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Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality

12/22/08

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Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality

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Abune Paolos, the patriarch of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church seen here with Beyonce in October 2007

Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality

ADDIS ABABA (AFP) — Religious leaders in Ethiopia on Monday urged lawmakers to amend the country's constitution to ban homosexuality in a move they argue could further strengthen existing codes.

At a meeting in the Ethiopian capital, nearly a dozen religious figures, including heads of Ethiopia's Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant churches, adopted a resolution against homosexuality, which they termed as "the pinnacle of immorality."

They also blamed homosexuality for the rise in sexual attacks on children and young men.

"This is something very strange in Ethiopia, the land of the Bible that condemns this very strongly," said Abune Paolos, the patriarch of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church.

"For people to act in this manner they have to be dumb, stupid like animals," he told reporters. "We strongly condemn this behaviour. They (homosexuals) have to be disciplined and their acts discriminated, they have to be given a lesson."

Homosexuals can be jailed for a minimum of six months in Ethiopia, where hostility towards gays is high and sexual practices are very conservative.

But while homosexuality is illegal under the country's penal code, it is not mentioned in the constitution.

"We urge parliamentarians to... endorse a ban on homosexual activity in the constitution," the resolution read.

It also urged the government to establish more rehabilitation centres and to place strict controls on the distribution of pornographic materials.

The head of local NGO United for Life Ethiopia said homosexuality was not a human rights issue.

"Here we don't believe that it is and we don't believe that it is related to creation -- it has no biological base," head Sium Antonios said.

"It is unacceptable, it is immoral. Every religious leader said in one voice that it is the pinnacle of immorality," he added.

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msg Comment from: Halafi Mengedi [Visitor]
I agree with churches. Gay ethiopians, please eliminate them. Ethiopia does not need gays. They are sick people and needs treatments and confine in prison if they do not change their behaviors after treatments. They should be wiped out from the world as a whole, this not a civil right this human distruction sementegnaw shi zemen.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:02

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msg Comment from: GojamArsoBel [Visitor]
:)):)):)):)):)):)):)):))

As never before seen in the history of Ethiopia, 12 million Orthodox believers are lost, irreversibly, to non-orthoodxy. This is unprecedented in our history.

Perhaps Patriarch Paulos (murderer a monk) wants a distraction here by making a non-issue an issue?
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:08

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msg Comment from: kate [Visitor]
this is very funny, anyway how many homosexuals live in ethiopia? the papal need to concentrate with some real issues. such as the decline number of orthodox belivers across the country. plus his own purity.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:14

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msg Comment from: haileyesus [Visitor]
I agree with the religious leader for calling on the parliamantarians (even though i have reservation about their true representation)to inact laws against homosexuality.It is an abomination to be involved in such a satanic act.We have to be PROACTIVE and not delay.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:24

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msg Comment from: Ali Roble [Visitor]
Is there anythig better this moron debteras could to do? Were where they have been while while scourges of Aids and HIV spread, not by homos, but by poverty and through rampant prostitution that were the halmarks of Abassynian pseudo-kingdom over the centuries that devastated millions of Ethiopians? I They were part and parcel of the problem than the solution by supporting religio and ethno-supremist schemes and politics. How about the current political oppression and crimes perpetuated by monolith and minority group?gr
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:30

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msg Comment from: teklulaw [Visitor]
I believe this is a great joint move by religious leaders. Even though there are not that many under-cover gay Ethiopians, for the leaders to be proactive and try to enforce this a constitiutional ban to this act is something they should be given all the credits. This, of course, is "a pinnacle of immorality".

But it is to be seen whether Meles who is rumored to have a love affiar with Al-amoudi would support it. Let time reveal it.

peace to y'all.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 17:36

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msg Comment from: Tezebet [Visitor]
There are so many other issues that put Ethiopian young women and young kids endanger. The rape issue widely spread in our society and soon destroys Ethiopian as a society. More than a guy subject we should speak up about the abuse of the women, the abuse of innocent babies. For me gay is a list problem for that country or this church …to make it clear i am not endorsed or against it….our church should work on the issue I list…
1. Rape is the heights problem in our country and destroys our sister and including very young babies. as a society we are not discuss this issue our people don’t want talk about it, so do the victim afraid to speak up… sometimes a few courage women speak about it or come upfront, society look at them down or society blame them for the incident.
2. Child rap is the worst cream I heard in that country. A number of rape rise up more and more every year…At the matter of face I read this issue (child rap as young as 2 years old). The people who do this crime should be jailed or killed… abusing a very innocent child should not be tolerated in whatever way or shape.
3. Early baby girl marriage is one of the very sad traditions we have that should be stop.
4. Prostitution is the other issue this church should work on it. Our young sister from south to north from east to west immigrates to Addis to seek a better life but they ended up in the street of Addis selling their body. It makes me sad to see these young kids ended up to this kind of life styles.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 18:00

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msg Comment from: masinkomechew [Visitor]
i think it's not normal and this people need help ] after getting help if they still doing it they need be in prison so that they will not poison the rest of the world.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 18:25

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msg Comment from: balcha [Visitor]
Actually, it is encouraging to condemen this immoral activity specialy from the land of the Bible however, this was not the only time that we need to hear from the un popular patriaric. We also need to hear him during decisive times such as when mass murder commited in the country, when people are totaly indespar of they daily bread,...etcDont tell me that is all about politics, that is a question of moral
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:03

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msg Comment from: EthioStar [Visitor]
Hade seeing image of dis celebrity, decent and diligent woman escorted by dis imp and pimp--Petros. Unmatched couple. He beder leder 'lone n keep his eyez on ...LOL.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:07

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msg Comment from: one ethiopia [Visitor]
Finally so called abune paolos or (TAGAYE DABELOS) did the right thing. If you continue this way we Ethiopians will be behind you. And I promise I will never call you (TAGAYE DABELOS) again. About homosexual. I support any law that against gays. You remember what happen 911 in USA. Don’t give any right to gays. Other ways you will be punished like USA. We should treat them the way we treat the terrorist. It means they should be wiped out the face of the earth ones and for all. Are you with me? Or with gay and terrorist?
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:19

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msg Comment from: justic09 [Visitor]
Abune Diablos has no credibility. He never denounced the immoral acts of Woyanne against Ethiopian people. Where was he when hundreds of people were tortured and killed everywhere in Ethiopia? Why doesn’t he make a statement against the brutality of the TPLF cadres?
Homosexuality should be left as personal issue between God and that individual.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:24

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msg Comment from: Ethiopian Kid [Visitor]
IGNORANCE IS THE WORST ENEMY OF MANKIND. THIS MUST NOT BE AN ISSUE TO MAKE A BID DEAL IN THE ETHIOPIAN SETTING. ALL THE STUDIES IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD SHOW THAT THESE PEOPLE - GAYS- NEVER CHOSE THEIR ORIENTATION.

I FOR ONE CAN NOT IMAGINE FOR A SECOND CHOOSING THIS LIFESTYLE. IT IS COMPLETELY UNNATURAL AND REPULSING FOR ME. BUT GOD FOR REASON UNKOWN TO MOST OF US CREATED THESE PEOPLE THIS WAY.
AS MINORITIES LIVING IN THE WEST, WE SHOULD BE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISCRIMINATION THESE PEOPLE FEEL. IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS TO JUDGE. SOME 50 YEARS AGO IT WAS A CRIME TO MARRY A WHITE WOMAN IN AMERICA.

