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Would You Stop Aid to Ethiopia?

06/24/10

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Would You Stop Aid to Ethiopia?

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Would You Stop Aid to Ethiopia?

What do you do when aid to the poor is working, but the country delivering the aid is run by what is considered to be a repressive regime? Do you stop giving development aid? Helen Epstein, a contributor to the New York Review of Books, engaged in such a discussion with Ken Ohashi, the World Bank Country Director for Ethiopia. With whom do you agree? Share your views here:

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The exchange between Helen Epstein and my colleague Ken Ohashi about the role of aid donors in “subsidizing” what Epstein calls a politically repressive regime highlights the difficulty in linking politics at the top with poverty alleviation on the ground.

Even politically open regimes, such as India, have difficulty delivering basic services to poor people—the absence rate for teachers in Indian public primary schools is 25 percent; the rate for doctors in public primary clinics is 40 percent. Conversely, as Epstein points out in her reply to Ken’s letter, “poverty and disease have fallen sharply in some repressive societies, from Cuba to China…”

The reason it is difficult to develop a clear link is that the delivery of basic services such as health or education requires that the service provider be accountable, either to the policymaker at the next highest level or, if the latter is not well-intentioned, to the beneficiary of the service, typically a poor person.

Ethiopia has done well in reducing poverty and child mortality, and increasing primary completion rates because their system of delivering basic services has various elements of this accountability built in. Local districts receive resources based on clear, data-driven formulae that can be independently verified (by third-party civil society groups). The allocation of these resources within the district is decided in community meetings, with the final budget posted on a central bulletin board for the community to see. These service delivery innovations were supported by the donors precisely because they have been shown to work in other countries, a point that seems to have eluded Aid Watch.

Needless to say, the accountability mechanisms in Ethiopia’s “Protecting Basic Services” program are not perfect, and much more needs to be done. When visiting one of the districts, I asked to see the bulletin board where the district’s budget had been posted. It was a piece of wood nailed to a tree, and the budget had been washed out by the rain.

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msg Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
Aid to the corrupt oppressive regime of ethnic federalism must stop. All foreign aid to Ethiopia should be channeled through the specialized agencies of the United Nations utilizing Ethiopian Patriots who are dedicated to the love of country and their Emperor. The Sovereign must be protected otherwise Ethiopians will continue to flee their motherland because their fundamental liberties and human rights have been abused.
Every Ethiopian family is entitled to a Gasha of freehold land to be past down from generation to generation, education in modern agricultural techniques and tools needed for its development would create an atmosphere of self-sufficiency rather than the poverty of corrupt military oppression of the past 35 years.
"It is trite to observe that unless the riches of the world are somehow made to reach the peoples in developing countries the consequences for mankind would be quite as catastrophic as the results of a nuclear conflict. Surely it is not beyond human enginuity to correct this appalling situation, by instituting measures which would enable developing countries to attain a more tolerable standard of life for their peoples." HIM Negus Haile Selassie
Long Live the Constitutional Monarchy!
Long Live the Kebra Negast!
Gasha for Ethiopians!
Fire burn down the witchcraft star of secession
Rise with the Lion of Judah!
Long Live Independent Ethiopia!
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 07:27

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msg Comment from: weyanew [Visitor]
Dear Editor
From what have seen the source (blog) put the title differently that the one you have on. It seems to me are creating new title that suits your political agenda. As they say “mamo lela metawekiaw lele” you run your interest, I run my interest, the westerns run their interest; where do you think we’ll end up if we going in this rate.

[Actually, that is the title given by the author in the email we received]
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 08:46

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msg Comment from: c´moi senait [Visitor]
WE the true pure ethiopia DO NOT NEED a HAND OUT. ''WE don´t Need Your begger org. in our ethiopia.

