Use Soars and Stigma Fades

MARTINSVILLE, Ohio — With food stamp use at record highs and climbing every month, a program once scorned as a failed welfare scheme now helps feed one in eight Americans and one in four children...

From the ailing resorts of the Florida Keys to Alaskan villages along the Bering Sea, the program is now expanding at a pace of about 20,000 people a day..."

Don't also forget my friendly question about your academic background, if you are man enough to tell me.

PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 10:29

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msg Comment from: Ali roble [Visitor]
Wait untill you read my upcoming book about the topic entitled "The Real Melez: Mallowed Marxist or Mitget Capitalist.";D Why not me when I heard even butcher col. Menegistu is writting his interesting and long waited memoir by many loyal habeshas called " Guts, Gore and Gone with Winds" You got the point!
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 10:50

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msg Comment from: Deme [Visitor]
Extraterrestrial,

Some thing get under your skin, dictatorlover. You claim you are not in US now. Stop telling the fake story. We know you are here for sure. You are not with a dictator melese. Stoppppppp Bullllll Ssssss ttttttt everoney on nazert.com.

I do not want my tax payer money go to Ethiopian used for dictator dinner. I want my money only go for starved Ethiopian people.

Here in US, it is up to us whree our money goes. In Ethiopia you are lucky we even offer you a help.

Your evil dictator begged for help, that's why the US responed with kindness. US or any G7 nations never asked for help. You do not see starved people here no matter how poor they are. Only in Ethiopia you can see millions of starved people all the time.

Why do not you tell us where or what kind of school you went? Who paid it? USAids or Canadaids or UKaids? Please remember Ethiopian does not have money to feed it won citizen. Be honest this time.

Dicator melese and his evil supporters are the worest person in this planet.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 11:28

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msg Comment from: xx [Visitor]
melosovich ...I like your perspective.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 11:37

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msg Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
Deme [Visitor]

Deme DOMA RAS, did you found out what MEDEBERYA mean or do you want me to tell you? The choice is yours but let me know as soon as you dicide.

PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 11:56

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msg Comment from: Deme [Visitor]
Extraterrestrial,

Yes, I did. Thank you very much for you help and kindness. My comments give you some thing to do and some time make you laugh big time.

Please remember dictator melese also a DOMA RAS. He was not born in Addis. He is from zulu land Adigrat. Please, becareful you may go to Kaliti prision for offending your master.

Have a nice day. I have to watch NFL.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 12:12

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msg Comment from: Derese [Visitor]
Unless Tplf and Melsse are destroyed for good ,they will sell Ethiopia including their base,Tigray.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 12:57

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msg Comment from: Hiluf [Visitor]
Wake up Ethiopians! We have to errect a government for the people of Ethiopia. We cannot watch our country and people dwindeling. We have talked much. Time to act. G 7 is right that we have to do what it takes to get our freedom.

Meles and his henchman do not have any social base. They are cheaters and traitors. It is time we do take more co-ordinated action with the aim of replacing Meles's government with any means necessary. Meles and henchmen are intoxicated with power. They think the few guns they have could save them. A million demonstrators in Addis could end Zenawi's government. Zenawi's armed boys may kill some citizens, but they can not kill our determination and decision to take our country in our hand.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 14:02

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msg Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Meles sold Tigray to Shaebia already. Meles agricultural policy is disaster and he is acting not as Ethiopia from his heart but as a temporary occupier live for the day. The best brain woyane had are looking from the outside right now and the illiterates and Kumarteghoch manipulators following Meles’s foot steps doing anything to stay in power on the expense of others. If Woyane to stay strong and play a big role the future of Ethiopian politics, Woyane members has to get ride of Meles and reform the organization.

The problems in EPRDF party is there is no any person who has different ideas and challenge Meles proposals or initiatives. Everyone of them are simply the follower of Meles and implement his order no matter what even if he order them to sale their wives they will do in heart beat to make happy their boss.

Meles does not like a long term plan that does not show something the next day. If he thinks the country does not have enough capital to do the large farming by Ethiopians, why he is allowing many filthy rich Ethiopians to import Hammer, Japan and European very expensive cars to the country paying hard currency capital and importing more Oil to accommodate those rich Ethiopians using again the country’s hard currency capital???

The amount of capital rich Ethiopians are wasting for luxurious importing goods could have been enough to import capital goods farming ecquipments to set up large scale farming by Ethiopians and change the miserable condition of Ethiopian standard of living for good and change the image perception of the country on the eye of the world,

If Melse and other like him spent 17 years in a very painful life in jungle fighting enemy Derg, why he does not advocate the new generation of Ethiopians including the heartless rich Ethiopians to sacrifice today for better tomorrow and engage them in producing goods the general people need???

