Ethiopia - Meles Zenawi Admits Errors on Somalia

06/29/07

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Ethiopia - Meles Zenawi Admits Errors on Somalia

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Ethiopia - Ethiopian Premier Admits Errors on Somalia

By Stephanie McCrummen

Washington Post Foreign Service

Friday, June 29, 2007; A16

NAIROBI, June 28 -- Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi said Thursday that his government "made a wrong political calculation" when it intervened in Somalia, where Ethiopian troops are bogged down in a fight against a growing insurgency.

Addressing Ethiopia's Parliament, Meles said his government incorrectly assumed that breaking up the Islamic movement that took control of most of Somalia in June 2006 would subdue the country. He also said he wrongly believed that Somali clan leaders would live up to unspecified "promises."

"We made these wrong assumptions," Meles said on a day when a roadside bomb killed two Ethiopian soldiers in Mogadishu, the Somali capital, and two aid workers were shot dead in northern Somalia.

Opposition members of Parliament have accused Meles of making the same mistake in Somalia that critics say the United States made in Iraq: launching a military intervention without having a political plan.

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Many Ethiopian intellectuals and political leaders opposed the intervention because they said it would inevitably create the conditions for the sort of Somalia-based terrorist attacks that Meles intended to contain by invading the country.

In December, Ethiopian forces backing Somalia's transitional government dislodged the Islamic movement, which was popular for the relative security it had brought after years of brutal warlord rule.

Ethiopia and the United States said the Islamic movement had been hijacked by extremists and accused it of harboring terrorists, including three suspects in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, a charge the Islamic leaders denied.

Since January, fighting between insurgents and Ethiopian and Somali government troops has displaced more than half of Mogadishu's population while the humanitarian situation has deteriorated. On Thursday, Amnesty International accused Kenya of blocking 141 trucks of food and other aid headed for more than 200,000 displaced Somalis suffering from "alarming levels" of malnutrition.

Many businessmen and civil society leaders in Mogadishu say that over the past two weeks, they have been unjustly labeled "al-Qaeda" and their homes and offices have been ransacked by Ethiopian and Somali troops.

One internationally known civil society leader, Abdulkadir Nur, said that troops plundered equipment in his offices and that his colleagues and relatives had been arrested without charge.

Nur said he is simply against what he considers an Ethiopian occupation.

"I do have the right to express my personal views," he said in a statement. "And the transitional government has no right to abuse its power to destroy my livelihood, my personal property and abuse my colleagues and co-workers."

Special correspondent Kassahun Addis in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, contributed to this report.

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Making mistake is one way and given correction is the other appropriate way. That is where the prime minister Melese referring to.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 09:46

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Comment from: Hassan [Visitor]

There you go Melez. You are definitely feeling in Somalia and also in Ogadenia. You are also threatening Eritrea. This is the typical mistakes African leaders make when they send their armies into the other fellow African nations to make sure their military is preoccupied with conflicts and they, the leaders, can avoid coup d'etats and remain in power.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 09:46

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Comment from: hemmm. [Visitor]

Tere are no existing human beings on earh that made mistakes after mistaks and never bother at all. what a shame. Who is wright now Meles or Isayas?

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 09:51

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Comment from: madaale [Visitor]

Meles always makes wrong decisions. It's time to step down and make way for those well educated Ethiopians

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 09:57

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Comment from: Kassa [Visitor]

I don't believe it is a mistake to go to war against committed enemy the fundamentalist radical Islams in Somalia or anywhere in the world. Ethiopia has done the right thing and the dividends will come later. But first the human sacrifice before victory and complete incapacitation of the enemy that will never be a threat to its neighbors any more!!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:03

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Comment from: korefe [Visitor]

Well Well Mr. Crime minister. Did you or did you not take your prozak before you gave the speech. In any case, it is not still late to take all the poor soldiers out of Somalia. Let Somalians deal with their problem. By the way, you can still have your mission accomplished party. :no:

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:07

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Well, he knew it clearly that he was making a big mistake by invading Somalia but I am sure he ignored the danger and accepted the cash offered to him by US Government. He miscalculated, thanks to his stupidity, that this invasion will benefit Somalia more than it benefits TPLF because it unites the country and isolates the traitors.

What ever Meles’s case might be, we Somalis do not care whether he made mistake or not. He invaded our country and until we defeat the TPLF thugs, the war shall continue.

He is admitting his mistakes because he is in a big trouble. UN Security Council refused to help his puppet government until they bring stability to the country which they cannot do at all. The TPLF troops are targeted daily and they begun to pull out of Mogadishu to find saver places until they leave. Almost 30 TPLF soldiers die daily, according the news in Mogadishu. OLF, ONLF are increasing their offences against TPLF soldiers. The non armed oppositions in Ethiopia are fighting back. The western countries begin to distance themselves from his regime. The only international support he has is the support of the US funded mercenary CIA officers that operate in Horn of Africa and based in Djibouti.

After all of this, this thug, midget and monkey faced liar shows the audacity to contemplate to invade Eritrea! Is he crazy or what!

TPLF will be finished soon and, because they mess with Somalia, their chance of coming back in the future is impossible.

Peace to Horn

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:25

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Comment from: gta sanandreas [Visitor]

hahaha. i cant believe this fool, know he tells the people somalia is a no win situation. leave somalia now!!!!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:29

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Comment from: lena [Visitor]

OHHHHHH!!! what a shame crime Meles
we are very sorry

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:30

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Comment from: anbesa [Visitor]

I normally ignore white twisted lies such as this, but since I've heard what the PM said i couldn't help to see truth hidden.

What the PM said was that when Ethiopia made a decision to fully withdraw from Somalia after the 2/3 forces already out at that time both Ethiopia and the remanants of UIC made a mistake.