Get out of ethiopia. If it was not for Weyannes BEGER self made govt, ethiopia could have achived in self feeding. THESE BEGGERS are distroying the ethiopian NAME.
When we take over the power,then These BEgger org. will be history couse WE the true ethiopia THROW OUT all these begger out of ethiopia forever. And to weyannes beggers,You all END up in SUDAN refugges camp collecting the Redcros,Oxfam and Usaid food in that dusty and full of fly camps. You will NEVER put your dirty begger feet in our ethiopia soil. You will be VANISH like a dust from planet Earth and Ethiopia will rise up again.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 08:50

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msg Comment from: M.J Tyson [Visitor]
"Ethiopia has done well in reducing poverty and child mortality, and increasing primary completion rates" this is what matters who care if the power hungry politicians are oppressed.

This county has been the victim of poverty, malnutrition, famine, chaos and endless misery its time the for those who achieved the imposable, using only the resource from one region, to now gather the resourses from the whole country and free it from the black pit, and to save this once great nation from falling into eternal damnation.Poverty has met its greatest enemy WOYANE.

This will be the era in which Ethiopia will become what the Axum empire was back in its days.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 09:18

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msg Comment from: Tefera [Visitor]
"What do you do when aid to the poor is working, but the country delivering the aid is run by what is considered to be a repressive regime? Do you stop giving development aid? ":no:.
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this is a no brainer of course no, how can you cut assistance that is working in africa. but if you are sincere ask the very poor men and women you yourself admitted the aid "is working for" and you will get your answer. on the other hand if you ask those who are high on strabucks coffee and hamburger, the answer will be yes.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 09:20

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msg Comment from: mhussein [Visitor]
How long would would feed this country, they don't deserve to be feed, while spending money in milatry.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 09:41

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msg Comment from: tazabe [Visitor]
Stopping aid from the developed countries hurt the poor in Ethiopia i.e if the so called government deliver the money and goods properly. Having said that, history tell us time and time again the aid is not for the intended target instead it is helping the tayrants or the Dictators to stay in power indefinatly operessing the poor and the powerless. No job creation, no modern life atleast by 3rd World standard, no democracy, no sharing of power and if all these no's with a lot more unmentioned no's turn into yes's then the aid will be the best thing to Ethiopia. My suggestion to the aid givers is stop giving for 6 month or a year and that dictator will be out of power in a heart beat maybe that change of government for the better bring a better Ethiopia from a receiver of aid to a giver of aid.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 10:15

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msg Comment from: Natenail K [Visitor]
The Ken ohashiand his organization World banck is suplying food for military to fight with poor and ethiopian govenment buying a wepon b its's regular budget to kill innocent citizen.
No poor get help from the aid which given from world banck.I thank Helen Epstein for your understanding the reality in the ground and please
visit wwww.friendsofsuthomo.com The real picture of the country is there.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 10:36

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msg Comment from: observer [Visitor]
mhussein, isn't there a somalia website you can go please get out of here. this is ethiopian news website not shiritam news website. don't be joulaous skinny. we ethiopians getting fat the somalias are getting skinny. go watch "black hawk down" skinny....lol. go date a camel shiritam.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 10:42

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msg Comment from: ankober [Visitor]
imperial guard
you are trying to be more monarch than the monarchs themselves .you are just an illegitmate son of one of the maids in menelik palace.please keep quite and enjoy your freedom brought by the ethiopian peoples and their heroic vaguard epdrf
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 11:54

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msg Comment from: DJ [Visitor]
Have you read Dambisa Moyo's book lately? Dead Aid says it all. The ROI of all the aid that has gone to dedicators like Legesse Zenawi is laughable at best. Just stick to humanitarian aid.If all the aid money had been used properly,there wouldn't have been a need even for humanitarian aid. DJ
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 11:54

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msg Comment from: Wonde [Visitor]
tazabe [Visitor]

well said! Even though we hate the ethno-racist regime for its divisive and anti ethiopian policies, we are not that much foolish to reccommend the immediate halt of foreign aid, at least till we have responsible governments in place. Africa's economic problems are too many and too complex than the average person could imagine. The likes of Dambisa Moyo have been brain-washed by Western cynical scholars like William Easterly to the extent of believing that aid has no use to the poor people of Africa. She has even the audacity to suggest cutting aid to africa altogether over the next five years! Her suggestion is too shallow, too short-sighted and too immature to say the least.

