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'Lucy's baby' found in Ethiopia

09/20/06

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'Lucy's baby' found in Ethiopia

nazret.com is proud to name Dr. Zeresenay Alemseged as Person of The Week for his discovery of "Lucy's baby".

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'Lucy's baby' found in Ethiopia

The 3.3-million-year-old fossilised remains of a human-like child have been unearthed in Ethiopia's Dikika region.

The female Australopithecus afarensis bones are from the same species as an adult skeleton found in 1974 which was nicknamed "Lucy".

Scientists are thrilled with the find, reported in the journal Nature.

They believe the near-complete remains offer a remarkable opportunity to study growth and development in an important extinct human ancestor.

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Ethiopia's pride in 'Lucy' find
By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent, BBC News, Addis Ababa

A tropical storm beats against the national museum in Addis Ababa. The violent thunder and lashing rain contrasts with the serene activity within.
Zeresenay Alemseged and the skull of Lucy's baby

Zeresenay Alemseged and the skull of "Lucy's baby"

Inside a solitary figure is cleaning up a 3.3-million-year-old skull.

Dr Zeresenay Alemseged has spent five years removing sandstone, grain by grain, from his precious find.

Illuminated by a single focussed beam of light, this is intricate, delicate work: one mistake and crucial scientific detail could be lost forever.

Alemseged showed me that what has emerged are the delicate features of a creature that was part ape and part human.

"What you have here is the backbone and the thoracic and all the ribs, the shoulder blades the collar bones. But in addition, what you have here is a compete face and the sandstone impression of the brain of a 3.3-million-year-old infant."

Early sound

Six years ago Alemseged set off toward the north-eastern deserts of Ethiopia. Working in the blistering heat, his team discovered what he thought was the skull of a creature that was one of the first apes to have walked on two feet.

Unable to contain his excitement, the scientist called his friend Tefera Ghedamu.


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"He said I think I got it! And he knew exactly what he'd got. He's a very cautious person, a very shy person - but then he knew and told himself, ' this is the bone'," Ghedamu recalls.

Alemseged had found the most complete skeleton to date of a species called Australopithecus afarensis , thought to be an important pre-cursor to the first true humans.

Not only was it in a fantastic state of preservation but the specimen was that of an infant. This combination makes the find a gold mine for those studying human evolution.

It will now be available for other specialists to study; but already Alemseged has made a number of startling discoveries. Although the baby afarensis toddled on two feet like a human child, it also had many important ape-like features.

"The shoulder blades are very gorilla-like and it may ignite old questions about whether afarensis could climb trees or not. But what was really exciting was to find the tongue bone. We will, based on this bone, be able to understand what the voice box was like and about the kind of sound this creature made," he explains.

Initial thoughts suggest the bone is ape-like and that the creature probably sounded like a chimp.

'On the cusp'

What really excites Alemseged, however, is his study of the ape-girl's brain.

He believes it is still developing. Slow and gradual development in an extended childhood is a uniquely human feature - probably to enable our higher functions to fully develop.

Alemseged is the first Ethiopian team leader to make such a find

So, according to Alemseged, this infant and her like may have been the first to show real human-like characteristics

"It's the earliest girl ever found with a mix of features that are ape-like and human-like at the same time, and this puts her in a special position to play a pivotal role. She is on the cusp of humanity," he says.

The creature is the latest of many recent fossil finds important to the understanding of human evolution - the most famous of which was the first Australopithecus afarensis specimen - and adult nicknamed "Lucy" - in 1974.

It has prompted the Ethiopia's culture minister, Mahmud Dirr Gade, to invite more scientists to come to the African nation to help unearth humankind's origins.

"We welcome researchers to delve into the secrets and mystery of the creation of man in Ethiopia; the 'home of humanity'," he tells me.

Home grown

Zeresenay Alemseged is the first Ethiopian to lead a research team that has made such an important discovery.

He is a bright young scientist who has studied in the US and Europe and is currently attached to the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.

Human anthropology is a cut-throat field, even for those who have established themselves and have the backing of big funding bodies.

So, according to Tefera Ghedamu, it is especially remarkable that an outsider like Alemseged has worked his way up and to win the respect of the scientific community - and the pride of his nation.

"From my angle, from an ordinary Ethiopian's point of view, they think it is quite a heritage. They are proud that the discovery has been made in Ethiopia and they are proud that it's been made by one of their own," he says.

Story from BBC NEWS:

BBC News

Published: 2006/09/20 17:05:38 GMT

About Scientist Zeresenay Alemseged
Born 4 June 1969 in Axum, Ethiopia
BSc. in Geology (AAU 1987-1990)
1993-1994 M.Sc. in paleontology from the University of Montpellier II and Paris VI, France.
1995-1998 Ph.D. in paleoanthropology and paleoenvironment from the University of Paris VI and the Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle et Paris VI.
Source: MPG.de

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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]
God bless you Zeru!

Ra
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 16:28

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msg Comment from: selememaster [Visitor]
Zeresenai ethiopia has few people like you and we are proud of you.
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msg Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Member]
Ahh,

Baby-Satenaw is finally borne!