Ethiopia's mistake was political, he said. He further said, " Ethiopia shouldn't have trusted the clan leaders who are affiliated to the UIC".

He also said that the UIC remnants made a military mistake or miscalculation i.e. they thought that after 2/3 of Ethiopian forces left and the few Ugandans replaced them that they(UIC) can defeat Ethiopians , The Au forces and the TFG forces.

In general, what meles said is this. please go to www.aigaforum.com and listen to the audio and check the realities.

Then, what are this Washington post "journalists" talking about? I don't think it was mistranslated from Amharic to English i the parliament. I think they are writing what the wanted to hear.

or Stephanie McCrummen was not attending the Ethics class when she was in college if she really went to one in the first place!!!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:33

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Comment from: anticipated [Visitor]

I assume the man is in total trouble. Eritrea, ONLF, OLF, Jailed leaders, have become his daily nightmare. In Somalia, he made for us the worst enemy neighbours after Eritrea. The coming generations will fight for many years to come. He has created enemity and hatred.
Worst of all he is preparing for war with Eritrea again over Badme desert. We don't want it. We want our ports you retard!!. Get our ports back and get the hell out of Ethiopia.
May God punish you for your cold blood killings of innocent civilians.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:36

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Comment from: wesi [Visitor]

Amazing !
If we see what this guy is doing from time to time, it is really full of "mistake". The amazing thing is those mistakes are not accidental. He did consciously and deliberately to put the Ethiopian people( which he dislike to death) in trouble. As to me, Meles is considering Ethiopians as his lab animals and that's why he is experimenting. Unfortunately, Ethiopians became so dossile to him to the extent that no other lab animals. I think the time to say no for Meles is elapsed years ago. True Ethiopians need to stop this killer guy before he start more experiments. Thanks to Tony Blair, the entire world missunderstood the behaviour of Meles due to unnecessary appreciations given to him by former British PM. Why Ethiopians has suffer because of Melese's ignorant but scholarly looking deceptive decisions ? NO NO NO. Ethiopians need to stop him. It is already late.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:38

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Comment from: daniel.j [Visitor]

mister melles i have been thinking to much about unity of ethiopia i hope u think the same think as u are an ethiopian p.m ...
deal with the oposition party for ever lasting peace....thank u for u listening me....god bless ethiopia and ethiopians.Melles please take care of my Ethiopia.peace......

dan,j
from belgium

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:41

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Kassa

You and I are at the two opposite extremes; however, I want to ask you this. How you think your regime is saver today than it was during the Islamic Courts’s rule? You have a suicide bombers that are willing to search and find Melez even if he hides on a PLATE OF INJERA, and ready blow themselves up to get even with him. You have angry people that your leader killed their families and relatives, and destroyed their properties. You have a regime that invaded a country and harmed the pride of the Somali people. You created a bookmarked date Dec. 24 and 28, 2006, the former being the date TPLF troops invaded Somalia and the latter being the date TPLF Tanks reached Mogadishu, the pride and symbol of Somali nationhood. Do you think he created peace or war?

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:49

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Comment from: Yesew Zer [Visitor]

Really Mr. Crime Minister? U made a fool out of yourself. The installed prime minister Ali M. Gedi is disappointed that the UN refused to replace weyane soldiers who are in a constant fire in Somalia. Good Job UN. Who wants to get in to fire? The US is pressuring the reconcilation commitee to go to Eritrea to meet Shiek Sharif. What a huge blow to weyane? If the ICU is finnally considered the legitimate Somali rep., then why did weyane intervene? Big lose.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:54

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Comment from: Abdi [Visitor]

Meles has not made a mistake regarding Somalia in fact he made a great fevour to a naigboring country. Getting rid of the brutal and barbaric UIC has made the entire region a more stable place. Meles is a great leader for sure.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 10:54

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Comment from: Taye [Visitor]

Meles never said Ethiopia made a mistake in removing the terrorist UIC from power. These so called journalists are shameless!! Any body who cares to learn the truth can listen to the entire speech on many credible Ethiopian websites. For the hate mongers, a transcript of the speech is available at ethiomedia.com (3rd paragraph), a website known for its blind hate against the PM.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:03

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Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]

Man, lately this man is making his cheerleaders life very miserable! I love it! What would the woyane Pensioners and Clowns have to say about it? What about the trumpet of woyanes, Aiga?

I agree with wesi which is everything he did was buying sworn enemy for the country he hate! Every Ethiopian except the few retarded cadres have said NO for Somalia war, unfortunately since the man in charge of the country is against the people and the nation, he knowingly, dragged us into this trouble.

It is also amazing how hard he is trying lately to make his government look like democratic, admitting mistakes and respecting the judicial system(which doesn't exist), which is an indication that he is losing it! See Meles, your little and arrogant heart can not take you anywhere but to your own demise! Admit that you have committed a serious mistake first for ordering the mass killing and arrest of Ethiopians after the May election, and second for unjustly imprisoning the opposition leaders then tarnishing their names, and endangering the countries integrity thinking that might buy you a little more time in Arat kilo, only then you will be forgiven.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:07

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Abdi

I am sure you are Ali Mohamed Gedi's caussin or a Majeerteen thug who is willing to sell Somalia as long as INA YEY is becoming a president or you are seperatist thug who likes to see Somalia in a perpetual chaotic state.

UIC is a Somali entity and if you do not like it, you challenge them. It is not Ethiopia's business to deal with UIC but it is your responsibility to have the guts to fight them and form the government you like.