The difference between Meles Zenawi and Issayas Afewerki of Eritrea is Meles make decision based what good for him to stay in power today and tomorrow and implements his decision. Meles also does not have the love of the country in his heart to see the country becomes strong economically and military after his power span. Whereas Issayas despite some of his weakness he tries to do big things for the next generations. He mobilizes the population to make sacrifices today for better tomorrow. Despite the barren land in Eritrea he set up large scale farming and imported so many farming tractors and built small Dams in very running water rivers during the raining season made by Eritreans. He build roads made by Eritreans, he wants Eritreans to be self sufficient in near future through hard work not donations from outside. The one thing Eritreans despise is hand out from outside; they rather loot from their neighboring countries like Sudan, Kenya, South Sudan and Ethiopian if they can than begging to foreign rich countries. Issays does not believe any foreign rich countries have the obligation of feeding his people. He strongly believes every human being is responsible for his action and has to work hard to make it. Issayas loves Eritrea and he told the world Ethiopia has the potential to feed all East African countries if the right people are leading the country.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 14:32

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msg Comment from: ajirea [Visitor]
Why would large-scale farming be a "patently stupid," idea and yet serve as "a partial solution," as he put it?
Blind and emotional response on the part of the PM, and only a result of a blood pressure spike when a real nerve was struck!

I am not underestimating the problem at hand, but obviously, the regime and this man at the helm are in over their heads to solve the country's fundamental food shortage problem.

No fibbing, prevaricating or equivocating and evading the real issues will bring you closer to the solution.
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msg Comment from: Sam [Visitor]
I have heard persistent rumors, some might say truth, about Meles having MBA. Whenever I read a topic related to Ethiopian economy which he was part of the discussion, I do doubt the validity of the rumor or truth, admitting the difference about the two is dependent upon whom you are talking to. Meles' disdain for large-scale farming is a known. His reason for not embracing such an idea,he believes,the country does not have capital, according to him, which is necessary if such plan is to be implemented. He seemed,however, to have discovered a novel idea to overcome the shortcoming.In one of his response to a journalist question Meles acknowledges "capital can be imported from abroad, we can do [small-scale and large-scale farming] because we have unutilised land in the lowlands where there is no much labor." Taking Meles's sudden understanding of the lack of labor in the lowlands as true though,one could wonder why it took twenty years to figure that out? I do not think farmers suddenly over the weekend departed from fertile lands leaving it for foreigners to fill the vaccuum. To answer that question one has to evaluate how Meles's political thinking functions. Meles's--I paid much attention over the years-- political calculation is seasonal. He only believes coming with an answer that might satisfy at least his dire supporters for a particular given time is what needs his answer to be consist of. In plain language Meles has a political handicap in having a broad vision about the country beyond the moment. Denouncing large-scale farming when his socialist political persuasion would have been shaping his political decision and his boasting about Ethiopians eating three meals a day is a rallying slogan might have been perceived a winner tactic. But now Ethiopians are not eating three meals a day. The farmers life becomes more miserable than ever. Preaching about the economic advantage small-scale farming has and peasants having a permanent job to do might not do the trick of convincing the populace leave alone the skeptics. Now, using both methods became the new slogan. But one could still compell to ask this new conversion Meles's doing or the Saudis and other countries that engaged in the rationing of Ethiopian land make the call? I bet on the latter. Why the Prime minister chooses to surrender? It is a tough time, and he needs any diversion that he could get.
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msg Comment from: Merabete [Visitor]
BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS!

UDJ meeting ended in a fist fight. Old guards mock the opportunists who joined the party for convenience. Hahahahaha! Viva AEUP!
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msg Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
Continue from my prrvious post...

Meles does not believe wealth creation through hard work, Meles believes the foreign rich countries have the duty and responsibility of feeding Ethiopians and his security apparatus, Meles is the most dishonest politician Ethiopia ever had in its history. The previous leaders have their own weakness and short comings but they never did things to harm the country intentionally. Meles Does not know who he is, he never identify himself and show indeed. So far we have not seen anything Meles is strong Tigrayan nor Ethiopia. He is hurting both people by making the wrong decisions to fit his agenda for the day like QUMARTEGNA.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 19:16

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msg Comment from: Ethiopiawi [Visitor]
Lasta, (visitor)

the person you asked (with you said a farmer) is problabley your grndpa or one of your ancient ppl, he is greedy and doesnt want to pay for his shoes or trousers

TPLF got nothing to do with it:>>
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 19:32

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msg Comment from: Extraterrestrial [Visitor]
Deme [Visitor]

"I have to watch NFL."

