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Iam wondering if Ethiopia get some money the income obtained from tourist while they visiting Lucy?

Yeha,

As usual, that he has his hands on any thing that is Ethiopia; your BANDA master may have sold Lucy!! You are so worried about your money I don’t think this time around you might not get your share.

Hey Thunder, or what ever your name is
, please go to school and learn some rules in English. And may be then I would understand what ever you may have to
say.And remember! The government of Ethiopia has chosen to exhibit Lucy to the world.So be it! What the big deal?

Tunder

I think you are one of the enemies of Ethiopia always Ethiopia gets progress you oppose
For example Ethiopian air lines one of the biggest in Africa... you said you said that not true
Ethiopia electric city now exporting to the Kenya you oppose and so on and on and on
Now Ethiopia get some income from Lucy you oppose not only you there is a group people thinking the same living the same area in {dc}

Woyane is shouting about millinium, but it sends the one who lived for millinium out.Why it cry about tourism while it sale the source of tourism? Nothing is more important than money for Woyane!

Hey guys you are told that " It is the national interest of America" So what you talking about? Just keep quite. Not lucy if needed you can be packed and exported to the United States if it is in the American national interest. There is others national interest respected when America's agents (puppet government)like Meles the tyrant. Meles is needed just for one purpose and time until america fullfil its current national interest then will be thrown away like a used condom period. Even no body else use .It is more than clear the danger of exporting Lucy the nation's valued skeletonto get out of the country. But what makes busy the tyrant Meles is to kill ethiopia and ethiopians morally and their history. If you wait you will see more humiliation on the citizen.

Meles is and will be doing anything to get permission to kill and reign. He brought the Obelisk of Axum from Italy because that is more important for his tribal politicas but Afar is nothing for him.

Is there any way Lucy can be brought back
Now? Is there anything Ethiopians can
do about it?
I am sure, the soon goes back home, the
less damage to the sekeleton. 6 years
is LONG LONG time, to me.
What do you think fellow Ethiopians?

Ladies & Gentlemen,

If the current gov't of Ethiopia gave an iota of thought behind the RISK that DINKENESH will be taking, it wouldn't have allowed this type of atrocity against the peoples of Ethiopia, their rich culture and heritage. but alas, this is a direct exhibition of the gov't's nonchalant view of ETHIOPIAN HISTORY - as well all remember the flag being labeled as
"TCHeK" - yeah, aka 'piece of cloth'. And what is LUCY to them??? Just another bone to the be thrown to the dogs perhaps.

Fact of the matter is - this is a NATIONAL HERITAGE - not WOYANE's. It's not some personal art/drawing leaving for a tour. It's DINKENSH - 3.2 MILLION YEARS OLD!!!!!! IRREPLACEABLE!!!! And, most of all, she's ETHIOPIAN - belonging to the people of ETHIOPIA.

Just how wreckless and nearsighted can these people be??/? Don't they realize that NO AMOUNT OF MONEY can replace her??? So, Dr Leaky's labeling of PROSTITUTION is quite correct. Woyane is selling our 'being' to the West for $$$ - $$$ that we probably not going to see anyway.

WOYANE - thanks for nothing!!!!!

I think its a shame period.

Next we will hear the ARK OF CONVENANT will fly to America,if not yet.
Melese will sell anything that has aprice tag.

This is only one of the few greedy behaviors of Woyanes that got exposed .

For Meles, Woyanes and EPRDF greedy thugs anything and everything that has a dollar sign is for sale whether it is a national heritage or property. This is one of the few heritage and national property of Ethiopia we see Woyanes put up for sale that our fore fathers preserved. The many thousands and thousands of national heritage and property of Ethiopia that has been lost in the hands of Meles and his greedy men, only history will tell.

The six-year-tour of "Lucy" skeleton in the United States will turn in to forever. Ethiopia will never see "Lucy"'s skeleton.

That is way Ethiopians have to keep the pressure on the removal of Woyanes and replace them with KINIJIT elected leaders asap.

Down with Meles and Woyanes.

Why don't the american take a trip to ethiopian and see her,instead of moving the here around. with all hte news of historic article being stolen systemic why , I really have a a consider the real lucy wiil come back after 6yrs. very few people know swhui
the real have handes, this may God give them courage and honsety and intergerity so they will stand for Ethiopian values.
My opinion is don't take out lucy who ever is interested should vist her in Ethiopia.

I oppose the move to take Lucy to the US for a tour just because it will pose a dangerous risk to her wellbeing. I do not believe it is "prostitution" or "Woyane's means to get more money" -- this is elementary thinking.

The Government of Ethiopia is in the view that the Lucy tour will promote Ethiopian history, tourism and culture. However, the scientific community is on odds with the idea and I agree with them. Furthermore it is best if the Government kept Lucy at the Ethiopian Natural History Museum in Addis Ababa and promoted tourism to Ethiopia instead of promoting Lucy's tourism in the USA.