Unfortunately, you are a thug who is looking for a free ride. It doesn't work that way my friend.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:13

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Comment from: MEAZA g [Visitor]

Really,his life is full of mistake but he could not learn from his experience.
Still again & again, he has made mistake.
I think he has spiritual metal illness.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:19

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Comment from: Selem [Visitor]

Oh really? I thought Meles (like all the dictators this world has produced so far) thinks he is always right. Wait until he changes his mind again and again and again, often contradicting himself so many times. As usual.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:30

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Comment from: KOKEB [Visitor]

CRIME MINISTER

Can you do us one more mistake? JUST shoot yourself to close the mistake chapters.

long live ethiopia

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:31

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Comment from: Theking [Visitor]

" Alarf yalech tat AR tenkula tiwetalech.
"

You have not seen the worst yet. Bluder
after blunder, mistake after mistake,

When will you learn Prime MONSTER MELES?

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:51

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Comment from: Pasti Bet [Visitor]

Ayyy mogno .. sarun ayteh gedelun satay ... balnegerkuh balKoCHegn.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 11:51

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Comment from: Sami [Visitor]

WELL WELL WELL WELL>>>>
Yeha, what do you say?
Your God made mestake!
Listen... He did not mean what he is saying all he wants is to show he is not supporting USA because he was being repremended by US Govenment not BUSH... All confused and lost PM now playing with fire!

Can't you see that Mr YEHA and likes...
What proof do you want that he is not a leader, but BULLY, POWER HUNGRY WHO HAS NOT NATIONAL INTEREST.
Shame for those who support him!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:02

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Comment from: peace lover [Visitor]

meles is our time, you will lose the pm and will be your live in jail, ethiopia somalia and eritaria will be live peace together no more blood,

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:25

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Comment from: newguy [Visitor]

who is the lawyer? what should be the charge for this mistake?
hmmmmmmmmm silly mistake from prime minister?
i know meles you are great, before months you know what to talk and you know what to do? so what mistake you plan for the millinium?????

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:34

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Comment from: DC [Visitor]

Mistake-----The entire political experiance of TPLF thugs has been nothing but intentional mistake to destroy the unity of Ethiopia. The time has come for Woyane thugs to test the result of so called mistake Long Live Ethiopia !

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:38

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Comment from: kaleb [Visitor]

Apologize for many Ethiopian intellectuals who warned of this danger. Read Fekade's article "Meles Zenawi's invasion of Somalia: A serious Foreign policy blunder" we told you so mr crime minister

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:38

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Comment from: Tezebet [Visitor]

Yeha [Visitor]
Your comment, "Making mistake is one way and given correction is the other appropriate way. That is where the prime minister Melese referring to"

I could not stop laughing when I see your comment right before any one… are you some kind of moron or you just like to repeat what this PM said. I feel like I am responding to a parrot. Please use your mind some time try to criticize your own body… there is nothing wrong about it. at the matter of fact it helps your body to grow up. I can't agree with my own brothers and sisters all the time let alone a political leaders… the PM recognized his mistake… you jump and try to tell us what he is trying to saying. Who the hell you are? Are you his speech writer or personal advice you know what it means when he said the above statement? Please God give you a mind for reason… USE IT…don't be echo like a dead mountain stone…

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 12:46

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Comment from: kottuu [Visitor]

YEHA said
"Making mistake is one way and given correction is the other appropriate way. That is where the prime minister Melese referring to"
I didn't know that Yeha was Mr. Meles's brain!!!!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 13:09

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Comment from: termoose [Visitor]

here we go I have siad it from the begining it is not right and i had a feeling one day pm would say this and it hapend befor i die it is big test for ethiopia never interfere again

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 13:11

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Comment from: Kera [Visitor]

Mistake cause some one to resign from his/her post.Primate Legesse,please do us a very go to hell.killing 193 people also a mistake I suppose.How about giving Badem to shabia?I suppose it is wrong but you accept it.What a shame individual.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 13:35

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Comment from: dawtes [Visitor]

I think Meles is :lalala:

he is confused. The fire is starting in every direction on him. Let him go to war against Eritrea. I bet the Generals are planning to turn around and take him to Eritrea.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 14:05

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Comment from: ogaden_boy [Visitor]

I am happy to see this man admitting his fault and mistake .

I hope this experience will help him avoid to do the same mistake in ogaden, oromia and other parts of ethiopia.Remember every ethnic group will be treated the wat they treat others and tigre wil not be in power for ever.

To SOMALI REALIST ii think you are oposing ethiopian present for the sake of somalia but maybe meles likes MAJERTEEN more than your tribe.Remember all majerteen tribe do not welcome ethiopia . Accuse Abdi As abgaal or majeerteen but not as majeerteen and Ghedi because ghedis tribe also are freinds to ethiopia not only majerteens.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 14:09

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Comment from: hagos defew [Visitor]

prime monster MELES what kind of drugs were you smoking when you decided to send your savage Agazi killers to somalia TO KILL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS?? :crazy:

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 14:52

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Comment from: Meles Sucks [Visitor]

Meles is doing american's dirty job and he didn't think about the results he will
face. :))

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:00

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Comment from: danil [Visitor]

meles not think for somalia people he
afraid that oromo and ogaden libration
fronts .

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:03

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Hey termoose,
stop twisting your self man. Get straight either support EPRDF or go Kiliti with you gegnoch. Watch out Yirgacheffee is on his way to take care of you.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:09

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Comment from: Balageru [Visitor]

guys,

don't get carried away, Mr spinner(melASS) SWINGING again. he plays with media, i think he is after something.

someone baptize Somali Realist for me, he does my head in, give him some raw pork with hot MITMITA and AUZO..lol

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:16

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Comment from: Shidde [Visitor]

Meles is blackmailing the Americans to ease their pressure releasing the CDU leaders by pretending that ethiopia made a mistake and he is going to quit his alliance with the US antiterrorist policy. His intention is to keep the CDU leaders indefinately in Kality without being pressured by US.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:18

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Comment from: today [Visitor]

MR. crime minister we know that u are
mistaking all the time.