Next, he will learn how to walk and how to throw stones.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 16:52

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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
Oh man! Another day, another skull. Like I said before, I think it’s time someone found something useful to our people in our land instead of dead skull galore. As it is we have got enough dead skulls at the Menelik Place to last us a lifetime.

Cheers,

-Gundan
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 16:58

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msg Comment from: sbhat [Visitor]
Good job !
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:06

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msg Comment from: Alive [Visitor]
what has the discovery of the the so called lucy bone brought good thing for the suffering the the present poor people? what would we expect now? are you guys expecting
this an aple like litle baby from millions years a go to save us? why are we ethiopians stop living in our past? Stop it,
work hard and make life better for us and others in ur country.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:13

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msg Comment from: kolotermari [Visitor]
Yirgacheff, lol...this is a huge discovery, Its just funny...Among all this horrible stories we hear about ethiopia, some good always seems to Unearth itself...Nice Job Doc...
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:46

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msg Comment from: kolotermari [Visitor]
Ahhh i was going to drop a bomb on some idiots here, but they dont even deserve that...
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:47

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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
Mr Zeresenay Alemseged, the bone collector,

If you want to be a hero, go unearth something of-use! Not a dead body! What a waste of time!

My advice to you is, Get a real job! Get it soon, as you wasted so much of your time collecting corpses!
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:55

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msg Comment from: mess [Visitor]
Surprisingly a litrate woyane is finding something. It was Amharas before around the university now tigrians. what a mess.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 17:59

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msg Comment from: Hagos [Visitor]
Wow! what a great find thanks zeru blessed be your soul keep digging. The other who comment negetive is understandable they are too samll brain to understand such a magnitude of sceintfic gian so let them keep hatemongering. They only think about thier raw meat do not want to hear the invention of cooking pan.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 18:04

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msg Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
Ethiopia is digging for dead peopls skull. While other countries are digging for oil. That's why we have been poor & we always will be.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 18:13

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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
“…thanks zeru blessed be your soul keep digging….”….Hagos


Yeah, keep digging Dr. Zeru. Who knows in a couple of hundred years you may even run into the backward looking fossilized dinosaur from the Jurassic period, Hagos.


Cheers,

-Gundan
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 18:21

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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
gundan if you are outsmarted by dead skull and become your leader what does this make you.no skull.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 18:23

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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
thank you zeru for leading the way.people like you are the pride of our country.you are a clasical example of a practical diaspora is more productive than the leba and vocal one.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 18:27

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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
eclad you dig what you have not what you want .very immature thinking'
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Gundan

My friend the majestic “terrible lizard” ruled this planet for over 160 millions years and Dr Zeresenay doesn’t have to dig for 200 years to find them.
He can simply get on the next chopper to the majestic valley of the Nile River and Mother Nature will have all of them dug out for him if they are there. Do you know what part of Africa was a suitable habitat for the Dinosaurs?

What is the matter with you anyway? You are still getting over the sight of Lucy and you seem to have your brains between your legs.
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msg Comment from: DB [Visitor]
Go look for the dad. It is a great discovery but, are we that desperate to find the evelotion of humankind?
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msg Comment from: Joker (*_*) [Visitor]
Db lol go 'look for the dad' hahahahaha

why are this fossils being found in ethiopia? not that its bad anything but i dont know.... something doesnt sound right, something is fishy.

it would be nice to identify where melese came from, his ancestors were probably a breed of demons and apes, a dilution of the two bore is kind(tyrant and big headed) of people.

Great news for all!!!!

cheers


GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA
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msg Comment from: elcad [Visitor]
gudu gana (gudeh yeflana)

You r a mouth piece for your masters.Before you open your stinky mouth take a little time to absorb what others trying to say.Diging for an old skull since 1973 didn't take us no where. If we have to dig, Ethiopia has a lot of potencial natural resources to dig for.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 19:10

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msg Comment from: Free [Visitor]

Germogn Limot!

Gundan and Satenaw

What is wrong with studying evolutionary anthropology? Are u guys saying that everything else excluding politics/Engineering/health sci/business and few others are useless or have no importance or are waste of money, energy, time..... Or are u saying that anything that does not interest u is not worth of studying? Understanding nature is the most important thing to make the best out of this world. the findings of this scientists might have no greater importance for this generation, however in the future it might be as important as quantum physics. Like the process of evolution itself, achievement in science requires understanding many tiny important details and we have to preserve, respect and credited every singel findings of those individuals who are working day and night. It is NOT like braging on Nazret.com. Beside civility starts with respecting others work and interest OR we all are hypocrites!!!




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msg Comment from: GurereB [Visitor]
Great work Dr Zeresenay Alemseged. People like you are actually doing well for the people of Ethiopia instead of sitting and obsessing about who is ruling Ethiopia. Your work again shows that Emama Ethiopia is the cradle of humanity and civilization. Your kind of work and findings always make my day. Days like today remind me of why I should be proud to be an Ethiopian. No matter how poor our country is, she still holds a high place in a great world stage. Keep up the good work, Doc. Those of you, Neanderthals, who mixed this wonderful news with politics, please know when to stop and enjoy the moment and remember our land. There is always tomorrow to go back to our insulting the ruling party mode.
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msg Comment from: Free [Visitor]
GurereB,

Thank You!





