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No peace, more terror

May 31st 2007 | NAIROBI


From The Economist print edition


A violent Islamist threat is far from over

"Islamist terrorism in Addis Ababa and Nairobi now seems horribly likely"

IN MARCH and April about 400,000 Somalis fled their capital, Mogadishu, as Ethiopian forces backing Somalia's transitional government razed whole districts in an attempt to destroy the country's remaining Islamist militants. That offensive came only months after the Ethiopians claimed to have defeated Somalia's ruling Union of Islamic Courts in a stunningly swift campaign at the end of last year. Despite Ethiopia's latest claims of success, the country is in as perilous a state as ever.

The child of a failed state
The child of a failed state (The Economist)

Peace-making is still fraught. A national reconciliation conference of clan elders planned for June 14th will not take place, partly because Mogadishu remains too dangerous for any public gathering. Little is expected of a forthcoming meeting of Somalis and foreign countries' representatives in London. One stumbling block is that Somalia's president, Abdullahi Yusuf, and his prime minister, Mohamed Gedi, are still reluctant to talk to the more moderate of their Islamist opponents. Instead, they seem keener to divide and rule, especially the powerful Hawiye clan which predominates in Mogadishu.

In any event, it is uncertain whether the Islamist militants are in a mood to negotiate; despite their losses, they are becoming more effective. The remnants of the Shabab, the Islamic Courts' zealous armed wing, are more aggressive and better organised than before. Ethiopia says its troops killed at least a thousand Shabab fighters in March and April, though human-rights groups say most of the 1,670 recorded dead were civilians. Either way, the ferocity of the Ethiopian offensive forced the Shabab (meaning “youth” in Arabic) to adopt Iraqi-style insurgent tactics, carrying out hit-and-run raids, planting land mines and even using suicide bombers, all of which are new to Somalia. Western intelligence sources say the Shabab has turned itself from a conventional outfit that was clobbered in conventional fighting into a terrorist-type group using the al-Qaeda cell system: 20-30 men in a cell, rotating in and out of the front line, with better intelligence and more sophisticated training.

This is bad news for most Somalis—and for Uganda. It has 1,500 peacekeepers in Mogadishu as part of an African Union mission which is supposed to replace the Ethiopians, whom most Somalis detest as invaders. The Ugandans were to have been backed up by other African forces but none has shown up. Uganda's president, Yoweri Museveni, has resolved to keep his troops, five of whom have been killed, in the line of fire.

But without a comprehensive agreement over Somalia, the present maelstrom could draw in more east African countries and also America, which has already sent special forces to hunt for al-Qaeda suspects there. Al-Qaeda has long tried to incite a jihad against “Christian” Ethiopia and to foster terrorist cells on the Swahili coast, particularly in Kenya. A religious war in Ethiopia looks unlikely right now; Christian-Muslim relations seem fairly stable. But no one knows what success al-Qaeda has had in finding recruits among Kenya's coastal Muslims. Plainly, potential terrorists can still move easily back and forth between Kenya and Somalia. Islamist terrorism in Addis Ababa and Nairobi now seems horribly likely.

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msg Comment from: dude [Visitor]
The economist has nothing good to say on any issue and note that they always have something concerning ethiopia. It is as if they are running a campaign against us.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 15:52

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msg Comment from: Anyways [Visitor]
People, The Economist.com is simply dont like anything of a country called Ethiopia. They never covered any economics news about Ethiopia but very active in Ethiopian politics and twisting the truth as much as they could. How they could say there is no peace in Somalia? after all, Somailia is a country without law and order for the last 17 years.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 15:59

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msg Comment from: abebe Getahun [Visitor]
You folks who are going to celebrate the millennium with woyane better not set foot in Addis or else you will be victims of terrorist attacks by Somalis.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 16:19

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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]
Dude,

you observation is right on the mark!

back in December,...the Economist had declared that the UIC would capture Baidoa from the TFG/Ethiopian troops. Since then,...it has consistently been wrong about Somalia and Ethiopia.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 16:26

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msg Comment from: ali eelaay [Visitor]
Ethiopia be aware the blood of Somalia is a heavy price to pay!!! we will unite under IUC and we will cut you into mini states!!! you can not ever stay in our land with out a fight, and we will fight you forever until there is no longer Ethiopia. LONG LIFE GREAT SOOMALI, LONG LIFE ERITERIA!
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 16:35

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msg Comment from: somali [Visitor]
it seems like the instructions from uncle sam have backfired and the horn of Africa is pregnant with religious wars. If Ethiopia does not get out of Somalia, we will see deaths and destructions all over. In couple of months very valuable infrastructure in addis might go down. This will create more hatred and only the hatred mongers will benefit. If there is any one with senses please advise this woyane dictators not to force warlords and dictators on the Somali people. Let the Somalis choose whom they want.
I hope there will be more united daughters and sons of the Horn despite these dictators who are dividing our people.
Allah bless the horn and rid us off dictators who have made us poor and iliterate despite the magnitude of wealth you bestowed upon us.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 16:49

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msg Comment from: TruEthiopian [Visitor]
Ethiopia First.... all day, every day... TWICE ON SUNDAY.