STUPID MINITER... ZENAWI

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:19

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Comment from: berta [Visitor]

The biggest mistake PM made was in 2005. The mistake after 2005 are another mistakes to get out of crise by diverting issue and looking for favors and attentiions. lies follows lies.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:22

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Comment from: hmmmm [Visitor]

What would be the consequence for meles …any way that time is coming ..Eris are united and have one heart … melese can’t win the war torn Somalia

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:29

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Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]

MY GOODNESS!

Washington Post is a lier----BIG TIME LIER!

That is NOT what Meles said----anybody can listen to the recording of his latest speech to the parliament and see for themselves! The only mistake Meles referred to was Ethiopia's earlier premature withdrewal plan before Somalia was relatively stable!....then he went on to say that Ethiopia has changed that plan and will stay put in Somalia indefinately untill Somalia is Stable enough and the Somali government is strong enough. "This is a change the Ethiopian government made to an earlier plan to withdrew early----which would have resulted in a return to status quo" Meles said.

either Washington Post is quoting meles out of context or the Amharic speech was mistranslated!-----

Yeha and others,....don't believe the hype!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:40

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Comment from: Medfu tessema [Visitor]

This should be recorded as a surprise of Melesses'era. We have never seen him admit mistakes. The moment of truth is knocking at his door. Would this also be considered flexibility in politics? The future is for all of us to see.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:48

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Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]

dear termoose [Visitor],

Remember when I called you plastic termoos and you corrected me by insisting that you're a glass termoos,....well Washington Post needs to make the same correction to their false article about Meles Zenawi.

take care bro

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:48

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Comment from: hagos defew [Visitor]

Yeha

,said that "Hey termoose, stop twisting your self man. Get straight either support EPRDF or go Kiliti with you gegnoch. Watch out Yirgacheffee is on his way to take care of you".people,even tplf paid cadres don't like each other.this comment clearly show that what kind of people they are.this morons trying to eat each other alive for the sake of their own selfish interests.down to tplf cadre bandas.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 15:56

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Comment from: Netsanet [Visitor]

All of you guys who are criticizing Meles are bunch of Morons including this tuttering Fekade shewa kena. In the first place, Meles didn't regret his dicision to go to war in Somalia to avert the treat they were posing to Our country, Ethiopia. Read the brief he gave to the H.O.P.R.. You can find it on Aiga Forum. Don't wait until they tell you on Addis Dimts,KInigt Radio,in Amharic on Saterday and sunday. Fekade was saying the prime minster has collapsed in the meeting. He was saying this on his radio as "breaking news" These people are blatant liers. What do you expect from retaded Dergue Cadres. Your time is gone please give to the Ethiopian Gebere/Peasant peace. I know your retarded cab drivers will not accept that. But that's the reality.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 16:11

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Comment from: GTA [Visitor]

U R ALWAYS MAKING MISTAKES
1.REFERENDOM OF ERITRIA
2.ETHINIC BASED POLATICS
3.RELATING UR LAND POLICY WITH DEMOCRACY
4.FIGHTING WITH ERITRIA
5.CHEATING ELECTION
6.INVEDING SOMALIA
7.PLAYING ON UR POPET PARLAMENT
8.REPEATING Z SAME REPORT FOR 17 YRS
9.ETC....ETC....
10.Z WOREST IS CRITISIZING FEOUS AND PURE ETHIOPIAN ELECTED LEADERS
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1000000. U YOURSELF IS A MISTAKE

LET GOD UNIT US AND SAVE Z COUNTRY

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 16:44

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Comment from: gundan [Member]

“….I know your retarded cab drivers will not accept that….”….Netsanet

Netsanet: For a TPLF intellectual who can’t even spell Saturday, you sure have a big mouth.

Cheers,

-Gundan

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 16:50

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Comment from: Henok D [Visitor]

I won't believe this until I see a video/audio evidence. Meles is like Bush, he never admits guilt. Hassen/Hagos/OgadenBoy, we're not failing in Somalia, Ogaden & Oromia. Your people are paying a price now while you are reading this.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 16:56

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Comment from: Hakimgara [Visitor]

But Aiga Forum (the mouthpiece of TPLF) says He did not say that

I think Washington Post should have a Tigrina section for TPLF's cadres :))

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 17:21

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Comment from: Roofer [Visitor]

Let's count mistakes Meles Zenawi made:

1. becoming woyane and declaring war on Ethiopia for 17 years driving the country into poverity for 17 years.

2.Enabling Eplf.

3. Assisting Eplf break away part of Ethiopia.

4. Allowing EPLF to make Ethiopia land locked.

5. Expediting the independence of Eritrea by filing paper works in international orgs such as UN and OAU.

6. Exploiting Ethiopian economy to build up shaabia's

7. Allowing the deportation of Ethiopians from Eritrea while Eritreans were living in Ethiopia.

8. Murdering Prof. Asrat

9. Dividing Ethiopia along ethnic lines.

10. Sacrificing Ethiopians at Badme for useles and point less war. 70,000 Ethiopians got killed and Ethiopia is still land locked.....etc. etc.

