Should the West go on helping a repressive Ethiopia?

02/23/07

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Should the West go on helping a repressive Ethiopia?

On a dilemma in the Horn
Should the West go on helping a repressive Ethiopia?

Feb 22nd 2007 | ADDIS ABABA

The Economist

THE second most populous country in Africa and one of the poorest, Ethiopia is a test case for the West in its efforts to eradicate extreme poverty on the continent. But its government's undemocratic leanings have presented donor countries with a dilemma. Should they continue to funnel their taxpayers' money to a country that routinely jails and tortures its critics or should they turn off the tap and thereby hurt the blameless poor?

Most donors are keeping up or even increasing their giving. Britain, with qualms, is upping its aid from $180m last year to $260m this year. Some donors have harmonised and even pooled their support. Many have signed up to schemes to promote transparency and hold the government to account. Whether the nastier bits of Ethiopia's government will co-operate fully is moot.

So the donors—Western governments and charities—think that on balance they should continue to improve farming, health care, education and access to water in the rural areas where 85% of Ethiopians live. There are signs that the government's ambitious poverty-reduction strategy is working. Infant mortality is down, school attendance and literacy are up, though only 40% of Ethiopians can read and write.

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Farming practice may be improving. In Ethiopia's wet highlands farmers may try to diversify crops. Ethiopia hopes to export hydroelectricity to neighbouring Djibouti and Sudan. Some agronomists think that, with enough investment, Ethiopia will be able to feed itself. That may be optimistic. The population of 75m-plus is growing by about 2m a year. Food prices in Addis Ababa, the capital, rose last year by 27%.

In any event, Meles Zenawi's government is finding it hard to run the show. Some 80% of the people in Addis Ababa probably back opposition parties. In response, the government has become harsher, muzzling free speech and forcing independent newspapers to close. Many journalists are in jail on trumped-up charges. Dissidents have been disappearing, along with critical websites. Telephones are often tapped. For more than a year, text messaging on the country's small number of mobile phones has been hampered by “technical difficulties”.

The government keeps up a hum of fear with attacks on opposition supporters. Teachers are a favourite target. Some have been beaten so badly in detention they could not stand up in court. Even schoolchildren have faced the authorities' wrath. In Ambo, west of the capital, some 14 of them in a secondary school were detained; some were allegedly tortured. The usual charges, if brought at all, are sabotage or treason. Suspects are often “found” to have links with familiar bogeymen: neighbouring hostile Eritrea; the Oromo Liberation Front, a movement in the centre and south; or, in the heartland of the once-ruling Amhara around Addis Ababa, “terrorist groups” whose existence is fuzzy.

The opposition's lot may be worsening. Dissidents say as many as 250 supporters were rounded up on terrorist charges after the African Union summit last month; some have disappeared. The opposition's main leaders have been in prison for over a year. Torture, especially against lesser-known prisoners, is common. If rural areas are taken into account, extrajudicial killings may run into thousands. But the opposition is divided, often has regional rather than national allegiances, and tends to take its cue from radicals in exile.

Moreover, despite help from abroad, the economy is struggling. Exports are worth $1 billion against imports of $5 billion. Sales of coffee and flowers to the West have increased but not enough. Mr Zenawi has applied for membership in the World Trade Organisation. He has also asked China for loans—some say for $3.5 billion.

But most of all he is banking on keeping up his friendship with the EU and the United States, whose administration was delighted by the Ethiopian armed forces' recent success in invading neighbouring Somalia, capturing its capital, Mogadishu, and smashing the Somali Islamists who had taken over there. Still, there are conflicting attitudes to Ethiopia in Washington. Congress has lambasted Mr Zenawi's human-rights record and demanded cuts in aid. The Pentagon, on the other hand, is dead keen to boost his armed forces.

In September, hundreds of thousands of Ethiopians from their vast and far-flung diaspora are expected to visit their homeland to celebrate the coming of the third Christian millennium, according to their ancient church's calendar. Some hope Mr Zenawi, in a gesture of conciliation, will free some of his opponents from jail before then. But do not bet on it. Mr Zenawi has got used to wielding an iron fist.

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Comment from: Tola [Visitor]

Ethiopians have spoken clearly,
they said we are better of without Meles.We would have appreciated the west have listened our voices for once and cutt of any relation with the dictator.
Ethiopia deserves to get a chance to be led by its finest and brightest
elected leaders.
The days of carnage, fear, torture agony and hopelessness should be over with Meles.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 00:46

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Comment from: Yenus [Visitor]

We have seen it all your Billions and Billions of Dollar in aid and Loan which failed to bring any change in average Ethiopian life .Neither We nor the west should have to go through the same ordeal.It is time to see a different direction.It is time to demand good governance, the rule of law, respect for human rights and transparency before spending any tax payers money in aid.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 01:14

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Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]

In spite of all the lies in this article, there was one good part that stood out:

"Most donors are keeping up or even increasing their giving. Britain, with qualms, is upping its aid from $180m last year to $260m"

I love it!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 01:28

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Comment from: BELAW [Visitor]

PM Meles Zenawi - is The best and an exemplary leader that ruled Ethiopia in a long time. of course the west are not happy when a leader tries to change an African state. Most of former communist countries from East Europe are not happy about their government but you don't see them on the street of USA and Western Europe shouting against their government, instead you will find them trying to convince Investors to go and spend money in their countries The same goes to south and western Africa including south American countries ,Even Eritrea .so what is wrong with us ,Ethiopians? think! Ethiopians before you go out and protest against the government .by doing this we will drive away Investors and Donors who can help us to go out of poverty and those who can open Jobs back home and hire Our brothers and sisters .Remember PM meles isn't going to rule Ethiopia for ever .so If we are not happy with the next PM of our country ,are we going to protest in the street of America and western Europe ? let's think before action. GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 01:29

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Comment from: Tedemach [Visitor]

This article sucks. Meles is the best of the best.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 02:11

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Comment from: Netsanet_one [Visitor]

You negative thinking Ethiopians, you should know that any country including Westerns, specially, US are living interdependently one way or the other. I.E. importing goods from third world countries. There fore, you shouldn't think back ward to stop the progress that Ethiopia is making by implementing aid money in the right place.

Can’t you see the ring road? You blind. Still you want to stop Ethiopia from improving her economy and image.

Why don't you say "I don't want money for working in parking lot, than getting paid, Just ask yourself

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 02:42

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Comment from: gebre medhin [Visitor]

It's time Meles resign and let Seyoum or Abay take over the premiership.
First,it proves to the the world that it's not a one man show.Second,after being in charge for so long and bringing the country to where it's now ,it is crucial to bring refreshing forces to embark on to the coming stages.
Third,such a step ensures the protection of the achievements realized so far.fourth,it will neutralize disrupting forces.
Thank you!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 03:25

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Comment from: abera demeksa [Visitor]

All the lies about the Ethiopian government will bear no fruit. If anything they discredit the authors of such lies as the Ethiopian people see the facts on the ground being the exact opposite. The Ethiopian government,and people,are lucky they have such blatantly dumb enemies who keep hanging themselves as soon as someone hands them a long enough rope!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 03:45

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Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]

Ethiopia naturally is a very rich country. The land is fertile and has lots and lots of wealth. Its people are very hard working. It would be to the long lasting advantage of the west if they stop their donations to this shameless oppressor. Not only Ethiopia will feed itself, it will be the breadbasket of the world.
Stay tuned; the fast growing of Ethiopia’s economy under a new leader ship and the unity of its entire people will amaze the world. This is not a dream but this is the fact. The foundation of a better Ethiopia has been laid.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 03:50

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

I love Meles. He is good for our country.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 05:28

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Comment from: Netsanet [Visitor]

Netsanet (the ring road) writes

“Can’t you see the ring road? You blind. ……Why don't you say "I don't want money for working in parking lot, than getting paid, Just ask yourself”

“Ring road”? Are you trying to tell us making ring road is a sign of democracy and freedom? Look at that do you mean too during the Italian invasion, Mussolini built some roads and schools and according to you it was a kind of freedom and our forefathers should have stopped fighting? Alas!! What can I say for that?