May God continue to bless the nation and people of Ethiopia.


Ethiopia First- i would die for you, my dear. Ain't no other country like Ethiopia .. how come i don't see any patriotic individuals that are willing to make some noise as to 'One Ethiopia' without fighting about who's in power and all these little rebels (OLF, ONLF... etc), why can't we stand together, do you all know how much of an asset Ethiopia is ? Do you all know that being an Ethiopian is a prvilage and honor. Until the day i get burried in your dirt, Ethiopia, i will always hail your name, as you are a land of free, virgin, untapped, no white-man's land and cradle of man-kind (wowww.. how many other countries can you say that about)

I love you Ethiopians and Ethiopia only.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 16:55

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msg Comment from: Tedemach [Visitor]
I expect worse from The Economist. It is anti-Ethiopia magazine. Generally speaking, the British media has been negative on Ethiopia for the last few years. It is something to ponder about. Clearly it is by design. We just have to figure out the motive.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 17:44

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msg Comment from: nuna [Visitor]
TruEthiopia,
Add TPLF to your list of LFs you mentioned above.Loving Ethiopia means loving and respecting its people's rights and freedom.Invading a neighboring country and create chaeos is not loving Ethiopia, to the contrary it's trying hard to destroy Ethiopia.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 18:02

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msg Comment from: sharon [Visitor]
it is true
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 18:09

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msg Comment from: biniam [Visitor]
This is only the begining !

how can ethiopia be trusted ????
no one can.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 18:49

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msg Comment from: Deder [Visitor]
It is good to see a solution at any level with any body whether "terrorist" or not if it leads to peace. Especially for ethiopia it is a big chance to come to a dialogue and leave Somalia if it is wise. Look America after years in Iraq started to talk with fighters as a solution what ever have been said before. Any time who refuse dialogue with his the other party he himself is anti peace who ever he is even legal government. So Ethiopia who is known for its poverty, draught, harbouring all kind of human sufferings can not afford to ignore any kind of opportunityb that brings peace to Somalia. Otherwise it will regret forever. Meles must see what Americ's new exit strategy in Iraq as leaving with out more disgrace. If America was to see this strategy earlier was a great saving of distruction in human life and resource that darkened the name of the world as civilized when we see America's action in Iraq.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 19:23

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msg Comment from: Anti-Meles [Visitor]
Want to hear only 'wishful thinking' dude! On the contrary The Economist is a highly respected and independent magazine, unlike none of the junks you call press in Addis, I guess.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 19:31

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msg Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]
If it was a British he should have known how many people died in a single day in Spain and London. How can he forget the decade old Iraq type sectarian violence that claimed thousands of lives; in Northern Ireland between the Catholic minority on one side and the protestant majority and the British on the other.

Where is the gloom and doom in Somalia, people don't die as in South African and American Ghettos. Did he forget that Europeans were responsible for the holocaust and the genocide in Rwanda. They had the army and the gun to stop the later, they chose to look the other way. Why does not he write about the great failure of the US and British in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Russians in Chechnya.

Ethiopia is there to provide peace and development for both nations. The Somali are sick and tired of war and lawlessness and the Shabab whose name is even not Somalian will be chewed like the chat that has sent him nuts. Peace to the horn of Africa, only the enemies are happy when they see a smoke and flock to pour gas on it to see the roaring and raging fire, that consumes Africans.

PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 19:52

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msg Comment from: fish [Visitor]
May be economist is CUD's news paper. You primitive woyanes when the truth come out, always don't admit your mistake and learn from it. What does it get from ilitrate ppls like you. They are based on facts and statstics. when the primitive meles was a friend to Tony blair you stupids always quote from those magazines now when your primitiveness and violent nature depart the west from away, now you start to cry about them. What goes around comes around you hav to live with it and it is our time to lough at you creatures.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 21:08

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msg Comment from: Mulatu [Visitor]
The Economist, a very biasd paper. Always on the NEGATIVE side of reporting. Too bad it is not based in Africa. The editor as well as those that run it would be found shriveling minus a few or all their balls. Hahahahahhahah HA.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 21:34