Simply, it is better to describe you as the sum of mistakes.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 17:24

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Comment from: wali [Visitor]

being an american muppet is allways a mistake

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 18:14

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Comment from: Helena [Visitor]

The prime minister is guilty of crimes commited in somalia. He and his masters the USA told us there are AL-QUAIDA in somalia, and that was totaly wrong.
Secondly somalia was a chaotic neighbor with no government and the UIC was able to stablize at least some part of the country and mogadisho for the first time and woyane invasion backed by the US was a very big mistake.
An african country invading another african country in partenership with western country is an insult to the black continent and a burden to ethiopian people which is leaded by illegal and unelected criminal dictator with puppet parliament.
He makes mistakes and mistakes repeatedly but he seems he don't care about it, a law abiding prime minister should have resigned from his post and even the parliament should have impeached him.
Nothing happens and he will be there to kill and terrorize his people and somalians because he don't care about their human value and dignity.
It's time to help the liberation fronts to evict him from Menelik palace and judge him for its crimes infront of the ethiopian people.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 18:26

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Comment from: Adanjama [Visitor]

WHILE ATO ZENAWE IS INFORMING US HIS MISCALCULATIONS, LET ME LIST FOR HIM OUR OWN MISTAKES:
1) We Somalis should have killed you the decade you lived in Somalia & enjoyed life in Mogadishu on the expense of our tax payers. Remember you were being man -handled in those days by colonel Gedi of the NSS, this prime minister's father. Remember Somali officers chufering you around in Mogadishu.
2) Better yet we could have made a deal with Mengistu in 1980 to give us Abdullahi Yusuf & Aydiid, in return we will hand him your four feet midget & dispicable soul to Ethiopia with the condition that all warlords from both sides are hunged immediately.
3) We should have eliminated the founding fathers of warlordism (Yeey & Aydiid)in the early 1980's instead of keeping them in the notorious prison of sodon jirow, to send loud & clear message to the future warlords that crime doesn't pay. Today what we have is, crime does pay if you keep at it long enough. Just look at TFG officials, they all have a criminal rap-sheet that is a mile long. Are we supposed to reward criminals for their crimes in the name of illusive stability?
4) We should have supported the UIC, ONLF, & anybody who called for Jihad on your rag-tag troops, instead we submitted to your occupation to save lifes & look where that shortsighted perception get us, you killed thousands, destroyed our capital, & uprooted 400,000 of our helpless civilians.
5) You didn't make any mistake as far as I am concerned, you just completed Ethiopia's age old aspiration of one day invading Somalia & you will not withdraw unless Somalis show you the door with their determination & blood. I have no doubt that eventually justice will prevail & you & your stooges will one day pay for your crimes against the Somali people, take that to the bank...

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 19:20

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Comment from: solo [Visitor]

NO---NO---NO SIR !!!

That was not a mistake at all.
As a matter of fact that was a " calculated "
move to distabilaize and create clan fiction in somalia. You did not went there to bring peace MR.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 19:46

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Comment from: metene [Visitor]

What is this Woulda, shoulda coulda by Adanjama? My friend you need to know that Somalia is a failed state and something need to be done before it spills over. Yours situation is more of a curse, believe me and it embarrasses me as an African here in the US.
Somalia, not a stateless land but the land of thousand states makes me think that there is not one to blame except your very ego.
Melese speaks his mind, always.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:09

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Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]

folks,

just because something is written on a newspaper,....it doesn't mean that it actualy happened.

Dear Nazret.com,

can you folks post a clip of Meles' sppech to the parliament----so that we can all see for ourselves what he did and did not day?....thanks in advance

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:09

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Balageru

I do not know what hot MITMITA and AUZO are but i hope it is something to eat. For me, no raw meat and hell no, no pork. lools

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:20

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Adamjama

Halleluiah, amen.

I agree with you my friend. We created our own enemy. That shows you Tigreans have no appreciation of what we have done for them at all. They returned the favor we did for them by invading our country, killing our people and even raping our women.

It is not a wasted investment any ways, we learned who these creatures are and we make sure we do not give them a chance again.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:28

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Comment from: Dave [Visitor]

Gross distortion by Washington Post On PM Meles Report!
Here is another distortion like the one perpetrated on Seyoum Mesfin's letter to the United Nations. The Post is now claiming Prime Minister Meles Zenawi told parliament "it was a "made a wrong political calculation" when it intervened in Somalia". Nowhere did the Prime Minister make such a statement whether it was in his speech or during the Q&A session. In short, here is what PM Meles said:
Our mission was to break the Islamic forces and help the Somalis restore peace in their country. We then opened discussions with the clan leaders who were providing critical support to the defeated Islamic militia. After weeks of negotiation, including in Addis Abeba, they assured us they would only address their grievances through peaceful means. We assumed they would keep their word and then started implementing our troop redeployment plan. That was our mistake. After we withdraw two-thirds of our force, the clans started making several miscalculations. They felt the remaining Ethiopian force no longer had the troop strength to be a formidable challenge. Then they not only started attacking us and TFG but also the Ugandan contingent of the AU peace keeping force. However, in due course, we were able to correct our mistakes.
What Washington Post reported is a gross distortion and is sufficient ground for the government to revoke the accredition for the journalist.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:47

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Permalink 06/29/07 @ 20:49

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Comment from: challenger [Member]

what is all the fuss about the Washington Post misquoting Meles? It is self-evident, that Meles didn't read the script as sent from Washington. Simple as that!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 21:19

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Comment from: Debay [Visitor]

He even laid about his name. His name is Legesse not Meles so what do you expect form this AGAME.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 21:52

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Comment from: Abdirizak Isak [Visitor]

To All.

I hope I wasn't dragging my feet for so-long in order to comment here. However, after reading the report and all most all the comments, I have this to say.

First of all, Meles is not a saint but an opportunistic who knows when to strike, but happen to make a deal with people who their tongue and their heart is opposite at all times and those are "The warlords".

Secondly, he trusts a regime that has been losing allies and friends in the Middle East since they invaded Iraq. Even their senior part members are saying "Military Action" was not the case but diplomacy.

Thirdly, I am sure he is not (Meles) mistaken but miss-calculated the consequence of interfering and trusted the untrustworthy warlords seat-driven regime of the so-called TFG.