If one read these sentences immediately knows who you are. The sentence is just self explanatory. They explain, not only the level of your education and you’re English but also they reflect the level of your maturity. Because of who you are, you dare to insult the people who cry for freedom and democracy for their people at the expense of leaving their mother land than to serve the enemies of Ethiopia who bleed its people

let me tell you the truth, it is much better to work in parking lot in freedom than to be a guard or clothe washer, or messenger or banda of the enemy of Ethiopia

cheers

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 07:28

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Comment from: tafesse [Visitor]

Nobody takes this article as serious. It looks as if it is written by a staff member whose ski vacation went sour and he/she is leaning back in a sofa burping after a heavy lunch. You want toothpicks? The rest room is to your left sir/madam. End of story.
The Economist has a singular way of thinking called "economy". America and the "West", which nowadays includes Poland and Serbia, has only one religion they share with Wall Street,
the $ sign. Pentagon decides in the end if you want to grease the wheels of the military industry machinery. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, where are you guys?
The Economist got one thing right, for a change. The jeremiad of the misguided diaspora is not going anywere, although it gives orders to dwellers of Kaliti. Opposition is divided and they are staring at the sunset hoping it is sunrise. Suddenly darkness falls and they, together with their ragtag, riffraff army of hooligans have found themselves fumbling in the dark. From their dark cave they can barely discern the light at the end of the tunnel. Meanwhile, Ethiopia is growing, growing, GROWING AND GROWING, and DEVELOPING too, something many people have a difficulty of understanding. Even the wise Ishac Diwan, country rep. of World Bank says it is a mystery how and why Ethiopia is making so much progress. It is mind-boggling. Wait and see, more is in the pipeline and it is not empty talk like pessimists of diaspora would have you to believe. Let me share a heavily guarded secret with you. The real heartland of Ethiopia is not in the urbanized shanty towns of Addis Ababa without a sewage system. The real heartland (85%) of Ethiopia is out there in the rural areas, the perifery as some call it, the marginalized, the forgotten, the neglected, the oppressed, the meek that shall inherit the earth, much like the grass, whether you like it or not. And they are marching forward, thanks to the poverty reduction programme, the water harvesting schemes, the flower farms, the hydroelectric dams, good governance steadily improviing, the schools, the health centres and last but not least, our own, homegrown, EPRDF and Meles the indomitable. Self confidence may not solve your problems but without it you will be like a train going backwards.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:00

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Comment from: Aba Jifar [Visitor]

The current (Feb. 22) issue of The Economist has an uncharacteristically favorable article on Eritrea, saying it can "help or hinder progress in the Horn." The same issue has an equally uncharacteristic slap at the rival Ethiopian regime, asking "Should the West go on helping a repressive Ethiopia?" It starts out with an outline of aid projects in Ethiopia, as if "the West's" only interest in Africa was fighting poverty. Only at the very end does it mention the strategic struggle in Somalia which is driving the West's alliance with Addis Ababa. This is pretty indicting, but one can smell empty hand-wringing—or, at best, a warning that Meles Zenawi may not prove to be a stable proxy in the long run... An excerpt from The Economist:

Should the West go on helping a repressive Ethiopia?

http://www.economist.com/world/africa/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8742038

Eritrea a small country that can help or hinder progress towards peace in the Horn

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:13

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Comment from: sora [Visitor]

The problem is the West. Although they preach about democracy around the world and invade, condemn and sanction countries for their human rights abuses, they only do it if it serves their interests. Issayas has committed the same abuses Meles has to his population (although to a lesser extent) but because Issayas doesn’t follow what the West tells him to do, Eritrea is condemned and sanctioned. So don’t wait for the West to rescue your country. The only way that’ll happen is if Meles switches his allegiance (and he’ll never bite the hand that feeds him). Or continue to live your lives while your Addis Ababa flourishes and hope that your rural areas can develop a fraction as much as Addis has. And continue to be swallowed by loans and aid YIRGACHEFFE seems to think it’s a blessing.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:18

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Comment from: Zena [Visitor]

Dear all,

I read the article with interest. However, the dilemma for the West to help Ethiopia or not should not be Ethiopia’s mantra.

I say this ONLY because although we live on an interdependent world, what justify the end are one’s hard work and creativity – PERIOD.

For this reason, I believe there should be some basic questions that should be addressed in relation to the West’s help to Ethiopia.

I therefore raise the following issues:

- Aid or cooperation for whom?
- With whom?
- When?
- How?
must be clearly answered.

Nevertheless, one must not forget the reality and it is: aid could be a gift that kills creativity and hard work of the recipients.

My dream for Ethiopia is therefore, to establish a prosperous and democratic country in which all its citizens enjoy a high standard of living with social justice.

Of-course, in order to achieve this goal, swift and balanced regional growth at federal level, participatory political system and vibrant economy that enjoy rapid, regionally and sectorally balanced economic growth should be developed.

I therefore conclude by expressing my believe and it is: Ethiopia should recognize the very fact that development partners may OR may not play a crucial role in promoting development and a developing nation like Ethiopia MUST rely on her human resources and human capitals as a paramount importance.

Of-course this requires, genuine commitment, tolerance, and mutual respects among the whole stakeholders.

Any meaningful thoughts?

Regards, Zena

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:29

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Comment from: Tigray4Ever [Visitor]

A question to all CUD supporters:

Have you watched the interview Hailu Shawel conducted with BBC's HardTalk presenter Steven Sacker more than a year ago after the 2005 election? Have you noticed then how poor he was to explain himself and his party's stand on all spheres? Have you then imagined how dreadful it would be Ethiopia to be led by such people?

At that time EPRDF had given CUD two options: Either to contest for leadership peacefully and claim it peacefully if they won (without insurrection, that is) or to go to the bush and start armed struggle and claim leadership violently. None of these two options materialized. The reasons being: -
1.People are fed up with their ethnic cleansing policies and won't allow them in power.
2.They don't have the gut to fight in the bush against EPRDF.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:35

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Comment from: hilemicael [Visitor]

Ethiopia is worseoff today thant it was fifteen years ago. However, its citizens are more capable of working hard to bring a better Ethiopia. The west should stop financing a repressive regime in Ethiopia. Their money goes to the security, and gun for killing ethiopians. The crime minister is finished without their money. Stop the distruction of ethiopia....the American got message from kinijit early on and distanced themselves from them. The problem the west does not like leades like kinijit..they want slefiish and hate mongers like melesse

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 08:49

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ glad to hear from you at this time. Missed to see your mebrak aganist anti peace elements as usual. Bezuh metefa'e tsibuk aikonen.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 09:14

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Comment from: ababu [Visitor]

Thanks God reporters are not policy makers. Especially practitioners of remote-journalism like the Economist. When it comes to reporting about Africa the policy of Western reporters is that they do not have to look hard and fast. They feel they can assume their way through and write some mumbo jumbo based on their assumptions about Africa. And who gets hurt on this kind of careless reporting? Truth gets hurt. And that ain't good.

thanks

ababu

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 09:49

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Comment from: nengi [Visitor]

The economist told it like it is.

Thanks a million. I am sure many policy makers in the west will read it and think more than once in their dealings with the Thugs in Addis Ababa.

The lie and coverup is dring out. Meles is hanging by a thin thread with the west.
The days of the minority goons tormenting our people are counted.
The oromo and the Amhara people that are suffering the brunt of this crime by Meles zenawi should unite unconditionally and reject it. We cannot continue to accept the buchering of our people by the Tigrean regime.

Dont forget to boycott anything woyane. We have to make that country a hell for its oppressors.
Street smart Meles zenawi is running out of excuses. He is exposed byond repair as this Economist article proves.

Hats off to the superb journalism by the Economist. Thank God it restored my hope in Western journalism

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 09:51

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Comment from: The Python [Visitor]

I think Meles is the best leaders to that unfortunate country so far. However, that doesn't mean he is the best of the best in time and in space.