BEFORE YOU JUDGE AND DISCRIMANTE, LEARN AND OPEN YOUR EYES AND BE TOLERANTE.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:27

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msg Comment from: tola [Visitor]
Interesting...How about banning people that don't follow the 10 commandment such as You shall have no other gods before me, you shall not make for yourself an idol, you shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God, Remembering the Sabbath and keeping it Holy and who ever does not should be banned,honoring your father and mother, you shall not kill, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness against your neigbor, you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, you shall not covet anything that belongs to your neigbor...how about all this stuff....is there such a thing as a small sin and a bigger sin...isn't a sinner a sinner...How about the Churchs Ban Poleticians cuz they certainly do not follow any of Gods words...i don't get it...didn't God gave human beings free will and doesn't the church preach that...doesnt every church also preach that you shouldn't force someone in to beliving something...i mean aren't we all here for a reason realy...The church belives that God knows everything before it even happens and if that is the case are we saying that God knowingly that we will be born and be sinners and go to hell created us anyways so we can go to hell (does that mean God is a mean God)...I just would like to say that there are many many important issues out there especially for a country like Ethiopia and they want to consentrate on stuff like this?...even if we think of it outside the religion, is it fair to vote on Human right and say you can be this but you can't be that...imagin if someone talled you that you can't be a girl or a boy or black or white....and for either the girls or the boys out there is it fair for someone to marry a girl or a boy knowing that he or she is homosexual...is it fair for the other perosn?...They say don't judge a book by it's cover and untill you are in someone ealses shoo, you will never know how the other person fills so i belive the church should leave this out...the curch should be loving just as Jesus was...who are we to judge people...
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:27

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msg Comment from: justice09 [Visitor]
Abune Diablos has no credibility. He never denounced the immoral acts of Woyanne against Ethiopian people. Where was he when hundreds of people were tortured and killed everywhere in Ethiopia? Why doesn’t he make a statement against the brutality of the TPLF cadres?
Homosexuality should be left as personal issue between God and that individual. There are many descent people who happened to be Homosexuals. The problem in Africa has nothing to do with Homosexuality. It is dictators like Meles who are destroying civil liberties and over all humanities.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:31

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msg Comment from: cherkos [Visitor]
hahahahah abune paouls it's a good point are you bannin your self ? I know some ppl who leavin in addis who is Gay........... most of them are next to a patriach.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 19:50

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msg Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
homosexuality = against humans race. Which is design to stop human race from circulations. Any where in world shouldn't be practiced b/c some sexlunetic want diffrent way of normal, that dosen't mean it should be........ good job Ethiopian religious group
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 20:20

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msg Comment from: newer neww [Visitor]
what is next muslims,pente,Gehova's,
this is indevigual rights it not up to this religus group to decide for thoe homosexuals.
they are get involve in civel libery
not religus ground.
they are becoming those Islamic courts from next door.
We are a librated people we should never exept restriction with our rights in all forms.
TELL THOSE KESOCH TO GO TO AFIGANISTAN AND THEY WOULD FIT RIGHT IN WITH THIS KING OF VEIW.:crazy:
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 21:06

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msg Comment from: ethiopiawi [Visitor]
i was in ethiopia few month a go ethiopians never go with homosexuality issu we never let that happen in ethiopia when i was AA university back in 2003 there was 1 in few days he left the compas the people of ethiopia stand together and stop this it is never in our country history
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 21:09

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msg Comment from: yagere sew [Visitor]
Ye poletecaw kusel saysher bekerew
emenetu hege Egeziabheren lemetelalef meshat gelesebawe mebet becha sayhon ensesawe yehone demenefesaw enkesekase selehon tenaw yetawek kalehon yesew fetur yezi senemegebar tequdash lehon ayechelem
selezih endeh yale zekach zega Ethiopia selemyasefelegat yesene amero mehuroch kesebawenet aquya
bereduachew aleyam beheg kuteter ser
bewelu benechechu yekeralu.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 21:18

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msg Comment from: merkoreyos [Visitor]
Do not be altra this is not modernization rather than being hobo
this is Europian influnce throw it in the trash take your strong Ethiopiawenet alebeletheya bezefen deleka begebere sedom bealesemam bayenet ye Nohzemen tefat ena
ketat tekebay endanehon.pLEASE REFERAIN FROM SUCH ACT USE YOUR MAIND
DO NOT DRIVE YOUR SELF LIKE ANIMALS AND EVERY BODY CONDEM THIS ACT this is not our cultur and belive.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 21:44

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msg Comment from: Fiks [Visitor]
Now, all the asylum seekers from Ethiopia will be as homosexuals. Before they pretended to be Oromos.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 22:25

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msg Comment from: wedi Adi [Visitor]
The pentes are undercover faggs.
PermalinkPermalink 12/22/08 @ 23:32

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msg Comment from: abebe [Visitor]
People should understand that now we are talking about Ethiopia not USA
and that Ethiopia doesn't need any more dumb cultures(we already have many of them)
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 00:13

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msg Comment from: Melelo [Visitor]
This low life perverts, Homosexuals, are not an issue in Ethiopia. I don't know why they are making a big deal about it.

One thing I like about my country is we don't have this un-human people. I hope we keep it like that.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 00:27

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msg Comment from: Nolawi [Visitor]
We are all human beings and should respect the sexual orientation of citizens of the country. Homosexuality is nothing more than having different view on issues. Mr.Homophobic get out of your entrenched hate towards people who are different. Even the Bible did not deny that such kind of people lived in the holy land and near east. Sodomy and Sodomites were living together with other straight people in God's land. No need to reduce the truth to what you dislike, accept the differences. For that matter, God loves everyone including muslims who marry many wives to hide their pervert tendencies legally...Haven't you heard all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. God is big to fight for himself he doesn't need anyone's help to solve problems...there is is no heroism in hating others but sacrifice in loving who are different. Please clean up your views and leave individual cases to the courts not to the parliament if homosexuals err.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 01:44

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msg Comment from: omo [Visitor]
The church should educate our people on the unnaturalness of homosexuality rather than be the one who will cast the first stone at homosexuals. Our unholy abune has no moral right what so ever to bring back to Ethiopia the Spanish Inquisition and start burning any body that might have a different sexual preference.
It is much more sinful when a patriarch of the Ethiopian church becomes a fanatic tribal chauvinist, the slave of money and a paid politician, supporting and working for a dictatorial regime, than a person who thinks that it is his personal right to do whatever he wants with his own body. This is hypocrisy on the part of the abune and others. Who knows what these church leaders are doing in their castles, far from the public eyes, after a feast of raw meat and the most expensive whisky? Let’s not forget the boys and girls that were raped by the leaders of the Catholic church and others!
Homosexuality existed from ancient times, and may be it was much more common in ancient societies before the birth of Christianity, which most probably taught people that homosexuality is not a normal behaviour for male and female. The present trend in the west, as we all know is, unfortunately, beyond simple homosexuality the right for gay marriage.
Confrontation will not help. Educating people may be more effective. Ethiopians are a conservative society and they can easily be persuaded by our revered elders and church leaders, of course, not by the abune, to be far from such a behaviour which is morally inappropriate and socially detrimental.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 02:21

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msg Comment from: wepE [Visitor]
I agree homos have no right to be found in our holy land! It's a deliberate mental sickness the white leaders imposed on their own people in their everlasting processes towards 'democracy' under one world gov't! Die you homos whether if you really think you are homos or you just are so dumb that you do it to provoke people!








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PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 02:23

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msg Comment from: kal [Visitor]
Here u come again Aba Dabilos come up with some bull s**t, I don’t think homosexual is a big problem in Ethiopia right now, there are a lot of things had to done, instead going far for things which is never concerned in people life, they could help spiritually for people on the street who has lost there hope and dignity. Beside that “ Aba Dabilos” need to stand for Ethiopian people when it come to issue like politic since he is spiritual father plus he also has to be neutral for any political party.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 02:24

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msg Comment from: tesfa [Visitor]
for me i think to ban the Gay means to disriminate minority but we have to try to u derstand why and how?
We need to take time to. Think about it instead of crashing our emotion.
They also are people like us so the gov. Must with same eyes every citizens but we have condamen pedophiles.
Liberty, fraternity, freedom, equality and free expression for
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 02:29

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msg Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]



"The head of local NGO United for Life Ethiopia said homosexuality was not a human rights issue"

FYI,

The text of the Universal Declaration is at: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html


. . . I am not against these clerics seeking ban with these groups but, whether we like it or not this cannot be eradicated instead, it will be spreaded out all over the world. . .mark my words!. . .

. . .we have to accept the rights of every human without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. . .