It is an illogical move to promote tourism and cultural awareness in Ethiopia.

-Samuel

I have never been a big fun of Leakey or any of the family members that have been in kenya since or before colonialism. He may have a point but I suppose it is too late now, we will only find out after the fact!

Under Ato Meles’s watch and deliberate verdict Ethiopia has been made a landlocked nation, making Ethiopia highly populated country in the world without access to port , to that end, President Carter said that he will never quite understand why Meles did not negotiate on Ethiopia’s behalf with Eritrea. (2) Our national treasure and gold mine is sold to an individual, (3) our land has been carved as dowry to buy support from Sudan. to name a few…and now Lucy? If this is not prostitution, tell me what is? I am a proud Ethiopian from Tigray, and fyi- all Tigrayans do not blindly support Meles.
For some of us, Ethiopia’s sovereignty, culture, land and heritage outweighs any other consideration.
Meheret!

Dinknsh, I heard you arrived in peace & in a saved manner.
It is nice.
Enjoy with American live!
Becare full!

Sorry Admin for the kilo txt. Leakey made me furious and also Yagere Sew! This is not only a talk for talk sense, not DiasporaFerenji v/s Eth. politics. It is a complex thing of the (human) inside and other things around that we can't hold of for now. thx.

Dink in a display case ?

This type of thing normally needs a parliament involvement and debate. They should have fought about it like this: “Dink for the US touring” v/s “Dink as an immobile item” This is just a remain of one of our ancestors excavated from the Awash prehistoric delta turned into dry volcanic land. There is also the not an ambiguous position of that human/ape skeleton which is revered – metamorphosed to stone with a privileged status in history books. But before everything it is the specialists, local and global paeleologists and archaeologists and anthropologists who must be listened to. This is just a national asset – that should have been protected by tooth and clench.

Many years ago I remember a seminar that has taken place in a compound at the 5 kilo area. A certain keeper of the famed relic artefact, our point of discussion here, this employee of the Historical and Ethnographical Museum in Addis brought the relic Lucy to a meeting hall in the adjacent building from his workplace of the Museum. The Next door aula was the conference hall of German School, presently part of AAU where the conference took place. Ato Seyoum, a famed historian was very furious “saying how come you bring Lucy with hands just on this reduced container”. The puzzled man simply didn’t know what to answer as he said he was very careful bringing Lucy from the museum safely like an egg – indicating the container that was filled with a styrofoam scraps. Ato Seyoum unavoidably reacted negatively: Asking the public and the custodian of the relic, “Do you know there are many unseen and unfelt shivers you might have sent to the skeleton?”. And Seyoum to the public emphasized: “Yetadelutu yeregetubet bota hulu bebiret atir yitaterilachewal! Egna gin we can’t keep our most precious possessions in modest condition. It is true, as he has visited around the globe such places and remembers their spaces well, he was upset; but although as a secondary school student at the moment interested in history, I have learned how should we keep our past heritages and present-day testimonies to survive as a nation.

If we don’t curate, conserve and restore our historical grandeurs; relics (Lucy is one) monuments, arts and artifacts who will then honor and protect them? Or we are just only focused to the Ethiopian mediaeval period?

Back to Dinknesh, with closer attachment to our human and cultural relics to which we confer, with our most treasured human remains now this tour has started. The Dinknesh keeper, could have felt in his way “very careful” for the relic but he didn’t know there are “degrees of cares” and the one that he brought Lucy packed with his hand was dangerous. Now they are moving her on plane to a very far spot, Texas. I have never heard of precious items of national importance, like Lucy to make such risky tours on plane with different air pressure than of the land – the Awash Valley’s and Amist Kilo’s air pressure for that matter are indeed also different.

I could have said OK let Dinknesh make her tour, the question here is, are we in equal footing when we determine this to happen? Do you think an exchange for this act either from the west Europe or the US is possible? If it is OK then we have made atleast a fair deal. I don’t know what kind of human remains we can exchange with Americans for Dinknesh, as afar as I know, in the Nature Museum of US, there are only giant fossils of dinosaurs. They can bring them – which are not rare in the world – and we can teach our students about the dinosaur age. But I will be most interested with the MET collection’s particular pieces. I have never heard Matisses, Picassos Duchamps, leaving their museum premises to tour on African locales! Exchanging cultural artifacts or hiring cultural assets are all the same to me! It is even unthinkable to transport these chef-de-oeuvres to Europe and Japan, leave alone bring them to Africa. Can we show Graham Bell’s original telephone or Thomas Edison’s first electric bulb? Can we show some of the masterpieces that the Met and other museums keep? Will they bequeath them to aspire our young with American art, design and others achievements? I am afraid we can’t. So why do we sprint to give our best? If we can borrow say, Jackson Pollock’s pieces, or other precious cultural and anthropological items and/or original masterpieces, so then be it. I would partially pull out from “Dink is immobile an item” campaign! No, But I think we can only dream about that. Original exhibits of any kind from West would not budge to Africa. That is the picture for now till we transform ourselves to be Mr. and Mrs Somebody!