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msg Comment from: Ethio-soul [Visitor]
The Economist is right on the mark. The Tplf regime's (mis) adventure is taking the region to a disastor. Tplf is in a bloddy quagmire. They can not leave and at the same time they can not stay. What a bunch of morons.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 23:19

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msg Comment from: b real [Visitor]
more propaganda. another attempt by western media to promote the identification of the ICU w/ al qa'idah in order to legitimate the invasion & prop up the warlord-TFG. plus, it takes the focus off the war crimes & illegal occupation by meles' grunts & builds the case for a more overt u.s. presence.

c'mon, the writers at the economist expect us to swallow the bait that al qaidah is the originator of 20-30 person resistance cells that try to use the best intel available? and are we to believe that there is no history of "hit-and-run raids" or the use of land mines in somalia? the article is a waste of time. pure propaganda. they're selling more than ads, those guys.

even the "terrorism" experts at west point admit that the al qa'idah bogeyman never set up operations in the horn. actually, they say that stable states, like kenya, are the places that are more attractive to any international organizations.

search on the report "Al-Qa'ida's (mis)Adventures in the Horn of Africa" from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point for the details.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 23:28

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msg Comment from: Man [Visitor]
One thing you have to understand, if you are somalian terrorist. This are not the same people your terrorist brother fighting in Iraq, these are Ethiopians. They don't need bodyarmor, they dont need armored humvees,they aint scared of Jihad. As a plus as long as US doesnt get involved, the international community does give a crap about somalia for that matter africa. As international media, wont give a hoot if somalian/black Jihadis kill another black which means you wont get any victory,unless it is a media from egypt and iran.
That will give the heroic ethiopian defense force ample time to hunt you miserable sucms down one by one.
And the last point, Somalians are actively participating to control their own destiny,unlike wussie Iraqis who are killing eachother.
A dream of peaceful somalia, wont be long. As the strongest horn nation Ethiopia,roaring already.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 23:36

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msg Comment from: Alena [Visitor]
The faith of woayanes and their alike will start to unfold like Indian movie.
The story is so obvious that all medias are warning woyanes of their stupidity.
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 23:36

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msg Comment from: Warrior [Visitor]
People I have said it before and I am going to say it again, what ever this Economist or New York Times etc. are saying about Ethiopia is not the last word in the bible. They seem to capitalizing major current issues by using image to tarnish Ethiopia’s effort against terrorism and involvement in Somalia. They have done it before indiscriminately: 1)during the Emperor era to tarnish the Emperor image with out knowing the depth, 2)during the Derge era with out respecting our national interest because of the Derge’s alignment with USSR, 3)now under EPRDF and will do it in the future as well. Let us not get surprised it is only they are serving their interest trying to get famous and get promoted in their report. Perhaps to be named a senior reporter just like Ted Koppel or what ever. Recently there was a report that three New York Times journalist slipped in Ethiopia through Nairobi to cover a story about Ogaden with out any permission from Ethiopia what so ever and their As…..s got locked up. I say good job by the Ethiopian government. The worst would have happened against Ethiopian journalists if it was in the US soil. According to the article those journalists age were from 35- 40 fairly middle age to cover a story in that magnitude and not experienced yet. So my point is it does not matter whether if the journalist is from famous news agency they do provide inaccurate information and propagate information that can be very dangers and that can incite blood shade especially in Africa. As it happened in may part of Africa. Journalists suppose to have accountability and responsibility of their work. I do not see that especially from the Economist. They have a serious agenda on ETHIOPIA which I do think they will get no where. I suspect there may actually be some Shabiyas or anti Ethiopian Somalians employed by this news agencies. To be bombarded by this kind of resentment. AMESEGENALHU
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/07 @ 23:48

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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil [Visitor]
"Islamist terrorism in Addis Ababa and Nairobi now seems horribly likely"

Why is it that such a "respected magazine" as The Economist jinxing our beloved Ethiopia?

Ra

[Ra'Oeil, welcome back Ra'Oeil. ]
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 00:23

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Eshetu Daba,

You wrote, "Why does not he write about the great failure of the US and British in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Russians in
Chechnya"

Who will read it? Americans are more interested in the upcoming incarceration of Paris Hilton than the people of Iraq losing their life on a daily basis. So most of American journalists prefer to meddle in other people life and write all kind of nonsense and at the end of the year mayhee someone will give him the Pulitzer or the Peabody Award for that piece of articles written under the influence of alcohol.
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 00:43