Now here is the solution. To admit your mistakes it takes courage and commitment, since you are better than the thugs in Mogadishu pull out your troops defend your border and let Somalis decided their own plight, or else you will weaken the strength of your armed forces and create more rebels for yourself.

Remember Somali disunity began after the invasion of Ethiopia in 1977.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 22:13

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Comment from: solomon hailu [Visitor]

Meles admit somalia mistake,God what next
xt .This power freak in order to stay
in power he will continue admiting,insu
lting, harssing and prisonning the innocent people unless everyone stands to fight.

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 22:57

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Comment from: Thunder~~~ [Visitor]

Ok Mr. bandad, this is the beginning of admitting mistakes. What is next, like the vote you stole, the bank you robbed, the hostages that you took now. Man, you stink big time!! Do you know that you bandas still to this day after spending so many times trained by the Americans do not know how to fight? You disgraceful bandas!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 23:12

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Comment from: adddis [Visitor]

much ado about nothing... the same hoop lala occurred when stupid journalist mis- wrote about badme.

get over it guys!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 23:53

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Comment from: mohe [Visitor]

Woyanes are walking naked. Every day, they are exposing their true self. They are showing their true color. People will remember Woyane as clique of gungs who don't remember what they say the next day. Lies and deception are the two core values of woyanes. They are known for their forked tongue and twisted heart. They say one thing in their mother tongue, and a diametrically opposite thing in Amharic or English. They are tigrian nationalist today, and they appear as Ethiopian then next day. These people are losers. Principle is not in their dictionary at all.

Shame on Woyanes!!!!

Permalink 06/29/07 @ 23:53

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Comment from: Harari [Visitor]

Somali "realist"! you don't sound smart as your comments are tainted with bias and brazenly offensive to all Ethiopians. You better look around for a place where you belong! People here are not very happy to read a comment from dummies like you,
Go back to your wasteland (it's not a country actually) and establish a government first…until then

Bon voyage!

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 01:05

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Comment from: girmay [Visitor]

has there ever been a correct political calculation to talk of? the man is bogged down in somalia and somalians have all the right to defend their country against aggressors.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 01:19

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Comment from: Pasti Bet [Visitor]

Woye guuud... (extend guuuuud as needed to acentuate frustration)

Enante sewoch - Machiavelli is playing a game ~ ende, aygebachehum ende? ~ What he says and what he does is the opposite - he intentionally sets rumors of pardon for the jailed politians to have them admit guilt of inciting forceful overthrow of government - which they fell into trap by signing the document - then he says 'what are you Westerners and Diaspora talking about a 'pardon' - the case is in court and it will take it's own course'. Well, if that isn't Machiavelli, I don't know what is.

And now, he talks he's readu for Eritrea and a day later he's made a mistake in Somalia.

Sewoch, mind game is his profession -lies, deciets are is way of life. Theft is reward, demoz. And Ethiopia, ay Ethiopia, she's is least concern.

Pasti Bet

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 01:23

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Comment from: hassen [Visitor]

wey mezebarek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 05:16

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

Abdirizak Isak

"Remember Somali disunity began after the invasion of Ethiopia in 1977."

Very interesting! .....So now we, the Ethiopians, are the cause of chaos of your defunct country???

Bro, please if you ever want to write something sensible, make sure to draft the posting only after the "Merkana" from consuming Khat all afternoon, dissipate from your necrosis brain.

First and foremost, Ethiopia invaded your country only when you guys tried to flex your muscles a little beyond your boundaries. You you thought that Ethiopia was weak because the country was in turmoil with the revolution and also the country was trying to quell the rebellions from northern province and plus with all the Khat consumed the wretched people of Somalia miscalculated the mighty army of Ethiopia; you guys thought the Ethiopian army was divided in many fronts and you wanted to venture in our beautiful Harargue.

But thanks to your allah the merciful, ...bla..bla... the Ethiopian army swept you back to your country.

So, please do not entertain this BS idea that Ethiopia is the cause of all the chaos of your country.

So.. till next time.. Keep on posting

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 05:24

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Comment from: Oromo [Visitor]

Melese you could have learnt from american s that Somalis can not be difeated in their county. They will make mad and mad. I you w should apologise for all of your mistakes you have made to Somalis and Oromos,if apology is enough to get you through. I have to bow down, and save you people.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 05:45

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Comment from: ET [Visitor]

Well, the bank account is full now he can say anything. To Begin with war always wrong until they came and knock your door.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 10:10

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Comment from: be [Visitor]

This fool never was for ethiopian peope
le and ethiopian interest.For fourteen
years he's has lied, divided,and
continue to manpulate innocent people to
stay in power. It is time for him to go,
and he should give other leaders the
chance to direct our country with fresh
vision.
peace!
BE

peace!
Be

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 10:26

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Permalink 06/30/07 @ 10:32

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Comment from: mukhtar [Visitor]

Whether dictator Meles admits his suicidal mistake or not is irrelevant for the Somali people, beacuse he has invaded our country and killed thousands of Somalis. He has to pay dearly for his ill-fated invasion and occupation and his mercenary troops will be forced to withdraw in humiliation. Somali people are known for their hatred towards colonialism and warlordism, that is why the Union of Islamic Courts received the enormous support from the public. Somali freedom fighters are in the foorsteps of Sayid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan and we will liberate our country by any means necessary. Warlords, their mooryaans and apologists will face justice sooner than they think. These warlord thugs will not be rewarded for the destruction of our country, they will be punished severely for their crimes.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 12:54

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Well, you cannot hide who you are simply because your fingers will right what your heart wants them to write.

TPLF people begin to use names like ABDI, HARARI, SOMALI etc. But what they write makes it obvious that the person on the keyboard is a true TPLF supporter.