There are people who can do better, at least in mobilizing the people . However, these Cudites are the worst of the worst yet. How can they beg donors to stop aid to the starving people for their own selfish political gain? Hm, is that how they represent the people?

Do they know that if USA and UN suspended their aids for one year, at least 10 million of our people were gone for good? It is like to plug off the life support of a critical patient. Hm, Cudites don’t care as long as they control power.

To your surprise TPLF were acting like angles through the mouth of its leaders until they command power from the palace. However, through time they failed the scarified people and the poor who started to smile imagining a better Ethiopia(economically things have been going better in the last three years).

However, these senile Cudites failed the poor at the very beginning even before clinging to power by working hard to block aid. They have shown to the world that their calculations don’t have the people in their domains.

I'm happy to see Meles renounces to a more competent and responsible young generation. I'm fed up with these old monstrous who are blinded by rhetoric chauvinism. C’mon be pragmatic and think about to change the life of the people, not about your political gain based on blood , hair and history.

I don’t care who leads that country, Amhara, Wolayeta, Afar, Oromo,tigre, Benishangul…. I want to have leaders who can snatch our poor people from the Jaw of ruthless Hunger . I fancy leaders who can listen and respond to the heartbeats of the poor. I dream to have a leader who can feed food , not cheap propaganda and chuvinism, to the poor three times a day. Finally I prey God to give the poor people his grace.

Peace for us!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 11:03

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Comment from: moa [Visitor]

If the International community specially the west wants to see a real progress in Ethiopia, they would have supported the aspiration of Ethiopians for freedom, democracy and the rule of law. The fact is they are not interested. In fact they are working against it. The big powers if they wanted can order Meles to release the prisoners or pack his bag by making a single phone call from Washington or London. It is as simple as that. Don’t forget that they are the one who put him there in the first place.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 11:12

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Comment from: tman [Visitor]

What sad , miserable predicament we keep finding ourselves in. And it’s all because of us. Have we lost our humanity completely? Why do we allow such vicious , brutal murderers and their “yes men” cohorts lead us? Why do we tolerate even accept unspeakable atrocities as fact of life? Why are we unable to unite and rally around worthwhile causes? United, we can make dictatorship history, eradicate poverty and most diseases, educate our people so they stand up for themselves and generally improve the lives of millions of Ethiopians. Instead of uniting around the big picture that’s ONE ETHIOPIA, we let the tiniest little difference among us keep us divided. Ethiopia will change only when all of us become outraged at what’s happening today. Yes, we are “ OUR BROTHERS KEEPER”

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 11:32

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Comment from: Selememaster [Visitor]

PEOPLE

Don't be frustrated by the comments of few X-derg/CUD. There is no country on the planet with out any oppositions from inside. Don't let these few opposition make you discourage. Regardless of these few opposition, the country is moving forward. There are always few bad apples among the good ones. There fore relax and focus on what ever you doing. You wonder why the government kept doing what they doing regardless of these few anti-Ethiopian group. Of course when ever necessary, they do what they have to do, right? you know what i mean.

God bless you all!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 11:49

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Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]

What the Western countries must understand that the Ethiopian peoples want to get rid of Zenawi's regime .A free and prosporous country will garantee stability in the region than a weak one based on ethno mafia regime that is always begging their helps .So what is TPLF and its regime . LONG LIVE THE TRUE ETHIOPIANS !!!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 12:07

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Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]

It is good that the virtues of the state of things in Ethiopia is affirmed that the people are better of in all the meaningful measures of thier well being or of their standard of living than at any time. It is shown the utility of the masses is much more improved they are not any more die of starvation.
The short comings are beyound the control of the government. It has to choose the better of the two evils the interest of the majority of the population of Ethiopia that live in the rural areas and the self actualisation of ethnocentric, we know it all city dwellers that are being bombarded by 100's of tabloid news papers. They are freer to day to write or speak what they want to than the "Dixi Chicks" could. Compared to the news that comes from FOX or CNN whose bottom line advertisement and profit is the censor, the Ethiopian news papers or tabloid of partisan politics have less negative consequence. Even in a developed country there are some news that are classified for the security need of the nation. When some political news paper says there was a massacar in Ogaden, a genocide in Addis and people beaten up in Ambo, thrown in jail and tortured all over the country. Number one the don't use the right definition of a genocide, or other govt. offences. They don't have the capacity to cover all that happens in the country, it is hear say or just fictitious roumer. The states are self governing bodies and they only ask help from the federal government when it is only out of there control. There are not news papers worthy of the name in Ethiopia, most feed the ethnically charged consumer, malicious and mendacious politically baised garbbage. Other wise it is safe to travel at midnight in Addis on foot in Addis than D.C. To much freedom has negative consequences specially if those who handle news are irresponsible. Ethiopia's strength is its weakness as well. We have a diverse population and creating anarchy by feeding wrong information will result in the loss of ethnic based conflict. So the News man must be self censoring or be responsible but, what he writes results in ethnic or religious conflict that results in death and suffering he has to be responsible for his actions. Freedom comes with responsibility other wise why do we need law, courts,police and prisons. Even a car driver should not drink and drive and injure or kill some body he will pay for violating the law and harming others by his irresponsible action.
Ethiopians are glad that the country is becoming selfsuficent in food production and is on a positive track in meeting the basic needs of the majority of the people in the rural areas.
Last but not least at least 50% of the urban population is sterile, unemployed or under employed and is high times important to move to the land where one can be a productive citizen and not a burden to society.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 12:08

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Comment from: Kuku [Visitor]

Moa
well well what a wonderful insight.
it is perfectly true how the master donor nations of Ethiopia have all the power over who rules Ethiopia.
If they just picked up their phone and demanded the dictator of Ethiopia to leave immediately, he would follow their command. Instead of giving aid to dictatorships the donor masters were better of giving it straight to the people's pockets through agencies. Now the money is in the private account of TPLF agents. The donor masters should say we are aiding a dictatorship's bank account not the Ethiopian people.
Peace out.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 12:19

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

yirgacheffee and BELAW go to hell.
ye agame buchela.you guys are going
down with your child killer leader
prime monster meles.we ETHIOPIANS know who you guys are.you guys are
paid cadre of your master monster
meles.
MOT LE woyane.
ETHIOPIA WILL WIN.
DOWN WITH AGAME CADRES.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 12:52

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

paid cadre TIGRAY4EVER GO TO HELL
too bit**.CHE GUEVERA,god bless you man.you are a true son of ETHIOPIA.
LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA.
MOT LE woyane.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 13:00

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Comment from: dawit DB [Visitor]

The Python,

Yes,life is beautiful for Woyane cadres and their tribal members.

But for us, poor Ethiopians, pls keep praying for his grace .....till the judgment day come.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 13:50

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Comment from: Adem [Visitor]

As you all rightly noted terrorist Meles is in power only at the pleasure of the West. His state power, which he uses to terrorize the Ethiopian people, is only a phone call away from the Westerners. That is how close he is to the West and how far away he is from the Ethiopian people. The terrorist TPLF regime has never had any legitimacy before the Ethiopian people, whatsoever. The terrorist group is ruining the country at the gun point terrorizing the people day in and day out. In history there are moments when terrorist groups such as TPLF come to power. Taliban of Afghanistan pops up to mind as one of the recent ones as terrorist TPLF. The demise of the Soviet Union gave opportunity for these terrorist groups to take over state power from Soviet-backed (dependent) regimes. Once they control the state power, they continue to terrorize the people in order to stay in power. That is exactly what the terrorist TPLF has been doing all along. Of late, the Western media have started to expose what the Ethiopian people have known and have been saying all along since the terrorist group came to control the state power. They are telling the world the truth. We expect the other to follow suit. Truth is unknown in the terrorist TPLF camp. Truth is nauseating to woyanne and its minion supporters. They are also in a state of denial denying the obvious. It is downing on them and the time is coming up when denial alone will not serve them anymore. I would like to thank western journalists for speaking the truth and that in and of itself goes a long way. Better late than never. Adem

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 14:00

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Comment from: nengi [Visitor]

Eshetu Daba above,
you said "we know it all city dwellers that are being bombarded by 100's of tabloid news papers. They are freer to day to write or speak what they want to than the "Dixi Chicks" could.
The dixi chiks won eight awards. our journalists are languishing in prion. You see people dont go to prison for the things they write. Your mindless tribalism is working in your mind to justify murder. look if Meles gets his way we are all loosers your tribe included. Pleae have some sanity and acknowledge truth. You are not convincing anybody.