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msg Comment from: RAS ASHU DENVER [Visitor]
DEAR YIRGACHEFFE,
CONGRAGULATION, YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF MAJIC. IT HARD TO BELIVE THAT THE BABY BOY SATENAW IS BORN JUST LIKE U'VE SAID.NOW NO MORE SATENAW HIS NICK NAME IS 'SELAM'.ICANT WAIT TO SEE HIM HERE IN THE U.S. NEXT TO HIS MUSCULAR GIANT MOM LUCY. I THINK HIS OLDER THAN 3.2MIL,THATS Y HE KNOWS ALL KIND OF HISTORY.
GOD BLESS SATENAW'S FAMILY
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 20:40

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msg Comment from: Meyesaw Kasa [Visitor]
wawooo Zeresenay Alemseged
Great Discovery viva yager lij ! What do you think people, He is Axumite, He know where this old people of the past use to live . He is hunting them one at a time. just wait and see, more to come. Zeru brother, your next assignment will be to find Meles Zenawi 1st ancester around Adawa valley`s and bring him in Courts ! This even will make you the top scientist in your field. besakkkkkkkkkkkkkk
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 20:54

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msg Comment from: gundan [Member]
“.....Germogn Limot!....”……Free


Free:

I have great respect and admiration for all human endeavor including all the sciences and humanities. It was a great moment of pride and excitement for Ethiopians when we learned about the discovery of ‘Lucy’; ever since then people have been searching and finding skulls and skeletons of all sorts which leads me to believe there is tons and tons of those where that came from.

Primarily my postings on this were meant as a tongue-in-cheek approach on the subject. However, now that everyone is coming down on me like a tone of bricks, I might as well harden my stance and have my 2-cents on the subject.

I just find it very hard to get overexcited and worked up every time someone discovers an old skeleton from an obvious prehistoric graveyard. In my humble opinion, exercises like these are ‘unsuccessful successes’ and nothing else. Once again this is my personal opinion and has no bearing what so ever on the efforts and brilliance of Dr. Zeresenay and all the people involved in this project.


Cheers,

-Gundan
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msg Comment from: Metene [Visitor]
I am astonished with this discovery. Serious! Why always search the same place over and over again? In order to make such findings should it always be those bleak desert and dry lands? If you keep digging the same area where can it be found. I wish they now go for some other desert somewhere in the world and dig up. For comparative advantage and racial diversity too. I am, to be honest fade up with these pieces, shreds and patches of depressing bones. please do not take it negatively. I have not heard that Lucy had a child. I bet she died of Malaria, who knows HIV. whew !!
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 21:01

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msg Comment from: Fatuma [Visitor]
Wow! Finding like this adds to the aura of Ethiopia and if marketed properly, would help to build a tourist industry.


Oh Tourists-go visit your Original Home and Cradle of Mankind (and spend a lot of money).


It is great that it is an Ethiopian scientist who made this discovery.

Fatuma
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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
eclad you hodam you are interested on someyhing which fills your hod.you dont care about any historical or intellectual achievment'for you if it brings immediate cash is important but if doesntit is worthless.no wonder all your comments are shallow and child like.money without brain(like you )is still worthless.
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 21:30

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msg Comment from: gudu gana [Visitor]
gundan that is really nice of you.
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msg Comment from: Andolem [Visitor]
God what is genius fellow, Im just proud of you, what can I say, you know what I am in your foot step one day, we can reach your climate, we can chagne the imgage of ethiopia if work hard together. Why not get the clue?
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 21:42

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msg Comment from: DANIEL THE ETHIOP@N [Visitor]
I WILL ALWAYS HAVE A PLACE I COULD CALL HOME,how about ya all?
PermalinkPermalink 09/20/06 @ 21:50

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msg Comment from: Abdissa [Visitor]
It is so revealing of the contemporary situation in the country - Zeresenay (another TPLF Cadre) who benefitted from the TPLF Education Policy, that favours Tigreans at all cost, is one of many Tigreans enjoying the educational priviledge provided to the chosen "Tigreans" - by design! Although the findings is at best accidental and do not require - Calculus OR Technology - Cut Zeresenay to size!!!
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msg Comment from: Free [Visitor]
"In my humble opinion, exercises like these are ‘unsuccessful successes’ and nothing else."....Gundan



You might be right, however only time, humans curiosity and effort will decide the degree of importance of these finding.

For Ethiopia, thanks to all interested researchers, may be one day when we have a real Ethiopian government, we will have a musium that desplays Lucy and her family. Those who fall in love with her and her fimily have to come home to pay the deserved respect, and i am sure there are many out there. God willing, just in time, Ethiopians will not be as cheap as we are right now who are leaving our home for millions of reasons. Even the artistic work of one famous painter's work has great respect to the point that it is not allowed to touch or move it from place to place, u name it, let alone LUCY the human kind ancestor. Again, just in time "the unsuccessful success" will be proved a real time success. for a generation that have been failing miserably.....eh let our ancestors' "dead skull galore" take care of our living.

With Respect!


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msg Comment from: Helina [Visitor]
ውድ ዘረሰናይ…

የበለጠ ያደነኩህ በአዲሱ ግኝትህ ወጣትዋን የሉሲን ልጅ የሰጠሀት ስም ልቤን ነክቶታል !