Of course, aid creates dependacy syndrome. Once addicted to it, finding your way out is very hard--like all addictions. But we have to live with that bitter fact so long as Africa's zombies do not use their power responsibly. To me aid to Africa is a fall back plan lest its zombies/dictators steal all the meager foreign currency obtained through export sales. It is obvious that if there were no aid to africa, many people would die due to shortage of food, clothing and medication since the sub-human leaders of the continent do not care for the poor they rule over. Mobitu of Zaire had stashed away 8 billion (eight billion!) dollars in foreign banks at a time millions of Congolese refugees were dying of hunger, diseases and war.

My position is that please do not turn your back on african and other poor people around the world even if most of the money is stolen by the heartless politicians. Saving lives, not money, should be our priority.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 12:51

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msg Comment from: Wonde [Visitor]
DJ [Visitor]

A car under your garage, iPod on both of your ears, lap top on your bed...life is not like that in Ethiopia, and Africa for that matter. Tens and millions do not have anything to eat.

I agree with you that we should not tolerate corruption, human rights repression and all that political bla bla. But I do not believe that aid should be limited to humanitarian territories only. An example: Consider a compatriot from the rural areas of Gondar, my home province. He/she is breathless all of a sudden and must be taken to a nearby town for emergency medical treatment. We need a minibus, a driver, and a road that leads to that town. In a ruthless world where the likes of you dominate, aid should not have been given to build such roads, in the first place. And in the process, my relatives--and possibly related to you--would die like flies with no one to care for them.

Once again we must fight against the ethnic minority junta, but we should not block any aid given to that country. No matter how much money is wasted, what is built will remain there long after the ghosts of the dictators disappear. And if you are bold enough go to Ethiopia and help your people. Believe me as soon as I finish my studies I will go back to Ethiopia and join one of the universities. I will share with my brothers and sisters the know knowledge and experience I have acquired
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 13:08

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msg Comment from: Yonas [Visitor]
I found this article down-to-earth. I wonder how some people are obsessed with negative mentality. They don't want to see any positive thing to happen. After all there are people in the USA who likened Obama with Nazi. It is true that there are some problems in the country but the country is progressing and marches to build a democratic society on solid ground. Thank you Shanta; your courage to speak out the truth is remarkable.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 14:09

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msg Comment from: GIGI [Visitor]
DEAR EMPERIAL GARD. ARE YOU MENGESTU HAYELE MARIAM??????????????
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 14:23

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msg Comment from: Brugeda [Visitor]
If individuals ego is not fulfilled an aid has to stop? That is absored. The doneers are much more intelligent than your elusive suggestion.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 15:23

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msg Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
ankober [Visitor],
"We take pride in reminding you that the tradition of Our Imperial Body Guard has been to follow unquestioningly the call of duty and to laugh in the face of death." HIM
Your so called freedom of epdrf who enjoy-prostitutes-drunks-ridicule-fags, cause buna bets to operate 24 hours a day selling alcohol,cigarettes and sex infecting a large portion of the population with HIV aids. Thank JAH for the Fire baptism of the Tree of Life which leaves are for the healing of nations, enabling I and I to burn down all the phantoms and illusions of babylonian neo-colonial federalism.
"The soldierly qualities of self-sacrifice and discipline are best tested and demonstrated in the ordeal of fire. Today reveals that you possess these essential qualities in abundance and, even more important, that the inherent courage and valour of the Ethiopian fighting man courses through your veins."HIM
The regime of ethnic federalism imprisoned I and I for Our love for the Tree of Life, but it wasn't long before my God and King provided I and I with the Fire baptism in Nazret prison to be free once again.
"Since in the scale of creation all men are born equal. It is imperative that all laws should be equitable in their application, for what is the foundation of freedom and what are the reasons that men cherish it if they are not equal before the law? The answer is clear to all of you." HIM Negus Haile Selassie
Long Live the Solomon Dynasty!
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 17:05