Your head myst be full of air. please stop using Oromo name we are now familiar with TPLF literature.

Try some intelegent way of supporting your ethnic criminal regime.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 14:15

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Comment from: Che Guevara [Visitor]

nengi [Visitor], On his behalf, thank you for reading and responding to ESHETU "DABA's" "comment??????". Because except you no one has ever read and responded to his verbose nonsense. "le isus man alew"? Besides guilt and disillusion because of his mental prostitution, that guy suffers from a chronic case of anxiety becuase of lack of attention and neglect on this site. BTW, I advise you not to spend your time and bother to respond to his nonsense. He has no point and no intelect. After all, what do you expect from a mental prostitute? Regards, Che

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 14:55

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Comment from: Satenaw [Visitor]

wake-up Tigres!!!

Meles Zenawi and His cousin Esayas Afwerki built their political carrier on the principle of disintegration of Ethiopia! It is not a position adopted over night; it was/is a life time project. The only question is, when do this die-hard, robotic, dull, and moronic tigrian followers will realize? The only reason TPLF is still around is because it was/is able to lie and cheat with the support of neo colonialists and the support of the tigres, who always get pleasure from serving their Eritrean masters and their superior cousin. We have seen the outcome of 2005 may election; it fell flat on its face in spite of intimidating and terrorizing the people of Ethiopia. We are now seeing its true nature and narrow minded tribalist reaction. Meles's tribal clique is in a daze as if on a powerful drug. The united people did not look for any particular tribe during May election - in spite of the fact there were the Bulchas, Merrars, Beyenes and the Wedi Hadgis.

Recently I got hold of Dawit wolde-gorigs’s book “Kihidet Be-Dem Meret. We were led to believe, that Hayelom Araya was a Tigrean hero. Dawit wolde giorgis is now telling US that Hyalom is a Shabia supporter & the son of Dejazmatch Araya of Hammessen-a full blooded Eritrean. The fact that he grew up in Shire did not change his loyalty to Eritrea and Shabia. So is Samora Yenus, the current chief of staff in the ministry of defence another full blooded Eritrean. (Of-course we all know Meles Zenawi is from Eritrea). My proposition is if the Tigrean enjoys so much to serve their masters, the Eritrean, why they don’t join together with Eritrea, (in the condition that they will be accepted in equal terms) leave Ethiopia for Ethiopians. It always baffles me why the tigreans take pleasure in being second-best. The locust mind of woyanne supporters think they are in charge of Ethiopia; the facts on the ground suggest they are just serving and defraud by their superior beings, the Eritreans.
Finally, if spies and mercenaries can liberate a nation, our Ethiopia will be the first. Tigres, please liven-up, you are the weakest link.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 15:03

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Comment from: Hammere [Visitor]

Never ever has Ethiopia seen a leader as brillant as MELES.

Come on CUDists, have the courage to call a spade is a spade. Meles is capable, vissionary and brilliant personality.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 15:25

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Comment from: anbesaw [Visitor]

DEAR WOYANY HUNTER.. BECARFUL U MAIGHET HUNT U SELF and get a trouble like u leade's . u know waht i'm talk'n about? W4life.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 15:26

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

TIGRAY4EVER(AGAME BUSH MAN)you are going to hell very soon with your master and agazi KILLERS.watch out
MORON AGAME.
ETHIOPIA WILL WIN.
AGAMES WILL GO DOWN.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 15:33

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Comment from: Teshale [Visitor]

By supporting terrorist woyanne, the Western power left the Ethiopian people alone and at the mercy of terrorist woyanne. We are left to our means and that is not bad per se. It is also a challenge we can turn to a good opportunity. By working hard and in harmony, we can get rid of this terrorist group and take back our country, free the people from TPLF terrorism, democratize and develop it. Ethiopia today is a prison house guarded by terrorist TPLF. The only difference among the prisoners (the Ethiopian people) is the length of the rope with which their legs and hands are tied up. The ropes are too short for some and just long enough for others to move around little. That is to mean those in cells and those outside the cells but still in the prison. We have to earn our way of the prison including winning over the west for our cause. AFD is expected to end this prison of terrorist TPLF and for that to happen it needs and deserves our support. Teshale

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 16:04

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Comment from: jaguwar [Visitor]

mjemriya hodachinen enumla, adelem egna democracy nen yemilu agroch lay esbawi negroch bemawekem balmawekem yefstemal yegna neger gen besem becha btewsenu atfiwoch ena tekma tekm ybelmedu dehawen eyaschohu yetkemubatal/yegodutal.
Peace!! long live Ethio hagere memkiya yehulu engda astnagaji.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 16:27

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Comment from: Tekleab WoldeNegodguwad [Visitor]

Meles HalfEritrawi is the best, why?

1- because he recognized Eritrea faster than any other nation?

2- because he sent Ethiopians into a war over Badme knowing full well the case would be decided in court anyway?

3- because he kills 200,000 infants a year due to malnoutrition?

4- because he does nothing to control the spread of Malaria, HIV AIDS and now CHOLERA?

5- because he devised an ethnic system which put him in the minority therefore denying the nation of any hope of democracy?

6- because he murdered 193 children, men and women and wounded 750 UNDER his watch?

7- because he imprisons, tortures and kills elected leaders of Ethiopians?

8- because he is a traitor, murderer, dictator, bloodthirsty moron? is that the reason? or is it because he plays childish games?

or

is it his looks which remind one of an overgrown frog?

WHICH IS IT?

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 16:31

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

ANBESAW(YENEGABET YE WOYANE JE

SHUT UP YOUR STINKY AGAME MOUTH.
you are not ethiopian.i am.
no matter what you and your leba agames are saying ethiopia will win.
LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 16:39

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Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]

I wonder what is the extent of hate & fear EPRDF harbors towards the common Ethiopian to blindly and arrogantly believe that it can sustain itself on power forever against the will of the Ethiopian people!

No amount of political & economic prostitution to the West, the East, the North or the South will allow it to escape the wrath of the real stakeholders: Ethiopians.

EPRDF is doing its best to sell Ethiopiawinet to the highest bidder till that time when Ethiopians will reclaim what is theirs: Ethiopia!

Have you guys read the latest posting on Ethiomedia: For me, the most amazing part of these notes is that Meles was doing his best to convince outsiders that all is well while he had only complete disdain to show for his own people (a long rope?!).

A question for you guys: Who is ruling Ethiopia? On whose mandate ? On what basis of legitimacy? Are we still a free and independent country?

Sovereignty: what was this again?!

Shame! Shame! Shame!

Ra

PS: My above fuming comment have been cooled by what I discovered at this link... well maybe it's not all black or white, or is it?

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 16:59

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Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]

source

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 17:50

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Comment from: Tessema [Visitor]

LET US REASON TOGETHER THE WEST DOES NOT CARE.

I thank this blog for this form to let us exchange our views regarding our country.

THESE ARE OUR DIFFERENCES

1.Some of us see the same thing others see other things.Some of us consider the goverement is dictatorial others say it is democratic.

2.Some of us say human right is violated others say those who say their right is violated are criminals and do not have any right they deserve to be killed,tortured and detained indefinately.

3.We say inocent people are massacred other say there is no massacre these people deserve to be killed .

4.Some of us say there is no justice in the country othere say there is justice and independent court in the country.