ሰላም…ሰላም…ሰላም….. እግዜር ይባርክህ ! አዎን ሰላም ጠምቶናል ፤ሰላም ርቦናል ፤ሰላምን ፍለጋ…ጨካኞች ገለውናል ፤ለሰላም በጮህን …በግፍ በሽዎች ታስረናል ።

አንተም ኢትዬዽያዊው ውድ ወንድሜ ስም ፍለጋ ብዙ አላስኬደህም ።ጭንቀትህን የገለፅክ አስመሰለብኝ።

ወንድሜ እኔም ላንተ ሰላም እመኛለሁ !

ሰላም ለሃገራችን !!!

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msg Comment from: Timbuktu [Visitor]
Stop digging for skulls & start digging for oil.
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msg Comment from: Choice [Visitor]
Yergacheffe....Negeregna!
You really made me laugh.
The idea of stone throwing is exactly what will cross in the mind of the Agaazi Militia when they heard about the "discovery of baby Lucy".

Choice
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msg Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]
Great job Dr. Zeresenay as well as his team. God bless you all.
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msg Comment from: yohannes newzealand [Visitor]

THANX HELINA,YOU FINISHED MY WORDS,THANX FOR THAT
"ውድ ዘረሰናይ…

የበለጠ ያደነኩህ በአዲሱ ግኝትህ ወጣትዋን የሉሲን ልጅ የሰጠሀት ስም ልቤን ነክቶታል !

ሰላም…ሰላም…ሰላም….. እግዜር ይባርክህ ! አዎን ሰላም ጠምቶናል ፤ሰላም ርቦናል ፤ሰላምን ፍለጋ…ጨካኞች ገለውናል ፤ለሰላም በጮህን …በግፍ በሽዎች ታስረናል ።

አንተም ኢትዬዽያዊው ውድ ወንድሜ ስም ፍለጋ ብዙ አላስኬደህም ።ጭንቀትህን የገለፅክ አስመሰለብኝ።

ወንድሜ እኔም ላንተ ሰላም እመኛለሁ !

ሰላም ለሃገራችን !!!"

ሩጫህን ቀጥል የሉሲ የልጅ አባት ዘረሰናይ
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msg Comment from: SAS [Visitor]
Scientist Zeresenay Alemseged

Congratulations, we are proud of you and your findings my bro.

Satena, Free, Gundan & co…

Day by day I just can see your frustration, the more you are frustrated the more you unmask yourself, the hate inside you about Ethiopia and Ethiopian civilization is coming out day by day unraveling your true identity, If you where a real Ethiopian you could have appreciate about this young man findings, but it is unfortunate you jump to criticize the bright chilled of Ethiopia. God knows the reason behind your idiotic and senseless comments, as this got nothing to do with politics.

If you think this is the way forward, I would like to advice you to go to school, instead of you telling the brilliant scientist to go and find another job.

The new found creature which existed 3.3 million years ago, call it human, ape or chimpanzee I bet you they used to think better than your moron head. Don’t forget our scientists may one day found a cure for your dissolution, brainless, frustrated mad leader; Dedeb Shaebia hula. Get a life and get real.


God Bless You All!
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]

አባቱን የማያዉቅ-አያቱን ሚናፍቅ፤
ኣፈር ሲደረምስ-ቅልጥም ሲሰበስብ ይኖራል በማድነቅ።
ሳይንስ ብሎ ይለኛል-ያማረ መስሎት፤
የፈጣሪ ቁጣ- ሲወርድ እየታይ በረኅብ ቸነፈር በዝናብ መዕት።
ምነዉ ቤንዚን ዉኅ ምሰህ ማታወጣ፤
አጥንት ከመልቀሙ-ወሬ ከማዉራቱ ያዉም ስለጦጣ።

ጦጣ እምድር ወረደ-ከተሰቀለበት ከግራር ከዋንዛ፤
ብለህ ትለናለህ? እያየን ባይናችን የሉሲ ዝርያ
የሰዉን ልጅ ኣንቆ አፍኖ ሲገዛ።

በኦጋዴንና በጋምቤላ ላይ፤
ነዳጅ እንደዉኅ ተንጣሎ ሲታይ፤
ተሰዉሮ ነው ወይ ኣላይ ያለዉ ዓይናችሁ፤
እንደራስ ቅሉና እንደስብርባሪ ኣጥንት ያልጎረፈላችሁ?

የኣዝብጤ እናት የገመቹ እናት የዑርጌሳ እናት የኡጁሉ እናት፤

መከራዋን ስታይ በተፈጥሮም ሆነ በሰዉ ሰራሽ መአት፤
የበርሄ ወንድም የመሀመድ ወንድም አገር ጥሎ ሲሸሽ፤
ዘመናዊዉ ጦጣ ኢትዮጵያን ሲያኮላሽ፤
እየታየ በዉል ምን እሚሉት መላ፤
ለነሉሲ ማልቀስ ለፈረሰዉ ገላ፤
ዳቦ አይሆን እንጀራ የህዝብ ሆድ አይሞላ።

ያረጀ ያፈጀ ዘመን ያለፈበት ሬሳ ከመቆፈር፤
የሙታን ማረፍያ አፈር ከመበርበር፤
ነዳጅ ወርቅ ይፈለግ የሚጠቅም ለሀገር ።


ኻነበብኩት ወስጄ ለዚህ ርእስ መጠነኛ ለዉጥ ኣድርጌበታለሁ።

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

Santenaw
What are you talking? Put your eye- glass and don't just take a glimpse of me, instead take a very close look at me. Don't I look magnificent?? Again like the saying goes, "Beauty is the eyes of the beholder"
What really bother me is the fact that as you imagining that I am Lucy, the mother of all homo sapiens, it is a pitty that one of my offspring is you, the furushka brain Santenaw.