All we have to do is to teach our children what is right, wrong and forbidden and raise them with fear to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!

May god Bless you All!!!


PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 03:07

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msg Comment from: hagos [Visitor]
This is blatant discremination against homosexual society.

I donot accept this idea!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 03:37

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msg Comment from: c´moi senait [Visitor]
So let ´s starat with ARAB Hom#¤% that are now spreading this into ethiopia with the help of that shiek Alamooozi.Some says this person is a Hom¤# who uses small childrens like Michel jackson....heheh Do n´t forget that there are these Help org, full of HOM¤# and Lesb%¤# in Addis and the Adaptaion org. are the main Export of ethiopian childrens to Phad#¤fyle,Hom%"#¤ and Lesb¤%. These dirty weyanns busines is poisens our peoples. Wach out for New ethiopians who come from West specially in USA where this dirty manner is widley spread among the newly ethiopian.... They should be sent to take a bath in churches so that they will be CLEANED if they want to live in ethiopia.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 04:47

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msg Comment from: peace [Visitor]
o my god, :!: don't we have other big "problems" then homosexuality:?: starvation, war, racism, corruption and much, much more others. Is it realy the biggst issue we have to talk about on this higher level like that called "demo" "cratic" Parliamant or the so called holly churches, right now? or are we just coping the western countries to measure our "development" which it is realllly not.Lord forgive us, then we don't know what we do. I believe it is our fear to axcept each other also as individuals with individual peculiarity or personal quality. In a democratie actually should be a peacefully coexistance garanted for every single person in the society, regardless his or her belief, political conviction, race, sexual preference and gender, just like those people who rules the country in diffrent position of a "power".
where did they get their right to thier way of life including all this things above? where did this people get the right to juge over our nation, including "THE HOLLY PATRIARCH" and the parliamantarians? maybe from GOD?:oops:indisputable:!:holly holly. come on they are chaseing us against each other without even we have a clue about it.. They should only remember GOD'S word to "DO NOT JUGE" and "DEMOCRATIE" depends on a readiness of a society for
it.

=>Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality"

With this kind of attitudes of our HOLINESS. GOOD NIGHT DEMOCRATIE....


P.S
Hopefulllllly the darkness wouldn't least very long and may GOD protect us from beast of prey.:crazy::crazy:

Don't forget, we are a nation with a lot of peaceful human potential to create a better ETHIOPIA for everyone of us, even for those with diffrent sexuel preference.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 05:45

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msg Comment from: king solomon [Visitor]
if iwere a god iwill elimenat those homosexual from sur face of the earth
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 05:47

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msg Comment from: mesfin [Visitor]
Once in the past, it seemed unacceptable 4 blacks 2b equally treated as whites. Now we have a black president in the USA , thanks 2 the already installed system by non-blacks as well. Could we learn some lesson from the past? I hope one day in the future, people with “non-traditional sexual orientation” would remember this challenging and unfair days only in history books. What do u want them 2b, if they are created so? Modern science has already managed 2 identify a specific gene responsible 4 homosexuality n there is no way 4 them 2b heterosexuals. If there is any homosexual in this room, my sympathy goes to you. Keep on fighting and we will stand by your side. Know that u have a lot of proponents among “heteros”.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 06:08

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msg Comment from: Dinberu D. [Visitor]
Homosexuality is a work of devil,those people must jailed lifelong, before they bring curse for our beloved country.
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msg Comment from: Dinberu D. [Visitor]

Nazreth.com,why you paste this picture?
Is Boyance homosexaul?
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 07:00

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msg Comment from: Brito [Visitor]
They must have listened to news from California lately, funny. lol.
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msg Comment from: Money 4 Nothing [Visitor]
This is a very good call! Every rational humanbeing should fight these anti-human forces. Aggressive Atheism, Radical Islam and Homosexuality are the Marks of the beast. They all are enemy N°1 of humanity. They all have a mission to conquer our Earth. Let's stop them, stop them now!
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 08:31

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msg Comment from: Balageru [Visitor]
may God protects our children from Satan indeed any children for that matter. homosexuality has been advertised in the west. i don't hate anyone but i don't like the idea of promoting any sexuality. i don't go around telling people that i am straight, my sexuality remains in the bedroom with the woman i love. please don't come up with nonsense political correctness that born to be gay. we have seen well known celebrities 'came out' after years of successful marriage with children suddenly they are born again gays. it is becoming like a fashion as if society admire them when they are fags. look at Ellen Degeneres dresses like a man walks like a man. David Bowie married to our sister Iman but nobody knows his sexuality bi or multi god knows what? when i was newcomer i used to watch day time tv Jerry Springer when somebody said "i was born a man now i am a woman" it was shocking for me but now i am like oh yeah! get a life!
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 09:23

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msg Comment from: Janet [Visitor]
I agree with the church and the holly father hundred percent.

What will happen to TEDDY, KOKO and cé moi Senait? That means they won't be allowed to come to Addis and spoil some people? It means half of Kinigit will be forbiden their annual trip to Addis. Siyasazenu.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 09:30

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msg Comment from: jara [Visitor]
This papal needs to go he is the problem
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 09:31

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msg Comment from: Axum [Visitor]
It is immoral to discriminate people because of sexual orientation. Nobody chooses to be homosexual in this hostile world. All religion books are full of paradox and people who believe in being need to wake up and accept the world as it is.
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msg Comment from: Temuye [Visitor]
Kate you must be kidding. Your name does not look like Ethiopian name. So, if you do not know about Ethiopia, Ethiopia is a Christian country for the last 2000 years, and believes homosexuality is a sin. Then, who else can stand for the church except it is own servant, the papal is doing his job stand for Christ, stand for the Church, Stand for the country. Because it is against God who put hum on power to stand for him. I know you know the story there is a story in the Bible two cities are destroyed because of such sin. When papal stand for God. God will stand for Ethiopia and another issues not vice versa. Kate open your eyes.

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msg Comment from: Tenkir [Visitor]
LOL...I agree with our religious leaders on this one if it is really an issue at this point and time. Hope they continue to do more press on other important moral issues including corruption, hate, killing, ethnicity, etc. It would be priceless if the church leaders would denounce orgns like TPLF, OLF, ONLF. etc.
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msg Comment from: Tezebet [Visitor]
Omo, I like your post and you are right and you have a point…..

You said, “Confrontation will not help. Educating people may be more effective. Ethiopians are a conservative society and they can easily be persuaded by our revered elders and church leaders, of course, not by the abune, to be far from such a behaviour which is morally inappropriate and socially detrimental.”
That above point is summing it up.

Seleme

All we have to do is to teach our children what is right, wrong and forbidden and raise them with fear to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!

That is exactly I am doing with my baby girl. i want her to live in his Almighty God word. God give her a mind to think and to distinguish b/n right and wrong. i always tell let us not be judgmental to others behavior.

peace
don't we have other big "problems" then homosexuality starvation, war, racism, corruption and much, much more others. Is it realy the biggst issue we have to talk about on this higher level like that called "demo" "cratic"
good point!!!
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msg Comment from: Just a mixed Ethiopian [Visitor]
There are big issues the Church leaders should fix not how people are having sex!
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msg Comment from: Qorqoro [Visitor]
Temuye [Visitor)
Ethiopia is a Christian country for the last 2000 years,


Ethiopia never been a Christian country. That's ya Qesooch terat.
U can keep your 3000 fake history in gonder and makele museum not in my land.
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msg Comment from: Gennet [Visitor]
I am ashamed to read 98% of the comments here. What is this talk about we ethiopians are not like that; we as a Christian country shouldn't allow gay people bla bla. Again what a shame, homosexuality is just a private matter, period. What is this connecting the whole thing to rape etc. This is just hypocracy!! Deal first with your lies, hate, intolerance, agression, discrimination and I know it all moron attitude, ok! I should stop here. I am revolted about the 'church representatives' and their followers. What did these chruches do to help the poor, the sick and the homless? I believe in God, I am am Christian, but I definetly do not nedd such dumb, hypocrates!! Shame on you. By the way, a lot of gays I know are the ones who adhere to individual rights and respect the way of life of others.What is this constant talking of 'we Ethiopians are this and that', we are not better than others- for evidence see most of the comments to various subjects- it's kill them, hang them and I know better-.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 11:13

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msg Comment from: dedebite [Visitor]
may god bless my old Ethiopia guys our people do not know the name of homo sexual let alone to exercise it those emoral sub human animals should be hunged if there are in Ethiopia. they are not created that way,it is just their life style they choose to be that way.i agree with churchs since we are poor the west are going to put pressure on the dependat government by treataning to cut aid.even if they do that they should pass the law.the only thing they help us is to destroy our cultur and religion and impose their dirty culture on us so be it
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msg Comment from: Cubaya [Visitor]
I Guess all the Weyanes will be going to prison. They were doing it Wend Le Wend
When there were Chaka. This is a good call.
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msg Comment from: Dinar [Visitor]
Gennet :)):)):))

Patriarch Diabilos knew how the vast majority of the people will react. It is just very convenient that he had to raise this issue just when Teddy Afro is framed.