5.Some say there is no free press in the country other say there is a press nevere seen before.

6.We say there is no fuctioning parlament other say the parlament is doing protecting the balance of power.

7.When we say there is corupption other say there is accountability
in the goverement.

8.When we say there is economic decline other say the economy and the people standered of living rising.

9.Some say the election is stolen other say it was fair,transparent and overseen by independent electrorial board.

WHY IS THESE BIG DIFFERENCE AND POLORIZATION

I will responde to these question in civilized way .Truth does not have color the truth can not be grey for one and blue for others ,truth does not have a limit or geographical boundary,it is the same with white man or a black man.It is the same for a jew,christian,muslim or a pagan.It is universal it is the standered human being fuction it comes from God it is common to budisin tibet,hindu in india and muslim in bangladesh.

Let me remined a few

KILLING INOCENT PEOPLE IS WRONG

INJUSTICE IS INJUSTICE WHERE EVERE IT OCCUR

A LIE IS A LIE WHO EVRE DOSE IT.

CORUPPTON IS CORUPPTION IT IS WRONG

DICTATORSHIP IS DECTOTORSHIP IT IS EVIL
DECIET IS DECITE WHERE EVRE IT IS DONE

Have seen all in Ethiopian politics
where is the military,where is the pope where is priest,whre is the Imam .

I WANT TO SAY THESE WITH OUT BEING HATE FUL

The country has been in down word decline since TPLF/MELESE/AGAME
MAFIA GANG.

LET GOD SAVE ETHIOPIA

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 17:55

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

thank you for the photos.
GOOD BLESS YOU.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 18:08

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Comment from: Yirgacheffeeይርጋጨፍ [Visitor]

Nice pictures!

I must say, that is a nice building that the Federal Polie just built!

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 18:50

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Comment from: Tekleab WoldeNegodguwad [Visitor]

Brother Ra'Oiel:

you are an educated and erudite member of this forum. I appreciate your posts as much as I appreciate Gundan's, Che Guevera's, Choice's, Challenger's, Satenaw's and other great Ethiopians who frequent this forum.

This is by no means to choose for you what to think nor is this by any means meant to think for you for I believe you can teach me more than I can even begin to understand.

This is a suggestion from my observation. I believe what Gundan did yesterday is what should happen immediately and without any doubt across the board. Gundan has made the pledge that whatever the case, he will see to it that WOyane is destoryed as long as he is alive.

This realisation is not a simple realisation. It takes us, all of us some time because we somehow are under the wrong impression the people who cheer for Woyane are after all Ethiopians and should be givn the benefit of the doubt.

This is not the case. The isssue is, BLACK and WHITE. It has been my observation that ALL ETHIOPIANS with the exception of the few brain washed Woyane cadres...will AT ONE POINT in time realise that WOYANE is through and through EVIL.

If we are ever to see a change, this basic principle should be the starting point. I have seen it, Gundan has seen it, others have seen it .... there is EVIL lurking under that name - WOYANE. And this realisation quickly, and by all of us will accelerate its journey to its final resting place.

SO, I PLEAD WITH YOU, NOT OUT OF ANY SENSE OF PATRONIZATION, BUT OUT OF GREAT RESPECT THAT YOU NOT GIVE THIS "EVIL" THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
___________________________________

March 5

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 19:21

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Comment from: Yonas Tibebe [Visitor]

The question is not whether Ethiopia has an effective military. It does and has had one for a while. The question is whether that military power will be used to protect the country's integrity and not to repress its own citizens. Meles claims he is building "institutions" but he instead is acting more and more like a dictator. The quanadrum for Western countries is that they do not too many good options, Meles is smart, he has them cornered and is using his own people as a bargaining chip.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 21:21

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Comment from: dud [Visitor]

just one simple question for Tigray4Ever

u asked "Have you then imagined how dreadful it would be Ethiopia to be led by such people"
That is what Mengistu said on his last speah, with a desperate voice. What is hurting us most is not the leaders ability or inability. They are not choosen or elected therefor they will do any evil thing to stay in power.
The time for the end of Meles is coming, the is not because he is dummy or smart but he is trying to controll evrything and he knows that that is very dangerous.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 21:51

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Comment from: lekim [Visitor]

“EPRDF is doing its best to sell Ethiopiawinet to the highest bidder till that time when Ethiopians will reclaim what is theirs”

My friend Ra'Oeil ራዕይ, these pictures remind me of my first infatuation with the “V” sign, clad in army shorts barley hanging onto my AK47 when fully engaged. But here I see a bunch of illiterate tribal idiots who can’t even articulate the meaning of the very symbol they seem to be in love with.
My friend Ra'Oeil ራዕይ, what is “Ethiopiawinet” to you? We are all stakeholders in our homes & birthplaces and I am sure you understand no one has a right to impose their wishes onto others. Guess who hounded and menaced Ethiopians in their homes for over a century? Is that the “Ethiopiawinet” you are talking about? My friend, the skies can collapse and the sun can blow up into gazillion mini stars to usher in an eternal darkness, but never again shall we let your village idiots rule in our homes.
There is a hardwired gene in the family tree, always on guard for bandits like you.

Cheers pal

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 22:01

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Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]

Gebre Medhin,

I love you man. You said it all. Time for Meles (Tigre) to step down, and be replaced by either Abay (Tigre), or Seyoum (Tigre). And who makes the suggestion, Gebre Medhin (Tigre). You guys are completely out of touch. It reminds me the senility of Haile Selassie's officials in the last two years of his reign. KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

End the occupation NOW.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 22:47

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Comment from: Eshetu Daba [Visitor]

gengi
You have no certitude or clearance and have no faculty to furnish any cognition and your comment ought to be perfectly inadmissible, because you are the slave of a slave Mengistu the despotic facist, no you are the type that could go as far as the mad dog Hitler, thank God you can't convience a parrot to ape you.
If you be a nice boy and be learnable The Dixi Chix did suffer a heavey financial loss. Their only offense was that when Bush's went to war against Iraq, they were in London and they were asked what they fill about the war in Iraq. Their lead singer answered that she is even more ashamed for being from the same state as he is. Country music consumers hill bellies like you got mad and descided not to buy ther music,dumped and broke their CD and the country radio stations boycotted to play the music of the dixi chix. If you can't stad the heat get out of the kitchen or else you will end up in a mental institution, lost for all eternity.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 22:48

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

When Hollywood made the movie, "Spartacus" in the mid-sixty, they used only 2000 students as extra but we as the spectators we noticed about 200,000 slaves marching against Rome. They used mirrors to multiply the multitude.

So, imagine what can be achieved in this time of advance technology. Big deal. Even if for real 200,000 "Serafet Chullo" came out from their hiding it means absolutely nothing. Instead of spending money on that cheap T-shirt they should have bought nice bread to eat instead of their rotten kolo.

Permalink 02/23/07 @ 23:35

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Comment from: Thunder [Visitor]

Wozeiro Condjo:

When Haile was on power, you were for the king. When Mengistu was on power, you were for “Ethiopia Tikdem”. Now that the hated illegitimate woyannes are terrorizing the nation, you are with the “Butcher”.

You are just one wicked harlot.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 01:00

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Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]

"Instead of spending money on that cheap T-shirt they should have bought nice bread to eat instead of their rotten kolo." Arogit,

Woizero Stupid,

what is "nice bread" and what is "rotten kolo"? you are the first who is getting dumper by the days. there is no such a thing called rotten kolo and you are not making any sense at all. Man can not live only with a bread, s/he needs his freedom as well. Knowing that, the thousands you can see on the picture are demanding for it. I know all you care is satisfying your food desire, and you can do anything including insulting & degrading Ethiopian sisters and supporting a regime which is murdering mothers and babies........all to keep filling your approximatelly century old belly. Hodam!

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 02:45

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Comment from: abera demeksa [Visitor]

All this bad-mouthing of the government by bozenays does not mean a thing. You are wasting your time. What you say does not register anywhere. Serious people have better sources of information than you, Washington D.C. slum-bandas and worse!