And for those erudite people on this forum, specially Lekim, RA, Gundan, can someone tell us in which period did Lucy and her ber babies live? is it the Neandertal or prior?

See Santenaw, I don't even remember which period of human evolution I live in. You are right I am getting not old but like wine and champagne I am becoming valued for my old age
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msg Comment from: Mazash [Visitor]
A great discovery and a very appropriate name.
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
Emama/woyzero Shelle

ኣንቺ ጨርጫሳ ኣሮጊት የዉሽት ፈረንጅ ነኝ (የጀርመንና የስዊድን ክልስ) ብለሽ ያ ሸታታ አፍሽን ከከፍትሽ ጀምሮ በተደጋጋሚ ብጠይቅሽም ፈረንጅነትሽን ደግመሽ ለመናገር አፍረሻል።

ለነገሩ የዚህ "ፎረም" እድምተኛ በሙሉ ቀባጣሪ፤ አቃጣሪና የከረከሰች የትግሬ ሸሌ መሆንሽን በሚገባ ተረድቷል።

እኔም እንግዲህ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለሁም ስላልሽ( አንቺ ብዬ ምዳፈርሽ የአሮጊት ቅሌታም በመሆንሽ ነዉ) እስቲ እንደፈለግኩ ስድብ ላቅምስሽ እማማ ሸሌ። ምክንያቱም ኣንዴ ፈረንጅ ነኝ ብለሽ ቀባጥረሻልና አንጀትሽ እርር ድብን ቢልም መለስ እንደማትሰጪኝ ስለማዉቅ ነው።

የባንዳዎች ዉሽት እንደሆነ ለከት የለዉምና ደሞ ሰዉ ተረጎመልኝ ብለሽ ያ ከርካሳ አጥንትሽን እንዳታንቑቂብኝ። የሚቀጥለዉ ግጥም በቅርቡ በሚፈፅመዉ የቀብር ስነስርአትሽ ላይ ሚነበብ ከወዳጅሽ ሳተናዉ የተሰጠ ስጦታ ነዉና ጥሩ ቦታ አስቀምጭዉ።



አንድ ኅሙስ የቀራት ጥንዛታም ኣሮጊት፤

ምን ይሆን ምክንያቱ እንዲህ ምትቀልበት?

አጭበርባሪ ዎያኔ ፈረንጅ ተብዬ፤

ልክስክሷ ባንዳ ወራዳ ድሩዬ፤

ደህና ሰንብቱልኝ እማሆይ ሸልዬ

ቀብሮን እደርሳለሁ በዚህም በዚያ ብዬ።



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msg Comment from: Weye good... [Visitor]
There are a lot of 'degai ras' individuals on this forum whose postings I just skip over as I find it a complete waste of time reading. Their English is horrid as is the content of what they are writing.

Anyway, back to the subject matter.

Any TRUE Ethiopian would find this type of news a great success story and the fact that it was discovered by one of our own makes it even sweeter news!

Selassie

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msg Comment from: selememaster [Visitor]
FREE

Today you just made my day by saying positive thing about this finding. I am glad you didn't relate this with politics. But then again on your second comment you put your little finger in the politics. I do not know what medication you taking but i see some changes. Keep up the good work.
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msg Comment from: Abdissa [Visitor]
Satenaw:

Keep up the good work - Time after Time, YOU ARE CUTTING THE TIGRE CADRES TO SIZE!!!
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Wozeiro Condjo,

Are things getting hectic at your end? I am starting to miss your feisty humor in this forum.

With respect to the majestic Lucy, based on Carbon 14 (C14) dating practices, Lucy is believed to have been schmoozing with her hubby in the African savanna under the star studded African night around 3.2 millions years ago during the Pliocene Epoch of the Tertiary Period. My friend Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ believes that is when Satenaw was conceived. I personally wish that Lucy was not in the mood that night. At least Satenaw now knows that it wasn’t an immaculate conception.

Anyway, the Pliocene Epoch is the last time frame of the Tertiary Period which run from 5.3 to 1.8 million years before present. The Tertiary Period span from 65 to 1.8 million years before present and it is referred to as the age of the “mammals”. The great dinosaurs which ruled planet earth for over 160 millions years are believed to have died out at the end of the Cretaceous Period and the beginning of the Tertiary Period about 65 millions years before present.

PS:

Did you notice that Gundan was getting pretty much steamed up at the sight of Lucy?
I thought upper class boys are a little bit reserved when it comes to these matters compare to some of us goat herders.


Cheers


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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]
Cher Zeru,

Toutes mes félicitations une fois de plus pour ta découverte de la paix: Selam.