I never know what was NFL then I googled it and found out it stands for National Football League for American Football but it is too foreign for me, i don't understand the game and the rules.

Have you heard this information that comes out yesterday, I jsut want you to see the Great achivmetns of PM Meles:

"The resilient Ethiopians I have met tell of two types of change over the last 25 years,"

"They tell of famines avoided, diseases fought, roads, dams and mobile phone networks built, children in school and immense economic growth. But then there is the negative, unwelcome change -- that of the climate,"

Irish singer and activist Sir Bob Geldof.

What do you think of this man's comment on Ethiopia today?

PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 20:03

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msg Comment from: Sami1 [Visitor]
If only elected government is in the office and all oppositions could bring their concern from the people directly affected then and then I agree to what ever the decision of the govenment since it is for better life of the citizens at large.
The way it is he telles Oromo it is your land your region and go ahead and sale it. Amhara that is your region and do the same, but when it comes to Tigray he will never sale any land and instead he will take the money that was made in the area of other region to build or hide for future.
This is what erkes me, and the reason given looks reasonable in the outside but looking deep it is a game of WOYANE!
I am so ashamed of my own Ethnic people who feel they have to protect thier language and allow Meles sale thier land in other word sale them!

Stand up and be counted for such things than crying how you were treated in the past and be foolled by another in a sense of freedom of language!
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 20:39

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msg Comment from: Deme [Visitor]
Extraterrestrial,

You will love NFL when you believe in true democracy and freedom. Not the fake one we have in Addis. Just like any thing else in life if you take your time to learn it, you may like it. If your friends they do not like NFL, then you may not be interested in to watch it. I'm a sport guy and very active. I follow most sports.

Let me tell you the great achievement of dictator melese:
Why would you proud your leader begging is part of his gov't policy? Be honest!!
You claimed highly educated individual (thanks for USAids), how come Ethiopia unable to feed its own people? What exactly the gov't teach you? You do not even have enough food?

Mr. Geldof may did the right thing. But it is nothing to be proud receiving a hand out. Why can't we support ourselves? Do you only care about yourself? If there is an immence economic growth, how come over 9 millions people starved as we speak?

One more last thing, where did the dictator got food to feed the fake oppositon few days ago in Addis? Was it USAids supposed to go for hungary people. Please be honest.

Your dictator also tried to dismantle MEDREK earlier today. It is a matter of time before they go to kaliti with some excuse. Fair and free election will kill dictator melese.

Dictator melese, betrayal hailu and his evil supporters are the worest person in this planet.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 21:45

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msg Comment from: Bravo [Visitor]
The criminals are the law makers. Sad to say.
PermalinkPermalink 11/29/09 @ 23:24

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msg Comment from: Lasta [Visitor]
Ethiopiawi [Visitor] Wrote:

Lasta,

“the person you asked (with you said a farmer) is problabley your grndpa or one of your ancient ppl, he is greedy and doesnt want to pay for his shoes or trousers”

Ethiopiawi,

If you’re an Ethiopiawi as you declared to be, the first thing you should do is to respect this farmer and his ancestors. You know it, it is not the tax money collected in Tigrai that financed your education, but from the fertile land of Gojam, Arusi etc. So, if I were you, I will be a little bit humble and restrain my self to say something stupid.

What is wrong having a grandpa from Gojam? He has been living as a free man in his beautiful country farming his fertile land for centuries until some primitive filthy TPLF “Shiftas “came to complicate his life.
PermalinkPermalink 11/30/09 @ 05:32

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msg Comment from: EthioMan [Visitor]
Meles Zenawi: Because the alternative is patently stupid.

The only patented stupidity is coming from this narrow minded self elected PM.

But in all fairness, I say...
It all depends on how it is negotiated, the terms and conditions of the lease. So long as the government enforces use policy/law, labor law and so long as there is a clear provision on production to meet internal needs, I see no problem with foreign investment. But the report states that the Meles regime is practically giving land away and with little regulation and these investors seem less inclined to pay proper wages.

It is hard to predict how this will affect future farming in Ethiopia but I am inclined to say that these firms if given a free hand will maximize their profit at any cost. As far as the economy growing based on these investors, it is very highly unlikely because there only concern is growing their business and not the local economy. Therefore I, EthioMAN, am against lease.