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 04:50

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Comment from: abera demeksa [Visitor]

Who said Ethiopia was repressive? The bandas of Washington D.C.? Give me a break!

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 04:52

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

Thunder

"When Haile was on power, you were for the king"

NEVER. - I never had any respect for your mini-size Negus.

Mengustu, yes. Two years into the revolution, he was doing marvellous thing for Ethiopia, till some bloodthirsty greedy and opportunist who belong to your tribe came and destroy the essence of the revolution.

Meles, I have no problem with him. Some how his policy of dividing Ethiopia into ethnic lines had empowered some of us. and the country is improving economically. Like I said before so many times, I am not from Tigray ethnic group - but when I see Ethiopia (minus your greedy and selfish tribe) on the right path, I will recognize and cheer Meles administration. The only thing that I reproach his regime is that they are too cozy with the Americans. Ethiopia should be a neutral country. and also 15 or 16 years at the helms of the country is a bit too long; so if Meles relinquish his power to someone from Harargue of Muslim background, it would be very interesting to see real democracy playing in our country.
But I am very adamant about one thing. Your tribe should ot be on power for another 1000 years. You got your chance and blew it big time. So you guys are punish.
Once again - We are all entitled to our opinion.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 05:20

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

free,

"what is "nice bread" and what is "rotten kolo"? "

FYI: nice bread means fresh crisp bread that you cannot afford. And "rotten Kolo" only means Kolo that have been there for over one or two years.
Capish?

By now, you guys should realize that I am from Harargue born and raised. And let me remind you that when confronted by bullies of your tribe, WE, the beautiful, colourful and very smart women of Harargue, are NOT shrinking violet.

For everything you put outside in the universe, that is what you will be receiving. If civility is not the norms of your unrefined tribe. please do not expect the rest of us to be polite. The Morocans have a saying, "Kif-kif"

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 05:52

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Comment from: tafesse [Visitor]

Yes, yes, yes, we have got the message. First, i.e. in 1993, a certain Asrat Woldeyes, allegedly a doctor, but perhaps more familiar with the medico-magic of the Rasta Palace, refused to attend the negotiations of forming a transitional government. Why? Because there was no point nor profit in ruling a totally delapidated and war ravaged country with less than a million in the banks or even less in communal coffers. Who wants to be the king of lepers and beggars, because that was the only legacy of the Derg, the heritage of the tribal patriarchs who by that time were beyond reach, nursing the millions they had stolen in the confusion. So, it was a smart way for Asrat to shirk such a heavy duty. His next step was to start the AAPO, now long demised and replaced by CUD & co., yet another hodge podge soon to close down. These are all left overs and appendages of the despicable legend of the Solomonian legend, which might sound harmless as far as legends go, but has turned out to be a deadly poison for Ethiopia. The thought behind it is illogical and what I would call GURAMAILE, because it picks certain emperors discaarding others, all based on tribal affiliations. Believe it or not, this is the theory is trying to promote.
The answer is simple. Ethiopians have answered go to hell. The next step taken by these deplorable elements of the tribal hoard was to wait until fruit ripens so they can pick the fruits for their exclusive benefit. EPRDF took it upon itself to rebuild the country from a scratch and now that they can see the country blossoming, their mouths are filled with water, why they took part in the elections, something they formerly were not willing to because they meant it was not democratic enough for them to soil their fingers. Now they can see the big apple shinning, they just couldn't resist the temptation. Fire might look attractive from a distance but if you get too close to it and you have neither a programme nor any inkling of how to solve the problems of the country, then playing with fire might result in tragic consequences.
CUD has used all the tricks in the dirty books of the department of dirty tricks Gobeze, Gomes et al, all in vain. They have tried the sabotage-foreign-aid card which turned out to be counter productive. They have tried the mud throwing game. The backlash was harder than they could swallow. And now that CUD is falling apart, all they have left in their venemous arsenal is pure, unudulterated hatred of Tigray and the support Ethiopia's arch enemies, Eritrea and Somalia. Marching in the streets of Europe and the US has born bitter fruits, that of frustration and depression. CUD is now mature for psychiatric assistance.
It is interesting to note Nazret.com has focused on this rather doubtful article of the Economist, which we hope is for purely journalistic motives that seems to be shared with Eritrea Daily, that also has reverberated the artical as a triumphal laurel crown.
Meanwhile, let us not forget that I am of the opinion CUD must be destroyed.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 07:31

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Comment from: Yeha [Visitor]

Mr franch boy Ra'Oeil ራዕይ the all times human right representative nice picture.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 08:10

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

free,

dumper????
My english is very limited, what did you want to say exactly.

"Man can not live only with a bread, s/he needs his freedom as well"

Oh yeah?? So where did this enlightment came from and WHEN? And how it was not applied when your menelik and haile were raping the Oromos from their land, culture and identity? Or is it OK if it is done by your f.. tribe??

Please don't give me this crap that because some Kinijit anarchists are incarcerated that the rest of your tribe don't enjoy their freedom. Go to Addis and your will see how some of your own tribe that have entrepreneurial mind are successful and live a very lavish lifestyle. If the majority of you guys are still stirring "shirro" it has nothing to do with Meles. It is because of your Lazy attitude.

Get up from your ass and be involved in changing Ethiopia for the better.

You know even worms go through metamorphosis and turned into beautiful butterfly. That is the reason I keep insisting that you guys are maggot. You will never change into something better. You are always larva and remain the same for the rest of your life. Same crap mentality, Machiavelic mind to dupe people. Hello! it is 2007 and believe me the rest of Ethiopians have open their eyes and we have the capacity to judge what is good and what is not good.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 12:08

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Comment from: Kuku [Visitor]

Woyane hunter
I am loving you so much.
I love your nick name so much.
What a wonderful one. Woyanes will not go one with their terrorist activities against Ethiopia. The west will turn its back on them soon. We will see.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 12:11

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

Thank you,KUKU for your great comment.ETHIOPIANS like you make me proud,i am ETHIOPIAN.to tell you the truth i love EMAMA ETHIOPIA more
than anything.i will do whatever to save her.even if it cost me my dear life.woyanes are nothing but a bunch of criminals waiting to be captured by us of course ETHIOPIANS.
at the moment i am not in our country but i will tell you this i will not go to sleep until all woyanes are removed from power and punished for what they did to our
mother ETHIOPIA.
kuku i love you very very much dear.
KINIJIT is our future.
GOD BLESS ETHIOPIA.
ETHIOPIA WILL BE FREE SOON.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 13:45

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Comment from: ፊታውራሪ Free [Member]

Woizero Stupid,

I have read both your postings and found nothing but the same old rhetoric filled with your tribe, your king, blah blah...the same boring old song. Emama Arogit, I have asked you many times and i will repeat it today: Can you please talk to me? I am not Haile, I am not Minilik, and i am not anyone from the past hence your attempt to justify todays attrocites with the past does not make sense to me. You know what you are saying is whatever wrongs we do at this moments, they can be justified with the wrongs of the past committed by other groups. Today is our time to oppress, abuse, mismanage and destroy Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Look, the beauty of butterfulies is not only for themselves, it is for all, for the environment they live in.....then where is your colourful butterfly beauty, enlightment, happiness and love that can make the place you are living warmer, brighter and peaceful for all? Arent you a woyane responsible for all the miseries Ethiopians have to go through in the past 16 years? Arent you creating hopeless, hateful, divided, and vengeful generation that endangers and darkens the future of Ethiopia as a country? Are those attributes of enlightened person who resembles the metamorphosis of worms to become beautiful butterfulies? Arent those traits of maggotic and barbaric sub humans? Who pass judgement upon me based on only the wrongs of my great grand parents, Who insults the whole society for the wrongs of few individuals, who have no sympathy for female Ethiopians who have been suffering the oppression and miseries their rulers brought to them?(what struck me the most is that you are female too) You keep saying your tribe, your tribe...I have no tribe! A+B+C+D can not be equal to A or B or C or D given all the four variables are non zero numbers. Beside, the tribe of this age you are opening your mouth 24/7 has nothing to do with the past, atleast you should realize that they are entitled to live their own life with out being judged for things they are not responsible in any form. Now think about who is still living the darkness of maggotic stage, me or you?