Ne trouves-tu pas que quelques-uns parmi ceux qui commentent ici sont plus sauvages que les Tyrannosaures que tu m’avais montré?

Ton frère,

Le lion, dans la cage dorée.

Ra
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Hey Ra'Oeil ራዕይ “A lion in a cage” hmmm. It smells like a wide open barn door but I will choose to pass for now. Cheers
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]
lekim, please go ahead...since when are you restraining yourself?

Keep embarrassing yourself...

Ra
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msg Comment from: geberu [Visitor]
Do you guys realizes that the skull looks like Meles's head? Who knows that may be the end of the monkey regime>
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msg Comment from: Zena [Visitor]
Satenaw,

Are you still stack with loathsome personality i.e. addiction to insult, insult and insult with out making any sense what so ever.

It only shows how a little spoiled prat you are when you spit what ever words come to your mouth.

As I have asked you before, when on earth are you going to spring up and develop to maturity?

All the words you have written magnifies your ill judgement as well as yours the lowest of the low personality.

You certainly need to pass through a process of natural growth, growth and growth.



Regards, Zena

[eidted]
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msg Comment from: yoni [Visitor]
Those who don't see the importance of the discovery are the same people who dig their brain in an effort to relate the issue with politics. THE SMALL HALLOW SCULL FOUND HAVE MORE BRAIN THAN YOU GUYS. THEY WANT ALL SCHOLARS AND INTELLECTUALS TO HOLD THEIR BREATH TILL CUD COMES TO POWER.

VERY IMPORTANT DISCOVERY for the country's tourism industry as well as the continent itself as AFRICA HAS THE FASTEST TOURISM INDUSTRY IN THE PLANET AT THIS POINT.
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]
She was unveiled yesterday in a lecture theatre in the basement of the National Museum in Addis Ababa by proud paleontologist Zeresenay Alemseged (the one on the right) who led the team that found most of her skeleton about five years ago.

At the end of his presentation, he turned to the audience of journalists and academics and politicians and asked 'So what shall we name her'.

It seemed to be a genuine request. He hadn't decided and wanted us to make the historic decision there and then. He had a few pointers.

The name had to be as good and universally easy to say as Lucy – the name of what, until yesterday, was Ethiopia's most famous early human remain. (They both date from the same era, making them Australopithecus afarensis.) It had to be the name of a girl. It had to be Ethiopian. And he wanted it to express a sense of peace – earlier he had talked about how he had had to employ armed guards on the dig because of ongoing hostilities in Afar.

That didn't really leave us much to play with. 'Selam' (Amharic for peace) said one of the journalists. The Culture Minister made a quick argument for using the Afar word for peace instead. But after few more impromptu speeches from the floor, it was agreed that 'Selam' would mean peace to most Ethiopians without causing any offence.

So that was that. She was Selam – Ethiopia's latest claim to being the cradle of the human race. It was only then that Dr Zeresenay admitted that Selam was also his wife's name and he was relieved everyone had made the right choice.
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msg Comment from: Tedla Asfaw [Visitor]
Good Job Alemseged for your hard work and you named the child Selam which means peace.

I wish our ancient country got Selam when we give to the world the oldest and youngest child of the human ancesstory.

Who knows your wish might come true and we will have Selam too.
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
Zena, the fax machine, well come back wedi Banda!

While you were in the wilderness, your old boy friend Lekim was flirting with some weird living thing called Ababa/Emama Shelle.

Furthermore, since you left this blog a dozen of shit head, maggots & rodents-like Ambasha cadres were swimming at this blog. Hope you edify them how to be a full-size Hodam Ambasha Banda.

I guess you needed me for a good homecoming party, so your wish is granted, Mr the second pompous Banda. (I’m sorry lekim is always the big pompous Banda).If you don't work harder Emama shelle is in the verge of displacing you from the second position.
Once again well come back The 2nd/3rd hideous Banda.
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msg Comment from: lekim [Visitor]
Ra'Oeil ራዕይ

“'Selam' (Amharic for peace)”

So you know, "Selam" also means peace in numerous other Ethiopian languages including Arabic.
What happened to the other percentages of your heritage?

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msg Comment from: Amira [Visitor]
I'm proud of by ethiopian people. You see we are the base of humans, we have to show them like this.
Great Job
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msg Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]
lekim, you are always on the look out for some “tribal” sign from me, aren't you?You parano.

My post was a quote from Meskel Square but someone smarter than me decided that it would look better if it was not a block-quote as I had it posted in the first place. I have given the source as a link which is where the new pic highlighting this article was taken… go and read it, you will learn one thing or two about your culture minister who seem to share your mindset...Congra.

Cheers,

Ra

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msg Comment from: mike [Visitor]
I was really shocked when I read some of the comments about your finding, but I would like to reveal my appreciation and proud for your work.Our people hate when soomeone from ther country accomplish by any means.It makes me feel like,Ethiopians have not changed that much although thier scull size kept increasing.
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msg Comment from: Fatuma [Visitor]
I just heard from our local radio station that a 3000 year old baby girl was discovered by a team of Ethiopian scientists in the "badlands" of Ethiopia.

The broadcast said the little girl was named Selam "which means Peace in the Ethiopian language".