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msg Comment from: belete [Visitor]
Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
Aid to the corrupt oppressive regime of ethnic federalism must stop. All foreign aid to Ethiopia should be channeled through the specialized agencies of the United Nations utilizing Ethiopian Patriots who are dedicated to the love of country and their Emperor.
:)):))kikiki:)):))
as if that is not enough here is the former zebegna wife entertaining us more.
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Comment from: c´moi senait [Visitor]
WE the true pure ethiopia DO NOT NEED a HAND OUT. ''WE don´t Need Your begger org. in our ethiopia.

Get out of ethiopia. If it was not for Weyannes BEGER self made govt, ethiopia could have achived in self feeding.
:)):)):)) lemayaqish tategni ale:))

PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 17:12

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msg Comment from: displaced [Visitor]
Lekakami, Lemagn!
Ahunme ke lemena Ayawtachu!
GIMMATAME TIGRAE.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 17:35

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msg Comment from: Leyla [Visitor]
while"""so far who help to ethiopia??? i hate diaporawch when u make this kind of garbage article!! you guys don't even have one thing under u name!!! Diasporawch""""why( Mekenat)"""on us???? Is it because u guys don't have a job or layoff"""or got fired??? What about no income from parking???lol Diasporawch Afer belu
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 17:43

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msg Comment from: ankober [Visitor]
imperial body guard
i think you are on drugs.it was not a response it was just hallucination resulted from few puffs of respectable quality of marijuana.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 18:57

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msg Comment from: chelema2010 [Visitor]
aid is disease. even western countries are a victim of it. case in point would be how the blacks became dependent on wellfare system of the gov. Basically, whites work for themselves and the blacks and other bumms in the society. therefore, i say cut aid, not just it feeds and sustains dictators and despots like melese zenawi, but also creates nations who after a while feel like they are entitled to such continuous flow of money from the west. the only aid westerners should give is to freedom fighters trying to dismantle brutal dictatorships like the one in ethiopia.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 20:09

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msg Comment from: The Proffesor [Visitor]
DONATION MAKES YOU LAZY!!

It is just like having a friend that lets you copy his/her exam - so why do you study.
Same goes with donation.

GET YOUR LAZY ASS UP AND WORK!!
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 20:21

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msg Comment from: Loongalee [Visitor]
This comment is a trash that needs to be damped. It is sad that you post such articles that has no support from the donor countries. No country would donate to Ethiopia if the regime is represive. Repressive mentality is indeed implanted in the mind of the writer.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 22:13

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msg Comment from: WUBIT [Visitor]
Thank you all for the laugh.
sededebu batam teru new.lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:)):)):)):)):))
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 22:31

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msg Comment from: Danny [Visitor]
Dambisa Moyo read the mind of many Africans including mine, Western aid is meant to prop up public enemies such as meles zenawi, isayas afework and many other vicious killers/bandits in the African continent. Since the end of world war two when the USA became famous so much aid has gone to Africa, the question is, has the lives of African people changed for the better? The answer as we all know is ofcourse NOT. In fact Africans had a much better life in the 1960s and 1970s than they do now. aid has NEVER developed a country and it NEVER will. A country can only develop through good governance, what Africa needs the most is selfless people who care for others.
PermalinkPermalink 06/24/10 @ 23:21