Ofcourse Patriarch Diabilos does not care one way or the other on the homosexual issue. He did not even care when 200 people were killed, 750 were maimed right infront of his palace. Do you think he would care about a non-issue? That dude is definitely playing his part in the TPLF propoganda machine.

These people have planned this for years.
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msg Comment from: solomon [Visitor]
please people kill if you see any gay in our beloved country it is againest our children in the future.please peole unite and eradicate this Devilish behavior .
God protecting Ethiopia.
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msg Comment from: farangi [Visitor]
being foreingner but knowing ethiopia fairly well i was not shocked to read about the new decre from the anti-christ,totally corrupt satan the ,by meles appointed, ethiopian patriarch. the only thing that got me angry is that my own catholic leaders apperntly got involved in this but then again they were probably africans and therefor it is understandably again because if there is one thing afircan are good in then it is denying the real problems and looking for an easy target to point their frustrations at and try to wheel this group into the ground insratd of using their brains and come up with some real solutions for the continents problems.
of course it is all the fault of the immoral white west. x the same white west from wich you africans have no problem to receive as many dollars and euros as possible so you do not have to get of your own arses and start to take some responsibility yousrselves.
yet is was happily suprised that at least half of the reactions on this forum were against discrimination of any kind and had brains enough to explain their opinion unlike the people who carry hate in their hart and only put down a few lines to express their not too intelligent agression.
in a country were few heteros are taking responsibility for there children,leave alone other peoples children, and were so many kids are dying on the street without hetero church and hetero governement care about them it is a crime for teh authorities to try to hunt poeple of a differnt love-orientation.
because thats all it is. x some peole like injera ,others hate it.
what if the injera haters would persicute the injera lovers. x anyone ever asked him or herself why they like or do not like a certain food,person,book or film.
just imagine other would want to imprison you for that. x would you consider that as intelligent.
for a hetero-society so full of rampant injustice it is criminal to go after gays.
and yes ,like it or not, it is about 3 % of the people so about 2 1/2 milion peole.
prisons would get rather crowded.
And more important - YES it will be your brother,cousin,uncle and definetly later one off your offspring ,child,grandchild and further. x because people who happen to be homo instead of hetero will continue to be born.
concerning religion. x jesus said clearly. x love one and another. x even your enemy. (wich homos are not.)jesus was put to death for being different and having different opinions.
do you think jesus and the partiarch would have gotten along. x most unlikely.
anyway,who is going to design your clothes.
ASSIP -_ ASSIP - ASSIP ETHIOPIA .
but as i said, the intelligent letters have given me hope. x lets hope they live in ethiopia and have not escaped the poverty and ignorance also the west is getting so tired of subsidising. (the people here are really tired of Africa.)
it is ok to be conservative but please with brains. x and as why people are homeo or hetero, why you like this woman and your friend likes another, it is the taste-bud in our brain and no science really knows where that comes from.
thanks god for diversity.



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msg Comment from: Qorqoro [Visitor]
Is anyone know that Minelik was Gay?
He was always dressing like a women. Ethiopia Orthodox church had a bad reputation in Ethiopia in the eyes of Ethiopian masses (majority people). Ethiopia's Orthodox Church owned a third of the fertile lands in the country. They should retern the land to the owners back. All Abysinian churches are fake.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 11:58

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msg Comment from: Temesgen [Visitor]
IT IS THE RIGHT DEMAND TO SAVE HUMAN KIND.
"Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality"

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!

MARRIAGE IS THE STRONGEST PILLAR OF THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE, IT IS ONLY BETWEEN A MAN & A WOMAN. THIS IS SACRED & HOLY.
A NOTEABLE SIN MENTIONED IN THE GREAT HOLY BIBLE IS THE ACT OF SODOMY.

ACCORDING TO THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE GENESIS IN THE BIBLICAL BOOK, SEXUAL DEVIATION PRACTISED BY THE PEOPLE OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH IS THE WORST SIN EVER MENTIONED TO FORCE GOD TO PUNISH THOSE PEOPLE WITH BALL OF FIRE FROM THE SKY(YE'ESSAT ALLELLO--IN AMHARIC).
NOW, SODOMY AND HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT ONLY A SIN, BUT IS A MOVE THAT ENDS HOMAN KIND FOR GOOD.
MAN TO MAN, WOMAN TO WOMAN MARRIAGE IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. IT ENDS HUMAN RACE VOLUNTARILY. HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG ORIENTATION/ WRONG SOCIAL AGITATION THAT NEEDS TO STOP.

WE ETHIOPIANS HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, WHY DO WE ADVOCATE FOR MORE & WORST KIND OF PROBLEMS?

ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS AND ISLAMS/MUSLIMS MUST UNITE AND FIGHT THESE WRONG TREND AT THIS STAGE. MAKE NO MISTAKE THINKING IT IS HUMAN RIGHT, IT IS AGAINST HUMAN KIND.

ETHIOPIAN CHURCHES AND MOSQUES ARE HIGHLY APPRECIATED! GOD BLESS THEM

THANK YOU ALL
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msg Comment from: An Ethiopian [Visitor]
I very much support the idea of the church leaders on homosexuality. Ethiopia is a blessed country. Ethiopians are God's people. This act should be removed from Ethiopia if it exists. Even if it doesn't, I support what they are trying to do because it can protect it from happening in the future.

I think people are exposed to this curse through the media (TV). So it is time to take action, that is what they are doing.

God Bless You All!
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msg Comment from: Gennet [Visitor]
Nolawi, Mesifn and Axum

thank you!! for your elaborations and having a different 'normal'stand on this issue.

By the way NOLAWI are you the one from bernos.org. If so, let me tell you, I love your blog. In your thoughts, there is no fussing about 'how great we are', you just state facts and that's so refreshing! Thank you and keep it up. I specially like the 'childhood memories' and the dilema between man and women:))


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msg Comment from: Gennet [Visitor]
Dinar,

yes you are right, we should ask ourselves , why this announcement? I can understand, how our people in the 'orthodox church' will react. They will see hell coming close, they will focuse on praying that the fire of hell will not come down on them. I visited recently Lalibela and I saw people living for the life after death, praying that their sins should be forgiven and do nothing to maintain their live on earth! They were so teriffied what God will punish them for whatsoever. And I am sure that God is forgiving, he wants us to master our lives, to help others, to love others and not hate. Representatives of Churches from whichever religion are for me just an institution like a dictatorial state. They are especially successful in a society where education level is almost zero. How sad.
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msg Comment from: GONDAR [Visitor]
I hate my ear and eye!!! Is it begin in our homeland? WOE lord mercy the grace.
The bottom line every one of us must learn how we are living the last minute and zero houre. I magine my dads'bule/ox he always looking for caw not another ox even microcopic bactria ofcourse they dont' have male and female but gamet looking for some in some case by carcture or nature some thing different. Male hen looking for female sheep, goat, etc How we human? the image of God? Well let say one man get married onother man so what do they do? MY brain disntigrated in to pices. the time of NOah and the time of Lot pased now you imoral societies you should back to your good attitude.
No word at all! Killer subject and topic!
Aferbilu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 12:43