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 14:03

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Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]

For those who are still singing the same old songs over and over again like a broken record forgetting that time has changed and that the alleged freedom fighters of yesterday are today's oppressors, check this out, it might help you refresh your memory.

Meles back then with Arkebe.

Meles Today!

A "leader" who is accountable to foreigners and is doing everything to convince them that he is their best hope for fullfilling their interests while subjugeting his own people to untold misery, suffering and mockery (long rope?!) is at best a dictator and at worst a tool for 21st century indirect colonization and desintegration: that, my friend lekim, is selling your country, people and soul. That's what I call "selling Ethiopiawinet to the highest bidder".

Why so many fail to see the larger and clearer picture that, more than Menelik's palace, what is at stake here is our existence as a sovereign & independant country?!

Why are you so blinded to acknowledge that denying people their God given rights will only lead to more foreign and opportunistic meddling that has nothing to do with our people's initial and legitimate aspirations?

"Guerguer le leba Yemetchal"

"Djoro Yalew Yissma"

Ra

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 16:36

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Comment from: tman [Visitor]

As old the saying goes, “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king” Don’t let your dumbass woyanee fans inflate your ego. They don’t know any better. The ability to string sentences together doesn’t make you special, idiot. What counts is an ability to reason which you sorely lack my friend. Instead of panicking every time you see “V”, questions why you’re so detested. You’re knee-jerk reaction is reaching for your AK-47, moron. Your lies have become unsustainable, extreme repression is what’s keeping you in power …temporarily, I might add. The world knows what you are, here is a sample,

“The Ethiopian government claims that the elections demonstrate its commitment to democratic principles. But in the run-up to the elections, the authorities have intensified the repression they have used to keep themselves in power for 13 years.“

Peter Takirambudde
Executive director of Human Rights Watch’s Africa Division

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 17:05

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Comment from: Taiger-76 [Visitor]

Netsanet-one,
the poor poeple of Ethiopia needs ring-bread than ring-road.so think twoways!!!

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 17:15

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Comment from: tman [Visitor]

above comment was for Lekim the wind-bag

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 21:44

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Comment from: solomon [Visitor]

the west they care but own interest
period especially w. bush.
we have to solve our problems by
organize ethiopian people fight back
and pressure meles to negotiates the
oppositon party leaders by peace.

let stand together let defeat the child murders tplf the evil groups
god bless our heroes.

Permalink 02/24/07 @ 21:56

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Comment from: omo [Visitor]

Nobody is against economic development of Ethiopia. If this is really happening today as some people try to tell us, we are ready to applaud for the success. But I believe that there will never be sustained economic growth in the absence of democracy, which paves the way for the participation of the whole society. The pillar on which India developed its economy and has succeeded is democracy. Democracy will bring peace, and peace will bring harmony and economic growth.
The West sometimes believes that what a third world country like ours needs is first of all bread and then democracy. Also, patriotic dictators (if there are any) can bring about the first of the two. Even if we consent to this theory, M. Zenawi has proved on many occasions that he is not a patriot in a strict sense of the word (e.g, the Ethiopian flag is a peace of rug, if it is not my way Ethiopia is not meant to be, allowing shabia to rape Ethiopia, handing over the port of Assab, ethnic politics, turning Ethiopia in to a prison camp etc). He is no doubt the second, ie. A dictator.
M. Zenawi and the TPLF party alone can not save Ethiopia, even if they have such a holy aspiration, which I doubt . The whole of the Ethiopian society must participate in building democracy and economic growth. Full participation of the opposition should be guaranteed. Fake accusations such as genocide and treason must stop.
Finally the unholy alliance of some opposition movement with the sworn enemy of Ethiopia, ie the government of Eritrea, should stop immediately, if they are going to have any relevance in the future.

Permalink 02/25/07 @ 02:52

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

OMO,

"handing over the port of Assab"
Very true that was one of the biggest mistake from Meles Governmnent. NOT because he handled the port and its vicinity to Erythrea but he could have bargain very hard with the Afars population.

When that happened I was wondering where Meles was standing - if he is acting pro or against Ethiopia. Till someone advised me to go to Italian war museum to study the map of the world before the colonial empire scramble the african continent. And I was still not convinced with the map and someone advised me to consult with the elders of the Afars and here was the enigma. They (the Afars) were duped big time by the League of Arabs who told to these Afars that since Ethiopia represents itself as a christian country, the Afars have the right to determine their status and join Erythrea for the time being and eventually they will be given on a silver platter their autonomy and "independence" I believe they will be waiting for another 100 years to get their aride land from the grip of Issayas. The plot behind this scam is the current Ruler of Dubai and the president of Djibouti when they came in accordance to develop the port of Djibouti and kill the port of Assab where during the Mengustu time, it was vital for Ethiopian commerce.
But in Buddhist religion there is such thing as "karma" Their plan did not work well, because most of the contraband to Ethiopia come from the port of Harguesa in Somaliland. The port of Djibouti is used only for few legit business. And we both know that contraband is huge in Ethiopia. By the same process, when contraband shifted its route, it killed the city of Diredawa from its lifeblood and brought prominence to the city of Kombolsha. So, My dear Omo, Meles is not to be blamed on this.

Maybe, it is also the bad karma of your negus when he bought the vote in order for erythrea to join Ethiopia during the referendum; instead of letting the erythreans to choose the path they wanted he duped them and annexed that country to Ethiopia and everyone suffered that miscalculated event.

Then you proceed with, "The pillar on which India developed its economy and has succeeded is democracy"

Very true, that India is known for its democracy but you have to live there that it is not so. India as you know is divided into 5 cast systems. The elite being the Brahman, Kshakriya and the majority if not the entire top government come from these two elite cast systems and once in while from the third cast the Vaishya and maybe once in a blue moon someone from Shudra the fourth cast that represent the labor force such are farmers and artisans. Have you ever hear someone from the fifth cast leading the governmnent;
FTY the 5th cast represents the "untouchable" the one who are at the lowest of their social strata. And in the cast systems they know their past "karma" had caused them this lower social status in this life time. And everyone knows his or her own place in society. If you call this a real democracy, my friend you are entitled to your opinion. I just hope you don't think that the tribe of gundan and santenaw (by the way, the administrator does not let me spell it for you) should always have the hegemony and the rest that have to be subjugate forever.

Permalink 02/25/07 @ 12:28

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Comment from: dawit DB [Visitor]

Woeizoro Condojo,

Do you understand what 'Free' said to you ?
You've been sitting on your bad ass more than a century, obviously doing nothing except complaining Menilik, Haile and so on.

Your time is over, you are history..
you shouldv'e been displayed in the tribal Museume rather than talking about'Shirro, Kolo,bead,I'm from Harargue born and raised, and so on.....'a simple question for you do you know a person who born and raised without any specific place? even Melese has a place in his heart..Eritrea.

I can't imagine how Ethiopia would move to the new millennium with a narrow minded tribalism like you and a malignant cancer like Meles.

This new generation is fighting for big noble ideas..democracy,human right, justice, good governance, press and economic fredom and so on..

Permalink 02/25/07 @ 13:01

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Comment from: Shewarega [Visitor]

Madame Conjo,

You are right on most of what you said. But for fairness sake remember that "the Negus" entered Eritrea without firing a shot. He cut the ribbon at Mereb, and there were thousands and thousands of Eritreans beating their drums, singing "Habzio, Habzio" all the way to Asmara. Unlike our current rulers, he was also being driven on open motorcade, with thousands watching him. For what happened after that, for the deceitful way Eritrea secceeded without a say from the Ethiopian people, for how Ethiopians have been turned into strangers in the land where their forefathers bled for centuries. For how Eritreans like Bereket and Meles torture us disguised as Ethiopians, the future I think is very bleak. Because it is a natural reaction of human beings to resist intruders. Especially those bent on destroying them.