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msg Comment from: omo [Visitor]
Unlike many other countries where the relation of the two main religions of Christianity and Islam had been marred with discord, hate and even killings, Ethiopia was lucky that she had centuries of harmonious and peaceful coexistence of Christians and Moslems. Today the petrodollars of Saudi Arabia and other Moslem countries are used to destabilize and destroy other religions and philosophies except Islam, and create in the long run a world with one religion and if possible even one language. Ethiopia is one of the targets of this 21 century jihad.
So, how can we fight this grave danger? Of course not the Melese way, by invading a sovereign country like Somalia. There are peaceful means of fighting Moslem fundamentalism. The main burden lies with our Christian and Moslem leaders, which should preach every Sunday and Friday the brotherly love that existed and should continue to exist between their two believers, and point out that both ways guide to the same destination and Christians and Moslems are the children of the same God.
The government of Ethiopia on the other hand, should introduce in the educational system the lesson of inter-religious relations and the importance of equality and peaceful coexistence of all religions, so that future generations will not be mislead by religious fundamentalist.
Ethiopian Christians and Moslems must celebrate together their holidays and show their unity and brotherly love and demonstrate to the religious fundamentalists that they are children of the same motherland, Ethiopia.
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msg Comment from: Amsterdamer [Visitor]
Fish…

When do u learn the word "primitive".? There are more words to describe your opinion dude. Don't use one word 10x
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 06:55

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msg Comment from: chala [Visitor]
this colonizing mentality newspaper always have a probleam that any thing to do with ethiopia..
I SAY WITH ETHIOPIA NOT WITH THE RULING PARTY ... THATS WHY I HATE THEM AND NEVER READ THARE PAPER.
i think the newspaper have with the cantry that not colonized to europians so that they dont want to see any good of that cantry. they want to make a lesson for others to teach them coloni is good.
so i say to them fa** off
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 07:06

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msg Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]
The economist is infiltrated by CUD, that is why they do not get the economics right, let alone African politics. They think they know what is good for Ethiopia as they see it from their windows in London. They are to fat to travel to collect fact and data, they just compose fiction of the doom and gloom of Ethiopia's positive contribution in the region. They fore casted that Ethiopia has created its own Iraq; does it happen of course not. They can't forecast any thing right every thing they write is always wrong, I would not be surprised if they go bankrupt soon.
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 11:04

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msg Comment from: somalirealist [Visitor]
The Economist is telling it as it is on the ground. People are pissed and they are hunting down TPLF troops and their STOOGES.

We did not initiate the war, we are responding to it. We will not be satisfied untill we see the end of TPLF rule in Ethiopia and untill we eliminate any possibility of their return to power in the future.

The mission is being expanded and the target is the THUGS, TPLF where-ever they are in the HORN.

The fact is TPLF started the war but they cannot stop it. Here we come TIGRE state.

Peace to Horn.
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msg Comment from: somalirealist [Visitor]
Eshetu Daba,

The Economist forecast is real and coming. There will be more chaos in Horn because of the DUMP decision of your TPLF comrade. Wait and see to tell.
PermalinkPermalink 06/01/07 @ 13:37

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msg Comment from: Tewodros salsawi [Visitor]
All of you who are from somali (not somalia there is no such thing as somalia). Ethiopian troops are wwith you bleeding for you in the southern part of Ethiopia. It is expected from you to feed them well and prepare them for their next mission to the northern part of their and your country Eritrea.

We are one people there is no other choice than uniting under the mother land Ethiopia. and creating the future jiant "United states of Ethiopia"
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msg Comment from: mogadishu boy [Visitor]
why males is attacking somalia is not only for money, males was living in house of the somali so called prime minister in mogadishu at 1980,
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msg Comment from: Tewodros salsawi [Visitor]
Somali ( I mean the whole Somali including somaliland and puntland) is just one province of THE GREAT ETHIOPIA. What do you mean by INVASION?

HOW CAN ONE INVADE HIS OWN COUNTRY?



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msg Comment from: Suke-Bederete [Visitor]
The Economist is a respectable news outlet...
Just don't brat your self-centered old and unnecessary pride of that country whenever you read a news from such and such western media that negate the journey that country is making...

It is a prediction of the way things are going on the ground...
It may end the other way....
But this is just an analysis...
And I take it to be true...

Otherwise don't always cry about western midia baised about that "proude" country...
...........
proude of what?
drought and 3000years civil war?
shame on us!
We better wake up and do something good insteade of talking about bla blas

Get the hell out of somalia

Clean your home first before trying to do it at yo9ur neighbour
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msg Comment from: Mulatu [Visitor]
Somali man, you are one lunatic eritrean. I know you are not Somalian. Your desire to see the end of Woyane gave you away. See, Somalis are fighting Ethiopian forces while Shabea/Eplf is fighting Woyane/Tplf. Get it???????

Mr. Teodros, slow down. We Ethiopians have no desire or need to assimilate with Somalia. No thank you. You sound :crazy: if you know what I mean.
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