When it comes to privatization, Ethiopians owning land, I am 100% in support because of the many benefits, internal economic benefit, give the chance for citizens to achieve economic growth through modernized farming. It has been tried before and it did show a possibility of growth. Owning as opposed to lease gives one the desire to preserve soil grade, locals care more than foreign investors. Also, it is common for business to expand, if given incentives thereby creating better employment opportunities which increases, income, demand for goods, expand the banking business through loans to Ethiopian businesses etc... we will benefit overall.

What we can do is allow privatized big scale farming, by Ethiopians, which does not require government investing as meles suggested but private investment/ financing. For Ethiopia to be self sustaining and feed itself, the Meles govt must abandon its hold/monopoly on land and on big business. All in all, the government must stay out of this rationing of land and owning big businesses and go back to its primary purpose. Governing.
PermalinkPermalink 11/30/09 @ 15:59

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msg Comment from: D. Geta [Visitor]
The PM seams to distinguish the pros & cons of large mechanized farming as opposed to a small scale one while the implementation we see is the rivers. As a poor farmer grows grows Gommen & Dubaa at his back-yard & head-off looming starvation in his family, the government should have known better to alleviate this reoccurring famine if a genuine desire is there to feed the starved population. Even Djibouti is harvesting Wheat in Arsie and is feeding its population theses days.

Simply, it is not in their objective to feed the starving population instead without any public participation and an expert advice, making sure they control more resources of the country by any means necessary. Otherwise, our forefathers would have allowed the Italians and other who were vying for such African resources.
PermalinkPermalink 11/30/09 @ 21:02

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msg Comment from: Lij [Visitor]
Sam,

Thanks for the comical statement there. I had to laugh out loud. I hope you are not intending to compare a Harvard graduate us President with African heads of states in general.
PermalinkPermalink 12/01/09 @ 01:48

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msg Comment from: Jegna [Visitor]
Meles said "The first factor is the availability of capital and savings in this economy. There are very, very low savings and very limited capital availability. If we were to invest in large-scale, commercial, mechanised farming, then we would have to deplete whatever savings we have in establishing these large-scale farms, and what do we get in return?"

Capital? From my limited access to data I can confirm that the US and EU has given Ethiopia in the tenth of billions of dollars since you took over. Also the World Bank - IMF have loaned you billions and have cut our previous debts by billions. You have already sold/leased billions of dollars worth of land and have told us the economy has gown double digits for over 5 years. Also EFFORT and other government run endeavours such as mining, drilling, etc. generate billions of dollars. All of this should result in capital enough to at least have one experimental industrialized farm.

Labour: Who hires more people yeh sefer souk or Wal-Mart? Industrialized farms encompass millions of hectares of land and needs large amount of labourers to work them.

What this will get us in return is high level of employment for rural farmers but more importantly FOOD to feed the people. He has to know that the availability of food (supply) is directly linked to the price. Also the crazy inflation that has hit the country under his control doesn't help.

The current system of leasing out land to foreigner nation controlled companies is only going to generate initial capital for the government. These countries are going to hire our people for very cheap labour, completely control agriculture in region (so small farmers don’t’ have land or water access), and the food is going to be shipped back to these foreign countries. If Ethiopians can’t afford to feed themselves on local market based prices for food, then how the hell will they afford it when it is imported from other countries? The sad irony is when India and Saudi Arabia are feeding their people on food grown on our land by our people; but our people will still have nothing to show for it.
PermalinkPermalink 12/01/09 @ 13:18

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msg Comment from: EthioMAN [Visitor]
Two very important points.

Comment from: Jegna [Visitor]

Capital? From my limited access to data I can confirm that the US and EU has given Ethiopia in the tenth of billions of dollars since you took over. Also the World Bank - IMF have loaned you billions and have cut our previous debts by billions....

The sad irony is when India and Saudi Arabia are feeding their people on food grown on our land by our people; but our people will still have nothing to show for it.
PermalinkPermalink 12/02/09 @ 00:00

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msg Comment from: Almaz [Visitor]
Why not give an opportunity to the Ethiopian investors first. There are a lot of millionare in Ethiopia who would like to invest in agriculture. The best thing I think will be to organize farmers with Ethiopians to create modern method of farming. The investors have the money and the farmer have the land. They should be able to work togethers. We should look at this alternative instead of jumping to attract Arabs. Meles you are being stupid your self selling Ethiopia Land that our forefathers have kept it for so long. This food shortage are created because of you. Even you have mentioned that the land that you are trying to lease had never been utelized. So what were you doing all this years. Why did you not make a use of it. "GOOD PLEASE PORTECT ETHIOPIA AND ITS CHILDERN'
PermalinkPermalink 12/04/09 @ 17:02

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