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msg Comment from: jj [Visitor]
what is this Christian country? Ethiopia was never Christian country and never will be so keep this fake history to your selves
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msg Comment from: observer [Visitor]
I don't care what the TPLF appointed cadre patriarch has to say any thing about any thing.
He is not legitimate patriarch of Ethiopia as TPLF is not legitimate government of Ethiopia.
Homosexuality is not an issue for Ethiopians as it is completely foreign culture and a problem in western world.
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msg Comment from: Temuye [Visitor]
Qorqoro if you do not believe what i wrote you do not belong to Ethiopia like your name you are imported. Do not smear other people's name. If you are one of homosexual try to get spiritual assistant. He, or she will help you to come out of yourself, there are plenty people who healed spiritually for homosexual behavior. Prayer helps. Otherwise do not lesson dr. and Professor's who are homosexuals and try to tell the rest of the world it is normal behavior. When it is not, do not you think so? God created Adam and Eve, one man one woman. Yes, Ethiopia is rich in history rich in culture, rich in different tribes, rich in different languages. The only problem is the people of Ethiopia do not know how to use their riches properly. Yes, history says Ethiopia is the second Christian nation next from Armenia.
God Bless Ethiopia.
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msg Comment from: qunburrso [Visitor]
if etiopia is cristian land the guy issue it doesn,t concern us
thanks almighty they can deal their
issues with their abune diablos.
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msg Comment from: Dere [Visitor]
Why does the Ethiopian Orthodox Church worship an image of Jesus Christ which is taken from a painting of Cesare Borgia, a 15th century homosexual belonging to the Italian Royal family then? Many of us have stopped going to church just for that. Is it even necessary to worship an image of Jesus? (Exodus 20:4)
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msg Comment from: dello [Visitor]
Selam to all,
We all know being gay is immoral and unnatural. we already have had enough problems....please let us stand togeather and fight this stupidity.
God Bless Ethiopia
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msg Comment from: ababiya [Visitor]
When are we going to bring the good stuff like chaines and Japanese did other than gayism and other bad things to our country to their country?
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msg Comment from: Janet [Visitor]
Dinar,
You dam'n well know that this has nothing to do with killer Teddy. This ani gay proclamation was all so signed by different denominations including Vatican. Read Poe's proclamation of today. Unless you claim the Vatican Pope was also conspiring against Teddy. What paranoid fellow you must be. Our Pope (Ethiopian)is a well educated intelectual and can not be critisized by the likes of you. Be honest and say that you don't like him because he is from Tigrai. Hiding behind united Ethiopia I have never seen a tribalist dyhaydra like you guys. Go and curse, many of us have enough of your haterade and are supporting EPRDF, and the more you curse the more EPRDF gets support from every tribe including from the Amharas.

Qurqoro,

If Egypt is called a moslim country then Ethiopia also could be called a Christian country. The difference is we Ethiopians dont discriminate against the muslims while Egyptian Christians can not get a house rent, a job or hospital treatment unless they convert. You have to be glad to be a minority in Ethiopia.
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msg Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
Burn them alive! No second choice for gays!!

Some gay sympathizers in this blog try to convince us to be gay is as natural. But, it is not true. Even if it is true, NOT in the land of Ethiopia.

They could go to countries who allow gay marriage and get their ass fucked 24/7.

Well, after all that is what they want. Fuck them as hell and burn their ass!!





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msg Comment from: Janet [Visitor]
Yes we have to follow the decree of The Holliness Abune Paulos, The magnificent, and the other denominations including the Vatican Pope that homosexuality is bad period. No discussion about it, it is a holly verdict and gay activities should be curtailed. I know some of you Ethiopian gay bloggers wouldn't like it, but for you there is always Sanfransisco.
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msg Comment from: GORADE [Visitor]
PAWLOS.......KKKKK man teyekeh ahun sele wendagered,sent yemisera sera eyale."LAM BALWALEBET KUBET LEKEMA" yeluhal yehe new,arfeh whiskyhen teta,ante belo papas,maferia.
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msg Comment from: Jojo [Visitor]
Listen
From all the things that Ethiopia has to worry about these so called "religous Leaders" pick homosexuality, How sad who's business is it what they do on in privacy of their homes, This is ridcules. I don't agree on their life style but, that does not mean I empose my life style to them.
Ethiopia and this Religious Leaders should worry about the Human right issues and the hunger issues in Ethiopia not what Adults do in the privacy of their homes.
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msg Comment from: AGB [Visitor]
Who is the beautiful lady near Abune Paulos. Is she the first lady in the Orthodox church ?
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msg Comment from: teshome [Visitor]
"Ethiopian clerics seek constitutional ban on homosexuality"


Homosexuals are have been a victim of Nature and Society in our country.Therefore, I think it is a personal, social, and religious matter, but not a constitutional.
By the way, I have a question to those clerics to ask the law makers to change "Article 39". Happy New Year Everbody!

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msg Comment from: Wey Gud... [Visitor]
It is fundamental religious leaders of all religions that should be eliminated; Christian, Islam and Judaic. They all very intolerant. God created people who are not interesting in the opposite sex, why they be put in prison? One religion even say we should stone to death. No. Intolerant religious fandamentalists are best eliminated from the earth.
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msg Comment from: Dinar [Visitor]
Janet:

Well, sweety, the patriarch being from Tigray is not that much of a problem for me, personally. Although, using TPLF LOGIC (ethnically arguing) it does not make sense since Tigray is a minority and he should not be leading the majority.

My contention is his conduct since the beginning of his tenure as a Patriarch (for eg. putting words in the earlier Patriarch's mouth) has been nothing short of contemptible and HIGHLY suspect. He killed a monk in church. I mean people used to hide in church when earlier governments were prosecuting them, now a monk is killed in his own church. Is there any safety in Ethiopia unless one kow-tows the line of TPLF? Answer is NO, not even in the CHUCH! To top it all, Orthhodox Church is now declining and perhaps dying under his watch. The last Ethiopian statistics shows close to 7 million church goers are now lost.

Given all these facts, and the fact that he said NOTHING when 200 people were slaughtered just outside of his palace, one can only conclude that this person has very suspect purpose as a head of the church. If this offends you, then I can not help you, since realty can not be helped.
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msg Comment from: Gurmessa [Visitor]
Goraday all of a sudden you flipped You
are one of Meles's lover but now you are touchy. Meles=Paulos I wonder why? QQQQQQQQ.
Goraday you use KKKKKK with your message may be you do not know the meaning(KKK)=Ku kLex Klan=white power.I believe you are black instead use QQQ (qqq)or use the Tigrna or Geez or Amharic letter.
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msg Comment from: bdeho [Visitor]
All TPLF weyane are gays I don't think meles will take it .
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msg Comment from: Ethiobizman [Visitor]
We used to have our own religon and culture but now becuse of some money hungry Ethiopians we are adopting western culture. There is a lot of good thing that we can learn from the west but we chose to learn only the bad one.
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msg Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
Hi Gorade,

Why you so disappointed? Are you gay??

Hmm...If so, I could get you someone who can take care of you.

Ass whole!!

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msg Comment from: Shewa [Visitor]
Hypcrite Abune and his followers, How about baning "shermutena"?
As far as I know it is quite legal to open a bordelo right next to the church and spread STD!

Hunger, disease,illitracy, extreeme poverty is the burning real issue right now solve those problems affecting our day to day life not imaginary threat!
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msg Comment from: Shewa [Visitor]
AGB [Visitor]
Who is the beautiful lady near Abune Paulos. Is she the first lady in the Orthodox church ?