End the occupation now

Permalink 02/25/07 @ 13:17

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Comment from: Wozeiro Condjo [Visitor]

Shewarega,
In my opinion instead of rushing and buying the vote of the erytreans, the Negus should have let both the muslims and the christian erythreans eat each other and at the end offer the olive branch to the winning party. Unfortunately, out of greed and imperial ambitional expansion he bought the vote. And out of retalliation the muslims went to Cairo and started the movement to recede from Ethiopia.
I don't know what is the big deal about erytrea for the tribe of gundan. They aleways blame ameles for that. They keep on forgetting that the movement to be separated from the rest of Ethiopia was undergoing since the 60'. Meles has nothing to do with it. Our Northern neighbor has been and will always be a thorn in our throat. Why give so much importance to an aride land. It is very true, Haile spent so much money educating their young and even most of foreign scholarship went to them than any other tribe.
For once we have to close that sad and exhausting chapter of our life and move on; Ethiopia has more better prospect for the future than this godforgotten land of erythrea. But for us to move on, the tribe of gundan and santenaw has to come to term that Tigray does not mean erythrea. The only denomination between the two is the language they share. Tigray has been and will always remain the core of Ethiopian civilization. If you guys (Tigray and gundan tribe) don't get along by the way you guys share so much - religion, history, culture such as food and clothing- what do you expect from the rest of us. We have nothing in common. And you expect us to form a united front? for what? we have nothing in common.
We don't share the same history, culturally we are poles apart. We have no common ground than phantom concept of being "ethiopian". Ponder on this phrase written by Salvador de Madariaga, " Not even history, geography, religion, language and a common will are enough to constitute a nation. A "Nation" is a psychological fact.
Instead of trying to change others, I recommand that the tribe of gundan and that maggot of santenaw to change their mentality. AND only then we can vision together some kind of harmonious country.
You guys keep on bringing Meles in every posting. Meles is just one individual, why the whole Tigray has to be a pariah province because of only single person?
And another point that you guys keep on forgetting is the fact that Meles did not overthrow Mengustu. He was chosen and ushered by the US to replace Mengue.

Permalink 02/25/07 @ 20:32

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Permalink 02/25/07 @ 20:33

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Comment from: thebliss [Visitor]

Eshetu Daba
Neither Fox nor CNN ever prevented the 'Dixie Chicks' from freedom of expression. The backlash instead came from thier fan base. It was the 'people' who bought their records who chose to give them the boot. This is true freedom of expression, it does not mean freedom from consequences.

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 00:54

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Comment from: chaltu [Visitor]

The credible and widely read Economist has told the current situation of Ethiopia as it is.

To the shameful weyane firfari lekakami bandas who are hiding behind the names of respectable Amharas and Oromos, I say, the patriotic Ethiopians will free themselves from parasites like Meles and yourselves in the very near future. Lehacham hodam, wurinchila hula, you don't deserve to call yourselves Ethiopians.

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 07:12

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Comment from: Visitor [Visitor]

Hello everybody!

I think we have to give chance for meles in order to work for our country and his country. His country is our country. You have to understand this!!!

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 09:13

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Comment from: sora [Visitor]

As far as the Eritrean government and Meles’s government working together to disintegrate and destroy Ethiopia this is completely false. I don’t know how many times I’ll say it but I’ll continue until you people get it. Eritrea’s government doesn’t work with Meles’ government and that’s why the Eritrean government is working tirelessly to get rid of Meles and his goons. Meles is implementing the lessons he learned from Haile Selassie and Menghistu. All 3 men used the West to supply them with money (aid) and military weapons. All three were smart enough to develop their people or country somehow even though they may have destroyed the lives of others within the country (and outside). So Meles is no worse or no better than his predecessors. It’s a disease called African politics.
As far as SHEWAREGA AND WOZEIRO CONDJO’s comments on Eritrea, Asseb and Haile Selassie. I commend Wozeiro Condjo, you’re the first Ethiopian to actually have some sort of true knowledge about the situation (whether the agreement with the Afars and the League of Arabs is actually true or not I can not comment. I’ve never heard of it). The fact that you did not stop at “Asseb belongs to Ethiopia period” shows you’re a little bit higher on the intellectual level compared to MANY on this site. SHEWAREGA as far as thousands of Eritreans beating their drums and rejoicing the integration with Ethiopia, they were mainly from the Tigrinya ethnic group who has historical, cultural and linguistic ties with certain ethnic groups of Ethiopia. Don’t mistake this as the whole population of Eritrea being for the federation. Also, those who rejoiced feared being overrun by the muslims in Eritrea, but they later realized their mistake and fought alongside their muslim brothers and sisters. As far as a deceitful Eritrean secession there’s no such thing. But we can talk about the deceitful way Haile Selassie federated Eritrea and then striped Eritrea of it’s democracy and ILLEGALLY annexed Eritrea. As far as Eritreans (excluding Bereket and Meles—they are not Eritrean) torturing Ethiopians, there’s no such thing. But we can talk about how Haile Selassie and Menghistu tortured Eritreans for no reason but because they wanted their god given right of being free to lead themselves

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 10:41

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Comment from: Mazash [Visitor]

Ra,

I have a title for your pictures: "the freedom fighter who sold his soul for a blue suit".

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 11:27

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

Ra,the above picture we are looking
at probably was taken after they rob
one of ETHIOPIAN bank.at that time they didn't have money to buy A nice cloth to wear.
ETHIOPIA WILL WIN.

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 13:28

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Comment from: Ra'Oeil ራዕይ [Member]

I hear you Dear Mazash!
woyane hunter, how did you let this happen ? lol
Ra

Permalink 02/26/07 @ 19:08

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Comment from: woyane hunter [Visitor]

Ra,my dear brother i was not in our
country at the time when woyanes rob our money from our ethiopian bank.i left our country mother
ethiopia more than two decades ago.
don't worry i will capture them and bring them to the ETHIOPIAN LIONS very shortly.
ETHIOPIA WILL LIVE FOREVER.
MOT LEwoyane.

Permalink 02/27/07 @ 12:35

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Comment from: gundan [Member]

“….clad in army shorts barley hanging onto my AK47…”…lekim

Dear lekim:
We really don’t need a graphic description of your early childhood. We have already figured out that you were abducted in early childhood by the TPLF warlords from your parents hut in Tigrai and saddled with an AK47 and trained to kill. Please stop being sorry for your self. Africa has millions and millions of child soldiers like yourself and please stop into deluding yourself that you were the only brave soul to brandish an AK-47 at an early age. We totally commiserate with you and those like you. However one thing we will not stand for is, your glorification of this childhood traumatic experience, as if this was the best thing that ever happened to you in all of your miserable life. We all know that you have been indoctrinated to loathe and hate yourself and the history of your own country and you have shown us in your postings that you are a good graduate of the of the TPLF hate school. Death to TPLF and their child soldiers!

Cheers,

-Gundan

Permalink 02/27/07 @ 17:56

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Comment from: lekim [Visitor]

Gundan, most of the brave boys and girls never made it to home at the end of it my friend and obviously I am not one of them. However, let me say that I had the pleasure of knowing and spending plenty of time with them and I can pick up my dusty kirar once in a while, hum, grunt and sing “ Aday Hawzen aday….demki feseesu mis wehaze ..” in memory of their immense sacrifice. My friend do you love your country as much as they did? I doubt it and I am willing to stick out my neck and say that you don’t even have the human dignity to utter their names. You are talking about a generation who left you in the dust and made history. Perhaps they left a permanent mark on your royal rear end for everyone too see. Cheers my friend

Permalink 02/27/07 @ 18:34

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Comment from: Mazash [Visitor]

Dear Gundan,

I think you know very well Lekim thanks to his postings. Another clue, his wife speaks French. You have all the pieces of the puzzle. Good luck!

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