Nice! I wish they had mentioned Zeresenay by name though as he deserves to be an international celebrity.

Fatuma



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msg Comment from: getachew [Visitor]
I think Dr.zeru.DId a great job.I can not imagine the magnitude of hatrage for science.These has nothing to do with poltics of any kind.Let us be human beings.we do not know if dr.Alemseged is a tigri
or an oromo or an amhara.It is funny for me to even thing diffrences.the scientist are not thinking anything about his tribal orgin.Let us think we all have no major diffrences.Let us unite and praise great work.Let not think that we know geology when we actually have no clue.I think all
ethiopian through out ethiopia are ethiopian regardless our skewed mentality.
We will leave in peace all togather
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msg Comment from: ya [Visitor]
Tebalu!!!, we have to give a support, not about Politics people, what's wrong with you all.
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msg Comment from: care [Visitor]
I was really shocked when I read some of the comments , what a curse upon ethiopians? Brother May the Lord bless your vision. Keep up a good job.
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msg Comment from: Eski Zeleke [Visitor]
Some of the comments by these UNEDUCATED fools make me laugh. What does finding an ancient remains has to do with Politics ??? ARe you really that stupid that u would make a discovery of a bone a political debate?? Damn !
PermalinkPermalink 09/21/06 @ 21:48

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msg Comment from: harif [Visitor]
nice job doc. ignore these low life and dropouts. i don't think some of them knows what you do.
keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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msg Comment from: Hong Chin [Visitor]
Why are you people so mad coz he is Tigre right? Ok lets say one of your people found the skull what would you say great job right? Anyway way man good job and don’t worry about this people coz they just jealous.

Good luck mate

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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Santenaw,

"My advice to you is, Get a real job! Get it soon, as you wasted so much of your time collecting corpses!"

See how hateful you are. Just because Zeresenay Alemseged is of Tigray you are trying to trash his discovery. But let me tell you, the discovery made it front page news in almost every country around the world. And you a piece of undeveloped embryo, whose brain is not even formed instead it is full of placenta, is trying to trash this very prominent scientist only because he is from Tigray. Ante zeregna kushasha; You should hang yourself and try to reincarnate as a human being because in this life time you are just a "goddello"
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msg Comment from: Brea [Visitor]
Long life Zeru!
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msg Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]
Hi Lekim,

Thank you for the information.

Yes, you are right, the last 3 weeks it is unimaginable how busy I have been. At the last moment before Ramadan which is this week-end, the arabs are buying and trading like this is their last day on earth.

Busy or not I enjoy reading your postings. You know I am a big fan of you.

I am back now to tame this caterpillar Santenaw.

I take this moment to wish to all our Muslims brothers and sisters " Shahar Mubarreck" which translates - "Blessed month" this is the way to wish a muslim a happy Ramadan.
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msg Comment from: Eth.1888 oromo be Ethiopia [Visitor]
woyane 2005 ye gadelachewun ahun eyawatu yihonal ayy zarsanay
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msg Comment from: Add [Visitor]
Great Zeresenay,

There are a lot of animals in the Diaspora both from the opposition, the Woyane camp, the neutrals and some Eritreans who are distorting facts and figures and damaging Ethiopian value.

I met some guys abroad some years back who were so much surprised by the introduction of the computer technology in Ethiopia. One of them asked me "Are there computers in Ethiopia?"

They think that since they are living abroad they know everything. But the fact is most of them are damn idiots. Probably about 5% of the Ethiopia Diaspora can think rationally, the rest is just working class in a foreign land who knows nothing much different from the Ethiopian peasants.
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msg Comment from: abash [Visitor]
Good work Dr. Zerisenay. We all habesha and africans proud of you. You prove ït that we african can make a mircle. It is a good start. God blesse you brother!!!!!
From neighbour country.
Abash.
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msg Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]
Hong Chin said, "lets say one of your people found the skull what would you say great job right"?

No Mr Hong Chin, I would advise them to get a real job instead of troubling the deceased!

Now I have answered your question & it’s my turn to ask you.

Hong Chin, are you a sour Chinese soup?
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msg Comment from: Ali [Visitor]
Im so proud of you bro !!! goood job!!!
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msg Comment from: rass kiru [Visitor]
thanks dr I AM PROUD BY YOUR DISCOVERY!SORRY FOR THOSE UNKNOWN THEY CALL THEM SELVE ETHIOPIAN.HOREABLES SATENAW AND GUNDAN.YOU ARE POOR IN MIND IN LIFE TOO.YEMENDER LEG ZER ASEDABY YESEWNT GREMA LEZA YELALACHU.ezaw hagerbet nachu azenalew kenante gar tekoten 70m medresachen.yezara 10 amet hagera laye endenante ayente murro astawsalew betely molam aru akabai kelale dum selhone beamlak mich tumtew alkewal.i wish god will clean you us soon from such viruse like you..........poletica layla keber layla betchit alekacu.....
PermalinkPermalink 09/23/06 @ 01:27

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
When God created man and woman he created them like we are today nothing less nothing more. If some of you on this forum believe that human evolved from ape you are just loosing it. I can’t help but laugh at an evolution theory that a single cell wound up populating the earth with different types of species! It is amazing how people are slaved with this type of thinking. Then, if evolution is true, don’t you think you are feeding yourself of your brother/sister lamb, goat, chicken, fish and so on and so forth?