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msg Comment from: Imperial Body Guard [Visitor]
ankober [Visitor],
I don't take drugs not even paracetamol. The healing herb of marijuana is so easy to grow and so beneficial to all illness that it makes life pleasant even in the most trying conditions.
"It is well known to all that recognizing one's problems and striving hard to challenge them is a mark of an attempt at self-sufficiency." HIM
I and I have a right to blaze up the cup of blessings of the holy sensimillia and no amount of threats and lures from babylons epdrf can take that away from I and I, Blessed Fire burn down babylon.
'Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burnt, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.' 1Corinthians 3:13-15
The more I and I blaze up the kaya the more babylon falls, JAH bless the youth to rise to this supreme challenge and reap a rich reward. The fire reveals to I and I that the derg and ethnic federalism are defunct and futile.
"'...the Ethiopian people must share the burden of responsibility which in the past was borne by their monarch...,' by this act We sought to disperse responsibility and authority among Our people, that they might exercise it together with Ourself, in securing the advancement and the unity of the Ethiopian nation." HIM Negus Haile Selassie
Long Live the Fetha Negast!
The Lion of Judah hath prevailed!
PermalinkPermalink 06/25/10 @ 04:40

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msg Comment from: Nate Tamerat [Visitor]
Nate Tamerat,Switzerland ,Zurich
It is a flawed statement to say fighting force can be created directly within Ethiopia. This is not the time of Italian invasion nor 18th century where the jungles can serve you as a hide out. After all we are fighting with our own kins bought by TPLF fat money.

Eritrea is an important ally to liberate ethiopia. Not knowing this reality is a fantacy thinking. This has been one of our drawback for ten years. We made a mistake ten hyears ago when we supported the TPLF to fight Eritrea. Eritrea is not a danger to Ethiopia. Eritrea is better served if Ethiopia is united. There is a huge market for Eritrea if Ethiopia is united. The notion that Ethiopia will be dismembered by Eritrea is an illusion created by TPLf and TPLfites. There is no reason for Eritrea to benefit out of Ethiopia’s disintegration. Isayas is a reliable partner to free Ethiopia. He hates TPLf to its bone. That is important. He understands that if Ethiopia is disintegrated, Eritrea cannot be benefitted. He is not bone headed to think otherwise. After all, TPLF got into power through Eritrea. Why is it s sin for ethiopians to do the same. Why should we stuck our mind to Assab. If TPLF is in power there is no Assab. If there is no TPLF there is no assab but we got our freedom and our country back. Is not this better than being subugated under TPLF. There is lack of real vision among ethiopian intelectuas and oppositions on this matter. Working with eritrea cannot be more a sin than TPLF did
PermalinkPermalink 06/25/10 @ 05:14

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msg Comment from: belay [Visitor]
it looks like many of you here at nazret.com need some kind of educational aid yourself. first open your mind and read the article. it says in black and white the "aid is working for the poor". but what do you do when the What do you do when "the country delivering the aid is run by what is considered to be a repressive regime"...
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so what do you do. the aid sure is working in getting the country out of poverty but the guy is pain in the ass? that is the dillema. but i reckon for many sober ethiopians like myself the answer is not that difficult.
PermalinkPermalink 06/25/10 @ 09:13

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msg Comment from: chaltu [Visitor]
Let's face it. Maybe we need a repressive regime to get anything done in Ethio. Ethios can't even have a civil conversation when having different opinions. The only thing that makes sense is 'dulla ena kuta'. Somehow, being civil, accomodating and understanding is understood as being stupid and meek so ppl take advantage of it. Without really LIVING the idea of being democratic in our personal approaches, I don't see how we expect that to work in our politics loool.