MEHRET well said but Leakey went rude now!

To move Dinknesh from her vaults - and her home for 5-6 years is absolutely erroneous a matter and unforgivable ignorance. I am not also mindless to the financial benefits that Lucy would bring back home to destitute peoples and areas such as ours. However, I ignore this little currency that would help the frail class of Ethiopia, just to concentrate on the oldest homo-sapiens or 1st Eve’s travel risk. Dr. Leakey’s critic being straightforward, it is also too harsh and unnecessary offence at times. Because there is constantly the “brutal backdrop” narratives of those anthropologists from the previous centuries make me uncomfortable to hear their views anymore, even when they speak the truth! It is just only last year in South Africa they have re-buried in a state funeral the skeleton and bottled parts of Saarti Baartman also known as Sara, the Hotentot Venus. Many recognize, as you know this African lady was born in 1789 to Khoisan people. She was trapped by Colonialism’s ugly supremacies and brought to London and Paris to be displayed: Alive as paraded around Europe as a freak and scientific curiosity. She died in 1816 in Paris in destitution, crashed into low life and pushed into alcoholism and prostitution. Tabo Mbeki arranged a state funeral after Mitterand Mandela deal went ahead. The assurance of Mitterand took time in the Parliament, but at the end went ahead after the French Parliament released the Hotenkot Venus from the Musee del’Homme to retrace her ancestral home, and rest in Africa. Mr. Mbeki words remind us,that “this lady was not the lonely African woman in Europe, alienated from her identity…”

I can’t say ignore the uncontrolled rhetoric of Leakey, It is none of his business, because as an archaeologist dipped into this profession he has got some words to say; but I am furious too for his bizarre wording taken from xenophobic exotica “explorers”’, trophy hunters’, and anthropologists’ digests from the last century. But ignore the world media bombarding all Ethiopian matters, bad and good, but pray for Dinknesh to come back safe and sound. You can also think why are we coming lately, Why is at the present Ethiopia being frequently spotted to the limelight? Why is my land making the most news in otherwise Eurocentric “celebrated” newscasts? Is it the globalization syndrome? Of course also I accuse the officials. They must gulp down their mistakes and learn more from the pits of knowledge, which is endless. We are humans and make mistake every second but we must recognize that and not entertain it but expose the qualms every time, say “Sorry!” and go forward to enhance the culture of logical debate to bear shape and Science and Art with capital “S” and “A” to widen and develop.

And Wish for Dinkinesh as “pre-human creature” (as our ancestor) to rest in her Crypt but not in her display case in world museums, including in the Addis museum! Because she is not a toy, or a work of art to be displayed for the pleasure of the public eye !

Safe return Dink.
Selam.

You guys in diaspora, instead of crying about Lucy move to State, why you do not take initative to return to Ethiopia and settle?

Where is the "VIS SQUAD"?

LAST TIME I CHECKED 'prostitution' still a NO-NO.

I say prosecute the pimps and johns that are pimping our Grammy and send them to there manifested destiny

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Lucy belongs to humanity as she is the mother of all (at least according to current theory). Its damage is a loss to the human race, specially to the scientific community. From that perspective it should not be moved if there is any risk to it. In that regard, not only should be the Ethiopian officials but the Americans should also be blamed in this "prostitution".

Speaking of money, I think Ethiopia looses the biggest in the long run. Just think of the loss in tourism and royalty. The biggest advertisement for Toronto zoo is African Lion Safary ... a replacement for Safari in Kenya which generate millions of dollar every year.

It would have been fair if Ethiopia was to get a % of the income from the museums, actually all museums that display the replica of the bones every years as royalty. More over, this royalty has to include all museums which display the replica of the bones. The same arrangement should have been made for animals that are displayed out of their indigenous land (like the African Lion, etc). Well, more so for Lucy (because there is only one), but I don't think the Ethiopian official will think to negotiate that. I bet, Eritreans would have!

Finally, I wonder if Ethiopian have seen the real skeleton. I know the one at the national museum in Addis Ababa was a replica when I visited the museum in 1990. The reason given was that the skeleton is to precious to display on the public. How come that it is on tour to US public? Is it that the skeleton is no more precious or is it too precious to show it in Ethiopia and not so precious to show it in the US?

May be Ethiopians can come to the US to visit Lucy and the American have to issue them visa for the next 6 years as a moral obligation. What about that?

Finally, I hope the original Lucy (and not a replica) will find its way back to Ethiopia, where it belongs. And hope the six years will not extend to 60 years (as the Axum's stela did)