People, think, think evolution is as anti creation as the devil is anti Christ!
PermalinkPermalink 09/23/06 @ 01:53

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Add,
“…the rest is just working class in a foreign land who knows nothing much different from the Ethiopian peasants.”

May I say one thing to you Mr. Add; The Ethiopian peasants know a lot better than you self-claimed intellectual faggot! They made you to what you are to day by feeding you, DEDEB. Now instead of you thanking them, you are degrading them as ‘know nothing people’. Let us see how good you are by feeding yourself with out the help of The Ethiopian Peasants. WERADA!!!
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msg Comment from: Add [Visitor]
Dude Thunder!

Is Thunder the military rank given to cyber “heroes”? I don’t think you got my point. You must be one of those rubbish Diasporas. I know my peasant fathers much better than you do I am sure. I know their natural wisdom very well and I am not dwarfing them to the level you are thinking. However, we shouldn't deny the fact that they are not competent enough for life on this planet in the 21 century and we should should make an effort together to change their life. To your surprise I am living with them trying to pay back without running away for a green pasture. It is unfortunate that WOYNAE is crying the same cry that you are echoing for the last 15 years but doing nothing on the ground.
From your reaction, I can see that you are such an immature potato head creature whom I can teach a lesson on any field of science you mention.
PermalinkPermalink 09/23/06 @ 04:07

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msg Comment from: EZRA [Visitor]
Hello
THIS IS URGENT!!!!!!!

YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THESE EVOLUTIONISTS FROM ETHIOPIA!!!!
THEY HAVE DESTROYED MILLIONS OF PEOPLES FAITHS AND SO MUCH BAD AND EVIL HAS REGINED FROM IT!!! NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO DESTROY ETHIOPIANS CHRISTIAN FAITH!!!! I TELL YOU THAT EVOLUTION HAS NO REAL EVIDENCE, THEY DISSAPROVED CREATIONISTS. THE EVILUTIONIST DISCREDIT THE BIBLE AND OVERALL GOD!!!
THEY DONT BELIEVE THERE IS A CREATOR, THEY BELIEVE IN A DUMB THEORY OF THE BIG BANG!!! THEY BELIEVE MANS ANCESTOR IS A MONkEY, THEY HAVE CREATED SO MUCH TRASH AND YET NOT ONE WAS TRULY PROVEN RIGHT THEYRE NOTHING BUT THEORIES! HITLER AND MANY OTHERS believed in Evolution, watch THE SEMINARS BY DR KENT HOVIND. You see Evolution doesnt justify Right from Wrong. Oh my GOD.... you got to see these videos by Dr Kent Hovind (Creationist and a Born Again Christian) he has proven all Evolution theories wrong and yet all the Evolutionist werent able to tackle Dr Hovind or even prove Hovind wrong!!!
Ive seen over 10Hours on videos of Dr Hovinds seminars.
here visit
http://www.drdino.com/

here watch some of his College Seminars and debates
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1241785743161113358

But please fight for God, Dont let this Evolutionists into the Country before they alter our peoples minds for the worst. The NEW WORLD ORDER is coming SOON. THE BOOK REVELATION WILL UNFOLD IN OUR LIFETIME, ALL IS BEING SETUP.

http://www.johnleary.com/messages.asp
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msg Comment from: Zulu [Visitor]
Many thanks To Dr.Zeresenie."Yigebawal"
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msg Comment from: Defaru [Visitor]
we know this is one of the woyane plitical diversion system. we don't care about dead skull. We care for now that are been killed by Woyane at this very moment. This is again the Woyane and the bush Administration Political divertion system. What did we gain since even the era of LUCY.Nothing.
PermalinkPermalink 09/23/06 @ 11:28

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msg Comment from: Hagos [Visitor]
Some one said other dig for oil we did for kinf off sh*t (historical fact). My question to him is which one will last long? There is no everlating oil sucking but there is historical fact evidence to last untill, well...umeeeeee the doomsday eve.How does this sound unless you think yesterday was the eve or today kkkkkkkkkk.
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msg Comment from: Axumawi [Visitor]
Wedi Keyeh (Dr. Alemseged) -

I am very proud to have someone from own high school and city to find one of the world’s famous findings.


Although, I know you personally and hanged out together, I am delighted to drop you this note about you.

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msg Comment from: Jordan [Visitor]
Good Job Doc. Congradulation!!!!
PermalinkPermalink 09/23/06 @ 22:48

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msg Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]
Add,”

“I know my peasant fathers much better than you do I am sure.”


I don’t think so. I guaranty you, you don’t even know yourself.

Add wrote
“To your surprise I am living with them trying to pay back without running away for a green pasture.”


I am sure you do. What you are doing now is milk them dry by being dependent on them rather than work with them. I am from Addis, and I am quite sure I know where you are coming from.

Add wrote
“From your reaction, I can see that you are such an immature potato head creature whom I can teach a lesson on any field of science you mention.”


Mr. Adds, go ahead and teach me, I am always ready to learn, but I doubt it if you are able to be taught let alone school others. Science did you say? It happens to be my favorite one.

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