But then, please also consider the idea that the World Bank is just an intermediary that enables a bunch of old rich westerners litterally screw poor nations under the guise of development and aid. So their idea of a repressive nation is the one that's repressive to THEM not necessarily repressive on its people and its people's needs. Do you realize that THEY tell us what our story is... always??? What does it really sound like when we tell our own story????? Don't be fooled with the hype. We need leaders that can analyze this and handle the tough balancing game. Not a bunch of layovers that get fooled by a few coins, titles and dreamy ideals that even they themselves don't fully practice.
PermalinkPermalink 06/25/10 @ 11:32

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msg Comment from: safu [Visitor]
Hello there,

This stupid donor agencies and the jungle government of Ethiopia are both masking poverty to report as success just to prove that the empty promise of achieving the Millennium development goal . They are preparing us for that date of 2015 to say somehow they achieved the promised goal. the money sent to Ethiopia is spent on themselves but no one. They are investing on lavish empty talk meetings, workshops, site visits and corruption, building concrete building in Adis by UN officials and so on. We just heard that a Bulgarian and some Philippine scum have stolen millions from this investment money. As someone said above, just get out and leave us alone. You talk and you eat, but we listen and watch. That is a truth.

Peace

safu
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msg Comment from: bliss [Visitor]
Ethiopians are self sufficent, we are not advancing because of the dictators ruling us. If it was safe we would say military aid but Meles is using it to kill our people and for the wrong reason. So what can you do?
PermalinkPermalink 06/25/10 @ 19:44

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msg Comment from: afarman [Visitor]
The aim of aid is not to change regimes and introduce western style democracy, its aimed to improve people's welfare. The world bank has stated the following in the above article "Ethiopia has done well in reducing poverty and child mortality, and increasing primary completion rates because their system of delivering basic services has various elements of this accountability built in".

So if the aid has helped reduce child mortality and child poverty what can we say? Its a good thing and should be encouraged, we shouldnt politicise every thing. The EPRDF is using aid money for the right cause and we should welcome the god news.

let the diaspora extremists cry and cry, they themselves live recieving government handouts and oppose poor ethiopians from recieving aid, this is hypocracy.
PermalinkPermalink 06/26/10 @ 05:03

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msg Comment from: Mengistu [Visitor]
People managed to live on their own without aid for thousands of years. When given no other option people will work hard and do any thing to survive. Those countries and people giving us aid are humans with limitations and weakness like us - it is only through hard work they they are able to feed them selves and have some extra to give to others. Let's work hard - change our policy - changeour corrupt regimes and feed our selves and most importantly, let's teach our kids that they need to work hard to be abel to support them selves.
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msg Comment from: TEDDY [Visitor]
:no::crazy:Whatever the level and the provenience of the aid .Afterall everything is detourn by TPLF bandits ,Tigrai Mafiosos and Aderby Bandas .Never a single penny shall arrive to the poor suffering peoples . OF COURSE WESTERNERS MUST STOP THEIR ASSISTANCES TO THE TYRANT ZENAWI AND HIS EVIL REGIME ,IF THEY REALLY CARE ON THE SUFFERING OF THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLES !!!
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msg Comment from: yoni [Visitor]


Would You Stop Aid to Ethiopia

IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ARE ASKING???

For the Extreme Diaspora who are after a comfortable chair in Arat Kilo and who thinks they can mange 80million ppl from DC Zigubigne Bet...the answer is YES!

For these group of ppl, the Ethiopian Poor are THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB TO TOPPLE EPRDF!

If you are asking me and the rest of Ethiopians who denied the INCAPABLE EXTREME OPPOSITIONS our crucial vote ...our answer is NO!

For us FEEDING ETHIOPIANS IS OUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY!!!

Like our PM said...

"The US gov't can spend its TAX PAYERS CASH as it wishes..."

OUR MEDIA SECTOR, FINACIAL SECTOR AND OUR VOTE IS NOT FOR SALE!!!





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msg Comment from: misikir [Visitor]
dictators are dictators like the one we have, they use NGOs assistance, using it as if their gestor to the people of that area,I have seen it. where ever there is NGOs the government of Meles cutting the budget of that area. NGOs should not be giving any assistance to this kind dictator and represive government
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