I do not care what you say Mr. HARARI for i know you are a genuine TPLF supporting Tigre.

But i have to tell you this, your time is numbered. Somali people will weaken you and the Ethiopians will finish off the WOYANE regime.

Peace to Horn

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 12:55

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Comment from: Belay Zeleke [Visitor]

It is clear to observers Melese intervention in Somalia is to divert attention from his domestic political problems.Now,he finally admittted that the invasion is wrong;ironically,using this occation he is also announcing his military readiness against Eritria.These developments are also taking place under same curcumstances;as it was then,at this very moment the government is under increasing international prussere to release the political prisioners.
Once again we have come in full circle to learn,no matter what,the government is commited to solve political problems anly through military means.If such was not the case,as soon as we learn the P/m's admission of mistakes,we should not have been told to brace for another war.This war threat is in line with Sebhat's speech;Nega said then tplf is the sole garantuer of the Eritrian people.Inthat speech he gave hint that his government is disposed to remove the eritrian leadership;as that leadership have showen unwillingness to go along with weyane's plan to declare its independent state.
By now the Ethiopian public and the military should know clearly that,weyane is the only enemy this region has.If weyane goes to war with Eritria,our people need to join the peoples resistance and show tplf the way out.
We oppose the weyanes plan to dominate the region by fomenting war and hate.We dont believe war between the Eritrian and Ethiopian people is the solution to the region.Weyane's rule is a total failur;there is only one soultion to this problem admit the failur,vacate office ,and let the Ethiopian people decide their future.Fomenting about war as a method to deflect attention to long standing political problem is immature behaviour.Not only that Melese's plan to declare independent state as asafe heaven willnot hold up:both Ethio's and Eritrians will wihp you.Who knows they might even work a commen plan to live together:Melese and his minions dont bank on the idea that independet tigria will save you.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 14:12

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

Nazret.com (moderator) is it possible for you at least, to be up front and professional about, why you decided not to post my two comments. I know for fact, did not use profanity. Please give me your answer.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 15:47

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Dear Moderator,
At some point some way or other every one who participated on Nazret.com has feeling and responsibilty of thinking their country betterment. Eventhough their idea and aim is certainly different. As far as I know, i am the pour Ethiopian who thinks for better future of his country.Not only that I am the person who enthustically supported the current government without no hesitation because I believe srongly the current government is the best for Ethiopia at the moment as well as to the future.
If that is the case, then I think I have the right to participated on your discusion program without any differences as much as those whom opposing every about the countrydevelopment. I had tried and
keep trying to submitted my comments and they never be posted if they are then must have deleted at later time. Why is that? because I am supporter of EPRDF? the judgment its rely on you. I have no power on your web.
Thank you

[Dear Yeha, it is the policy of this website to welcome all views as longs as they are inline with the rules of this site.]...Moderator

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 16:44

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Comment from: solomon [Visitor]

the brutal regime leader meles zenawi
is trouble maker he is evil spirit.
all ethiopian we need work together and
remove the tplf regime by all means necessary
meles is trouble creator.
meles he dose't now but peace he is
child killer.
all ethiopian we must tell meles no war
again meles is blood thirsty human be.
all ethiopian we needs pressure the meles
regime to release kinijit leader immediately
also i am asking all opposition parties
work unity. god bless our poor nation.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 17:02

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Comment from: Buju [Visitor]

Somali Realist:
You were the ones who made Meles what he is now.Now he is stabing you in the back,but that is how he is.But,we ethiopians hate him to death for what he did to our country and sending his troops to somalia.However,I want you to keep in mind we will hang for invading Somalia-I garantee you that.

Permalink 06/30/07 @ 17:13

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Comment from: Gorraw [Visitor]

Again, who believes Washington post and New York Times? These amateurs misinform and mis quote. I never thought Meles would say anything like that. Do not believe the West's anti-Ethiopia campaign. Nazret, we know you campaign through your absolute liar bloggers too. I know you would not publish this comment as you did my previous one. To your credit, at least you get people to talk to each other. But you have committed a crime of omission by not publishing Meles's address to parliament.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 00:24

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

Chief moderator: (if there is one). I do not care if you ever allow me again to express my views on your web site or not, I have had it, you have got a true dictator in your staff, may be replacing some one. On thursday, friday and saturday. Who is affiliated with some political groups and is having a hard time to separate his job from his owen political affiliation, personal political views and his constituency by imposing strict censorship on some of us, based up on who supports who. This is not who you are claiming to be and no wonder you are banned from Ethiopia. Your true being can not be hidden forever. You reminded me of communist, hypocrite and anarchist EPRP, in the old days, preaching one thing doing another. This individual is worst than Stallone and Mao Zedung..

[ere tew ]

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 01:12

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Comment from: derbabaw [Visitor]

This ruthless, brainless, enemy of all african people tries to tell us, after destroying a nation and creating enemity among peace loving neighboring countries, that it was a mistake. Yes now that he has deposited the blood money in a foreign bank, the death of somalies and ethiopians was a mistake. Meles is nothing but a paid criminal supported by the US government, and the x-ambassadors and employees of the US embassy in Ethiopia. Thanks to individuals that still cherish the true values of what america is have stood up to say US will not support known criminals wanted for genocide.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 01:13

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Comment from: bashka [Visitor]

waziro condjo

or what eva it is u are called i just cant take it any more to see you telling is lies hargue is not urs and it is for sure a somal area i dont no where the hell u guys came from as u no it was estabilished by our great leader ahmed gurey or as u amharas now him GRANG the man who forced u to eat raw meat lol any way soon harar dire dawa and jigjiga will be incoporated to somalia

loong live GREAT SOMALIYA

[didn't you know that not only Dre and Harar but also Baidoa too is Ethiopia's ]

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 03:34

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Comment from: Mesfin [Visitor]

Hallo Nazreth com,
it is very shame for you.
please correct your text.Pm Melese speech and your text in this web siteis completly diffrent.
from Germany

[Dear Mesfin, that complaint might be appropriate if it were sent to Washington Post]

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 06:02

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Comment from: tilahun [Visitor]

Where is your evidence nazret.com
can you please send your videoclip ?
Or do you think,that we are fools ?