That is someone he wish to have as mistress.It is quite ok to have a mistress in the Fake Church. Some priests even practice homosexuality in the down low.
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msg Comment from: Peace [Visitor]
Even though i strongly support the ban should be implemeted, we cann't hate the people. We hate the deeds n the works they do. It is, i think what all religion's are after. they are after the action.!!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 18:17

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msg Comment from: Amiru [Visitor]
I have never heard about gay as an issue or exists in Ethiopia, first time raised by Abune (isn’t it a surprise!).
Ethiopia presumably a secular country that Religion and Gov’t are separated. However, the Abune prefers snooping in to politics? Requesting the parliaments a ban in the constitution? Isn’t a revelation of his being cadre of tplf.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 18:36

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msg Comment from: Farah Ali Jama [Visitor]
According to the existing Universal Divine System of Morals, Ethics and Laws, homosexuality is a colossal sin discourage by all cultured societies and religions since it is--a source of self-degradation and self-hate, Paedophilia and child prostitution, a cause of low marriage and a violator of the sanctity of marriage, a root cause of societal decadence, and a huge component of depopulation of Mankind.

Therefore, no sane and God fearing human being will condone search an evil life style. And even the lowly animals knows better and sticks to their natural way of creation of masculinity and femininity, abides by it, and lives by it happily.

As a result, I fully support the just and Godly cause of the Church in eradicating this vice anywhere in the world, which no religion as well as their faithful followers on this earth can tolerate the perpetuation of this dreadful sin and transgression.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 19:14

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msg Comment from: whatzfk [Visitor]
first of all let me greet 'westernized' ethiopians with the middle finger! yes you may have it as much as you want.
Thank God we dont have such problem as homosexuality in our beautiful country, because we dont desire or need homosexuality in ethiopia, if you feel like becoming a homo, thats a good reason to ask the american embassy for an assylum. Because you will not be comfortable living as a homo in ethiopia as you will be most undesirable unfavourable piece of garbage. So take my advice and ask for asylum, or walk, or swim to europe and the states.
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msg Comment from: GORADE [Visitor]
gurmessa...........is that all u know about kkkkk, i didn't put three k i put 5of them,that it shows am loughing,ok how on earth u related my kkkkk s to kkk. a little knowledge is dengerous,don't divert what i said or try to understand the topic first,then comment.if u r gay or fag. this is not the way to defend ur self,did u get it?
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 21:16

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msg Comment from: Abba Biyya [Visitor]
Iam some who finally freed myself from any religious doctrines but I seriously oppose homosexualism.

In this regard it's not after all the business of religious leaders alone to talk about the sexuality of individuals.

Homosexauls should be isolated from normal society and should not approach especially children. In the past we never had this kind of problem. I believe this disease comes from america or europe as did the AIDS virus.

It is a medical condition which should be treated in psychitric hopspitals and affected patients should not be allowed to leave hospital until full recovery.
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msg Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
This is not a good news for OLF and SHABIYA as we all know they share a single bed...soon a single grave.
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msg Comment from: Tesfa [Visitor]
Gennet, Yo!

You sound pretty naive, idealistic, intolerant and, to some extent, ignorant. The world which is in your fantasy is a fantasy, it doesn't exist. We are living in a wild, a very wild world. Please stop defending those who don't deserve it. May be Homosexuality itself is not a sin, but the practice is very sinful. If you are a normal (straight) woman, you can't have such friends. For many reasons, it is just impossible, believe me. I advise you to immediately cease your friendship with them for your own sake, for the sake of your family. They might appear nice and friendly, but they do things to you that you would vomit and go nuts if I tell you right here. Don't share rooms with them, specially during night time. Even the Pentagon and some other serious offices across the US and Europe have a special computer software to track all the activities of gay people. They do pretty weired and alien type of things to themselves, to straight people in particular. Stay away from them, and never make similar spontaneous comments defending such groups before making a serious research. This is a very serious matter. If you are one of them, please go look for spiritual help immediately. One more thing, there is nothing wrong in being a patriotic Ethiopian!
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msg Comment from: Seleme [Visitor]


Jordan,

if you dont mind, if you get one baby boy "inborn gay" what you will do?

I hope you will not do that for what youve said "burn them alive". . . i hope so. . .



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msg Comment from: GORADE [Visitor]
jordan........i am not disappointed at all,it looks like u r,u r trying to set me up to some one who fu...gays,my question is how do u come to know this guy,"keahya yewalech gider fess temera temetalech" ezyaw tegmama balege yeset lij.
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msg Comment from: OROMIAA KID [Visitor]
:)) Now watch the Amaaraa start to have Gay rights Kiiniijiit group :>> MashAllah II am Muslim we don't have this issue. It must be in Amaaraa and Tigree community since they are the only followers of Ortodox religion.
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msg Comment from: Free Ethiopia! [Visitor]
farangi
farangi
farangi

Fags like you bring homosexuality to Ethiopia. You are another fag from the west! Get out of there before you infect some more.
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msg Comment from: DON [Visitor]
I don't like these Woyane Priests but I support this law. HOMOSEXUALS should be put alone on an island and shot up to Mars or another planet.
Ethiopian Kid, shut your ignorant azz up. Where the heck did you get the fact that they did not choose their orientation, no science has proven that homosexuality is a naturally occurring act so stop being ignorant and use your vacuum brain for something else.
It is a perversion that was brought on by the Greeks, then Romans and some other white people and now spreading to black people.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 23:52

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msg Comment from: dude [Visitor]
girum new betam tigelalachihu

sexual orientation is private its like having a favorite sexual position...and you ethiopians of all people who claim to be christian should be tolerant thats the whole point of jesus

but really is this really important?
Beware our main problem is lack of justice, accountability, transparency, democracy etc please please please keep your eyes on the ball and do not fall for these provocative distractions power to the people peacefully
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 23:57

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msg Comment from: kik wot [Visitor]
Homos have been around for thousand of years. They just didn't appear from some planet in the past 20 years. Emperor Haile-Selassie was a little HOMO guy. He had some young and handsome soliders that he was smacking around at night. You better watch it medere skinny habesha men in America. If you end up in jail - some tattoed big racist Texan man will bend you over and lift you like a school bag from your bonny ass. you better not commit a crime.
PermalinkPermalink 12/23/08 @ 23:59

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msg Comment from: kik wot [Visitor]
Homos are white, black, asian, Arab, priest, latino, catholic, Islam, Hindu, Buddist and Ethiopian too. I don't know why God created them?
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 00:38

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msg Comment from: Melelo [Visitor]
Mesfin, Axum, Gennet and Nolawi,

U all have been brainwashed by this westerners. Just think about it. Why do you think u don't hear about Homos in Ethiopia? Cuz people don't CHOOSE to live this lifestyle called Homosexuality.

There may be 100 fags in Addis but this story is not worthy of talking.

This perverts are despicable. Have a morale and speak against Sodomites.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 00:46

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msg Comment from: Tewodros [Visitor]
sira fet melekuse kobun kedo yisefal.
It should not be your damn business at
all.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 01:00

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msg Comment from: Tewodros [Visitor]
Ethiopians are not any different. I know
numerous Ethiopian gays.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 01:03

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msg Comment from: Dereje [Visitor]
US and Ethiopia are not the same, the perception that its a lifestyle has more weight in Ethiopia.anything against homosexuality in Ethiopia is understandable if not acceptable.people across the country are lobbying to have a constitutional amendment on the defination of marriage. thats because there is a scale to level of tolerance towards anything.i don't mean to generalize but the tolerance level of the People of Ethiopia is very low towards homosexuality.eventhough i don't like the fact that religion is playing a role in Ethiopian laws in this instance most Ethiopians are behind the religious organizations.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 02:31

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msg Comment from: ditta [Visitor]
LOL
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 02:42

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msg Comment from: God pls. destroy woyane [Visitor]
Janet the pretender (in a closet),
Anything between two consenting adults is not government’s business. gebito budawa,
I hate woyanes with a passion. Do I have a right to kill you just because I despise you? I don’t think so. The same should apply to you too. Just because you hate anything non-tigre, it doesn’t mean you have to kill or harass.

If your hypocrite Tegaday Paulos, has a tiny bit moral, he would have cried day and night by the killing of innocent Ethiopians by his Mafioso banda group.