[Relax man Can't you tell who is responsible for the news Washington Post]

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 07:24

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

YOOOOOHOOOOOO Mr. Administrator,

Where are you ???

I know it is "Sunbet" and you have to attend Mass; but again ...

Anyway please do not purge out all these postings that are waiting to be read.

Peace & Respect from Serafet Arogit

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 10:21

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Comment from: Somali realist [Visitor]

Buju

You are 100% right. But it will never happen again.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 11:05

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

" Ere tew" is not the answer I was expecting from you. This is not a jock. You still have not answered my questions, why you have not posted my comments up to this point. You can insinuate all you want with your little face making icons and sarcastic "ere tew" talk. Is that how you deal with some serious issues? I expect an answer from you, for your reasoning to not post my comments. You need take off your yellow moderator jacket and ware your dergue uniform. Cheers

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 11:33

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

That exactly what he is doing purging comments, that does not fit his political believe or constituency. He is hilarious and out of touch.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 11:49

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

An ideolog can not be a MODERATOR for an OPEN public FOURM web site like, nazret.com or otherwise. Whoever you are, needs to purge your self from your position, rather than purging the comments of the mass participants of nazret.com. Fill free to join us to comment and express your political ideology. For you to seat on your chair and delete, of those of us whom you don't agree with, is by far repulsive and disingenuous of you. This to me, is very serious enough for some one at nazret.com to apprehend this individual and take a disciplinary action. He or she can not shut us up, those of us who makes unfavorable comments to this ideolog moderator.

[Dear Ghehon, it is the policy of this website to welcome all views as longs as they are inline with the rules of this site.]...Moderator

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 14:06

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Comment from: Gehon [Visitor]

Ok!! That is fair, what was it about comments , that was out off line? in accordance to your policy. If I did violet your policy, then I am a man enough to apologize to you. Why don,t you answer my simple and fair question? why did you delete my comments? it is a very simple and fair question. Don,t you think in your right mind, my question to is fair and square.

[Gehon: Perhaps you are not aware of this, but Nazret has many volunteer moderators with impeccable character and personal integrity like me. Perhaps one of the moderators thought your post was out of line, I don't know...]....Modeartor

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 14:42

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Comment from: Geshow [Visitor]

here is Meles speech for Prlament
“There was however a military miscalculation on the part of these groups. First, they thought since a large number of the Ethiopians were withdrawn the remaining will be incapable to do much. They were of the view that since the African Union troops were not fully accustomed to the conditions and environment in Somalia, they would be easy prey for successive attacks that will force them out. Second, they thought since others had failed in their previous attempts in Mogadishu the same would be the fate of Ethiopian troops too,” Meles said.

Meles conceded that his government had politically miscalculated that the situation could be resolved peacefully because “the clan elders repeatedly promised to help.”

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 15:08

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Dear Moderator,
thanks for atleat you say something eventhough there is no explanation as why hasn't been posted my comment.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 15:46

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Comment from: Amarech G [Visitor]

I agree with Ghehon and others like myself whose comments got rejected. Some of the things that we post here may be offensive but I think we're all adults. I now feel that nazret.com is a kinigit (CUD) supporter because every time I post anti-CUD comments, they get rejected.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 16:14

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

Gehon,

Stop lamenting because your postings did not show.
So what? There are more to life that your writings.

Your aspersions - about the moderator being inclined to one political ethnic group or favoring certain political views - are totally unjustified.

s/he did dismissed more than 18 postings not only yours.

So get over it and try to write more.

Permalink 07/01/07 @ 18:17

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Comment from: Ibrahim [Visitor]

Meles has done well in Somalia.Beating up the UIC who actually were not religous at all but a bunch of terorist thugs whose main purpose was living off the hard working somali and creating wars across the Horn of Africa. sweebing them up was the best that ever happened to both countries. as result lasting peace is whithin reach. ''Somali realist'' arent u a Mooryaan, your true UIC mooryaan colors come out when you mention tripes and ethnic groups here, an ethiopian site. Dont cry here join yusuf indhacade hide under gorgoradaha dumarkiina.

Permalink 07/02/07 @ 06:54

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Comment from: Hussein [Visitor]

The brutal long period civil war in Somalia and the consequent Somali Diaspora had a positive side effect. It forced Somalis to know better their Ethiopian brothers and Ethiopian their Somali brothers. This created a new feeling, never seen since the Ethiopian Emperor Al Nejashi. This even brought to end the recent hostility of 1964 and 1977.
Unfortunately Mr. Meles Zenawi for his personal and volatile interest renewed the conflict, I’m afraid even for the next decades, and non for "… a wrong political calculation". I remember when I used to ask why our Ethiopian brothers not intervene to end the atrocities perpetuated by these Warlords. No, they did not and no other African country or AU did anything for 16 years of brutality.
Why then now, when for the first time some Somalis dislodged the warlords and restored hope for Somalis, Ethiopian troops interfere to bring them back to power? Why the Ethiopian soldiers are killing Somalis, perpetuating carnage like warlords for the interest of Meles Zenawi?

This is not our interest as Somalis or Ethiopians. Why should we then participate?
I love Somalia, I love Ethiopia, and I love all Africa. Stop Meles and don't let him and New Cons create hatred between our brothers and sisters.

Hussein.

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