P.S. homosexuality is a non issue, in current Ethiopia. I doubt if the Majority of Ethiopians even heard of it. So woyanewoch don’t try to fool us. There are other priorities and big issues facing our people. Among them the lack of food, shelter, medical care, clothing, individual rights and so on. Focus on that.

So woyanewoch with your leader Tagadaly Abune, Meles-melataw , let the Great Satan himself lead you to his dungeon – the hell – and burn you there and turn you into ashes.

PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:24

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msg Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
OROMIAA KID [Visitor]

In the middle east guys sleep with guys and prey on little homless kids and rape them because Islam does not allow them to date till marriage...it is quite norm there...the palestinine boys prostitute on the streets of Tel Aviv bending over for the westerns...Little kids get kidnapped, molested, raped and killed in Saudi, and Kuwait quite often...

Homosexuality is very common in the region and with the people who gave you your faith...regardless of what your reliogn states on gays.

In Tigray and Amhara regions, Homosexuals won't make it through a night once they are exposed.

You need to get your facts right.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:41

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msg Comment from: Nurhusien [Visitor]
very sad to hear from so called clerk words like "stupid like animals"...what a religion or reference claim animals as stupid?? does he know what he spoken. are not animals living communities like human beings who have the right to share the land??

can any body have idea on it.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:46

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msg Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
farangi [Visitor]

Your comment was very gay and full of hatred.

At the end you sounded like you are saying you are Ashamed African disguised as foriegner and gay...
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:46

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msg Comment from: tola [Visitor]
for those of you that belive homosexuality = against humans race. Which is design to stop human race from circulations...how about using condom should that also be banned and if so how will you get protected againest hiv and other disseses...how abt abortion...isn't that also another thing...come on ppl let's be realistic...there is nothing wrong with homosexuality
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:48

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msg Comment from: jo [Visitor]
we all agree in the eshue let us live personal eshue with person and argue comman eshue please behave as amathure person donot say very wrong and unhuman words for the people like leaders i am not thier friends but it is not good manner. let tray to help those people to buled up thier social and psycological problem if some one knows them i agree with omo visters
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 10:50

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msg Comment from: ayuu [Visitor]
We are not forfeiting anything at all. Keeping Church and Government separate is a way of defending our Civil Rights.The Bible approves of slavery, but Civil Rights movements helped abolish it. If a Church's constitution does not approve of same sex marriage, a Nation's Constitution should, or we should work towards achieving the latter. Faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a Church do certainly influence the Church goers, but, on the other hand, Governments should protect the rights or all Citizens. Those Church leaders asked the Government to modify the Constitution, well, can that legally be done only upon a request, even if made by prominent people in the society? I do not know what the Ethiopian Constitutional Law says, but there should be some kind of vote to be done, either at Parliament level or else, and, yet, Church and State should stay separate, that is where we should stay focused.Another thing, Ethiopian law does not criminalize homosexuality, but same gender sex, and yet, it is probably only in East Africa that two people of the same gender can walk hand on hand without risking of rising eye brows, an easy way to blend in ;)Popes, pastors and priests are doing their jobs, let's make sure Governments do theirs. Then, and only then, will be a time when EVERYONE ( including religious leaders...specially religious leaders :) ) will be held accountable for what they say and do.Peace.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 12:08

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msg Comment from: Demelash [Visitor]
Immortalities got to GO Every Where in the WORLD!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 14:09

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msg Comment from: dumb, stupid like animals,=Abune Paolos [Visitor]
Abune Paolos's house is not clean and he is crying for the constitution, instead of preaching the Bible. Interesting!!!!!!!!!!! The 21st century So Called religious leaders basic characterisitics: Insulting,Killing...their oponents
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 14:34

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msg Comment from: Gennet [Visitor]
Tesfa,

you are so funny and ridiculous:) Please do not worry about my well being:) Thank you very much for your concern, I can assure you I can manage.
p.s.: no complaints about being patritotic as long as it doesn't deal with deliberate, and dumb insults against others, ok!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 15:14

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msg Comment from: Fish [Visitor]
Ever heard of separation of Church and state anyone?

Religious leaders have no business in governance.

Immoral? That's a matter of belief and opinion

I think an individual has the right to any lifestyle as long as it is legal.

It is definitely unconstitutional.

Personally, It don't bother me man...I can name at least 10 more pressing issues in Ethiopia...
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 17:42

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msg Comment from: amazed [Visitor]
So now this is the biggest issue that Ethiopia should concern herself with? I second the person who made references to fighting more important and prevelant issues as rape and prostitution. Sera fetoch.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 18:56

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msg Comment from: AAB [Visitor]
While they are at it why wouldn't they ban homosexual animals (yes there are some) and other religions or anyone who doesn't agree with them. This is sad. Wake up; learn; educate yourself; ask yourself what morality really is (hint: it has nothing to do with religion).

BTW: it makes me so sad that some people can't even right a full sentence and they act like they know it all and decide for others.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 19:09

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msg Comment from: Homo for sure [Visitor]
Here we see a clear depiction of Abeshe epistemology; almost 90% of the comments reflect a mount deficiency and understanding of the essence of justices, quality, and liberty. Let alone the importance of constancy in the rule of law which is set to protect every individual in that land. There is a law, which supposed to be secular and supposed to stand for justices, equality and liberty. That is what constitutes real democracy. If the rule of law is degraded by clergies, popes, and Ayatollahs the majority of the religious group dominates the minority and enforces their belief and life style up on the minority. That is what we call hegemony. But for Abeshe people to finish their evolution and finally understand the principle of justices, equality, and liberty it will take couple of century. You know what, there are some Abesh still think their ethnic group is superior than their counter parts.

PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 19:53

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msg Comment from: abadagnew [Visitor]
This is what you call scratching where you are not itching. We should be worried about feeding our starving population rather than going to the privacy of peoples sexual tendency. Disease,egnorance,malnutriton is some of the issues the clergy, which ever diomination, should be working on for a better society. That picture of Abuna Paulos with Beyonce says it all, OUT OF TOUCH.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 21:43

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msg Comment from: Koko [Visitor]
Finally, a perfect soloution to the Eritrean dilemma. For the last ten years claiming to be an Eritrean was the hard currency of choice for asylum seekers. Now, the Abuna Diablos and his concoubine Beyounce have come with a novel idea and a win win situation.

Then Ethiopian homos and wanna be homos are going to fill the refugee centers as never before. The tragedy in these kind of manufactured news is easily bought by the diaspora, and we are becoming victims of the Tribal Juntas evil political games.

This weekly manufactured news is the brain child of the Tribal Junta's propaganda Tsar, Bereket Simon and his minstry. It is a disinformation and misinformation campain to distract and disorient the public.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 22:08

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msg Comment from: Wedi Adi [Visitor]
There are lots of hoosexual eritreans in the bay area. I guess that's one reason Eris love Frisco. My great granpa in Adua used to tell me that when he was a kid his father told him to stay away from the "Hamasen" because they were sodomite.
I even ran into an Eri stripper chic and she told me she was a dyk.No shame, she was all blaze about it.
Watch-out yarada lij. Abesha naw bileh atitegaw Assmarinown. Buhala gud indathon.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 22:44

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msg Comment from: 80% of Ethiopians are not Educated [Visitor]
Damn most of you please read google about homo sexuality its a genetic issue a desire for love just as straight people most of you here from what i read are a closet gay's so afraid of homosexuality for what i don't know. It dose not bother me . Some of you are talking hard on here, saying kill them, burn them, what is wrong with you guys, i am sure you are not college grads? clearly the way you are thinking is very shallow and ignorant. Also learn how to spell. My neighbor is gay she is the nicest person i have ever met, she is highly educated responsible, rich, beautiful,women so you want to kill her too? i my self will shot you if i could if you commit such act!

2. For those of you who thinks gay's are rapist you are mistaken because straight people do the same shit dose that make all of them rapist? the answer is no see its not that hard.

3. For those of you who are screaming gay's are going to hell! what the F**K is hell can you explain it to me you act like you have been there, it dose not exist get your brains out of your butts.

4. For those of you who dose not know what Homo means here we go learn its posted below lol.

homosexual |ˌhōməˈsek sh oōəl|
adjective
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.
• involving or characterized by sexual attraction between people of the same sex : homosexual desire.
noun
a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.
DERIVATIVES
homosexuality |-ˌsek sh oōˈalitē| noun
homosexually adverb
ORIGIN late 19th cent.: from homo- ‘same’ + sexual .
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And i am Heterosexuals i love it and i love gays as much as Heterosexuals much love to all Ethiopians including GAY Ethiopians you are our brother's and sisters.
PermalinkPermalink 12/24/08 @ 23:54

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msg Comment from: Tewodros [Visitor]
Hi everyone,

Just to let everyone know, there are
numerous proud gay ethiopians. Infact
they were protesting wearing Ethiopian
flags. I was very fortunate to see these
courageous gay Ethiopians rallying all
over califonia. These guys are brave!!!
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 02:16

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msg Comment from: Wedi Adi [Visitor]
Arabs are BIG time faggs. The Berbers of North Africa didn't accept Islam easily because they despised Arabs for their homosexual tendencies. The Afghans are faggots too. Google it if you don't believe me.
The only non homo people on Earth are Jamaicans and my blessed Ethiopian people.
Boom bye bye on a batti boy head, Rasta don't promote no nasty man bizness them haffi DEAD!
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 10:04

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msg Comment from: DZ Lij [Visitor]
hate mongering politics of the diaspora and the tribalism of woyane are as imoral as homosexuality.
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 10:17

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msg Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Lady Tchenawite ,you're really an unshamed guy ,are you kidding ,I wonder what other word matches than gayman peoples like who write childish commentaries under woman identity .As said our dear elders "..Bilutchen balsemash gebeya balwotash..".
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 10:51

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msg Comment from: jane [Visitor]
I have a big respect for our church leader to call the parlimant to fouse on this bad example to our young man.The government should eleminate this sick faggets form ethiopia. we don't need this animal behaver for orthodx followers.The socity must work hard with the government to teach his young kids about it.
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 11:14

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msg Comment from: Guiguy [Visitor]
There's no stupidity in any animals, cause they have their own rights. The behaviour of men when the Bible was wretten and our Millenium is complittly different. With the freedom of expression & high living standard came some a new kind of sexual practices. So, immoral or not, homsexuality is a rampant movement everywhere in the world.
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 14:18

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msg Comment from: kinfe [Visitor]
please we don't need like this (atseyafi)sadom and gamorra that is no our culture from our grand grand father&mother there is no like where we get this culture don't do it other wise (kitun be gale biret metibesi )
PermalinkPermalink 12/25/08 @ 15:36

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msg Comment from: dedebite [Visitor]
YOU DIRTY PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THAT IF ONLY IF MY ETHIOPIA IS LEAD BY ANY BODY BUT HABASHA TIGERAWAYE NO TIGRAWAYE WILL RESPECT HIM CAUSE NO BODY IS INTAYETELD TO RULE EXCEPT MY PURE HABASHA PERIOD MATEB YELELEWE HODAME HULA.MY PEOPLE PLEASE HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMASS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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msg Comment from: dawit [Visitor]
hey
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msg Comment from: Amara [Visitor]
TEDDY,

Dont you have anything to say except a barrage of insults. I dare you to write one opinion without insults. I don't think you can because your head is full of curses. You are a typical Amara. Do they teach you that when you were kids? What an upbringing. From your postings it is hard to imagine such people exists, people like you are a disgrace to his country and to his ethnic.
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msg Comment from: Zeab [Visitor]
I fear that homosexuality could be a tendency. And as we see more females evolved, I doubt that in many females it could be a result of penus envy.
PermalinkPermalink 12/26/08 @ 19:37

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msg Comment from: sara [Visitor]
It is just embaressing to reedS all the comments about homosecsuality. What is wrong with us ethiopian pepele we should know that we re not different fron the rest of the world ,we should not warry about this nonsense we should worry about hunger and desise so mony of our are suffering and daying every second , guyeasem shoudnät be a problem.
PermalinkPermalink 12/27/08 @ 11:58

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msg Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
Amara ,what an amhara insulting amhara peoples ?Why don't you guy reveal your true identity as one of these TPLF thugs intruders jamming this website .All you guys ,the TPLF thugs ,are the main threats for the unity and sovereignty of unity . LONG LIVE THE TRUE ETHIOPIANS !!!!
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msg Comment from: Dawit N [Visitor]
All of this is simple. Look at wealthy, advanced, progressive, educated, and well-adjusted countries which are open to sex and sexuality--Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, etc. They have the lowest HIV/AIDS rate; women give birth in their 30s--when mature and better prepared to raise a child. Look at conservative, religious, oppressive countries which consider sex and sexuality to be more of a shame than something natural--and you get high HIV rate, teenage pregnancy, which leads to poverty and so on--many African, Arab, Asian, and Latin American countries.
Ethiopians are of the Judeo-Christian background. We look at sex like it's bad unless it is about pro-creation. Well, where has that gotten us so far compared to, say, the Scandinavian? But falling in love with the same gender does not mean you're less than or "satanic". If any of you really knew gay people, you wouldn't have this opinion. You sound like Americans and Europeans used to be like a hundred years ago. Let's now move to discuss real issues. Like the fact that there are 4 million orphans in our beloved country. We face over 90% deforrestion BECAUSE OF population pressure, which leads to soil erosion, which leads to salinzation of the land, which leads to drought, flooding, and so on. Let's discuss solutions, not insults and talking about what people do in their bedrooms. It's sick people who abuse children, and it has nothing to do with your sexuality.
PermalinkPermalink 12/27/08 @ 16:25

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msg Comment from: General Wuchu [Visitor]
I did not know that there are many ethiopian Homos, whose existance is serious enough to warrant a call for parliament to take an immediate action. Well that must add one more historical fact to ethiopian history such as "the country with the most homosexuals in Africa."
PermalinkPermalink 12/27/08 @ 23:21

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msg Comment from: dedebit00 [Visitor]
Wedi Adi [Visitor],
Now if all "hamaseini" Eritreans are Homosexual, all Arabs, all Afghans, and the entire world is Homosexual except, People like you from "The great Tigray nation" and maybe “a few Jamaican” then tell me what that makes you?
By the way, where did you run into that stripper? I am assuming it’s in a stripper club.
Tell me.Do bigots and hypocrites like Wadi Adi and the Abune Paulos of Orthodox Church sitting next to another stripper with their “holier than thou" attitude are morally better, religiously superior, and personally closer to God than other people who differ from them? I let you all be the judge!

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msg Comment from: tazabi [Visitor]
:>First and most, The Ethiopian Orthodox Church must clean up it's mess before it works for the ban. There are many gay young monks who practice homosexuality. Ethiopians in Arligton VA watch out! One has been spotted.
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msg Comment from: Tes [Visitor]
Very sad, How ignorant one can be to think that homosexuality is unnatural? First of all, those of you who think so, can you explain what is natural or not !? and natural for whom?
Most of the people who are contributing here (of course Paulos and the idiot local NGO head )are driven by hatrade rather than reason. Most of you who are against homosexuals have no (good)reason or eveidence for your statements except just hatrade agains people who differnt from you. please, before you open your mouth and tell us how uncivilizszed you are, try to understand the (biological, social and psychological)explanation for homosexuality. First of all, why should some body's sexual orientation be so threatning to you!? Have you ever opened your eyes and seen the fact that most of the clergies around the world are homosexuals (as some indicated above)? (I know this is too much for you to even imagine). I know, by this time you are thinking that I am gay because I speak for them, but the truth of the matter is that we all the victim of the bloody society we live in, so we are programed to thing the way we do since our childwhod, thefore, I refrain from blaming you. However, just try....try to think that homosexuality or other uncommon behaviours are as old as Jesus Christ himself, if not older. The society has nothing to lose because some people are gay, after all, why do you care about who sleeps with whom?
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